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June 28, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Intelligence officer Jeffrey Prather talks with Mike Adams about China, Taiwan, Russia...
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And today I'm joined by Jeffrey Prather.
And of course, he has not only his own website, Jeffrey Prather.com, but also he's a host of his own show on Brighteon.tv.
He's got an amazing new webinar coming up in July that we'll talk about.
He's an intelligence officer who is on our side.
And welcome, Jeffrey.
It's great to have you on and thank you for all that you're doing for our country, our republic, and team humanity.
Welcome.
Mike, my old friend, it's great to be back with you again, and congrats on all your great work, and proud and happy to be on Brettian.
Well, I'm just happy to have you back here.
It's too long.
We've got to have you on at least once a month if you have time.
I mean, you have such great intelligence.
When I do catch your reports, they're packed with good intel.
Where do you want to start right now, actually?
I mean, I have so many global concerns to run past you, but what's on your mind to begin with that we need to know about?
Well, thank you.
And right back at you.
You're doing great work.
And I've seen my friend Michael Yan on there.
And well, as an intelligence officer on the people side, I'd kind of like to triage the priority of enemies out there because there's an array of enemies and a myriad of conflicts going on.
You know, mostly it's fifth generation warfare conflict.
And, you know, I assess as China as the major nation state enemy.
But really, and I'm going to be talking about this in detail in Navigating the Climate Collapse.
Thanks for promoting that event.
We had about 400 on the first one.
We'll probably have 500 folks on this one.
But really, I think it is the deep states, DOJ and FBI, Running a counterinsurgency against the American people.
And I don't think a lot of people realize that, maybe not even understanding what counterinsurgency is.
But, you know, through our work, you know, and Brighton work and, you know, where we were.
I remember we were some of the first speakers at Clay Clark's Freedom and Health.
And we were kind of both of us were kind of surprised at our the response.
But the DOJ is really running a counterinsurgency operation, kind of like their COINTELPRO, to stop the American resistance that is building.
And, of course, what they're doing is illegal, immoral, unethical and violent.
Nothing we're doing is any of that.
But I don't think people realize that.
I think a lot of people are focused on the Chinese threat, which is real.
There are Chinese military-age fighting men coming across.
The Chinese special operations, they're coming across.
The Taliban, ISIS is coming in, less so with the Russians.
But this is all able to happen because of the buy-in by the FBI and the DOJ. And the FBI is really a storefront for the intelligence community.
And the intelligence community is really a storefront for the deep state or the double government.
So this double government that you just described appears to many people to be at war with the American people.
That's another way, I think, to describe what you're calling a counterinsurgency.
They are weaponizing the DOJ and the FBI against the American people.
They are weaponizing the surveillance apparatus.
To illegally monitor private conversations, private behavior, private website accesses, banking, and so on by the American people.
They've launched a massive disinformation moderation industry, which puts government in cahoots, you could say, with big tech to decide which accounts, which voices must be censored in silence.
And then at the same time, Joe Biden stands up there and says he's fighting to save democracy.
I mean, what do you make of that?
Well, so we just saw Blinken go over there to China, and when you go to somebody, you are subservient to somebody.
And what came out of that is there's now Chinese spy balloons over Montana again.
The DOD says that's okay.
So that's what they have acquiesced to, is to be spied on.
And probably I think there are swarm bots, micro drones or swarms of smaller drones being dropped out of those balloons.
That's one of the things I think to then do more LIDAR territory mapping for control.
But this is the same thing with Blinken saying, hey, we don't want this...
Chinese training center in Cuba trying to channel Kennedy about the Cuban Missile Crisis when there are multiple Chinese intelligence centers operating right here in America in at least seven cities, maybe more.
And what about the number of Chinese, or let's say, communist Chinese, I don't know if you can call them troops, but certainly military-age men, many members of the CCP that are coming across the border?
You mentioned Michael Yan earlier.
Of course, he's a frequent guest here on this show as well.
And his information is first-hand information, so he's not relying on just OSINT or anything like that.
He's looking, he's watching the Chinese migrants slash invaders come across through the Darien Gap.
So that's first-hand information.
We are being occupied, but for what exactly, Jeffrey?
What's the endgame or the pivot point of this occupation?
Yeah, Michael is great.
He's been on my show often.
He, like I, and former Special Forces, he goes right down to the Darien Gap.
He spent there a lot more time than I have, and I think he broke the story of the UN giant camp down there, and now there are camps all along, exposing the international corporate cartels of child trafficking, Sex trafficking, along with the drug trade, but that is separate as well.
But, you know, I'd kind of like to hear your opinion, because you speak Mandarin, I believe it is.
But my assessment, along with other Special Forces intelligence personnel, former intelligence personnel, is that the Chinese fighting men, the military fighting men that are coming in, they're soldiers, just like in my day, the Contra's Came out of Nicaragua, trained in Honduras, and then went back in.
And I was on the Las Vegas salient on the border of Honduras-Nicaragua doing that.
But they are coming in to control and run our fields of food.
And our oil fields as well.
Because my assessment, and you probably know this better than I, but China is hungry.
They are running out of food.
They need American food.
And China is cold.
They're running out of fuel.
They need American fuel.
And so the regular Chinese soldiers I assess are coming in and other special forces intelligence personnel assess too to control our fields, also the marijuana fields.
And there's anecdotal personal observation of that happening as well.
There's also Chinese special operations personnel.
They're not here to guard the fields.
They are more likely here to take And hold nodes of transportation and logistics, such as bridges, think of a bridge too far, think of Operation Market Garden in World War II, and trucks and trains and ports, ports of which they already control a great deal, because the resistance is building in no small part, you know, to our efforts and to Bright Town TV's efforts.
But that's how I assess that.
But I still assess China as the main nation state enemy, but this enemy, the closest threat to us is the FBI running this counterinsurgency, you know, raiding American gun shops for forms, all of that.
Yeah, and I want to ask you in a second about ties between the Biden administration and the CCP, because I think there's some cooperation taking place there.
But first, to kind of answer your question, culturally, in my experience and knowledge about China, culturally, they're very patient.
It's a patient culture willing to play the long game.
But at the same time, this occupation of the United States Appears to be staging for an event that would be related to China's possible siege of Taiwan.
And so should that siege take place?
And it's not clear yet to me that they're going to launch that because China is having a lot of success taking over the Taiwan press, Taiwan culture.
Taiwan youth are very much more pro-China now than the older generation, which was more the DPP party.
The KMT party, younger party, very much pro-China, pro-reunification.
So China is kind of winning in Taiwan right now, but should they decide to hurry that up and launch, let's say, a naval and air embargo against Taiwan, I believe that at that time, their soldiers in the United States would be activated immediately.
To create havoc in the U.S., as you said, bridges, but also I think to target refineries, police stations, power grid infrastructure, in order to create chaos so that the United States is very much occupied, the U.S. government occupied domestically, and unable to expend proper resources and attention to the situation in Taiwan.
That's the best that I can tell so far.
What do you think about all that?
That's a very interesting take.
I certainly think that a siege of Taiwan makes sense.
As in a blockade, there have been blockades before.
But I think China does not want to destroy Taiwan.
Agreed.
Just like they don't want to destroy America because they need Taiwan and they need America both.
They want to capture that territory both.
And essentially, after President Trump, they have reestablished parity and better under Peto Joe, as I call him.
They've got that going too, but they also need to keep Taiwan intact as well.
So more distractions where I think the military, well, I can tell you that our military is now a hollow force.
But to stage false flags and attacks, which they are doing all the time, ISS, to then repress, again, more part of the counterinsurgency of the DOJ sponsored and supported by the DOD. But I don't think there's any danger of US forces deploying to fight for Taiwan.
The Navy can't do it at this point.
We don't have enough fuel, don't have enough sailors to do it.
This is not the World War II Navy of Nimitz and Halsey that was daring and fearless by any means.
No, we are so far from that.
And of course, such a large quantity of munitions have been sent to Ukraine and military weapon systems have been lost there.
And we just don't have the manufacturing capacity.
We are no longer the industrial nation, as you know, that we were after World War II. It's a shadow of what we are today.
And yet, through the global dollar hegemony, the US has been able to wield the currency as a weapon, but it seems like the effectiveness of wielding that weapon is now waning.
So, for example, the US pushed the SWIFT system to cut off Russia from international transactions, thinking that it would cause a collapse of the Russian economy.
It did not.
Russia was able to recover and actually its economy is more self-reliant, more redundant, and very strong now, even stronger, while the economy that got clobbered was the economy of Western Europe because of Gazprom and Nord Stream and all of that.
So the dollar weaponization isn't the weapon that it once was, is it?
No, not at all.
Moving away from the dollar as the oil currency, including the yuan, but if these policies keep coming against Russia, Russia may indeed become the primary superpower of the world, because I also assess that China is beginning to collapse from the inside.
Not only is China having trouble feeding itself and therefore needs American food, It needs the American fuel and fuel from other places as well.
That's why you see China expanding everywhere, South America, Africa, Africa being the new Afghanistan, really.
But they are having lots of riots, from what I understand today.
From elder riots to Muslim riots to market riots.
And so when there's riots inside a communist-controlled country, a tyranny like China, that bespeaks of the beginning of the fall.
Their economy, their real estate overspending is certainly Could that make China more dangerous in the short term?
You know, lashing out in desperation as they suffer these economic consequences.
And I think your analysis is correct.
They're very weak internally.
They are debt-ridden.
And they don't have the productivity to debt ratio that would be healthy for a country like that, a developing nation.
But could it make them more dangerous as things go badly?
Well, certainly.
At one time, the Ivan nation of Japan thought it was a good idea to take on the United States just because the army was in charge.
I mean, the great Midway movie that came out recently, Yamamoto was bemoaning the idiots in the army and navy.
I think this was a smart thing to do.
I mean, people get in charge and do stupid things all the time.
But in this case, it looks like China is aligning with the global non-nation state enemies, which of course is the WEF, the World Economic Forum, you know, in the UN and all of that, because it suits their purposes very much like big pharma, big tech does as well, whereas Russia, ISS, Is the enemy of the global nation state.
That's why you see China aligning with them in Ukraine as well, because Ukraine is really the model for the non-nation state, the fall of nations.
They want corporate cartel regions of control, really selling people, children.
And women primarily because everybody's drenched in drugs now.
But again, that is failing, too, on many fronts because the resistance continues to build.
And doesn't this ultimately mean that China and Russia can't really be allies?
I mean, they could in the short term, but long run, no, they're at each other's throats, right?
Yes, totally.
They have always been enemies.
They will always be enemies.
Back in the 60s, they were hand-to-hand fighting.
They just had hand-to-hand fighting with India a while back, and they lost again.
They are always going to remain traditional enemies.
There was kind of in the Cold War, the DOD was trying to mythologize the fact that the Chinese communists and the I think that the Chinese war machine is much of a hollow force as well.
I think the proof is in the fact that they don't want to do anything kinetic.
The unrestricted warfare doctrine of 20 years ago by the two Chinese Air Force colonels was really just Sun Tzu revisited and made stronger.
So the important point for us as Americans is that China, the nation state enemy, the premier nation state enemy, is weakening.
China has paid off everybody.
And the global cabal of the World Economic Forum is weakening as well, too, as our allies in Russia get stronger.
Okay, so...
I'm going to ask you a question then, what collapses first?
But before we get to there, let's talk about your upcoming program here, Navigating the Coming Collapse.
It is Wednesday, July 26th.
It's a webinar, or what do you call it?
A conference?
A presentation?
What do you call it?
It's a webinar.
It's a two-way conversation.
It's where people can ask me questions.
It's always very important.
I've been a martial arts teacher forever.
I've been in In Japanese martial arts since 1967, you know, I trained in Japan with the Grand Master.
And people love the Karate Kid, not because of the martial arts, but because of the sensei deshi, the master-student relationship.
In the Didache, the Greek manual for Gentiles to become Christians, it was Didaskalos, Master, versus Matetes, Disciple.
So it's always about a two-way conversation.
It's not what big church is today, where it's professor lecturing, you know, and you shut up.
So I always want to have a two-way conversation I have that in my chaplaincy, which is at ChristChaplaincy.com, Christ Connection Chaplaincy.
I have that in my initiation courses.
I try and do that on my shows.
And so this is a more intimate way of doing that.
But as far as the collapse...
I say, definitely, with 100% high confidence, the collapse is coming.
If you look at history, and this was kind of what the first Calculating the Coming Collapse event was about, was if you look at history, the fate of empires, empires last about 250 to 275 years before they become so corrupt that they just start to fall apart, and the barbarians, literally the goths, coming back in again.
And if you look at scripture, With the activation of Israel as a state in a day, which is prophesized by Torah, that activates Revelation Scripture.
And so it is, as far as I'm concerned, Completely ascertainable and verifiable that everything is going to collapse.
The question becomes, how does it collapse?
Does it collapse immediately?
Does it collapse slowly?
Do we go back to a Bronze Age?
Or is it just a slow degradation?
As we see, you know, when I used to work Santiago and Caracas, you know, American cities look like that now with marginales, with the marginals living in poverty, real poverty around.
Yeah, our audience, if they're not familiar with your work, you have been to a lot of cities.
You've worked in a lot of cities.
You've worked the border.
You've seen what happens when regimes collapse, and it's not pretty.
And what you just pointed out is critical.
The signs across America's cities are in parallel to what you've observed in other countries, and they're unmistakable.
It's not like...
This is coincidence.
This is a blueprint of collapse, right?
Oh no, like Michael Jan says, they're making it happen very clearly.
And I used to say that there was no real poverty in America, except in the Appalachians and on Indian reservations, and that was generally a chosen lifestyle to stay close to the earth.
But now, I saw real poverty when I worked Central and South America, but now we are seeing real poverty because they want to eliminate the middle class, they want to eliminate The engine of small business, which is what runs the great engine of the American economy.
So there is no middle class.
There's just the poor indentured peasants, the campesinos, and there's the rich.
So I say it will be like Caracas, and I worked Caracas, and that's what I'm seeing come about.
The police only respond to the rich, and they kill other folks.
They go around and kill all the orphans.
And that's what we see happening here in America now.
Wait, who's killing the orphans?
Well, in Brazil, in big cities in South America, there's gangs of orphans.
And you're seeing that now.
You're seeing a lot of fatherlessness in a lot of communities.
It kind of started in the black community, spread to most of the other communities now.
And so these gangs run rampant.
So squads of police just go around and kill them for the rich.
We haven't seen That happened in America yet.
We see the police covering for these gangs because that is part of the counterinsurgency.
Anthropa.com goes to WhiteHouse.gov because that is the Dems Wagner force, so to speak, their covert militia, which is hardly, barely covert at this time.
Yeah, that's an interesting parallel.
I want to ask you about that.
But first, let me just finish plugging your event here because I want to make sure people can sign up.
It's at JeffreyPrather.com.
That's J-E-F-F-R-E-Y. JeffreyPrather.com.
And it's called Navigating the Coming Collapse.
Jeffrey, how do people...
Oh, here it is.
Register at JeffreyPrather.com slash warriors.
Yep.
That's it?
Yep.
Okay.
So that's how people...
Okay, Navigating the Coming Collapse, Wednesday, July 26th, and it's from 7 to 8.30 p.m.
Eastern Time.
And that's live, and people will be able to ask you questions and get your comments in real time, all that.
Okay.
Awesome.
I wanted to get that out there.
But now you mentioned Antifa as, well, it reminded me of some parallels with what has been happening in Russia recently.
Because, I don't know what you think of analyst and former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter, but I find his information to be very compelling.
I think he's got a lot of experience.
Scott Ritter warned that there was a plan with the Prigozin-Wagner so-called uprising to activate Antifa-style domestic terrorists in Moscow to destabilize Moscow and make Putin look weak at the same time that this so-called uprising was taking place.
Now, the whole thing fell apart in 24 hours, but isn't it indicative of the kind of coup or color revolution that's being run against America as well?
Well, I am not a Russian expert.
That's not my area of expertise.
I do really like Ritter stuff.
I like Colonel McGregor stuff, too, as well.
Tony Schaefer and I served at the DIA together, and we're pretty much all in agreement that Ukraine was losing, is losing, and will lose because Ukraine is a puppet of America, NATO, and NATO. The global cabal.
But I don't see it that way.
I think that, and I have a lot of experience in intelligence operations and undercover operations.
And if you saw recently, the Pentagon just announced that they had overcharged weapons sent to Ukraine by $6 billion.
We already know the CIA and Victoria Nuland was all running the whole color revolution in Ukraine.
I think That Wagner Group got that money and went along saying we're going to do a coup and simply fooled the CIA. I think so too.
I think that's exactly what happened.
Yeah.
I can't prove it, but I'm right there with you on that.
And I think that's really important because everything they're doing to us is a psyop.
Intelligence agencies are really about psyoping people.
The KGB, Yuri, can't think of his last name, years ago said that.
And I think that the Wagner Group and Putin just did this because out of nowhere, all of a sudden, they were going to launch this coup and take Russia.
You know, Russians know Russian history better than anybody else.
Taking Russia is like taking Afghanistan.
Yeah, give me a break.
It's not the territory you can hold.
Plus, Putin has never been more popular than he is right now.
You know, people forget we lost about 450,000 in World War II. But in Russia, they lost between 45 million and 60 million to the Nazis.
And the ghost of Nazism in Russia is real and tangible to everybody, and they are never going to let that happen again.
See, I've been using the number 20 million Russians lost in World War II. I didn't realize it was more than double that.
That's...
The official number is usually 20 to 25 million, but if you really look at the real figures, and I did this quite some time ago when I was talking about this, I can't remember my research, but really it comes out to about 45 to 60 million.
Unbelievable, especially given the much lower population that he started with at that time.
Yes.
Compared to today.
That's, I mean, an extraordinary sacrifice to try to stop the Nazis.
And apparently, this is why the message of Putin saying that they have to denazify Ukraine continues to resonate with the culture of the Russian people.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And remember, they were in World War II long before we came in at the end.
They were enduring it for a long time.
And I hate to admit this as an army paratrooper, but the Russians liberated Holocaust camps as well.
And they were our allies in World War II. And they're our allies of the North in the Civil War.
So, you already said you're not an expert on Russia.
I'm not either, and I don't speak Russian, so it's hard for me to read.
I can't read the documents that come out in Russian, obviously.
But, you know, if it's Chinese, no problem.
I've got family members and staff that can read the Chinese, and I can speak it, but not Russian.
So I'm at a loss, but it seems to me there's no off-ramp.
to this Ukraine situation right now that would allow the West to save face.
It seems like they're going all in with escalation or, or die, or maybe that's where it's all headed.
But do you have any idea how, how the West extricates itself from the situation without a catastrophic ending?
Well, saving face, I think is important, important to the Chinese, which is why they rebuffed Biden recently.
I save me face.
America has no face left to save.
We are a laughingstock of the world in that regard.
They are losing because they are following a plan.
Something I say is plans are useless, planning is invaluable, but they are just locked into this global plan where they keep doing this, and a lot of people are getting rich when they're stealing.
It's the military industrial complex.
Add on the pharmacological media complex, go back to Smedley Butler, World War I Marine Corps general who received the Medal of Honor twice when you could, that war is a racket.
So people are doing well doing that, but this is not going to work out well.
We don't have the fuel and we don't have the armament to do anything, especially for Taiwan as well.
But this leaves us in a very vulnerable position.
And it leaves those who are being paid off to do all this by the global cabal, by the WEF, and by China as they both begin to collapse as Russia builds up in a very difficult position.
Plus, you've got to remember that as they've done this whole thing, the Russians have kept bringing to the ICC, the International Criminal Court, to the UN lots of evidence and chain of custody evidence Of US biological weapons.
Now, US is not part of biological weapons treaty, but they have lied about it repeatedly.
And as Biden hands over American law to the UN, they become even more vulnerable to those courts as well.
And so they've got to deal with the growing legal, moral, ethical, and nonviolent resistance inside America, and they've got to deal with the growing international legal resistance, and they've also got to deal with the kinetic third-generation Russian warfare that is Totally successful in Ukraine.
So the global cabal is failing because Ukraine is their centerpiece.
If the global cabal is failing, and I agree that there are signs that they are, for example, I don't think they're going to be able to successfully launch a CBDC and get widespread adoption.
I mean, the technical requirements are enormous.
The government is incompetent.
I mean, look, when they tried to launch Obamacare, it was a technical nightmare.
They can't get this right.
And frankly, I think if the Fed were to launch a CBDC, the first thing that happened is the Russians would hack the thing and take all the coins.
You know?
I mean, and then even if it works...
Which just continues to build Russia and weaken the global cabal, America, and the CCP. Well, exactly.
And at the same time, the American people are going to increasingly reject CBDCs.
I know some people will go along with it if they're offered universal basic income.
Here's some free money, but you've got to use this wallet run by the Fed.
Okay, I get it.
Some people are going to do that.
But not informed people.
Not people who live through COVID and realize that, you know, your freedom is at stake, your future is at stake.
People are not going to just jump in on that.
So I think that the government's, the trust factor, you know, the faith factor that the public had with the government, at least in America, but also, I mean, think about Western Europe and Canada and Australia and New Zealand, has been shattered since COVID. Shattered.
They don't have the moral capital any longer to convince people to do what they want.
That's exactly right.
And they always do this.
They always start high-end.
Like, when they came after me, they said I was a cult leader and a rapist.
And with Trump, they were trying to do the same thing.
And then that doesn't work.
And so they go down to less and less stuff, which fails.
And so there is no legitimacy.
You get legitimacy through your authenticity.
And if you are not authentic in anything, you have no legitimacy.
And then you can only have power by force, and force is not real power.
The governed have to consent to be governed, and government wants to govern, and they are trying to do more and more of that, but their incompetence will not allow them to do that.
And their over-reliance on technology is their Achilles heel.
because all of that is so fragile and it's getting more and more fragile by day.
Well, yeah, let's talk about that point here in particular.
Are you doing okay on time, by the way?
Yeah, I'm okay.
Okay, I just want to make sure.
But, yeah, you think about the technical competence.
Let's say, you know, writing computer code, cryptography, hacking, these things.
Well, I would argue that the strongest programmers in the world today exist probably in places like Russia and China.
I mean...
Look at the landscape, or Eastern European countries, but specifically Russian programmers are just top of the world in terms of technical expertise.
I don't think anybody can argue with that.
And I think they're also some of the most capable hackers in the world.
And China is working on AI systems that are so much more advanced than the U.S. and also quantum computing.
China is very advanced there, which means cryptography.
You know, they're ahead of the race on cryptography.
They may soon be able to break, you know, 256-bit cryptographic codes that the U.S. relies on or 512-bit for military, what have you.
I mean, this is a tech race in many ways on our planet.
What are your thoughts on that?
No, I would agree with that.
But the problem is, and again, you're more of an expert in China, but China has a problem because there is a growing middle class that wants the benefits of all their hard work, and they don't want that to happen.
And so the resistance is growing.
That's why you're seeing the apartment riots after the fires.
You're seeing them walk out of the slave factories as well.
You're seeing the The elders and the market riots as well.
Meanwhile, in Russia, everybody's getting more gold, gas, oil, resources, and promoting, very importantly, the Eastern Orthodox Church, which is really probably the Wagner move to Kiev through Belarus.
That really was the purpose of the ruse of the mutiny was to get there cleanly, and it looks like that has happened now as well.
So all throughout this, Russia ends up stronger and an ally of the American people while it opposes all of that.
But the Western reliance on technology, whether it's ChatGPT, it's all a scam.
You know, COVID was a scam.
We thought it came out of China.
It turns out it came out of Fort Detrick.
It was a military operation.
Everything they do is a scam.
Everything they do is a psyop.
And people are just finally stopping believing in the next lie because their lies are getting so far fixed that they just don't buy them at all.
That's where we are.
People just don't believe the lies any longer.
And the lies have to become increasingly ridiculous.
Right, and they can't keep them all straight.
That's right.
That's right.
And I think the State Department, or even just the White House spokesperson, her endless lies and the cover-ups of the Biden crime family, the bribes, the kickbacks, the Hunter laptop and all of that, the lies just become so ridiculous that there's zero credibility at this point.
So then the upshot is, I mean, you're...
You have amazing sources and you are a very experienced analyst.
And I really trust and honor your views on these things.
But I'm going to maybe put you on the spot.
What breaks first?
If I'm a typical American...
What do I prepare for the most that's going to affect me in America, small town America, big city America, wherever?
What breaks first that affects my life?
Well, there's two ways the collapse activates.
There's the quick collapse and there's the slow collapse.
And most of us lean towards a slow collapse, kind of like Rome.
Everything just starts falling apart.
Logistics start falling apart.
Public services, that's what we're seeing happening.
The reverse could happen.
The situation is very fragile and an over-reliance On the internet and everything, could drop us back into the Bronze Age really quickly.
The most vulnerable are the cities and the 15-minute cities because they will fail completely.
People who live in cities, you know, will be lost.
They are already lost.
So it depends really not on outer technology, but what I call inner technology, which is tribal ways, Of ancient farming techniques, of reliance on your neighbors.
All the things I teach, from martial arts to initiation to kinetic prayer, are inner technologies that are not dependent upon these collapsing and corrupt outer technologies.
And so anything, the more focused, the more dense the city, and our cities are wrecks now.
Nobody who can get out of them is still there otherwise.
So that's what begins to collapse.
Those nodes collapse.
And that's another reason why I think the Chinese troops are in here to keep those rails going, those trucks going, all of that.
But they won't even be able to do that either.
They're here to keep the trucks going?
What do you mean?
So our logistical system is a pretty fragile system.
It's built on Trucks, trains, and container ships.
And the containers that are on container ships go to the trains, and they get offload of the trains, and they get on the trucks, and then everything gets transported.
So what do you need?
You need trucks, trains, and container ships.
Well, what do you need?
You need truck drivers, train drivers, and ship crews to do all of that.
That becomes increasingly fragile.
Now, the Chinese have already taken over most of the ports.
That's very clear.
The trains less so.
And the trucks less so as well.
But what's happening in those industries in America?
We have a shortage of truck drivers.
We have a shortage of train conductors as well.
And why is that?
Because the younger generation, they don't have a work ethic.
They're soft.
They're fat.
They're lazy.
They don't know how to do anything.
And so a lot of the third world people are coming in will step into those positions as we are dispossessed of our jobs and our homes and our land.
And the regular Chinese soldiers will enforce that.
How are you talking about the Chinese soldiers that are in America right now?
That are being infiltrated mostly through the southern border.
A couple of years back, it was female Chinese soldiers unarmed coming from the northern border.
Those were the case officers running people like Lieber, running people like Swalwell.
Now, having infiltrated through espionage and sabotaged, interdicted through sabotage, now they've got to make sure, because our system is pretty chaotic at this point.
It's not very reliable.
So they need to maintain that system.
There's no sense of taking something if you can't then have it.
That's why mutually assured destruction, the MAD doctrine, worked so well.
But nuclear weapons are irrelevant now completely.
They've been replaced by genetic, very specific weaponry that can be targeted down to an individual or to a group or to a region.
So why wouldn't China just launch a bioweapon targeting, at least geographically, the United States?
I understand that the U.S. people are genetically very diverse, far more so than Chinese people, right?
Chinese people are homogeneous, mostly genetically, compared to Americans.
So perhaps that genetic diversity is protection against bioweapons.
Definitely.
You're exactly right.
That is the inoculation.
And I think they already have launched those weapons.
I think Marburg was a launch and a failure.
The New York Ops, where they were trying to spread it there.
There were clear crisis actors doing that.
The next one is coming out.
I can't think of what the name of it is.
I've got it here someplace.
That they're trying to release hempen virus or something like that.
But because the resistance has built up and people are not buying into that anymore, they're having a lot of trouble.
I think they're failing.
What about China dumping U.S. Treasuries?
They have something less than a trillion dollars of U.S. Treasuries in their possession, as I understand it.
And I think in a congressional hearing recently, a question was asked to Janet Yellen herself.
What would happen if China dumped the Treasuries?
And I think her answer was, well, we haven't really considered that possibility.
But shouldn't they?
Does that matter?
Or can the government just, oh, print another trillion dollars?
And when does that end?
Well, again, people forget that George Floyd started off from a $20 counterfeit bill, part of a $250,000 counterfeit packet that was intercepted by CBP, Customs Border Protection, from China.
So that was economic warfare.
And I think Floyd got out of prison early to be an informant for a gang of crooked cops.
The purpose of the counterfeit warfare was to sow chaos and discord, but you only want so much chaos and discord sown as well.
You could say that the unrestricted warfare policies have been too successful.
The one thing you see, you know, I've worked in dictatorships, and they're pretty efficient.
They work pretty well.
I was back in Chile in the 80s, and I had to go find an AWOL soldier.
It was pretty easy to find him because everybody had to turn in their passport at every hotel.
But there's a lot of chaos and everything has fallen apart in our system, which is, again, why I think that the Chinese are bringing in their folks to run the system for them.
Okay, so it sounds like, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you're still thinking the most likely scenario is this slow erosion and transformation of America into an occupied and maybe CCP-run country, but it won't be all one day.
But it does seem that it's accelerating, it's just not all at once.
Is that a fair assessment?
Yeah, I think that's true.
But you've got to also understand that there's competing ideologies here.
The global cabal, the WEF, they want everything digitized, like in Ukraine.
How's that turning out?
That's failing.
What does China want?
China wants food and fuel, not digitized everything.
They're just using big pharma and different vectors of weapons, anything but kinetics.
Although they could kinetically take us on at great loss, but the regime does not want war here, actual open warfare here, because actual open warfare here, third-gen warfare defeats fifth-gen biodigital warfare.
Putin is proving that quite handily in Ukraine.
And real war, you don't know how it turns off.
That turns out That's why all of the U.S. Empire wars are overseas and they are removed from everybody because it doesn't matter how it turns out.
Those are phony wars.
You know, some of my, you know, peerage doesn't think so.
I think, you know, World War II was a valid war that we had to get involved.
Crossing the channel was difficult enough.
Trying to cross the ocean, you know, would have been, we would have done it eventually, but the lives would have been three times lost in that.
But that's how I project all of this.
Basically, though, that the global non-nation-state goals of their war are not the same as the goals of the nation-state of China, which are both opposed to the nation-state goals of Russia.
So it seems like all over the world, in China, in the United States, certainly Europe, we are living on the precipice of really, let's say, far too much debt, far too much expansion.
China did a lot of real estate expansion based on debt and speculation.
Their population expanded to the point where they can't supply enough food.
among Western Europe countries.
Their economies expanded beyond the point where they could domestically supply enough energy.
Hence, they were dependent on Gazprom, which is no longer an option.
In the United States, the expansion, we've been in this bull market, you could argue for at least a couple of decades here, that is just debt, debt, debt, money printing, money printing, low interest rates, kind of artificially low interest rates.
You could argue even multiple decades.
But the world seems like it's overexpanded in all these areas I just mentioned, and that one way or another, there has to be a reckoning because it's not a sustainable situation that we're on.
uh Thank you.
Do you think that...
I mean, aren't these things related where one goes and it takes the others with them?
Yeah, exactly.
Because China and America, their economies are inextricably linked.
China builds everything for America.
So if you destroy America completely, then who do you sell your stuff to?
That comes back to the burgeoning middle class of China becoming more and more frustrated.
What we're beginning to see is the end of the era of nation states and things devolving down into tribal.
The corporate cartel, WEF, wants it to be regional markets to control.
That's why they don't want a Canada, an America, a Mexico, a Central and South America.
They just want a regional continental market.
But that's an empire as well, and they don't have the ability to control that because they're not identifying themselves as the United States of America or whatever country, because that's really important for people to be able to identify.
People are not being able to identify with anything.
So you're devolving down into tribes, into smaller regional tribes based upon ethnicity, religion, and terrain.
Hence, then, the critical decision making that every American needs to engage in right now to put themselves geographically and culturally in a place where they intend to be when the system falls apart.
Exactly.
We are returning to our roots.
You know, Lincoln asked Lee to be his general, and Lee refused, famously saying, I'm a Virginian first.
He identified with his state before he identified with the federal government.
That's how we're supposed to be.
That's how we were founded.
We have lost that.
I just did a show on that, on America's Assemblies, going back to identifying the state.
And what the founders did not foresee, I think, was the mobility of modern transportation because people lived and died in their states.
They were Virginians.
They were North Carolinians.
If you look at the Civil War battalions and units, they were all identified by their statehood.
But that mobility has lost identity.
But in 2025, everybody's got to have a star.
They've got to have the Jewish, it's not a Jewish star, it's not a Star of David, but it's a star with a yellow background on their license to fly anywhere domestically.
So it's kind of like the Nazi star.
I just did a show on that.
So people are going to stop flying and they're going to go back to their regions and they are going to identify with their regions because that's who they're going to rely on.
Then in terms of financial systems, doesn't this also mean that...
Well, a couple of things.
So the 2024 election appears to be less and less relevant if these things happen because the centralized federal structure or...
I'm not...
I don't mean the federalization of the states.
I mean the federal government centralized structure is less and less relevant to the future shape of the world.
More regional states are probably emerging over the next decade or nation states.
But then doesn't that mean also more domestic money supply, right, like a Texas currency where I am?
I just had on Tim McCain of American Assemblies, and he was just talking about the returning Republic of Texian.
And Doc Chambers, another friend of mine as well, because Texas was a republic before.
And Texas broke into the states of Oklahoma, I think Colorado, New Mexico.
And a couple of others.
So you're seeing that right now.
You're seeing freedom of people in Texas, in Florida, in Missouri, in Louisiana, in Oklahoma, as opposed to the slave states, what I call the feral states.
It's a SOCOM term on the coasts.
And that's how it is going to reoccur, rebuild.
Musk is moving his stuff to Texas.
Now that's a concern too, because as these left-wingers come into conservative states, they bring their same values, but there's a real pushback against that as well.
But the real important thing is to keep the federal government, the saboteurs who are supposed to be vote watchers.
You know, DeSantis, he's a WEF guy, but he did something real smart.
He didn't let the federal DOJ election monitors come in because they're not monitors, they're saboteurs.
And that trend will continue.
Well, this is fascinating, and it just underscores the importance of people voting with their feet right now, making key decisions of where you want to be, because we don't know what trigger events might happen.
For example, Putin has said that if the West deploys F-16s in the Ukraine conflict, that...
Putin himself would consider the military bases from which those F-16s are launched to be legitimate military targets to be struck by Russian missiles, which, of course, he has nuclear-tipped hypersonic missiles that the West really cannot defeat.
So, you know, if you start seeing military air bases in Poland with mushroom clouds over them, You know things are going to change very rapidly at that point, and we could wake up to that on any given day.
That's the thing.
None of us really know, do we, Jeffrey?
The timing is impossible to determine.
No, Poland is the forward operational base, the FOB for Ukraine.
If Putin hits those things, then he might hit bases in the United States.
If that happens, then the control by the tyrants in the Biden regime vanishes.
And the resistance flourishes.
I'm not sure they're smart enough to understand that, but that is a scenario that could occur.
Every resistance movement needs an outside force.
In the Vietnam War, which is a Tonkin Gulf false flag, Which doesn't demean the service of the veterans who served there, but Cambodia was a staging area.
You know, New York and California, you know, just like Chaz, are the staging areas for that.
But if there is an outside country that is supporting, if Russia ends up supporting resistance like it supported the North in the Civil War, then all bets are off and the regime topples like Sri Lanka.
Wow, you just opened up a Pandora's box of possible conversations with that comment, but I think we'll save that for another future interview.
In wrapping this up, I want to remind people of your website, jeffreyprather.com, and your upcoming webinar, Navigating the Coming Collapse.
I think this is going to be great.
I want to tune into that too, Jeffrey.
That's at jeffreyprather.com slash warriors, Coming up on July 26th.
Anything else you want to leave us with today, Jeffrey?
Well, I'm always hopeful.
I'm always faith-filled.
We will win this.
There's going to be unimaginable suffering coming, but you and I are both real aware of this.
We will win this in the end.
Everybody I talk to says that, but it's going to be a rough ride, and it's just getting started.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's true.
There's a lot to go through.
Be ready, folks.
And also be spiritually ready, mentally ready, psychologically ready.
Part of the downside of how they've created such a weak nation is that people aren't psychologically ready to be shocked by what's coming.
You, Jeffrey, you've seen things in other countries.
I've lived in other countries.
And that helps you attune to what's coming for America.
But a lot of people...
Especially younger people are very fragile.
They're triggered by everything.
It's going to be tough for them.
Yeah, it will be.
There's a whole generation that's very soft and lazy and drugged up and fattened up and it's not going to bode well for them.
Yeah, that's for sure.
All right.
Well, Jeffrey, thank you so much for taking time with us today.
This has been a fascinating conversation, and still we've only scratched the surface somehow.
I want to remind people to catch your show on Brighteon.tv.
What's the time and day that that airs?
I'm Friday mornings at 9 a.m.
That's Eastern, right?
Yes.
Okay, 9 a.m.
Eastern.
No, no, no.
It's 10 a.m.
Eastern, yes.
Oh, okay, 10 a.m.
Eastern.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Okay, right, you're on Central.
And then Jeffrey's website, of course, is jeffreyprather.com.
Thank you so much, Jeffrey.
Thank you for all that you do for America and for your analysis, and we wish you well.
God bless you.
All right, back at you, my friends.
Good to catch up with you.
It's been a while.
Absolutely.
Let's do it again soon.
All right.
All right.
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And thank all of you for watching.
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