Former SWAT member and naturopathic doctor Mark Sherwood joins Mike Adams...
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Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and today we're joined by a really fascinating first-time guest, Dr.
Mark Sherwood, who ran for governor of Oklahoma, and he served on the SWAT team for the city of Tulsa for many years.
He's a naturopath, and he works with his wife, Michelle, who's an osteopath.
His website is sherwood.tv.
I've got it up here.
A lot that's going on.
Welcome, Mark.
It's great to have you on the show.
Hey, Mike.
Thanks for having me, and I appreciate what you're doing at Brideon, too.
Great job there, and just...
Really honored to be on with you.
Well, thank you so much.
We're just doing the same thing that you're doing, trying to get the word out and just waking people up.
But let's talk about you and your efforts in those areas.
Give us a quick background.
I mean, it's an unusual resume.
You were a cop, SWAT team, naturopath, now a public educator.
What's your focus or how did you get here?
Yeah, that's a great question.
Just very brief.
Background, synopsis, going back many, many years ago, I was once a professional baseball player.
I played in the country of Australia, so I had to grow up quick.
And then when I came back to the United States, I got cut a few times from teams around here and wasn't quite talented enough to make it to the big leagues.
Then I became a police officer, 10 years of which the SWAT team, 24 years total.
During my time on the police department, I served 10 years as well on the power team.
I used to travel around with those Evangelical ministry, breaking bricks and bending steel and blowing up hot water bottles and all that stuff.
I did that for a decade.
After that, towards the end of my career, I decided to go back to school.
Contrary to popular belief, I didn't lose my mind.
I just wanted to bring healing into people's lives.
I became a naturopath.
My wife, Dr.
Michelle, who's an osteopath and a naturopath, we teamed up together to form the Functional Medical Institute.
Since then, we've We've kind of gotten a little bit of everything.
We've written three best-selling books.
We've produced five full-length movies.
And we ran for governor in 2022.
And our whole mission, Mike, has been to give people information so they can become free from the things that sort of put people in bondage today.
You know, big government, big food, big medicine, and just big propaganda, I call it.
It just indoctrinates people.
And we just want to see people have the information enough to get free.
Yeah, well, amen for that, and thank you for all that you do in that space.
Let's jump into a lot more fascinating stuff here.
Now, I hope you're okay if I comment on you, but you look like a person who is physically and spiritually strong.
Is that a fair assessment?
It is.
I'm very structured, and I give God the glory.
I don't back away from that at all.
He's made me that way.
The greatest teacher in life, Mike, has been the pain I've gone through.
We've all been through hard times, but I've been through some really challenging times.
You either get bitter or get better and let those scars become stars or become scars that drag you down.
God's put that passion in me to be strong, and I do exercise every day.
My faith first, my physical body, and then obviously I go out there and I pour into people's lives.
Because people today, they need to be heard and they need to be healed.
And we have been gifted to do both.
And what do you use in terms of nutrition?
Because people know, like, I have my smoothie every day here.
This is my superfood smoothie that I've been living on for 20 years.
What do you do for nutrition to augment everything you just described?
Well, obviously, I eat real food.
Obviously, the garbage that we have today in the standard American diet is just...
It's pitiful it's not fit for human consumption, not one bit of it.
Even in some of your books, you've noted that very well.
I've got one of your books on my credenza in my office, the one about all the toxins and pollutants in food, and well done on that, by the way.
It's unfortunately...
I don't do that.
I won't participate in that.
So I do have, you know, a smoothie every day.
I'll use greens and reds, powders all the time.
I try to keep it organic as best I know how and try to keep it, you know, heavy metal and toxin, pollution-free.
Less ingredients as possible.
Eat very clean.
And when I eat, I eat a lot of vegetables and plants.
I don't eat a lot of red meat.
Not because I don't like it, but because it's harder to source unless you know the farmer.
True.
I will eat venison from time to time.
I still like to hunt and fish.
I'm pretty much a pescatarian, I would say, kind of a guy.
Again, very structured in time and everything.
My wife and I value sleep.
We work very, very hard, but sleep is underestimated.
I want to put a plug in for sleep where we can regenerate, storm rebuild.
I'm with you.
Very important.
Yeah, yeah, you can't function on four hours of sleep a night.
That doesn't work for very long.
Maybe one night, but not a bunch of them in a row.
All right, let me ask you then about how many years did you serve on the police force in Tulsa?
Yeah, 24 years.
24 years.
That's extraordinary.
And you were on the SWAT team for a number of those years?
Yeah.
Yeah, for a decade, 10 years of that, I was on the SWAT team.
You know, you see things that nobody really ought to see, right?
And you don't get those memories out of your head.
And I like to tell people, I understand life because I've seen the breath of life disappear from a human being right in front of my eyes.
When you see something like that, Mike, it really changes your perspective, changes your sense of perception of what is important and what's not.
Yeah.
My wife and I kind of stay in our lane and do our thing and try to get involved where we can.
But I realize powerful lessons that I don't have the power to change somebody else.
All I have the power to do is change myself and live the way I'm supposed to live and hopefully, with God's help, be a good example.
Well, I've talked to people in the past who are these, I would say, overzealous optimists, and they've said things like they don't believe there's evil in the world.
And I would respond and say, well, you need to be a cop for one weekend.
Yeah, no question.
People don't understand.
The police officers are taking a beating right now, and it's not really right.
And I am very passionate about that because some of the finest men and women I've ever met have served in law enforcement.
In cities, counties, states, and even some of our federal bureaus.
Not everybody's crooked, but you really understand what it means to be a cop with this scenario.
Imagine that you stop a car at 2 in the morning, and your thought process is this.
Am I going to die?
Is this person armed?
Are they going to shoot me?
Who are they?
I can't stereotype whether they be male or female, black, white, yellow, red, or green.
It doesn't matter.
Everybody's a danger because I have to treat them that way.
It's my responsibility.
Based upon that, you kind of walk around this hyper-cortisolemic standpoint.
You're always hyper-vigilant.
Those men and women take a beating living like that.
It took me about five years to be able to go in a restaurant With my wife, Dr.
Michelle, you know, and sit with my back to the door without hyperventilating because you're afraid someone...
I'm surprised you can do that at all, frankly.
I can't do that.
Yeah, I will never sit with my back to the door.
But the other cops and, you know, former Special Forces people and so on that I know, that security-mindedness never leaves them, right?
No.
I mean, you and I have been...
In different places and paths cross many times, you know, like on the Reawakened Tour, for example.
And I'm always watching for stuff and seeing stuff.
And you can't help but be vigilant with that because life is not a bunch of fun and games, man.
It's full of evil.
You know, anybody is capable of anything.
Everybody is capable of everything, including myself.
myself.
So it's about checks and balances and paying attention.
And like you said earlier, people want to act like the world is going to turn around, but stop on that.
You know, it's not.
It is the way it is because of sin.
Right.
And so we've got that there.
And we have to understand that to be the light in the middle of that is going to mean there's an opposition called darkness.
And that helps define our own roles as being people of truth and light and love and transparency, but also holding the line against evil or against the child mutilators or holding the line against criminals and violence and so on.
If you're okay with it, let me ask you about the collapse of the rule of law that we're witnessing in many cities.
Now, what was your role with SWAT, by the way?
Yeah, I did many things with SWAT. I started off on the entry team.
I was the first one that was in the door carrying the shield.
I did that for a number of years and then eventually transitioned to become a sniper.
And again, both positions are a lot of incredible responsibility.
You know, with a sniper, you know if you pull the trigger, somebody's going to die because you're not going to miss.
You become that good and confident about it.
So the decisions you make are going to have to be right and And as a shield guy, going in first, you've got to be prepared to take that shield and go right at that gun barrel, whether they're firing or not.
And my job was to cram that gun barrel right back up their face, you know, with that shield, no matter what it was.
And you have to have that mindset.
And when I think about the rule of law, what's happened over the course of time, I'm kind of sad and shocked, Mike, because these officials...
Who are appointed as positions as head of the FBI or whatever, as an example, and or elected officials such as DAs, those have become less about servanthood and representation and more about politics to maintain your voter bloc.
When it becomes like that, you get clouded.
If you get clouded, your judgment gets in error.
If your judgment gets in error, you become biased.
And that becomes a negative when you're talking about those positions because biasness cannot happen.
You have to go to the utmost nth degree to be unbiased in prosecutorial decisions.
And even from a cop standpoint, Unbiased in investigations and even arrests that you might end up having to make.
Well, right.
If you're a cop and something's happening and you need to make a split decision to deploy a firearm in defense of innocent life, you don't need your mind clouded with, oh, what is the skin color of this assailant?
You do not.
That's very well said because today there's a false belief out here that it's like TV, that if you shoot somebody in the leg...
They just go down in a heap.
That's not true.
They're shot right through the heart, and they keep on fighting back and firing, and they can kill you.
We are taught, all law enforcement officers, if you deploy deadly force, you're taught to kill that threat, and that's the way it is.
You have to make a decision right there in the split second that may be right, may be wrong, maybe someone would do a different decision, but that's based upon your perception at that time.
And for having the Monday morning quarterbacks come at that with the vengeance that they are is not okay.
And I've said to people before regarding the judgment of law enforcement that if they haven't worn the badge, carried a bulletproof vest, and carried a gun, then their opinion is irrelevant to me.
They don't have a valid opinion because they've never done that before.
Yeah, absolutely.
And cops are handicapped by politicians that are defunding them and giving them severe restrictions on rules of engagement to the point where in a lot of these liberal cities, I know you're well aware of this, such as Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, cops are neutered.
They're not even allowed to do their jobs.
And I can't imagine what it would be like to even try to be a cop in a city like that.
Well, it's interesting, you know, Prior to my retirement and then transition to another career, being a naturopath, I was in charge and assigned at the academy, and part of my duties was in charge of recruiting, and I saw the decline of number of applicants go that direction as the decline of respect went.
You know, as little kids, you know, we're all taught to look up to police and fire, and now some kids are taught to fear the police, and that's not okay.
The very people that are We'll call the cops when they have a problem.
And the irony of that is comical.
And so you can see that it really goes down to an attack on authority, Mike.
And I think it's a societal problem.
The family authority goes down.
The kids have begun to run the show.
And what little Johnny wants is what guides the family decisions.
You know, you disrespect parents.
You disrespect authority.
You're going to disrespect the cops.
That's just the way it is.
It's a natural progression.
The analysis I've seen in these liberal cities is when they do defund the cops, they actually get worse crime.
And we see the decay of the society increase.
And so, you know, you kind of get what you pay for.
You get what you appreciate.
You get what you don't appreciate in those scenarios.
Well, exactly.
And my last question on the COP chapter of your life, and then we'll move on to some other things, but my last question is...
Can you help educate people about how quickly some of these cities would turn into anarchy without a police presence?
Because, you know, I've trained with cops.
I've ridden with cops.
I've actually trained some cops on different skill sets in the past as well, edge weapons, things like that.
And the average person has no idea.
They think cops are unnecessary.
But if you take them away, what happens?
When you take them away, you're going to have a Portland, Oregon.
I think we go back to that real-life example.
You're going to have chaos, anarchy.
We citizens that don't have an idea of what cops do have no idea how to protect ourselves if something goes awry.
It is so silly to think about taking police presence out of a city because we know what happens when you take authority out, lack of authority comes in.
Like when you remove God from schools, ungodliness comes in.
It's just a general principle, and I think people need to understand that.
Obviously, I think lessons are learned from these cities, and hopefully people will get the message.
Cops don't need to be defunded.
They need to be refunded of the time and hard times we give them.
I've encouraged people, if you see a cop out there, don't let him buy a meal.
Tell him thank you.
You're going to see him light up, because I never once got called on a 911 call to Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
So the DAs refuse to carry through a lot of prosecutions of violent criminals.
So it's the worst of both worlds.
And then there's, of course, gun control in those cities.
So the message to innocent civilians is, oh, you're not allowed to defend yourself, and we're going to release the violent criminals, and we're not going to prosecute them and lock them up, and we're going to defund the police.
So it's kind of like, good luck!
You're now living in some kind of real-life horror scenario.
And no wonder.
But go ahead.
Yes, your thoughts.
When there's no rules, you have no rules.
And so, unfortunately, you know, our correction system, I mean, I know it's got issues, and I know we want to see rehabilitation.
Mike, that would be great, you know, if that would happen to everybody.
But unless you have a heart change, unless you have a cultural change inside of you, and unless you go back to an area that is going to support that, it is hard to get You know, the prison out of an individual or the rebelliousness out of an individual.
And when you...
These DAs that are elected are so hell-bent on achieving and maintaining power that they compromise the integrity of the safety of the cities and counties they're supposed to be protecting.
I fear for the future of this country because when you value politics over people, profits over people, we become...
A society that is nothing more than exactly what we're going to get is Venezuela and China rebirthed.
Yes, and we're headed down that path quite rapidly.
So let's talk about naturopathy and nutrition and how that can pull people out of mental illness and its links to crime.
Now, I think you are unique among a lot of people that I interview because you've been a cop and you're a naturopath.
So let me start with that question, and I'll just kind of restate it so I'm clear about it.
But you know there's a link between mental illness and criminal behavior.
And mental illness can be caused, in some cases, by chronic exposure, heavy metals poisoning, or sometimes nutritional deficiencies that are allowed to fester.
So in your view as a naturopath, what is the role of nutrition in society, of helping people be more balanced and reducing chaos and anarchy?
The decay in the mental health of our society is correlated to the decay in our gut health.
Our decay in the gut health is correlated to the Sterin American Diet, which was Driven heavily in a forward direction by the food pyramid.
Same time in history, you had this transfer of the vaccine liability to the government.
You had this great induction of more vaccines that were pushed on our children.
So this rapid increase of inflammation created these scenarios that led to leaky gut.
Leaky gut leads to leaky brain.
And our gut is producing, as you well know, valuable neurotransmitters called serotonin and dopamine, which are formed I mean,
how many kids are diagnosed with ADD or ADHD Because they don't produce enough dopamine, because of nutritional imbalances that are created, supported, and funded in our schools.
So we're living in a society today that is actually creating this idea of this, I'm going to use my air quotes here, full mental illness diagnosis that becomes an excuse for behavior.
We are not born with medication deficiencies.
We get created nutritional deficiencies by what we do or don't do.
And unfortunately, no one's going through that process.
As a naturopath looking at society, the just intimate link between a lack of nutrition, a lack of support for nutrition as it relates to mental illness, and the proactive push towards drugs as a first-line therapy It's going to continue to perpetuate into more and more violent acts into our society because we're not dealing with the true root causes of the scenario inside the human body that's
created the imbalances or the lack of these necessarily produced neurotransmitters.
Yeah, you're nailing it.
If we could reform school lunches and actually feed kids healthier items that they also enjoy, right?
It's got to be something they're willing to eat, but you can have more nutritious options that are still in the form of, let's say, like a chicken nugget or a hamburger or something.
You can still make those more nutritious for kids.
You can't.
Yeah.
It doesn't have to be just like salad greens all day long that they're not going to eat.
But it's the food in the schools.
It's also food in the prison systems, by the way, which is not nutritious, and it just exacerbates, I think, a lot of the mental illness that people struggle with, but then the mass medication of kids.
So let me ask you, Mark, what do you think is the link between the psychiatric drugging and school shootings?
Yeah.
I think there's a great link, Mike, because, you know, as you would assume, I've been trained in mass school shooting response, and I know that really well, how to go after a threat and how to go in a door and how to make those entries.
That are just kind of one way in and no way out, right?
By the way, we hope you would come to Uvalde, Texas and teach those folks how to do that because they forgot all those skills.
That was a mess.
I commented on that numerous times in different broadcasts and the delay there definitely cost lives and it was inexcusable.
Cops know this, too.
You go in there, and we all know that if you take one, you go down, everybody else goes right up the top of you and keeps going forward until it neutralizes the shooter.
It happens, right?
Right.
But in today's world, these people that are committing these atrocious, heinous crimes, cowardice crimes, they have inside of them a lot of anxiety and hatred.
Right.
That is really suicidal behavior turned homicidal.
But what creates the imbalance inside of them, there are several things.
Obviously, when the body itself is not in a state of homeostasis, it's not at peace, there's going to be anxiety.
And that anxiety rolls up in multiple forms inside of a person.
You go back to the idea of this believing that I'm a girl or a boy or a cat or whatever.
That is not true.
And the DNA inside of our nucleus will prove that that's not true.
And no matter how much you think it, no matter how much hormones you come on, or no matter how many irresponsible practitioners or counselors tell you that, it still doesn't change your DNA. And anytime you do something against that, it creates this imbalance, which creates what I call internal anger.
And that will always erupt into something else.
And then you see the Glorification of these shooters.
They want to go down, Mike, with a blaze of glory.
They want to get known.
A person that does not produce dopamine, we know, classic ADD. They can't pay attention.
They're lacking attention.
But moreover, a person does not feel rewarded or feel valued.
They don't feel heard.
They don't feel listened to.
And because of that, they want to go out there and do what they've been told and what they've seen It's going to make them known.
And you couple that with the violence that's on television, the violence at the tips of our fingers in video games, glorifying homicidal acts and gamifying that, you know, shooting people in the head and watching blood go away.
Mike, this has created a scenario where we've devalued life, we've devalued humanity, and this is a result of societal issues.
You can say to people, well, let's just take away the guns.
Let's legislate something.
But you cannot legislate morality into a person or society, nor can you legislate out of a human being homicidal tendencies or anger.
It doesn't work.
So we've got to do a complete societal turnover in this, which would include cops, culture coming together, clergy coming together, etc.
I agree with you, but it seems like, of course, society is moving in the opposite direction with the whole transgenderism push.
And again, you're probably uniquely qualified to comment on this, but think about what a biological young woman goes through if she is put on male hormones.
She has her breasts surgically removed, so she is maimed and scarred through gender affirmation surgery.
She's put on these hormones, and she begins to experience for the first time in her life The impulses of being a male, which can...
You're a man.
I'm a man.
We know such impulses can be strong, especially when you're young, very strong.
And if you haven't grown up with that, you may not know how to cope exactly with that.
And we saw in Nashville, of course, that transgender mass shooter, a biological female attempting to become a male and carrying out a mass shooting with, I think, a Caltech sub-2009 millimeter, by the way, which is not...
Not my favorite pistol, by the way.
But whatever, that's beside the point.
It's not even that good of a gun, but she or he managed to kill some innocent people.
But aren't the artificial hormones and the cultural programming, isn't this a factor that's driving some people to the point where they snap?
Well, it certainly is, because going back to this You know, the cell.
I mean, cellular biology, you know, you've got your double helix structure in your DNA inside of your nucleus, which determines the sex.
And then you've got, interestingly enough, the mitochondria has the DNA just as a mom.
And you can't change that.
So you bring in, to a female, an enormous amount of testosterone, for example, in a system that was never designed to have that volume of testosterone.
So it's contrary To biological function, it's contrary to physiology, and by default, it's going to create a sense of pathology, which is exactly what this is.
So they're going to have these urges and desires that are not normal.
The body doesn't know how to respond, and the person is going to respond with chaos internally, and they're going to get suicidal and homicidal, and there's not a person that I've ever met And I haven't met all of them, but that has gone down those pathways that has ever been happy about life.
They've all had some kind of confusing view of life and tried to cover it up by acting like everything's okay, but their life's a wreck.
And I'm afraid that we're going to see that continue to happen at a greater frequency.
And Mike, that is not healthcare.
No, that is freakish.
Yeah, well said.
That is gender mutilation.
And some states are working on legislation, or I believe in a couple states it's been passed, to outlaw such procedures on children.
But then there are other states like, of course, Oregon, Washington, California, and so on, that not only welcome that, but in California there's a new law, I forgot the number that's being proposed, That would allow the state to take the children away from parents if the parents refused to acknowledge the gender confusion of the child.
So your child comes home from school and says, hey, mommy, I want to be a girl.
And the parents say, no way, that's crazy.
You're a boy.
We don't want you to be mutilated.
The child can call the state and the state can have the parents arrested.
And can you imagine?
I mean, again, you're a former cop.
Can you imagine police being required to respond to that scene and take children away from parents just to have those children mutilated?
I mean, comment on that, because that's bonkers.
Yeah, I think that in those scenarios like that, I encourage people to do a couple things.
Number one, move out of California.
Anytime the government gets involved in your parenting education business, That is inappropriate.
It's constitutionally inappropriate too, by the way.
The police officers that are following ungodly, immoral rules.
I just want to make sure that people understand this.
They have a choice.
And I suspect, and I really believe this, you're going to see police officers completely bail and retire from those places because they're not going to do that.
Because a police officer has a special call That's about service and protection, not about harassment and ungodly and moral acts like that.
Now, you're going to have bad apples, of course, that can become brainwashed, but you're going to have police officers out of there.
I would not follow those rules.
I would leave that department in a heartbeat, and I would advise anybody else to do the same thing, because ultimately, those type of acts...
Now, that goes back to the Tenth Amendment, doesn't it?
I suppose California can do that, because they can create their own rules based upon our Constitution.
But I hope the people of California that are actually people will find a new state to move to and we can have that division.
And on the comment of the children, I believe this all in my heart.
No child at all should have the opportunity to do that under any circumstances.
It should be always outlawed.
Now, you get to be an adult.
Do what you want.
Can't stop that.
Can't stop you from walking in front of a bus.
That's your choice.
But ultimately, a child needs to become a child By a parent teaching them how to be a good adult.
And that's what it boils down to.
It has nothing to do with gender.
It has everything to do with learning how to be a good adult and make good decisions.
And you're going to see these children regret this thing.
And you see many reports of that right now.
You know, I did this.
I regret it now.
And that's probably a sign of things to come.
Yeah, and it's a quagmire of legal issues.
I know you're aware of this, but the fact that children can be easily brainwashed through social pressure and school teachers who are themselves, I believe, demonically possessed entities who are trying to sacrifice children, and then those children might appear to consent, but can they actually consent if they're not 18?
And, you know, we have a juvenile...
There's a system of punishment that says you shouldn't throw children behind bars with hard time because they didn't know what they were doing.
And yet, in states like California, that same state will say, but we can slice off the genitals of these children because they consented.
So that makes no sense.
No, and you go back to this idea when you degrade the idea of God made men and women.
That's it.
You know, he didn't create Adam and Steve.
He created Adam and Eve, right?
And so, the bottom line is, when you degrade, disrupt, turn your back on, and disrespect that idea, what you're going to have left over is perversion.
And that perversion is unlimited with what mankind can come up with.
You're right.
A child cannot consent.
And frankly, With the immature juvenile thought processes we have going on today, a lot of our politicians shouldn't be consenting either because they're not thinking through it at all.
But unfortunately, this is the society we live in.
The best thing that I can tell parents today is keep a communication line open with your child, become involved, ask them questions, be good listeners, pay attention, and observe everything.
And at that school, and you mentioned it correctly with these teachers, a lot of them are taught in diversity, equity, and inclusion.
These higher education institutions are funded by big government.
Don't forget that at all.
And because of that, they're training these DEI philosophies that are going to say, well, you can believe anything you want.
It's okay.
I saw an interesting – it was a video of an adult that went to a school board meeting dressed as a cat.
The adult was in a cat suit and was dressed in the PTA and was very serious about how ridiculous she thought that they were looking at her and probably forming judgments about her.
But she made the point that it's ridiculous for an adult to do that.
Why is it not even more ridiculous for a child to even have the opportunity to do that?
And so the irony of where we are, we're doing everything we can on the liberal side to bend the rules, to create loyal followers, to, Mike, enslave them.
When you become dependent upon the government to do your battle and do your bidding and supply your needs, you become enslavement, just like the top of our conversation.
Even that is going to lead into this dictatorial society.
Right, and in that dictatorial society, which I think you nailed that description, it's only going to result in more conflict and violence.
In fact, here's a scenario.
Let me run this past you with your SWAT background.
So here's a scenario.
Let's say parents living in Arizona.
Their child crosses the border into California, declares themselves to be trans, The new California law kicks in, effectively medically kidnaps the child, does not allow the parents to take the child back.
Law enforcement might actually be involved in detaining the parents or even escorting them back to the border.
The child goes into the hospital to have their genitals mutilated.
Then the parents, now here's the what if, the parents hire former special forces operators to run an extraction op on their child, which morally is understandable in a sense, right?
So you're going to have, let's say, some wealthy parents.
Here's $100,000 each, a couple of spec ops, retired guys who are still very capable, to go in and extract this child out of a medical kidnapping scenario and then bring that child back across the border to Arizona.
That's going to happen.
Yeah.
Yeah, go ahead.
And this is from the law enforcement standpoint of all the legalities we have here.
If I'm a parent, got the funds, I'm going to do that too, so that's going to happen.
So the child gets extracted from California, gets transported covertly back to Arizona.
They get there.
Now, here's what's got to happen at that point.
The county and the state in which this person resides in, Arizona, And the county, they have to secure their borders as well.
Right.
Because you have now a dispute between states, potentially, which now you're going to get into the federal level.
The dispute between states was supposed to be handled by the judiciary in the branch of the federal government.
So that would be a case that would go up that far to the federal government, to Supreme Court most likely, because now you've got a dispute about Which state is right?
Which state is wrong?
Right, right.
California will say the parents are kidnapping the child, but the parents will say, no, California kidnapped a child.
That's right.
And it's going to go back and forth, and that's going to be one of those Supreme Court cases that would get hurt eventually.
Yeah, and God forbid, what if there's a firefight in the hospital?
And innocent cops are on the scene.
You know how things can go very badly, very quickly in those scenarios.
I do, and I go back to the idea of, in that very scenario, ideally, you'd have the special ops guys have some sources within California that call them and say, hey man, we're coming in to get this child, and you would be able to tell the sheriff, you know, and the sheriff, If they were doing their job, the sheriff wouldn't allow that to occur in there anyway, but that's another side note.
But they would go in there and do it, and there wouldn't be any violence.
But on the flip side, if they didn't tell anybody, the hospital called security, you could have a firefight that's absolutely innocent on the part of the police.
Exactly.
A whole can of worms.
It sounds like you need to write a script for a movie or something.
Well, there are scripts based on my podcast, that's for sure, that are out there.
But, I mean, think about it.
If your child were kidnapped by the government of Mexico, wouldn't you try to rescue your child out of Mexico or any other country?
Well, what if they're kidnapped by California?
Oh, I know guys personally that have, and obviously their names have to remain silent, but I know guys personally that have multiple teams that go down to Mexico and extract people from...
sex trafficking rings and bring them back.
Well, that's somebody's daughter.
That's somebody's son.
They bring them back.
So that happens.
And this is going to be something that we need to start dealing with because the more we progress into this divisiveness that we have, you're going to see the divisiveness between the states.
The states get disputed.
Now, actually, and I want to tell people this, to see the states stand up for states right again would be a good thing, even if there was disputes like this that occurred because the lack of standing up in the states, the lack of standing up from the counties within the states has created the very scenario the lack of standing up from the counties within the states has created the Yeah.
Well, but, yeah, I understand your argument.
Tenth Amendment, I completely agree with you.
The states need to assert their rights against the federal government, but in this case, we're talking about a state asserting its dominion over a child, right?
Unacceptable.
Right.
And then you have to get to due process.
You know, the 14th Amendment and things like that.
Has the child even been allowed due process before being irreversibly mutilated?
But...
This is a fascinating discussion, and again, I appreciate you entertaining this controversial topic, but we need to be thinking about this because this is going to happen.
But there are so many other issues as well that intersect law enforcement with nutrition.
So, for example, cannabinoids, right?
Non-THC, non-psychoactive CBDs.
I have a family member that takes CBDA to treat seizures, and it's very effective.
And I've taken CBDs.
I don't use THC. I don't use marijuana.
But I've taken CBDs before.
And there's an issue that hasn't been resolved.
And also on gun rights.
The ATF says if you've ever used cannabis, you can't own a gun now.
Yeah.
When I was a younger officer, when the marijuana issue was pretty new, there was a guy I worked with.
His daughter...
Had epilepsy, you know, and some big seizures that were very frequent.
Found out that some of the cannabinoids would work very well.
They do.
Couldn't get that at the time.
Actually moved his whole family to Colorado, where he still works today, and the daughter's doing amazing.
Now, that's a story.
If you go back and look at history, you know, and some of our founding fathers would actually farm hemp.
And it's beyond me, Mike, to look at even...
The THC, it's got one patent out there that I understand that I've actually read, there may be more, but says it can be used, it has a use for chronic pain in the event of a terminal illness or something of that nature, right?
And so having said all that, I can't find in literature any negative to some of the CBDs, the non-psychoactive, non-THC in volume ones.
And they ought to be able to be used all the time.
And for the federal government to get involved in that and make it at one time kind of this quasi-Schedule 1 drug, it doesn't line up.
It doesn't fit the criteria.
And I think that we're heading the right direction on that one, but we're nowhere near where we need to go, especially even with the idea of firearms, for sure.
Well, right.
And look at the contrast where...
If you want to use non-psychoactive CBD, cannabinoids, the federal government says you might be a felon.
But then in cities like New York, they have a vending machine giving out crack pipes.
And in Seattle, I think they will just...
Give you heroin or methadone or maybe both, and here's a place to shoot up and do your drugs.
You know, it's crazy.
The double standard is untenable.
Yeah, and the funny thing about some of the cannabinoids, I mean, they've been around since the beginning of time.
I think you go back and look at Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, probably used to be in people's medicine cabinets way back when, you know?
And it's not anymore, unfortunately, and We need to sort of delineate between the heroines, the methadones, the crack cocaine, and then the plant-based cannabinoids.
They're different things, obviously, and different usages.
And for whatever reason, our country has got into the mess it's got into because we've over prosecuted and we've under prosecuted.
And now we've got this dichotomy about what's too much, what's not enough.
And you mentioned New York, you mentioned Seattle.
What a gross example of under prosecution.
Yeah, exactly.
And hence the need for the DA to have discretion.
But also common sense, right?
I mean, you can always make the decision of who to prosecute or who not to prosecute, but those decisions need to be made by a person who is rooted in the values of the local culture.
That's right.
And when you think about discretion, I mean, this is a big deal.
Discretion has got to be...
Every person has got to be looked at individually.
You can't blanket statement a whole thing.
And that's been a problem.
We blanket statements so many things.
And so you look at a situation and...
Okay, you can say a person made a mistake, it's a one-time deal, and you believe that, you check them out, you vet them, cut them a break.
But if it's a repeated offender that's created violence because of and through that, there's no more breaks.
That's about discretion.
And discretion has to be done in an unbiased, unclouded manner.
Back to the top of the conversation, when you're trying to hold a position where While trying to hold votes, everything is biased at that point.
So your discretion really is clouded and shrouded at that point.
You can't do that.
We need to get leaders back that will do that once again, and that would help us a long way to restoring what we should have in our country.
Well said.
And by the way, the few minutes we have left here, let me just plug your website again.
Sherwood.tv is the website.
I want to ask you kind of what you cover on your shows and so on.
But also, just to let you know, Mark, you're welcome to come here and join me in studio sometime if you're ever in the Central Texas area.
I know Tulsa's not that far away.
If you ever get down this way, let us know in advance.
Have you in studio.
It'd be a fun time.
Yeah, I mean, we'd have a great conversation.
I've enjoyed this very much.
Oh, me too.
Me too, absolutely.
But for wrapping things up today, tell us about your show and what else you cover.
What's your focus on your public education efforts?
Yeah, we just try to give people, we address topics, articles that talk about health and talk about culture and we just dive into it.
My wife and I on our shows and all of our broadcasts and We're trying to give people a balanced perspective, Mike, and I want to give people a roadway to being able to walk healed and walk healthy.
That requires information in the areas of emotional health, physical health, spiritual health, governmental health, and even financial health.
If you can get a person really actively and intentionally doing something positive in those areas on a daily basis, life's not going to get any more easier.
But you will get more resilient in dealing with the challenges of life, and some of that resistance will actually make you stronger.
Absolutely.
Yeah, and I know you're very practical in the way you present information, too, because you like to on-ramp people in a way that's easy for them.
And I'm right there with you.
You know, I used to be more hardcore about it, but now I'm like, hey, if you want to go out and enjoy a barbecue brisket sandwich, go for it.
But...
Take some vitamin C, right?
Or have a fresh orange.
Eat some raw cabbage coleslaw with it so that your body can deal with the burnt portions of the animal fat that, frankly, maybe aren't that great for you.
But, you know, you've got to live, too.
I mean, I'll have barbecue brisket every once in a while myself, but I'm slamming vitamin C with it.
So it's all good.
Yeah, man.
Life is going to be challenging.
You've got to learn to manage it and figure out your road.
I mean, like for me, doing what we do, you won't see me eating brisket because people would point a finger at me and take a picture and put it all over social media.
You can eat it in secret, Mark.
Yeah, you know, I got you, right?
But just a sandwich is not going to kill you, but if that's what you're bombarding your system with, that non-food, anti-food, frankenfood, I call it, right?
Right.
You're going to crush your system and it's going to become non-resilient, immunocompromised, and that's more or less where people are today.
And I just encourage people to start doing more of the right things, like you talked about the vitamin C and orange and some fruit, slaw.
And start doing less of the wrong things.
And the starting line on that is just awareness, like we're doing here.
Right, right, exactly.
No, I'm glad you made that point.
Because I might eat a barbecue brisket sandwich like two or three times a year.
Yeah.
You know, it's not lunch every day.
But it's usually when I'm out with other people, by the way.
Right?
So, you know, I'm with a group and they want to enjoy some Texas barbecue.
Okay, we do it.
But I'll tell you what, Mark.
Invitation, you come down here.
We'll have a secret brisket sandwich off camera.
How about that?
Off camera.
I'll bring a smoothie.
I'll tell you what, I'll bring a fruit smoothie with blueberries and everything to counteract anything in the brisket that might be undesirable.
But we'll load up with some nutrients, but we're going to have a sandwich together.
How about that?
That sounds like a deal, man.
You got it.
All right.
See, there's the balance, folks, right there.
So it's Dr.
Mark Sherwood, and the website is Sherwood.tv.
And Mark, you're welcome here anytime.
It's great to meet you today.
I really appreciate all your thoughts on this.
Yeah, man.
I appreciate the conversation.
Thanks for going down those hard pathways.
And a good conversation.
I hope it gives some people some balanced perspective.
I think it will.
And it's just a reminder to stay healthy, everybody.
A healthy diet, a healthy body makes for a sound mind.
And you need a sound mind in today's environment of so much insanity out there.
And we need to help our children stay sane as all the assaults on their minds are just unimaginable.
But Thank you, Dr.
Sherwood.
Great to have you on today.
Stay tuned.
Don't hang up.
I want to mention something off camera, but it's been great to talk with you.
For sure.
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