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Oct. 15, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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The END TIMES are NOT set in stone - A hope-filled interview...
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Alright, welcome to this Emergency Weekend interview here on BrightTown.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of BrightTown, and today I'm joined by a very special individual, Brad Cummings, who is a Bible scholar.
He's also the publisher of the Founder's Bible here, which is the one that I... Okay, sorry Brad, I thought you were jumping in.
This is the one that I turn to when I have questions about scripture and interpretations and I try to understand it, but my understanding is nothing compared to Brad's understanding and he is going to help us try to navigate what's happening with Israel.
As well as Gaza, the Palestinians, because Brad has traveled extensively in the area, and he has a lot to share with us.
So welcome, Brad Cummings, to the show today.
Oh, I've got to mention your website.
It is thefoundersbible.com.
So welcome, Brad.
It's great to have you on.
Thanks, Mike.
I've really appreciated your take on all of what's going on.
I don't think the mess in Israel and all the...
Decades of hatred, the hundreds of years of animosity is something easy for anyone to solve.
And I just have felt like you have been a voice of sanity and reason trying to process through what seems to be an absolute quagmire that's about to blow up.
Well, thank you for that feedback.
And yeah, I feel and I think our audience feels like it is an insane situation filled with obviously intense hatred.
And I'm just trying to bring some basic principles, humanitarian principles, frankly, to this situation.
And that's being rejected by the players involved.
In fact, I want to start out.
Well, a couple of questions.
I'd really like you to help explain to our audience the importance of the Al-Aqsa Temple to both Judaism as well as Muslim religion.
I'm going to double up the question for you here.
I'd like you to try to explain...
What we are witnessing, which I've spoken out about among Israelis in particular, who have now very openly, openly, the vast majority of Israelis that I have seen and Israel supporters in the United States are calling for the complete extermination of an entire ethnic group of people, the Palestinians, because of the actions of Hamas, which were terrorism actions, no question about it, but Hamas is not.
They do not represent all Palestinians.
So I'd like you to help make sense with those two issues, and we'll go from there.
Does that sound okay?
Yeah.
I don't know that I am a...
I'm an amazing expert in all of this stuff, but I've been over there about six times, and I've been amazed at the people I've had an opportunity to meet and the whole perspectives on it all.
I think when you're over there, a lot of it makes a whole lot more sense than the, I think the news snippets and the agendas and the propaganda we get way over here.
You know, as far as the Al-Aqsa Mosque and what's so important, it's like both Islam and Judaism considered that space, they're one of their most holiest spaces that there is.
On top of the Al-Aqsa Mosque, it's like usually only the Muslims are allowed to go up there.
And only for, you know, special little tours and stuff like that are other people allowed to go up onto that space.
That is sort of like their high holy ground.
It was interesting.
The very first time I went over to Israel, it was back in...
I don't know, 2010, 2011.
And I was there on the day that Aaron's...
It was the anniversary of Aaron's death, Moses' brother.
And so you have about 2,000 of the more devout Israeli folks that are just praying at the Wailing Wall, which is about maybe 50, 60 feet down from the floor level where the Al-Aqsa Mosque is.
What was so crazy, my first introduction is you're looking at all these folks praying at this wailing wall, and then you have some little Muslim kids at the top who are looking down, and they're actually kicking rocks off the top.
And it was then falling down and hitting some of the elderly men that were there at the Wailing Wall, and it was hitting them, and blood started.
It was an immediate picture, just kind of like, my gosh, the hatred that is going on here over this one spot.
It's like, that's where they would declare Solomon's temple is.
That's where the Holy of Holies is in that place, and You know, Judaism has its claims, and Islam has its claims, and I don't know that any of that's ever going to be resolved by the, you know, two folks fighting over it, but that's sort of like the very tensions.
It's the high holy temple place for each of those religions.
Well, yeah, clearly.
But what a lot of us are having difficulty understanding is, I mean, yes, this hatred goes back for centuries, even more than that.
So it's astonishing to hear how many Palestinians, not all, but certainly many, and this is also true with Israelis, but they absolutely want to exterminate the other side.
They believe, and they speak out now, we're seeing this in the last week, they speak out and say that they believe total extermination, genocide, is the answer for the other side.
And we're hearing Israelis say this, and we're hearing some Palestinians, certainly Hamas is saying this.
Hamas believes exterminating all Jews is the answer.
But it's hard for those of us who are not there to understand this level of animosity.
And why is it that, in your view, Brad, that modern-day Israelis, for example, can simply...
We've abandoned overnight ideas of so-called rules of war, not bombing civilians, not killing women and children, things like that.
How is that out the window instantly, in your view?
I think that's what we're being fed.
I think my experiences over there in Israel, I have met people from all spectrums.
Across the board in terms of how they view all of this.
Some of them have been absolutely engendered into indoctrinated hatred and utter racism towards the others.
But I had one experience where I was invited into the Knesset.
And it was back in 2011, and I can't explain to you why I was invited in there.
I was asked to come over to Israel to meet the rabbi of all the rabbis, Rabbi Shalom Arush.
He's considered to be the Messiah of this generation.
And what I didn't understand is that's not a claim of deity.
That's something that all of the rabbis would look at him and say, hey, he really is the anointed representative of what it is that we believe.
We think he sort of lives it the most.
He's the guy that is ministering to the poor of the poor, the drug addicts in the acidic water.
He is a super holy guy.
And why he invited me to come over, at the time, I didn't know.
I got the invitation.
It's a wonderful little story in itself.
But I went over there, and while we were waiting to have our moment with the king, so to speak, It was almost a week in delay where we were over there.
And then I think out of just kindness, someone said, hey, would you like to go and visit the Knesset?
It's like, oh, absolutely.
Sure.
I mean, thankfully, I had a suit along with me so I could look respectable.
And I was given the opportunity to spend the day with the longest serving Israeli elected official on his day of retirement.
And my gosh, the education he provided me over the decades of just what he had witnessed.
He showed me his birth certificate, which was Palestine.
He said, I'm one of the original Palestinians.
I'm an Israeli, but I was here before Israel was made into the modern state, the nation-state of Israel.
And one of the things that I heard over the entire day is just this longing of this elder statesman just saying...
I just have the deepest longing for peace.
We sat in the Knesset and we watched them argue over immigration over the southern border.
And it was all about the Gaza Strip and they would be overrun with Ethiopians coming in.
And it literally devolved into a fistfight.
And he's looking at me and he's saying, what would you do if this was your government?
And he said, we have representative government based upon population.
And they are breeding far faster than we are.
And within 12 years, they will have greater representation within our own government than we will.
And their desire is to annihilate us.
He's referring to the Palestinians?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he's looking at that going, you know, what do we do?
And I'm going like, I don't know what you do.
You know, I'm just learning this for the first time, recognizing this.
And yet he did not have this inbred hatred.
He sat here and he said, you know, all I've never known is that there's this constant war and I just have a longing for peace.
At the end of the day, I'll cut to the chase of why I reached out to you with this story.
He wanted to walk me out at the end of the day.
We had a marvelous time.
I learned so much from their perspectives.
You have a complex problem that defies someone oversimplifying it.
There's been atrocities on both sides.
There has been, that's been initiated and retaliated.
And so it's like, you know, everyone can point fingers.
But his deepest longing is he walked me out to the very end and he said, I want to show you something.
And he took me to this big monument at the outside of the gate.
And it's this big menorah.
And it's this golden lampstand.
And he wanted to read to me the inscription that's on it.
And it's actually a verse from Zechariah.
And he says, it's not by might.
And that's the whole notion of your military power, your human resources, the economic, political power.
And it says, nor by power.
And that's like your human resolve, the utter commitment to do something.
And then he looked at the third part of the verse, and it's like he didn't know how to explain it.
And I said, I know what it says.
But by my spirit, says the Lord.
And when I said that, the craziest thing happened.
The Holy Spirit just sort of fell on that moment.
And he started to weep uncontrollably.
I was shocked by what was going on.
But he was having an experience of that verse again.
And as the presence of God came, I just gave him a little moment to kind of collect himself.
And he looked at me and he says, Do you think this could ever happen?
That we would know peace in my days?
And I said, Well, the very longing that is on that verse is the fact that what seems impossible to us is not impossible for God to come and resolve.
And I wondered for the longest time.
That happened 12 years ago.
And I'm going like, what was that encounter about?
And as the last week, 7 to 10 days, has unfolded, we have one of these impossible-to-resolve human situations where people really are.
It's like they're fomented to absolute hatred and opening the doors for just atrocity and evil.
And I don't know that there's a human solution to it, but I do believe that God can intervene if that's who we would end up turning to.
But that's the key point, right?
We're not seeing Israel nor the United States as nations turn to God.
And ask for God's blessings and repent for the sins that these two nations have committed with many issues, abortion obviously being one of them.
But the United States is clearly adding to the escalation of this war.
We'll get into a little bit of geopolitics here.
There was even a leaked memo that came out earlier today where the U.S. State Department has told all of its employees to never talk about any de-escalation or any freezing.
There shall be no peace.
It's all...
Go, Israel.
Ground war against Gaza.
Wipe them out.
Exterminate them.
We've seen Senator Lindsey Graham talking about just wipe it all out.
Completely destroy Gaza.
We've seen other senators, members of Congress, and so on.
The U.S., in its role right now, is playing the role of the accelerant Of a bomb in the Middle East, whereas you and I, and I think most of our audience, is trying to say, how could we maybe not all kill each other?
How could we find peace?
How could we coexist?
Because, you know, Brad, I mean, isn't it true there are Jews and Muslims and Christians and Arabs coexisting in other countries that do so and have done so for a very long time?
They're not all out trying to murder each other every day.
No, I actually think the overwhelming majority do have some sanity and they do long for peace.
They would much prefer to live their own quiet lives.
I spent a week over in Jordan and the guy that led us, he was a wonderful Muslim man.
And I don't think I've met someone with more integrity...
Deeper ethics and just a passion for people.
And he asked me a really challenging question.
We became wonderful friends.
And he says, I don't understand it, Brad.
He said, you're some holy man, a pastor, a leader in America.
And yet your nation is the biggest perversion and the exporter of that.
It's destroying our younger generation.
Yes, yes, clearly.
And, you know, I was sort of growing up with just the caricatures of what other people believed, and it's like I had been sort of, you know, you see the little clips of these little kids that they're Palestinian kids or Muslim kids, and it's like somehow they just have this indoctrinated hatred of Jews, and you're just going like, oh my gosh, how terrible, that's what they feed their children, and they just sort of raise it up.
It was disturbing for me to find out that that wasn't just, oh, we indoctrinate our kids to a place of hatred, but there's actual atrocities that have been done down through history.
It's like some of the grievous things that we would look about as far as child sacrifice and all the kind of, you know, the kidnapping and atrocities.
And it's like, I'd love to say that those aren't true.
But the problem is, I was seen firsthand with people who were like, no, that's not hyperbole.
That's not just indoctrinated racism and hatred.
We've suffered that, and there is no justice.
And I'm sitting here going like, wow, I'm having to deal with the reality of going like all of my little shallow superficial assumptions of what is true was just being challenged.
And I'm going like, oh, my gosh, there really is history here.
And if you go back, you know, it's like the whole notion of Israel and who is Israel.
That just seems like to be taboo that you're not allowed to even take a look at that.
But in the Old Testament, it's like the 10 northern tribes, they went whole in on Baal and Molech worship.
And they were just they were destroyed.
They weren't lost.
God pulverized them and allowed the Assyrians to come in and absolutely ransack everything.
And I don't think people are honest and realize the fact that there's some deep-seated, horrific religious practice and sacrifice rituals to the fallen.
And the supposed notion of the special chosen people of God, that actually doesn't come from the scriptures.
That comes from the Babylonian Talmud.
Most of the Israeli rabbis that I have gotten to know, they know more about the Babylonian Talmud than they do...
We think they just read the Old Testament scriptures.
And so when you look at this, there's a lot of real awful stuff that comes from the Talmud and the practice of Baal and Molech worship.
And it's like that's involved in this whole mess.
And no one seems to want to take a look at that.
I'm glad you pointed that out.
This is something that's been really bothering me these past few days, where we have nations, and I'm going to say Israel and the United States, the only two nations I'm aware of that were founded on Christian principles.
I'm talking about the 1948 Israel.
And yet both of these nations are involved in abortion, child mutilations, wokeism, which is the transgenderism, brainwashing, exploitation of children, and mutilating children, chemical castrations.
But also, especially in the United States, child trafficking, but there's an element of that in Israel as well.
And There's this contradiction in the culture where the cultures say, well, we're the chosen ones.
God has chosen us, especially in Israel.
God has chosen our nation to be the special nation, the exceptional nation.
And geopolitically in America, we are told we are the exceptional nation geopolitically.
Our dollar shall reign supreme.
Our policies, our navy shall reign supreme, which it did since World War II, although that's ending.
But all of that, that specialty, that special recognition that is claimed by people who say God shines his love upon us, that stands in contradiction to the unwillingness of the populations of these two nations to face the truth about child trafficking, mutilations, baby murder, harvesting organs from babies, which the FDA does in the United States, and so on.
Those two things can't coexist.
I mean, you can't be a nation steeped in such evils and then think, oh, God is going to look upon us with such favor.
Or am I wrong in that?
No, absolutely not, Mike.
The reality is we have a historical foundation for our nation and for the original, in the Bible, nation of Israel.
But if we forsake those foundations, we don't get to claim some special chosen protectiveness.
It's like, you know what?
If we're faithless, we open ourselves up to the very real things of the effects of what we worship.
You know, Putin, I think it was like about a decade ago at an international gathering, he made a statement, America wasn't there, but he made a statement that 70% of the elected officials of America are open Luciferian, satanic worshippers.
And it's like, when you get, you're just like, oh my gosh, that's a pretty...
But he was making the statement that so much of it is tied to Freemasonry.
And when you look at the foundations of that, that is open Luciferian worship at the very core.
And you can't get anywhere in our political world unless you sort of subscribe to Freemasonry.
That's how you elevate yourself within our systems.
Well, that's our elite class.
Those are our leaders.
That's not our rank and file nation.
So when God looks down at the nation...
I do think he sees a difference between the people And those rulers who are sort of ruling over them.
And I think that's both good and bad news.
One, we're allowing it because we're not doing our job to be the check and balance on them.
But the other thing is, I don't think God looks down at the nation of America or even Israel.
And because of the guilt of their leaders, he now assigns guilt to the entire nation.
I think there really is a just God who's looking down, and the problem is if we don't, as the citizens of those nations, get engaged in bringing some correction and some restraint to those that lead us, if we sit in a powerless position, then we're kind of like accomplices to what goes on.
But we do have the capacity to engage.
I mean, I think that's why this discussion in your voice is that important.
Okay, you brought up a really important point, but let me challenge the difficulty that many people have.
For example, if you're living as a Palestinian in Gaza, you are probably powerless to stop Hamas from within, because Hamas has such political and coercion power across Gaza.
Even if you are not a supporter of Hamas, you are probably subject to its rule over that zone.
Similar thing in America.
The American people voted for Trump in 2020.
The election was stolen from them.
Clearly rigged.
Yep.
Massive ballot box, counting the same ballots over and over again.
The people expressed their desire to not be ruled by Satanists.
Right.
And yet, we are ruled by Satanists.
Right.
Right.
And similar situations in Israel, a lot of internal strife there, a lot of disagreement from the different factions, a very strong disagreement, and yet Netanyahu has been in power for almost a quarter of the existence of Israel, even though he's not liked by the majority of Israelis, especially now.
So, you know, what can the people do?
Here's, and I don't want to just sort of gloss over this, we do have an accord of appeal.
It is the Supreme Court of Heaven.
And I do think that your prayers, my prayers, are collective.
Of saying, hey, this is wrong.
In the human court, I don't seem to have any lever of power that I can move that is going to unseat these people.
They seem to be entrenched in power, and bad guys are not going to leave on their own.
So we can see ourselves as being powerless, but my experience in life is we're not.
We can go before the throne of God and we can fast and pray.
In the history of America, you would be utterly shocked how many times the various colonies, the various states, the various governors at moments of crisis called the entire colony or the entire set of colonies to a time of prayer, fasting, and humiliation.
And as I have been a student of history, those are the things that shifted our nation's history.
Those are the moments that actually, in ancient Israel, proclaim a holy fast.
And it's like, when people actually do that, not just the token, like, okay, you know, we're around the dinner table, so we're going to say our prayers, or we're going to say, oh, I'm going to pray for you.
But the truth is, we never actually engage before the living God.
The experience I mentioned with that, you know, longest serving elected official of the Israeli government, That was such a profound experience because you don't think of most Jews today who are...
Most of them are secular.
They're not really religious.
If you go around most of Israel, 90% of it is pretty much just secular.
It's not very different than walking through Los Angeles.
It's like you have your super ultra-Orthodox folks, but then you have the bulk of everyone else.
They're just being people.
And the problem that we have is most folks that do say they know God...
They don't actually spend time before him and say, hey, this is way above our pay grade.
I feel utterly powerless, but you're not.
And how do I engage with you, God, in such a way that we can shift things?
Because in America, the we, the people, we're actually the forgotten sovereign.
We're actually the top of the totem pole in terms of how our government's established.
But I don't think we use our voice and I don't think we engage our spiritual resources.
Yes, well...
A lot of people tried to use their voice on January 6th, right?
And they've ended up political prisoners.
And we do see, of course, the persecution of Christian pastors and preachers, for example, in Canada.
They've imprisoned one particular pastor there.
and in the United Kingdom across Western Europe.
It's illegal to quote scripture in many countries.
There is a criminalization of Christianity and, of course, the rejection of Christian principles in the schools.
But I understand what you're saying.
None of that stops a person from praying at home or with family in their private homes and repenting for the sins of their own life or the lives of their nation members I mean, the government can't stop you from praying in your own home.
No.
And the truth is, we're not powerless there.
Because I sort of feel like, you know, a lot of people, they don't experience the supernatural miracle-working power of God.
I really don't understand Christianity apart from that because it's not just an ethics thing.
It's not just membership at a little religious club.
I mean, you know, I think that's empty and it doesn't work for much of people.
And the truth is that the gospel was never supposed to be a words-only message.
It was supposed to be power and demonstration.
And so the truth is we're at a low ebb, and I understand that.
But as someone that does know the living God, We can do mighty things.
It's like God and you, frankly, are a majority.
And, you know, I remember on January 5th, we were at a prayer gathering, you know, approaching January 6th.
And in the midst of that prayer gathering, God laid a scripture on my heart that was out of Ezekiel.
And it says, and I sought for a man.
Someone who would stand in the gap.
And I knew exactly what that was about.
God was simply looking for someone who would say, hey, I have a will up in heaven that I would like to exercise down here on earth, but I've given dominion over the earth unto the race of man.
You and I are decision makers, and because of what we choose to do, and the collective humanity, what we choose to do, that's why things are happening on earth the way they are.
I can't just overrule and stop a bad guy from doing a bad thing, but I can invite heaven into the situation, and then it's like amazing things can happen.
So I want to encourage people.
We're not powerless, but we are if we choose not to engage in the only court of appeal that I know of.
Okay, really important points that you've just laid out there.
Yeah.
So let me ask you where this goes next, and then...
How we the people can invoke God's presence, possibly achieve some measure of peace, because it feels like we're on a track.
Actually, it feels like we're on a runaway train that's about to head off of a broken bridge across a chasm.
The train's going to plunge into the valley below and explode and burn everybody alive.
And we're all on this train, and it's horrifying.
And we're seeing the U.S. pushing for war and Israel, especially Netanyahu, politically is internally pressured to make sure that there's a full attack on Gaza for his own political survival.
Because if he loses his position of power, he's probably going to prison quite, quite clearly.
But other nations are involved.
Iran has just issued a statement that says if Israel attacks Gaza, then Iran will get involved.
You can only imagine what that means.
And Iranian militias in Syria and Damascus mentioned in the Bible and Turkey and Jordan and Hezbollah, Lebanon, Israel.
Egypt, even, which has blocked the exit on the southwestern portion of the Gaza Strip.
Concrete blocks there to say, no, the Palestinians shall not flee to Egypt, which, of course, has all kinds of biblical echoes right there.
How do we make sense of where this is going?
Because none of it looks good, Brad.
None of it.
Oh, no.
I mean, it does look like it's going off a cliff and it's going to end up with some sort of potential nuclear exchange.
I don't want to pretend like that isn't staring us in the face.
I think it is.
I just know that God up in heaven, the Bible is replete with moments where people went before God.
And because they actually came in a place of repentance.
Daniel is probably the longest standing political official through the generations in that area.
And what he's absolutely known for is going before God.
And repenting on behalf of all of the people and the mistakes.
And God would answer him.
And you would see things shift and change.
And because of that, I'm left with the fact that we can do something.
Can I somehow, you know, do I have human power in this natural realm where there's a lever that I can change that will get this to stop?
No.
I feel powerless and I'm not in Gaza.
I'm not in the predicament that those people are on a sacrificial altar of the elites.
It's like, you know, we've lost our humanity because they're just willing to just trash and bomb and genocide the whole place.
And it's like, guess what?
God will not let that go unanswered.
A friend of mine, strong prophetic gift, and this might be odd for some folks, but he had a dream back in 2018.
And the dream was there was a whole flood of rockets that were being sent into Israel in particular.
And it's a lot like what we have been watching.
And it escalated.
In the dream it escalated to, you know, other nations were involved.
And then of all horrible things, there was a nuclear bomb that was dropped in this dream on the wicked city.
And I would suggest that I'm pretty sure that's Tel Aviv.
I mean, in terms of what it's known for and what goes on there, it's like that is one of the most, you know, that's one of the most wicked places, one of the gayest cities on the planet.
And that happens in the dream.
And that's awful.
But what happens out of it is that all of a sudden it's like this, oh, the special chosen people of God were immune to anything.
It's like, no, no.
There is retribution from heaven, and it does bring forth, in the dream, a whole nationwide repentance.
Oh, wow.
I'm listening to this.
I heard this five years ago, and it was horrific and going like, ooh, I don't want that to happen.
But it was a complete unexpected reversal that actually brought people to, it's like, Beyond their platitudes, it's like it brought a sobering reality of life and the fact that, you know what?
I don't have any immunity anywhere.
I'm responsible.
I'll call it a spiritual reset.
Moment that needs to happen, because as we have been living over these past few years, we've all witnessed pure evil rising up, gaining more power and more control.
The Luciferians, the satanic influence of every institution, including, of course, pop culture, Hollywood, the music industry, Netflix, you know, like sorcery for children, you know, movies about that and so on.
A demon impregnating a young girl.
And that's like that's that's the Netflix feature now.
The evil keeps rising and good people keep getting shot down or imprisoned or silenced or censored because of the censorship between government and big tech.
This is not sustainable, though.
Correct.
I mean, throughout the history of the Bible even shows that there is an end.
There's a limit to how much evil can take over society before there is a kind of reset.
There is, and it's not just amongst the covenant-keeping nations.
God is the father of all the families on the planet.
He doesn't have just one special chosen set of kids.
I mean, I absolutely hate and despise that.
That gets me branded a heretic and thrown out of a lot of people's perspectives.
But the truth is, there's not a single human being on this planet that God doesn't love.
down his life for to make salvation possible.
The real question is, in all of the insanity of what's going on, will we turn to him?
Not will we celebrate about him?
Not will we whine and moan, bitch and complain about everything going on?
But will we actually turn to him and say, hey, God, do you have issue?
Not just with me, but with us.
I mean, I'd What happens in Israel is not going to be very far from what happens here on our own doorstep.
Exactly.
That's a really critical point.
Nobody's immune.
If this goes unchecked, this will spiral.
There won't be any place that doesn't have its own war front that's going on.
And so the reality is it's team humanity against team tyranny all over the planet.
And we have to start inspiring one another to say, hey, I don't have some religious agenda.
I do want to survive.
And I do want to respect you.
And I do want to give you the freedom.
You get to choose how you behave.
But we're going to have to come together.
And there's only one place I know to go to help right now.
And that is the living God.
And it's not the olly olly income free.
And it's like, you know, there is truth and error.
But I don't really need to argue with people about anything right now other than the urgency of this moment.
And we do have a place that we can go.
I go before God and it's like, hey...
What do we do?
How in the world did I find myself in the Knesset?
Why did I get invited over to this rabbi of all rabbis?
And let me tell you this, which just rocked my world.
It took almost like 10 days waiting for an appointment with this man.
And finally we're there.
And I get to his front door.
And I'm the first Gentile he's ever received into his home.
And you're going like, why?
I mean, who am I? I don't have an answer for you, Mike.
I don't have some special pedigree.
I'm not some important bigwig.
I'm just a person.
And I am a lover of God.
And that man got my name in a dream.
And he sent someone to come find me.
I was in Nashville, Tennessee, visiting a friend in one of the suburbs of Franklin, and an envoy of Rabbi Shalom Arush's shows up at my friend's front door and asks for me.
And I'm going like, Nobody knows I'm here.
So who is this guy?
And I get this crazy story that I'm being invited over to Israel to meet with Rabbi Shalom Arush, and I'm told that these rabbis are filled with the Holy Spirit and they move in the gifts.
And I'm going like...
I've never heard of that before.
That's kind of crazy.
If that's actually real, I'm kind of interested in going just to find out if that's real.
I wasn't told why he wanted to meet with me, but when I was there...
What was amazing to me is that his receptionist, his assistant, she treated me like I was a hot steaming pile of uncleanness and she was not going to let me into the door.
I've never experienced that kind of sort of racism and just where your sense of value just thrown out the window.
And I didn't know how to even handle that moment.
Rabbi Shalom Arush pushed her aside, came out, and he wrapped his arms around me and walked me into his house.
And he glared at everyone else in such a way as to say, I accept this man and I expect you to as well.
And what he went on to say is he said, Brad, I would like you to help me take this message to the world.
And I'm kind of going like, dude, I really don't know who you think I am, but I'm listening, but I have no idea how I think I'm going to help you.
Well, we're doing it right now, aren't we?
I kind of think maybe, to some degree.
I mean, this is part of what you do.
You do many interviews.
You're a publisher.
So he did choose the right person.
I'm just saying.
Sorry to interrupt.
And at the time, we did have a best-selling book that sold 22 million units that went all over the world.
So I do know why he might have reached out to me.
But at the time, he said, Brett, salvation is found through faith in God and relationship with Period.
And I'm going like, I'm down with that.
I totally agree with that.
But I looked at him and I said, Rabbi Shalom, that's not what I've been taught you believe.
He said, well, it is what I believe.
Interesting.
And I said, well...
What about the Torah?
What about the law and all these things that I and my seminary degree background have been taught?
This is what Judaism is all about.
This is what everyone else believes.
And he said, Brad, the Torah was a special gift to us as a people, but it's not what saves us.
He said it was there as a guide, a teacher, to show us of our need for Him.
And they think God's name is so holy that they don't call him by his name.
They call him Hashem, the name.
And it's a little odd to me, but it's like I get what it's from.
But when I looked at him, I said, you know, I would love to help you.
But it's not what your books actually say.
I've read all of your books in preparation for this meeting.
And I said, they don't say that in the simplicity of what you just communicated to me.
So he looked around the room, and it's like he's glaring at all of his associates going like, who messed this up?
Why is it that this message is not so clear?
And what it told me is, I've been taught a lot of things about a lot of people.
But when you actually meet them, they're far different.
And I've come to realize I don't want to have a single stereotype that I then paint over anyone else in terms of I think I know what they believe.
It's like, you know what, until you actually meet them and know them, you don't.
You know, when we use these sort of monolithic stereotypes of people, they're all wrong.
You know, there's some things that might be there, but most of them are wrong.
But Brad, I greatly appreciate what you're saying.
And this is one of the core issues that we're dealing with here right now, which is that much of humanity has become so tribal, where they assign these properties to all these other groups of people that they've never met.
And or they assign values based on the actions of one person.
And I remember, you know, we're taught, especially in liberal democracies, we are taught that you never assign to an entire ethnic group the actions of certain individuals.
For example, in America, if a black person commits a crime, we are always reminded it's not all black people.
Or if a white person commits a crime or if a Hispanic person commits it, especially in America.
We are taught you don't judge people by their ethnicity, their religion, their gender, their orientation, any of these things.
And then we go to the Middle East and everybody's judging everybody precisely by their ethnicity, where they live, or What their perceptions are without having evidence of individuals' merit.
And it's stunning to all of us to say that the Middle East, especially Israel, is supposed to be this nation of God that is supposed to be, with an asterisk, they're obedient to God.
And then also, in the Muslim world, they say they are obedient to Allah.
And yet, both of these groups just want to mass murder each other.
It's...
I don't mean to bring us back to where we started here, but it's unthinkable to many of us who want peace as to why we can't have a society where we judge other people by their merit and their actions and their morals rather than their ethnicity.
And the truth is, I do believe we can.
We're not going to ever get that from the media because you know who controls the media.
So when we're trying to get our information, we really are algorithm to our corners.
You know, we are given the sound bites and that's how they gin things up.
And I think one of the biggest challenges that we all face in just about everything that's going on is how do I not just become indoctrinated with the news and the perceptions of what's being fed to me all the time?
I mean, it's like several times I've taken a fast of just, you know, stopping listening and forming and researching.
And I'll be honest, my life changes dramatically because it's not filled and flooded with all the opinions of everybody else that are almost always...
In an agitated state of arguing and driving someone to some finished agenda of theirs.
I think one of the things that global peace would happen by a single solar flare so big...
Which is shut down.
All the different stuff that foments and gets us all.
And so part of me is going like, you know, there is a heavenly reset button that if we get to that point where it's almost like we're there and the brink of it, you know what?
It can all shut down and we're back to, you know, mid-1800s.
And chances are, you'll find there will be a great deliverance Of people's perceptions and mindset because we won't be in the MK-ultered reality of what we're constantly bombarded with.
Good description.
I don't think that's a tiny thing.
I think that is a constant.
We're being programmed to think a certain way.
We're being driven with passions.
They know how to do that.
They have technology beyond what we really have a grasp of that just foments us up.
It's constant.
It's to truly walk in an intimacy, not some religious thing, in a true intimacy with God that says, guess what, God?
I need your directives.
I need you to tell me what's true, and then I need to be able to judge all the rest of the information out there accordingly.
Okay, well said.
Let me ask you this question.
It's kind of related, but very important to cover.
I want your opinion as a pastor and a Bible scholar.
Are we locked in to the end times prophecies of the Bible?
Because I'm hearing a lot of comparisons right now to end times, tribulation, a lot of prophecies about where things are going.
But are we locked in or not?
Do we have a choice?
Absolutely not.
Case in point, the whole book of Ezekiel.
The last few chapters of Ezekiel picture this third temple in a way that it's like never, you know, you wouldn't, it doesn't exist.
And when Jesus died on the cross as the sacrifice once for all, we're never going back to animal sacrifices.
So all this effort of the way people view a lot of the end times and the rebuilding of a third temple, you're just going like, wait a minute, we have an event through all time and space and history that has changed everything.
It doesn't make Ezekiel some false prophet, but guess what?
That vision, that stuff is not going to happen.
It's been edited.
And you go to Luke 19, to a place where Jesus is looking over this same city of Jerusalem, and he's weeping.
Over Jerusalem.
This is God, very God in human flesh, but it's the man Christ Jesus with emotions.
And he's looking at the city and he's weeping.
And he says, if only you had known the things which would make for peace.
But because you do not, you will miss your day of visitation and your house will be left to you desolate.
That doesn't sound to me like we have a fatalistic set of outcomes.
We have a moment where God is going, expressing through Jesus, I want a different outcome.
If you had only known what needed to happen for things for peace, then we wouldn't have what's about to unfold.
And so I don't believe that the Bible ever suggests we are locked into some fatalistic set of outcomes.
A lot of the church has been taught to read it that way, and I really think it's bunk.
And, you know, in Genesis 5, you have this moment where God's looking down upon the earth.
And for generations, it has gone from bad to worse.
And it says that when God came down, He looked upon the earth, He repented of having ever made man.
And talk about all the sermons never preached.
It's like people do gymnastics trying to get around what that verse means.
And what that verse means is God had a desire, and that's not what was happening on the earth.
And then it's not like, oh gee, I made a mistake, or I sinned, so I've got to...
It's like, no, God didn't make a mistake, but God does allow things to go to a certain point...
And then at that point, he intervenes.
The whole flood is not a maniacal, homicidical maniac that's just pissed off at planet Earth and so he destroys everybody.
It's God saving.
It's the greatest rescue story never told.
In the days of Noah, the genetics just were destroyed everywhere.
And it's like you no longer had but eight human beings.
And God came down and he saved those eight human beings because if he didn't act then, there would be no human lineage for the Savior to come through.
I'm glad you mentioned that.
I wanted to ask you about the flood and the fact that right now, because of the so-called vaccines, we have transhumanism, people being injected by the billions with something that is genetically an affront to God.
And, you know, aren't we long past the things that triggered God's response in the days of Noah?
Aren't we way past that now?
I don't know that we are way past it.
We're on the pathway to it because...
Most everybody is being genetically modified against their own will.
They don't know what's going on.
I don't know a lot of people say, please, other than Yuval Harari, he seems to be the one that says, hey, enough of humans.
Let's really jump down that whole rabbit trail.
There's a whole reality that a lot of Bible folks, they don't know, and they're kind of frightened of.
The whole Nephilim, the giants in the land, the fact that the fallen angels having sex...
With humans and bringing forth a progeny, and you're just going like, that's not made in the image of God?
We're headed towards a time where it's like, it says, as it was of the days of Noah, so it shall be in the end.
And that's where there's a whole complete genetic, at the DNA level, modification of human beings.
And you're going like, I plan to remain an organic, made-in-the-image human because that's who we reflect.
That's where my salvation is found.
That's who my protector is.
But I do think we're going to see in the next decades.
I don't think we're right at the end, to be honest.
I mean, all the end times talk, I think, is most people, they shift into a fatalism and they've bought into this belief of a promise that just says, hey, when it all gets bad, I won't be here.
And so they don't do anything about what's going on on the planet.
No, I hear that from a lot of people, too, who say, yeah, we're going to be lifted up and taken away.
We won't have to deal with any of this.
But I agree with you that we can't know the timing of this.
We can't know the trigger points.
And I kind of get the sense that Unless someone watching this plans to die soon, you're going to live through hell on earth.
Because look at what's happening with Israel in the Middle East right now.
Yeah, the promise is, I'm not the object of God's wrath.
He's not coming to destroy me.
But He is...
There is a point in the Bible where God basically says, okay, he rolls up his sleeves, and then he starts coming, and there is an absolute separation between the wicked and And he does come and he does bring judgment upon the wicked.
Nations are not judged in the hereafter.
Nations will be judged in the here and now.
And it's not just, gee, we had a hurricane.
Oh, so it's the judgment of God.
It's like, no, no.
In the Bible, when God brings judgment, he always sends a messenger ahead of time and he declares that there's an issue.
And he puts the terms on the table and he tells them, here's what's wrong.
And he does give them an opportunity to change.
If they don't, then the hammer drops.
Has that messenger arrived for us?
To be honest, I don't think so with clarity.
I think if you're spiritually minded, you ought to be hearing this in your own prayer time with God.
You ought to be vexed on the inside knowing, my gosh, there are so many things that are absolutely wrong.
The one thing that doesn't seem to be happening anywhere is justice.
There's no accountability for the wrongdoing.
Clear wrongdoing.
We all see it.
We all know it.
But there's no human agency that is willing to walk that out and actually bring consequences to the evildoers.
That's a fundamental job of government.
And guess what?
When the government doesn't do its job, who does it then befall?
Excuse me, you and I, we're not exempted from this.
This is those moments where we have a duty part of the Declaration.
Right?
When government has gone wrong, it's now our job to do something about it.
And that's the scary part.
That's where everyone kind of goes quiet.
Because it's like, ooh, now we're getting to the big boy pants time.
And it's like, yes, we are.
And as a collective humanity, we have to look to our neighbors.
I don't get to just do this as my vote.
I'm not the sovereign.
We, the people, are the collective sovereign.
And we will either go along as victims to what's happening, or we will draw our line in the sand, and we will say, no, we're not doing this.
I mean, your voice has been constantly chiming on that.
We cannot comply.
And if it's just a few of us, we're roadkill.
But if it's the many of us, we actually have a different future that we can chart.
It's going to be super difficult between here and there, and there's going to be a lot of collateral damage everywhere.
I don't want to pretend like this isn't high stakes and it's real lives.
It is.
Yeah.
But we actually have to get to that point inside where we're just going like, wait a minute.
I'm tired of watching the heroic movie guy.
When do those people show up?
When do you and I say, okay, enough's enough?
Well, I have long had this internal drive, as you know, to speak out against injustice and to speak on behalf of the innocent who often cannot speak for themselves.
And for whatever reason, God has blessed me with the voice, the resources, the reach.
And I intend to use it every day to call for peace and humanity and obedience to God, by the way.
And so, Brad, I want to give you a chance here in the last few minutes Tell us about your Bible here, the Founder's Bible, and what I love about it.
For example, these interludes about historical weaving in America's history with Scripture.
Tell us about this amazing book.
There's about 1,200 pages of some of the most inspiring history, foundations of government, and just about every issue under the sun that's addressed today.
From both a biblical perspective and from the perspective of the founders who basically laid down the foundation for this nation.
They were such an incredible set of folks.
They were not sinless.
They were not perfect in any way, shape, or form.
They were just as messed up as you and I, but they had an incredible desire to see freedom for everyone.
It's the first time you had elites of the world that were breaking from the world system and saying, you know what?
This is not just for us.
This is for the collective common man.
And they laid down a foundation that would allow that to be possible.
I think what's in the Founders Bible is the kind of time-tested wisdom and truth.
David Barton is our signature historian.
He's got a vault of original source documents that's second only to the Library of Congress.
We weren't trafficking in people's opinions.
He was showing me letters, handwritten letters of George Washington and Jefferson.
And when you started to read these things, it's like you sat there and go like, oh my gosh, we have been absolutely lied to.
These people were passionate pursuers of the living God.
And they were trying to say, how does this work in society for us?
And so we've kind of like taken the best of the best of 30 years of David's life in ministry.
And I remember when I was sitting there in my hotel room, I'd spent three days with him.
And we were pursuing some other business venture.
And I heard God speak.
It's crazy that it says, I want you to do the Founder's Bible.
And I'm like, what's that?
And he says, it's everything that you've been seeing and been inspired by, but feathered throughout.
I said, we...
He said, I want people to know my purpose for this nation as a light unto the nations.
This is not about some raw, raw America thing.
This is about God's desire for freedom, liberty for the common man.
And we've pulled together.
It took us...
Eight months of 20 hour days to put that together.
Normally you'd do some project, you know, it'd be almost two years in the making.
We didn't have time.
It was too important.
And it was a blast to kind of just sort of sow my entire field under, plow it under and go like, I don't know what this is going to cost.
We had no budget.
We just had a project and a passion and we did it.
I nearly bankrupt myself in the process of trying to make it happen.
I don't think there's a finer resource for anybody anywhere if you want to understand how you establish a common society that actually does have a government.
That will honor the principles and foundations that allows for the very thing that you're appealing, Mike, that we actually could live together in peace and harmony without my forcing my beliefs and convictions upon you.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Let me give out the website, thefoundersbible.com.
Yep.
That's the site where people can get this.
And you have some available, I assume.
We do.
We have been in a nightmare job of, I think, every demon under hell has been trying to prevent me from this last print run, but we have a good 20,000 of the hardcovers, and I have the Leathersoft and the Heirloom Edition.
It's all the same interiors, they're just different bindings, but yeah, they can order them and we can get them out, but If we don't actually understand the contract that we have kind of with God and with each other, we're never going to live it.
And so if people are ignorant of this stuff, I mean, I'm not doing this to make money.
I'm doing this to find freedom and save my own family.
And I want to live here.
God's not finished with us in any way, shape, or form.
We're not just going down the toilet and spinning as we go.
It's like...
I think what God began, God is going to finish.
And we're not done.
But we're going to have to go through some really ugly, tough times because we haven't...
We've got to sleep at the wheel as a nation, as a people.
Oh, clearly.
Clearly.
And so we're going to have to...
I mean, here's my appeal to us in America.
And I think it's true for the whole situation in Israel.
We collectively have to look at each other and say, you know what?
We're not party to this.
This involves us and humanity.
And I can't do this sitting over on the sidelines, hoping and wondering how this is going to hand out.
I have to be engaged.
When Benjamin Franklin was asked, what kind of government do we have?
And he responded, a republic, ma'am, if you can keep it.
The reality is, we've not done the keeping part.
And I don't need to make anyone feel bad, but had we done the keeping part, we wouldn't be here.
We wouldn't be on the brink of World War III. We wouldn't be in a situation.
If we were the watchdog as the citizenship that we're supposed to be, and we actually took action against those that were going like, wait a minute, that's wrong.
You can't do that.
They did that in the early days of this nation.
That's why it was so prosperous.
We have stopped doing that, and that's why we're in the kind of crisis we are.
We're always looking for someone else to fix it.
That day is gone.
It's going to require you and going to require me and everybody else to get this thing back on track.
Well said, Brad.
I completely agree with you and I believe your words will inspire our viewers and many others to pursue this peaceful activism but spiritually guided activism to take our constitutional republic back and even in Israel to Assert the true laws of God and the respect for fellow human beings that did give rise to civilization and abundance.
And when we abandon those principles, then horrible things happen to our nations, our people, and our tribes, by the way.
But Brad, we're out of time for tonight.
I want to thank you for joining me so late for this emergency interview.
I really appreciate your guidance, your words.
Thank you so much for joining me.
Absolutely, Mike.
Appreciate it.
Okay.
All right.
Be well and stand by.
Don't disconnect quite yet.
Folks, I just want to remind you again, if you want to support Brad's work, truly this is an outstanding rendition of the Bible intertwined with American history in a way that you've never seen before.
Visit thefoundersbible.com and you can acquire them there and you can support Brad's efforts, which have been extensive and have reached many millions of people all around the world in ways that we didn't even have time to talk about tonight.
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Thank you for joining me tonight.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com.
God bless you all and may we all pray for peace.
in a war...
in a world that seems to be headed for war.
But perhaps as Brad said, we can do something about that with God's help.
Thank you for watching.
God bless you all.
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