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Nov. 2, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Dr. Shiva warns of U.S. financial collapse and world war... - part 2
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Okay, welcome to part two of my extended interview with Dr.
Sheba, who's running for United States President as an independent candidate.
Part one, which has previously aired here on brightail.com, definitely some very controversial thoughts that were shared in that interview.
I do want to say that you're about to hear perhaps some even more provocative ideas, but that's the nature of free speech.
And since we believe in free speech, We are granting Dr.
Shiva the opportunity to share his thoughts with you through our platform.
I do want to say that we likewise are welcoming, inviting RFK Jr.
and Donald Trump and Vivek Ramaswamy and Tulsi Gabbard and anyone else he mentions.
You are also welcome to come on and give us your thoughts.
Or your rebuttal.
And also, we're extending an offer for a debate.
If you'd like to join us for a debate with Dr.
Shiva, we would be happy to host that debate right here on Brighton.com, and you can do it remotely from anywhere, and we can arrange the time.
So with that said, here comes part two of the interview with Dr.
Shiva.
Again, completely uncensored and unedited.
Thank you for watching.
So the Zionism has literally hijacked America.
And that Zionism basically leads to not a true self-determination for the American people, the interests of the working people of America, but some crazy batshit stuff.
Well, exactly.
To your point, when I hear these people talk and, you know, an eschatological point of view, I think the accurate description is actually a scatological point of view.
Yes.
It's very close to that.
Yeah.
I mean, you just said it.
Bad s*** crazy.
I mean, these people are fanatics.
They're zealots.
They're murderers.
And some of them, like Netanyahu, are saying, well, God told me to do this, so it's perfectly okay.
And I agree with you.
That's not what Christianity teaches.
Frankly, that's not what any major world religion teaches.
Not Islam, not Buddhism, nothing.
None of them teach mass slaughter of innocent civilians, right?
So, Dr.
Shiva, I wake up in Texas each day as an American, and right now I'm looking around, I'm like...
I don't recognize the philosophy of some of these people anymore.
Because if they can one day declare that this group of people are worthless and animals and subhumans and that they can justify killing them, the next day they could declare that against you or I. None of us are safe when these philosophies exist on our planet.
Yeah, Mike, I think you nailed it there.
And by the way, I think what we need to recognize, you know, This genocide, you know, I come from a group of people called Tamils, Mike, in South India, okay?
If you remember, go back to the 80s, in a place called Sri Lanka, the Tamils were being butchered in the same genocidal war by the group of people.
They're supported, believe it or not, fueled by Mossad and Israel again.
And the Buddhists in Sri Lanka We're butchering Tamils, Mike.
So they took Buddhist philosophy and then they conjured it into a nationalism and said they justified genocide.
So we have to be very, very aware that the religious hierarchies and the political hierarchies, when they meet, it's quite a dangerous mix, Mike, because they can take teachings, mix it with nationalists or cultural nationalists, political ideology to justify genocide.
This was done all over the world.
It's every major religion.
Islam did it.
Hinduism has done it.
Christianity has done it.
Buddhism has done it, which is ahimsa.
The tenet of Buddhism was thou shall do no harm, right?
Harm no life.
Kill no life.
But in Sri Lanka, the same philosophy was practiced.
So this is a huge opportunity, a wake-up call, Mike, for us to really Reflect on what the hell's going on and how did America get into this?
A week ago, Mike, I did a podcast with a very nice woman in Texas, and she was saying that she was a devout Christian Zionist, went to this, and has been going there for 20 years to her church.
After a while, she sort of got out of this brainwashing, but she found out that her pastor was very close with Netanyahu.
Friends, Mike.
So I would say this is far more deliberate.
I would say the entire evangelical leadership, the Christian evangelical leadership of the United States, has a very close linkage.
It's a PhD project someone should do with Zionism directly.
I'm talking about Israeli Zionism, and it's likely been infiltrated by Mossad, etc.
They have a very close relationship.
All these Christian Zionists will make trips to Israel, right?
Go to the Holy Land, come up all jacked up, you know, that they should kill all the Palestinians and justify it.
What's unfortunate about Palestine, Mike, is that people used to call it apartheid, right?
Many, many years ago, Mike, I did some of the largest demonstrations fighting against the apartheid situation in South Africa.
But the difference between South Africa and Palestine is quite remarkable, and it's quite unfortunate.
I would argue what's going on in Palestine is worse than apartheid.
Apartheid itself was pretty bad.
To those of you who don't know what apartheid was, a very small minority of people Of Afrikaner background, again, they use certain Christian ideologies, you know, suppressed and butchered, you know, and enslaved the large majority of blacks and browns.
Now, in that case, Mike, apartheid actually acknowledged these black and brown people, they could be used to exploit, right, as slaves, as workers, right, for their minds, etc.
But what's different in Israel is that in South Africa, apartheid was done to extract slave labor and In Gaza, the Zionists are doing this simply to kill people, Mike.
It's not even about, because they don't even care about using these people for labor.
It's about just mowing them down and committing genocide.
Right, right, right.
I mean, and you have to get a work permit to even work, and those are being denied, and 5,000 to 10,000 Palestinians are sitting in Israeli prisons right now.
That were just essentially just taken.
I mean, you know, you hear the Western media about these 200 hostages, Israeli hostages held by Hamas.
You never hear about the 5,000 plus Palestinian hostages that have been taken by Israel.
I mean, just complete silence on this.
Someone posted on, you know, so if people go look at my Twitter and my media feed, since October 7th, you know...
I'm the only presidential candidate, Mike, in U.S. history who's anti-Zionist, the only viable presidential candidate, the only presidential candidate who's known by about a half a billion people all over the world, the only presidential candidate who has a movement that has about a half a million people, truth, freedom, health, all over the United States.
We're the only movement now in the United States that educates people on taking a systems approach, a secular approach beyond left and right to looking at all the problems and coming to really bold solutions, Mike.
But when you look at that, we have to ask this question.
Why is it that I'm the only presidential candidate who boldly speaks against Zionism?
Why is that?
Yeah.
Why is it that I'm the only one who cares about the American working people and intersects that?
And I would argue, Mike, the only reason that is because of the fact that I'm an American, Mike.
I'm actually a working class kid who grew up in the streets of New Jersey, right?
I grew up playing baseball, knows where I came from, from everyday working people, the American working people who busted their ass, particularly during World War II, to build this country.
And what I am so saddened about, Mike, is that that working class group of people who built this country are being abused and taken advantage of.
If you look at from 1900 to 1970, it was that group of the American working class who built this country.
As the American pie grew, all wages grew between 1900 to 1970.
All wages of all different income quartiles.
And the reason they grew, Mike, is because we had a vibrant movement in this country.
Nearly 11,000 people.
There were 11,000 strikes, Mike, and nearly 250 million people.
And why do I say that?
Not we should just go strike to strike, but there was a vibrant trade union movement in this country, real unions, Mike, where people fought for their rights, fought against child labor, fought for infrastructure.
And those movements put the fear of God into the financial system.
But coincidentally, after 1948, after the creation of Israel, that's when McCarthyism comes, Mike.
If you remember that McCarthyism in the 1950s was used to call all of these movements, quote unquote, capital C communists.
It was used to suppress bottoms up movements.
And by 1970 till today, Mike, there's been maybe 900 protests and maybe 2 million people took to the streets to defend their rights.
And during this period of 1970 till today, Mike, the wages of the first and second income quartiles of the Everyday American working people has gone down like this.
And if you look at the area of the curve underneath that, Mike, it's around $47 trillion in wealth got transferred from hardworking people up to the elites.
And during the pandemic, and this is where the rubber meets the road, when they printed all this money, 600 billionaires increased their wealth during the pandemic by $2.3 trillion.
Elon Musk being one of the biggest beneficiaries, Jeff Bezos being the big beneficiary, Zuckerberg, and you can go down the list.
So, in the middle of a crisis, Trump prints money.
It goes to him and Bobby Kennedy's billionaire friends.
And that's why both of them are promoting lockdowns.
Everyone should, if you want to really look, don't give any credit to Kennedy.
He's not a true American hero.
He's a scumbag.
In the middle of the pandemic, he promoted lockdowns.
He put out a tweet saying lockdowns are good, they're going to stop the spread of COVID, and they're going to support the climate change scam.
Well, hold on.
I have a follow-up question for you, though, on the next round of the money printing that will be necessary to save the zombie system.
Let me give out your website first, shiva4president.com, and it's the numeral four.
Okay, so shiva4president.com, and you're accepting donations there for your campaign.
You're running as an independent, and you're, you know, you're...
You got a whole group of people behind you who are helping you get the word out about all these things.
But let me ask you this.
If the powers that be need another big round of money printing to save the system, then they need an escalation in the Middle East that is far bigger than what has happened so far.
And perhaps this explains why all the naval vessels are there and the 50 cargo planes are transporting weapons and soldiers and why GOP House Speaker Mike Johnson is calling for boots on the ground of U.S. soldiers on the ground in Israel, apparently fighting, you know, The Turks or something coming up.
But isn't it true that they need a much bigger conflict to have a much bigger emergency at this point and that they are planning or they're ramping up to that bigger conflict?
Well, Mike, there's a term that IBM used to use in the sales world called FUD. F-U-D. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
Okay?
Okay.
Fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
Fear, uncertainty, and doubt is what the pandemic created, right?
And using fear, uncertainty, and doubt, that was used to print money.
So the reality is that they're creating significant fear, uncertainty, and doubt in the Middle East.
Whether they decide to go after Iran, whether they decide to expand the war, to achieve one of Zionism's goals, if you go look at when Menachem Begin, who is one of the key founders of Israel, Menachem Begin was the first Prime Minister of Israel.
Him and the, you know, the main founders of Israel had a concept called Greater Israel.
Mike, you may know of this, right?
The Greater Israel concept was not only this little plot of land in Palestine, or this significant strategic land, but to expand it all over.
This was one of the visions of this Greater Israel concept.
It was an occupying model, right?
It was very similar to what Hitler had, right?
To expand the German Empire, right?
So that's been always the critical part of this.
But I would argue, Mike, at minimum, fear, uncertainty, and doubt is what they need to print more money.
You have to understand the American economy right now, it's all, if you look at some of the The very smart theorists, the economic theorists who I study very, very closely, the reality is this market should have crashed, Mike.
It's being held by toothpicks and Band-Aids.
Yeah, clearly.
So they need to justify.
You see, they were going to use another pandemic to justify it.
So they always divert Americans from understanding the core economic system.
The economic system of the United States was built on manufacturing, on innovation.
And guys like me, Mike, engineers...
Entrepreneurs like you.
It wasn't built on f***ing Kennedy.
It wasn't built on Trump.
By the way, Trump is a reality show businessman.
People, you know, I have friends who have advised him.
Very close people used to advise him.
You go look at his balance sheet.
He had $1 billion in assets, $2 billion in liabilities.
So they'd say, yeah, you're a billionaire.
You're a negative billionaire.
You know, on his phone with the eagle on his desk.
He's a bulls***er.
We have to understand whether it's Kennedy or Whether it's Trump, whether it's Vivek the snake, all of these people are quote-unquote Brahmins, Mike, Zionists, who come from above.
And we have to cut our ties with these people.
And it's very hard, I know, Mike, to thinking, oh, Bobby said this, Trump said this.
Well, you have to look at what they did.
What are they actually doing?
In the heat of October 7th, when the shit was hitting the fan with Palestine, I was the only one to call out Zionism.
Go look at their tweet feed.
Yes, we must defend Israel.
Yes, we must defend Israel.
And so it's time that Americans wake up and break from...
The false idols, from the false leaders, from the fake leaders.
Bobby Kennedy is not a true American hero.
Trump is not a fighter for the working people.
I am.
And the problem is that what has happened on social media, Mike, is they actually make me invisible.
It is called people in a digital cage.
You can see, Mike, I have close to...
I mean, in 2020, I would do a tweet, Mike, it would get 100,000 retweets.
And after I started exposing Musk, the fact that he still has a government backdoor portal open...
My tweets went from about a million views per day down to, you know, 10,000 views per day.
I'm the most dangerous guy for these people because a guy like me with an MIT PhD, with my background, you know, with all the awards I won, with all the degrees I have, with all the entrepreneurial accolades I have, should be bowing down to Zionism, Mike.
And I refuse to do that.
Well, I mean, I was disabled on Twitter for six years, by the way.
And when they reactivated my account, it's 99% shadowbanned.
But Mike, what they're doing to your account, let me tell you what Musk is doing.
Musk is a freaking scumbag.
They're taking your accounts.
They're taking my accounts.
It's called predictive analytics.
They take all of your followers, Mike.
Think of that rows of all your followers.
And every column, they have a big digital spreadsheet of all the characteristics of your followers.
Age, right?
You know, direct marketing.
And they can use your profile now to figure out, oh, what kinds of people like Mike?
And they can go to other people who may like Mike Adams and they can send them messages, Mike, to divert people away from you.
So there are many people who actually said, I'm going to follow Dr.
Shiva.
They get messages from Kennedy, Mike.
The guy literally comes to my website, comes to our meeting, steals our slogans.
Our slogan was declare your independence.
You can go look at it from 2018.
He takes that slogan because a swarm has told Kennedy And there are the grifter shills who are advising Kennedy, oh my God, hey Bobby, Shiva's really exposing you.
Please do something on Israel.
Please do something on this.
And he's a s***bag.
Everything the swarm does is messaging.
Take this guy Vivek the Snake.
They went and found a brown-skinned guy, Mike, to literally steal my content because they're afraid that more and more people are going to say, this guy's a real deal.
He's our fighter.
And that's the PSYOP war that's taking place, Mike.
So...
The issue of Zionism to me, it's not about ceasefire now.
It's not about stop the war in Palestine, free Palestine.
People have been doing this, the liberal Zionists have been doing this for 40 years.
If we are truly Americans and we truly believe in national self-determination, the right of people to determine their own right to exist, Then, if anything, $14.5 billion, which is about $100 per American working person, is what Biden wants to send more to Israel.
Well, why don't we take at least, because the numbers show in the CBS poll, 52% of Americans are again sending weapons to Israel.
Well, maybe we should at least send half of that, Mike, from military aid to the Palestinians.
I mean, it's the only logical conclusion you reach if you want to intersect our consistency as the American values The Second Amendment intersected with the fact who is being abused here.
And this is where we have to really educate people The broad mass of American people, and they're ready for this, Mike.
People are tired of boobie f***ing Kennedy saying one thing, doing another.
They're tired of him messaging stuff, you know, moving from one direction to another when it's convenient.
And even if he says, oh, well, we shouldn't send aid to Palestine, no one should believe him.
He's a Zionist through and through.
And that's where we need to get to, Mike.
People need to understand that I'm the only presidential candidate You could argue probably risking my life talking about Zionism and talking about that being Zionist is being anti-Semitic.
I'm the only one educating people that Zionists collaborated with the Nazis to butcher Jews.
This is why they have no problem even sacrificing Jews and killing Palestinians.
And this is a discussion that needs to be had in America because right now, Mike...
The financial system is controlled by Zionists.
Hollywood is controlled by Zionists.
And it is academia.
Look, if you look at the quality of research that now takes place in American academia, Mike, it's fueled by the financial system.
As long as you are in line, you keep getting grant funding.
I'll give you an example.
Alzheimer's research.
There's a professor at University of Minnesota.
You guys can look him up.
He literally 16 years ago photoshopped, Mike, photoshopped images, which was the basis of a theory of how Alzheimer's gets created.
The amyloid plaque theory, right?
Yes.
Over the last 16 years, $3.7 billion went into his bullshit theory, which is photoshopped images.
And eventually it was retracted.
It was all found out to be a fraud.
Right, but nothing happened to him.
Is he in jail?
Nothing.
No.
He still probably gets to keep his home wherever in Martha's Vineyard and the Cape.
All of these people in academia today are fueled by the financial system.
None of them will say anything against Israel or Zionism.
No one in Hollywood will say anything against Israel or Zionism.
And the financial system is run by Zionists.
And we need to call a spade what it is.
The CDC is run by Zionists.
America has been hijacked by Zionists.
It is a cancer right now.
And that Zionist We're good to go.
It's guys like you and I, Mike, and my run for president, which is literally the inflection point in American history.
Because if we continue funding Israel, if we continue down the Zionist path, we are going to lead to their Armageddon that they want.
Armageddon, forget even bombs going off, but the destruction of the American working class.
And also I would argue that this current path may end up destroying Israel as well, which is why I've said if you're really pro-Israel, you can't support this escalation that Israel and the United States are pushing.
But look, do you have time for at least one more question?
Sure, Mike.
Okay, okay.
I appreciate your time, and I hope the audience appreciates.
I'm giving you a lot of runway to speak, and you're not censored here.
There's no editing in this interview.
This is an uncensored platform, and that's the only way I would have it, by the way.
And, of course, people are going to know, just by listening to the things you've just said, that this is uncensored, right?
But here's my question to you.
is have the Zionists gone too far?
Have they set a trap for themselves now?
Because we're living in a world that is moving into a multipolar world where the West can no longer set the terms of every engagement.
The dollar is suffering de-dollarization.
Many other countries moving away from it, you know, BRICS nations and all of that.
But also, even in the Middle East, the Arab world has been, in effect, united in many ways by Israel's actions against Gaza.
I mean, you're seeing Iran and Saudi Arabia on the same page now for the first time, which was unthinkable, you know, until just now.
And is it possible that if they don't back away from this, that Israel, where it is right now, actually ceases to exist because it's overrun by Arab nations?
I mean, Turkey's about to declare war.
Yemen has just declared war.
Syria's going to get involved, and even the Jordanians may rise up against their own government for being too friendly to the West.
And what about Egypt?
I mean, the Egyptian leaders have the same problem as the Jordanian leaders.
Have they created a problem that is now potentially an existential threat to Israel itself?
So, Mike, it's a great question.
So I have two parts to this answer.
First of all, if you look at these countries, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iran, you know, and you look at their history, Mike, Saudi Arabia, it's very important to understand, Saudi Arabia is Zionist, Mike.
You can have Arab Zionists, just like you can have Arab non-Zionists, okay?
In all of these Arab countries, Mike, the people in those countries...
Including Egypt, right?
Let's remember, you know, Arab Spring, you know, millions of people protesting against the Mubarak government.
So if you look at Palestine, I want to keep calling it Palestine, okay?
Because that's what it rightfully is.
And you look at all the quote-unquote Arab countries surrounding Palestine, and the theory was, oh my God, Israel is being attacked.
All of those countries, Mike, serve Zionism.
Saudi Arabia, you know, Jared Kushner got a $2 billion loan.
He's a Zionist, okay?
He was a Zionist running the White House.
He got $2 billion loan from who?
Saudi Arabia, Mike.
So Saudi Arabia, the only reason it's been able to enslave its people is because it gives out massive amount of subsidies.
You go to Iran, and by the way, Iranians are not Arabs.
Iranians are Persians, okay, education, okay?
The broad mass of Iranians have problems with their own government.
Egypt, you know, I was there for six weeks.
The broad mass of Egyptian youth, particularly, if we go look at Arab Spring, there were massive protests against the Mubarak government for corruption, you know, the economic conditions in Egypt.
And one of the things that we need to understand is, in all of these countries, there are burgeoning movements against Egypt.
The Persian, the Iranian, the Arab leaders, including Turkey.
Erdogan cannot be, you cannot ever believe anything that comes out of this mouth, Mike.
He had elections where he lost, okay, several years ago, and he stole back his own election.
So his people broadly don't like him.
But using this issue of Palestine, Mike, and this needs to be understood geopolitically, many of these Arab leaders who are frankly not liked by their people are there with microphones supporting, you know, supporting the protesters against Palestine.
But they're doing it, Mike, because they're afraid those same people are going to overthrow them.
Exactly.
Yes, I see that.
So so we need to understand that.
I don't think any of these people care about the Palestinians.
They've always used the Palestinian issue to keep their own Arab people or Persian people thinking they're fighting for them.
Right.
It's basically, you know, a leader saying, oh yeah, we're supporting our brethren over there.
Meanwhile, they suppress their own people.
So this gets to this much more fundamental issue of what is going on right now and what we must do.
So if you look at all the pictures coming up, Mike, right, I was thinking there's this guy on Twitter, some guy overnight He's everywhere on Twitter and he's on Tucker Carlson, right?
But whenever someone's on Tucker Carlson, I always wonder what's really going on, because in my view, from my research, Tucker Carlson's part of the intelligence agency, right?
They do limited hangouts, they expose stories, but never at the right time.
But when you look at what's going on, I started wondering, after the Vietnam War, The intelligence agencies made sure every war that took place, they didn't allow images to come out.
You know what I'm saying, Mike?
They didn't allow reporters in there.
So I started wondering, why are we seeing such brutal images coming out of Gaza?
Okay?
Because clearly they can control that if they want to, Mike, right?
Well, no, I'm not sure they can.
I mean, I think the Gazans are pushing images to, you know, Al Jazeera or other sources that the West doesn't control.
Right, but they have...
Immense ways to do some of this control, but just follow this track.
Okay, go ahead.
So there is a phenomenon that came out in the 1960s called learned helplessness.
Yes.
It was a phenomenon that became a CIA technique, and it came from understanding behavioral psychology.
So if you keep showing people oppression, right?
Right.
They did it with animals, right?
Where basically, if you keep telling a mammal or organisms that you can try to do this, but you're never going to succeed.
You can try to do this, but you're never going to succeed, right?
And you keep infiltrating images of that with people.
Eventually, people just give up, Mike.
They say, well, I guess that's the way the world is.
When you fight back, see what happened, we're going to get obliterated, right?
Or alternatively, It's to send images into the mind to prep people for what is to come, Mike.
You see what I'm saying?
Yes.
Because if you go back to the example in Egypt that I said, when the movement was rising up in Egypt against Mubarak, there was a very interesting point in that movement.
There were millions of people.
People just should go type in You know, Arab Spring, Tahrir Square, millions of young people, Mike.
And how were they doing that?
They were using social media, Mike, to mobilize people to these massive, massive protests.
The establishment was fine, students doing this, but there was a point in that movement when working people, like plumbers, electricians, nurses, entrepreneurs, stopped working and they joined these movements in almost a national boycott.
Mubarak, who was the dictator of Egypt, made one phone call to Vodafone, and he shut down the internet.
I don't know if you remember this.
So, one of the fundamental things is they do not want working people, Mike, crossing the...
Conscious boundary and getting involved in the anti-Zionist movement, particularly in the United States.
They do not want a movement coming up bottoms up that intersects, wait a minute, my condition in America is directly related to the butchering of Palestinian people.
The fact that my tax dollars are going there.
So they do not want the broad mass of American people rising up from below, Mike, particularly working people.
So as long as we keep seeing these images and seeing I'm saying exposing is good, Mike, right?
And I've been, you know, we all do that.
But we have to build the bottoms-up movement, Mike.
Without that, nothing's going to change in the world.
We'll just be 10 years from now, guarantee you.
There'll be another, if Gaza's not gone, there'll be another incident somewhere else.
That's right.
And so the establishment has gotten very good to training people.
You know what?
You guys can't do anything.
We'll go in and butcher.
We'll commit genocide.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
Do something.
Yeah, your protests don't mean anything.
But what history shows, and it comes out of the United States in the late 1800s and 1900s, when working class people, Mike, when we mobilize bottoms up movements, that is where the power is.
And the eye on the ball that we all need to keep is everything that is done by the establishment is for us to give power back to them.
This is why Booby Kennedy is running as an independent.
This is why he stole our slogan, because he knows that our movement, my run for the presidency, I represent the broad mass of working people.
He's a fake, Mike.
He's not a true American hero.
He's a fake American hero created by the swarm.
Trump is another fake American hero.
Tulsi Gabbard is a rabid warmonger.
She's a warmonger.
She supported going into Iraq after 9-11.
She supported defending Israel on this.
So all these people say the right things.
They're coming from top down.
They're promoted on mainstream media, Mike.
They're pushed on there.
And it's time that people start connecting the dots and realize where does real change come from?
And they need to look back to the 1800s and 1900s in the United States when working people mobilize bottoms up.
They do not want the plumber, the electrician, the engineer, the nurse to start getting these concepts and becoming anti-Zionist.
Imagine all the network engineers in Wall Street walked off their jobs in support of the Palestinian people.
I hear you there, but from what you just said, I mean, Bobby Kennedy and Donald Trump, they are not promoted by the mainstream media.
They are attacked constantly.
I mean, they are defamed.
Well, actually, this is what happens.
Think about this, Mike, as WWE theater, okay?
All right?
As anyone knows, the greatest public relations people have said, bad publicity or good publicity is fine.
Go look at, you know, in the long fuse report, which was done by Stanford, a 400-page report, I was considered the top six super spreaders of quote-unquote misinformation.
Yeah, I remember that.
Right?
It was a long-fused report.
All the other five guys were supported by billionaires.
I used to do little tweets with videos.
And what they have done to me is to make me invisible.
But they promote Kennedy, Mike, negatively or positively.
I see what you mean.
Okay.
What I'm saying?
They just try to disappear you.
Exactly.
But they're still letting other people's names get out there.
Exactly.
Yeah, so there's a guy everyone should look up, a Zionist, by the name of Ari Emanuel.
People should look him up.
Mike, do you know who he is?
Ari Emanuel?
Yeah, I think he's done a lot of, like, people on the street videos.
Is that the guy?
No, Ari Emanuel...
Oh, okay.
Wrong guy.
...is a brother of Rahm Emanuel.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, totally different guy.
Sorry.
Yeah, R-A-H-M Emanuel and both, you know, very close Israeli Zionists, okay?
Rahm Emanuel was a chief of staff to Obama who ended up becoming the mayor of New York.
His brother, Ari Emanuel, runs and controls the entire entertainment industry in the United States.
Why do I say that?
Ari Emanuel is from William Morris Agency, Mike, which WME, which became Endeavor, which is the number one elite arts agency of every A-list Hollywood celebrity.
They were Trump's agency, Mike.
Okay?
They're Joe Rogan's agent.
As you know, to become an A-list entertainer in the United States, you need an agent.
Your agent controls and runs you.
He makes or breaks you.
So Endeavor is owned by Ari Emanuel.
They run the biggest talent agency which controls every Hollywood actor.
Guess who else they own, Mike?
They own UFC, boxing.
No kidding.
And six months ago from Vince McMahon, they actually bought for $6.7 billion WWE Entertainment.
Okay?
What I'm saying is America, it's theater, Mike.
So Ari Emanuel, and by the way, they were going to appoint Elon Musk to their board.
And if you see that big picture of Elon Musk looks like a whale on that yacht, that's with Ari Emanuel.
Ari Emanuel is one of the most, I would say, the most powerful person in the United States.
He's directly connected to Israel and Mossad.
He runs the entertainment industry.
So he owns Hollywood actors.
He owns politicians because he's the one who promotes their books.
He owns UFC and he owns WWE. So think about what I'm saying, Mike.
Entertainment.
Yeah.
Bobby Kennedy's one phone call away from Ari Emanuel.
When I was out in Malibu, Mike, you used to be married to a Hollywood actor.
There's one in Malibu, there's one restaurant called Nobu, N-L-B-U, owned by De Niro and another guy who's actually, people say, a weapons dealer for Israel.
Okay?
And in Nobu, there's an A-list section, Mike.
I used to always get to see to there.
And around, and this is sort of this world I was brought into, you see the same old people, Mike.
It is the elite of the elite.
And people need to understand, in the United States, that everything you see apparently, Booby Kennedy, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, all of these people are in the same cabal, Mike.
They don't represent us.
One phone call, they get to be on mainstream media.
And that is what's going on.
The elites are deciding who our obvious establishment is and the obvious so-called anti-establishment.
So Trump is the anointed, quote-unquote, anti-establishment.
So is Booby Kennedy.
So is Vivek the Snake or Tulsi Gabbard or Bernie Sanders.
Bernie Sanders is an Israeli citizen, by the way.
All of these people are created.
They're like WWE wrestling, Mike.
Mad dog, whatever, versus, right?
Big dog over here.
And this is what we've gotten to.
The swarm is creating these entertainers.
They create people who we think are anti-establishment, but we must understand they're all part of the establishment.
They didn't come bottoms up, Mike.
They don't understand that they can say, I understand the plight of everyday working people.
No, you don't understand, Bobby.
You came from a...
Criminal, organized crime family.
You don't follow the same ethics we do.
You bang 30 women and cheated on your wife and she hung herself and after she hung herself, when she was buried, Mike, he went and did his beautiful prayer over his wife and then he exhumed the coffin and moved it to an unmarked grave.
We need to understand these people are not Working-class American people.
They're not.
They're not here.
Okay, you're making a really critical point, and it's obviously very provocative, what you just relayed.
I will say this.
You know, I came from a working class background.
I mean, I worked at Pizza Hut when I was in high school.
I loaded boxes into UPS trucks.
I mopped toilets in Pizza Hut, right?
You know, I've worked for minimum wage.
You know, I had to repair my own car.
You know, all these kinds of things, right?
Working...
Real working class American.
The principle of what you're saying I agree with is that people who come from royalty or wealth, they can never understand what people like you and I have been through to become the people we are today.
You're an inventor.
You're an entrepreneur.
You're a scientist.
You're a creative person.
I share many of those same qualities.
I built the business that I have from the ground up with no investors, no loans, no banks.
I don't owe a dime to any person.
But I owe the truth to my readers and my viewers.
And that's what I strive to do every single day.
And that's it.
But I, like you, I have been there.
I have worked late shifts till four in the morning.
As a kid, I mowed lawns.
You know, I've done the physical labor.
I know what that's like.
And you're right.
There's a class of people who can never know what that's like.
Mike, so what I'm saying is what's happened is through the manipulation of Hollywood, through the manipulation of what I call the swarm, they have manipulated.
So think about what you just shared with me, right?
You intersect that with my journey.
My dad came here with 75 bucks, right?
I mowed lawns, landscape.
No one ever gave me anything, Mike.
All the degrees I got, and you work the same way.
The broad masses of American people have worked like this.
Why do we look to these scumbags from above to save us?
Booby Kennedy used to spit in policemen's face, okay?
His family's an organized crime family.
They have massive resources to reframe themselves as our fighters.
John F. Kennedy, you know, blew up a ship in World War II. He was a reckless individual.
He wasn't even allowed, but they make him look like it was this great American hero.
RFK, his father, was promoting Vietnam, but they made him look like he's a peacenik.
Bobby Kennedy's promoted as a medical freedom guy when he supported lockdowns.
He has a video which says, I believe in full vaccination of all Americans.
So they're taking these scumbags.
And they're attacking our own respect and dignity, Mike.
It is people like you, people like us, the working people that are watching this.
We should be our leaders.
We have to break from this abusive relationship thinking these people, because they have access to media, because they have a name brand, that we should somehow work with them and figure them out and help them conjure.
They're not.
They're fundamentally of the swarm, from the swarm, and they serve the swarm, Mike.
And this is what I'm saying, that I'm I wanted to have this conversation with you because you worked, you know, mopping floors.
They haven't done any of that, man.
Yeah, that's true.
None of it.
Trump was given $200 million worth of real estate from his father.
If the freaking idiot just banged women all day, whatever he did, and did nothing, that should have been worth, just from a simple interest rate calculation, $2 billion by doing nothing, right?
New York real estate, you know, it should have grown by 10%.
Well, what did he do, Mike?
He created a balance sheet, which was negative.
This is a fool, okay?
All of these people would not be successful if it wasn't from support.
And in fact, the data shows that Rothschild money is what came and rescued him.
He's owned by the swarm, Mike.
Booby Kennedy's owned by the swarm.
All of these people are owned.
They cannot stand up on their own two feet.
You and I tomorrow, Mike, can lose our business and we'll go start a new one, right?
That's true.
We know how to...
They don't, Mike.
They're dependent on all that accoutrements that they need.
Booby Kennedy's campaign manager is a former CIA person.
Come on.
So we have to really connect the dots.
We have to break...
It's like an addictive, abusive relationship, Mike.
We have to break from these people.
We have to start honoring what this country is built on.
Hard-working people.
Who did what you did, Mike, worked in a Pizza Hut, did what I did, right?
You know, mowed lawns, painted homes, right?
I never owed anything all my whole life at MIT, Mike.
I always did programming projects, right?
And I don't owe anyone anything, Mike, and this is what bothers them.
The reason you and I are shadow man, Mike, we can't be controlled.
We're not owned, Matt.
And so they have to put us in a digital cage.
Yeah, we're all living in a Gaza, actually, right now.
I mean, and what they're doing to Gaza, they're going to do...
That's the point, Mike.
What they're doing to Gaza is what will occur in the United States.
It's already occurring by the fact that our children have a shorter lifespan than the parents right now.
This has been a series of policies since 1960.
The vaccination policy of Kennedy, the policies of massive income inequality that creates enormous stress on people, the policies of poisoning the food in the air.
Right.
And you keep going on and on and on.
This has been an attack on the working people of this country.
And whenever they have problems, Mike, the Zionists print money.
They can print money.
Yeah, they don't have to earn it.
No, look, we're going to wrap it up here, Dr.
Shiva, but let me leave you with this one real quick story that's along the lines of what we're just talking about that I think will leave a smile on your face.
When I graduated from college, I was $20,000 in debt, mostly credit card debt.
Moved to Taiwan.
Could barely afford to live.
Little run-down place in the alley on the back street in Taipei.
I got myself a badge to get into the Computex trade show at the Taipei Trade Center.
Went in there, picked up all the brochures of all the Taiwan computer manufacturing companies and electronics companies.
went back to my crappy Taipei apartment and, Did all the corrections of the grammar and English words and spelling.
Mailed all of those to all those companies and said, if you want somebody who can do this for you so that your literature reads in proper English and it's great English, give me a call.
Boom.
So much business.
Had my student loans paid off in a few months.
And that started my career as a technical writer.
So that's what I did.
Because I had to.
We're scrappers sometimes.
But you're right.
The wealthy who have never had to work hard, they would never know how to do that.
Or anything close to that.
You and I can invent businesses out of nothing on the street.
And most of our followers, most of our viewers have that resourcefulness, that adaptation.
But to your point, yeah, there is a wealthy class that can't do that.
Yeah, and they haven't done it, Mike, and they want to enslave us by following their models of existence, Mike, because they cannot do it.
They're highly insecure people.
They've never done it.
The only thing that they have, Mike, access to the media, playing these roles, acting like They're fighting for us.
That's all they have, Mike, acting like they're doing it for us.
They've never, ever had to put their life on the line.
They've never had nothing in their bank account having to figure this out with their own resourcefulness.
They've never had to do that, Mike.
And that's what this country was built on.
That is what real freedom is, where you break the chains of slavery.
These people want to enslave us because they're slaves.
Freaking Trump is a slave to the swarm.
Kennedy is a slave to the swarm.
You know, Biden is a slave to the swarm.
Clintons are the slave to the swarm.
They're just different flavors of it.
But we have to stop bowing down to them, Mike.
This is this concept of Zionism, Brahminism.
It's the upper caste.
And we have to honor ourselves, Mike.
And that's what the Movement for Truth, Freedom, and Health is.
That's what our campaign is about.
And that's why so many people, even though they try to suppress what we're talking about here, Mike, people are getting it because at the heart of people, they know truth, man.
They know what real love is.
They know what real fortitude is.
They know what real courage is.
And we got to stop promoting these guys like Kennedy or Trump or Biden, all of these people.
We have to it's cutting the umbilical cord.
We have to honor the working people of the world, of people who actually struggle.
People have had to face real indignities and rise above it, not fake stuff.
People who are about to lose their life savings, too, in the next engineered debt collapse, Look, Dr.
Shiva, we've got to wrap it up there.
I appreciate your time.
This has been a very intriguing interview, provocative interview.
I'm sure I will give an opportunity for some of the people you named to respond if they wish to do so.
You said some pretty charged things, but I want the audience to know I'm not censoring any of this.
I invited you here to speak your mind.
You've done so.
And I think a lot of what you said is going to be very convincing to a lot of people.
Yeah, Mike, and in closing, you know, people should go to, you know, again, I believe the future is offline, Mike, because of what's going on social media.
So people can go to shivanumeral4president.com.
And when you go to that website, number one, you can volunteer.
Notice I haven't even asked for money here, Mike.
You know, I graciously ask you talking about donations.
But when people donate to our campaign, Mike, we actually give them knowledge, we give them books, we give them course material.
And how to start thinking about this from a systems perspective.
This is building a movement beyond left and right, Mike.
When people go to that website, they can download a flyer.
It's a one-page flyer.
They can print it in their libraries, on their printers, and they can hand it out.
It explains to people who the swarm is, how these people are killing our children and how we get out of it.
It gives a solution and the real problem, Mike.
But we're building a ground movement, Mike.
That is the only way we're going to save the United States, for that matter, the working people across the world from this kind of butchering that's happening in Palestine or the killing of children that's happening slowly in the United States.
We have to build a movement and we have to break from these people like the Kennedys, the Trumps, the Sanders, all these people.
They're the fake, not so obvious.
They're the not so obvious establishment.
We have to cut our cord, Mike.
But thank you.
Okay, thank you, Dr.
Shiva.
I'm glad we had this time.
Yeah, absolutely, and I appreciate you being able to take the time to go through all of this.
We've covered a lot of ground here today, and your website is shivaforpresident.com, as we gave out earlier.
Thank you so much.
I'll be interested to see the comments on this interview, and I look forward to speaking with you again as we move forward here, because things are going to get very interesting.
Will you come back on?
Definitely, Mike.
Yeah, we should do this and invite any of these people for debates, man.
I'll take any of them on.
Vivek the Snake, Tulsi Cabard, Booby Kennedy, Trump, all of them.
Invite them to have a debate on Zionism.
Are they willing to do that?
We will extend that offer.
We will extend that offer and see if anybody wants to join us and do that.
Great.
Be well, Mike.
All right.
Thank you so much.
Take care.
Bye.
Be well.
And thank all of you for watching today.
Again, uncensored here at brighteon.com.
As you can tell, completely uncensored.
And again, I want to say to Dr.
Shiva, I want to thank him for taking his time and expressing his true beliefs, whether you agree with what he said or not, or whether you agree with me or not.
We need to put our cards on the table and say what we believe and stop hiding behind virtue signaling all the time which Dr.
Shiva does not do and I don't do that either.
We are real Americans and we genuinely want people to do well.
We want to help end human suffering.
I think I can say this on behalf of Dr.
Shiva.
We want to help end human suffering.
And help create opportunities for abundance, prosperity, and freedom for every living human being, regardless of their skin color, their ethnicity, their background, their religion, the way they speak, where they came from, anything of that kind.
Those are universal principles, and I think I can honestly say that Dr.
Shiva and I both agree with those universal principles.
So thank you for watching today.
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Take care.
All right, thank you for watching part two of our interview with Dr.
Shiva.
I hope you haven't missed part one because it was also quite intriguing and we, well, it's also controversial, but most definitely not a boring conversation.
And I hope you learned some things.
I hope you are going to maybe think about some issues in a new light or a more careful way.
And I just want to thank Dr.
Shiva for taking the time to share his thoughts with us here.
And I want to reiterate that the people that he named in this interview are people that we are reaching out to to see if they would like to come on and conduct an interview with me and they can share their thoughts or they can respond to what Dr.
Shiva has said.
We're also happy to host a debate between any candidate such as Bobby Kennedy or Donald Trump And Dr.
Shiva, should the other candidates want to take part in such a debate.
Bottom line is, I love humanity.
I love America.
I love the Bill of Rights.
And if it takes this kind of speech and these kinds of debates, challenging ideas, to get us to that core set of values that America was founded on, then so be it.
I do not apologize for running this interview or having this talk.
In fact, I think this is the kind of talk that we need to have a lot more of people speaking honestly instead of hiding behind virtue signaling or various theatrics pretending to be something they're not.
That's one thing you can be sure of with Dr.
Shiva.
He's not pretending to be anyone else.
He is exactly who he is and he tells you exactly what he thinks.
And that's to be admired whether you agree with his message or not.
Thank you for watching today.
We'll have a lot more interviews and podcasts coming up here on Brighteon.com.
God bless you all and God bless America.
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