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Nov. 1, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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US Presidential candidate Dr. Shiva sounds off on Zionism supremacy...
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Welcome, this is Mike Adams of Brighton.com.
You're about to hear a very controversial interview, but one rooted in free speech and principles for human freedom.
The interview is with Dr.
Sheba, who's running for President of the United States of America as an independent.
And in the following interview, you're going to find out that it's uncensored, it's unedited, and that he does exercise the freedom to speak his mind and his heart about what he believes in.
Not everybody is going to agree with what he says, but I decided it was important to invite him on to hear his thoughts, hear his words, and to share them with you with this, I don't know, little warning up front.
We're rooted in freedom of speech, and that's why you're about to hear some things that a lot of other people won't say.
They won't dare say these things because they would be censored.
Well, you know, we're already targeted for censorship, and yet we are still here.
So get ready to hear an interview that you probably will not hear anywhere else with Dr.
Shiva right here on brighteon.com.
Welcome to today's interview here on brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.
And today we are joined by our returning guest, Dr. Shiva, who's running for the United States presidency.
And his website is Shiva four, which is the numeral for president.com.
So Shiva4President.com.
And he is running as an independent.
And last time we had him on, he was pretty outspoken, which we love that here on Brighttown.com.
And I will tell you today, he's going to be outspoken again.
And he's not censored.
And we support free speech and also ideas based on freedom and liberty.
So welcome, Dr.
Shiva, to the show today.
How are you doing, Mike?
I am a little freaked out, actually, about what's going on in the world.
And I'm being called an anti-Semite for saying that it's wrong to bomb women and children.
So that's how I'm doing, Dr.
Shiva.
How are you doing?
I'm doing good, Mike.
And, you know, at our last meeting, Mike, you know, I bashed the hell out of Trump and Kennedy.
And I know, don't take this the wrong way, but after that, you said Kennedy was a big hero, you know, an American hero.
And I was going to call you up on that, but the reality is, Mike, Whether it's you or every average American who really loves this country, what's happened is the issue of Zionism, if there's one issue that exposes Those people who are truly American and those people who hate America, frankly, hate Jews, hate the rights of self-determination.
It is on this issue of Zionism.
Kennedy is a freaking Zionist.
Trump is a Zionist.
Every presidential candidate running is a rabid Zionist.
Don't forget the Speaker of the House, too, Johnson.
The Speaker of the House is a nutjob, okay?
He's a Christian Zionist.
And what I'd like to do, Mike, in this conversation, Is to give the American people a final, a real chance to put someone who's an anti-Zionist, because to me, anti-Zionist, articulating it with boldness and courage and taking a clear stand, distinguishing it from anti-Semitism, exposing that Zionism is racism that serves imperial interests, is...
Really, the thing that separates the men from the boys, the women from the girls, and is what's going to save the, be it the United States or save the Palestinian people.
Because to me, Mike, this is an issue that has gone on, at least in my lifetime, for nearly 40 years.
You know, I've been a ground activist, as you know, fighting for truth, freedom, health.
You know, 1980s, when I first came to MIT, one of the most insane Zionists came to Boston, a guy by the name of Mir Kahana.
At that time, Ariel Sharon had taken tanks into Gaza.
I mean this has been a recurring process that's gone on.
Every 10 to 15 years, and every 10 to 15 years, activists come, and they'll raise the slogan, ceasefire now, free Palestine, don't fund.
You know, these very nice, quote-unquote, liberal-sounding positions.
But they haven't gotten anywhere.
And those in power know that they're not going to get anywhere.
People protest.
But the messaging, the core of what we actually bring to the public and educate the public must be much more sharpened.
And that sharpness must go into discussing what is Zionism, that Zionism is racism, that Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism.
And in fact, Zionists collaborated with the Nazis during World War II to butcher Jews.
I'd like to have a deep discussion, Mike.
Hold on, let's do that, but let me interject.
I'm glad you're making the distinction between Judaism and Zionism.
That's really critical for people to understand, because we're seeing a lot of young Jews in America who are completely opposed to Zionism, which, as you said, is a philosophy that is rooted in racial supremacy.
I mean, that's its founding and that's how it has been inflicted upon other people, especially since the Nakba, you know, 1948.
But I got to say, you know, in my defense, Dr.
Shiva, and please, please pardon my ignorance, but like many Americans, I had no idea about the history of Zionism until October 7th.
I really had no idea.
Wow, man.
I didn't know that.
All right.
I didn't know that.
I mean, it's not my wheelhouse.
It's not something that I was focused on, you know?
So I've learned a lot of things in the last few weeks that are frankly very shocking and disturbing.
And I've also seen Netanyahu and others quote the Bible saying, God told us to go murder and slaughter these innocent women and children and to kill the babies of the Palestinians.
And I'm freaking out.
Yeah.
Well, Mike, I think you're par exemplar then, Mike, because I know you love this country, you love America, you come from hard work, you're an entrepreneur, and you in many ways represent the average ordinary American who believes in American values.
So I think my hope is that this discussion will serve to deepen your education by, frankly, everyone listening.
And to me, it's very, very personal, Mike, because...
When you look at what Zionism is, when you look at what Brahminism is, a caste system in India, when you compare it to what Christian Zionism is, in fact, Nazism, all these political ideologies, they have typically done something very powerful.
They take the concept of people wanting their own nationalism, their own selves of identity, they throw in a little bit of religion, But it's wrapped in a political ideology.
And the purpose of that political ideology is to separate people from other people, but not in the interest of what I call national self-determination, a righteous progressive nationalism, but actually to peel away people ultimately to profit.
So I want to walk through that, Mike, if that's okay.
Please go ahead.
Yeah.
So I want to connect it on a personal level, Mike.
People may know, you know, first of all, I'm running for president of the United States.
And to me, this decision has been a part of a long journey that started for me, Mike, back in India.
You know, I grew up in India in 1963.
I came to the United States in 1970.
Now, what's important to understand there is that India has something called the Brahmanical caste system.
Call it Brahmanism, Mike.
And Brahmanism's view is that a small set of people are better than the rest of other people.
So they took a little piece of Hinduism, the concepts of karma, and they contorted it to create this cultural nationalist view that a small set of people are better than others.
And this is what they called Hinduism.
But it isn't Hinduism.
It's actually Brahmanism, where the caste system basically says, That, you know, if you're born into this family, birth lottery, you're a Brahmin, and therefore you're better than everyone else at a very systemic level.
And this was your karma, Mike.
They took the concepts of karma, which was really about action and reaction, which was right action reached the right results, and they contorted that to make it the view about one set of people are better than others.
Does that make sense, Mike?
Yes.
Yes, and then that permeated all of society.
So that special group of people ruled over other people and treated those other people like subhumans to this day.
To this day.
So when I was born, right, the idea was that I remember going to, after I finished playing soccer to one of my friends' home, and the mother spit at me, called me an equivalent of the N-word, right, and said I couldn't come in and gave me water in a different cup.
And that's when I realized what the You know, what's going on here?
And I asked my mom and she said, oh, when I used to go to the well to get water, they'd shoot me away like a pig.
We're this cast.
And this is a four years old, Mike.
This was quite, I can still remember that day.
So I was quite very, very upset.
The sadness in me still comes now, but more interested in understanding why this occurred, where did this injustice occur, and that really is what got me into politics, Mike.
I studied everything I could, starting at that age, believe it or not.
India in those days used to have these little comic books, and the comic books were about political history.
It's fascinating.
And so I wanted to understand this system, and that journey that began 55 years ago, and I'm 59 now, to today, has been a journey to understand these systems of oppression.
The Indian caste system.
So when we came to the United States in 1970, Mike, you know, my parents were hard working class people.
We first settled in Patterson, New Jersey, one of the poorest, predominantly African-American cities in the United States, went to public school.
And my parents, whatever money they earned, Mike, they would move to these better public school systems.
So we went to, obviously there were All white people.
I mean, all black people in Patterson.
Then we went to Clifton.
Mixed working class neighborhood.
Persephone.
Mixed working class neighborhood.
But we also...
My sixth grade teacher was a gentleman by the name of Mr.
Roth.
He had been in the Navy.
He was Jewish.
But he was a working class Jew.
He was on one of the ships that...
From the distance he saw the bomb drop on Hiroshima.
But this guy was a strong, working class Jew.
He was my sixth grade teacher.
I learned so much from him.
In the last two, three years of high school, Mike, my parents wanted us to even get a better education, so we moved to a town called Livingston, New Jersey.
People should look it up.
In fact, Ivanka and Jared Trump moved there.
And I felt very much out of place there, Mike.
I was the only dark-skinned Indian kid among 4,000 predominantly Jewish kids.
And in the air, and these were very wealthy kids, very different than Persippany, where, you know, the previous town.
And you can see a big distinction between the working class Jews in Persippany and these bourgeois Jews.
And their parents, Mike, around, I think, sophomore year would send them to Israel.
And they would come back, Mike, wanting to freaking kill every Arab, completely completely.
I'm culturally trained in Zionism.
And so I was exposed to this because I was one of the best students, a very good sportsman.
And there were many, many instances, Mike, where I was discriminated because only Jewish people are the chosen people of God.
Wow, how is this Indian kid doing better than everyone?
And I could get into the levels of discrimination that I endured.
But the bottom line is I came to understand what Zionism is.
This is, you know, when I'm 16, 17, 18.
So everyone needs to understand that Zionism is anti-Semitism.
So if you are anti-Zionist and someone calls you an anti-Semite, I'm going to give you the actual historical tools to understand why this is complete nonsense.
Zionism is racism that serves imperial interests, power, profit, and control.
So let's sort of peel this back, Mike, because I've been studying this for a while.
So what is Zionism?
Well, believe it or not, there are 70 million Christian Zionists in the United States.
Christians, actually.
You know, if you look at the Bible Belt, about 80% of them are Christian Zionists.
Christian Zionists comes from this eschatological view of Christianity, which actually goes back around 1600s, Mike.
Prior to the 1600s, when you really look at the teachings, even from the time of Martin Luther, the idea, and I'm not saying I support any of the ideas, but I'm just sort of presenting it.
Everyone should do their own research, was that a Jewish person had to convert to Christianity, and then, you know, they would have salvation.
Between 1600s and 1800s, a form of Christian Zionism appears, which says, oh, if the Jews go back to their homeland, they still have to convert, and then they establish themselves in their homeland, then they can reach salvation.
By the 1800s, I believe the guy's name is Wilhelm Heckler.
This became this concept.
All we had to do, all Jews had to do, was go back to Jerusalem, set themselves up, and they would reach salvation.
Now, this was a Christian Zionist view.
It did not exist before.
So you have Heckler over here, and it was just sort of fate, you could say, connects with a guy called Theodore Herzl.
Now, who's Theodore Herzl?
One of the contextual things we need to understand is in Europe, there was a very interesting phenomenon going on, right?
Europe had different religions and different races of people.
You know, at that time, Europe was living in the world of feudalism, right?
Kings and lords.
Now, it so turns out that bourgeois Jews, very wealthy Jews, were the ones who advised the kings on finance and usury, and they were the bankers.
This is not to say there was not a broad mass of working class Jews.
And there was discrimination, there was pogroms that would take place against a broad mass by the Cossacks, quote-unquote Cossacks, of these broad mass of Jews.
Now, one way to think about this, Mike, is if you're living among the elites, and let's say the subjects that you have are people of all different races and all different religions, the elites always want to make sure Those people of these different backgrounds do not rise up against that.
Very similar to when the American, when the first white colonists came here, there were the wealthy colonists.
They had a policy, and this has been written about quite extensively, that the poor white colonists were made afraid of the black slaves who were made afraid of the Native Americans because they didn't want all of these people ganging up on them.
OK, Mike, so they bred fear among white colonists to fear the blacks and fear the Native Americans, et cetera.
So this is what I call a form of cultural nationalism that is bred to keep people spread apart.
In India, for example, it is very easy to start a race war or a religious war.
A Hindu politician, if he wants to get elected, will go among Hindus and say, see, the Muslims hate you.
And you can rile people up the same way with a Muslim politician.
So the concept of keeping people, everyday people, divided by race and religion has been an extraordinary, powerful way for those in power and To stay in power.
So in Europe, getting back to Europe, there was the question, you know, the Jews that we're talking about were in Europe.
They were white.
They weren't, you know, dark-skinned Arab Jews.
We're talking about white European Jews who've been there for 300 years.
And when they were feeling discrimination, there was two trends, Mike.
One trend were working class Jews fighters who were part of trade unions and working class movements.
They said, no, we're Europeans.
We're Jews.
We're going to fight for our rights.
All right.
We have the right to be here.
Our rights to national self-determination here.
The other more reactionary trend was this emerging Zionist movement.
In fact, it was called Zionism by Theodore Herzl.
And so Herzl's view was, well, we should go to a homeland.
And his meeting with Heckler gave him this ideological references, these sort of Christian religious references, Mike, very much like how Brahminism took religious references from Hinduism and justified why you can support a type of cultural nationalism.
So fundamentally, Herzl's meeting with Heckler and so on resulted.
Finally, they attempted to work with the Germans to get the right to a homeland.
Eventually, the British gave them the right to a homeland.
But we have to understand that there were many Zionist conferences held.
The first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth.
The sixth got the Zionist conference.
One of the decisions was made to have the homeland be in Uganda, Mike.
Okay.
Yes, Argentina was another choice.
And finally, the Balfour Declaration gets signed and the Zionist movement is given a place in Palestine, which was Palestinians were living in.
97% were, in fact, Arabs.
This is very important to understand.
But how can they be given a place when the givers didn't own it?
Exactly.
Great question.
Great question.
So we should put giving in double quotes.
So what happened here was Britain, as everyone needs to understand, But imperial Britain, colonial Britain, always prospered by dividing and ruling people.
Divide and rule, Mike.
So when they went across Africa, right?
I mean, you had these African kings, they had their borders very clearly up.
And Britain came and drew random lines called nation states.
And it had these people fighting against each other.
And as they fought against each other, Britain on the back end used those divisions to seize control of diamonds, all sorts of resources.
That was a goal here.
Just one point I want to make sure is that people understand, when I call this racism, Zionism is built on a political ideology of the chosen people, that they have the right to go be occupiers of other people's land.
Remember, Nazism was a political ideology, that it said they are a superior race, so they have the right to go occupy other people's land.
Unfortunately, Christian Zionism, the concept of manifest destiny...
Had this same concept, right?
That we are going to help the heathens.
And this is a very powerful philosophy because using this notion of you are better, that you have a manifest destiny, it justifies butchering of, let's say, the aborigines in Australia, butchering of the Native Americans.
Same in Canada.
And it's very interesting.
Canada, the United States, and Australia, I'm talking about the elites there, all support Zionism.
It comes down to this core ideology of cultural nationalism.
Let me interject.
This all makes sense so far, but let me interject.
One of the things that's been really shocking for me to observe over the last few weeks is many, many top officials of Israel actually demonstrating their support for genocide and ethnic cleansing.
For example, the former ambassador to Italy talking about how they need to completely wipe out Gaza.
Netanyahu himself, Gallant, the leader of the IDF.
I mean, they're not hiding behind euphemisms.
They are directly saying that we are the chosen people and that we have to go wipe out the Amalek, I think was the term that Netanyahu used, We have to wipe out these other people, and that's the only way that we can survive as a people.
Now, it seems like, from my point of view, again, I have not been aware of all this for much time, but from my point of view, I can't ever recall...
The Israeli leaders speaking out in such a way in direct support of genocidal actions and calling for the mass slaughter of innocent civilians.
It seems like...
Am I wrong?
Did I just not notice before?
I think it's important to understand if you go look at Menachem Begin, if you go look at Ariel Sharon, all of these people have used these kinds of genocidal words.
I mean, as far as I remember, in 1980, when you had Gaza steamrolled over, you can go look at the 2000s.
It's been a constant policy.
What has occurred, Mike, is Israel has a parliamentary system of coalitions.
So the quote-unquote, when the rabbit right comes in, you'll hear more of this.
When the liberals take over, they still have this as the underpinnings.
Right.
But at the core of it, this has been something that's been recurring.
And that's what I want to mention to people.
A lot of the new generation of people, you know, by the way, young people under the age of 30 and 40 people under the age of 44, 65 percent of those people do not want us to send weapons to Israel.
Mike, this just came out in a CBS poll.
You won't see that discussed on the mainstream media.
The key thing to understand is that Zionism, Theodore Herzl, was built on racism.
His best financiers, one of his best financiers was Cecil Rhodes.
Rhodesia, Mike.
So that's where he got his money to build Zionism.
As we know, Rhodesia was built on the back of this philosophy that the white man was better than the black man, period.
So this notion of one race being better than the other is one that fueled Zionism, funded it.
And what you're seeing today, the words, I mean, I have a bunch of quotes I put up on my Twitter site.
Many of the president of Israel basically saying, you know, all of these civilians are enemies and we are here to basically destroy all of them.
The term genocide, the policies of genocide go hand in hand with cultural nationalism, Mike, because one race is better than the other.
And this, unfortunately, was true what drove Christian Zionism when it came to the United States.
So when you look at the United States today, what has happened in the United States, Mike, is the Zionists, Zionism, has essentially hijacked even at the working class level.
So Christian Zionism, you have these I want to put double quotes around Christian Zionists who have taken this eschatological view.
It's a big term that means the view Armageddon is going to come one day and we have to make sure the Jews head back to Jerusalem and when the homeland is set up, then Christ is going to descend and we're all going to be free.
This is this quote-unquote Christian Zionist view.
There's 70 million Christian Zionists in the United States.
So think about that.
There's only 14 million Jews.
So there's far more Christian Zionists than there are Jewish Zionists.
In fact, there are many Jews who are anti-Zionists, and this needs to be understood.
So to everyone listening, we cannot allow these genocidal maniacs when you expose Zionism to say you're anti-Semitism.
So Zionism is actually anti-Semitism.
In the Warsaw ghetto fights of World War II, where Jews were starting to arm themselves to fight in these very concentration camp-like ghettos against Nazis, it was the Zionist, Mike, who collaborated with Israel to disarm the Jews, Mike. who collaborated with Israel to disarm the Jews, Mike.
This is something that everyone needs to understand.
Zionism collaborated with Nazism.
Very much like many of the black cultural nationalists in the 1800s would collaborate with the KKK. Because they had this view of separatism.
We're going to go back to Africa.
Marcus Garvey.
So the concept of one cultural nationalist group collaborating with another on the basis of racism is always a twin pair.
So Zionism collaborated with Nazism against Jews.
So this is something we need to educate people on.
Zionism is anti-Semitism.
And in the United States, Mike, what's now happened is every politician, you can go look at AIPAC's list.
I mean, it's more than three quarters of the House of Representatives, the Senate, has to bow down to Israel, Mike.
They do.
Has to bow down to Zionism.
They do.
To get elected.
Don't they actually sign pledges to Israel?
Sign a pledge.
And that's why, if you look at every candidate...
Every one of them, Democrat and Republican, Booby Kennedy, excuse my language, but or Donald freaking Trump or Vivek the snake.
All of these people are all Zionists because Zionism means that you believe that it's right for an occupying force, the chosen people to just to establish their, quote unquote, homeland and to butcher Palestinians.
Go look at Booby Kennedy's tweet feed.
Go look at Trump's tweet feed.
Go look at Nikki Haley's tweet feed.
Go look at DeSantis' tweet feed.
Vivek the snake is just a slime job because one day he says this and another day he says it.
But fundamentally, these people have no backbone to stand up against Zionism.
It's clear that, I mean, just to back up some of what you're saying there, it's clear that Donald Trump is all in with Israel.
Anything, I mean, he said it explicitly, anything Israel needs, he would provide as president.
I guess that means endless weapons, endless funding.
But, you know, this seems a lot like a racket to me where America gives billions of dollars to Israel.
Then some of that money finds its way into groups like AIPAC that then threaten members of Congress and senators, threaten, oh, you know, we're going to primary you if you don't support Israel.
So wait a minute, you're using our own money to threaten our so-called representatives to do your bidding in Israel.
Now we can send two carrier strike groups to the eastern Mediterranean Sea.
We can't put troops on the southern border of the United States and defend our own borders.
But Johnson, the new speaker of the GOP, is like, anything for Israel, freaking nothing for America.
That's the message that I'm getting from the GOP right now.
Yeah, Mike, I think this is a very good transition to talk about from a systems analysis how Zionists have hijacked America.
Wall Street, Hollywood, academia.
And that's what we're talking about.
Ultimately, the victims of this are two peoples.
Right now, the Palestinian people and the American people.
And I want to intersect this.
The Zionists who do not care about our borders will send, as you said, two aircraft carriers to protect Zionists.
I really liked it.
I don't know why they're calling it the Israel-Hamas war.
By the way, everyone also needs to know, Mike, Hamas was created by Israel.
We do know that, yes.
Yeah, Hamas was created by Israel in 2019.
You know, Yossi Cohen, who's the head of Mossad, who's been tagged to become the next prime minister of Israel by Netanyahu, was in Qatar telling them keep funding Hamas.
Because, see, there were actually secular...
It's very, very important to understand this nuance...
Among the Palestinian people, they were secular, which means non-religious liberation organizations fighting for the people of Palestine.
So it is very important that Zionism created a radical Islamic thing to make this secular struggle look crazy.
So they funded Hamas to be the crazy wing And in fact, wanted them to be the leadership wing so they could say, see, these people are nuts.
So the secular wing of the Arab movement was diminished.
And this is openly talked about.
Netanyahu talks about it.
You can find all the videos.
Yossi Cohen was in Qatar.
And this is out there.
But none of the mainstream media want to say, well, how do these people on these gliders come over into Israel when Israel supposedly has the most amazing security system where every microsecond they're using satellites, you know, the most advanced AI system to surveil this.
If you go look at the 2012, December 2012 issue of The Economist, Mike, and I don't know if The Economist, by the way, you know, one of the Rothschilds used to run and own The Economist.
But in the 2012 issue, it has this wild war going on in Israel.
And you see Hamas on a hand glider, Mike, and Netanyahu on a hand glider fighting over Israel.
I don't know if you've seen this image.
No, I haven't seen it.
Yeah, so it's almost foreshadowing what's going to be coming.
But it needs to be understood that Zionism, Indian Brahminism, loves...
When they have the radical element, Indian Brahminism loves when some crazy radical Muslim guy does something in India.
Now they can bring all their forces, say, see, all the Muslims are like this.
Zionism is the one that supported Hamas.
So when I see Hamas is doing this, replace Hamas with Israel, okay?
Because If Hamas truly cared about the Palestinian people, their liberation, it would have armed all of them, Mike.
You would have had popular militias.
They haven't done that.
They've kept it as a standing army because it can be controlled.
But I think we need to recognize, to your point, what has been occurring with U.S. policy.
U.S. policy since 1948 to today was hijacked.
And that hijacking was to support Israel.
Now, what is Israel?
Israel fundamentally...
Is a military base that serves imperial interests, British interests and now U.S. interests.
So it must be understood that the British colonialism, British imperialism, U.S. imperialism, when they saw that strip of land, Mike, in Palestine, they were eyeing that for a long time, long before even Herzl came around.
Long before Zionism existed, they wanted that land, Mike, because it is a...
Just go look at where Palestine is, right?
In between the trade, the Middle East.
It's a strategic piece of property.
Clearly.
So so when this Zionist movement came, they saw this as a huge opportunity to bring the Zionists over to Palestine.
They knew it was going to create this problem, Mike, but that's what they wanted.
Britain always wants national divisions.
They go carve up countries.
They did it in India.
They did it in Africa.
And that's what they did in that region.
They knew it was going to cause a problem.
British imperialism loves problems because whenever there's nation state wars, they can come in.
They can try to be like they're the peacemakers, but ultimately control that situation.
So the entire area of Palestine was targeted by imperialism for profiteering interests.
So it just so happened these Zionists served that purpose, Mike.
And Zionism doesn't give a damn about Jews.
It's absolutely fine funding Hamas to create this war.
And if we go look at Zionism, the United States, Zionism controls the financial system.
Zionism controls Hollywood.
Zionism controls academia.
And why do I call it Zionism versus Judaism?
Because in all these sectors, if you say anything against Israel, you're gone.
Look at all the, I think, close to 600 A-list actors have signed this pledge, basically saying that, you know, we should not stop this war until we get the hostages, okay?
Basically supporting the butchering of Palestinians.
And if you look at all those actors who've signed that, Mike, they're all what you call the A-list.
The B or C list have signed the other pledge, okay?
Because in order to be an A-list actor, you're not going to get there without paying homage to Israel.
And every, you know, three to four years, you'll see a movie coming out in Hollywood, always talking about the abuse that took place to the Israelis, but never talking about the Palestinian conditions.
I think there was one movie done in 1984 with Diane Keaton, and everyone should watch it, called The Little Drummer Girl.
And it exposes how Mossad, Mossad is a security unit, Let me repeat that again.
Through deception, thou shalt win war.
That is the entire basis of Israel's approach on how they quote-unquote win wars or execute massacres.
Well, and to that point, by the way, these leaked documents that came out from Israel's Ministry of Intelligence that have been confirmed show that this was a plan to push all 2.3 million Palestinians out of Gaza, push them to the Sinai Peninsula, push them over to Egypt, right?
And then to claim Gaza for Israel, just to make it part of greater Israel, stealing more land, which has been the pattern since 1948 and 1967, 1973 and so on.
It's just, oh, always ending up with more and more land and displacing people.
But in order to how do you encourage 2.3 million people to leave their homes?
You have to bomb them.
You have to murder them.
And then you claim, oh, let's leave a humanitarian corridor open so they can leave.
Well, they're never going to get to come back if Israel achieves this plan.
But also, in order to start all of this, Israel had to allow Hamas to attack it on October 7th.
The stand-down order.
Do you agree with that assessment that they stood down on purpose to allow this attack?
Yeah, Mike, and I think this is the, you know, Mossad again, who's the one that helped fund and fuel Hamas.
Their slogan is, through deception, thou shalt win war.
And, you know, the first tweet I did on this, Mike, was the following, is that Netanyahu...
Who's, you know, the more apparent butcher of Palestinians.
The liberal Zionists do the same thing, but they just act nice as they stab the Palestinians in the back.
But Netanyahu is open about this.
Now Netanyahu, Mike, for the last two years has been under, he was criminally indicted.
There's been massive fraud charges against him for corruption and fraud.
The broad mass of Israelis hate Netanyahu.
There were massive protests in Israel just two weeks before October 7th.
100,000 people came to protest against him.
He is not liked.
And if you remember, in history, whenever a king or a leader, when people start rising up against that leader, what's the first thing they do?
They point the enemy somewhere else to galvanize their people.
Oh, we have an enemy outside.
So Netanyahu was on his way out, Mike.
So you have that dynamic going on within Israel in the United States.
You have this other dynamic that the financial system is actually should have collapsed, Mike.
And I want to talk about this.
The financial United States was about to collapse.
So the United States needed a war distraction, another crisis so they could use that crisis to justify printing monies.
So let me sort of intersect both of these.
So first thing people need to understand, just go look at, just go to a little bit of Googling, go look at prior to October 7th, and you'll see that Netanyahu was under massive protests to get rid of him.
And starting in April, he attacked the Aqsa in a mosque, twice more like.
He wanted to, and it's one of the most holiest shrines of Muslims.
He wanted to incite something.
Now, if you look at broadly, Mike, and we just want to step back a little bit, if we go to the fact that the United States economy has been abusing the American working people at all levels, it doesn't care about protecting borders, it doesn't care about really creating a vibrant economic system, it's been fueled by printing money.
Let's go back to the presidency of Barack Obama.
Barack Obama, a lot of Working class whites, a lot of black people voted for Obama.
In fact, 57% of Trumpers voted for Obama.
He was a Manchurian candidate that was, again, supported and created by Zionists.
The Pritzker family in Chicago was his big funder.
Overnight, this guy shows up.
So Zionists fueled Obama's job as he was presented to the public because he was going to help the masses of working people.
But what did he do, Mike?
In 2008, all the big Zionist financial system...
The banking system in the United States was creating all these derivative products, making tons of money, selling wacko banking products.
Credit default swaps and all that, yeah.
All that stuff, right?
It was all crazy stuff that would never have been allowed.
But because the Federal Reserve, the Treasury, the Congress, and the bankers all have a revolving door of frankly Zionists.
We have to go look at this.
We have to address that.
So they supported all this Completely crazy financial products which manipulated working people.
People invested in these products and everything crashed in 2008.
Now, if you were a true market capitalist, a true American, you would have let all those big banks fail.
They should have failed, Mike.
That's right.
We didn't.
What happened is the Fed, people need to understand the Congress, the United States Congress did something quite unfortunate.
They allowed the Treasury to outsource their printing of money to To something called the Federal Reserve.
The Federal Reserve is a private organization.
And the Federal Reserve basically prints money at will and gives it to their friends in the banking community, JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs, etc., who then funnel it to BlackRock.
And all of these people work with each other.
They collect commissions on all of this money printing.
So when 2008 occurred, if Obama truly cared about people, he would have let all these banks fail, but he didn't.
In the midnight hour, the Fed prints money.
In Obama's administrative term, they printed $8.1 trillion, Mike.
So this money was printed, and they came up with a big name for it, Mike.
They called it quantitative easing.
Remember that term?
Yes.
Right?
All it meant was we're going to print money for our banker friends.
are going to save them.
And all that money went to banks who fueled it into the stock market.
And that's what they did.
So between 2008 and around 2000, and you know, 1620, what occurred is that the economies, the interest rates, if you remember, Mike, were very, very low. - Yes. - And things people need to understand is if you want to take one thing on from this discussion relative to the economy, write down the word money supply.
Money supply is like water coming out of a spigot.
Okay.
He who controls the money supply controls economies.
So they had put all this money out there, more money, right?
More supply of money, just like you have more water, the price of money went down.
So interest rates, they drove down, Mike.
So during that period, remember, 2008-16, the interest rates were very, very low, Mike.
Who did that help?
It really helped people like Jared Kushner.
It helped people like Trump.
It helped all these people who were real estate quote-unquote magnates because they could use that low interest rate to buy other buildings, right?
And be bigger slumlords.
That's what it did.
So the interest rates in the United States were kept artificially low by the Zionist cabal to serve Zionists.
And they could print money at will to support wars.
So the money supply is controlled by a finite set of people who printed it to save their own skin, right?
Not to really fuel a real economy.
Well, by 2017, 18, 19, if you remember, Mike, small businesses like, you know, entrepreneurs was becoming quite vibrant.
The economy was growing again.
And interest rates were edging up.
Because when entrepreneurs grow, we're going to demand more money for loans to grow our businesses.
And the interest rates were easing up, starting to go up.
And this would have been a threat to the call.
And this is why Trump was brought in, Mike.
They needed to keep those interest rates low.
Yeah, Trump argued for negative interest rates, even.
Well, Trump said a lot of stuff.
He also said he was going to lock up Hillary.
He also said he was going to drain the swamp.
He said a lot of things.
But ultimately, what Trump did and supported was this fictitious thing called a pandemic.
The pandemic was created, if you follow the money, as a vehicle To hide this, another economic collapse that was going to take place.
They needed to print more money, Mike.
Yep.
It became stimulus money, yep.
Right.
What did the pandemic do?
It ultimately shut down all these small businesses, Costco's, Amazon, Walmart's.
They were all, 600 billionaires made $2.3 trillion of the $8 trillion Trump printed in one term.
So in one term, $8 trillion get printed.
And you remember that the market was going down and then it comes back up.
So the pandemic was a way that they created a fake crisis to help the banking class.
That's what occurred.
And to keep the zombie economy looking like it's still alive.
Exactly.
But now that zombie economy is approaching its endgame again, so they need another crisis.
Exactly.
If you look at all the indicators, Mike, many, many indicators.
There should have been a crash in October, Mike.
They knew this is coming.
So the United States financial system is running on fumes.
We don't really produce anything.
We don't really innovate.
I'm sorry, Elon Musk is not innovating anything great.
He's a front man for government and we can have a longer discussion on that.
But fundamentally, the U.S. economy is not vibrant.
It's based on printing of money.
Now that, you know, money gets printed and it sort of goes out in the economy.
So they needed another crisis, Mike.
So they tried Ukraine, Mike.
It didn't work too well, okay?
The goal was, remember, less than two months ago, they were discussing, ooh, there could be another variant of COVID. Americans fought back against that.
Right.
So what better way than to create this new crisis in the Middle East?
So it was a meeting of the Zionists in the United States who were very close with Netanyahu, you know, very close, and we should discuss how close they are.
Anthony Blinken is an Israeli citizen.
Yeah.
So is half the CDC. Half the CDC are Israeli citizens.
So why is it that these people are allowed to hold public positions in public office?
So these people are Zionists.
They're able to have dual citizenship in the United States and Israel.
And you find consistently their loyalty, I want to put it broadly, is to Zionism.
It's to Israel.
It is not to the American working people.
So in one of the videos that came out, this young kid is reading out the names of all the people in the CDC who supported the nonsensical policy which helped Big Pharma.
Albert Bourla, another big Zionist, he was honored by Netanyahu in Israel as a lifetime achievement award.
Again, Albert Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer, was honored by Israel, which had a massive vaccination policy.
They collected data on all their citizens to fuel further vaccine research.
But Albert Bourla is a Zionist.
He's out of Israel.
And we need to understand that.
Pfizer's revenue, Mike, if you look from 2012 to 2019, was going down like this.
It was going from $65 billion in revenue down to $40 billion.
Pfizer was headed on its way out of business.
They needed the vaccine, okay?
And everyone should also, we should do some investigation on the trips that Jared Kushner made to Israel and UAE, met with Albert Bourlo.
What was all that about?
But the vaccine ultimately helped the big pharma guys.
And I talked about this back in 2020.
We talked about it.
Our movement talked about this in 2020, Mike.
We came out against lockdowns.
Kennedy was pro-lockdowns.
Trump was pro-lockdowns.
Fauci was pro-lockdowns.
So all of these same people who support Zionism, We're supporting lockdowns.
They supported killing millions of people.
So when we intersect all of this, Mike, what you find is that we're seeing the overt butchering of the Palestinian people, the genocide.
But we must intersect that as Americans with the fact that since 1980, with the policies that started with John Kennedy, with the 1962 Vaccination Act, which allowed government to You know, all these bureaucracies, a creation of multiple departments within the CDC. So the government had a right to jab you.
That began under John Kennedy, 1962 Kennedy Vaccination Act.
And since that point of today, you can see the American lifespan.
Your children, these policies of the left and the right, the Kennedys, are frankly killing American children.
And I don't say this dramatically.
People go to our website.
There's a wonderful graph you'll find in the download section.
It's a graph from 1980, the lifespan going like this, Mike.
It's an upside-down umbrella.
And so if you have a child today, your child will have a shorter lifespan than you.
So that is one of the key performance indicators of all of this is working.
So fundamentally, The US system, the financial system, the medical system, all of these systems have failed America.
So we're actually killing children.
And I say that because your child today will have a shorter lifespan than you.
I'm the only one, Mike, talking about this.
Now you intersect that, the same people who are fine with the last 40, 50 years of passing policies to kill American children.
Why would they care to go?
They have no remorse for going and killing Palestinian children, Mike.
That's what the fundamental issue is.
Of the 8,000 people who have died, at least 50% are women and children.
So we have to go back into the root cause of this.
The root cause is this financial system, the swarm, as I call it, of multiracial aristocracy of people globally who don't care about working people.
Let me bring in something real quick here.
As of today, the time we're recording this, the number of Palestinian civilians who have been killed in IDF bombings of Gaza is at least 8,500.
And I believe it's 60% that are women and children that are known.
In addition, I mean, just the raw numbers are almost triple the casualties of 9-11 in America.
But if you run the calculations per capita versus the population of Gaza, in other words, 8,500 deaths versus 2.3 million people, and you compare that to the per capita deaths of 9-11, Gaza has endured over 300 9-11s per capita.
And that's just in this event, Mike.
And it's not done.
Yeah, the bombings are still happening.
We're not talking about since 1948.
No, no, no.
We're talking about just since October 7th.
Right.
And then for people, this is what stuns me, that you have Christian Zionists in America that say, I'm opposed to abortion.
That all babies should have the opportunity to live.
I want to protect life.
And then you're like, well, what about Gaza?
Oh, bomb the children there.
Bomb those kids.
So, wait a minute.
You're not actually opposed to abortion.
You're in favor of abortion via bombs.
Just not abortion via forceps or whatever Planned Parenthood.
You see, I mean, the inconsistencies of all of this is what is driving me bonkers.
Because, Dr.
Shiva, I'm a principled person.
Although I'm not perfect, I stick to principles as best I can.
When someone says they're pro-life, I take them at their word.
I think they mean, oh, you support all human life.
And the answer is usually no, they don't.
They want to murder these people.
This is what cultural nationalism leads to, Mike.
Cultural nationalism always leads to this fanaticism and these serious inconsistencies.
It becomes quote-unquote religious, Mike.
It's not based on I mean, the quote that I put up on my Twitter feed was, to your point, And to all the Christian Zionists listening, you have to ask yourself, and I hope you guys go pray in quiet and connect with Christ and ask yourself if this is what you want to support.
This is a president of Israel saying, quote, it is an entire nation who are responsible.
This rhetoric about civilians not being involved is absolutely untrue.
We will fight until we break their backs.
And this is a woman, Maya Golan, who's the Israeli Minister of Women's Affairs.
She said, I want to tell the world that they have long known about me and Israel.
Quote, I don't care about Gaza.
I literally don't care about Gaza.
They can go swimming in the sea.
And this is right from the chief Israeli spokesman.
He goes, we are dropping hundreds of tons, tons, not pounds, tons.
One ton is 2,000 pounds.
Hundreds of tons of bombs on Gaza, which means hundreds of thousands of pounds of bombs on Gaza.
The focus is on destruction, not accuracy.
So to your point, Mike, what happens is, Christian Zionism, that's why I put double quotes Christian in my view.
I've been a follower of Christ most of my life, and I have a deep personal relationship.
I don't want to get into it, but I don't believe these people are Christians, man.
This is not Christianity.
This is about Using certain precepts, taking, you know, cherry picking, wrapping it into this eschatological view of Armageddon, and then manipulating, and this is 70 million working people in the United States have become Christian Zionists, Mike.
This is who Mike Johnson comes out of, the current speaker of the House, the second in line to be president.
So the Zionism has literally hijacked America.
And that Zionism basically leads to not a true self-determination for the American people, the interests of the working people of America, but some crazy batshit stuff.
Well, exactly.
To your point, when I hear these people talk and, you know, an eschatological point of view, I think the accurate description is actually a scatological point of view.
Yes, it's very close to that.
Sorry to interrupt, but this interview with Dr.
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Part two will be published separately.
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