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Thank you.
Alright, welcome to today's episode of Decentralized TV. I'm Mike Adams of Brighteon.com.
This is a very special episode.
You'll find out why in a second here.
I'm joined by my co-host, Todd Pitner.
Welcome, Todd.
Great to have you with us today.
Great seeing you, Mike.
Thank you.
Absolutely.
And I know you are super happy to meet our special guest today, who is Michael Yon.
Welcome, Michael.
Thank you, gentlemen.
I'm in Belize today, right next to the Crocodile Alley here.
Every time we interview you, you are in a different country.
I think you have the record for that.
But let me give a little background and we'll go right into it.
So for our audience, this show is about decentralized living and solutions for being free of gulags and government oppression and having self-determination.
Now, Michael, you are an international war correspondent journalist.
You have been traveling the world, sounding the alarm on so many fronts, including about the open border situation in the United States.
You get along with people everywhere.
You have this amazing knack of getting along with people, whether they're Japanese or Thai or Panamanian or wherever.
And so you've seen the world far more than most people.
I want to ask you, sir, to begin with, in terms of decentralized living, and we're going to get to some current events with you too, by the way, because I know a lot's going on in the Middle East and elsewhere, but what have you noticed about What are the safest places versus the most dangerous places in terms of personal liberty and being allowed to live the way you want to live?
Well, that's a moving target because, as you can see, our rights have been eroded in the United States, and I have spent more than half of my life out of the United States, like a lot more than half of my life, although I'm American.
I was born and raised in the United States.
It's interesting because here in Belize, I was just talking with some Mennonites and that's one of the reasons I came to Belize is because I wanted to ask them how they got here and I heard some of the Mennonites are moving over to Suriname and Peru and so I wanted to ask them why did you pick those places and why are some leaving here and that sort of thing and the reason why some of them are leaving here actually in Belize is because Belize tried to force everybody to vax,
and the Mennonites wouldn't do it.
Of course, the Mennonites don't use phones, and there's different groups of Mennonites.
Some are pretty hardcore, no phones whatsoever.
And in fact, I heard a story the other day about one of the Mennonites.
He got caught with a phone and he got excommunicated.
So he's not part of the community anymore.
Yeah.
And yeah.
And sometimes when Mennonites do something wrong, they make them go.
The other Mennonites make them go barefoot for a period of time, things like that.
But they're very friendly.
They're very they're known here in Belize as being very honest, punctual, which is, you know, not a which is not something you find in Central America much, except that.
You don't have to tell me I lived there before, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So I was talking with the Mennonites.
It was a good time, you know.
And I always get along with farmers, and they're farmers.
It's farmers that I get along with in every single country.
It doesn't matter culture or religion or whatever.
I mean, I got along with Taliban farmers.
I mean, at some point, you're just like, wait a minute.
Why are we bothering these guys?
They're just farmers.
You know what I mean?
They just...
They're worried about the rain and stuff like that, you know?
And the only reason they're fighting us is because we hit their beehive.
I'm talking about the ones that, you know, anyway.
So, you know, talking with the Mennonites, and I showed them my DSLR camera, and they were like, wow, how does this work?
And, you know, one of them spoke English, and they speak low German, so I could understand some of them.
Actually, yes, so I was speaking high German to them, and they understood my high German.
I didn't understand.
I only understand about a third of their low German.
But they didn't...
I asked if they had a map, and I thought the answer would be no.
And they're like, no, we don't have a map.
Because they asked me...
Because they were talking about Peru and Suriname, and they know that part of their community is going there, but they actually didn't know where it was at on a map.
Wow.
It was interesting, yeah, because just before we showed up to their shop...
I said, you know, I bet they don't know how to read a map because a lot of people like this actually don't when I'm around the world.
They're very smart, but they're very disconnected from the ways that we live.
And I think their resilience level is going to be very high, partly because they have a community and it's a very tight community.
And they keep things to themselves.
And one of the reasons they have some political clout in Belize is because they produce a lot of the food here, right?
And everybody trusts them.
They just don't cause problems.
Sometimes Mennonites get caught smuggling, actually.
They're actually known for being smugglers in different countries.
Like a Border Patrol friend told me in the United States, he said he used to catch Mennonites pretty frequently smuggling.
Which is kind of interesting.
Anyway, but you know, you never know what you're going to see until you kick the tires.
So yeah, so one of the reasons I came to Belize was to talk with the Mennonites about their resilience.
Because there's a lot to learn from them.
I also came to learn more about the migration flows that are going through here.
There's a river called the Hondo River between Belize and Mexico.
Some of the aliens are going through Chinese, actually, to the United States.
But another interesting aspect of Belize...
That interests me specifically is the close relationship with Taiwan.
And Taiwan, for instance, is doing infrastructure projects here and other sort of civil affairs projects.
And there's good feelings towards the Taiwanese here.
Belize still recognizes Taiwan, whereas most of the world has turned their back on Taiwan for money or whatever reasons.
And Guatemala has not either.
So Guatemala and Belize, who are neighbors here, I'm curious.
It seems to me that Taiwan might be doing so much work here in Belize because maybe this is where they see it as another escape hatch.
For instance, if Taiwan is attacked, they could make their way to Belize.
I don't know if that's the truth, but I brought it up to someone who lives here who said, yeah, everybody knows that.
Go ahead, sir.
Yeah, sorry.
That may very well be a plan.
I do know that Taiwan provides a lot of funding for agricultural education in that area.
So the Taiwan government gives a lot of grant money to a lot of these countries, including Central American countries.
Let me ask you one more related question to all of that, and then the next question is for Todd, because he's been watching all your videos, and he's got a bunch of questions for you as well.
But Michael, given the instability in the world today, And the wide open U.S. southern border and also the potential for civil war in the United States or secession or, you know, a balkanization, but also really just outrageous instability across Western Europe, as you and I have talked about many times with the collapse of the industrial base, the collapse of affordable energy and so on.
If someone were watching this today and looking for a different place to move to, to get out of, let's say, the UK or out of the US or out of Canada even, where would you suggest that people take a look at going, if anywhere?
I mean, is there anywhere that is still viable as a place where you can raise a family, grow your food, and largely be left alone, or is that gone?
That's why I wanted to talk with the Mennonites.
Because I'm, if anybody knows, you know what I mean?
Because Mennonites have sort of a meta culture, like many groups do, like Chinese have these communities all over the world and they communicate with each other, as do some Jewish and Germans and others.
And the Mennonites do that as well.
So that's why I specifically, one of the main reasons I came to Belize is just to talk with Mennonites.
Why did you pick Peru?
Why did you pick Suriname?
And are you staying here?
Yes.
Most of them are going to stay here, they said.
But two groups are splitting off to...
And they talked about, for instance, they're building...
What do they call them?
Camps.
They're sort of farm groups.
They're building one now in Suriname.
And so they're going to go over, I think he said, with 400 to begin with.
But the initial crew is there now.
And so it's interesting, too.
One of the reasons, again, is that they're splitting off is they refuse to vax.
They're like, no, no.
They're like, no way, Jose.
And then the Belizean government, I'm told, did not try to force them to vax.
In the beginning, they tried to, and the Mennonites are like, no, we'll just leave.
And then everybody realizes how important Mennonites are to Belize, and so they have some clout.
But in any case, You know, they're farmers, and they deal with their common sense, and that's why I love to talk with farmers all over the world.
And so, let me talk with the Mennonites more, and then I'll tell you what more they tell me, because I'm going to spend more time with them.
Okay.
But yeah, but you know, this is a good place.
Belize is a good place for now.
Especially, I mean, a lot of the very wealthy people have come here.
Bill Gates, I'm told, owns an island nearby, and you know, Just people like that have found homes or second homes here.
It is relatively stable for Central America for now.
Panama, as you know, I just left.
Many Americans are like, hey, I'm moving to Panama.
It's such a great place.
And they ask me all the time, should I move to Panama?
And because there's this common knowledge that Panama stayed on, I'm like, there is no chance I would move to Panama long term.
And in fact, right now, as we speak, there's violence in the streets.
I'm getting reports hourly from Panama.
You know, there's been a big uprising in the last week.
Right as I left, as I was heading to the airport, there was street blockages.
That deal with various matters, such as a copper mine contract and some other things.
I mean, nominally, it's about the contract with the copper mines, but that's just contributive, actually.
But Panama is not a long-term plan.
Rest assured on that.
Okay.
All right.
So, Todd, turn it over to you.
Thank you.
Mike O'Yan, welcome to the show.
Thank you for joining us.
Michael Yon, Combat Correspondents.
You have forgotten more about mainstream media than I'll ever know.
You state on your website at MichaelYon.com that we seek the truth in chaos.
Can we focus on your reference to the word we, please?
I submit we must be a very small percentage of the world.
Why?
Because the world is in chaos right now, I think we would all agree, and What say you, Michael?
Well, first of all, you have to have a steady personality.
And I think maybe that's one reason I like farmers all over the place because they tend to be conservative people that don't go crazy over everything.
You know what I mean?
While everybody's going crazy, they're just like, well, what's going on here?
I'm not just going to run with you guys because you're running.
You know what I mean?
I want to check it out first and go slow.
Like, look at Mike Adams, Health Ranger, on with us right now while so many people are crying to do a genocide.
I mean, everybody knows Hamas are terrorists, unless they are Hamas, or maybe they're just LGBTQ guys that have no idea.
But most of the people, I think, recognize that Hamas are terrorists.
But there's a lot of Americans now and others who are screaming to just wipe out all the people in Gaza.
And it takes a steady personality not to just jump on that train.
Because knowing that if you don't jump on that train, you're going to get smashed.
And now Mike is getting smashed.
And as is Doug McGregor, as are others who are standing up and going, no, no, no, I'm not going to help load the trains.
And that's the kind of people I gravitate to.
And I think that's why for many years I go to Farmers.
What percentage of people out there, though, do you think just follow the mainstream narrative that just take their download from mainstream TV?
Is it 60 percent, 70 percent, 95 percent?
Well, you know, that's an age-old question, isn't it?
I mean, no, it's not age-old because we haven't had mainstream media for ages.
But now, you know, like the fights between do you watch CNN or Fox?
I'm like, well, if you watch either one, You're not somebody I'm going to take advice from.
You know what I mean?
It's interesting.
I call it the beast.
It's this amorphous thing that we're facing.
They're not omnipotent.
The beast is not omnipotent, and it's not omniscient.
It is powerful, and it does have a collective intelligence that's quite serious.
But if it were omnipotent, we wouldn't be able to talk right now.
We still have It's not in complete control, and we are slowing it down.
Thankfully.
Yeah, I mean, we are fighting it, because we are getting our words out, right?
And they're trying to knock us down, and they've had some successes, but we've also had some counterattacks that have been successful.
And by the way, if you play only defense, you're going to lose.
You will absolutely lose.
You have to play offensive in this situation.
You can't just go, well, you know, I'll just wait him out.
No, if you just wait him out, they're going to burn you out.
You know who plays the best offense in media?
Mike Adams.
I'm dead serious.
Mike, you have blazed the trail there to be able to fight back.
So thank you, Mike.
He's also learning some, not learning, but earning some...
I mean, standing up on this thing that's going on in Gaza right now, that leaves scars.
And Mike's getting cut doing this.
He's getting cut doing this, but he's also earning respect because he's staying psychologically steady, like not going crazy and just following the masses.
Because the people that follow the masses...
Hey, man, don't do it.
The only thing that can happen good out of that is you don't get trampled that day, but you end up going off the cliff.
You didn't get trampled until you hit the bottom of the cliff.
You got trampled by the bodies above you.
Go ahead, sir.
Let me just jump in.
Thank you both for your comments on that.
I am a principled person.
And anybody who's followed me for any period of time, they know that.
And so there was never any question in my mind, this wasn't a difficult choice.
There was never a time where I thought, should I go with all the pressure to call for genocide?
No.
That never entered the equation.
It was like, genocide is always wrong.
We can't really...
We can't really see that you're principled until you do really have to face something like this, which you are now, and you're going into it face mask first.
You're just like, bam, okay, this is my principles, and you're sticking to them, and that earns respect and hatred as well, as you know.
Yeah, but that's what the globalists do is they divide people by religion, by ethnicity, by race, by skin color, whatever, even by gender.
They divide people.
And I always keep reminding people to step above all of that and look at it and realize that whether it's Israelis killing Palestinians or Hamas killing Israelis, the globalists are smiling either way.
They don't care which tribe is killing which other tribe.
They're happy either way.
But let's bring us back to some solutions.
Let me go with my next question to you, Michael, because you've traveled the world more than almost anybody I know.
And I want to ask you about currency and systems of trade and systems of saving money.
Now, specifically, on this show, we advocate that people take self-custody of their money.
And real money is gold and silver, and we talk about privacy crypto, like Monero, for example, because governments can't easily confiscate it, things like that.
But also real money can be things of barter, as you know.
It could be garden seeds.
It could be ammunition.
It could be land.
Clearly, with the farmers, land has value.
Water has value.
What are you seeing, Michael, around the world, What are you seeing people use as systems of trade and storage of value other than just the regular government-issued paper currency?
Actually, a lot of people are using paper currency now, the people that I'm with.
But when I'm down with the Indians, for instance, in Panama and Darien, they do use money a lot.
But they also trade avocados and things like that, just normal...
You know, old school trade, right?
You know, trading chickens for avocados, that sort of thing.
But mostly they are actually using money down there.
Paper currency?
Yep, they use U.S. dollars in Panama.
And here they use U.S. dollars and Belizean dollars.
But the, you know...
Over in places like Afghanistan, they will trade.
One problem with Afghanistan when it comes...
And I was just out asking an old-time Belizean woman yesterday about how they do their weights and measures.
Weights and measures are a big deal when you start trading.
Like in Afghanistan, I looked into that quite a lot.
All these different ethnic groups in Afghanistan, they have different weights and measures.
Like, for instance, they would trade opium based on the weight of a AA or AAA battery, which is interesting because AA and AAA batteries weighed...
Oh, yeah, because it's interesting because...
So I checked into that, and I'm like, hold on, because all the AA batteries, they don't weigh the same.
Exactly.
And so another way they do it is on the weight of an AK-47 bullet.
So, like, for instance, one unit of opium was the weight of an AK-47 bullet.
Okay, give me, you know...
Right, but even those bullets have different weights, different grains of the bullets.
That's right.
Arbitrage opportunity.
Yeah, one other thing they do that's more exacting, like when you go into all the villages and they have the scales, and you'll see this in a lot of countries, but Afghanistan was really interesting in this.
So they'll have different water bottles, plastic water bottles, or they can be glass, but they're usually plastic, and they'll be different amounts.
And these are your units of measures, like your ones and your five.
Yeah.
And so what they do is, you know, somebody comes in with his own water bottle.
He knows how much it's supposed to weigh.
That's his, you know what I mean?
And then the guy that's in that village has his water bottles and they check.
And so they make sure both of them are happy.
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
But the thing is, you know, a lot of us probably take for granted, like, that we have inches and miles and pounds or kilos or whatever that we all agree to.
And units of volume as well.
But in many parts of the world, that's a problem, you know, because you've got all these cultures dealing.
So it makes me wonder, as these people come into the United States from all over the world, many of these people, they will not know how to read a map, period.
Most of the people in the world that I deal with do not know how to read a map.
In fact, that's how I caught one of the North Korean frauds.
It was a pretty famous fraud that I caught.
He was on 60 Minutes and he was rambling on about different stuff.
And as soon as that show was over, about 15 minutes later, I posted something at great risk to myself.
And I said, you can find my post online.
I posted something like, I'm risking defamation here, but I'm going to say why he's a fraud.
And I was doing that to demonstrate that I do know what I'm talking about.
There's a book called Escape from Camp 14, I think it's called.
And so this North Korean so-called escapee Was talking about how he did his escape and all these other things.
And when the show, it was only a 15 minute show, when it was over, I was like, he's a fraud based on these things.
And one is he would have had to have known how to read a map.
Those guys never know how to read a map.
His body language is way off.
And another thing is, is he knew his birthday.
They never know their birthday.
There was quite a few things like that.
Like, first of all, the chances that they know how to read a map are like the chances that I can pick up a Mandarin book from 500 years ago and read it, which is like zero, right?
And so...
And, like, even the Mennonites, when I just went to see them, even though they're moving to Peru and Suriname, the one Mennonite fellow that the main guy I was talking with, he didn't know where they were on a map, and I asked him for a map, and they didn't have one.
So that's just something to keep in mind as time goes on.
A lot of the people that you're going to be dealing with, they have different ideas of, you know, measures of time and everything else.
It's quite interesting.
Well, that's fascinating because you've probably seen these videos.
You can go to the streets on different cities in the United States and you can just stop random people and ask them, like, what continent are we on right now?
And they'll say, like, Alaska.
You know, I mean, it's the craziest thing.
Like, they don't even know what a continent is, much less...
Yeah?
Yeah.
The Mennonite guy said we showed him on the phone the map.
Like, this is where his surname is and stuff, right?
And he goes, where are we?
At the blue dot.
And he goes, oh, this is where we are.
And by the way, that North Korean guy that I called out, what was his name?
Kim Il-duke or something, I don't remember.
But anyway, he was caught a couple of years later or so, and he admitted to it.
Wow.
He actually admitted.
Yeah, he was straight up caught.
And all these people like New York Times and everybody else were giving him all these huge accolades.
He was going around speaking and got some honorary PhD, I think, somewhere, and best-selling book, like Escape...
I think the guy that wrote the book, his name was Blaine, I think.
And I was like, how could you not see that this guy was a fraud?
It took me 15 minutes on 60 Minutes to throw 50 red flags on him.
Exactly, exactly.
Okay, Todd, you want the next question?
Yeah, I would love it.
Okay, go for it.
This is just a little bit of curiosity.
Michael, where is the place that you have been that you consider the absolute worst hellhole that you would never want to go back to?
And where would be the place that you would say is the most heavenly place that if you could be there right now, you'd snap your fingers and would?
Oh, I heard a bunch of noise.
It's the rainforest.
Come here.
You can probably see it.
Actually, the one place that goes through my mind every single day, you know, this is actually the 94th country that I've actually truly been to.
I don't count like airport stops or just a day or two.
You know what I mean?
Usually I have to be there for a week or so, except for Lichtenstein.
Being there for one day can be considered having been to Lichtenstein.
It's so small.
And, uh, but, um, But India, India.
So what I was getting to by saying this is my 94th country, I actually divide the world into two countries, India and all the rest.
There's two types of travelers, the ones who've been to India and those who have not.
I spent about a year running around India tracking some cannibals down.
That was the funnest time of my life.
You know, I was actually studying cults and doing sorts of things.
You know, when I was in Special Forces, some of the old-timers, my mentors, I was lucky with that generation of Special Forces old-timers.
They were the old Vietnam vets and whatnot, and they were hardcore guys, you know?
And they would say things like, you know, you need to study world religions and cults, and I'm like, cults?
I just want to, you know, jump out of airplanes and blow up bridges or something, you know what I mean?
But the many lessons that they taught have stuck with me and been very beneficial.
And that got me interested in that anthropological aspect.
And at one point, I started to realize Based on just their, you know, encouragement to study cults.
And I started to realize things like the only cult that people never see is the cult that they're in, right?
And this is very important because a lot of the fights we see in the world are basically cult on cult fights, right?
And, you know, how do you define a cult?
And so I was tracking down this cannibal cult.
And, uh, and people are like, wow, cannibals still exist.
I'm like, yeah.
In fact, one of us from Houston, his name is Gary Stevenson.
Took me six months to find him.
It was the hardest man hunting I ever did.
It was quite dangerous.
I found him and I found him alive actually and interviewed him a lot.
He came from a wealthy family in Texas and in Houston.
And he was born on December 3rd, 1950 in Houston.
His dad was a Army officer in World War II and I talked with his dad, got old World War II pictures and Pow Pow New Guinea and all this stuff.
But in any case, what I'm getting to is he came from a very nice family.
Wealthy and well-educated.
And the next thing you know, he ran off and he's a cannibal in India, right?
And he's a straight-up white guy American, you know?
And so it's interesting because people would go, well, why would anybody do that?
And I'm like, you know, what about the guys that do the suicide bombings?
Or just go, hey, let's run off and do a genocide, you know?
I mean, you know, just like it's that group think of just like I'm going to disengage everything that I thought was important and just go, you know, do a suicide bombing or something.
And anyway, bottom line is...
So is India your heavenly place or the hell?
Oh no.
For me, it's a love and hate.
And all my Indian friends, I know some are going to see this.
They're going to be messaging me immediately.
And I want to go back to India.
But to me, it was truly the first and only foreign country I've been to.
You know what I mean?
I mean, like, truly foreign.
I got you.
But I enjoyed it.
I learned so much.
Every day in India is a day in the University of Human Behavior.
That's great.
That's just the one intersection of traffic, actually.
If you can even call it an intersection.
But thank you for that answer and thank you for that question, Todd.
Now, I've got a question about a concept that you call, Michael, human osmotic pressure.
And you speak about this frequently, which is, of course, masses of humans often moving away from crisis, whether refugees of war or of failed agricultural situations, famine refugees, geopolitical refugees, and so on.
I want to ask you here today, well, two questions about this.
In the Middle East, with what's happening right now, Where do you see human osmotic pressure?
Other than, obviously, Palestinians are being displaced out of Gaza.
But beyond that, are there going to be some dynamics of large movements of populations maybe involving, who knows, Jordan or the West Bank or who knows what?
And secondly, what about human osmotic pressure and the United States?
Because a lot of people are, for the first time, thinking that maybe...
Living in certain parts of the U.S. is not sustainable because no one's doing anything about the border.
So those are my two questions for you.
Human osmotic pressure, and I guess you could talk about Europe if you wish.
Yeah, that human osmotic pressure, the hop, you know, is the push and the pull of migration.
And there's many forms of human osmotic pressure.
You know, you may just move across town because it's closer to work or it's just a nicer place or maybe it's more affordable or you suddenly have less money.
So there's many things that cause that osmotic pressure.
It could be war, pandemic, famine, or just, you know, that's where your family moved to, you know.
So there's many pressures, but sometimes they are overwhelming and population-sized pressures.
For instance, and they could be the push or the pull.
The push out, the positive pressure can be a war, right?
So people are fleeing from the war.
And then the negative pressure is, hey, there's just more money in Switzerland type thing.
And so now it's very clear that the United States and others are facilitating invasions of the United States.
I want to say that very clearly again.
The United States is facilitating the invasion of the United States.
It's crystal clear.
It's obvious.
I'm down here watching it.
Our flag is in these camps down in Panama, for instance.
A lot of Americans blame Panama.
They'll say, oh, sanction Panama or that sort of thing.
How are we going to sanction Panama?
I mean, the bottom line is we're the ones doing it.
In fact, Panama will get sanctioned if they don't go along with it, right?
So the fact is the World Economic Forum, the Chinese Communist Party, The United States is part of this gang, and many countries in the European Union are just caught in this cult.
I didn't bring up cults randomly, like the World Economic Forum is a clear cult.
Communism is a clear cult.
The members of the Chinese Communist Party, that's a straight-up cult, right?
The cult of the Chinese Communist Party is vital to understand for Americans.
And for instance, I think Skeeter's down here.
For instance...
Not that there's not malaria and dengue here, but the Chinese Communist Party is very important to understand.
They look at everybody with Chinese genes as being under their jurisdiction.
Legal jurisdiction.
So in other words, whether you're Taiwanese and you've been gone for 450 years or since 1950 or whatever, Hong Kong, it doesn't matter if you're Cantonese speaking, Fujianese, it doesn't matter if you've been here in Belize for 100 years or down in Panama for 150 or even 170 years, right?
A lot of the Panamanian Chinese, they came originally building the railroads and that sort of thing.
So we're talking, you're rolling the clock back 150, 170 years, right?
And also building the canal, which would be more like 120-ish, along those lines, right?
And so, but the Chinese Communist Party looks at them as Chinese, and therefore you owe us, right?
Now, take this one step further.
The Chinese Communist Party deems that everybody who settled all the Native Americans, like in Canada, all the way down to Tierra del Fuego, including the Mayans here, actually, they say they came over the land bridge And the people that settled all of North America, Mexico, and South America are Chinese.
So that we stole the land of the Chinese, right?
So China is coming back to take, they are teaching their people, go take that land.
That's your land.
And we're going to go take it, and America is going to be ours, right?
So Americans don't realize that.
That's what this cult is being taught.
And never underestimate the power of a cult, especially when part of the The payoff is just utter greed.
That's what Stalin did, you know, with the Kulaks and that sort of thing.
Mao did a similar thing.
Go ahead, sir.
Well, no, no, no.
Maybe there was a sound or something, but since you paused, I will add...
So for those people who think that the biggest conflict about land is, you know, Palestine and Israel, the answer is way bigger than that.
It's that North America...
The Chinese Communist Party believes that they have the right to North America and that we, let's say Anglo-Saxons, Caucasians, whatever, we are just sort of temporary interlopers onto their land.
So for all those people watching, if you're wondering what it would be like to be displaced from your land like people in Gaza right now, just stick around a few more years.
You're about to find out.
Yeah, and as you know, you're in Texas, and a lot of Texans are moving out.
You know, it's funny.
People saw that I was moving to Texas, not far from you, right?
And they're like, wow, okay, you're moving to Texas.
It must be safe.
I'm like, you followed my work for decades now.
You know better.
If I'm moving to your neighborhood, you should probably be packing out.
You know what I mean?
I mean, seriously.
No, but I want you as a neighbor, Michael, because I know you're special forces and you know I have some really good hardware.
So all we've got to do is get those two things together and we're going to do okay.
Can I discuss the notion of weaponized migration?
I know you talk about that a good bit.
We can all see weaponized migration with our own eyes, but you also claim, Michael...
That foreign armies have infiltrated the United States.
And Michael, I personally don't perceive this to be the case.
So what's the evidence to back up that claim that we should all be aware of?
Well, you can see, for instance, Chinese Communist Party is coming over every day.
I mean, you should see the routes that they've got going through Ecuador now and Colombia.
That's just dope.
Those routes, so they're going through, as we speak, their airplanes are coming into Ecuador, into Quito every day.
They fill up entire hotels down there in Quito, they get on a bus, they go to different parts of Colombia, and they, or sometimes they, some of them fly from Quito straight to the United States or to Mexico City and other places, and they either stay in Mexico or they're proceeding to the United States.
And keep in mind, I'm often in places like, well, Texas all over that border, and Yuma, and that's, you know, off in San Diego.
And I'm talking with the Chinese when they come in, and I'll ask them, the ones who will speak, you know, how did you get here?
And many actually have flown from Quito to, like, Mexico City, and then they, you know, work their way up to Yuma or whatever, right?
But the bottom line is, the Chinese are coming in in large numbers, and those numbers are increasing at a rapid rate.
There's two new camps being built in the Darien Gap right now.
I just chartered an airplane a couple weeks ago and flew over those camps after I went on the ground.
You know, usually I'm on the ground down there, but sometimes I'll Charter an aircraft and go fly over them because, you know, it's good to get both views.
But they're building two new camps in the Darien Gap, and these camps will be big enough for about 30,000 more people per day.
So these are army members, though?
They're not just, you know...
I'm not saying they're all army people.
And keep in mind, when I say...
I've never said that armies are coming in.
Others may have said that.
I'm saying weaponized migration.
I'm saying weaponized migration.
Most of them are military-aged men.
I mean, that's true.
Clearly.
Clearly.
In fact, I can send you some documents that we can't publicize, but I think I sent you one paper from a mutual friend of ours.
And you can see most of the Chinese that are signing in and going through these crossings are men.
And I just physically see it.
I'm down there all the time.
And so they're mostly men.
There are family, what appear to be family units that come through as well.
But so you can't get confused with, there's many different ecosystems coming in, right?
And so it's not like they're all, you know, marching together.
That's clearly not the case.
But there's clearly a lot of, you know, mostly military-age men of all sorts, whether it's, you know, Colombians or Venezuelans.
Huge numbers of Venezuelans are coming in.
Right now, there's huge numbers of Haitians that used to go through the Darien Gap who are now flying straight to Nicaragua.
So this is all strategic to be able to get them in here.
So they're not just...
People who have escaped, who are looking for a finer life and have dreams of the United States and Hollywood and rainbows.
Well, you don't want our rainbows anymore.
So it's not just to live a better life.
It's to be able to come in as part of a cult and I guess, would you call them a sleeper cult?
That at some point in time when they're dense enough that they'll be able to Make a move?
Well, keep in mind, again, this is a multiplayer game.
And there's many ecosystems of people coming in, right?
It's not like all the Chinese are part of some sleeper system.
A lot of them probably are Honestly, just, you know, going to live with their aunt.
You know what I mean?
That sort of thing.
I mean, you know, there's different sorts.
Likewise with the Haitians and whatnot, who seem to be coming in more pell-mell.
But the Chinese are very organized, and their system is increasingly organized.
I mean, they've got like a system within the system, and I see it.
I see there.
They've got an actual flow within the flow, right?
And some of the other groups are like this as well.
Now, weaponized migration.
For instance, when I was in Lithuania looking at this before the Russia-Ukraine war, and that's why I was one of the first ones warning something was about to happen.
I was down in Morocco watching the flows from Morocco to Spain that suits in Malilla.
Actually, two Spanish cities are in actually northern Africa.
And then I flew from there up to Lithuania because Belarus was pushing aliens over and trying to push them into Poland and also successfully into Lithuania.
So I flew up to Lithuania.
Luckily, I had been with the Lithuanian army in Afghanistan and had good contacts.
And I flew up there and they gave me access to the camp for about five weeks.
So I talked with a lot of people there.
Now, keep in mind, different groups of people were coming for different reasons.
And there were Chechens coming.
There were Yezidis and other sorts.
And there were Kurds who were not Yezidis.
Not to get into the Kurds versus Yezidis thing.
And there were many Nigerians and Somalis and that sort of thing.
Many of them were flowing through Istanbul.
Turkey is one of the pumps.
For instance, every day there are flights from Africa through Istanbul that go straight to Bogota every day.
So right now there's people in the air flying from Istanbul to Bogota because it's seven days a week.
And then from there, they go through the Darien, or they fly straight to the United States.
Now, let me say one thing.
Weaponized migration can be just being there, like the Goths in Rome.
In other words, just the mass numbers, right?
So there's different ecosystems within this.
There are the ones who are just...
Millions and millions of people that don't speak English and don't even know how to use a toilet at all, literally have never used a toilet.
There's huge numbers of people like that coming in, and they're just unemployable in most businesses, right?
And then there are the people that are coming in that are actual spies and actual paramilitary swords.
I want to add to that.
I mean, that's a really comprehensive answer, Michael, but...
But to add to Todd's question, clearly it's a combination.
There are some people who are actively spies, you know, CCP spies who are coming in.
And they intend to receive orders in the future at some point.
But that's not the majority, not even close to that.
Also, similarly, there are Middle Eastern radical extremists, even terrorists, who might pretend to be, you know, Central American and try to get across the border like that.
But there's also, you know, the American dream still exists for a lot of people around the world, even in Taiwan.
And their perception of America is that it's a much better place to live.
Maybe they need to update it.
But I know that even in Taiwan, in Chinese, there's a saying that it goes, It means that the American moon is more round than the moon you see in Taiwan.
Even though, of course, it's the same moon.
But there's this idea that everything's better in America.
The moon is more round.
The air is better.
The horizon is better.
But when these people come to America, they often find, wait a second, this is not the paradise that I saw on TV or in Hollywood.
In fact, if you end up in L.A. or San Francisco or Seattle, this is a whole other kind of hellhole.
I would rather be in Taipei Than San Francisco, personally.
There's a lot of places I'd rather be than a U.S. city.
Michael, what are your comments on that?
That is incredibly important.
I met a Belizean woman two days ago.
We spent, I don't know, an hour and a half with her, and she's lived in Los Angeles most of her life.
She was Belizean, moved to Los Angeles and Glendale and some other places.
And then moved back here.
So she lives back in Belize now, right?
Yeah.
And I see a lot of people, you know, bounce backs as they would be called in some parts of the United States.
But now, one thing that's very important for Americans to understand, this idea that everybody's coming here as an individual.
Americans, we tend to think, or let's say our sort of Americans, because obviously our ecosystem is very complex as well.
We tend to think in terms of individuals.
But when you have people coming in from, say, Nigeria, like I was over in Ireland last year and a taxi driver, I was just talking with him.
I said, where are you from?
And he said, Nigeria.
And I said, what tribe are you from?
And he said, Igbo, I think is what he said.
And, you know, there's different tribes over there.
Keep in mind.
And then I started talking with him about the tribal relations.
I said, are you coming over here as a Nigerian?
Or do all the Nigerians get together?
Because these groups will tend to coalesce, right?
Expats here in Belize or Thailand or Panama or something, they'll tend to form their own little sort of internal colonies, right?
And he said, no, we group up not by being Nigerian, but by our tribe.
I already knew the answer to that because I see this all over the world.
So a lot of Americans don't realize that the Somalis that come in, they're not coming in as like, I'm a Somali.
That's what their passport says.
They're really a member of some tribe, right?
So you're actually getting tribal units, whether that be Kurds, Whether that be many, like if they're Iraqis, they might be the Al-Takriti tribe or the Al-Jaburi tribe or something like that.
They will coalesce around their tribe.
A lot of Americans tend to think, oh, Muslims will go with Muslims.
To some extent, that will be true.
But what they'll generally do is really coalesce around linguistic groups and tribes, right?
And different – well, okay, let me be careful with that.
The anthropologists watching this realize this is very complex.
But some of the groups definitely will coalesce around tribal – like, for instance, when I was in Iraq and Afghanistan, I ask people very often.
Like, for instance, let's go to Iraq.
Al-Jabari, that's one of the biggest tribes in Iraq.
I think it's the biggest tribe, actually.
And there are Sunni and Shia Al-Jabari, right?
And so I asked this question, the same question, many times to different algebraic.
If you're Sunni at a checkpoint and Shia come through, will you give them a problem if they're algebraic?
And they're like, no.
The answer was almost always the same.
They are our tribe.
And there are Shia members of our tribe, but they're our tribe.
And likewise with the Shia who are algebraic, they would not go against Al-Jabari who are Sunni, right?
And it's very similar over in Afghanistan when I'm talking with Pashtun people.
When you ask them about Islam versus Pakhtunwali, which is like the sort of the cultural code of the Pashtun people, Pakhtunwali is quite interesting.
When I would ask them the same question over and over, many, many times, different people.
What's more important to you, Islam or Pakhtunwali?
And almost everyone, without hesitation, would say Pakhtunwali.
First we are Pashtun people, and then Islam came, right?
So a lot of Americans don't seem to get that, right?
That there is a substrate there that is beyond the understanding of most Americans, especially the sort of Americans like me, whose families have been in America for centuries.
We don't have any knowledge of, we don't, except with tribes that I deal with overseas and that sort of thing, like I've never been a member of a tribe.
So that's alien to me.
And it's alien to most Americans.
But that's what we're getting.
We're getting tribal units in many cases that are coming over.
Or let's say in the case of a Chinese Communist Party, those who may have allegiance to it, that sort of thing, as you get more and more of those people in, even if they came in only as economic, truly economic migrants, They, you know, they can still be whipped up into a cultural group that says, hey, we're all together.
We got the critical mass and these Americans took this land from our ancestors and go take those farms, right?
And that's what Stalin did, right, with the Kulaks.
Michael, you are the best person to talk to about these issues.
I mean, your knowledge base and your first-hand experience is vast, and I just want to remind Todd, and you get the next question, Todd, but many times when you're asking Michael Yana questions, We all have to remember, he is the source.
He's the guy who talked to the people and got the knowledge.
He saw it.
He documented it.
He charted the flight.
Michael Yan is the guy that breaks a lot of these stories worldwide.
The story of this illegal migrant city being built north of Houston, for example.
Michael Yan broke that story, and then later on, members of Congress and legislators got involved.
And the Darien Gap, without Michael Yan, the Darien Gap story would have gone nowhere.
You know, actually, Todd Benzman put that colonia in his book, in the last chapter of his book.
And other people had written about it before, but Todd Benzman, he's an excellent researcher.
We were briefing some people in Texas earlier this year, some bigwigs, and Todd said, hey, he took me alone to the colonia, so on the other side of Texas, right?
So we went over there and he looked at it and he wanted me to see it because he thought that I would bring fire on it, which I did.
So I arranged a helicopter with Dave Cannon and took some congressmen, took Daily Wire.
So Todd and others broke it.
I just helped bring it Big.
That's what I did.
Yeah, well, exactly.
But, I mean, my point is that you are a first-person experiential type of journalist.
You go to the places.
You talk to the people.
And, like, when I was connected with you via video remotely from the studio, when you were taking us on a tour through the San Vicente camp, In Panama, for example, and Lajas Blancas, I think, was the second camp there.
You're there walking among the people, broadcasting live, talking to the people, and getting the real story.
Remember that family that escaped Venezuela that we were interviewing, that young girl and her family?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I forgot that we did that.
And then we talked with the Chinese and you were translating.
Yeah, yeah.
We were talking to the Chinese couple, yeah, on their way to America through Panama.
I think I called you to translate or something.
Yeah.
I'm not sure how it happened, but next thing you know, you were translating.
But this is what's amazing.
I mean, think about it, Todd.
Where is the U.S. press?
In covering any of the stuff.
They're nowhere.
They are gone.
Where is the U.S. government?
They're not doing jack.
I mean, not even Texas Governor Abbott.
He's not doing jack about this.
I mean, but Michael Jan is there on the ground doing these things and getting first-hand intel.
And it's just extraordinary, Michael.
But anyway, Todd, next question for you, and then I've got at least another one.
Okay.
You've been a war correspondent for decades, so you're the perfect person to ask this question.
Michael, if we consider the consequences of a full-scale war in the Middle East, how is the U.S. military, do you think, positioned to respond to a war with Iran, for example, right now?
Are we at risk of a good old ass-whooping?
Well, I think Colonel McGregor said it aptly the other day.
I don't remember verbatim what he said, but basically this isn't the military that we had in the 80s or so.
No.
You know, there's a lot of woke people now.
You know, the current CENTCOM commander, I know him personally.
I was with him one day when he got shot, for instance.
Right in front of me, he got shot.
And he was a very serious soldier, incredibly brave.
And in fact, I was photographing him the second he got shot.
At five frames a second, he got shot very close to me.
And one of the bullets broke his femur in half, and he continued to fight from the ground.
I have photos of all this.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah, and so his name's Eric Carilla, and he was a super stud in combat.
Now, though, when it's come to the VACs, the death jab, as an example, it's very – it pains my soul that Eric never stood up against the death jab, right?
And was actually pushing more jabs on his soldiers than they needed, right?
And he's not stood up about our border being overrun.
I mean he's a very smart guy.
He's a brilliant man, and yet he hasn't stood up.
I mean he's not – it's painful to see that I haven't seen a single flag officer, meaning admirals and generals on active duty, who stood up against the jabs or saying anything about our border.
This border is killing us.
We are being destroyed, and I mean – Dead, destroyed.
Our country will be destroyed and gone.
And that's just the way it's going to go at this rate.
Meanwhile, they're all like, hey, let's all run off and invest our blood and treasure in Ukraine.
Let's go run off and say...
I didn't take an oath to defend Israel, right?
And then when you say, I question what happened on that day, what was it, October 7th?
Yeah, and...
Interestingly, those two new camps in Darien started just before that.
It's probably a coincidence.
I just happened to notice that two major new camps for migration, or let's say invasion, started to be cut down in the jungle in Darien just before October 7th, like a week or two before.
It's probably a coincidence, but I'm just throwing that out there for people's data points.
But in any case, none of them have stood up.
They're not standing up against the invasion.
Now, when I say I question about what happened on October 7th, I'm not saying that the attack didn't happen.
It clearly did.
Clearly, a lot of people were killed.
And clearly, how could U.S. and Israeli intelligence have missed that?
I don't believe that.
I don't believe that.
If they're that incompetent, they are a greater danger to Israel and the United States I'm sorry, sir.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry, Fernando.
I'm curious.
How do you think these manly men were so easily compromised?
I mean, did they take a ticket of some sort, or are they just following the path of least resistance?
I don't get it.
Where are the white hats?
Where are the real men out there?
We're the white hats.
I mean, that's it.
You know, the bottom line.
I mean, you know, this idea, by the way, that there's going to be white hats, that's, you know, transparently an information war to make people go rock-a-bye baby and just relax.
Somebody's got it under control.
Don't you worry your pretty little head type thing.
And that's what they used to say to girls, right?
Don't you worry your pretty little head?
And if you don't worry your pretty little head at this point, you're going to die.
You're going to either have to fight, flee, or die.
I mean, there's some other things that could happen.
But the bottom line is, if you want to live the life that you used to live, You're gonna have to fight for it, because otherwise it's over.
Bottom line.
I completely agree, Michael.
In fact, that kind of leads to one of my last questions.
I want to be respectful of your time.
We only have a few minutes left here with you.
But in your experience around the world, you've seen civil breakdown.
You've seen hell holes.
And you've also seen signs that led to that.
And I want to ask your opinion of what's happening in the United States with the cities, with the breakdown of law.
With the refusal of DAs to prosecute violent criminals, with the rampant shoplifting and the closing down of retail operations, the defunding of police and so on, two questions.
One is, how much in your mind does this resemble things that you've seen in other places around the world that led to collapse?
And then secondly, talk about what you anticipate in terms of waves of domestic refugees in America fleeing collapsed American cities.
Well, clearly this is the product of long-range information war that started before our great-grandparents were born.
The fruits that we're reaping now, you might say, the poison fruits of this information war, they didn't start with Obama.
Obama is a product of this, right?
They didn't start with Bush or any of that.
They didn't start with Carter, who gave away the Panama Canal.
I mean, that's an original globalist move.
Now I can see that crystal clear now.
Back at the time, that was just, I don't know, you know, I was young, you know, and I didn't have time to develop that context yet.
But you see these things that are going on.
I was reading an old...
Letters from President Grant in 1879.
He was off in Paris.
He was talking with a Chinese guy, actually.
And he talked about communists.
And he talked about the threat that they presented to us and the ne'er-do-wells in each community that can be riled up.
He was talking about communists.
He was using the word communist, too.
He was straight up.
I've told this story before and people say that can't be true because nobody used that word back then.
I'm like, false.
Not only did they use the word back then, it was recognized that they would be dangerous.
And President Grant, a brilliant man, recognized it.
And he recognized and he described in his autobiography that was written, co-authored with Samuel Clemens, actually, Mark Twain.
It's a great book.
They talk about these sorts of behaviors.
Anyway, the sorts of things that we now see, these things did not start 100 years ago.
They started much longer ago than that, but now they've been accelerated at a rapid pace.
For instance, the The feminization of men and the breakdown of American families and smoking dope all the time.
When I come back to the United States, again, I spend most of my time down range.
I'm in Belize right now.
I go back to the United States and I smell marijuana on the streets.
I go to Washington, D.C. and I smell marijuana in the hotels.
Every hotel in the elevators, down the halls, whether I'm in Portland or San Francisco or Los Angeles.
I'm always smelling marijuana.
And I can see my countrymen are...
They appear to be on drugs.
And I don't know what kind.
I mean, literally erratic behavior constantly.
Not just the homeless and whatnot.
I see people, for instance, like Joe Rogan, you know, just...
Smoking dope on television.
Now people that are into smoking dope will go, what are you against freedoms?
And I'm like, here's the bottom line.
You're about to be killed, right?
And I mean dead.
Not just they're going to beat you in the next election.
I mean, they're going to kill you and take your house, right?
And part of getting to that point is to get you all drugged up and watching television and fighting over CNN versus Fox.
And all this nonsense, right?
You know, distracted, diverted, weakened.
And now we got these high testosterone men coming through the Darien Gap and coming up on the beaches in Florida and coming over the border from Canada.
They're flying in every day, right?
They're coming in by the millions.
These are straight up killers.
They will be, not all of them, of course, but they will be easily, with these phones that we have, whatnot, they will be easily directed To, for instance, come take your house, right?
Everybody meet here tonight and you'll get money on your phone, that sort of thing.
Now do this.
Now take all these houses.
These houses are yours.
These people took them from you.
Just take them.
What's anybody going to do, right?
What's anybody really going to do when they start taking?
Not what are you theoretically going to do.
I mean, the border's wide open.
A lot of Americans say, well, that's when we'll fight.
If there's any time that you should really fight, It's on that border.
But it's not happening.
That's why I'm downrange watching the flows come in, right?
That's why I'm down in Darien Gap warning.
The people coming in, these flows are being increased.
You're being overwhelmed.
Same in Europe.
Europe's dead man walking.
Michael, I mean, so I'm a Texan, as you know.
And in Texas, at least, we have a lot of veterans.
A lot of former SWAT cops and active duty also, at least in Texas, we have the ability to put up a fight.
There are a lot of places where there's no ability to put up a fight.
There's no Second Amendment culture.
People are clueless about simple things like changing a tire.
I mean, this is astonishing.
There is no hands-on practicality in many of these areas, and I agree with you.
In those areas, which tend to be like coastal cities, for example, tend to be kind of more liberal cities, they can be wiped out like that because they can't read maps.
Without their GPS, they don't even know how to escape the city.
They don't know which way to walk.
They can't read the sun in the sky.
I mean, they have literally no skills, and they will die.
But at least in Texas, we're going to fight for Texas.
I guarantee you that.
You're not going to find us defenseless and with full magazines of ammo.
I mean, we're going to expend the ammo.
Mike, so you're saying that you're not going to be caught wearing red high heels marching with your neighbors?
No.
Red high heels.
You know, you see the UFC just signed Bud Light as their new sponsor.
Oh, no way.
Yeah, so I'm just wondering, I mean, because I'm trained in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu a little bit as well, and striking and whatever, and I'm like, the dudes I trained with are not going to be drinking Bud Light, but whatever.
Anyway, Michael, I don't know if you froze there for a second or if you heard all that, but that's my take on things.
Your response?
Yeah, I mean, the fight's coming.
It's just a matter of time.
Now, keep in mind, our military has been the senior leadership.
Not a single one of them publicly stood up against a death jab.
I don't know if any stood up privately.
I don't know.
Because I didn't see any of them stand up.
Maybe I'm missing one.
One of the senior...
I'm talking about flag officers, admirals and generals.
We see not a single one of them, to my knowledge, standing up on the border.
I see no evidence that they will side with Americans rather than the beast.
I see no evidence of that.
And so, you know, we've got the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, C.Q. Brown.
He's an outright BLM member.
He's a super racist.
He's not very smart.
He's dumber than Millie.
And Millie, as you know, the outgoing chairman of the Joint Chiefs, was not the brightest guy on the block ever.
And they're being selected for this.
You know, I used to say when I was doing war correspondent work, I've never met a dumb American general.
Our generals were quite intelligent, everyone that I've ever spoken with.
But what I can see as time marches on, we're getting a lesser and lesser general, right?
Or as Eric Carilla used to say in Mosul when we were killing so many Al-Qaeda.
And we were killing their leaders like crazy.
I mean, there's so much combat.
I mean, that battalion, by the way, took 183 casualties.
The one that he led was the most decorated battalion in Iraq.
I was with him for five months, and Eric was the final casualty, actually.
And Eric used to say all the time, you know, as we keep killing their leaders, they're becoming easier to kill because we've killed so many of the smart ones, it's becoming a lesser and lesser cockroach, right?
And he used to say that often.
And The thing is, you see, with our admirals and generals, I just am not sensing that innate intelligence that I used to get from the older generals and admirals.
They're being selected, they're being dumbed down, and they're picking malleable people that'll just do whatever they're ordered.
That's of concern, especially when you've got CQ Brown.
He's openly anti-white.
He's a black chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
BLM supporter, open about it.
And can I imagine them actually dropping bombs from aircraft on Americans?
Absolutely.
Can I imagine them firing artillery on Americans?
Absolutely.
I don't see anything that would stop them from doing that.
Except that they've sent all the artillery shells to Israel now.
They'll be using mortars, I guess.
Yeah.
I mean, but that they would use weapons on America.
We just saw that false flag in Israel.
That's a clear false flag.
The attack was real, of course.
Many people were killed.
But it took seven or eight hours for the Israeli defense forces to respond.
It's incredible.
Ridiculous.
I spent a lot of time in combat rolling around and Blackhawks and everything else on the ground.
Let me tell you, a very slow Blackhawk crew in Israel has Blackhawks.
A very slow crew can get that thing off the ground in six minutes.
A slow crew.
And how did it take seven or eight hours to mount the response?
They should have been slinging lead within 20 or 30 minutes max.
Absolutely.
They should have been slinging lead.
They should have been putting a huge amount of lead down within the first hour and a half.
And they weren't.
It was a big stand-down order.
Yeah, we know that.
Netanyahu is complicit in the whole thing.
He's World Economic Forum, Mike.
Exactly.
He's a WF-er.
And Netanyahu also inflicted the vaccine jab on his own population, bioweapons against his own people.
So, you know, if you want to be mad at somebody...
In Israel, look at your own leaders.
And by the way, most Israelis actually despise Netanyahu.
So, you know, they're kind of, they're coming around to what's going on.
But in the interest of time here, we're almost out of time.
Just want to give you both, both of you gentlemen, you know, final thoughts here.
Yeah, thank you, Mike.
And then we'll take a break after this.
Great.
I just have one question for you, Michael.
We always talk about the word they.
We refer to the bad guys as they.
And we've talked about Netanyahu.
We've talked about the WEF. But this world seems so evil.
And you have so much experience.
When you think of the top of the pyramid, they...
Who actually are they?
Who is driving all of this evil, Michael?
That is somewhat amorphous, but there are names, Bill Gates, Soros.
I mean, there are names, Klaus Schwab.
Klaus Schwab, I think, ultimately, is also a meat puppet.
But there are some, of course, Xi in China.
There are some people that are closer to the top of the heap.
But nobody runs the jungle, right?
Nobody is in complete charge.
There are huge influencers out there.
There are people like Gates who are pushing the vaccines, the quote unquote vaccines, working on mosquitoes and developing methods to deploy those mosquitoes with drones and that sort of thing.
So, I mean, we've seen quite a few players like that.
Quite a few players like that.
Now, the heads of the UN in like IOM, which is OIM, depending on which language you're coming from, IOM is the International Organization for Migration, right?
Now, the heads of the UN in like IOM, which is OIM, depending on which language you're coming from, IOM is the International Organization for Migration.
That's like the migration pump for the United Nations.
That's like the migration pump for the United Nations, right?
Their leadership also is they're like basically the generals in the military.
Their leadership also, they're like basically the generals in the military.
They've been selected for their willingness to just cause mass chaos.
They've been selected for their willingness to just cause mass chaos and, you know, by sloshing people around.
Some fish don't mix well in the same aquarium.
You know, I've learned a few things traveling around the world.
Some fish don't mix well in the same aquarium.
People never know.
They can never see the cult that they're in.
And people that are in very serious cults like the hardcore cults, they will do absolutely anything, including like do a do a death jab into their child.
And put it on Instagram like here's my baby.
Right.
I mean, they might as well just throw them off these one of these man temples down the street from me.
You know what I mean?
Don't tempt them.
That might be next.
You get free vaccines if you throw a child down the stairs of the Aztec temple.
Yeah.
Or whatever.
Exactly.
Yeah, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
Thank you for that answer.
Thank you, Michael.
And Michael, then your opportunity here, final thoughts here.
And also, give out your websites of where people can reach you.
I know you're on Locals and MichaelYan.com, but what else?
Go through it for us.
Oh, yeah.
Locals and MichaelYan.com.
I go on X every day, actually, because it's simple and easy to put on.
So X or Twitter.
And my...
My handle is Michael underscore Yon, Yankee Oscar November.
And I call it, you know, Big Honey 6 is my call sign.
People always ask me what that means.
But, you know, 6 means commander, by the way, when you're talking in the military.
Like, if you look at Apocalypse Now, Big Duke 6 was the commander who came in and led the helicopter attack, right?
This is almost like Apocalypse Now, right?
We see it unfolding.
We see it unfolding.
We see what's happening in places like Gaza after a set-up attack.
You know, one final thought, if I may.
The term kayfabe, it's a term I picked up from Eric Weinstein.
It's a wrestling term.
You know, whereas, you know, the kayfabe, K-A-Y-F-A-B-E, it's an important term to understand.
If you look up kayfabe in Eric Weinstein, you'll see him explaining what a kayfabe is.
And what we're going through is a mega kayfabe of information war.
Like, for instance...
You know, Governor's quote-unquote Abbott of Texas against Biden.
Here comes Biden's troops cutting the barbed wire on the border.
And so it looks like they're fighting each other.
Or here's Governor Abbott sending 13,000 people up to New York and, you know, saying, hey, we'll teach those blue states.
And my conservative friends in Texas at first are like, hey, that's great.
We're going to teach them a lesson.
And I'd say, hold on for a minute.
Think about what's actually happening.
Abbott is sending them to New York.
He's sending them deeper into the United States and clearing the way for more to come.
What he should be doing is closing the border, right?
Not clearing the decks.
That's kayfabe.
Where everybody gets into the game.
Hey, here they go.
He's teaching them a lesson.
Kabuki theater.
It's just kabuki theater.
Yep, exactly.
Well, Michael, you're doing extraordinary work.
Your service to humanity right now is really critical, and also, of course, to America in particular.
And you have garnered a lot of voices, a lot of allies in this process.
You've awakened a lot of people.
We're thrilled to be able to host you today on this program to help spread the word and help educate people.
You know, people have got to be looking at where they're going to live when their city collapses.
And this is about decentralized living.
You need to be able to get up and go and not die in the process and not lose all your assets in the process.
So you're helping people with that today.
So thank you, Michael.
Thank you, sir.
Thanks, Todd.
It's a great day coming on today.
Absolutely, Michael.
All right.
Take care.
And then, Todd, you and I will take a quick break and we'll do the after party then right after this break.
All right.
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And Todd, this is our after-party discussion, as you call it.
That's a great name you gave it.
But isn't it cool that on this show we get to talk to people like Michael Jan?
Wow.
He is the tip of the spear, isn't he?
I'm telling you, he's one of the most remarkable people I've ever met in my life, and he is just tireless.
Have you met him in person?
Yeah, he's been here in the studio several times.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Whenever he's back in Texas, he usually swings by the studio.
But he's usually not in Texas.
He's usually in some other country.
Right.
He's just like a force of nature.
And the thing is that he's got such first-hand knowledge about really what's going on in the world that he can talk with authority about events that are unfolding and what it means.
Right, right.
Whereas, yeah, go ahead.
I was just going to say he's calling the Middle East shot just like you have.
I mean, it's uncanny.
It's like you two singing from the same hymn book.
You know, there's something interesting about, you know, I've been doing this over 20 years.
He's been doing what he does longer than that as well.
But there's a point where it's almost like you have x-ray vision.
You see events happening in the news and your mind immediately knows, okay, here's the real story.
It's just obvious.
Like the IDF security failure on October 7th.
We know it was a stand-down order.
We know the IDF could not fail in that manner under organic, natural circumstances.
They were told to stand down.
It's clear as day.
Yes.
But the upshot, and why all this matters to this show, is that our viewers need to realize that you may need to flee wherever you are.
I mean, not just Israel, which probably is going to be overrun by Arab nations because of the escalation that's happening.
It is a very dangerous situation there, but America is being overrun.
Yeah.
And similar things are happening in other countries around the world.
You're going to have to be mobile.
You're going to have to be able to flee.
I mean, so we talk about like privacy crypto.
Well, you have wealth.
You want to take it with you.
There's the perfect use case.
Yeah, but the way he was talking, where they were basically like gang-stalking a neighborhood or whatever, if that happens, it's like, wow.
I mean, we are all so unsuspecting, right?
I mean, even those of us who are quote-unquote preppers, you know, who buy lead as much as gold, right?
But, you know, Man, if somebody is smashing into my front door right now, I'm in a studio.
It's like shocking.
So it's really making me think through things.
And wow, it was just kind of a shocking interview, a real eye-opener.
And it's making me think, Mike.
Well, we should all be thinking.
And in America, we're not used to the level of violence that routinely exists in many other places around the world.
Right.
For example, I know a man who used to live in Lebanon.
And he's Christian, but he was born and raised in Lebanon, immigrated to America many years ago.
But he said...
You know, there were the Christian groups and there were the Muslim groups and there were different Muslim groups and he said if you're driving down a road You're just going to buy groceries or something, and if you're a Christian, and out of nowhere a Muslim group sets up a roadblock, and they just start checking every car.
Are you Muslim?
And if your answer is no, they just kill you instantly, just like that.
You're dead.
Just slit your throat, shoot you, move on to the next car.
Are you Muslim?
Are you Muslim?
And Lebanon, of course, is this massive combination of different groups and different nationalities and different tribes, you could say.
But he said that that happened all the time.
And he could name off members of his family that were killed that were just.
just executed.
Good Lord.
And, you know, we don't think about that in America.
No.
But it can happen.
It can change overnight.
Right.
Right.
Well, I mean, we have to start with the basics, right?
And I would imagine it just becomes a muscle that we have to exercise.
So the first muscles we must exercise is trying to figure out, all right, how can we prepare?
How can we decentralize our lifestyles?
How can we do the basics?
You talked about private crypto.
How do we get into private crypto?
How do you hold self-custody?
How do you port your wealth with you?
Sorry.
It hits the fan, right?
Yeah.
And that's really thought-provoking.
I think we should kind of think about Operation SHTF, you know?
Yeah.
Because we have to think.
And it kind of broke my heart as I was listening to Michael Yan.
I'm like, wow, but I don't want to leave my food forest.
Yeah.
No, well, maybe you never have to, but that's the thing is none of us really know because there's so much instability in the world right now.
And, you know, we could wake up tomorrow and you and I could be living in different countries even though neither one of us moved because Texas could declare its independence.
Florida could be the Republic of Florida.
Who knows?
I mean, think about the collapse of the Soviet Union.
In 1991.
I mean, I just interviewed, what's his name?
Andrei Marcyanov, an author.
Grew up in the Soviet Union.
Left it after the collapse in the mid-1990s.
He lived through the collapse in 1991.
And it was actually a multi-year collapse.
Now he lives in the United States.
And he's a U.S. citizen, of course.
But he has seen it.
He's lived through it.
He knows what it looks like.
And it can happen just like that.
I mean, one day, you're in the Soviet Union.
Boom.
Next day, you're in some satellite republic that has no functioning banking system.
And you have to create a new currency.
You have to create a new bank or whatever.
You have to create a new form of government.
And in the meantime, it's chaos.
Right.
And that has happened again and again and again.
And it can happen in America.
My wife lived through the fall of the Soviet Union, and she has some stories, man.
Absolutely.
I mean, think about just to acquire something to eat, right?
Or to acquire gasoline, or to get electricity, or to have running water.
You know, you had to go to great lengths in order to acquire these things.
Mike, I have a question for you.
You know, I recently installed solar because I believe that energy inflation is going to be the bane of most neighborhoods' existence.
I think people aren't going to be able to afford to live in the homes that they have now.
I was just thinking, I was looking up today, a barrel of A barrel of oil is $84 today.
And I hear you talking about perhaps, you know, if there is...
When the ST... In the Middle East, and it goes to $300 a barrel, that's a 350% increase.
And Mike, can you imagine our energy bill?
So from a decentralized energy plan, I really encourage people to think about solar, where you can lock in your energy investment for up to 25 years.
I'm...
We're evangelizing that hard now because it could go to $300 a barrel, couldn't it?
Well, it absolutely could.
And that's based on, of course, OPEC initiating an oil embargo, which they did, I believe, in 1973 previously.
They can do it again and they can embargo.
In fact, frankly, the governments of Yemen and Libya are calling for this exactly right now.
no energy exports to nations that support Israel because of what's happening in the Middle East right now.
That's what is being demanded by Libya in particular.
So that would mean the United States and of course most of Western Europe and Canada and so on.
And in that environment, the U.S. is still a very large domestic producer of oil.
So it's not like we wouldn't have a drop, but Joe Biden has shut down that energy production substantially.
How quickly would it take to fire it back up?
A decade, if not longer.
I mean, when you shut down a refinery, you can't just turn that back on.
When you shut down a refinery, you lose the whole thing.
I mean, you know, rust starts to set in.
You lose all the personnel who knew how to run the place.
You know, everything just begins to just disintegrate.
And you have to build a whole new refinery, unless it was recently shut down.
But if it's been down for, you know, a couple of years, there's not much you can do with it.
And good luck building a new refinery without Chinese parts and labor again.
Well, right.
And also, I mean, just trying to get funding to build a new refinery because the U.S. government is anti-oil now.
And so who's going to loan money to a company to build a refinery when it's a 20-year payoff?
Nobody.
I mean, the refinery takes billions of dollars or at least a billion to build.
And so if there was an embargo, what is the domino effect?
How would that really on a macro affect the normal family, Mike?
Well, food prices.
Your food prices would absolutely skyrocket.
So not just your energy costs, but food.
It would ripple through farming and agriculture very quickly.
You would start to see grocery prices double, and then they would triple.
And...
Then all transportation would be impacted for obvious reasons, but a lot of people don't realize that everything, everything used in home construction, lumber, gravel, everything that is a consumer good, relies on transportation.
And when energy prices skyrocket, then of course transportation costs have to be factored into everything.
So you're talking massive inflation, and that's when...
Just the beginning of the bad news.
Because in response to the rising inflation, then the central banks, like the Federal Reserve, would have to raise interest rates even more.
And as they raise interest rates even more, they would bankrupt more mid-level banks that are holding long-term treasury bonds, whose value is, of course, inversely proportional to interest rates.
So as interest rates go up, the bonds that those banks hold are losing value.
Right now they've lost about 50%.
For the treasuries that they've been holding that are near zero yield treasuries because interest rates were close to zero.
So we're talking about massive bankruptcies across the banking system.
And then not only the American people facing double or triple food prices, but having their bank accounts and pensions wiped out at the same time.
Man, you're talking, rewinding back to 2008 and studying that, that would have been just a speed bump in comparison, wouldn't it?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
I'm glad you pointed that out.
The subprime mortgage collapse was, it was a top of water in the ocean of debt that we are now about to experience.
Right, right.
No comparison.
Wow.
Well, what a fascinating interview, Mike.
Indeed.
Thank you for arranging that.
It was fascinating.
I love Michael Young.
Yeah, he's been absolutely fantastic, and thank you, Todd.
You're great about doing research and learning about our guests, so you can ask them questions when they come on.
We appreciate you.
I want to mention your website and ask you how that's going, Decentralized Directory, to give us an update.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's going great.
We have the partner section that has been built out.
And so these are companies that support decentralized living in various ways.
And I invite you to come to decentralizeddirectory.com.
And just visit the partners page, kick the tires, go on in there.
I will tell you, Mike, that probably the one area that people have the most interest is booking an hour with me, frankly, to be able to discuss the tax advantage strategy that I provide that literally has people just...
Scratching their heads saying, I can't believe this exists.
I can't believe that it lawfully exists.
And it does.
And this is just the best kept secret on how to keep more of what you earn that knows about.
Nobody talks about.
It's said to be what the elites put in place a long time ago to protect their property.
And it's true.
So if people are interested...
I have helped many, many people see the light on that.
Yes, you have.
Yeah.
I get great feedback on that.
And the website, again, is decentralizeddirectory.com.
Yes.
And let me give credit, too, also to today's sponsor, which is beready123.com.
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You can plug in blenders, make your smoothies, which is, of course, a priority of mine.
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It's not going to run your whole house, obviously.
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And that's about it.
I guess the only other thing I would add, Todd, is for viewers, just go to decentralize.tv and watch the previous episodes that you may have missed because they're all timeless.
They are.
They are.
I had somebody comment on that that came across it about a week ago and made the comment that they binge watched through the week all of the episodes.
It was really cool.
That's great.
That's the thing.
We do this on purpose, right?
It's not today's news necessarily.
Although we did mention a lot of current events in today's episode, but every episode is designed to stand the test of time and to give you invaluable knowledge and skills that can help you no matter what happens in the world and no matter what day it is.
And, you know, like what people learned today from Michael Jan, I hope it gets a lot of people thinking because the world is a lot less stable than what you might suppose.
It's about to go SHTF. Yes, and you know what, Mike?
I was thinking about this today.
I am listening to so many people talk about what's going on in this world and it just feels like absolute doom porn.
And it can just kind of grate on your psyche.
And that's what I love about this show and what we're doing is it's not just doom porn, we provide solutions.
We're trying to give people insights on how to be able to plan and prepare and I think people will respond very favorably to that, just to get them out of just the negative, negative, negative, you know?
There are some positives out there, too, folks.
Well, and practical information to help you.
Now, that phrase, doom porn, when I think of doom porn, there's a guy on YouTube...
That every day he has a video with the title that in 72 hours it all falls apart.
Like, every day the end of the world is 72 hours away.
This has been going on for weeks.
I'm actually checking his titles because I'm laughing.
That's funny.
I'm like, dude, it's been 72 hours like a hundred times.
Yeah.
That's doom porn.
Right.
And we don't do that stuff.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm telling you, and look, by the time this airs, it's probably a few weeks, because you have been very tied up with, I don't know, World War III coming, maybe?
But your coverage of everything that's been going on has been just spectacular.
Thank you for your pragmatic approach.
Well, thank you, Todd.
I really appreciate that, and I love working with you on this show.
And let me just point out that, yeah, we're on the verge of World War III. And for our viewers, no matter where you stand on Israel versus Palestine or Israel versus Hamas, I will point out something that is universal that I think everybody can agree with.
The Palestinians have had to flee.
And what an important use case for privacy crypto.
Because the Palestinians, they had internet access.
I mean, most of them have, at least before the bombings, they had bandwidth, right?
And then many of them were told, like in northern Gaza, they were told you have, you know, a million people were told you have 24 hours to evacuate.
Right.
You can't take it all with you in 24 hours.
No.
So you've got to have a bug-out financial plan.
Now, maybe you have some gold coins.
Okay.
But those can be taken from you.
Or you could lose them.
This is the case for privacy crypto.
And have the seed phrase in your mind where you don't even need to take a thumb drive.
You can just recreate your account at your destination and then you can get back on your feet.
Yeah.
Or tattoo it on your forehead in reverse so you can read it when you look in the mirror.
Yeah.
Mike, you know me.
I just kind of have to end with a little bit of levity.
Okay.
So you've heard the phrase, good for me, but not for thee, right?
Yeah, right.
So square this circle for me, please, Mike.
The wartime Prime Minister's son, Netanyahu's son, is too busy living it up in Miami to share the risks of fighting for Israel with the common people.
Yes, of course.
So let's strategize here.
Could he be lured back to Israel if promised a Lamborghini, hookers and blow?
Mike, could he do that?
Would that work?
Well, I mean, Michael Jan did bring up that you have to trade heroin with bullets and batteries.
And maybe the change is a couple of hookers from that or something like, you're off, you're off by two hookers.
You know, you got to add two hookers into the mix.
Maybe that's what Netanyahu's son is into.
I don't know.
Maybe he's partying with Hunter Biden.
I don't know.
We don't know.
We're just speculating.
Yeah, no, we're just having fun in a sick, twisted kind of way.
But the truth is, that guy's whole future is going to be ruined if he doesn't go back to Israel and fight with the IDF. Yes.
He'll have no credibility.
No.
Yeah.
Him and Shapiro.
Shapiro.
Yeah, he's another guy that should go back and fight.
Oh, Ben Shapiro.
Ben Shapiro, yeah.
The Mossad Ben Shapiro.
Yes.
Okay, yeah.
He should definitely go back and fight.
Right, please.
He should be in the very first tank.
The first bulldozer.
Ben's bulldozer, yes.
Yeah, the bulldozer.
Yeah, not even a tech.
Just get in that bulldozer van and you just bulldoze them all down.
Go for it.
Do us proud.
Put on night vision, go in there at night with your bulldozer and see what happens.
Oh, we're going to get some flack on this one from everybody.
We are, but you know what?
That's all right.
The bottom line, folks, is no matter where you stand on these issues, the world is a very dangerous place.
Anything can happen to you at any time, just like the Israelis found out and just like the Palestinians are finding out.
This could happen in America.
This could happen in Canada.
This could happen in Australia.
And it probably is going to happen, as Michael Yan has pointed out today.
So folks, be ready to flee if you have to, to be displaced or to defend.
Be ready.
Gold, silver, crypto, bullets, food supplies.
Oh, and discernment.
I came up with something today.
Yes, this is going to help so many people.
You know, you've heard when we were young we had opposite day.
I was thinking about opposite day.
What is opposite day?
Oh, it's when you talk to your friends, you know, when you're in grade school and you just say the opposite of what is real.
Oh, really?
Oh, okay.
I never had opposite day.
I think I've been living every day.
Yeah, you probably weren't educated in the public school system.
I'll turn on CNN if I want opposite day.
Bingo!
I went to CNN.com, and I was thinking the opposite day, and I said, I'm going to do this.
I'm going to read every headline, and I'm going to reverse it, and the opposite is what is true.
And you know what?
I think that that is like a beacon of hope for all of us.
If you really want to know what the truth is out there, go to CNN.com, read the headlines, and just flip it.
And it's the opposite.
Yes.
And it's like 100% accurate?
100% accurate.
I will give anybody's money back who paid for this show if that's not the case, Mike.
CNN did report strong economic numbers recently for the Biden economy.
Okay.
Opposite.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Good point.
Okay.
You're welcome, everybody.
You're welcome, everybody.
There you go.
Your opposite news channel.
Yes, Decentralized Discernment right here, brought to you by Todd Pitner, decentralized.tv.
All right, awesome stuff.
Well, thank you, Todd.
Thank you, Mike.
This has been a great show.
It has.
Thank you, Michael Yan.
If you watch this and you stick around for the after party, you were an amazing guest.
Yeah, he was really amazing.
Well, we'll have to have him back.
Indeed.
And for all of you watching, thank you for your support.
And feel free to, of course, visit Decentralize.tv for all the other episodes that you may have missed.
And in the meantime, Todd and I will keep working on bringing some amazing guests your way.
For the show, for the future, like Robert Kiyosaki we had on this show.
And I am slated, by the way, to interview Colonel Douglas McGregor coming up soon.
I can't wait for that.
We'll see how that goes.
Maybe we can get him on the show.
Amen.
All right, Mike.
Well, listen, have a great weekend.
Look forward to next week.
You too, Todd.
Take care now.
All right.
Cheers.
Okay.
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