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Dec. 28, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Sam Andrews from Freedom Center USA talks Second Amendment...
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And today we're joined by a new guest.
Sam Andrews is the founder of Freedom Center USA. And the website is freedomtrain.net.
And he also owns a tier one weapons manufacturing company that manufactures extremely capable high-end weapon systems for U.S. operators and who are being deployed, of course, right now in a couple of different theaters of war.
And Mr.
Andrews joins us to talk about domestic power, a Senate bill, supply shortages, and much more.
So welcome, Mr.
Andrews.
It's an honor to have you on today.
Mike, thank you for having me.
It's a pleasure to be with you.
Well, thank you for joining me.
And I also want to thank our mutual acquaintance, John Moore.
I understand you appear on his show once a week.
Is that right to talk about firearms?
I do.
I'm on the John Moore Show every Monday morning, 8 to 10 Central Time, 0800 to 1000 hours Central Time.
On the Republic Broadcast Network, we do a show together called Firearms Monday.
Okay, fantastic.
And in our little pre-talk, we were talking about the fact that, of course, you're also very competent at long-range shooting and manufacturing systems that are capable of long-range engagements.
Can you give us just kind of a brief background of who you are and what kinds of systems your companies produce?
Well, if you want to go back a ways, I grew up as the son of the owner of a printing press manufacturing company called Mark Andy.
My grandfather invented the flexographic printing press.
So I grew up in a family of inventors and engineers, and I got into weapons at a very early age.
My uncle was studies and observation group in Vietnam, and he was a long-range shooter after he got out of the military.
And he had me hand-loading cartridges and doing precision shooting with him at the age of seven.
So I've been doing this a long time, almost 60 years, and it's been a passion of mine.
I pushed the outside of the envelope and advanced the art of long-range shooting with different technology, research and development of the powdered tungsten bullets from Powell River Laboratories.
SEAL Team 6, SEAL Team 5, Secret Service all use those products.
Secret Service guards are present with those products.
We've developed some deep nitriding processes to allow big long-range guns, the barrels to live and not foul.
We do some things that just aren't done anywhere else in the world, and it's a lot of fun.
And we've got a thousand-yard range at the Freedom Center we can test the equipment with, and we just keep pushing the envelope trying to get better.
And to extend what our capabilities are.
We can shoot now sub five inch groups at 2200 yards with certain long range systems.
And I've killed elk at 1900 yards.
I've killed mule deer at 2600 yards.
Killed countless antelope past 1,000 yards.
And over the last three decades, we've really seen some major improvements in barrel technology, bullet technology, optics.
Everything has gotten better.
So it's just a lot of fun to work in that industry.
Your Freedom Center USA organization is located in central Missouri, correct?
It is.
It's in sort of southwest central Missouri in a town just southeast of Lebanon, Missouri.
It's right off Interstate 44, about eight minutes away.
And do you do on-site training there with groups then?
We do.
We do about 40 training classes a year.
We train in four different genres.
We train in combat skills, defensive skills with handguns and M4s, AR-15s.
Most advanced training you can get at this facility.
And we have a thousand-yard range.
We do introduction to thousand-yard shooting.
We do advanced long-range and precision shooting.
We do advanced sniper training.
We do medical training.
Just fantastic.
Stop the bleeding classes and combat medic courses.
We have SARCs and we have the doctor.
He's the top Doc at the SEER School in Washington, where the pilots learn escape and evasion, and he comes down and helps our SARC put on the best combat medic course In the world.
They do a great job.
I think the last class, each one of the instructors got tipped over a thousand bucks by our students.
Wow.
That's how good a class they put on.
So I'm pretty impressed with that.
You know, it's hard to shoot down that level of tipping going on.
The students were ecstatic with the course.
We also do some preparation training.
I do a A six-hour course.
I travel for this one.
I've done it at the Freedom Center classroom, but we do it in large auditoriums.
It's about six hours long.
I go through 215 executable action steps on how you can prepare you and your family for difficult times.
And what does difficult times mean?
Well, think about the people in Ukraine the day before Russia invaded.
They puffed their chests out.
They stuck their nose up in the air and said, Russia wouldn't dare come in our country.
We'll kill them.
We'll slaughter them like pigs, right?
And then six months later, there's 3.8 million refugees in Europe because Russia invaded.
And so when I say hard times, I mean difficult times.
When logistics break down, the trucks stop running, the water's not flowing, the communication systems are bombed out.
How do you come through that?
Not just survive, but how do you thrive during those times?
It's a six-hour presentation.
I've given it a presentation at churches in Texas.
Like the Bush Center in Missouri, I've given that presentation.
I travel all over the country and teach people how to survive.
And boy, you better bring your notebook and your cell phone because there are 215 executable action steps you can do to make yourself a lot tougher in those type of difficult environments.
And, you know, Republicans are very, very good at defining problems.
Sometimes conservatives and Republicans aren't so great at presenting solutions.
This presentation is all about solutions.
Okay, that's really excellent to hear.
Before we continue, let me just ask for your feedback.
What do you train with or recommend as your ballistics calculator and then also reticles?
Because I've really come to really enjoy the Tremor 3 reticle or the Tremor 2, you know, Horus reticles.
But I'm curious what you use and what you use as a ballistics calculator.
Well, there are some men in special operations that use the Tremor reticles.
But the top guys, particularly 50 cals, the HTI guys, the 330 Lapua guys, they tend to use an MOA reticle because it has finer hold points, and they tend to use it in second focal plane.
We teach a system that's second focal plane, not first, because it's much quicker to get a shot off.
If you take, for example, an unknown range target at, let's say, 1,250 yards.
With a first focal plane Kestrel system, which has become very popular with the PRS shooters and casual long range shooters, because it's kind of like the easy button.
You turn that Kestrel on.
You get a little wind reading at your position.
You look through your scope at the Mirage.
You look at your computer.
You've got your relative air density number or density altitude is a popular way of stating that now.
And then the computer tells you how many minutes or how many mils to hold above.
And then you go down your reticle or you dial your knob, your elevation knob, to break the shot.
In our system, we have a bow sight from 0 to 1,300 yards.
And you don't dial anything.
You actually use a Kilo 10K range from SIG, which is a fantastic product designed by very experienced snipers.
They had a lot of input on that design and they did a great job with it.
And what that allows you to do with one push of the button is to get a complete firing solution.
But we would prefer you learn how to use your optics and learn your trajectory so well and understand relative air density that you don't even have to go to the Kilo rangefinder.
You can passively range with an MOAR reticle and use a hold point and break a shot in less than five seconds.
It takes a lot of time to go from a rangefinder to a kestrel to a scope.
The problem with live targets in the real world, and I can tell you a story about this.
It'll drive the point home.
The problem with live targets is the opportunity to take a shot on an enemy or a live target.
That window can be very, very short.
It could be three seconds, five seconds, seven seconds, but it's rarely 25 seconds.
And never on multiple targets are targets available for 25 seconds.
And so what we found is by learning the reticle, learning the trajectory, learning how to passively range, not coming out of the scope, that you can kill targets.
Some of our fastest guys can range a target and shoot it in less than three seconds, staying in the scope.
Uh-huh.
And when we test it...
Do they dial wind or do they hold wind?
Hold wind.
They hold wind, okay.
Yeah, we teach a technique for holding wind, and we don't use a tremor.
The tremor's nice when you're learning about long-range shooting.
The problem is, is when you get in sophisticated threat environments, the tremor reticles like a screen door.
So if you're collimating thermal or other things, it blocks way too much of your field of view.
Yeah, there's a lot of lines on it.
Yes, sir, especially below the main crosshair.
And so what we found is by, through testing and comparing performance, is that people trained on our system can break shots in less than five seconds.
People trained on the tremor system with the Kestrel are typically over 30 seconds on an unknown range problem.
Oh, well, they're slow then.
Yeah, that's too slow.
Yeah, it's too slow.
Now, I'll tell you an interesting thing.
When I worked for Major General Hollingsworth at the Pentagon, I was given an assignment.
To analyze why snipers miss in the field.
And I had this wonderful opportunity to interview three of the most experienced snipers in history in the United States of America.
One was Mark Karachi.
He's a friend of mine, so that was an easy phone call.
I had to cold call Chuck Mawinney, and I had to cold call Neil Morris.
And I got them involved in the interview.
They answered all the questions, just as Mark did.
And what I found so fascinating about these great men was they answered the key questions exactly the same.
And the first question was, what's the number one reason for a miss?
And all three of them, within seconds, answered a bad call on the wind.
Oh, yeah.
That's the hardest thing we do.
It's the most common reason we miss, is a bad call on the wind.
And I said, I want answers based on your real-world experience working as a sniper, not just general answers.
And they said, well, that's generally true, and it's also true for my career as well.
So they all confirmed that.
The second question I asked them was, what is the second most common reason for a miss?
And they said a bad range estimation, which I thought was interesting.
And I said, what's the third most common reason for a miss?
And these guys were so honest and so real that they said, I couldn't produce the shot in the time that the target exposed itself.
And I said, so you never shot.
And they said, no.
I said, okay, so that's not technically a miss.
And they said, oh, yes, it is.
Because that's a shot that I should have made, and I didn't get the shot off in time.
And all three of them had as their number three answer that they couldn't produce a shot in the time window that the target exposed itself.
And I thought that was absolutely fascinating from a sniping perspective, but also incredibly revealing about the honesty, the internal honesty of these great men.
Yeah.
Yeah, it makes sense, and it reinforces the importance of the speed and efficiency of this.
I want to move on.
I mean, thank you for all that information.
That's really interesting to me as someone who is trained in long-range target shooting.
That's fascinating.
But I want to move on and get to the Senate bill that we talked about in the pre-show a little bit.
What's the Senate bill number, and what is your concern about this bill?
Well, this bill is the largest power grab in the history of the US government.
It's Senate Bill 686.
And after reading the bill, I was thinking they probably should have numbered it Senate Bill 666.
Right.
I mean, it's horrible.
And, you know, our founding fathers had very simply a separation of power concept.
They didn't want any group of men or any one man having too much power.
Senate Bill 686 It prevents the President of the United States from seeing classified information.
It prevents him from declassifying classified information.
It basically gives the Select Intelligence Committee of the U.S. Senate all the power in reviewing and using classified information and declassifying information.
And what applications of that power are we talking about here?
Well, what really scares me is it takes away the president's ability to manage the intelligence agencies, which, by the way, are executive branch agencies.
Yes.
They're deliberately placed under the president of the United States, and that's a very important thing, is to have a check and balance from the president over these agencies.
Do we want every president that doesn't agree with an agency to be John F. Kennedy-ed?
I mean, this is not a good thing.
And what people don't realize is FBI HRT is a Tier 1 asset under JSOC. They're like a national mission team asset.
They function under the command and control of the U.S. military.
They're not really police, FBI HRT. And when the Select Intelligence Committee puts a name on the rendition list, It's FBI HRT that goes and kills that person or throws him out of an airplane at 25,000 over the Atlantic.
They're the ones that take care of business.
And so as Americans, we need to ask a very serious question.
Do we in fact want the same people that have control of the rendition list to have complete control over all the information?
Because if the answer to that question is yes, then a very small group of men We're good to go.
Are there assassination teams then under the FBI that seek out and assassinate people in the United States?
Yes, FBI, HRT, Quantico, Virginia.
That's their job.
And they're given a list and they go out and find the targets and they execute them?
That's exactly what they do.
And what kind of targets are we talking about here?
They're the cleanup crew.
Foreign actors, foreign actors in the U.S., U.S. citizens, FBI, I mean, look at Waco, look at what happened at Ruby Ridge, look what happened to Lavoie Finnicum, FBI HRT. Whenever Americans die on American soil at the hands of the federal government, FBI HRT is there.
Now, I'm not the only one that says this.
If you talk to retired FBI HRT snipers, they'll tell you exactly the same thing.
There's YouTube videos with it.
Retired FBI HRT snipers talking about all the renditions that they handled and the fact that they handle almost all of them.
And what you're saying is this Senate bill would allow just the Senate Intelligence Committee to control this list and this intelligence to set the target list.
Yeah, let's be very specific though.
The Select Intelligence Committee of the U.S. Senate controls the target list.
They have for a very long time.
This is the last group on planet Earth that we want controlling all classified information.
And who currently sits on that committee right now in the current Senate?
You know, I'm not sure who the head is.
You know, there's been some guys that have been on this committee for over two decades, and I can get you a list of them if you like.
I can do that online.
But it's about 18 to 22 guys.
I think, isn't Adam Schiff one of them?
Boy, I sure hope not.
I thought he was on the Judiciary Committee.
Okay, well, yeah, I'm wondering too.
I don't have that answer either.
Now, since the last time I looked at the list of names, they could have put Schiff on the Select Intelligence Committee.
That would have been a huge mistake.
Absolutely.
I mean, if there's one guy that would abuse power to murder his political enemies, it's Adam Schiff.
Absolutely.
Adam Schiff is absolutely in the genre of senators that don't mind killing their political enemies.
So, this Senate bill is not being talked about in the press that I'm aware of very much.
I mean, it hasn't been on my radar.
What's the status of this bill?
Well, I think it's in committee right now, but I hope, I pray that the U.S. House has enough wisdom to tell the Senate to shove this bill where the sun doesn't shine.
That's what I hope.
Do you think that this bill is being moved through committee in anticipation of Trump returning as president?
Yeah, I do.
I think they're afraid that somehow Trump is going to avoid prosecution and somehow he's going to avoid all their election fraud and come away as president in 2024.
You know, and I'll be honest with you, I'm not a huge Donald Trump fan.
Okay, Trump did some really good things for the economy and for US nationalism, but he ran on an agenda of draining the swamp.
He had four years to drain the swamp and he didn't even scratch the surface of draining the swamp.
And now the swamp is attacking him like never before.
That's right.
So if he does win the presidency, He's got one more shot to drain the swamp, and I have a feeling if he doesn't get it done in the first three or four months that they're going to JFK Donald Trump.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right about that.
But I have to add, you know, on the Republican side, it's only Trump at this point.
Nobody's even close to Trump.
Trump is the candidate.
He's leading enormously in the polls.
Yeah.
And then on the Democrat side, even the Democrats are getting tired of senile Joe Biden, and there's no viable alternative.
I mean, what are they going to do, run Newsom from California and then say, we want the whole country to look like San Francisco?
I mean, come on.
Yeah, that would be a bad deal for this country.
Here's the problem from a logistics standpoint.
You know, you've heard, oh, who was the general that worked with Patton?
In World War II, he used to say amateur study tactics and professional study logistics.
The first time I ever heard that quote was when Major General Hollingsworth corrected me at dinner in the Republican National Committee basement in D.C. He used to have a restaurant down there.
We used to meet with senators and chat about world affairs.
And the problem is the logistics of our elections.
Right now, elections are run by states.
We have six swing states that will basically decide who wins a federal election.
Pennsylvania, Georgia, Ohio, Michigan, Arizona, New Mexico.
These are your swing states.
Some people call them purple states.
But they're going to decide who's elected president.
And the biggest problem is the swing states were attacked by the Democrats years ago to change the state laws to allow election corruption to continue ad nauseum.
And the Republicans in those states have done nothing to fix this corruption.
And look at what's going on in Arizona.
Even the Republicans are corrupt in Arizona from an election standpoint.
And so I find it difficult to believe that a Republican could ever win a national election until these swing states address the corruption in those six states.
Well, what if the plan is to allow Trump to win on purpose?
I mean, I'm just brainstorming, but perhaps they want Trump in office in anticipation of some bigger catastrophe that would strike America and could be laid at his feet.
For example, you know, a banking system collapse or a debt reset or World War III breaking out, nuclear exchange, for example.
Is that a possible scenario or am I thinking too far outside the box?
For me, that's a little outside the box.
And here's why.
Because there's two things that drive evil.
Power and control and money.
And if Trump gets elected, trillions of dollars will come out of this guy's pocket and go into that guy's pocket.
And I don't think the power moguls that call the shots want that money moving around like that.
I think they want it where it's going right now.
They want to go into Ukraine where they can launder it.
So I think from a logistics, from a financial standpoint, I think that would cost them too much.
To try to get Trump in.
But wouldn't Trump continue to support...
I mean, he provided huge funding for the Pentagon.
Trump is a friend of the military-industrial complex, you could say.
Yes, sir.
I don't know why...
I mean, Trump would not defund the Pentagon, nor the war in Ukraine, nor he wouldn't defund Israel either.
So isn't Trump essentially supporting the same money-skimming and laundering infrastructure?
You know, to some degree, but I don't quite agree that Trump would continue in Ukraine.
I think Trump would get us out of Ukraine very quickly.
I think he would support Israel in a bigger way.
And I think he would protect Taiwan and prevent us from getting into a conflict in Taiwan.
Now, Trump is no bastion of the Bill of Rights.
He's no defender of liberty.
I don't know if you remember the comment, well, can't we just take the guns and do due process later?
Yeah.
And he also supported the bump stock ban.
Exactly.
And so did the NRA, right?
And so, you know, which stands for not really American.
Because the NRA has supported just about every gun control major bill that's been put in front of the American people since 1968.
And so, you know, if you want to support gun rights, you want to support the Bill of Rights, you know, Gun Owners of America and other groups that are actually fighting for your rights are a much better option than the NRA, which is fundamentally run by retired FBI agents.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, no, I'm more of a fan of Gun Owners of America personally.
Yes, indeed.
Yeah.
So let's talk about now medical supplies because you mentioned to me earlier that your organization does a lot of training of first aid and combat medic type training.
Yes.
What did you notice with medical supplies?
Well, we do these stop bleeding classes on a regular basis.
We do combat medic course where we teach advanced combat medic skills.
And I can tell you this.
After a class, I typically call four major medical companies to reorder supplies.
And when I call these companies, I'm friends with the CEOs of these companies, and I ask them, you know, so what's going on?
What's new?
What's happening in your world?
They typically say to me, you know, ah, things are good.
You know, we're a little short on this surgical item, but everything else is starting to flow again after all the COVID debacle.
Well, the last time, this was in November, I called after the Combat MediCorps.
They were like, Sam, you're not going to believe what's going on.
We've sent Four times the bleeding, hemorrhage, tourniquet, extat supplies to Israel than we've sent to Ukraine.
The media is not telling anyone the truth about how many people Hamas has slaughtered, how many women and children.
It's absolutely horrific, and the media is not telling anyone the truth.
Wait, are you saying that the number of Israelis killed on October 7th is much larger than the 1,200 that is now the number being claimed by Israel?
Yeah, not only is that number larger, but the number of people being killed in battle fighting Hamas is much larger.
So IDF soldiers?
Yes, exactly.
IDF soldiers and also women and children collateral damage in the conflict as well.
So it wasn't just that day, but the ongoing fighting.
And we're not getting the truth about this.
And my SEAL team buddies that are over there working are not only confirming what the medical people are telling me about the number of deaths, they're also telling me that they're pulling American weapons That were left in Afghanistan off of dead Hamas fighters.
I'm not surprised at all.
That is the most heinous, disgusting thing to me.
And Milley, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and Biden, they own the deaths of those Israeli women and children.
They own those deaths.
Every single Israeli killed by an American weapon that came out of Afghanistan, there's culpability for Milley and Biden.
I mean, this is impeachable.
It's an impeachable kind of treason.
Oh, absolutely.
These are the reasons we should hang people.
I'm sure you and I are both disgusted by the pullout from Afghanistan and the quantity and quality of weapons that were left behind.
I mean, vehicles, obviously, night vision, advanced...
Machine guns, aircraft.
Even helicopters.
Communications equipment, which is absolutely critical to coordinating battle.
I mean, these guys not only...
Are going to cause the death of Americans, but they've caused the death of thousands of Israelis with their incompetence and with their crooked behavior.
So there's so many questions from this, but I don't understand how come Israel doesn't have its own store of medical supplies and readiness.
I mean, I suppose one of the things that's come out of this is that the IDF isn't nearly as combat ready as perhaps we assume they were.
I mean, how could it be they don't have stockpiles of medical supplies?
Well, you know, there's a couple of reasons for that, and most of them are logistical reasons.
The Israelis have a number of their own internal medical companies, but the technology that some of our local American companies have developed, like the TX-2 and 3 tourniquets and the X-Stat-12 and the X-Stat-30, these huge syringes you can stick in a bullet hole and collapse the syringe and fill it with gold.
Sponges that expand that have coagulating material.
They're so much faster at stopping bleeding than combat gauze.
I don't know if you've ever seen a medic pack combat gauze into a bullet hole, but it takes a few seconds.
These extract syringes, it's like sticking the hole, hit the plunger, and the bleeding is Just about stop, because the sponges go to the source of the bleed.
They can go deeper in holes.
It takes a long time to pack a bullet hole with convex hull.
Well, I've done some of that training myself, not on obviously live people, but you know how the training goes.
It's a mannequin with a bullet hole.
And yeah, I mean, it's crazy.
It can take a long time stuffing, and there's a lot of gauze that goes into those wounds.
I mean, more than you would think.
And if you don't have the right gauze with the blood stop properties, then you're not effective at it.
So this syringe that you're talking about sounds really ideal.
It really is.
And I think probably by the mid-2024, every SF medic, every 18 Delta, every SARC, everybody that's serious about the medical business in our military is going to have extat syringes in their IFACs, in their gear, or in their kit.
And they should, because it's one of the best new tools out there, particularly in battle when you're dealing with bullet wounds in junction bleed areas or in the torso.
That's amazing.
Is the blood stop materials in the compressed sponges, as you say?
Yeah, it's impregnated in the sponge itself, and there's multiple sponges in these syringes.
And so you can force those sponges that are very compressed deep into a hole right to the source of the bleeding.
Wow.
And then that sponge expands with the coagulating material right there on the surface.
It's very, very effective.
Right.
So the coagulation material is activated by the blood itself.
Yeah.
Yes, sir.
Which then forms, I guess, an internal barrier.
I mean, to get you to the emergency room to where surgery can work on you.
And if you can't find an Extat syringe for sale, there's a company called Cellox that also makes a similar product.
So you have some options as far as what to put in your gear, put in your kit, but we require our instructors at the Freedom Center to have Extat syringes, to have combat gauze, to have two SAM splints, to have three tourniquets on them, you know, and it's There's just no reason not to have this stuff.
It's not very expensive, and it absolutely will save a life.
It was really an interesting thing.
I had a buddy of mine, two buddies of mine.
I said, you guys got to get in this combat course at the end of the year.
And they're like, really?
And I'm like, yeah, you really do.
Don't miss it.
And they were kind of mad.
Oh, we got to rearrange our schedule.
And of course, one of these guys works for the other guy.
Well, the one guy saw on a huge exhaust system off a truck that's lifted in the air.
And he's doing it with a torch, actually.
He's cutting it off.
And this huge heavy pipe drops on his forearm.
This is five days after they've been through the class.
And this huge pipe drops on his forearm, burns through his muscles, severs the largest artery in his forearm.
He throws a three-foot diameter of blood on the shop floor.
Clamps down on it because he now had training on how to stop bleeding with pressure, how to slow it down.
He jogs into the office.
He says, hey, Tim, I need you to grab a tourniquet out of my truck and put it on my arm.
And so here's Tim, who's just been trained on how to apply a tourniquet, saving his life.
It was the coolest thing ever.
And these were the two guys that were arguing with me on whether they needed this type of thing.
Right, right.
Well, see, that's fascinating because I know that in your course you also teach people to apply the tourniquets one-handed, but in that case, he needed to apply pressure to his own arm with his free hand, so he needed another buddy to apply the tourniquet.
If he had ran to his truck to get his tourniquet and not put pressure on his arm, he would have bled out.
Yep, yep.
This is something that a lot of people don't realize is how fragile your system, your body is.
If you have a leak of your blood, you lose blood pressure so quickly and then, of course, you lose consciousness and it's game over.
But are you okay?
No, we're just fine.
Okay, just checking with you there.
Alright, so let's go back to Israel and Hamas for just a second here.
So the...
This war is producing a lot of casualties.
I don't trust information on either side of this war.
I don't trust Israel's government any more than I trust the US government.
But we also know that Hamas did kill women and children in that October 7th raid as well.
What do you make of the possible outcomes here?
Because this is not your standard Battle, if there is such a thing.
But this is not Russia versus Ukraine.
This is a whole different quagmire situation.
How do you think this is going to end up, in your view?
I think our special forces are going to work with the Mossad and some Israeli SF guys.
And I think they're going to hunt down a whole bunch of Hamas leaders and end them.
And it won't stop the fighting.
But it will cause a lull and a truce.
And as has been going on in the Middle East for thousands of years, there will continue to be conflicts flare up and then truce is declared and this will go on.
I don't think that we're going to get sucked into World War III in Israel.
I do think that China has some very deliberate plans to get us involved in wars on four fronts.
Four?
Yes.
So Taiwan being one, what are the other three?
Taiwan, Israel, Ukraine, and Africa.
Oh, okay.
They'll try and put us in different places and spread us out.
And I think we have to be very wise not to get sucked into wars on multiple fronts.
And because of the phrase amateur study tactics and professional study logistics, it's a very important thing to understand that we cannot, under any circumstances, logistically spread ourselves too thin.
So let me ask you your opinion on that.
You're a business owner.
You understand supply chains.
What we've run into with the Ukraine situation is that both Western Europe as well as the United States do not have the munitions manufacturing capacity that perhaps even military leaders thought we had.
How severe is that problem in your view and can that be rectified?
Well, it's very severe if we get involved in multiple conflicts.
A lot of people don't know this, but We have Lake City here in Missouri.
That's where the majority of American-made ammunition is manufactured.
The Chinese have 10 factories underground, hardened concrete, 500 feet underground.
They have 10 ammunition manufacturing companies Three times the size of Lake City.
Wow.
And they're in hardened underground structures, not vulnerable like, you know, Lake City's buildings 1 through 52, right?
So when you look at logistically what would happen to us, what China has learned is basically what we did to Russia.
We had Russia in conflicts.
We were fighting them in Afghanistan and Vietnam.
You know, all of these things draining them of their financial resources by getting Russia involved in multiple conflicts around the world and fighting these covert wars against them.
And what China learned was that was very effective in breaking down the logistical capability of the Soviet Union.
China is trying to do exactly the same thing that we did to Russia.
They're trying to do that to the United States right now.
Well, then how do we stay out of the Middle East when, for example, recently you have the Yemeni Houthi rebels launching missiles at cargo vessels sailing through the Red Sea?
You know, the U.S. Navy is there intercepting drones and so on.
But it seems like there are many provocations taking place that could very easily sweep the U.S. into a larger escalation if we're not careful.
And I got to say, I don't know your opinion, but I think our State Department officials are idiots.
When it comes to war, they don't know what they're doing.
The Biden administration is incompetent.
How do we stay out of these wars?
Well, I don't know if you heard your mother or teacher say when you were little, violence doesn't solve anything.
And if you're talking about your sister or your brother or your neighbor, that's probably wise advice.
But on the world stage, the only way I've ever seen a problem permanently solved is with violence.
Kill the enemy.
Kill their leaders.
Kill anybody who wants to step in their place.
Get the job done and go on and live peacefully.
The problem with the United States, as you said, is the children are now in power.
So the adults need to take control.
We need to kick the children out.
Tell them to go home.
Play with their dolls or sniff some little girl's hair.
And we need to put adults in charge that are willing not to wage political wars but are willing to wage wars that win.
And the way that you win is you kill the enemy.
You end them and you end whoever wants to take their place and then you get to live in peace.
If you don't have the spine to do that, wars go on forever.
Well, let me push back a little bit with this question, although I respect your answer, but if you take the concept of Hamas, for example, it seems like the more aggressive Israel is against Hamas, the more other groups are enraged, like Hezbollah, and of course the Persians are enraged, all the Arab nations, Turkey, mostly a Muslim nation, Turkey, getting very outraged, the citizens, even in Egypt or Jordan and so on.
How do you kill Hamas, let's say, Although I agree with you, that's possible to kill every last Hamas person in Gaza because it's surrounded.
But even if you do that, don't you just sort of activate another version of Hamas in all the surrounding Arab nations?
How do you deal with that?
Well, I acknowledge your point that there's a lot of evil in the world.
Okay?
And if you read the book of Revelation, it talks about If God doesn't intervene, no one would survive.
Okay?
So, if you're a Christian, you believe Christ is going to return and fix the sin problem on planet Earth, if you read the last book, you realize that a lot of evil has to go away.
And in Revelation, it talks about there'll be no more sea.
Well, they don't mean the ocean.
They mean evil.
Sea is a metaphor for evil in the Hebrew culture.
And especially the ancient Hebrew.
The sea was a very dark, scary place with monsters.
And when you read in Revelation that there'll be no more sea, they don't mean that the oceans are going away.
They mean that evil is going away.
And so there's a lot of evil that needs to be destroyed, right?
And if you do a half-baked job and you just kill the evil leaders of Hamas, Then the leaders of Hezbollah move in and take over their territory.
The next most ruthless guy steps up.
Same thing with drug dealers.
It's a great example.
There's probably 10 or 12 cartels operating in Central and South America.
If you kill one cartel, the leaders of one cartel, the equivalent of Hamas, You don't solve any problem at all because the most ruthless cartel leader that's left takes over their territory.
Right.
But you can't kill all the cartels because there's always demand for drugs, weapons, and human trafficking.
I mean, right?
As long as there's money in the system.
No, you can kill all the cartel leaders.
But more people will just come in and take their place, won't they?
Sure, but people are always going to try and step up and take someone's market share.
But...
When you kill enough leaders and enough of their subordinates, the skill of how to do things dies with them.
The shipping channels, the logistical capability, all these things.
So you don't just go in and kill the leaders.
You destroy their logistical capabilities while you do it.
And trust me, SEAL Team 6 and 5 could do this if we ever had a president with enough spine to order it.
The problem is presidents are afraid of the cartels.
So they don't order the destruction of the cartels, which is why we had 100,000 Americans die from fentanyl last year.
So at what point do we put men in charge that go and get our enemies?
And I'm more of a libertarian, so I'm not into throwing people in jail for growing a marijuana plant.
But if you synthesize poison and you bring it into our country and you kill our children, I'm happy to take you out and put you in the garbage can.
Well, it's interesting that Trump, I think, one of his campaign promises is that if elected, he would use the military.
I think he hinted at this.
I may be wrong.
I know Lindsey Graham supports this, but using the military to attack the drug cartels in Mexico, which, I mean, sounds like you might be in favor of that.
I think that would be a quagmire, personally, like a Vietnam in Mexico.
I'm very concerned about that.
But what are your thoughts about something like that?
Well, the drug cartels are the enemy.
They're the enemy.
And it's not our job to die for our country.
It's our job to make the drug cartel people die for their cause, their greed and their power.
We have cartels that run American cities on our borders right now.
They run them.
They do.
They absolutely do have control of American cities.
And if you know people that live down there and that have to deal with this garbage on a daily basis, you'd be ready to go after the cartel members right now.
And it's gotten to the point where the cartels have gotten too greedy and they're killing too many innocent people.
My best friend's son died of a heroin overdose.
He was a scholarship football player at a D1 school and died as a freshman.
Why?
Because someone laced his heroin with fentanyl.
And because he couldn't stay away from drugs.
He got hooked on it.
You can cut the supply line down and you'll actually reduce the demand fairly quickly.
I'm all about logistics.
Kill the cartel members, destroy their logistical capability, and then there's no heroin and fentanyl for kids to OD on.
Maybe they'll smoke some weed and live.
I'm okay with that.
All right, well, Sam, we're out of time here for today.
Let me give out your website again and ask you just kind of final wrap-up thoughts here, but Freedom Center USA, you're the founder.
It's in Central Missouri.
FreedomTrain.net is the website.
Firearms training, combat medic training, and also you have a Tier 1 weapons manufacturing company.
Anything else you want to add before we wrap this up today?
Yeah, the Freedom Center exists.
To transfer knowledge and skill to preserve freedom in the United States.
That's what we do.
And Tier 1 Weapon Systems makes the finest long-range weapon systems and the finest technology in close quarters or CQB battle rifles.
And we do some custom pistols as well.
So my number is 417-718-2597.
If you're interested in any of that technology or interested in some training, Just give me a call on a Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday, and we'll give you some information and get you started.
And Mike, thank you for having me.
I appreciate it.
Absolutely.
It's been a pleasure speaking with you about this.
And one final question.
Do you manufacture semi-auto 300 Win Mag rifles for long-range shooting?
We do.
In fact, I did a design for SI Defense on the first day.
300 Win Mag semi-auto AR-10, and one of the sons took the design to another company, which I won't name here, but I think if you look around, you'll see their name on the weapon.
But yeah, that is capable.
We actually like, we prefer the 6.5 WSM running a 135 A tip over the 300 Win Mag semi-auto.
It's good to 1,500 meters, and it's Very, very effective.
Less recoil recovery time and less abusive to the shooter and better wind deflection than the 300 wind mag.
We make a 6.5 WSM. Anybody that's interested in a 301 mag will probably look at that 6.5 WSM before they decide what they really want.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I will do that.
I'll probably be in touch with you after this, but I own one of the Nemo Arms semi-auto 300 Win Mags, and I've been real happy with the action on that, and it's been reliable, but it's not as accurate as a bolt action, of course.
Well, semi-autos can be very, very accurate if they're made properly.
That's a good design, but there's a couple of things they don't do.
That if we get to re-barreling your Nemo arms, which we can do easily, we can fix some of the accuracy problems.
You'll probably have accuracy twice as good as what you've got now.
Wow.
Okay.
Outstanding.
Well, I'll be in touch after the show.
And thank you so much for spending time with us today.
It's been really fascinating.
And, you know, God bless you and God bless America.
Thank you for all that you do.
Mike, thank you for your time.
Have a great week.
Okay, you too.
Take care.
All right, everybody.
Thank you for watching.
Fascinating interview there with the founder of Freedom Center USA, Sam Andrews.
Again, check out his website, freedomtrain.net.
And if you're into super high-end weapon systems, maybe you're watching as part of a SWAT or a military operator or special forces, you can talk to his company about custom weapons for both long-range and CQB engagements as well.
So thank you for watching today.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.com, the free speech platform where you notice this is an uncensored interview.
Thank you for watching today.
God bless you all.
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