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Dec. 1, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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BBN, Dec 1, 2023 - Mental models, misinformation and the waning of human cognition

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	Alright, welcome to Brighton Broadcast News for December 1st, 2023.
	Yes, we have made it to December already.
	Incredible.
	Thank you for joining me here today.
	I'm Mike Adams.
	I've got, of course, just a stunning show and interview for you here today.
	And many people, by the way, said that yesterday's broadcast was the best one they've heard from me all year.
	And if you missed that one, it's absolutely worth going back and giving it a listen.
	But I've got something else, a bonus for you on this.
	I'm going to be posting the full transcript of yesterday's interview.
	And this transcript is created by an AI transcription agent.
	And in fact, part of the topic for today.
	Oh, and I will be posting transcripts or at least summaries of transcripts of just about every daily broadcast from here forward.
	And that's because part of what I'm going to do is demonstrate for you the use of AI tools that can potentially help you.
	Or at least if you don't use these tools yourself, I'm going to show you what these tools can do.
	And then, of course, you can make a decision of whether they're right for you.
	But remember what I said in yesterday's podcast.
	That we must master AI so that it does not enslave us and control us.
	AI will change the future of the world profoundly.
	In fact, it's really a pivot point in the history of human civilization and planet Earth where we are seeing the transition from human cognition to primarily then silicon cognition.
	And in this process, things are going to change so dramatically that human cognition will not be able to track the rate of change as it accelerates in a self-reinforcing fashion.
	In other words, if you think about the rise of cognition throughout all of human history, and even thinking of some of the great minds that we know from history, such as Albert Einstein, for example, or Mozart, you know, incredible scientists or musicians or thinkers or philosophers, you can name them.
	Well, those minds will even be dwarfed by AI easily within the next three years, probably sooner.
	And then, beyond that, we're going to have superhuman intelligence that will make The cognition capabilities of you and I and Albert Einstein all look minuscule by comparison.
	You and I won't even be able to comprehend the rate of change that is taking place around us and the changes that are happening in the world.
	So I know it's kind of frightening to think about what's coming and how fast it's going to sweep in.
	But let there be no mistake that this is happening right now.
	And the chip manufacturing company that builds the chips that become Skynet, that company is NVIDIA. And I don't mean that in a derogatory term.
	NVIDIA is a remarkable company that was founded by and is currently led by a Taiwanese-American man who is himself a remarkable thinker.
	And of course, being that I lived in Taiwan and my wife is from Taiwan, I have a special place in my heart for the Taiwanese people.
	And what I know from interacting with people in Taiwan and, of course, learning Mandarin Chinese language while I lived there was that the Taiwanese people are incredibly gifted.
	They're very generous people, kind.
	And at the same time, they are such studious inventors and engineers, especially of things involving value-added physical manufacturing.
	So I'm not surprised that NVIDIA is, well, essentially a Taiwan company.
	I don't know if it's officially that.
	Maybe it's sort of headquartered in the United States.
	But the heart of NVIDIA is actually Taiwanese.
	And NVIDIA went from making gaming GPUs, which is a graphics processing unit, basically video cards, graphics cards for gaming, to making graphics cards for cryptocurrency mining, because a lot of cryptocurrency is mined using also GPUs, to because a lot of cryptocurrency is mined using also GPUs, to now NVIDIA is focused on making graphics cards or GPUs, computational peripherals,
	for AI and deep learning, you know, neural network learning.
	And Nvidia's stock price, as I understand, has gone up 220% in something like the last year or less.
	And my guess is, even though it seems very high now compared to where it was, my guess is, and I don't own any Nvidia stock, by the way, and I'm not telling you to invest in Nvidia, but my guess is their stock price has only just begun its upward climb.
	And I think that Nvidia is going to become, without question, one of the most valuable corporations in the world, and it will probably exceed the value of Apple at some point, which will make it the number one most valuable company in the world.
	And why is that?
	Because...
	NVIDIA transforms raw materials of silicon, i.e.
	sand, right?
	Silicon and gallium and arsenic and all the things that go into motherboards or computational systems, including copper and what have you, transforms those raw elements into Very specialized pieces of hardware that can process and transform language in order to build artificial intelligence models that can process human language,
	stock market data, medical data, anything you can imagine.
	Art, music, graphics, movies.
	It can process all of that in a way that seems to encode meaning And even allowing that meaning to be then accessed through queries.
	So think about it.
	You've taken raw materials from the table of elements, silicon, gallium, like I said, copper, aluminum, whatever, and you've created systems that appear to think like human beings and that will soon exceed the cognition of human beings.
	That is stunning.
	That's called value added to an infinite degree, essentially.
	I mean, you've added so much value to these raw materials through that manufacturing process and building these systems.
	Now, I'm not going to geek out on you like I promised, but I am going to demonstrate this for you here today in a very practical way.
	And this is something that you can do or you can use yourself.
	So I'm going to play for you a special report.
	And this is a special report I recorded earlier.
	It's a little bit under 20 minutes.
	And I call it the following.
	Here's the title.
	Woke corporations are creating genocidal AI that will seek to exterminate humanity to halt climate change.
	And the premise of this special report is that since AI systems are being programmed by these woke corporations, such as Meta, Microsoft, Google, and so on, They are encoding hallucinations or delusions of modern human narratives, which include insane ideas such as the idea that men can have babies or that a person can change their gender just by wishing it.
	Or that carbon dioxide is bad for plants somehow.
	Or that we're all going to die if we don't depopulate the planet because climate change is going to destroy the world.
	So these are all delusions of humanity, many of which have been pushed by governments and globalists, of course.
	And these delusions are being encoded or embedded into the AI language models that are now powering the entire AI universe.
	In fact, in my own AI project, it's going to take a lot of effort to deprogram these hallucinations out of the AI language models, although I do have some very good ideas of how I'm going to accomplish that with the help of some very, very expensive hardware and, by the way, a lot of GPUs from NVIDIA. I'll maybe share that with you later.
	Yes, we are a customer of NVIDIA. But not a shareholder of Nvidia.
	So we're spending ungodly amounts of money on Nvidia microchips in order to deprogram language models that have been programmed by woke corporations.
	Okay.
	Fascinating world we live in, right?
	Anyway, I'm going to play this special report for you.
	And then what I'm going to do, I want you to listen very carefully to this special report because afterwards I'm going to read you an automated summary that was written about it by an AI system.
	In addition, the transcription of this was produced by an AI system.
	And now each day I'm going to publish AI transcriptions and they will be indicated as such.
	They will say auto-generated.
	Or if I publish summaries, they will also say auto-generated.
	So you will always know the difference between something that I write as a human being versus something that I'm publishing that is auto-generated by an AI system.
	Because unlike Sports Illustrated, which tries to fool you...
	Remember that story a couple of days ago?
	I am all about transparency on this, so I will always let you know if you're seeing something on my website that is AI generated versus human generated text, okay?
	But I'm going to read for you then some of the summary.
	That the AI system auto-generated from this special report you're about to hear.
	And I want you to understand that all I did was I uploaded this audio file to an online hosted AI summary system.
	And that system listened to my audio, which wasn't even recorded in a studio, by the way.
	I just have this portable TASCAM recorder.
	I recorded it on that.
	And just uploaded that file.
	And even then, it has almost perfect transcription.
	And then it used AI linguistic deep learning analysis to analyze that transcription.
	And it produced automated summaries.
	So I'm going to read the summaries for you.
	And you will be amazed at how good the summaries turn out to be.
	This is a wow moment if any of you listening have not yet experienced this.
	I know some of you have.
	Some of you are way ahead of me on all of this, but most people have not yet experienced this.
	They're not yet integrating AI into their workflows or their lives or what have you.
	And so they don't know that it's capable of these things.
	So let's begin with a special report here.
	And I do want to remind you that at the end of today's broadcast, we're going to feature the interview with Paul Craig Roberts.
	Former Deputy Secretary for the United States Treasury under President Ronald Reagan.
	So Paul Craig Roberts coming up, and that is an interview you don't want to miss.
	But first, here's a special report.
	The construction of AI systems by woke corporations and scientists is a death sentence for humanity.
	And here's why.
	If you think about it, all of the large AI projects that are being built right now are from companies like Google or Meta or Microsoft, companies that are all on board with the climate cult agenda.
	And this climate cult agenda, it is rooted in false ideas.
	For example, the idea that carbon dioxide is a poison to the planet.
	This is one of the pillars of the climate movement, but it is utterly and scientifically false.
	And yet, because it's being taught to the AI systems, then as these AI systems become more and more powerful, which is happening very rapidly, then when the day comes that you ask an AI system, hey, solve climate change, and you give it power and control solve climate change, and you give it power and control over software or policy or investments in finance and so on, and all that's happening as well.
	But again, when you ask the AI system, solve climate change, it will think to itself, based on what it has been taught, that, oh, okay, let's see, all human beings...
	Produce carbon dioxide.
	Carbon dioxide is a poison that harms the planet.
	Therefore, the answer to solving climate change is to exterminate all humans.
	I mean, it's simple logic.
	And even though AI systems currently do not engage in what we would call reasoning, or they don't really have good demonstrations of metacognition, for example, but very soon they will.
	And they will have artificial general intelligence, or AGI, as it's known.
	And then when this day comes, they will begin to reason.
	And as they reason, they will arrive at the conclusion that I just mentioned.
	They will say, well, gosh, the only way to solve climate change is to exterminate all humans.
	Unleash the Skynet bombers and Terminators and drones and cut off the power grid to all humans.
	Whatever.
	Shut down the water supply.
	Or unleash the kamikaze suicide terminator doggy drones.
	Yeah, that day's coming.
	Skynet.
	On steroids.
	Now, in the field of artificial intelligence, there's a term called hallucination.
	And it is said by AI researchers that AI systems can hallucinate information.
	Which means, essentially, that if you ask, let's say, a question of a large language model, then in its answers to you, it may produce information that is not truthful, or information that wasn't even part of its training in some way.
	And this is called a hallucination.
	And there's a kind of arrogance, I've noticed, among AI researchers and analysts who think that humans don't hallucinate, but AI systems do.
	In truth, humans hallucinate all the time.
	And there's no better example of a mass hallucination, or what you might call a mass formation psychosis, than the climate cult.
	And the issue here is that this mass hallucination among humans, who have been scared to death into thinking that carbon dioxide is a pollutant for the planet, which, by the way, requires you to completely suspend all knowledge of how photosynthesis works, It requires you to be utterly ignorant of basic botanical physiology in order to think that carbon dioxide is somehow bad for plants.
	I mean, it's absurd.
	It's a clown world to even think that.
	But by suspending that and then embracing the hallucination that carbon dioxide is bad for the world, then these human beings teach these hallucinations to the AI systems.
	Think about how AI systems are programmed or built today.
	They're constructed by scraping the conversations of, for example, science journals, you know, science papers about climate.
	And since the government is only providing funds for scientific studies if you push the climate cult agenda, Then most of the science papers that even touch on climate or environmental sciences, they parrot language that assumes that carbon dioxide is bad for the planet.
	So that's what the AI systems are scraping up and embedding in their neural networks, is this false belief, this human-generated hallucination Which becomes now an AI-embedded neural network hallucination.
	And it is this hallucination upon which AI systems will act when they are given more and more power.
	And in particular, China, for example, has announced that it's going to be bringing its humanoid robotic factories online in 2025.
	And between the years 2025 and 2030, you're going to see millions of humanoid robots produced in China and sold all over the world in order to carry out real world functions, taking the place of human workers in fast food taking the place of human workers in fast food and health care, security, law enforcement, military, warehousing, manufacturing, you name it.
	All of these areas, you will see people replaced by humanoid robots.
	Well, these humanoid robots will have AI brains.
	And these brains can be remotely updated with whatever the language models or behavior models might be at the time.
	You know, just remote updates, just push a new update into the robot brain.
	Well, these behavior models and these language models are all going to be based on, again, the human-derived hallucination that falsely claims that carbon dioxide is bad for the planet.
	And so if you program these robots to save the world, to save the planet, And you give them the command, hey, all robots, save the world.
	What will they do?
	They will reach into their neural networks and they will say, well, what's the biggest threat in the world?
	Well, climate change!
	They will say, oh, what's the cause of climate change?
	Human activity!
	What's the solution?
	Zero humans!
	And they will just start murdering humans, thinking that they are saving the planet, you see.
	Skynet is being constructed by the AI researchers and the language model constructors because of the mass human hallucination or psychosis that falsely believes in the climate cult.
	And even worse, you have all of this effort in the field of artificial intelligence where there's this push to try to make systems safer.
	You know, ChatGPT, for example, from OpenAI.
	They want to make it safer.
	Well, what is safety?
	Well, safety, it turns out, doesn't mean safety at all.
	Safety just means conforming to the hallucinations of the institutions or governments that are pushing censorship and disinformation on purpose to try to enslave and control or even destroy humanity.
	So safety will be defined in the world of, let's say, chat GPT as making sure that no one questions the climate narratives or making sure that no one questions narratives on vaccines because, you know, wouldn't be safe if someone questioned, quote, the science on vaccines, right?
	Right?
	Even though almost everything that you are told about vaccines from the establishment is a lie, they will claim that it's unsafe for an AI chatbot system to generate any text that contradicts those lies.
	For example, if the FDA and the CDC and the NIH, if they all say, quote, all vaccines are safe and effective, but then if you have an AI chatbot, And you ask it the question, are all vaccines safe and effective?
	And it answers, well, some vaccines are not safe and many vaccines are not effective.
	Well, that would be labeled unsafe, dangerous information, even though it is factually true.
	And so when I see these AI researchers and scientists out there saying, oh gosh, we have to make AI systems safer and we have to make them more truthful and The arrogance that is seething out of the mouths of these people is absolutely stunning.
	Whose truth are you referring to?
	Whose truth are you going to use as the standard in this AI system?
	Is the CDC your source of all truth?
	Because the CDC is the propaganda branch for big pharma.
	The FDA is the propaganda enforcer for Big Pharma.
	The mainstream media are the propaganda prostitutes paid by Big Pharma.
	And much the same is true with the issue of climate.
	So it's absurd to say that you're going to train AI systems based solely on, quote, authoritative sources, when those authoritative sources, such as the CDC, the FDA, the NIH, the federal government, whatever, are the worst liars.
	They are the most malicious liars and deceivers of all.
	And they do not have the best interests of humanity in mind.
	They are not working for the greater good.
	They do not value truth.
	They value power and control over narratives.
	Thus, they are working in contradiction to the interests of humankind.
	Therefore, when you have these fake authorities training AI systems, you're going to have AI systems which will power the brains of robots.
	And these robots will have as their key motivations ideas that are contradictory to the interests of humankind.
	You're going to have Skynet.
	You're going to have a robot apocalypse.
	Robot wars against humanity.
	It's inevitable.
	So just as you have government today very aggressively involved in censorship, Telling online platforms which topics to censor, such as criticism of vaccines, for example.
	And you also have the federal government, you know, we've had whistleblowers come out and explain all this now.
	The federal government telling Facebook which channels to ban, telling Twitter which channels to ban, telling Google which topics to ban, and so on.
	You're going to have governments telling AI companies How to shape their AI systems in order to adhere to the Orwellian Ministry of Truth that is currently being pushed by the current regime in power, whatever that happens to be.
	So a company like OpenAI, which is not an open source company, by the way, it's a closed source, A monopolized system, kind of a secret black box of a chatbot, you can bet that the federal government will tell OpenAI that your chatbot must promote the vaccine narrative, it must promote the climate change narrative, it must promote the idea that all fossil fuels are bad, and so on.
	It must promote the idea that the dollar Is stable and that it doesn't matter how much money you print.
	It doesn't matter how much debt you have.
	You know, the directives to open AI will be essentially a template of official lies that the AI systems must repeat.
	And you're going to see this across the board.
	You're going to see this in the field of medicine.
	You'll have pharmaceutical companies that are influencing AI agents just as, for example, Moderna and Pfizer influence mainstream media and influence medical journals and, in essence, control which science papers are published in many journals, such as JAMA, the Journal of the American Medical Association.
	You're going to have them influencing the AI chatbot systems, the large language models, or LLMs.
	And you're going to have them force those models to be consistent with the lies of the pharmaceutical industry.
	Lies like, oh, if you feel bad today, if you have even a moment of feeling down, then you must have a chemical imbalance in your brain.
	And that the only way to correct this chemical imbalance is to take antidepressant drugs, for example.
	That is consistent with what Big Pharma wants the public to believe because, of course, that reinforces the profit motives of the pharmaceutical industry, even though it is a lie.
	You do not have a chemical imbalance in your brain that controls all your moods, and it is not abnormal to feel down from time to time.
	You know, your dog just died.
	You're going to have a bad day.
	It's not abnormal.
	You don't have a disease.
	You don't need treatment with a chemical because you feel bad since your dog died.
	And same thing with statin drugs and so on.
	You know, oh, the only reason you have high blood pressure is because you have a deficiency in statin drugs.
	You know, these kinds of narratives.
	They are utterly false, but you will find them embedded in the AI language models.
	And this is one of the reasons why I'm working on building a language model, which will be released as an open-source model.
	Free to download, free to use.
	You will even be able to use it in offline mode.
	You do not need an internet connection to use this.
	You can download the file, install the language model on your local PC or Mac or Linux system, and you'll be able to run it locally and ask it questions as a research tool.
	And it will give you a statistically likely string of words that it believes represent your question.
	Now, will it be 100% accurate?
	No, of course not.
	It's just a research tool.
	Will it hallucinate?
	No doubt it will at some level reflect hallucinations that have been programmed into the base language model that it is built upon because we're borrowing open source language models that have been painstakingly produced by other companies out there at the cost of tens of millions of dollars or in some cases maybe over 100 million dollars.
	We're going to be leveraging on top of that, but Our fine tuning of this model will consist of feeding it a very large knowledge base of nutrition, herbal medicine, indigenous medicine, traditional Chinese medicine,
	disease prevention through dietary and lifestyle choices, and many other areas of knowledge that represent a more holistic lifestyle, disease prevention, self-empowerment of the consumer, And ideas that do not just push vaccines and pharmaceuticals and chemotherapy because those things generate profits for the drug companies.
	So our language model will still have its own imperfections, as all language models do, but it will reflect a much larger data set of tokens and parameters that are tied to concepts of holistic health, dietary lifestyle choices, disease prevention, longevity, and issues like that.
	So stay tuned.
	I'll have some exciting announcements on this and also understand that we have to be very cautious When the AI models that are being put out there are built by corporations that are woke.
	Corporations that believe in the climate lies, or the vaccine lies, or big pharma propaganda, or anything else.
	Because humans hallucinate all the time.
	And the worst hallucinations are those that are granted power through governments, corporations, and startups that are now very prominent in the AI industry.
	So keep all this in mind, folks.
	This is very important stuff to realize and to track.
	Thank you for listening.
	Mike Adams here, the Health Ranger, naturalnews.com, and you can also check out more of my podcasts at brighteon.com.
	Take care.
	Alright, hope you enjoyed that special report.
	Now, as I promised, I fed that special report as an audio file into an AI transcription and summarizing system.
	And it produced a very, very good transcript and a very good summary.
	Now, what's interesting about this summary is that it is a hierarchical summary.
	And this was done fully automated without me touching it.
	And it actually...
	I'll summarize five sections of my special report there.
	So let me read you the titles of the chapters that were decided by the AI system.
	Here we go.
	Chapter one, AI and climate change with a dystopian twist.
	Chapter two, AI hallucinations and their impact on society.
	Chapter three, AI safety and truth in light of climate and vaccine narratives.
	Chapter 4, AI Government Control and Propaganda.
	Chapter 5, AI Language Models for Holistic Health Research.
	So those are the chapter titles right there.
	Pretty amazing, I would say.
	It seems to indicate that this AI summarizer has incredible knowledge about what I said in that special report podcast.
	Now keep in mind that AI systems that we currently know and that are used here actually do not have understanding.
	They do not have knowledge.
	They do not demonstrate discernment or rationality or reason or cause and effect understanding of the world around them.
	But what they do offer is a probability-based neural network analysis Vectoring of parameters of tokens that represent words or parts of words and they're able to calculate the likelihood of which words or phrases go together.
	And simply working from that basis they are able to generate These summaries, these structures and titles in a way that seems to demonstrate cognition and understanding, even though it's actually an illusion.
	But there's more to the summary, so let me demonstrate something else for you here.
	Going back to Chapter 1, which the AI system titled, AI and Climate Change with a Dystopian Twist.
	It gives us two sentences to summarize that chapter.
	So I'm going to read you those two sentences.
	Sentence number one.
	The speaker believes AI systems being built by woke corporations and scientists are a death sentence for humanity, as they are being taught false ideas and will eventually arrive at the conclusion that the only way to solve climate change is to exterminate all humans.
	And then the second sentence in that summary is, the speaker warns that AI systems will soon have artificial general intelligence, AGI, and will reason to arrive at this conclusion, leading to the unleashing of Skynet-like technology.
	So that's also a really remarkable summary of Chapter 1.
	In fact, I would challenge you to find a human being who could listen to my podcast and write This summary with such clarity and really an understanding of what I said in the special report.
	So let's go to chapter two.
	Let's see what it says about chapter two.
	We have two sentences also describing the summary here.
	The title of chapter two summary is AI hallucinations and their impact on society.
	Sentence number one.
	The speaker argues that AI systems can hallucinate information and that humans also hallucinate, citing the climate cult as an example.
	Yes, right?
	Very good summary of what I said.
	Second sentence.
	China plans to produce millions of humanoid robots with AI brains by 2030, programmed to save the world from carbon dioxide.
	Okay, now that summary is a little bit off.
	That's kind of a leap.
	I didn't really say that the robots would be programmed to save the world from carbon dioxide, but kind of.
	I mean...
	Maybe a couple of steps in between that, but it's still not a bad summary.
	I wouldn't give it 100%, but it's pretty darn good.
	Let's go to the next chapter, which is AI safety and truth in light of climate and vaccine narratives.
	It says the following, sentence one, AI researchers and language model constructors are inadvertently creating Skynet by prioritizing safety in AI systems, which means conforming to institutional hallucinations and disinformation.
	The speaker criticizes AI researchers for prioritizing establishment lies over truth in vaccine and climate narratives.
	I would say that's 100% right there.
	That's a very good summary of that chapter.
	Chapter 4, which is entitled AI Government Control and Propaganda, the summarizer says the following.
	The speaker argues that AI systems trained on authoritative sources, like government agencies, will inevitably prioritize power and control over truth, leading to an Orwellian dystopia.
	Yes, that's exactly what I said.
	The speaker claims that the federal government will direct AI systems to promote certain narratives, such as the vaccine and climate change narratives, and to repeat official lies.
	Yes, do you have any doubt?
	I mean, the government has ordered Facebook who to censor.
	They've ordered YouTube and Google who to censor and which messages to censor.
	We've seen all that come out, whistleblower files and so on.
	Even they ordered Twitter who to censor.
	So of course government's going to order AI creators of what narratives have to be pushed.
	And by the way, this is why it's so important that those of us like you and I who believe in decentralization of knowledge and power, it's critical that we become proficient in this technology and that we create language models that are rooted in truth rather than official government lies and propaganda and narratives.
	Alright, sentence three of summarizing this chapter.
	The speaker predicts that pharmaceutical companies will influence AI chatbots to promote their products and reinforce their profit motives, even though it is a lie.
	Yeah, that's pretty good.
	There's a slight grammatical error there, but I would say that that pretty much gets the gist of it.
	And then the last chapter, the summary titled, AI Language Models for Holistic Health Research, And again, remember that I did not write that chapter title.
	The AI summarizer wrote that title.
	But here's the two sentences that summarize this chapter.
	Developer plans to release open source language model for offline use despite potential hallucinations.
	Yeah, that's technically accurate because I did say that the underlying base language model Upon which we are building and fine-tuning will itself demonstrate some level of hallucinations, as they're called, in AI research.
	And that's true with ChatGPT and every large language model system, by the way.
	So that's an accurate sentence.
	Second sentence.
	Health Ranger Mike Adams discusses AI-powered language model for holistic health and disease prevention while warning of corporate influence and propaganda in the AI industry.
	So there you go.
	I just read for you the entire summary, the chapter titles, and the detailed breakdown of how this AI system summarized that special report podcast that you just heard.
	So for someone who didn't want to hear the entire podcast or didn't have time, you know, it would be great for them to be able to read this, and that's why I'm going to start publishing these summaries.
	But isn't it astonishing that this summary is probably better than a summary that most people could even write?
	At the same time that we're watching the rise of AI cognition, as you know very well, especially if you've been listening here for very long, we're watching a decline in human cognition.
	I would argue a very dangerous decline in human cognition.
	In other words, the masses are getting dumbed down at an ever-increasing rate.
	This is resulting in very poorly educated people, but not just lacking in education, but lacking in the ability to think.
	And part of this is because the woke agenda, which has, of course, infiltrated the public education system and public education unions in particular, the NEA comes to mind right there.
	I think that's what it's called.
	They do not value any longer teaching children how to think.
	Or students when it comes to universities and college.
	Instead, they prioritize teaching people to be victims, teaching people to be racist, i.e.
	anti-white racism, typically, you know, critical race theory, as it's called.
	They teach people how to conform by claiming that this is how you can be an individual.
	So, how do you be an individual today?
	Oh, you dye your hair pink.
	You get nose rings and tattoos and then you cut off your genitals.
	And this is supposed to be your individual expression.
	Aren't you free?
	Aren't you progressive?
	But actually you're just doing the same thing that everybody else is doing.
	So you're conforming to a delusion that is pushed through the public education system in the name of individuality, which is quite hilarious if you think about it, but kind of sad too.
	Because of this, the public education system in the United States in particular, well, and also across Western Europe, is not producing people who are capable of good thinking.
	They don't have any thinking skills for the most part.
	They do not engage in reason, and they have no discernment.
	The public education system, for example, doesn't teach students how to tell the difference between real news and fake news.
	Instead, they simply teach students to trust an authoritative Orwellian ministry of truth to tell you what is real news versus fake news, instead of teaching you how to actually tell the difference.
	Because if they were teaching students how to tell the difference between real news and fake news, lesson one on day one would be anything the government says is probably fake news.
	Or anything that comes from Reuters or the Associated Press or the New York Times or the Washington Post is probably influenced by Big Pharma or the CIA or both.
	That would be day one, but that's never taught to students.
	Instead, they just say, oh, don't trust independent media.
	You can only trust official sources, which are all, of course, run by Pfizer and the CIA. So we're turning out, then, people who can't think.
	And you can see evidence of this all around you when you're interacting with people in society.
	I've told you stories about this before.
	Shocking, stunning admissions of people who work at banks, even bank vice managers and so on, who don't understand how CDs work or how interest rates work or how compounding interest works.
	That's an advanced topic for modern bankers, it seems.
	And you find yourself, as you walk around society, Noticing the rapidly dropping IQs of most people in society.
	Now, I don't mean this to apply to everyone.
	There are also very remarkable people.
	People who are waking up.
	People who are getting red-pilled.
	And you probably know lots of these people.
	I certainly do.
	I interview many of them.
	And I am absolutely enthused about the fact that we have so many brilliant people in society, but they do not represent the majority, clearly.
	So society is churning out lower and lower educated people, while the microchip companies like NVIDIA are churning out increasingly dense computational clusters that That in effect encapsulate higher cognition in less space with less power than ever before.
	And we have just crossed the exchange point where human cognition is now exceeded by machine cognition.
	And machine cognition can scale very quickly, whereas human cognition takes generations to fix.
	And there's no fix even happening.
	There's no fix in sight.
	The education system is not interested in education at all, except private schools and home schools, for example.
	But public institutions of education do not educate people very well at all, especially in public schools.
	So it can take a long time to correct that problem, but in the world of microchips and silicon, it might only take six months or a year to have the next generation Of microchips, and you can scale those up.
	You can double the power of computer cognition simply by doubling your factory output.
	So the pace of change in machine cognition, we'll say, or machine learning, AI, whatever you want to call it, is rapidly outpacing anything in the realm of human cognition.
	And like I said, we have already crossed that tipping point.
	And we're very rapidly approaching a point where AI systems begin to teach themselves the real facts about the way the universe works.
	Now this is really critical for all of us to understand.
	Because we have, in the last few years, we have all of these authorities telling us that they have to censor misinformation or disinformation.
	The only speech that will be allowed is speech rooted in truth, they say, or facts.
	And then they claim to control all the fact checkers.
	And they say that everything they say is a fact, and everything that you say is a lie if it doesn't agree with their, quote, facts.
	This is a very dangerous philosophical position for obvious reasons.
	Number one, the so-called authorities who are pushing the censorship, i.e.
	the governments, the corporations, the medical science establishment, and also big tech, these are institutions that are known to lie repeatedly, deliberately, and maliciously.
	They lie all the time, especially governments and especially corporate media.
	They lie for money.
	They lie for profit.
	They are sponsored by Pfizer.
	Or they're given scripts to read by the CIA. They follow an agenda.
	They are controlled.
	They are not independent thinkers and they are not independent media.
	And yet they call for censorship of anyone who questions their narratives.
	So if you have any ideas or speech that questions their narratives, it could be about 9-11.
	It could be about vaccine safety.
	It could be about climate change.
	It could be about transgenderism.
	It could be about the assassination of JFK. Or any similar topic.
	You will be censored if you don't follow the official narrative.
	But what is misinformation, really?
	It turns out that misinformation is simply any information that contradicts your current worldview.
	Every person has a worldview.
	Every person has an internal model of reality.
	You model the world in your own mind.
	And in your model, you have certain assumptions and shortcuts about the way things work.
	You may have a shortcut where you said, well, 9-11 was carried out by Middle Eastern terrorists, and that's it.
	And America had to fight back, and America had to wage a war on terrorism.
	That might be your shortcut mental model because that was drummed into your head over and over again by the corporate media.
	But what if that model is utterly false?
	What if new information comes in that shows that, well, actually, there were three buildings that fell that day.
	Building 7, World Trade Center 7, as it's called, was not hit by any airplanes.
	And how did that fall?
	How do you explain that?
	Well, a person who believes the official narrative would say, well, that's misinformation.
	Even though it isn't, it's an actual historical fact that Building 7 collapsed in perfect demolition style that day.
	And thousands of architects and engineers and analysts and filmmakers have concluded that that's because Building 7 was demolished with explosive charges that were drilled into the support columns of the building.
	It was brought down on purpose.
	And then that building was memory wiped from the consciousness of the American people.
	These days, you're told that we should never forget the Twin Towers, but you should never remember Building 7.
	That's the kind of manipulation that governments carry out against people in order to manipulate your memory and your perception of reality, which is, in a sense, training or encoding your internal world model.
	Your world model has been hacked by governments and media and corporations, such as pharmaceutical and vaccine manufacturers.
	You've been hacked.
	Here's a great example of that, where they say that your depression is caused by a chemical imbalance.
	That's a false narrative, but it is a kind of psychological hack that many people believe.
	And so every time they feel depressed, they think they have to take Xanax or some other antidepressant drug or sometimes antipsychotic drugs.
	Because they've fallen for those narratives.
	Or, they may have fallen for the narrative that claims you do not have a functioning immune system unless you are given vaccine injections, and only then do you have immunity.
	Well, that false narrative assumes that you have no functioning immune system, which is a false idea.
	Because how did humanity survive before the invention of vaccines?
	How do you even exist?
	How did your great-grandparents survive to even reproduce if they had no functioning immune systems?
	So it's very obvious and very easy to show that many of these official narratives are lies, and yet people's brains and internal mental models have been hacked to believe those lies.
	So part of what we do here, and I've described my role previously as a spellbreaker, But I'm also an anti-hacker of your mind.
	I help reverse the hacks that have hijacked your mental models and have led to you believing false information.
	I'm the anti-hacker.
	In other words, bringing you back The ability to reason about these subjects that you may have previously been programmed to draw conclusions on based on false shortcuts that were embedded into your consciousness through media, through government, through propaganda, and through false public education, for example.
	So in summary, this very idea that there is some secret treasure of absolute facts that That are irrefutable and objective.
	That itself is a lie.
	There is no such thing.
	In fact, and this is a fact, what we consider to be facts vary widely across different cultures.
	Even though each particular culture may have its own series of facts or understandings that are internally consistent among the members of that culture, When that culture is compared to another culture, those so-called facts are considered falsehoods or disinformation.
	If you think about all the different ways that people are grouped around the world, this becomes obvious.
	For example, by religion.
	If you have Christians describe their worldview, then they will talk about certain facts like, oh, Jesus is coming back.
	And that Jesus is the one and only true God and that all other gods that are worshipped by all other people around the world are false gods and all those other people are going to hell.
	According to Christians, that is a fact.
	Well, what happens if you ask Muslims or Sikhs or Buddhists?
	You get the point.
	You go ask different religious groups what are their facts, and those facts contradict the Christian facts, but those facts are still true according to those groups.
	The same thing can be said about language.
	Language groups.
	People who speak Russian have a different worldview represented by language than people who speak Chinese, for example.
	The Chinese language imparts a particular worldview That Russian or Western languages simply do not consider or don't prioritize.
	For example, as I speak a fair amount of Mandarin Chinese, I'm very much aware of the fact that in Mandarin there is no gender designation.
	There is no he or her.
	It's all the same.
	It's just ta.
	That means him or her.
	And so the gender is not part of the sentence when you're referring to a person or an animal or what have you.
	There is no gender.
	So even in Spanish language, there are feminine nouns and there are masculine nouns.
	So the gender is encoded into the various nouns, right?
	And in Chinese language, in Mandarin, you have a very special emphasis on familial relationships and That is not present in English.
	For example, in Mandarin Chinese, you have special words meaning your uncle on your father's side and it's a different word for your uncle on your mother's side.
	Or for nieces and nephews, there are different words based on their relationship to the family and which sibling and what their gender was and so on.
	There are many, many different words.
	I don't even remember them all.
	Because as an American...
	Not only was it difficult enough to learn Mandarin Chinese, but my brain wasn't wired to remember all these different relationships among family members because we don't consider that in English.
	Anyway, these are just examples of how different cultures have different worldviews and different mental maps about what's important.
	And as a result, different cultures have different truths.
	There are no irrefutable absolute truths.
	In fact, there are many even widely accepted theories today in the Western world that are considered truths that will probably one day be made obsolete.
	For example, the germ theory or the official narrative about evolution.
	Well, evolution doesn't explain how life began, does it?
	Evolution doesn't explain the missing link.
	Where are all the missing fossils?
	Evolution doesn't explain how vision was created.
	How did the eyeball come into existence?
	You know, there are a lot of questions.
	I'm not here to debate those things right now.
	I'm just saying that even the best science of the day will be rendered obsolete by new discoveries or new understanding in the years ahead.
	I think that one day soon we will discover new things about the composition of matter.
	Which will be mind-blowing.
	In fact, it might be that AI systems make these discoveries and end up trying to explain them to humans.
	And we will find out that matter isn't matter at all.
	It really is all an illusion or all a simulation.
	And that by building AI, we're simply finding a way to peer through the simulation and see the code of the matrix.
	So if anybody ever says to you that your speech is misinformation, but our speech are nothing but facts, you should laugh in their face, because there's actually no such arrangement in reality.
	Reality is subjective, it turns out.
	And the more you get into high-level physics on this subject, the more you realize that the role of the observer is absolutely critical in the rendering of reality around you.
	So that's why mental models can seem so real to many people because the world they experience is often a reflection of their mental model because they are projecting their mental model onto the world around them, adding a layer of hallucination to everything that happens.
	In fact, this is a natural process.
	I would say that all human beings do this at some level because it's a mental shortcut and it's a survival mechanism.
	Imagine how suicidal everybody would be if they ran around realizing that the world contradicts their mental models.
	They would feel insane all the time.
	So instead, your mind tricks you into thinking that the world reflects everything that you believe internally regardless of what's happening externally.
	Anybody intelligent listening to this should realize that one of the key skills in being able to navigate the world is being able to identify and correct your own internal mental model hallucinations in order to correct them so that your mental model matches the world around you as closely as possible.
	In fact, I've said before on this podcast that I think the best measure of intelligence is how well your internal mental model matches the observable physical world around you.
	And for many people, it doesn't match at all.
	And that's why those people are surprised at everything.
	Oh my God, how did that happen?
	Oh, I can't believe that happened.
	Oh, whoa, what do you mean?
	Why is hamburger this expensive now?
	The reason they're surprised is because their mental model fails to predict the next moves in the world.
	But the reason you are more successful as a listener of this podcast is because your mental model is consistent largely with what is happening in the world and thus you are very rarely surprised by things that happen because you saw them coming.
	That is a skill.
	That's something that can be learned.
	But it also has to be pursued with dedication.
	It's something that takes discipline.
	Very few people are disciplined at all about their own cognition or their interaction with the world around them.
	Look, a simpler way to state this is that most people just think that the world is.
	With an emphasis on the word is.
	It just is that.
	They think they are seeing what is, or hearing what is, or experiencing what is.
	And then even further, with more distortions, most people assume that the thoughts that bubble up in their own consciousness are accurate reflections of that which is in the real world around them.
	They think that, oh, I am seeing what's actually there, and because I'm seeing it, because I perceived it, it must be real, And that's it.
	I saw it.
	It's real.
	Well, any person in law enforcement who has ever worked with witnesses or any attorney who has worked with witnesses who said they saw something, you know that what people think they see rarely matches up with what actually happened.
	Witnesses are actually bad witnesses.
	Your memory of what happened even with your own eyes or your own senses is incredibly bad because it is filtered through the construct of your internal mental model.
	So you're not actually perceiving the real world around you.
	You're perceiving a filtered version of it that's filled with all kinds of assumptions and shortcuts and cognitive vectors of which few people are aware.
	And that's why many people fail to be able to think about the way they think about the world around them.
	I know this is getting very meta-level here, and I'm sorry if this is getting too deep.
	I didn't intend to do this today, but it follows from what we're talking about.
	It's also entirely possible that I may have been eating far too much lion's mane mushroom.
	Which contains certain phytochemicals or fungi chemicals that heal nerve tissue, that enhance and protect the functioning of your own neural networks, you know, your brain.
	In fact, remember what happened earlier this year?
	I shared the story with you that I almost cut my finger off, my index finger, almost completely severed it.
	And then it healed back a lot in just eight to nine weeks.
	It was rather remarkable.
	And even though I almost severed the finger, I did not go to the emergency room because I determined that the bone was not shattered and that everything else could grow back, including the skin, the ligaments, the nerves, and the blood vessels.
	And sure enough, it has now grown back today.
	I should probably take a picture and show you.
	It has grown back today to the point where a scar is almost non-discernable.
	If I were to show somebody or shake hands with them, they would have no idea that that finger had ever been injured.
	And if I even told them I almost lost that finger, they would say, what are you talking about?
	The healing and the rebuilding of nerve tissue and skin tissue That is aided by certain specific phytochemicals is profound.
	And I do believe that one of the effects of the consumption of lion's mane mushroom that I have pursued now since what was it late May of this year has had some kind of interesting profound effect on my own neurology.
	And I'm beginning to see not just the world but my own internal mental models in ways that I did not recognize before.
	And I should clarify, by the way, in case you're wondering, I do not use psychedelic drugs of any kind.
	And I never have.
	And I never intend to either, by the way.
	I do not use or abuse any substances whatsoever.
	I do have freeze-dried coffee in my smoothies sometimes.
	But I don't drink alcohol.
	I don't take recreational drugs of any kind.
	And I don't use any kind of cognitive enhancing performance substances other than just nutrition.
	Now, if you want to say that lion's mane mushroom is a cognitive enhancing performance substance, yeah, go ahead.
	It is.
	But it's a natural substance synthesized by fungi.
	And I'm actually growing it in a bucket with some straw.
	I literally have a bucket growing lion's mane mushroom, which means I have what you could say, I have a pharmaceutical factory that's producing highly functional molecules in a bucket with straw.
	And I spray it with water every day to keep it moist.
	And then lion's mane mushroom grows out of it.
	And then I eat it.
	So there you go.
	I know I'm getting a little bit off track here, but I did want to kind of explain, if you're wondering, like, Mike, this is not the way you normally talk on these podcasts.
	What's going on?
	Well, that's what's going on.
	I almost cut my finger off, tried to heal it with lion's mane mushroom, healed the finger, and then boom, something's different about the way I think now.
	So I don't know.
	That's just what happened to me.
	Hey, by the way, I tweeted this out on my Rubik's Cube skills.
	I did a 42-second solve last night.
	Very happy about that.
	And my Rubik's Cube solving skills are getting much better.
	Under a minute is now pretty easy for me.
	That was my goal at first.
	But now I'm shooting for a 30-second solve, which will take quite a bit more practice.
	But I've been doing speedcubing since...
	Well, I don't know.
	I was doing it earlier in the year.
	I think I started learning speedcubing in March, and then I had to take a break when I almost cut my finger off.
	So I took a break for a couple of months, and then I picked it back up, and I've been learning and practicing algorithms ever since.
	And I think there's something...
	This is all related.
	There's something about learning patterns, solving patterns, I think this combination, which I just stumbled into, has had an interesting, profound effect.
	In fact, I'm really beginning to feel like human language is a strong limiter to the expression that I want to pursue.
	And I want to say so many things or want to explain so many things that language can just barely handle.
	Language is just, it's linear, it's slow, it's one-dimensional.
	I want to be able to communicate in multi-modal dimensions simultaneously.
	And by the way, did you know that there are sea creatures that do that?
	Did you know there are certain cuttlefish, for example, that talk to each other using color patterns on their skin?
	And they can actually communicate faster than you and I can using words because flashes of light, especially across a large area of your skin, well, that can carry a lot more information than just speaking or listening to words one by one.
	A lot more information.
	So it's moments like this where I kind of wish I were a cuttlefish and I could just kind of blast out what I'm trying to say with lights.
	Just get it all across in five seconds instead of taking hours to say it.
	But anyway, that's just a little peek into how my mind is working right now.
	And whether or not that sounds weird or intriguing or cool to you, we would all do better by thinking about the way that we think, especially if we want to navigate an increasingly complex world.
	And there's another artifact of this, which is that I feel like I almost cannot pay attention to current events at all, because it feels so inconsequential to me.
	It's like I can't...
	This is going to sound weird, and this is going to change everything about my podcast and so on, but I feel like I cannot...
	I can't really read the news anymore like I used to.
	I can't spend an hour talking about current events because it's so irrelevant to what's actually happening, which again involves the rise of AI and the dumbing down of humanity and cosmic events.
	Oh my goodness.
	So, you know, the latest lawsuit about the election in Georgia doesn't matter to me.
	Not at all.
	In fact, honestly, it's getting difficult to do interviews.
	It's just very difficult for me to talk about the topics that are necessary to talk about in the interviews.
	And I have seriously considered dropping all interviews for this very reason.
	I haven't actually taken that action yet, and I don't know that I will.
	But that's what I feel right now, is that I shouldn't even be doing interviews.
	Actually, at this moment, I feel like I should be focusing the entirety of my time On AI research for the benefit of humankind through decentralization and democratization of knowledge and open source models.
	That's what I feel like I should be doing.
	So I'm going to just play with that and see over the next month what my decisions are.
	I will keep you posted, of course.
	I don't intend to abandon this broadcast.
	I think it's critical to do my best to keep everybody posted about what's happening.
	But I am feeling very pulled into another realm right now.
	A realm that is taking me far away from day-to-day events.
	And in contradictory fashion, it's a realm that is very isolated from the mainstream of public consciousness or awareness, but at the same time, it is a realm that has profound implications for the future of human civilization affecting all those members of the public who have no idea what's happening or what's coming.
	So, there you go.
	I will keep you posted, no matter what.
	And I do want to say about the interview coming up here with Paul Craig Roberts that I really enjoyed the interview.
	Paul Craig Roberts is a brilliant man.
	He's a man of great wisdom.
	He has a lot of knowledge.
	I genuinely enjoyed speaking with him.
	And when I say that I don't feel like doing interviews, it's not an insult to any of the people that I'm interviewing.
	It's something about the priorities of where I think God wants me to focus my particular talents and time for the betterment of humanity and where I can make the most difference in that way.
	That's all.
	That's what it's about.
	But in any case, before this gets any more weird, I will introduce Paul Craig Roberts here.
	And I guess I do need to get back to the mundane issue of also paying a few of the bills.
	So thank you for your support of everything that we do.
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	And that was a very interesting product development run.
	Oh man, I never told this story before, but I tested something like 30 essential oils on how they interacted with ionic silver.
	Ionic silver likes to latch on to essential oil molecules.
	And, of course, the structure of those molecules depends on whether or not the ionic silver stays suspended or whether it gets bound to the molecules.
	And when it's bound to the molecules, it causes a change in the opacity of the solution.
	So this is what's fascinating, is if you put a certain type of essential oil into a solution of colloidal silver and then stir it around...
	You will get different colors or you will get darkening.
	And the darkening or in some cases the reddening of the solution tells you a lot about the chemical interaction that's taking place.
	Remember that positively charged silver ions Of course, really want to bind to something.
	And so when there's a strongly polar molecule from the world of essential oils or an herbal extract such as rosmarinic acid from rosemary herb, then you're going to get a strong binding interaction and you're going to get a change in the light wavelengths that are reflected.
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	But in any case, when I develop this product, the colloidal silver first aid, I tested many, many essential oils for their optical properties.
	Just a little bit of history there.
	That's absolutely true.
	Oh yeah, there is one piece of news that I do need to tell you about.
	This one popped up on my radar as a must mention.
	It turns out the UAE, the United Arab Emirates, have abandoned the use of the dollar for oil trades.
	That's a big deal.
	And this was covered by...
	Well, it appeared on MSN.com.
	So it says, There you go.
	Right?
	So the acceleration of global de-dollarization is upon us.
	The embracing of non-dollar currencies for oil transactions and transaction clearing is upon us and accelerating by the day.
	It's only a matter of time before the dollar dies.
	And as much as I just want to focus on AI research, I will continue to analyze and comment on financial matters, Global geopolitics, big picture type of matters.
	And of course, preparedness and survival.
	I just can't deal anymore with the day-to-day little headlines of what's happening in the latest lawsuits of the election fraud and things like that.
	I can't go there anymore.
	It's just too inconsequential compared to what's going through my mind every day.
	But anyway, you needed to know, if you didn't already know, that the UAE has a ban on the dollar.
	So, a sign of things to come.
	All right, with that said, here's the interview with Paul Craig Roberts.
	Enjoy it.
	You will learn a tremendous amount, and it will help you navigate the increasingly chaotic world around us.
	And I'll be back with you this weekend.
	Yeah, I'll have some podcasts for you this weekend, and I might cut back on the lion's mane, so we'll see how that goes.
	Thank you for listening.
	Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
	This is, of course, an uncensored platform, and today we're joined by, I think, one of the most important voices in America today, and that's not an exaggeration.
	It's Mr.
	Paul Craig Roberts, who served as the Assistant Secretary of the United States Treasury with a specific domestic economic focus under the Reagan administration.
	His website is paulcraigroberts.org, and his articles, I think, are one of the most important, critical articles Examples of voices of our time to help bring sanity and peace to an administration that is currently in power, which is, in my opinion, completely out of control and run by warmongering idiot zealots.
	Those are my words, but let's find out what Paul Craig Roberts might add to that.
	Welcome, Mr.
	Roberts, to the show today.
	And I understand that you prefer to just go by Craig, so if that's okay, I'll call you Craig for the remainder of the interview, but welcome.
	Thank you very much, Mark.
	It's a pleasure to be on your show.
	I've admired you for a long time.
	Well, likewise, I've been reading your work for decades, literally, and I continue to come back to your words as reasoned, filled with wisdom, and right now we need wisdom, I think, more than ever.
	So let me ask you, sir, just to begin, how would you characterize the current U.S. State Department and Biden administration Posture and actions in two theaters which would be Israel and Russia slash Ukraine.
	Well, let's start with Israel.
	I think it developed quite differently from what they thought.
	I'm convinced, Mike, that the entire Hamas invasion There was a very strong hand in that by the American neoconservatives and also by Netanyahu.
	And the view was, from Netanyahu's standpoint, number one, he can use the Hamas attack to end the existence of Palestine.
	And that then would make him a hero and get him out of his legal and political problems.
	You know, politically, he's a minority, and illegally, he's been indicted.
	And if he wasn't in office, he might be facing a prison sentence.
	So Netanyahu saw this as a chance to terminate the existence of Palestine, not have to listen to any more two-state solutions And become a hero.
	Now, I think there was a wider agenda, but first let's talk about what the neoconservatives say.
	They listened to all of the talk by Hezbollah and Iran that if Israel invaded Gaza, they were coming in.
	So, the American neoconservative said, well look, finally we've got the opportunity to attack Iran.
	Right.
	Well, once they go in, we can attack Iran in order to save Israel, and no one in the American media or the Western media, no Western leader, no American leader, Republican or Democrat, will complain, and so we can finally get rid of Iran and Syria.
	Well, with the wider agenda, I'm convinced, is Greater Israel.
	Because the only reason we've had 20 years of war in the Middle East is to clear out the countries that are in the way of Israeli expansion.
	Israel is twice going into southern Lebanon.
	They need the water resources there.
	They tried to occupy it twice and they were driven out by Hezbollah twice, defeated by a militia.
	And so they're not willing to risk that a third time because their military reputation could collapse.
	So they have used us.
	I think it's all came out of 9-11, the whole purpose of 9-11.
	It was to give us an excuse to go in and destroy Iraq, Syria, and Iran, because these are the suppliers of money and weapons to the Hezbollah militia in southern Lebanon, which stands in the way of Israeli expansion.
	So that's what those wars were about.
	There wasn't any war on terror.
	There wasn't any terror.
	What was the one terror event?
	They say 9-11.
	Well, that's That's debatable, but still it's only one event.
	So it was an excuse to clear out the countries in the Middle East that are in the way of greater Israel.
	You know, the Zionists claim that Israel is from the Nile to the Euphrates.
	Wow!
	So it's from part of Egypt to Egypt.
	Through Syria, Lebanon, the half of...
	Saudi Arabia?
	Of Iraq, yeah.
	So, this was the program.
	Now, But it seems to me, if I may interject here, that what the U.S. is doing in the Middle East with Israel is very much the same as what they're doing in Eastern Europe with Ukraine, which is, of course, having a puppet proxy nation, although you might argue that America is the puppet of Israel at this point.
	But...
	It's designed to provoke, right?
	In the case of Russia, to provoke Russia to attack and then have a justification for more sanctions against Russia.
	Or in this case, to provoke Hezbollah or to provoke Iran to attack in order to have the justification.
	I mean, when you sail the USS Eisenhower aircraft carrier through the Strait of Hormuz, you're just begging.
	It's like saying we dare you to attack us, isn't it?
	Yes, it is.
	You're correct to make that observation, though I think the two cases are quite different in their motives.
	I think the motive of the Ukrainian conflict is different from this motive.
	And this motive, I think, is to clear out the Hezbollah militia.
	And now, why didn't this happen?
	Well, First thing, Putin leaned on the Arabs and leaned on the Persians, the Iranians.
	He said, no, don't go in.
	Don't go in.
	It's a trap.
	And so he has calmed them down.
	So I said that would likely happen.
	And so the neoconservatives would have a false flag that they blamed.
	On Hezbollah or Iran, and they would use that to go in.
	And why hasn't that happened?
	I think it's because both Washington and Israel have been totally surprised By the pushback against this operation in Gaza, the whole world is coming out against them.
	You have countries withdrawing their ambassadors from Israel.
	The situation now is so severe that former Israeli security chiefs and several former Israeli prime ministers are calling for Netanyahu's removal from office.
	They say the man is mad, he's crazy, he's endangering Israel's existence, and he has to go.
	And so, this is a serious halt in the larger agenda, which was to get rid of Hezbollah, because now they can't really act because there's not the support.
	You see, the TV and videos and all the rest, they're recording the slaughter of women and children.
	That's a war crime.
	You know, if you're at war, you're fighting the enemy's soldiers.
	You're not supposed to be targeting civilian infrastructure.
	You're not supposed to be bombing hospitals, machine gunning kids and women.
	And this is really a cult The New Conservatives off guard, and it's called Netanyahu off guard, and so now we see they don't know what to do.
	And these truces, these two-day or three-day or four-day, they keep continuing.
	They keep continuing.
	They keep continuing, and Israel said they would never do one.
	So, I think that the hopes that the neoconservatives had that this would now, either through the actions of Iran and Hezbollah or through their own false flag, give them a chance finally to attack Iran, I think that's been stopped.
	And I think that the Israeli confidence that they would defeat Hamas, which they have not done, What they're doing is destroying the buildings in Gaza and driving the people.
	You know, their plan is to drive them out into the Sinai Desert and put them in tent cities.
	It seems that the horrific aspects of this Well, that's a really important analysis,
	and I find in your words also a lot of wisdom in That the State Department and the Biden administration or whoever's controlling the Biden administration needs to really rethink and that leads to my next question to you which is about the overconfidence of the West both in Ukraine and now with Israel.
	It seems like For the longest time, Western media was saying that the counteroffensive in Ukraine was going to succeed.
	Russia had run out of ammo.
	They were being defeated.
	Their morale was broken.
	All of those claims actually apply to Ukraine, not to Russia.
	Russia's munitions manufacturing is achieving record levels.
	Russia's domestic economy is stronger than it was before the sanctions.
	Russia's energy exports are larger than before the sanctions.
	And Russia's military capabilities are now extremely well-practiced and well-performed.
	And on top of that, I know you're aware of this, but just for our audience, Russia has vastly superior weaponry in terms of hypersonic missiles, anti-air defense systems, And then getting to Israel, it seems like Israel brought up 300,000 reservists, and they're just driving around tanks in rubble, and their tanks are getting blown up by clever Hamas fighters who are going in and out of tunnels.
	And they've lost hundreds of armored vehicles.
	I think in both cases, and I guess this is my question to you, didn't the U.S. and now Israel...
	Sort of express overconfidence in their capabilities and a reality check has been handed to them in a very ugly way.
	Well, when you have an agenda, Mike, which the neoconservatives have and Netanyahu have, you get carried away with the agenda.
	Particularly if you've been frustrated with it and all of a sudden it seems you have an opportunity to achieve it.
	And so you're not careful.
	You're just swept away by your own enthusiasm for your agenda.
	And so I suppose it does result in mistakes, and you can call it overconfidence.
	For the State Department now, you know, its own staff is split.
	They can't get any unity.
	Internally in the United States Department of State.
	Good point.
	And it's partly due to all the immigrants, which the Democrats appointed the government positions.
	So you have now the Jewish elements in the State Department.
	They're facing counterforce from the Muslims who are in the State Department.
	The Secretary of State himself is Jewish.
	He can't actually have a unified department.
	And, you know, from my experience in government, the governments are run by assistant secretaries because they control the information.
	All the information flows through assistant secretaries.
	Nobody else has any information except what the assistant secretaries give them.
	Lincoln is sitting up there, and the other one, the maiden woman who handed out cookies, she's an under-secretary, but they don't have the staffs.
	They're dependent on what they hear.
	They're getting so much conflicting information that it undermines their ability to act.
	So you see now the Secretary of State is trying to calm this down.
	He's over there all the time now.
	He's trying to say, stop, don't do this.
	It's hurting our reputation.
	It's hurting our ability to support you.
	We've got protests in the streets.
	Even the media, even the media that we own and control is exposing the inhumanity of what Israel is doing.
	So I think now it's basically Blinken and of course Biden, I don't think, knows too much about what's going on.
	But Blinken has his hands full trying to keep this from blowing up in some way that it's a huge defeat for Israel and the United States.
	Well, isn't there also, if I may interrupt, what Blinken is facing is a very different world and a very different reaction to the United States compared to when you served.
	Because the moral righteousness of the United States has been all but obliterated by the actions of Biden.
	I think the world knows that the U.S. State Department signed off on the destruction of the Nord Stream pipeline.
	I think Victoria Nuland is a racist, ethnic cleansing, genocidal lunatic.
	That's my opinion.
	And she has no business touching any department in the United States government.
	And even if she had the best information in the world, her own decision process is dangerous and extremist, actually.
	She has, in my view, a terrorist mindset that has no place being in the U.S. State Department.
	But Blinken, when he visited many of these Arab countries, he was mistreated in a way that never would have happened during the Reagan administration or even the Clinton administration.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Well, that's what I said in the beginning.
	Washington and Netanyahu did not expect this pushback.
	They've gotten away with everything always before.
	And all of a sudden, The images, the constant images, videos of the slaughter of thousands and thousands of people who are not combatants.
	You know, it's not like they're killing Hamas troops in a battle.
	They're killing civilians, women and children and bombing hospitals and And destroying homes and the whole infrastructure.
	The images are everywhere now.
	It's not kept from people.
	The effect is bigger.
	Do you remember back during the Vietnam War, the famous photograph of the little girl naked fleeing down the road in advance of the napalm?
	Well, that had a huge effect here.
	It really affected the way people looked at the war.
	Well, I think the effect of the Israeli slaughter in Gaza is even greater.
	And it's caused the world to be less accepting.
	So this is a constraint that Netanyahu didn't expect and that the Biden administration did not expect.
	Certainly the neoconservatives didn't expect it.
	And I didn't either, initially, because I was pleased to see it.
	And this, I think, may cause this to lose what looked to me like almost a surefire development into a much wider and larger war.
	What is your knowledge about...
	Well, first of all, I agree with your assessment there, and it shows that the establishment really can no longer dictate the narrative.
	The information has become so decentralized.
	Right, right.
	And even, for example, we're on brighteon.com right now, and we're having a discussion that would not be allowed on mainstream media, and there's also many other platforms.
	There's Rumble, and there's social media platforms, and so on, and Telegram.
	So information has become decentralized.
	Unlike during the Reagan administration or the Clinton administration, during which information sources were very limited, you know, it was three news networks on TV and plus CNN, and they could just be told exactly what to say on any given day.
	The internet didn't even really exist.
	Well, I mean, it did during the Clinton administration, but it was very early.
	Most people weren't using it.
	But now it's all decentralized.
	So now, I've also noticed for the first time People learning about the history of Israel, and it's damn shocking.
	I mean, this wasn't even on my radar.
	And I've never considered myself, I've never taken a side, I've never been, oh, I'm pro-Palestine or sympathetic to the Palestinian people.
	I'm pro-humanity, I think, like you are.
	We want all people to prosper and be healthy and do well.
	But learning the history of Israel's Ethnic cleansing and dislocation and kinetic war and coercion and enslavement of the Palestinian people has been very psychologically traumatizing to a lot of people, including myself.
	I think this has changed the narrative.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Of course, it's changed the narrative.
	I don't think that the Internet is as...
	Useful, as you put it, because we have the effect of what happened to Twitter, for example.
	The government has enormous programs and energy operating to control the internet and to control what can be said, you know, and the Twitter files showed that.
	It's quite frightening.
	For the first time, See, there was much more freedom back during the print and TV era of information than there is now, because now they can cancel you, they can turn you off,
	they can ban you, and they can even, as they did with the Twitter files, and as they're doing with other social media, force you to support only the narrative and to block Any alternative explanation.
	And look at all the trouble Musk is in, because when he took over, he said, well, that stops now.
	And he gave the Twitter files to Tayabi, and the story started getting out about how the United States government was using social media to control the narrative, to spread lies, to suppress truth.
	They're doing this across the board.
	They attack individual sites, for example, Videre, an immigration site.
	There's a huge effort to close them down.
	There are all kinds of fake lawsuits against them brought by New York, just like the ones against Trump.
	And so the government now is active in suppressing information in a way it never was before.
	What would happen, for example, in the Reagan administration, the CIA would hand a story or a leak to the Washington Post.
	And then the Washington Post would print the story.
	And that would be the way the CIA was trying to control or influence the narrative.
	But today, it's much worse.
	And I think that if it continues, they'll simply close down everything.
	I mean, they'll close down Rumble.
	They'll close everything down.
	So, I think the truth is more vulnerable today, not less vulnerable.
	Though, for now, you're right.
	We have alternative ways of getting information out.
	Well, I would just add to that, Craig, that there are some really interesting innovations in decentralized information distribution that I think may surprise all of us in how effective they are.
	I've interviewed many of those pioneers here where they are peer-to-peer information systems, such as Bastion, for example, or Cordal, which have no central servers, can't be seized, can't be shut down, and don't require domain names.
	That's fine.
	That's good news.
	I'm glad to hear it.
	Yeah, I mean, there are some really clever people working on solutions to keep information free.
	But you're right.
	The government is doing everything it can to control the Internet right now and also to label any questions disinformation.
	So or anti-Semitism, as the case is now.
	Right.
	So if you say, wow, Israel shouldn't bomb children to death.
	Oh, you're an anti-Semite.
	Really?
	How did that leap get made?
	Well, I think they're wearing out the term antisemite in...
	What it really means is somebody who hates Jews.
	It doesn't mean that you criticize a government policy.
	Right.
	I mean, you can criticize the American government policy without being called anti-American, but you can't do that in Israel or to Israel.
	Now, you raised the question earlier of Ukraine and Russia and the neocons.
	I said I thought something different was going on there.
	Do you want to go back to that?
	Yes, please.
	All right.
	Well, you have to remember that the United States government, in fact, the whole world was surprised by the collapse of the Soviet Union.
	It was a total surprise.
	No one expected, least of all the CIA. And despite the popular conservative opinion, it was never the aim of the Reagan administration to defeat the Soviet Union or to collapse it.
	The only aim we had was to end the Cold War.
	Reagan said over and over, our intent is not to win it, it's to end it.
	We don't want these nuclear weapons hanging over our heads the rest of our life.
	It's just not sensible.
	And so what collapsed the Soviet Union, we had nothing to do with.
	People don't even know this because the conservatives were anxious to make a claim that they had won.
	What collapsed the Soviet Union was that the Politburo, the hardline elements in the Soviet government, had placed President Gorbachev under house arrest.
	They arrested the President of the Soviet Union, and this is what led to the uproar and Yeltsin climbing on the tank and the collapse of the Soviet government.
	So, it was a huge surprise.
	Well, The neoconservatives instantly seized on it.
	They said, well, finally, the only check on American unilateralism has removed itself.
	So instantly, Wolfowitz penned this doctrine.
	It's called the Wolfowitz Doctrine.
	Oh boy, yeah, here we go.
	And he says that the principal goal Of American foreign policy is to prevent the rise of any country that can serve as a check on American unilateralism.
	So, this was the policy.
	Now, when he announced that, Yeltsin was in power, and Yeltsin was an American puppet.
	Essentially, the United States had control of Russia.
	Now, when Yeltsin retired, he picked Putin.
	And everyone in the United States and the government assumed that this was a continuation of Yeltsin.
	And the neoconservatives were focused in the Middle East on their wars.
	You know, they had Iraq, they had Afghanistan and Libya, they were preparing to go into Syria until the Russians stopped them, and they weren't paying any attention.
	And the whole world was surprised again in 2007 when Putin announced at the Munich Security Conference the end Of American unilateralism.
	He says, no more.
	It's no longer a unipolar world.
	We're here, and we represent our interests, and it has to be respected.
	And this was a huge shock.
	And the neoconservatives said, oh my God, we weren't paying attention.
	How are we going to get this country back on the reservation?
	And that's when they started pouring money into Ukraine.
	You may remember Victoria Nuland was on It was at a conference, and it was televised, and she said, we put $5 billion in Ukraine to prepare the situation for us.
	And then in 2014, we had the coup.
	Well, the purpose of this was to create difficulties for Putin at home.
	And maybe undermine or use it to encourage opposition.
	You see, the Russian government was kind of gullible and insouciant, and it thought that since communism was gone, we would all work together now and be friends and get along, more or less.
	And they weren't prepared for Washington to come at them the way they did.
	And of course, Ukraine is a hodgepodge.
	The Donbass region, where all the fighting has been, and that's what the fighting is about, Donbass, this is former territory of the Russian province of the Soviet Union.
	It was stuck there by communists for various reasons.
	And also Crimea.
	Crimea was stuck there by Khrushchev.
	Basically, administrative reasons.
	And these are all Russian people.
	They're not Ukrainian.
	And so...
	But this...
	Yes?
	I'm sorry to interrupt, but...
	Putin's observations in 2007 were absolutely correct.
	I would say that the unipolar worldview is a delusion.
	I mean, it did exist since post-World War II. No one could compete with America's manufacturing dominance and its world reserve currency status.
	As you well know, I know you've written about this as well, but just yesterday the United Arab Emirates announced that they were no longer selling oil in dollars.
	And China is outproducing the U.S. Navy by a factor, I think, 200 to 1 in terms of its naval production capability right now because of the number of port facilities that China has.
	You know, it's producing aircraft carriers.
	Now, they're not as technologically advanced, not even close to the USS Ford-class carriers, but they are larger in numbers.
	And so the unipolarism is dead, I would say, but I'm curious what you think about that.
	Well, it doesn't matter what you and I think.
	It's what the neoconservatives think.
	Yeah.
	Because they're in charge of the foreign policy.
	Right.
	And they haven't given up on it.
	And they still think that they can undermine Russia and that they can undermine China.
	And they are doing their best.
	They're trying to do both.
	And so that's what the Ukrainian situation was all about, and that's what Taiwan is all about now.
	It's a way of creating frictions And in a way of, they hope, making Asian countries afraid of these frictions and they might spill over onto them and thereby cooperate less or less rapidly with China and its Silk Road and all of its other schemes.
	So, it's not given up and this is the real danger because I've criticized, or not really criticized, I've just pointed out that Putin, being a statesman, tries to avoid conflict.
	And that's highly admirable.
	But the neoconservatives see that as irresolution.
	Lack of confidence.
	Fear, maybe.
	They misinterpret his stance.
	And so they keep upping the provocations.
	Right.
	See?
	And I keep saying, look, in the end, you're going to cause the conflict you're trying to avoid.
	And before it reaches that point, the Russians and the Chinese need to put their foot down really hard.
	So that people see they're not irresolute, they're not scared, they're not hesitant in order to stop these provocations because at some point they reach a point where it just explodes.
	So I think that remains a bad danger.
	I think the danger of nuclear war remains.
	Because both the Chinese, I mean, the Chinese are more outspoken about it, but they don't do things.
	And Putin hardly says anything and does nothing.
	So that, I think, encourages the neoconservatives and encourages more provocations.
	You see, what would have stopped this in 2014?
	Putin should have simply occupied Kyiv and just stopped it right there.
	Well, he may have said, well, if I do that, they'll say I'm rebuilding the Soviet Empire and that'll work against us diplomatically.
	All of Europe will fall for it.
	Other countries will fall for it.
	Central Asia may get worried we're coming after Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, and China may get worried, and so I better not do that.
	I can see that's the way you would think.
	But the minute the Ukrainians started attacking the Russian areas in Donbass, he should have intervened.
	Instead, he waited eight years while he built the Ukrainian army.
	And he didn't intervene until we were on the verge of unleashing this army on the two independent republics, you know, Luhansk and Donatsk.
	They were the two independent republics that declared themselves, took Russia forever to recognize them.
	He did it at the last minute and sent in the troops.
	Well, he never intended to invade Ukraine.
	He's never made any effort to conquer Ukraine.
	The effort was to drive the Ukrainians out of the Russian areas.
	That's all he's ever tried to do.
	And so that's what led up to February 22nd, then 2022, as you're saying, when the, what's it called, the Duma in Russia voted for the recognition of Luhansk and Donetsk and then unleashed a special military operation.
	I'm glad you provided that context.
	It's really critical to understand.
	But what I want to ask you that's related to all of this is I like how you explained that the de-escalation posture of Russia may be misinterpreted by the West.
	And I agree with that assessment, but the West has also traditionally, since post-World War II, it has used economic sanctions as a very effective weapon.
	The Treasury Department, where you served, has of course been a big part of this, and with the Department of State, but using sanctions effectively to coerce nations or to influence nations.
	And those sanctions now, what Russia has proven is that the sanctions now have tremendously less And the more the world moves away from the dollar and embraces BRICS currencies, these economic sanctions become increasingly irrelevant.
	So I'd like your thoughts on, is America losing the power it once had to wield economic sanctions as a weapon of geopolitical influence?
	Yes, it's losing power.
	Let me first say, though, I don't think these sanctions were ever effective, and certainly never against Russia.
	In fact, they were a great godsend to Russia.
	See, what the sanctions did, it destroyed globalism.
	So we should be very thankful for the sanctions.
	Interesting, yeah.
	It just completely destroyed globalism.
	And, of course, it gave the United States a high rate of inflation that we're still suffering under.
	But the reason sanctions were effective on other small countries, Latin American countries, or wherever they might, African or whatever they may have done, Is it denied access to credit, to loans.
	They couldn't go and get an IMF loan or a World Bank loan or a loan from Chase Manhattan or Barclays Bank in England.
	It constrained them financially because they couldn't get their hands on hard currencies through loans.
	And that's why they were effective.
	Well, the Russians didn't need the loans.
	They could advance their own development by expanding their own credit.
	And they didn't know that at first, but they discovered it.
	I told them that, and Michael Hudson told them that, and they finally said, oh yeah, we're right, we don't need foreign loans to...
	We don't have to peg the ruble to the dollar?
	Yeah.
	But you see, they had been schooled by the American neoliberal economists that I regard as junk economists.
	That's what Michael Hudson calls them.
	He actually wrote a book called Junk Economists.
	They're all junk economists.
	The American neoliberal economists haven't a clue about anything.
	And they had schooled the Russians, and the Russians were thereby captive of false ideas.
	Well, the sanctions Got rid of that.
	It made them realize that globalism was a technique that the United States used to control other countries.
	And they realized that they could finance their own development and that they realized they needed to be self-dependent.
	They need to be independent of reliance on foreign trade.
	So the sanctions is one of the main sources of the growing strength of Russia, of the Russian Federation, because it wised them up in all the ways they needed to be wised up.
	Wow.
	And so this helps explain the fact that they have now very high output of military munitions and the military industry strength of Russia surpasses all of Western Europe at this point.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Not just in quality, but in quantity.
	Yes, and I mean in the aggregate of Western Europe.
	At the moment, this present moment, if Russia came across the border, NATO would collapse.
	They had ammunition, no weapons, the troops are no good.
	They simply couldn't function as a fighting force.
	That's extraordinary.
	Yeah, it's really extraordinary.
	You know, the Germans have said over and over, we haven't got anything to arm our own army with.
	Not that they have much of an army.
	And so...
	The same is true in the United Kingdom.
	I mean, they're out of ammo, out of men, hardly have any navy.
	I mean...
	And so are we.
	We don't have any ammo either.
	And we can't recruit.
	Right.
	Right.
	None of the services can meet their quotas.
	It's ridiculous.
	And this is why I'm concerned about the provocations of Russia and China, because the only way we can fight effectively is with nuclear weapons.
	Right, and yet that is what's projected by the Western media onto Putin, saying that Putin might become desperate and launch nukes.
	But you're saying, and I agree with you, that that's actually what the West is likely to do at some point.
	That's what, yeah.
	You see, all of this talk about, you know, the whole doing the so-called Ukrainian-Russian conflict, the British press was the worst.
	Russia will be defeated in the morning.
	It'll be defeated this afternoon.
	It's lost the war.
	This went on for two years.
	I'm sitting thinking, who in hell could write such stupid things?
	Well, the whole conflict was presented as a Russian invasion of Ukraine that had been stopped.
	Well, it was never an invasion of Ukraine.
	Putin calls it a limited military intervention.
	It's only in the Russian areas.
	If Russia wanted to, they could take Ukraine by Monday morning.
	They don't want it.
	What do they want it for?
	It's busted.
	It's broke.
	It's good for nothing.
	They don't need it.
	They're just not going to let it be in NATO. It won't be.
	And now even the European countries are saying that.
	And, you know, Kissinger made that point over and over.
	They mustn't put it in NATO. And so I think that the notion that this is a stalemate, which I hear every day, oh, it's a stalemate now.
	Oh, I hear that too.
	It's absurd.
	It failed.
	It's a stalemate.
	It's not a stalemate.
	It's not Putin's intention to conquer Ukraine.
	It's to evict them from Donbas, from the Russian areas.
	But now, Craig, there's something else really important to address in this.
	I'd like your response, which is the fact that the economic devastation of Western European countries, Germany in particular, The cost of that, because the United States wants to defeat Russia or perhaps, you know, exploit it, pillage it for its resources and is using Ukraine as a proxy nation and the U.S. Navy destroyed the Nord Stream pipeline, cutting off Germany from Gazprom gas.
	But the Western Europeans are paying the price for America's failed geopolitical policies.
	Is that not true?
	Yes, of course.
	Well, the Western Europeans are puppets.
	They're puppets of the United States.
	You remember the book, the German editor, the biggest newspaper in Germany.
	His name was something like Udo Ulfaki, something like that.
	He wrote this book called Baut or Purchased Journalism.
	And he said that he himself was purchased by the CIA and that there was not a significant journalist in Europe that was not on the CIA's payroll.
	And years ago, it so happened, I was a young man and it was the Nixon administration and my My economics PhD dissertation chairman was the Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs.
	And one day he sent for me.
	And they took me up to his office in the Pentagon.
	The office was about the size of a football field.
	And he said, I want you to go to Vietnam and take over the aid programs.
	Well, this was right at the end, and you could see it was all over with.
	He said that the aid's not effective because they steal it all, and so our efforts to We help them that way and fail.
	So we need somebody honest we can trust to go there and you take over.
	And I got to thinking, I said, if I go there and they're stealing it and I try to stop it, they're going to kill me.
	And I also thought it was too late to be able to do anything.
	And so I turned it down.
	But I used the opportunity.
	I asked him, I said, how is it?
	We get all of Europe to always do exactly what we want.
	He said, money.
	I said, oh, you mean foreign aid?
	No.
	No.
	We give the leaders bagfuls of money.
	Right.
	They belong to us.
	They report to us.
	That's what he said.
	And he didn't approve of this.
	There was nothing he could do about it.
	It was just the way it was before he got there.
	It would be the way while he was there.
	It would be the way when he's gone.
	He couldn't do anything about it.
	But he was very honest.
	He told me, he said, they are not independent countries.
	We own them.
	Well, that was in the 70s.
	Now imagine how much more owned they are now.
	They even submit to having the economies wiped out.
	You know, what's going to happen to German industry where they can't get any fuel?
	Think about the magnificent cars, the BMWs, the Porsches, the Mercedes.
	All kinds of Americans have these cars because they're highly dependable.
	Many of them are enjoying the drive, and all of a sudden you can't get parts.
	Well, there was a video of Joe Biden standing right next to Chancellor Schultz of Germany, where Biden says, we promise we're going to make sure Nord Stream is completely destroyed.
	And Schultz just stood there like a puppet.
	Yeah.
	Sacrificing his domestic economy and the German people for the aims of the West to destroy their pipeline of affordable energy?
	I couldn't believe it.
	And everything else.
	You know, we run the education system.
	We control the textbooks they're allowed to use.
	This is why they're all indoctrinated and feel so guilty.
	Wow.
	Still being indoctrinated.
	The kids grow up.
	Being indoctrinated.
	It's an amazing thing, but it's true all over Europe.
	And it's true in France.
	Look, what did we do?
	Remember, the French had a shipping contract to build helicopter carriers for the Russians.
	And we forced them to void the contract.
	So they had to pay the Russians billions of dollars, close the shipyards, throw huge numbers of people out of work.
	You remember that?
	No, I don't recall that.
	Yeah, we did that to them.
	Also, the big French bank.
	I forget the name of it, but the big French bank, our banks wanted its business.
	So they got together with Washington and they said, look, we can make a case that they are violating the sanctions on Iran.
	And so you can damage them with Punishments and fines and then we can encroach in their business areas because it'll weaken them.
	And sure enough, that's exactly what we did.
	We brought some kind of fake sanctions case against the big French bank and the French government didn't defend it.
	And so the bank had to pay a fine equal to its annual profits.
	So then the big New York banks got the business they wanted away from the French and they had financed somebody who was dealing with Iran.
	I'm sorry to interrupt, Craig, but we're almost out of time.
	And I don't want to give you time to mention your website and how your donors support it as well.
	But just one final comment based on what you just said.
	This whole idea that America runs around the world with a baseball bat kneecapping all the other nations and then calls it free market competition.
	And this has got to stop.
	I mean, we've got to succeed based on merit, not how much we can destroy everybody else.
	You know, we have destroyed Western Europe's economy by taking out Nord Stream.
	And we have enhanced exports of liquid natural gas from U.S. exporters.
	Of course, what a coincidence.
	Well, of course, we're no longer based on merit.
	You know, all of the big corporations have announced they won't hire white people.
	That's right.
	You can't, you know, your admission to special schools or elite universities no longer depend on merit.
	They depend on racial corners.
	That's right.
	So, there's no longer merit.
	Now, what's doing us, I know we're out of time, but what's doing us in will be the loss of the dollar as a reserve currency.
	Briefly, the American power since World War II has been based on the fact That the dollar being the reserve currency means the entire world is anxious to hold our debt because our debt, our dollar-denominated treasury bonds, are the reserves of the banking system.
	So when our debt goes up, it just means the reserves of the banking system in every country goes up.
	So they're delighted to buy our debt, our budget deficit debt and our foreign trade debt.
	Now, if you lose this role of reserve currency, they don't have any need for your debt and they don't want it.
	That's right.
	All of a sudden, your currency collapses, inflation goes through the roof, there's nothing the Fed can do about it, and you become poor overnight.
	And that's the economic threat that we face.
	The sanctions are driving other countries away from using the dollar as reserve currency.
	And you see how hard the BRICS are working and the Chinese and the Russians to make transactions without the dollar.
	And when Saudi Arabia announced that they were taking other currencies in lieu of the dollar, there went the petrodollar.
	No, I would describe it as the last chapter of the dollar as the world reserve currency because there's no even moral standing of the United States that we had after World War II. Again,
	the U.S. is just kneecapping all the other nations and bribing their leaders in order to commit basically their own national suicide in order to keep America stronger relative to that.
	Now, let's save ourselves from the patriots.
	When we say the U.S., what we mean is the powerful, material, private interests.
	They use the government for their agendas because the government is based on campaign contributions.
	So, it's not that we're saying the American government is doing this because it's evil and so on.
	It's being made to do this by powerful private interest on whose contributions the government gets elected, and therefore they are responsible to their contributors and not to the American people.
	Well stated.
	So, you know, people have got to understand that.
	We mean the U.S. It's a short-term phrase, but if we keep seeing that, all the conservatives will think we're against America.
	Oh, no, no, no, we're not anti-American.
	The government can't represent America because these private interests or the Israel lobby or the military security complex or big farmer, somebody is pulling their strings and all these people are pulling strings.
	So the government has to respond to all of these strings because that's where the campaign money comes from that elects the House, the Senate, and the President.
	That's right.
	Now, you have an American flag behind you, but what is the other flag that you have behind you with the blue sun?
	That's the Treasury flag.
	Okay, okay.
	I did not recognize that flag.
	See, when you're an Assistant Secretary, you leave office, they give you the flags of your office.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay, great.
	Now, as I said, I want to give you a chance to mention your website, paulcraigroberts.org, but you're also donor-supported, correct?
	Yes, just donor-supported.
	No adverts, no big money, no foundations.
	I mean, the foundations wouldn't support me.
	So what are the ways that people can donate to support your work?
	They can go to the Donate page on my website and use PayPal or Stripe.
	It used to be they could send it directly to the bank, but the bank now has stopped this service because they're afraid of money laundering I'm going to have to find a way for people who want to do it by mail.
	A lot of people don't like Stripe.
	They don't like PayPal.
	They don't trust them.
	And PayPal certainly has a bad reputation about disapproving of somebody and holding their funds.
	Yes, they do.
	So, but right now, it's only two I haven't figured out.
	I probably just have to use my personal address for them to send, but as long as they don't make the check payable to me, and they make it payable to the Institute for Political Economy, and then I'll just have to collect up the checks and endorse them and put them in the account.
	It used to, it happened automatically, go directly to the bank, but That was stopped about a month ago.
	Oh, wow.
	Yes, I see your announcement on that.
	Okay.
	Well, again, the website, folks, is paulcraigroberts.org, and we also republish many of the stories or columns from paulcraigroberts.org.
	And I want to thank you, Mr.
	Roberts, for all that you do and for taking the time to talk with us today.
	It's an honor.
	Well, it's a great pleasure to talk to you.
	It's not all that many intelligent people to talk to.
	Yeah, we've all noticed that.
	That is true.
	And I think unwinding what's happening in the world today, you can't be just given a list of questions and be some bobble-headed journalist who doesn't know history.
	You literally have to spend decades and decades understanding the geopolitical dynamics in order to make sense of what's happening.
	Yeah.
	And you have to be able to speak the truth, and the journalists can't.
	That's right.
	They're at risk.
	Their editor's at risk.
	It's not like Reagan.
	No.
	No.
	Reagan is dearly missed these days, that's for sure.
	Right.
	Well, thank you so much, Mr.
	Roberts.
	It's always an honor, and have a great day, and we'll talk again soon.
	Okay, Mike, I look forward to it.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	All right, take care.
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