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Feb. 26, 2024 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Muslims and Christians must UNITE to DEFEAT the Antichrist!...

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	Alright, welcome to today's in-studio interview here at Brighton.com.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighton, and we have a special guest joining us today.
	His name is Amer, and he is a president of Texas, lives in Austin, and he follows the Islam faith.
	So he is a Muslim with a lot of important things to share with us.
	That I think can help us heal.
	And welcome to the show, by the way.
	It's a pleasure to be here.
	It's great to have you.
	Awesome.
	First time that we've met.
	Yes, it is.
	I'm super excited to have you here because I feel like we live in a world where the powers that be want Muslims and Christians to hate each other, which is entirely artificial.
	Seems unnatural to me.
	So I hope that we get a chance today to talk about You know, your experience as a Muslim American and your views on the world and Christianity as well.
	Yeah, looking forward to it.
	Well, it's a pleasure to have you.
	Now, let me ask you to get a little bit closer to the mic because your voice isn't perhaps as loud as mine.
	But let's start with some basics.
	So tell us a little bit about yourself, where you were raised, your background, and how you found your way to Texas.
	Sure.
	Born to Pakistani parents in England.
	My father immigrated as a doctor from Pakistan to England.
	A small town called Torquay.
	Torquay?
	Yeah.
	Really small town.
	Yeah.
	on the foot of the southern England near Devon.
	Rays stayed there for about 13 years.
	And then at that time, Nigeria was making its way wave in the world when they discovered oil.
	And so my father chasing sort of new development, if you will.
	We moved to Nigeria for three years and then moved back to England for a couple of years and my mother got sick.
	And my mother's last or dying wish was to see her sister who lived in New York.
	And that's what got us onto New York.
	Went to NYU. Went to UPenn.
	And spent about 15 years on Wall Street.
	Really?
	What did you do on Wall Street?
	I was in investment banking.
	I structured mortgage-backed securities for a living.
	You're kidding me!
	No, I'm not.
	The Big Short!
	The Big Short, indeed, indeed.
	But we were before that.
	You know all about the Big Short.
	I know a little bit.
	I know a little bit.
	And then I went through a personal issue.
	I had a family of two young kids at that time.
	And then went into sort of a semi-retirement, if you will.
	I took the family up to...
	Toronto.
	So how did you end up coming to Texas?
	So I had come to visit New York and on my way back and entering into Canada, back again into Canada during COVID, I was asked about my vaccine status.
	I was asked about where do I live and all of that stuff.
	And I said, no, I'm not vaxxed.
	And they asked me, oh, no, but you have to get vaccinated.
	You have to go for second checking.
	I said, no.
	Then they asked me, when I went for second checking, which is like a second checkpoint after the immigration border, which is right there, and they asked me, and I cited multiple passages of the law that, according to this passage, You know, a ruling, I am exempt from, I'm a permanent resident and I'm allowed to get into the country no matter what.
	And they said, oh, okay, you're free to go.
	They just didn't want to deal with you.
	They didn't want to deal with you.
	But they said you have to quarantine.
	So when I got back, I quarantined in my apartment.
	And that is when I decided, absolutely not.
	So Justin Trudeau is not your favorite leader.
	No, and he was backed by the Muslims, by the way.
	He was backed and he courted us in Canada and the Muslim community quite a bit.
	But it's not just Justin Trudeau.
	It's like, since the 80s, since the 90s, I've always been suspicious of our leadership.
	Yes.
	Across the globe, by the way.
	This is not just American and Canadian and whatever, you know, Egyptian leadership.
	It's across the board.
	They're all corrupt.
	They're all in the same camp.
	They all have the same handler, if you will.
	So anyway, I quarantined for 10 or 14 days.
	I was visited by a cop to make sure that I was in my house jail.
	Really?
	And at that point, I decided I'm out of here.
	Like home arrest.
	That's absolutely correct.
	Ah.
	And sold absolutely everything, bought an RV, bought a truck, and just drove.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Oh, that's a lifestyle change.
	Yes, it is.
	And the purpose of my driving and to meet people were to meet communities that were freedom-minded.
	And then a conference came up called the Exit and Build Conference with John Bush.
	With John Bush, who's been a guest here in the studio.
	Yes, he has.
	So you came to Texas to attend that conference?
	I was like, that's where I'm going.
	No kidding.
	Yes.
	That is like, here's somebody who's organized, or seemingly organized, and I'm like, that's where I'm going to go.
	That's my community.
	Wow.
	So John Bush is to credit for you being here today.
	Yes.
	Thank you, John.
	Thank you, John.
	We appreciate it.
	Yeah, so that was awesome.
	And at that time, I'm running a venture.
	I had also gotten accepted into an accelerator in Austin.
	What's an accelerator?
	Accelerator is...
	Like a VC type thing?
	It's a VC, yeah.
	It's basically an ecosystem for startup companies.
	Oh, okay.
	That basically help you network and raise money and get you to the next level.
	And so at that time, I was already five or six years into my venture.
	I had already raised about $700,000, about over a million dollars actually.
	And then now I'm here raising the next round of funding to launch the business.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	That's exciting.
	So let me just ask you right up front, bluntly, did you...
	Not being white help you raise venture capital, because as you know, in our country today, there's a lot of Favoritism towards non-whites in America today.
	Was that a factor?
	Or even being Muslim, was that a factor at all?
	People do not know that I'm Muslim on the face of it.
	Perhaps they can tell by the name.
	I have not raised money here yet, but I'm close.
	Now, there are checkpoints, especially when you're in Austin, check marks or whatever, where you're asked to identify with a certain ethnic group.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Why do they even ask?
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	It's like it shouldn't matter.
	That's a whole other kind of work.
	Your ideas are what counts.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	Are you worthy of being funded?
	Do you have an excellent project?
	Exactly.
	That's really all that should matter.
	I agree.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Tell us about your Muslim faith and how would you describe your level of dedication to your faith?
	Are you just a casual Muslim, or like a real serious?
	I'm serious.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm serious.
	And that's one of the reasons why I'm in Texas.
	Okay.
	So when I looked from the landscape of Canada, and I looked down at the world, because I can go...
	Almost anywhere.
	Right, you can with four passports.
	I can go to the Middle East.
	I can go to Pakistan.
	I can go to Europe and hang around Europe.
	I can go to Northern, any part of Africa, if you will.
	Maybe South America would be, but South America wasn't something that I ate favorably for myself.
	I chose the country of Texas.
	The country?
	Yes, indeed.
	Welcome to the Republic of Texas.
	Yes, indeed.
	And there are certain characteristics that I looked for in the destination, because now I'm thinking, wow, are we really in the end of times, if you will?
	Are we really getting this?
	And I'm getting this from the one world government and Klaus Schwab and all of his machinations and what he's wielding on the world and the people of the world.
	Depopulation, man.
	Global depopulation.
	It's scary, but it's a time that's predicted in our tradition of Islam.
	Yeah.
	Very much similar to Christianity.
	The Book of Revelation and all that, yeah.
	That's right.
	There's a lot of similarities.
	I want to talk about that.
	There's absolutely a lot of similarities.
	We come from the same source.
	And I wanted to be with people that...
	Because I'm going to give my back...
	And I want to know that I'm going to be in a community with people who have my back at the same time.
	And so when I thought about, let's take Pakistan for instance.
	If I went there, I would be considered, oh, you're the white guy.
	Right, right, exactly.
	You're the foreigner in your own country.
	And I'm non-vaxxed.
	He's the guy that started arguing with everyone.
	That's the guy.
	Yes.
	And I would get centered.
	Like during the Bolsheviks.
	Yes.
	During all of those revolutions where you're, you know, you're asked to give up that person.
	Right.
	And...
	So I scoured, and we can go through a number of different continents and which ones I chose and chose not to go to.
	Indonesia, Malaysia, these were all on my list.
	But I chose Texas.
	And I chose Texas because of a couple of things.
	The Christians...
	And the stickiness of the Christians with themselves.
	Cohesion of the communities.
	And rule of law.
	There's no rule of law in the other countries.
	They'll throw the book away.
	If a dictator wants to arrest you, whether you're in Egypt, whether you're in Pakistan, whether you're in any one of the Middle Eastern countries, you're going to be done and they're going to throw away the keys.
	Over here, at least you have recourse in the United States.
	In Texas, you do.
	Now, in New York, not anymore.
	That is right.
	So you saw what happened to Trump.
	That is correct.
	That could be my end or our end or whatever it is, but I want to be given a chance to stand up and fight if needed.
	What do you mean?
	Defend ourselves.
	To defend the freedom that we have as humans.
	Yes.
	That's it.
	So you want to be in a place that believes in the rule of law and defending our constitutional rights.
	I don't want you to miscook through the word fight.
	When I say I'm about intellectual struggle.
	I get it.
	You didn't bring a rifle in.
	No, no, no.
	And I don't even know how to wield a rifle.
	Oh, really?
	Because we have some.
	It is Texas.
	And I don't have any interest in it.
	But...
	I think that we can get ahead significantly with our stack of experience.
	And I've had international experience, international background, education and all that.
	That is worth something if we can put it to work and do some good in the world.
	And that's really what it's all about.
	I completely agree.
	See, I'm so...
	I'm so grateful that Texas has been able to project the right kind of message that the state of Texas, or soon probably the Republic of Texas again, is a place where the rule of law is in effect.
	I mean, I was given this pin by a former Texas Ranger.
	Mm-hmm.
	And it's because of my work here in Texas.
	But we are going to protect the state and the rule of law.
	And Texas is a place of incredible abundance for people who are willing to work, as obviously you are and I am as well, But I see Texas as the...
	I think Texas is going to have a new golden age after it declares its independence from this collapsing federal regime that's bringing us all down.
	I looked into that too, yes.
	Whether Texas would secede or not.
	Yeah, it may.
	I mean, Utah is under kind of a soft secession situation right now, which is interesting, but...
	I see, and I welcome people of different faiths and different, you know, ethnic origins and so on to come to Texas because, you know, I'm married to an immigrant from Taiwan.
	I don't know if you knew that.
	But, and I've lived, you know, I speak some Chinese.
	I live in other countries.
	Right.
	And I know that it is absolutely true.
	Sorry, my dog is, you can pet him with me.
	He's cool.
	Yeah.
	That when we have, I mean, I don't want to sound like a leftist, but there is diversity.
	There are strengths from real diversity.
	I'm not talking about, you know, sort of the made-up fictional version of diversity that the left talks about, but I'm talking about real people from different backgrounds and different countries coming together in a place where you have the rule of law and you have a functioning economy and you have energy, because Texas has energy.
	You can do amazing things together.
	Absolutely.
	100%.
	100%.
	It's an opportunity, and it's a great opportunity for, again, I'm going to use this word to reset or to develop something that is really good.
	And you don't have to share it with us here today, but it sounds like you've started a new project, and you've chosen Texas as the place to do that.
	Indeed I have.
	That's awesome.
	Well, I'm working on an AI project right now, a large language model.
	You may have heard me talk about it, and I can't wait to provide that out for free to the people of Texas.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	I know what you're working on.
	I love it.
	Yeah, I would love to.
	I'm in organic food.
	Oh, organic food, really?
	I want to feed people.
	Oh, man.
	Well, you're in the right place.
	The purest food on the planet, which is a God-given right for everybody.
	I don't care where you sit on the economic line.
	It doesn't matter where we sit on the economic line.
	Everyone has a God-given right to eat the purest food.
	I think that it's a human right to have access to food and water.
	100%.
	The freedom of speech, the right to defend your home, your family from war or from tyranny and so on.
	And we're going to talk about that.
	But getting back to your faith, I'd like for you to share, if you would, you said you're very serious about your faith.
	So how do you practice that?
	I mean, do you pray multiple times a day?
	Do you attend local community events?
	Right.
	So, yeah, so...
	I call it a tradition.
	I call it a way of life.
	That's what it is, actually.
	Islam is a way of life.
	It governs all aspects of our lives.
	We believe that God sent the message of Islam down to help us live in harmony with natural systems, whether it's our fellow people or animals and the communities that we live in.
	And so it's more than just ritual worship that I do.
	So, yes, we ritually worship, but there's something way before that.
	And the thing that's way before that is the spirituality of it.
	What is Islam?
	What is spirituality?
	Spirituality is this belief in God, that there's something well beyond anything that we can comprehend that has created us.
	In different traditions, in different colors, and, you know, this mosaic of this incredible world that we live in.
	And then God has sent down messages over time.
	And some of those messages got corrupted.
	And then Islam came.
	And You know, there's much more to it, but this is basically, how do you live in harmony with existence?
	And that's how I see it.
	Well, thank you for sharing that, because, as you know, we are all programmed by, I think, nefarious...
	Governments or even globalists to, of course, they want people to hate each other.
	They want to manipulate us through conflict and hatred that, as I said earlier, is not natural.
	So you and I, for example, we probably share a whole long list of interests, like organic gardening, permaculture, clean food, nutrition, cognitive, understanding finance and the role of money and economies and technology, all these things.
	And yet, according to the globalists, because I'm a Christian and you're a Muslim, we're not supposed to talk.
	And then they tell us that we're supposed to hate each other, which is complete nonsense.
	That's right.
	A stake between us and everyone.
	Not just Muslims and Christians, but just people who want to create and do well and live autonomously or live in communities in peace.
	They've wedged that stake in so that we don't talk.
	And it's also wedged within the Muslim world.
	Right.
	Right.
	That's a good point.
	But let me say, I've seen those wedges in the Christian world, too.
	And I'll offer this, that I've seen many people who profess their love for Jesus and that they are Christians and they claim to follow the teachings of Jesus.
	And then, after October 7th, which we'll get to, they're like, kill all the Palestinians.
	Kill all the Gazans.
	Kill the women.
	Kill the children.
	Kill all the Arabs.
	And it starts getting bigger.
	Their map of who they want to kill keeps expanding.
	And I'm taken aback.
	I'm like...
	Like, on October 6th, didn't you say you love all people and protect the babies?
	And that you follow Jesus' teachings, and then on October 8th, you're like, kill half the world!
	Like, what happened, man?
	This is what's driving me crazy.
	What happened to the principals?
	Yeah.
	I mean, you and I both know that the principals are fair with our fans, if you will.
	Exactly.
	Who pays the most money wins the war.
	But it's not actually about that.
	It's more about...
	They probably know the end of times better than we do.
	Who?
	Who knows?
	The Zionists.
	Oh.
	The people who are trying to rule.
	They're trying to cause the end of times.
	They're trying to get ahead of it, in my opinion.
	Okay.
	They know our religion better than we do.
	These predictions have been made.
	Yeah.
	So there's a concept in our tradition called the major signs and the minor signs of the end of times.
	Really?
	There's ten major signs.
	I wouldn't be able to name them all here.
	And then there's many minor signs.
	Okay.
	What's some of the major signs?
	Just a couple.
	Some of the major signs is the coming of Jesus Christ.
	That's one of the major ones.
	Even in Islam?
	In Islam.
	Okay.
	Yeah, in Islam.
	And we can talk about how we believe in Jesus.
	Okay.
	I'm curious.
	I'm sure you already know.
	No, I don't.
	Okay.
	So Jesus is a prophet.
	He's a very important prophet.
	Jesus is named 25 times in the Quran.
	Is that right?
	There's a quote that was sent to me earlier, and I'd like to read it, actually, but it's on my phone.
	Yeah, you can grab it.
	Jesus is named 25 times.
	He's called the friend...
	He's called...
	Muhammad calls Jesus his friend.
	We believe that Jesus is still alive in heaven.
	Okay, okay.
	We will...
	You know, so the progression is there were...
	Tens of thousands of prophets.
	And the number for us sits around 124,000 or so.
	Something like that.
	No one really knows the exact number.
	We even believe that perhaps Buddha was a prophet.
	And then his word was corrupted.
	And whatever the Buddhists believe is not in line with what God originally wanted the message to be.
	Through the generations, the message got toward it.
	Same with Moses.
	We believe in Moses as a prophet of God, as a messenger of God to a certain community.
	And he brought down the message, and the community, some followed him and some didn't follow him.
	And the same with Jesus.
	Jesus was sent to earth.
	He preached a message.
	He was a messenger of God.
	There's a difference between simply a prophet of God and a messenger of God.
	A messenger of God was revealed to.
	A message was given.
	A book was given.
	The Torah, the Injil, which is the Bible, and then the Quran.
	And Prophet Muhammad, we consider him the seal of the prophets.
	We consider him a reformer of the previous message, the original message from God.
	A message was given.
	And so, and it's, in it, God states that I've completed, the prophet says that the religion is now complete, the tradition is now complete, and there will be no religion after this, and there will be no book after this, actually, and this book will be protected.
	And that book has been preserved.
	The Quran has been preserved since it was finished being revealed to the Prophet Muhammad.
	And it has remained as such to today.
	Okay.
	So it's never been changed.
	Not even a single accent.
	Not even a single...
	Not translated into different languages in the King James Version.
	No.
	That's right.
	There's not 300 books.
	It's all the same book.
	It has been translated, but it's still based off the same Arabic language that was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad.
	Got it.
	So you can go back.
	If you speak Arabic or read Arabic, you can go to the original source.
	I mean, you can read it the way it was...
	Given.
	That's right.
	So just like Old English or Shakespearean English, you almost equated that.
	So colloquial Arabic spoken in Morocco or, you know, the Arab world has a slightly different dialect.
	All of these countries kind of speak slightly differently.
	So it's almost like when you read the Quran, it's almost like the equivalent of Shakespearean English.
	I see.
	Right?
	But people do speak it.
	Really?
	People do speak it.
	And the places that that tradition, that language tradition is alive the most is in Palestine and Syria in that Levant area.
	I see.
	So, importantly, Islam also believes that Jesus Christ was a real being, but that he was a prophet with a message from God to teach a specific group of people.
	That is correct.
	He was born to Mary, who is highly revered in our tradition.
	Immaculate conception.
	We don't consider him the son of God.
	They've sent helicopters for us.
	We're not supposed to be having this conversation.
	Okay, I guess we're okay.
	You said Mary.
	Virgin Mary.
	Highly regarded in our tradition.
	There's even a chapter that is called Maryam in the Quran.
	No kidding?
	Yes.
	This is all fascinating to hear because...
	Very often, Christians in our country, and I've heard this, they will say that Islam is a religion of violence or something like, or a religion of, I don't know the exact phrase.
	The sword, right.
	Right.
	And that all it does is it teaches people to kill others and harm others.
	I mean, Of course, I've never read the Koran.
	Maybe, perhaps we all should read all of each other's books.
	But if we rely on so-called authorities to tell us what the Koran says instead of looking at it ourselves, then I think a lot of people can be easily deceived.
	Yes.
	Yeah, so that's a whole other...
	So there's a number of things here.
	We want to go to the source ourselves.
	We don't want to rely on hearsay or somebody said, somebody said, somebody said.
	I agree.
	I think that's a good principle.
	That is, we are the governors of our own lives, individually speaking.
	And it is up to us to inform ourselves and acquire knowledge, which, by the way, was the first word of the Quran.
	Acquire knowledge.
	Read.
	Read was the first word revealed to Prophet Muhammad.
	So we stand on the principles of knowledge.
	And we send people out and we say, before, if they want to convert to Islam, we say, you know...
	We're not interested in, you know, great if you want to convert or if you want, but learn about the religion.
	Know that this is what you want.
	And please, go out and scour and do your research.
	And then come back to us and we'll happily answer any questions to you.
	We're not missionaries and we're not trying to bring Sharia law.
	There's none of that stuff going on here.
	That you hear from the outside.
	Those are all forces and messages coming from these other parties, if you will, to vilify who we really are.
	So yes, the first principle is go and learn about the various religions that are out there, the various traditions that are out there.
	And I also don't like to say Islam is a religion because that conjures up something that, oh, okay, so you do that separately.
	But for me, I call it a tradition or a way of life as I initially described it.
	Why?
	Because when I deal with you as a friend or as an individual, I deal with you with kindness and that's what I'm taught.
	When I deal with you in business with money and we transact money, that money and that transaction is governed with kindness.
	Fairness and mutual advancement, not the Wall Street way.
	I didn't know what was wrong, actually, because I was a punk 20-year-old kid from NYU who just wanted to be rich.
	And here I am feeling intrinsically...
	I don't want to call it depressed, but I hated waking up in the morning.
	And had I not believed in God, I would have committed suicide.
	No kidding.
	I hated myself waking up every single morning.
	Wow.
	What are you talking about when you worked on Wall Street?
	When I worked on Wall Street.
	That's what the tall buildings are for, so you can leap.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They provide suicide towers all over Wall Street.
	So the point is that how I deal with your dog and with kindness and with care, whether the person is wealthy or poor, all of this is governed in our tradition.
	How do you deal with people?
	How do you deal with animals?
	How do you deal with the environment?
	It's all in the Quran.
	I'm glad to hear that because it's integration in your life.
	The way of life, yes.
	It's not like, oh, you're this one person six days a week and then you segment that and then you go to the church on one day.
	That's right.
	And then you're pious for that one day and then the rest of the time you abandon it.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	Well, okay.
	And is this a common approach among those of Islam?
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, that's a very good and a deep question, actually.
	We come from many traditions.
	Sorry, we come from many backgrounds.
	So there's Indonesians, there's Malay, there's Pakistanis, there's Americans, there's Malcolm X, for instance, and there's a whole host of other people.
	Actually, the imam, or the leader of our mosque, one of the mosques in Austin, he's a former Ford supermodel.
	A former what supermodel?
	Ford.
	Ford?
	Yes.
	What do you mean?
	The Ford agency.
	The Ford modeling agency.
	Oh, I didn't know there was a modeling agency called Ford.
	It was called Ford.
	I'm thinking trucks.
	Back in the 80s.
	Yeah, back in the 80s.
	So he was a supermodel and he converted his life.
	Cat Stevens.
	He's also Muslim, for instance.
	Okay.
	So someone went from being a supermodel to becoming a Muslim.
	To a Muslim.
	Yeah.
	And interesting, their stories are kind of similar because they were facing death at one point.
	And they begged God, they said, God save me, and I will search for the truth.
	And so they were saved, and then they searched for the truth, and both of them happened to find Islam in this particular case.
	Okay.
	So you asked a question.
	Yeah, about integration.
	It's not plain vanilla.
	So does everybody believe in the same way that I do?
	No, I get it.
	The answer is no.
	We all, as individuals, have a direct relationship with God.
	There's no intercessor.
	There's no pastors.
	There's no imams.
	There's no sheikhs in between that we go to and say, oh, please pray for God for us.
	There's nothing like that happening.
	What we do is we reach God separately.
	Now, has that developed?
	In certain parts of the world, it has developed.
	Has the way the religion was taught changed from the original way that it should have been taught?
	And so, I'll give you an example.
	This is kind of the source of the deviation of people who think And people who don't think.
	The readers versus the rote followers.
	Right.
	Okay.
	But we have rote followers in every religion, obviously.
	We do.
	And that nuance exists.
	So now when you do something wrong, even when I'm standing there sometimes praying, and I pray, like, you know, you pray...
	The predominant way of praying is when you're standing, you pray with your hands on your, you know, just about midsection.
	And some people pray with their hands up, some people will pray with their hands lower.
	And I have actually been in prayer once, and you're basically speaking to God, you're pointed towards Mecca.
	And someone's come and lowered my hand.
	Because that's how they understood it.
	But the beauty of Islam is that it's very wide.
	That there's an acceptance of doing this and that.
	I'm giving you a really simple example.
	Sure.
	And there's an acceptance.
	The way I see it, if you believe in the oneness of God, and if you believe in the five pillars, which is the basics, basics of Islam, and I'll talk about what the five pillars are, We should say, we're Muslim.
	That's it.
	We're done.
	All the other stuff, we can agree and disagree and agree to disagree and let's move on.
	But some people don't.
	Some people will argue, say, oh no, it should be like this or it should be like that.
	And so that's where we've run into, you know, divergent issues.
	And the world has seen that.
	And the smart people in the world, if you will, the clever people in the world, the Zionists, this movement, the Sunni versus Shia, has come in and attacked, understands that nuance and come in and attacked based on that.
	That's how they're really smart.
	These people who are after this one world agenda, they know exactly what your tradition is and what our tradition is, what we believe and what is coming in the end of time.
	They're trying to get ahead of it, but they also know what our tradition is and they're getting ahead of that.
	So they're really hijacking our religious narratives.
	At the core.
	In order to achieve their goals of pitting humanity against each other so that they can end up in total control.
	It's possible I give them too much credit, but that's the way I see it.
	Okay, okay.
	Well, let's transition to...
	Let's talk about Zionism.
	Let's talk about the Middle East.
	Because...
	Well, let me share...
	My experience, because I watch a lot of videos of different people from different sides discussing what's going on in Gaza and Israel and Yemen and Iran and other places.
	And when I tune into, and some of my Christian friends may not like to hear me say this, but it's the truth.
	When I tune into a Muslim analyst talking about the Middle East, I find them to be extremely high IQ, very well informed, and very rational.
	Right?
	Very rational.
	Talking about what's going on, what's cause and effect, what are the actions and reactions, and basing it on certain principles.
	Principles that I believe are universal, such as the right to live without bombs falling out of the sky.
	And then when I tune into a lot of the Christian channels, And this is not all of them, but some of them, they sound like crazy people.
	They sound like, you know, we've got to kill them all, and we've got to bring back Jesus, and first we've got to kill all these people and destroy this temple, and God wants us to do this, and get the women, get the children.
	It's like, what?
	What?
	And actually, someone that I interviewed before, I'm not going to say who, but years ago, is exactly like that now.
	Mm-hmm.
	And it offends me.
	It offends me.
	Actually, it humiliates me thinking that at one time I thought that was a person worth interviewing.
	And then to hear him talk like that, pushing death and hatred and violence.
	So anti-Christian.
	It's the antithesis of what Jesus taught.
	Not to mention Muhammad.
	Absolutely.
	But that's been my experience so far over the last few months observing this.
	Does any of that shock you?
	No, it does not.
	I've seen it all.
	I lived through 9-11.
	Yeah.
	In New York, no less.
	In New York.
	I was one block away, two blocks away.
	I was at J.P. Morgan at the time.
	And yeah, when I walked out and I was that month following 9-11, yeah, I was being looked at and I was a bit afraid.
	Because of being brown.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	And then there was all the Muslim hatred that was pushed after 9-11.
	100%.
	Oh, 100%.
	We were hated.
	We were taught to be hated.
	But, you know, the people who are educated understand.
	They know that this is, you know, whichever group did this, and I'm not saying it's the Muslims.
	We know who did it.
	Here in Texas, we know who did that, but anyway.
	Whichever group did this...
	You can't, with one giant swath, vilify two billion people in the world.
	That's right.
	Just like we don't are going to do it, you know, because, who is it?
	McVay.
	Christian McVay.
	Timothy McVay?
	Timothy McVay.
	Yeah, Oklahoma.
	We're not going to sit here and say, oh, all of Christianity has done this.
	But the media says that, though.
	The press is happy to make this.
	History has wrought with such actions.
	Yes.
	But I'm glad you brought that up because let's back up.
	After 9-11, the message from America's leaders and the media was that we were supposed to be highly suspicious of Muslims.
	Yeah.
	Okay?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	And I remember seeing, even in TV shows and movies, there was a very strong script-writing element to put Muslims into roles where we had not seen them before.
	And along with this was also an effort to put a lot of women in roles and make men look weak and pathetic, but especially white men.
	Now, after October 7th and what's happening in the Middle East, we're now being told, especially from a lot of conservative voices, that it's time to hate Muslims again in America.
	Yes.
	So it's like, oh my gosh, why, and I even said this in my podcast to people, why are you following their hate map?
	Right.
	Exactly.
	And it's.
	It's silly.
	It's whiplash.
	It's like emotional whiplash.
	You're supposed to hate and then love and then hate again and then love again.
	Come on.
	Why don't we just have principles?
	It's the convenience factor and it's the agenda.
	It's ultimately the agenda, and that agenda has been written out many, many years ago, many decades ago.
	This was all pre-planned many decades ago.
	I agree.
	It actually didn't start even at the Balfour Agreement.
	It started way, way before that.
	But they put this in motion, and...
	I don't even know where to begin.
	There's just so much out there.
	What you see isn't what you get, obviously.
	The issue is that...
	I don't know which way to take it.
	Let's start off with the Muslim world and the leaders in the Muslim world.
	I believe that pretty much all bought and paid for.
	They all follow this Zionist agenda and they wouldn't have made it up to those ascending ranks if they hadn't been bought by the WEFers or the Davos crowd.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	So you're saying it's the same puppet masters running the whole planet?
	Yeah.
	And this is deadly theater that we're watching?
	Now, running the whole planet, I don't know enough to be able to say...
	Okay, but influencing major nations?
	Influencing major...
	Absolutely.
	Especially the ones that are on USAID. Oh, well, of course.
	Especially the ones that are on USAID. Yeah.
	Now, I believe Russia is one of the good guys.
	Okay.
	Um...
	Orthodox Christianity, you will find it there.
	I've heard that.
	And there's a part of this foretelling of the future to come, the coming of Jesus Christ, when Muslims and Christians will actually join together and fight this one world Antichrist.
	We believe in the Antichrist.
	Is there something in your...
	Prophecies that says that Muslims and Christians will join together?
	Yes.
	To defeat the Antichrist?
	Yes.
	Wow.
	Tell us about that.
	So, again, these are the sayings of the Prophet.
	Okay, so let's define this.
	There's the Quran, which is the Word of God.
	It's the perfect Word of God.
	Yes.
	The uncreated Word of God.
	He didn't create it.
	This is the speech of God.
	That's the way we see it.
	And then there's the sayings of the Prophet of Islam, which is Muhammad, and what he did.
	So he was known as the walking Quran.
	Basically, when you read the Quran, you read this book, and sometimes it's esoteric.
	And you're like, okay, well, I just read this.
	So this is our rule book, if you will.
	What you read in the Quran, you say, oh, okay.
	It tells us that we must treat, you know, men and women are equal, but different.
	Physiologically, we're different, and in business, we're different, and so on and so forth.
	So we believe in family values and all that.
	So what I'm getting to is the Quran is...
	The speech of God.
	And the Hadith, or the Sunnah, is the way of the Prophet.
	So the Prophet was known as the walking Quran.
	And the Prophet became the Prophet at the age of 40, when wisdom actually sets in.
	Before that, he was just a regular person.
	He did business.
	He was married to a woman that was older than him.
	She was wealthy, and he was poor.
	And he was known as a truthful one.
	And he was foretold by Jesus, by the way, that there will be somebody coming after me.
	And in the Old Testament, I think the name was taken of Prophet Muhammad.
	Not as Muhammad, but as Ahmed.
	It was another name that I was thinking.
	Maybe it was the Torah.
	I might have to be corrected on that one.
	But it was foretold.
	Jesus Christ certainly foretold the coming of a prophet after him.
	Okay.
	Muhammad.
	So now the sayings of the Prophet is his speech.
	Now, you can rely on the Word of God, but you cannot always rely on some of the things that are attributed to what the Prophet said.
	Understood.
	Right?
	There is strong...
	Evidence to back of lineage to back, oh, that is a statement that he certainly made.
	And then there are other sayings that have encroached in that may not be.
	And people like to use those, as you will, for their own.
	Sure, same thing with the Bible.
	So in those sayings is all of the sayings of this coming Antichrist.
	Really?
	And the Antichrist in our tradition is called the Dajjal.
	Dajjal?
	Dajjal.
	Dajjal.
	Phonetically, it's spelled D-A-J-J-A-L. Oh, Dajjal.
	Dajjal.
	And this is basically what you consider the Antichrist.
	Okay.
	And this Antichrist will come, and he will wreak havoc.
	When they started announcing the One World government, That's when it came in.
	And this was around the 80s and 90s.
	They started talking about the one world government.
	The Vice President Bush at the time.
	And then he became President Senior Bush under Reagan.
	He was like, oh, the one world government and all of this stuff.
	But something really critical about what you're saying is that in order for humanity to be victorious against the Antichrist, which is...
	I think a reflection of Satanism.
	It means that Muslims and Christians will have to work together.
	Now I can't...
	Yes.
	That's a yes.
	So let me just add.
	So what we are doing here today, Muslim and Christian talking about how we can protect humanity and our families and our futures.
	This is exactly a little tiny example of what has to happen globally for humanity to win.
	That is why I'm in Texas.
	That's why you're in Texas.
	Yes.
	I'm not going to say this in...
	I guess I am saying it in public.
	It couldn't be more public.
	No, it's not something that I chime around.
	So I'm the quiet sort, and I'll just continue to work.
	Because what we don't want to do is we don't want our knees cut off before we actually make some progress.
	What we want to do is, remember, I'm Wall Street trained.
	I know how the mind thinks.
	I understand how warfare happens.
	I'm trained on Sun Tzu.
	I understand how, and again, I'm using this really big word as a Muslim, and there is nothing that I, we are not next to war by any means.
	When I say war, I mean war in business, war in intellect.
	Making sure that the subversive minds don't win.
	And we minds come together, but they're keeping us divided because if we come together, we will beat them.
	We will beat them.
	But if they keep us separated, then we can be defeated.
	Yes, exactly.
	And hence, the hatred that is pushed globally to try to turn everybody against each other.
	So there's going to be a number of wars that are going to emerge.
	And I don't know if this is the war in the Middle East right now that is being the genocide that's going on in Palestine is the beginnings of this.
	I'm going to say probably not, but it could be.
	And if there's an attack from Iran, from the Hezbollah, and if they get involved, or if Saudi gets involved, Saudi's not going to get involved because Saudi is like a subservient child, if you will.
	They are trying to come up as the inferior complex that they have, and they want to be known as one of the leading nations of the world.
	And so they're not going to get involved in a war where they can be flattened.
	I see.
	What they're trying to do is they're trying to beg or get their seat at the table.
	Okay, all right.
	Well, but they have a tremendous amount of influence because of their energy.
	They do, but that seat at the table isn't there yet.
	Okay.
	And that's what MBS is doing at the moment.
	So it's a grand chess game that's going on.
	And then you wonder, you know, the natural question that everyone asks, why is Palestine alone amongst 2 billion Muslims?
	Yeah, that's a question that I've had, too.
	Absolutely.
	But hold on, let's back up for a second.
	So I want to say I agree with you that what's being carried out against the Palestinian people in Gaza is genocide.
	And even the ICJ, their recent decision that that's a plausible legal argument against them, That underscores that.
	And we see, for example, with Hezbollah, we see Nazrallah talk a lot, but not do anything.
	At least not yet, perhaps.
	Maybe there's going to be a big war between Hezbollah and Israel.
	But I have other intel sources that say Israel is about to greatly expand its war in Lebanon, into Lebanon.
	Which would seemingly be an act of provocation that would get Iran possibly interested.
	So there are a lot of paths for this to escalate dramatically.
	And when you look at the fact that Israel has announced they're going to attack Rafah on Ramadan...
	Talk about a provocation.
	It's almost like it's a scripted event to cause World War III on purpose.
	And then the U.S. being like a schizophrenic psychopath saying, oh, Israel, stop bombing the civilians, but here, have a lot more bombs.
	Here, let's send you weapons, but please stop using them?
	It doesn't make any sense.
	So I think we're on, I mean, this is just my opinion, obviously, but it seems like we're on the verge of major, major escalations in the Middle East.
	It's a little bit of a puzzle.
	It's a little bit of a jigsaw puzzle.
	Israel knows Israel won't survive if it expands its war.
	I think you're right about that.
	There's a lot at stake with Israel because one taking out of a defense missile or oil refinery because they're pitting their future on the new wealth that they found.
	Gaza and Palestine is sitting on the biggest oil reserve in the world.
	Gas.
	That's right, gas.
	And there may be even other, I think there's diamonds there too.
	Whether it's worth anything or not, that's a whole different story.
	But the energy is worth trillions.
	The energy is worth leadership at the table, again.
	One of the premier G7s, if you want to call it that.
	They'll be at the table and become a G8 or whatever it is.
	That's why I don't think it's going to go.
	That's why I don't think it'll go further.
	Wait, I don't understand.
	That's why Israel, I don't think, will go further and provoke, and continue to provoke.
	But they are provoking now.
	You're saying they're going to stop provoking?
	If they continue to provoke, then that proves that this leadership is truly in the hands of the Zionists in the Middle East.
	The Hussein of Jordan, the MBS of Saudi, the Lebanese.
	He might be actually Christian.
	He might be a Christian ruler.
	What about Turkey?
	What about Erdogan?
	That's a tough one.
	That political side, I don't have enough information to be able to give you an educated answer.
	But at some point, domestically in these various countries, The Arab populations must be putting a lot of pressure on their leaders to respond or do something.
	No, actually they can't.
	No?
	You speak up and you'll be chucked away.
	I see.
	This is definitely true in Saudi.
	Dubai is a mosaic of, you know, it's just an international city.
	It's basically Vegas.
	People are there for soulless reasons.
	Right.
	But I said Dubai.
	I really, you know, it's really the wider Emirates.
	And the wider Emirates is just three million Emiratis.
	The rest of the country is basically expats.
	But then there's Jordan.
	Jordan and Syria, those would be the countries and the people that would be saying, and Palestine, that would be saying, what's going on here?
	Right.
	But they've been crushed.
	What about Egypt?
	Egypt is the same way.
	The people are living under, you know, again, they've been dictator after dictator after dictator.
	Again, it's divided.
	And divide, you conquer.
	And you can divide, you can micro-divide people.
	So we're divided at the macro level, Christian versus Muslim.
	They're divided at the micro level, which is, you know, this neighborhood from that neighborhood, and what are you showing on TV? And what's going on in this square or that square?
	So it's...
	The elite at the top are the same as the elite across the world that we see in Egypt, for instance.
	But clearly the Yemenis are not abiding by that.
	That's right.
	But they've been bombed to smithereens.
	Well, I don't know about the smithereens part, though.
	It seems like they're still effective.
	I mean, they've been bombed, but it hasn't stopped them.
	And then you have Iran is not playing by the globalist rules.
	Clearly, Russia is not.
	China depends on which view you espouse there.
	But China has its own agenda, obviously, and it's also a powerhouse in our world today.
	And for me, that's the big question.
	And I haven't quite nailed that down, if you will.
	I mean, there's going to be political commentary on all sides, but we can see that if the war expands, there's going to be higher risk, and everyone faces loss.
	And the fact...
	If Israel continues trunching forward, then it just tells me that there are more people in the back pocket amongst that region's rulers than we originally imagined.
	But, you know, you've seen the maps.
	Israel wants to seize everything from the River Jordan to the Mediterranean Sea, from the river to the sea.
	That's their saying.
	That's right.
	They want it all.
	I mean, goodbye Jordan, goodbye Syria, you know, goodbye.
	I mean, if they get what they want, don't the Arab people realize they will all be exterminated?
	There's two sides to that.
	If you look at the Palestinians and you look at, you know, what can they do?
	They're stuck.
	Yeah, they're stuck.
	But a lot of other nations are not stuck.
	That's right.
	Well, I mean, Syria was also, you know, Damascus was also just raised down a couple of years back.
	Yeah.
	There's limited things that they can do.
	And it's a voice.
	They're screaming.
	They're screaming at the world stage.
	And the world is also screaming.
	Yes, true.
	This is how much power they have.
	Meaning, the other side.
	The one worldist.
	The Zionists, if you will.
	The one worldist.
	The one who wants to take over the world and basically have us subjugated on the universe of basic income and crickets.
	That's basically what they want.
	And they're the ones in power right now.
	Is it possible the Antichrist exists today and is running that whole program?
	So in our tradition, the sayings of the prophet, there's actually two sayings, and they're both opposing each other.
	So one of them's wrong.
	Okay.
	And one of them says that at the time of the prophet, a set of people set out on boat and sailed for about a month from Saudi Arabia.
	And they arrived at land, and they went to a cave, and they found somebody there.
	And it was a gruffy-looking, lots of hair man chained up, like a beast-like creature chained up.
	And he asked a set of questions.
	And one of the questions he asked was, is there a person who has called himself a prophet?
	And does he bring a new religion?
	Then he said, my time is coming.
	So the showing up of Prophet Muhammad is also the showing up of the foretelling of the end of times.
	And so there's that one tradition that says that he is alive.
	And he's living in some cave.
	And they think that it was probably England.
	That's where the boat went.
	Traveled a month.
	That's a long time.
	It kind of fits.
	I mean, that's a faraway place to go in a boat.
	Whether it's true or not, that's a whole other...
	Okay.
	I'm not saying that it's true.
	They didn't have the Suez Canal back in those days either.
	No, no.
	Yeah.
	And then there's another one where a child will be born.
	And as a child continues to grow up, he'll throw a fit.
	And the fit he'll throw is he'll, like, throw his hands down and all of a sudden he'll have some sort of a power.
	It'll make something react.
	You know, he'll, you know, if this water, he'll, like, push the water away or something.
	Something will happen.
	He'll discover powers.
	Special powers.
	Yeah.
	And he will grow up and he will realize that he's got this special power and he will then emerge eventually as the Antichrist.
	Oh.
	So one is born already, living through the ages, and the other one is yet to be born.
	I see.
	But when this person or beast-like creature, the Antichrist is this beast-like creature, and actually the tradition of the prophet...
	He says one thing.
	He says, I affirm the traditions of my previous, I affirm the sayings of my previous tradition, the previous traditions, that there'll be an Antichrist, that there'll be a Dajjal.
	He affirms that he'll come.
	But I'm going to tell you one thing that the other ones have not said.
	That this beast-like creature, this Dajjal, will have one eye.
	One eye?
	Yes.
	This is fascinating, but it brings up the question, if the Antichrist is not currently alive and running this show, then it means that Truly evil humans are doing this all on their own without Antichrist oversight.
	That's also bad news because it means that humans can be so incredibly evil that they can, and we know certain ones can be, that they can exterminate entire ethnic groups or attempt to in order to get power and greed and control over people.
	Kissinger comes to mind.
	Yeah, Kissinger.
	Exactly.
	Great example.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	And so, again, many, many examples.
	This is Boris Johnson.
	How about that?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	It's interesting because he's the grand grandson of the leader who brought down Turkey.
	Is he really?
	Yes.
	I did not know that.
	But what about Netanyahu?
	I mean, I've declared Netanyahu as the most evil person living on planet Earth today, although I should put an asterisk, unless the Antichrist is alive.
	But unless the Antichrist is alive, Netanyahu is so evil.
	I mean, he just reeks of pure evil, evil intent.
	Deception, lies, he just wants to slaughter millions of people.
	So was Sharon.
	And Sharon is probably the one who started...
	I mean, you know, obviously it was Rothschilds who initially instigated the whole movement, but Sharon was the one who initiated that whole Palestinian Hamas thing.
	Hamas is funded by the Israelis.
	That's how Hamas came about.
	They were initially funded by the Israelis, and they've continued to be funded by the Israelis.
	And, you know, we can talk about facts, and all the facts are available.
	They're all available.
	We can actually do that again and go through that.
	No, we don't have to reprocess that, but we're trying to get the bigger picture.
	But here's the thing.
	I'm going back to the statement that I made earlier.
	They know our tradition better than we do.
	What that means is they are power mongers.
	They want the power.
	They want the ultimate power.
	There is evil in the world.
	And when the human heart falls to that side of doing evil, doing bad, enriching yourself at the expense of others, greed has no end.
	And so this Davos crowd, if you will, the elite, you can't be a politician unless you've given in something.
	You've given up something.
	They know what the believers' traditions are.
	That there's going to be an end time.
	Jesus Christ is going to come down.
	He is going to slay the Antichrist.
	They are aware of the Antichrist.
	Satanic individual.
	And there are many of these people who are Freemasons.
	And in my reading of Freemasonry, you're a devil worshiper.
	You're a Satan worshiper.
	If you practice high-level Freemasonry.
	That's right.
	Beyond the 33rd level or whatever it is.
	So anything 33rd and above?
	It seems like the people who are below 33rd don't know.
	Don't know what's going on.
	They're just going to the local club.
	They go to the local club, exactly, the Rotary Club, and they have a good time, and they wear these aprons and all of that stuff.
	Do they wear aprons?
	They have this thing that they put on...
	The symbolism is...
	Incredible.
	The symbolism is incredible.
	And it's here on American land with the Super Bowl.
	I don't watch the Super Bowl because of this.
	But the symbolism and what they practice.
	No, I don't watch the Super Bowl either.
	I don't want satanic.
	It's satanic.
	Impregnated images in my brain.
	That's right.
	I don't tune into that crap.
	And so, why are they doing that?
	Why are, you know, the celebrities of the world, they've had to, like, literally give blood in order to make it and become and own this world.
	Yeah, like Taylor Swift.
	They own this world.
	Right.
	Right?
	And for us, the way I think about this world is, this is not our heaven.
	Yeah.
	This is almost, it is, in fact, our hell.
	I've often had the same thought, by the way.
	This is actually the combat testing ground, the spiritual combat.
	That is correct.
	That is how I view it too.
	This is infested with so much evil that God is asking you to prove who you are to resist the evil in this realm.
	That is correct.
	Because it's so easy for people to go over into evil.
	That's right.
	We're not meant to enjoy our existence here.
	This is a journey.
	The journey has an end.
	And along this journey, we are asked to stay on the right path.
	Stay on the right track.
	Do good.
	You're not going to be happy in this world.
	Happiness is elusive.
	We just have to be content with what we've been given Palestine, the Palestinians.
	They're content.
	They're like, okay, this is happening.
	This is the will of God.
	But we are going to take it with patience.
	We're going to speak out against it because my mother is dying here and my father is dying here and my brother died over here.
	It's hell.
	But we are, in our tradition, we're taught to take it with patience.
	That is hell on earth to have your neighborhoods and hospitals and universities bombed into rubble while the world looks upon it and says, keep going to the country doing the bombing.
	I mean, it's incredible.
	If the world should be denouncing anything right now, it's the bombing in Gaza.
	The world is, the people are.
	The people are wise to it.
	But who has the power to do the stopping?
	And so, if I were to ever, I don't go on protests.
	Because what are you protesting?
	Are you protesting the people that are above you in political power?
	I will never stoop myself down to their level.
	I will never stoop down and say, oh, Mr.
	Pollard, please stop bombing.
	I will never do that.
	I will go on a march, and I will march silently as a protest against this.
	Let's shift gears for a little bit.
	And by the way, I really appreciate your forthrightness here.
	I mean, this is a really fascinating conversation.
	And I appreciate you being here and just being open-hearted.
	Thank you for the invite.
	It's my pleasure.
	Let's talk about finance for a minute because of your background on Wall Street.
	And you're obviously very much aware of the global de-dollarization acceleration that's happening and how the Western countries have weaponized the dollar.
	They tried to weaponize it against Russia with cutting Russia off from the SWIFT system and now potentially seizing $300 billion of Russian assets held in Western banks, which seems like a suicide cult move on the part of the West.
	What's your take on...
	How long does the dollar have left, given the way things are going right now?
	So I'm an investor in silver.
	You're an investor in silver?
	I am.
	All of my wealth is pretty much in silver.
	Well, that says a lot right there.
	I thought it was happening in 2008.
	That's, I thought I was having in 2008.
	Yes.
	I'm in Toronto, and all I'm doing is I'm just buying up tons of silver.
	Wow.
	Not tons, not literally tons, but you know.
	Well, silver is pretty heavy.
	It doesn't, you could get to tons.
	Figuratively speaking.
	The world is, so the SWIFT system is on its way out.
	I can never give you...
	There's also lots of symbolism here.
	And when is this going to happen?
	And what was really going on with Tucker Carlson and...
	The Russian Putin interview.
	And was it predicted?
	Was it part of a plan?
	And I believe it was part of a plan.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Part of a plan to do what?
	I think there are good guys on the other side.
	And I think Putin is one of the good guys.
	Huh.
	I don't know if that's a good thing for me to say or not.
	There's no judgment.
	We're here to hear your views.
	I mean, the audience is going to make up their own minds, but I would say that a lot of the audience believes that we should hear from Putin, whether you agree or disagree.
	100%.
	And whereas half the media in the West is like, how dare you listen to Putin?
	So I am applying for federal funding, and I meet all kinds of people from the Department of Defense and Air Force and what have you, because they're partners with the accelerator that I'm a part of.
	I've even met with DARPA. Really?
	Yes.
	And just for my project.
	Are you like a secret agent?
	No, no, no.
	Super secret military project?
	We can talk about where I come from and how I got here, but I want to influence change in the world.
	I am interested in a good world.
	I'm interested in a peaceful world.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's what I want, too.
	And I want to do it as a Muslim and show people that we're here For peace.
	We're here for a better world so that we can all live together.
	But DARPA's not here for peace.
	DARPA's like every weapon system against humanity.
	The nature of the conversation with DARPA was, I'm working on something that's super cutting edge.
	So I am working on something that's super cutting edge.
	In soil and microbes.
	Without microbes, life doesn't exist.
	And so some of my research is so cutting edge that it interested them.
	Even the head of the CIA and the counterintelligence of the CIA, I'm not passing judgment on what they do and where they come from.
	That's not...
	Because I'm going out, you know...
	So, here's the thing.
	I speak to a lot of people, and there's a lot of good guys in this massive agencies.
	Yeah, I know.
	There are good guys throughout the different agencies.
	It's just like the hierarchy in a country, right?
	You've got the leaders out there, the DOJ, whatever, and then the people underneath, and there's lots of good guys there.
	And I... You know, you could call me crazy, but...
	Or rose-colored glasses, whatever you want to say.
	I believe that we're going to win.
	Who's we?
	The good guys are going to win.
	Meaning the people who are on the side of right.
	People on the side of God.
	And there are many people in the DoD that worship God.
	I've had those conversations with them.
	They're good guys.
	But when they see the agency do that, what can they do?
	They're going to be ousted.
	So you stay quiet and you keep going.
	And I think that there are inner workings going on.
	The CIA is doing something and they're doing something on that side, but there's inner workings going on within the agency that are trying to pull it onto this side.
	Okay.
	And I believe that...
	Like the white hat theory.
	The white hat theory.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	I don't know what the white hat and all of that hat theory...
	I don't get into that whole stuff.
	I just look at it and I'm just seeing it like it is.
	Okay.
	And I think that we'll go to a gold standard.
	And I think that we'll...
	You think the dollar's going to collapse and then we're going to have a new currency backed by gold?
	Yes.
	And where does silver play into this?
	Silver is poor man's currency.
	It's a commoner's currency.
	So the gold has been acquired over the last, I would say, 10 years.
	10-ish odd years in record amounts by all the banks.
	Including China.
	Including China.
	That's right.
	And I think that the U.S. is supposed to have the most amount of gold, 8,500 tons.
	But it doesn't.
	I think they do, but they're not telling.
	And I think the good guys have it.
	Really?
	Yes.
	You have to read this book called Gold Warriors.
	Okay.
	Alright, I'm a little skeptical of your optimism here.
	You think good guys have the gold.
	Yes.
	But 8,500 tons is still small compared to what China has.
	China has like tens of thousands of tons.
	I think they have 20,000 tons.
	But America has a lot of China's gold.
	During the Nanking Wars with China and Japan, and that's why Japan was bombed, you know what America was doing?
	So, you know what Japan was doing?
	Japan was pillaging Chinese gold, World War II, and moving it to the Philippines, into underground bunkers.
	Why?
	Why the Philippines?
	That's where the safety was.
	They had basically dug and dug and dug and they were moving to the Philippines.
	If my memory serves me, it was the Philippines.
	And then America invaded.
	America knew this.
	They invaded Japan and they took all the gold.
	And that gold, I believe, is hidden in America somewhere.
	Wow, that sounds like a feature movie.
	Like an adventure secret here.
	Read Gold Warriors.
	Gold Warriors, huh?
	The author, Sterling Seagrave and I think Peggy Seagrave, are in hiding.
	So, I don't even know what the title of this interview.
	It's like, conversations with a Muslim American gold hunter.
	Or something, you know what I mean?
	It's like, we've covered a lot of interesting things here.
	But, you are saying that the dollar doesn't It doesn't last forever, obviously.
	No, I think that's, yes.
	I think a lot of people believe that, and it's on its way out.
	Right.
	But if this is all scripted...
	Yeah.
	Perhaps, I mean, I might agree with that under certain conditions.
	Maybe it is all scripted.
	But then when would the collapse be at the most opportune time for the globalists to reap the most control?
	You know, when would they want to make that collapse take place?
	Yeah, I can't say that I fully worked that out.
	The gold standard means...
	I think, let me just test this.
	I think the gold standard means that we go to good.
	We go to goodness, generally speaking.
	I think the elite, the Davos crowd, does not want the gold standard.
	They want universal basic income.
	Clearly.
	No, they want CBDCs and they want to control everybody.
	They want to see exactly where you're spending your money.
	They'll make the CBDC available to you when you're a good person and you got your VAX, you're up to date on your VAX boosting.
	Right, right.
	And then you'll get the deposit in your bank and you'll be living in these Blade Runner cubbyholes.
	15-minute cities.
	Yeah, 15-minute cities.
	Okay, so...
	Gold-backed currency, that sounds positive for humanity.
	Muslims and Christians coming together instead of killing each other, especially in the Middle East.
	At some point, the Zionists have to either back down or probably end up destroying themselves, it seems.
	That's where the good guy versus the bad guy fight is.
	I see.
	It's going to come to a head.
	Is this going to happen in our lifetimes?
	I don't know.
	Is the Antichrist going to come in our lifetimes?
	I don't know.
	But that is going to happen.
	Okay.
	And what they're trying to do is I think they're trying to fast forward it.
	Okay.
	And why are they trying to fast forward it?
	Because they're losing control?
	Because they want total dominant control.
	And they want a 500 million population.
	Oh.
	Right?
	They want total dominant control.
	And so that, you know, that's where those stone, you know, our version of the Stonehenge, you know what that is?
	The Georgia guy stones.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Our version of it.
	Oh yeah, they talk about depopulation.
	They talk about depopulation.
	I think that's what they want.
	The CBDC is eating crickets, fully boosted, you're going down that way.
	And then the flip side of it is a gold standard, we've purchased silver, and silver is now worth $1,500 an ounce.
	At least $250 an ounce, but there's decent research that it could be much higher.
	Yeah.
	Well, we know it's been really suppressed and manipulated.
	I mean, you worked at J.P. Morgan.
	Yeah.
	I mean, has J.P. Morgan been fined millions of dollars for manipulating silver prices?
	I think it was $900 million.
	Yeah.
	Was it $900 million?
	It seems like it was close to a billion dollars.
	Yeah.
	For just market manipulation.
	Just a drop in the bucket.
	Yeah, a drop in the bucket.
	Yeah.
	Because if you can manipulate the markets, you can just create another billion dollars to pay the fine for the manipulation that you already did.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	Okay, well, this has been a fascinating conversation.
	I hope it's the first of many.
	I hope so, too.
	Is there anything else you want to add here before we wrap this up, or anything you want to ask me, or anything?
	No, I see a bright future.
	I'm hopeful.
	That's what we're taught in our tradition, to always have hope, no matter what's happening.
	There's a saying in our tradition, actually, and the saying goes something like, if you see the day of judgment approaching, finish planting that tree.
	Always have hope, no matter what.
	As bleak as the world may seem, where we sit today, it doesn't have to be.
	We have to keep at it.
	We have to create the parallel system.
	I believe that we do have to create the parallel system.
	We need to know how to fix a car.
	We need to know how to do our doctoring, medical administration outside of the hospital system.
	Yes.
	Because in order to get to the hospital, you have to be fully compliant, etc., etc.
	Growing our own food.
	Absolutely.
	And that's my sliver of the universe.
	Yeah, I'm into that too.
	I want to do that for, yeah, the world.
	So, all the preparedness skills that our audience is learning...
	They're going to serve you well today, right now, even just with food inflation or food scarcity, but also in the end times, whenever that is.
	Exactly.
	The final battle against the Antichrist.
	The final battle in which forces of evil probably kill billions of human beings, by the way.
	I think about that sometimes.
	I mean, I know you're talking about a message of hope and optimism.
	I think about, they've killed almost 30,000 civilians in Gaza right now.
	And that is still, not to dismiss that, but it's still tiny compared to what they want to achieve in terms of fatalities, because we're talking billions.
	That's right.
	They're doing it already with the likes of Monsanto and all of those.
	They've taken over 99.3% of our farmland in America.
	And so they're doing it, and that's my plight.
	And how many people have been given the death jabs?
	Over 5 billion people around the world.
	Have taken these jabs.
	I just interviewed an expert the other day who said the actual deaths from those have only barely begun.
	That three to five years down the road it will continue to accelerate.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's scary.
	That's scary.
	Do Muslims have a natural rejection of vaccines?
	Or is that not true?
	Um...
	In this generation, when we immigrate, it's usually the doctors and the engineers and the high-educated that immigrate here, and they become taxi drivers.
	So if you ask a taxi driver what their true profession is, they'll probably end up saying that, and they couldn't get a job here.
	Unfortunately, a large swath of the population in America, and large swaths in Indonesia, Pakistan, Malaysia, got the jab.
	I hope I'm not being too forward to ask this question, but doesn't that jab violate the teachings of the Quran?
	It absolutely does.
	Well, not...
	So, a vaccine for measles or smallpox is allowed, and people equate it to that.
	I see.
	I'm talking about mRNA, transhumanism, genetic alteration.
	That is...
	I'm pretty sure Muhammad would not have been...
	Yay!
	That's awesome.
	There's a whole set of leadership and there's a community here.
	We're spread out all over the U.S. that we didn't get the jab.
	And there's a community in Texas.
	And there's a community, like on my Telegram group, there's a couple of communities that call them.
	Just like in Christian groups, there are vaccine-compliant Christians...
	Who also eat the worst church junk food that you can imagine, like donuts and Pop-Tarts.
	The vaccines are in there.
	It's wild.
	It's insane what Bill Gates is doing with food.
	Yeah, but then there's Christian groups that are totally opposed to vaccines.
	Right.
	And there's a lot of other Christian-oriented groups, like there's the Amish and Mennonites and so on, various groups that typically reject all that, wisely, I would add.
	Yes.
	They haven't made the connection.
	So, you know, smallpox, there's validity in smallpox.
	There's validity in that.
	I got chickenpox when I was in Nigeria, and so I didn't have to get that jab or get that vaccine.
	But the vaccines has changed.
	But the realization that the vaccines have changed hasn't changed because it's that boiling frog syndrome.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think it's interesting how the pandemic has been used to take Muslims and Christians and trick them into violating their own teachings.
	This was all kept from us, right?
	We still truly don't know what the implication is.
	I mean, you know, mRNA, is it forming some sort of a communication network within the body?
	And then now we're going to be patented, yeah, and all of that.
	Yeah, I've heard all that.
	Yeah, so people, it's just too much for people to handle.
	And then the peer pressure around people is like, oh my god, you didn't get vaccinated?
	You better get vaccinated.
	I was not allowed to go to, I'm not going to say whose wedding, but one of my relatives' wedding.
	Because you weren't vaccinated?
	Because I was not compliant.
	Wow.
	Yes.
	Well, that's a good excuse to skip the wedding anyway, if you didn't want to go.
	It's like, ah, sorry.
	And you wonder, how did you and I and your listeners figure this out?
	What was it?
	That made us figure this out.
	Well, because we learned long ago not to trust the authorities.
	Authorities do not have our best interests in mind.
	It's more than that.
	It's a stack of experience.
	Yes.
	It's the education.
	It's the wherewithal.
	It's the belief in God.
	It's how we view the world with our families and what we want to see in the world.
	We want to play an active role in the world as an active participant instead of a passive recipient.
	Right.
	And we're still alive because of the wisdom that we have exhibited to say no to the jabs, whereas we all know of people who took those shots and they're dead.
	There's a lot of dead Christians, a lot of dead Muslims, a lot of dead Buddhists right now who took the vaccines.
	Yes.
	We don't hear from them for some reason anymore.
	Yeah.
	Well, again, they died of cancer.
	They died of a heart attack.
	They died of myocarditis.
	It was never the vaccine, but they all took the vaccine.
	Definitely not the vaccine.
	All right.
	Well, truly fascinating.
	And I can't thank you enough for coming here and sharing this with me.
	I hope this has been a fruitful discussion from your point of view as well.
	Absolutely.
	Has it been good?
	Total pleasure.
	Great.
	Great to hear.
	Absolutely great.
	Well, thank you so much for coming.
	Thank you.
	How do I say...
	Wait, what other language do you speak?
	Or when you pray...
	In Islam, do you pray in a different language?
	Do you pray in English?
	Yes, so we pray in Arabic.
	In Arabic?
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	So when I pray, I pray in Arabic.
	You do?
	Yes, I do.
	So how would I say, like, God bless you in Arabic?
	Just to kind of like to wrap up a conversation like this, and I want to say, God bless you.
	You know, like honoring you as a human being.
	You can say.
	You can say, Jazakallah khair.
	Jazakallah khair.
	May God reward you with good.
	Oh, that's what that means.
	Jazza is which part?
	Jazza is good.
	Yeah.
	Allah. Allah. Is Allah.
	Jazza Allah. Khair is good. Khair.
	Yeah.
	Jazza Allah khair.
	Jazza Allah khair. Jazza Allah khair.
	Why is the kh in front of Allah?
	It's just the way that the word...
	I don't know the...
	But it's just the way the words are joined.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Great.
	That's basically...
	Generally people say it when they're thanking someone.
	Oh.
	Well, thank you for teaching me how to say that.
	Absolutely.
	I had a friend who grew up in Lebanon and he was teaching me a few phrases like...
	Oh, Ahlan wa Sahlan.
	What does that mean?
	It's a greeting.
	It's a greeting, yeah.
	It's a greeting, basically.
	Ahlan wa Sahlan.
	So when we meet, you know, it's Salaam.
	May you have peace.
	So you're basically wishing peace on the other people.
	Salaam, isn't it like, I've heard of Salaam Alaikum.
	Salaam Alaikum.
	Yeah.
	Salaam Alaikum.
	But there's more after that if you're Muslim, right?
	So, yes.
	As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu.
	Well, okay.
	It might take me a while to get all that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	All in good time.
	Okay.
	I don't actually speak the Arabic language.
	But you pray in it.
	We are taught to pray in it.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Well, I read the Quran in it.
	Oh.
	Because there's goodness in reading the speech of God in its original form.
	And then in order for me to understand it, I will read the translation.
	So you don't speak conversational Arabic?
	I do not.
	Not yet.
	I see.
	Not yet, yes.
	Well, it seems like it would be a very useful skill.
	Oh, there's no question.
	And it's almost like a bad mark on me.
	That you don't?
	That I don't.
	And it's basically a testament to me being busy.
	I know the feeling.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, it's not obligatory, obviously.
	Yeah.
	Because there are so many people in the world, and Arabic isn't our native language.
	And it is an involved language to learn.
	I would imagine.
	It's not that easy.
	It'll take a long time.
	And it's one of those things which you can...
	It's almost asymptotic.
	You just keep learning and learning and learning and learning.
	And the nuance of it and the history and the poetry behind it.
	There's so much history.
	Oh, I'm sure.
	In the language, there's so much richness there.
	Yeah.
	So, definitely.
	But it can be a lifetime endeavor.
	And I kind of wish that I did in my early period, but I was too busy trying to make money.
	No, I get it.
	But I love learning other languages.
	Yes.
	Because you learn so much about the people and about the culture by learning to speak their language.
	So I speak Urdu.
	Urdu.
	Yeah, it's a language.
	Urdu and Hindi are almost very, very similar.
	Okay.
	It's from the Indian subcontinent.
	So you go back home, let's say, to Pakistan.
	Would you call that home?
	No, I would not.
	Okay.
	I actually don't know.
	I don't know if I have a home, if you will.
	Okay, okay.
	Your home is Earth.
	My home is Earth.
	Okay, for now.
	I mean, it's a temporary thing.
	Yes.
	Yeah, we get it.
	But if you went to Pakistan, you would have no trouble speaking with the people there.
	Yeah, I mean, they would laugh at me because I would have an English accent.
	Okay, yeah.
	Right.
	They would laugh at me way worse.
	I can watch a Bollywood movie and understand it.
	Oh, really?
	Yes.
	Oh, that's a great skill.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, I speak enough Espanol to live in Texas.
	Right.
	Yeah, I lived in Ecuador before.
	Oh, wow.
	And I had a lot of local friends, and I was speaking pretty good Spanish when I lived there.
	I lived in Taiwan for a couple years, and so I speak a fair amount of Mandarin.
	And given that my wife is from Taiwan, I've heard Mandarin.
	I can understand it more than I can speak it.
	But I love the Chinese language, because it's so radically different from Western languages.
	Wow.
	Right.
	Espanol and English is like, eh, it's kind of the same thing, just different words for the same thing.
	But Chinese, no.
	Your brain has to think differently.
	That's right.
	Maybe Arabic's the same way.
	Right.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Arabic, Persian, that whole region is very similar.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And it's...
	One word can have so many different meanings.
	It all depends on the context.
	I couldn't even begin to get into it.
	No worries.
	I just think it's fascinating.
	Well, okay.
	I can go on, but I want to be respectful of your time and also wrap this up.
	But let's do this again sometime.
	Definitely.
	Okay.
	That'd be great.
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	Well, thank you so much for joining me today.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for having me.
	Alright folks, thank you for tuning in.
	I hope you found this to be a fascinating conversation.
	And I just want to say, I think from both of us here, we can say, we're doing this on purpose to demonstrate that Muslims and Christians don't have to fight or be at each other's throats or anything.
	In fact, As our guest was saying here today, it's Muslims and Christians working together that actually defeat the Antichrist and set humanity free for a new golden age.
	So think about that, folks.
	Think about that.
	The next time you hear a pastor or a government telling you that you need to hate this other group, you should check that.
	Maybe hatred is not the right answer here.
	Maybe we need to learn to live together and find commonality that you may not have thought of before.
	For example, Muslims love their children too.
	Muslims have family values.
	And they are very dedicated to their family values.
	And that's something that Christians share, among many other things.
	The respect of hard work and personal honor and keeping your word.
	These values are universal across the Koran as well as the Bible and other religious texts around the world.
	They have a lot more in common than you might suppose.
	In any case, that's all I'm going to lecture on that topic right now, but thank you for joining us today.
	I'm Mike Adams here for brightyan.com.
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	And it's available right now at healthrangerstore.com.
	Just go there.
	You can search for peanut butter to find our chocolate banana peanut butter shake.
	Or if you want the macaroni and cheese, just go to healthrangerstore.com and search for organic wheat-free macaroni and cheese with no salt added.
	Or check out...
	There are hundreds of other products, such as, like, you can look at herbs right here.
	All these different categories, different herbs and tinctures.
	We have garden seeds.
	We have superfoods.
	We have personal care products.
	Here we have organic turmeric gold extract.
	We have the knives, the Dawson knives.
	I've co-designed these with Dawson knives.
	You've probably heard about these.
	This is under preparedness.
	Survival gear.
	We've got, well, let me just show you.
	We've got all the different knives right here made of the corrosion-resistant MagnaCut alloy.
	Mass ratio is one very popular.
	That's back in stock now.
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	We've got other knives available, including Escape from L.A. Hey, I wonder, is that sold out?
	Hard to keep in stock.
	But check it all out at healthrangerstore.com.
	This is how you can support us.
	And then we give back to you in a multitude of ways with knowledge, with empowerment, with the large language model we're going to be giving away here soon, coming up end of March, with all the interviews and all the things that we do, plus we just made a $100,000 donation to Convoy of Hope of non-GMO vitamin C. So when we are able to,
	we buy an extra large batch of raw materials and then we use our in-house manufacturing and testing and we will overproduce certain batches knowing that we can use Convoy of Hope to distribute them to people in need It's a Christian-based ministry that distributes food and supplements.
	And we've worked with them several times now.
	And just the other day, $100,000 worth of vitamin C. So that's going out into the hands of people in need across America.
	Sometimes they distribute to other nations, but they focus on the United States of America.
	And we will continue to support people in need anywhere that we can.
	Remember that our slogan is...
	The Health Ranger Store, healing the world with clean food.
	That's our philosophy.
	That's what we practice.
	That's what we preach.
	That's what we do.
	We do the lab testing.
	We manufacture clean, simple ingredients that are authentic and pure and tasty.
	It's like nothing else that you've ever seen in the processed food industry or the processed, storable food industry.
	And a lot of the survival food out there is just heavily processed garbage.
	I'm sorry to say that's just honest truth of what it is.
	You want real food?
	Come to HealthRangerStore.com.
	Thank you for your support.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighttown.com and the Health Ranger Store.
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