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Nov. 21, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Brandon from Shield Arms reveals folding 9mm carbine / pistol...
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Alright, welcome to today's interview here on BrightTown.com.
Mike Adams joining you from my home studio today because we're talking about gear today, preparedness and survival gear.
And my special guest today is Brandon from ShieldArms.com.
Now, Shield Arms, I consider them kind of a partner with us because they've provided so much incredible gear to so many people.
And they don't compensate me, they don't pay me to do these interviews, but they do provide me gear for evaluation, which I greatly appreciate.
And I've had very positive experiences with that gear.
So Brandon, welcome to the show today.
Thank you for joining me.
I really look forward to what you have to show us today.
Well, thanks for having me, Mike.
It's great to have you here.
And I also want to thank you for providing the discount code for our audience.
The discount code is Ranger.
Good for everything at ShieldArms.com, correct?
Yes, sir.
Okay, fantastic.
So let's start with what actually got me initially interested in Shield Arms was your folding stocks, your patented folding stock system for AR-15 pistols and rifles.
Can you talk a little bit about that and the success you've had with that?
And we'll get to mags and things like that later, but start with the folding stocks.
Sure, yeah.
I've got an example here.
A lot of folks are I'm sort of familiar with the adapter approach, right?
AR-15s do not fold sort of out of the box.
And so some companies came along, they made adapters that you would then retrofit your gun in order to allow the buttstock to fold properly.
We came along and said, look, we think there's a better way of doing this.
We built the folding mechanism into the lower receiver, and what we've come up with is a sort of more low profile, lighter weight, and more cost-effective approach.
And so that was our first sort of commercial success, if you will, was what we call the folding lower receiver, which this button here will allow the buttstock to fold.
And you can see that I have the bolt retracted, so that's not going to work.
So send the bolt forward, and then, of course, your buttstock can then fold.
I don't know how well that's shown up on camera.
Yeah, we can see it.
Good.
So, yeah, that was our first sort of commercial success.
And the product that kind of, I don't know, put us on the map, if you will.
Yeah. .
Okay, and the reason I like that is because, you know, it makes it more portable.
So, of course, I always encourage our viewers to respect your local laws.
Obviously, it's your responsibility to check your laws.
But here in Texas, it's very easy to have a folding AR like that in your vehicle where it's legal so that you can, you know, defend yourself against some road rager or something.
And it becomes much shorter, obviously, when you fold it than the full-size rifle.
So it's just easier to maneuver in the vehicle.
It's worth noting, however, that it doesn't...
I mean, technically, you could fire one round from that position, although I know you don't recommend that.
I've done that on camera before.
I saw you do it.
Yeah, I did it just to see if it could be done.
But I wasn't putting my face behind that, by the way, just because it's not my first rodeo with firearms.
But...
Technically, you need to fold the stock back into place before you begin to put rounds down range, correct?
Correct.
There's kind of a misconception with folding guns.
I think video games and Hollywood has sort of led people astray.
Whether it's an AK, it doesn't matter what the gun is, you really don't want to be firing guns from the hip in this position.
It's not a very accurate...
You know, you're responsible for every round that comes out of this gun, right?
So you need to make sure that what you're aiming at is what you're hitting at, you know?
So we tell people, even if the gun didn't require it to be folded, you should be folding the gun out, shouldering the weapon properly, and then making sure that the rounds are going where they're designed to go, so...
Yeah, absolutely.
I completely agree.
Especially, you know, those rounds, I mean, the range of a 5.56 round, it's a lot more than just 300 yards.
If you're angling it up, it can travel 800, 900 yards.
You don't know where that's going.
So, you know, firing from the hip is just a Hollywood trope.
Nobody does that.
Yeah.
Nobody who wants to actually hit anything that is...
Okay.
So you've got that available.
Now, I do have to ask you, the ATF was recently smacked down a little bit with its arm brace rule.
Yep.
At least a temporary stay, but it's a nationwide stay issued, I think, by a Texas judge, if I'm not mistaken.
How does that affect your ability to retail...
The AR-15 pistols with arm braces, do you currently have those available or you're waiting?
Nope, we do.
We were cleared by our attorneys to go ahead and resume selling.
So yeah, pistol braces are back on the menu as of today.
And from what we understand...
As of today?
Wow.
Well, it's a few days ago at the time of recording.
But yeah, we do have them available today.
Our understanding is that this is...
It's a stay, but it's nationwide.
And it sounds like it's not going to be temporary.
I guess we'll all have to just wait and see.
But it sounds like...
This one might stick.
So, again, not a lawyer.
That's what we understand.
Yeah.
Again, I urge my viewers, check your local laws.
It's your responsibility to be in compliance.
But which arm braces do you use?
Are you using SB Tactical arm braces?
SB Tactical.
Yep.
Those are the best.
Okay.
Okay, great, great.
And can you show us one of the...
Do you happen to have one sitting around there?
I don't.
No, all the guns in here are either SBRs or rifles, so...
Okay, all right.
No worries.
They're available on the website, though, and, you know, the cool thing about SB Tactical, they really came along and found a niche, we'll call it, but they...
They weren't designed to be shoulder fired, but if you were to shoulder fire them, they do function much like a stock is.
And so that's the thing that the ATF is sort of upset about.
Even though the SB Tactical didn't design them to be shoulder fired, it was more of a brace for the arm.
You certainly could, and that's sort of the crux of the matter.
Well, let me chime in because quite a bit of our audience here watching today are women.
And many women, because they typically don't have the same upper body muscle mass as men, I found that a lot of women really need an AR-15 pistol with a brace in order to really effectively use that in self-defense, whereas I found that a lot of women really need an AR-15 pistol with a brace in order to really effectively use that in self-defense, whereas a full-length 16-inch rifle with Are you hearing that kind of feedback as well?
Yeah, I mean, I think they originally designed that product for folks who had injuries.
I don't know that they necessarily had women in mind.
Yeah, I can understand where you're coming from on that.
What I will say is that the AR-15 is a wonderful platform, and you can pretty much dress it up or down to do just about anything you need it to do.
So whether that's long-range shooting or that's a small, compact, little 9mm gun that fits in a bag, the AR-15 platform is very versatile, and you can outfit your weapon system To suit your need, which is another reason why the folks on the left want to get rid of those because they are very effective.
Yeah, good point.
Now, you mentioned 9mm there, so you also have 9mm carbines, and I assume you have them in pistol format with arm braces as well now?
Correct, yep.
All right.
What's the model number on that?
SA-9.
SA-9.
Can you show us that?
I can in SBR format.
So we've got...
Well, here's one that's painted a little nicely.
Yeah, so this is 9mm.
Obviously, when this thing folds down, it gets pretty small, and this will fit.
You can have this thing in just about any of your backpacks.
Of course, obey your local laws, make sure that you guys are legal, but here in Montana, there's nothing wrong with having this in pistol format in your backpack.
You know, in Texas, it'll be the same.
So, yeah, that's the beauty of the folding.
And then the magazines.
Yeah, this is a Glock.
So it takes Glock mags?
This is a Glock-compatible system.
But yeah, that's the beauty of these little 9mm guns.
This is an 8-inch barrel.
You'd never know as small as it is.
But yeah, they just take standard Glock mags.
Okay, so a question I have for you then is in terms of, let's say, the Glock 43X mags here, which you also have your mags, do those work in your SA9s?
Coming soon.
We'll have an SA9. Yeah.
Coming soon, we're going to have an SA9 that's compatible with our S15 magazines, and then there's longer versions of the S15 coming.
So if you're a fan of the stick mag, stay tuned.
Okay.
All right.
Very cool.
With that, actually, let's talk about magazines because what else your company is really famous for.
By the way, you got me back into Glocks.
It was Shield Arms that converted me back to Glocks.
Let me back up.
I carried a Glock 19 for many, many years.
And sometimes a Glock 17 around the ranch.
But the polymer mags became a problem because I carried every day, and I encourage everybody to carry every day, that one time when I had to use my firearm against a snake, a rattlesnake, which requires some pistol skills, by the way, to hit a snake.
I fired one round and the magazine dropped out.
And it was a factory Glock mag.
And what had happened is that the retention indent on the polymer mag had worn out over time as it was rattling around on my hip as I carried it for X number of years.
And that made me realize, oh my gosh, This could have been a disaster if I had needed it in self-defense.
I would have had one round and that's it.
So to me, that was a real failure of the polymer mags.
So I went to SIG at that time and I carried SIGs for a number of years, like the P320. And then I got a little bit freaked out by the fact that the P320 doesn't have a trigger safety and it was having unintended discharges.
Even among cops who were just holstering it and then walking and then the gun would go off and shoot them, you know, in the leg or the foot or the butt.
That didn't sound good.
So when you came along and recommended the Glock 43X with your steel mags, I switched over to that and now I love it and that's what I carry every day.
So that's my story.
Tell us about your steel mags.
Yeah, well that's great to hear.
Thank you for that.
So Glock came out with the 43X and the 48 pistols.
Those guns ship with a 10 round magazine, which isn't great for the form factor.
It's certainly not bad, but it's not as many rounds as we thought those guns should hold.
And so we developed a 15 round magazine.
That fits in the same footprint.
It doesn't extend out past the end of the gun, and so it's still the same concealed carry package you would get.
You just get 50% more ammo.
And yeah, it's a steel magazine, and then that does require what we recommend as a steel mag catch, but that's the only modification to the gun.
You swap out your mag catch, which is about a two-minute job, and then you can run steel mags.
So question, why wouldn't Glock have a 15-round mag if, I mean, you've been able to figure it out?
How come they didn't do it?
Well, we used to tell people it's because we're just that smart, but people kind of figured out we're not.
So that joke kind of played itself out.
But the honest answer is Glock could if they wanted to.
The problem is that they've invested heavily.
This is a guess.
I don't obviously know anybody at Glock, but They've invested heavily in the way that they make magazines, which is a steel core with polymer overmolded.
And they have spent the last 30, 40 years telling people that this is the best way of making a magazine.
If they were to then switch for just one of their guns...
You know, that probably wouldn't be the best messaging from a product standpoint.
That's all a guess.
I don't know Gaston.
I don't know anybody there, so I don't know why they don't, but that's my guess.
So there's something about the way they make mags that prohibits 15 rounds?
It's just the geometry they have?
Well, it is for the form factor, so not the geometry of the magazine itself, but if you're trying to fit it in this mag well, there isn't enough room to have a steel magazine, put polymer over it all the way around, and have it still hold 15 rounds.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, their magazine is a single stack magazine where the rounds in the magazine are essentially stacked in a column, a single column.
This is a double stack magazine where the rounds are staggered, which allows it to, of course, fit more.
So when we stripped off the polymer, we had more room in the magwell.
Spreading the magazine out this way helps you because you can fit more rounds in there.
Spreading the magazine out this way actually hurts you.
And so we've done some things with our patented design that allows the magazine to still function and to hold the same position in the magwell without it moving around and still hold 15 rounds.
Now, I call that magazine, which I have here, I call this, I mean, this is just my nomenclature, I call it a one and a half stack mag.
Technically, yes.
Because it's staggered, right?
Yeah.
And it's very thin.
And the thing I like about this Glock 43X, and this also applies to our women viewers here today, is that the Glock 43X is much easier to grip if you have smaller hands than big manly hands.
I even prefer it now over the Glock 19 because it's thinner and it prints less, the Glock 43X. It's easier to conceal.
And with your mags, Brandon, from Shield Arms, now it has the capacity that I'm used to.
Now, Sig, of course, use the same geometry that you're talking about with their magazines on their P365 to give it, I think, 10 plus 1, which is quite remarkable for how small that firearm is.
And I'm a fan of that gun, except, again, I don't know when it's going to go off.
But back to Glock.
It seems like in this competitive marketplace, I can't imagine how Glock could say 10 rounds is enough in this form factor when there are SIGs and there's M&P and there are other products out there that can hold 15 like what you're doing with your magazines.
It seems like pretty big oversight on Glock's part.
Yeah, I can't comment on that.
We agree with you, of course, because we made the magazine.
But what I can tell you is that prior to our magazine coming out, that gun was pretty much dead on arrival.
Nobody was excited about it.
Nobody was gearing up for it.
Today, with our magazine on the market, that gun is the number one selling pistol in America.
So...
You do the math.
Yeah.
So we try not to take all the credit because it is a good gun, but we do feel like we had something to do with that.
Well, that's really interesting.
So do you publicly talk about how many of these magazines you've sold?
We try not to, no.
A lot.
We've sold a bunch.
All right.
We'll leave it at a bunch.
I wasn't too happy, of course, with the stock Glock trigger.
And so far, I've just replaced the trigger bar with the ghost bar.
And that improved it a little bit.
It's still not where I want it.
So I may have to do something a little more dramatic.
What do you recommend?
I mean, the stock trigger, even...
The way you sell it stock is too harsh for my taste, that's for sure.
Yeah.
Without getting into the geometries and the mechanical engineering side of things, there is some variance in Glock pistols.
You will pick up four or five, and you'll have a different trigger pull between those different guns.
Some of my favorite drop-in triggers are made by Agency Arms, agencyarms.com.
You can get a trigger from them that has the same sort of OEM safety performance, but you get a much cleaner break with way less of that grittiness that you can sometimes feel with a Glock trigger.
My business partner, Seth, would tell you, look, if your Glock trigger isn't where you want it, go out and shoot 10,000 more rounds and it'll smooth right out.
Right.
I know.
Yeah, I know that's a little bit expensive, but...
Yeah, that's the thing these days.
You know, ammo isn't what it used to be.
I mean, yeah, I used to go out and I would go through 500 rounds of 9mm in one training session, and these days, can't really justify that.
No, it's hard for anyone.
We buy ammo by the pallet here for our testing purposes, and it's just, even at that bulk pricing, it's crazy.
Yeah, absolutely.
Alright, so it's important for our viewers to know then that magazines are not interchangeable between the Glock 43X and Glock 19s or 17s or other fatter, wider Glock models.
Correct.
If you buy one of our S15 magazines, these are compatible with the Glock 43X and the Glock 48.
There is also a Glock 43, which is a skinnier platform that's It's a true single stack, skinnier gun.
We do make a magazine for that gun as well, but that one only holds nine rounds because the magwell is thinner.
I see.
Okay.
Now, in addition to your steel magazines, which, again, I'm a convert now, this is what I carry.
And I have full faith in your mags and in the Glock 43X. I'm liking it a lot.
Thank you.
In addition to that and the folding stock ARs, you also provide quite a bit of other gear.
You've got, well, you've got a...
Fanny pack, can I call it that?
That's designed for concealed carry?
Yeah.
Can you show us that?
Yeah, I'd be happy to.
So, fanny pack carry can be a little bit controversial.
I happen to be a fan, especially in the winter months, depending on how you're dressed.
The problem with your traditional fanny pack carry is that it's slow.
You know, you put your gun inside of a bag and you have to run a zipper and get a hold of the gun in order to get it out.
I'm not the fastest guy in the world to begin with, so I don't need any sort of things slowing me down, right?
And so what we did was we came up with what we call our junk sack.
It's our take on a fanny pack that is geared for concealed carry.
What we've done is replace your traditional zippered pouch with a set of rare earth magnets in the top and then hook and loop closure on the sides So that when the gun is in here, it's not coming open when you don't want it to.
You can go and do burpees.
You can go do a CrossFit workout.
This thing's not going to come open on you.
But then when you want it to come open, it's got this big pull tab here, and you've got this top enclosure that's very easy to catch with your hand.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
We've got videos of our guys running these, and they can go as fast or even faster than clearing your cover garment, getting your gun out.
This is actually faster because you're just grabbing this thing in the front and pulling down and then getting your gun out.
Okay.
All right.
That makes sense.
So do people...
So do people typically open it?
If they're a right-handed shooter, they open it with their left hand, and then they grab the pistol with their right hand?
Okay.
Yeah, the translation works pretty well for training, right?
Because if you've been trained, Mike, you know that if you're concealed carrying, you're clearing a cover garment, whatever that cover garment is.
So the first thing you're going to do with your offhand is clear that cover garment.
Get it out of the way and then get your firearm out.
It's the same movement instead of pulling your shirt up to get your gun out.
You're just grabbing the front of this and pulling it down to get your gun out.
Great.
And so this gives people a lot of options too in the summer, right?
When it's very difficult to conceal a firearm if you're dressed very lightly in the summer, you know, like tight shirt and shorts or whatever.
Yep.
Yep.
And, you know, fanny packs are back.
My daughter, she's 14.
She tells me that the 80s are back.
And I don't know what that means exactly.
Even though I was alive in the 80s, I'm not really sure what that means, but Apparently, fanny packs are back, so we have them at a bunch of different colors.
They kind of blend in, especially if you just get one of the plain colored ones.
Nobody knows that you're carrying a gun.
Up here in Montana, that's not super important, but I know in a lot of cities and a lot of places in America, you don't want people to know that you're carrying.
This is a great option for folks.
That's fantastic.
Okay, great.
And by the way, according to my music collection, the 80s never left.
Okay, so.
We're still in the 80s.
I want to let her know that.
Yeah, that's what I tell myself.
We're still in the 80s.
Nothing beats the 80s.
You know, the 80s were a much calmer time, I think.
Yeah, in fact, let's talk about that for a second.
You also have belts, really good heavy-duty leather gun belts.
Just quickly talk about some of the other accessories that you offer.
Sure.
You know, we do all kinds of stuff.
We have a great concealed carry belt.
It's made from a bio-thane material, which is kind of a coated nylon material that's virtually indestructible.
The buckle itself is a machined aluminum.
We make those right here in Montana.
That allows us to sell a belt that's, we say it's the last belt you'll ever buy because it's a lifetime warranty belt.
Try that with a leather belt or even a tactical nylon belt.
Eventually those will wear out.
And so, you know, I don't know.
We're big fans of them.
It's not a product that we're very well known for, but just to give you an example, we are hunters up here, and we shoot elk every year.
We have hung entire elk with our belts.
Now, they're not climbing rated.
We don't go out there and pay for the testing to get them climbing rated, but if they'll hold up an elk hanging from the barn, we know they'll hold your pants up.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, no question about that.
Okay, and then again, to our viewers, you can use discount code RANGER to save 10% off of everything that you offer at shieldarms.com.
And by the way, I don't earn anything off of anybody's use of that discount code.
It's just something that we pass along to our viewers.
And we thank you, Brandon, for making that available to give people a little bit of a discount.
Now, with that said, let's talk about the state of the world right now.
We know, I mean, our audience especially is very well informed about the fact that police have been defunded.
There are more looters than ever before in American cities.
We're watching, you know, FedEx trucks and UPS trucks and Amazon vans get looted on a regular basis.
The shoplifting is through the roof.
There are violent assaults happening, especially across blue cities, let's be honest.
And then in addition, the world is becoming more and more dangerous as well with what's happening in the Middle East, especially in tempers have flared and there's a lot of concern about domestic terrorism in the United States.
So what are your thoughts as a provider of these problem solving pieces of equipment about the safety of your customers and the American people?
That's the sort of idea behind what we do at Schill Arms.
So we make life-protecting gear, not just firearms.
We sell medical kits.
And then we also really encourage people to go out and seek out training.
Know how to use your firearm properly.
And then if you know how to make holes, then you should also know how to plug those holes.
So seek out competent instruction.
And we encourage people to carry tourniquets.
We sell EDC kits that start out with a bag, a firearm, and a medical kit.
And then there's plenty of space for you to accessorize it and sort of make it your own.
We do live in a crazy time, and what we tell people is that while we still have some semblance of rule of law, which we do have in most of America, not all of it, concealed carry is wonderful.
Make sure you do it lawfully, but concealed carry is wonderful.
When things break down, I should say if, but it's looking more like a when at this point, you are going to want a little bit more firepower than just a concealed carry pistol.
So that's why we encourage people, even if it's not from us, make sure you get some sort of a long gun and then the training on how to use it.
Yeah, really good point.
Sometimes I've even told people start with a long gun because it's much easier to use.
To use than a pistol.
I mean, pistols throw people for a loop.
I mean, people freak out.
Which eye?
You know, why am I seeing 12 versions of my iron sights in my sight picture?
But rifles are just like easy.
They are.
Yeah.
Way easier than pistols.
Yeah.
It's smart to tell people to start with that.
I have to remember that.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I think once they understand the principles of the rifle, then transitioning to a pistol, they already have some kind of a base.
And also...
Remember that the first-time shooter is very scared of the recoil of the pistol.
But since the recoil of a rifle, like an AR-15, is so much less, I mean, to you and I, Brandon, it's like, this is nothing.
I mean, we barely notice it these days, right?
But to a first-time shooter, you know, a rifle is much easier to handle that recoil than a pistol.
The pistol freaks everybody out, and that's why they always do the dipping down thing, right?
They're always like dipping down in anticipation.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
But training is key.
You know, whether you're going to start with a pistol or start with a rifle or, you know, hopefully eventually learn both, training is key.
So we're a big performance of that.
Absolutely.
Now, I'm really glad you sell an EDC kit and medical packs as well.
In my vehicle, my primary vehicle, I always travel with multiple tourniquets and first aid kits that are pretty well stocked, by the way, and blood stop gauze and blood stop powders and things like that.
Your kit, is there anything that you want to say about your medical kits?
It's your standard traumatic bleeding, so tourniquet, quick clot, you've got combat gauze, essentially things to stop a bad bleed.
It's not a kit you're going to want to rip open if you cut your finger.
Right.
Maybe throw some duct tape on that.
And then what we'll tell people is, you know, supplement.
So start with, even if it's not our kit, that's fine.
Just get some sort of a traumatic bleeding kit.
And then the training to use it, you know, where do you put a tourniquet?
Where on the body does it make sense to use quick clot?
Where do you start packing wounds and where do you not pack wounds?
All that stuff.
So training...
Please seek that out.
But then start with some sort of a traumatic bleeding kit.
Another great company out there that makes great kits is Refuge Medical.
So, you know, please don't think this is just about our stuff.
Buy somebody's kit, learn how to use it, and then supplement it to make it your own, right?
And that's when you're going to want to add things like your boo-boo kit for, you know, someone got a cut, but it's not to the level of needing quick clot, for example.
Right, right.
Yeah, I completely agree.
I took, it was a live fire, stop the bleeding training course a couple years ago that was very instructive.
And, you know, you and I, we forget that a lot of people don't know the basics.
Like, if you cut your arm and you're bleeding a lot, some people don't know you have to put the tourniquet above the Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
And then we all had to become proficient, of course, in one-handed operation of the tourniquet.
You know, strap it on, twist it, tuck it in, and, of course, write the time on the tourniquet.
If you don't write the time, then the emergency room doctors don't know how long you have before you lose the limb, right?
Yep.
Also very important.
Very, very important stuff to know.
Okay.
So, all right.
In addition to, as you say, making holes and then patching up holes, and we've talked about belts and the fanny pack, which I can't wait to sport that out jogging one day.
Anything else we should know about?
You know, we do a bunch of other stuff.
We've got a knife company.
We've got a coffee company.
We try to stay pretty busy.
We basically do the things that we like, and then we hope other folks come along for the journey.
But I think the things we're most known for, you've sort of touched on, and your audience knows a lot about knives already through you and through some of your designs.
True.
Yeah, those have been pretty cool to see.
Oh, good.
Thanks for that feedback.
We produced a batch of those Escape from L.A. knives and we couldn't keep them in stock.
Oh, I bet not.
I bet not.
It's pretty unique.
It's a pretty cool design.
I was pretty impressed.
It's, yeah, well, this show's not about my knives, but I am going to release some video about using them on the ranch in some very unique ways.
Good.
I'm looking forward to that.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
So, bottom line is, Brandon, I mean, I love the Glock 43X. Thank you for that.
And that's become my carry firearm.
I love the folding stock ARs that you have, and I'm looking forward to trying out the 9mm as well, the 9mm carbine.
And your magazines are just top-notch.
Again, your magazines brought me back to Glock.
Thank you.
So that's how good they are.
Thank you.
There's a whole bunch more coming in that arena.
We've got, for some folks, these...
Even though they're not that big a gun, this Glock 43X is just too big for some folks to reliably conceal.
And so we've got an even smaller version of this gun coming soon.
So stay tuned.
We'll make sure to get one of those out to you when those are ready.
Okay, an even smaller version of a Glock 43X? Yeah, this is kind of a sneak preview.
Oh, so it's a shorter grip and is the barrel a half inch shorter too?
Same barrel.
Is it the same?
Yeah, the whole top end is the same.
Okay.
The magazine is smaller.
Wow.
The 10 round version of the same mag.
So that reminds me, that's kind of like a thinner Glock 26 almost.
You got it.
That's exactly right.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, very cool.
Very useful.
Okay.
Yeah.
That'd be great as a backup firearm for your main carry as well.
Yep.
All right, Brandon, anything else you want to add or have we covered everything?
I think that's it.
We just really appreciate you and your audience and thanks for having me on.
And I appreciate your sort of common sense approach to preparedness.
So thank you for that.
Well, absolutely.
Thank you for providing the discount code for our audience.
Again, the code is RANGER, 10% off everything, including the firearms, correct?
Correct.
Okay, wow, that's a huge deal.
And then remember, folks, we always encourage you, you need to follow your local laws.
When you purchase firearms from Shield Arms, of course, it has to go through your FFL. And if you don't have an FFL, you've got to find one, and then you've got to go through that and do the transfer there.
And hopefully you have a concealed carry so you don't have to wait on the NICS background check system.
But, you know, obey local laws.
But most importantly, as Brandon said, Do your training.
And remember, you don't have to burn through ammo to do a lot of training.
You can do dry fire training, practicing, you know, presenting the firearm, practicing the motion of it, practicing clearing jams, reloads, all these things.
You can do it in a dry fire configuration.
Just make sure that you clear your firearm first and you're not running live rounds accidentally in your apartment complex or something.
So dry fire is, all the best shooters I know practice dry fire.
Absolutely.
Yep.
Yep.
All right, Brandon.
Well, thank you for joining us today.
We appreciate you.
Absolutely.
And folks, the website again is shieldarms.com, spelled just like it sounds, shieldarms.com, and use discount code RANGER to save 10%.
Thank you for watching today.
Take care.
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