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May 10, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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John Bush reveals practical knowledge base...
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Welcome to today's Brighton.com interview.
I'm Mike Adams and joined today by John Bush in studio.
John Bush, of course, is the creator of the Exit and Build Land Summit, which is happening coming up here in a little over a week in Bastrop, Texas.
And John Bush, I've known him for many years, and he is a pioneer in teaching people how to get off the grid and back to the land and also organizing among we the people To actually learn how to be free.
So anyway, John Bush, welcome.
It's great to have you in studio.
Thanks for having me.
Always a pleasure.
I hope I didn't butcher that intro.
I mean, you stand for so much more than what I said, but I wanted to give people a teaser.
So let's start with, what is your overall philosophy?
I mean, we interviewed you a year ago.
Exactly a year ago.
Exactly a year ago.
And is this your third annual event today?
This is the third one, yes, the third Land Summit.
Okay, and that's at exitandbuildlandsummit.com.
Exitandbuildlandsummit.com.
People can watch the first day and a half for free, register for free, or you can get a virtual pass, or better yet, you join us in person.
Okay, awesome.
Now, and that's, again, Bastrop, Texas is where that's happening, Convention Center.
Yes, sir.
Okay, so tell us about the summit and yourself, because I think, I mean, that's...
Sure, sure.
So, you know, I quote unquote woke up back in 2002, caught 9-11 Road to Tyranny, a classic masterpiece on cable access, right?
Because Alex is there in Austin.
And that really just kind of blew my mind.
Did a lot of conspiracy research and started trying to wake people up about the threat of this new world order.
Did politics, got involved with the Ron Paul campaign.
But I began to grow disillusioned with politics because we were having what seemed like victories.
We stopped police officers from being trained to do blood withdrawals.
We put all these privacy policies in place on these DHS fusion centers, this big brother information gathering, intelligence sharing centers.
But in reality, we weren't creating more freedom.
We were simply slowing the growth of tyranny.
Yes.
And that wasn't doing it for me.
So we began to explore what we called alternative institutions or parallel institutions.
Before I learned about Bitcoin, I was encouraging folks at the farmer's market to accept silver dimes in exchange for their veggies, helping people to grow their own food, homeschooling, getting people to connect with one another through mutual aid.
And so really, I like to focus on solutions, empowering people, And the Exit and Build Land Summit is in that vein, and it's most definitely about encouraging people to exit the smart cities, the 15-minute cities as they're now called, and to buy land, build community in the country.
Okay, that's a really excellent synopsis.
Thank you for that.
And I think that the events that we've all lived through here with COVID over the last few years and also watching the establishment just railroad Trump.
So a lot of people, myself included, we thought that maybe Trump could finally help topple the corrupt establishment, but it turned out that the swamp was much bigger than one president.
The swamp is ever pervasive.
And the way to escape the swamp is not even to fight that system, but just to exit that system and do your own thing, which is exactly what you teach.
And we've arrived at this moment in history where even technology makes this even more possible than ever before, right?
That's right.
That's right.
And it's kind of a paradox because the technology is being used for this great reset, this surveillance society, but it's simultaneously being used by good people in order to opt out of their systems.
And that's what the exit and build thing is all about.
Rather than fighting the existing system, we should exit those systems we disagree with, we find to be unethical, the systems that aren't serving us, and build new ones, decentralized, transparent, voluntary systems.
Yes, exactly.
And it's not just local, off-grid systems.
Which is one thing, you know, support your local farmers markets, support your CSAs, grow your own food, trade and barter with neighbors, seeds versus silver or ammo or whatever.
But it's also about...
Right now, the world is moving towards centralized digital currency systems, or CBDCs, central banks.
And we've seen the weaponization of banks against, for example, the Canadian truckers.
Like, you donate $25 and they seize your bank account.
So now we realize we have to exit the entire monetary system as well.
And think about how much freedom that would engender if we are no longer beholden to the controls of the corrupt banking system.
Yeah, and I always point out, you know, because we've been doing this for a while, and before this Great Reset thing really sprung up, we talked about the New World Order as though some far-off thing.
Now it's here in our face.
But even before this new iteration, I call it the New World Order 2.0, this whole Great Reset thing, there was already traditional tyranny.
And when it comes to the monetary system and the banking system, I just get fed up with all of the uncertainty that people have to face because of these bankers and the inflation and the interest rate.
It's total manipulation.
It's pure scam.
So that's problematic.
But now when you add this CBDC element, programmable money, which of course will be intertwined with the personal carbon allowance, and that's what the 15-minute city district thing is all about.
Your district has exceeded their monthly allotment of carbon.
Now you can't go outside of this area.
Everybody's locked down.
You can't.
Purchase plane tickets.
So the CBDC thing is definitely a major threat.
But just again, this exit and build strategy, like you said, if we want to deal with that, sure, maybe legislation will help to slow it down here and there.
But ultimately, we need to start trading amongst ourselves, building what Samuel Edward Konkin, the guy that created agorism, calls the counter-economy using alternative currencies.
Not just Bitcoin and Monero, Cordal, but also old school stuff, just good old barter, flea market type stuff, silver dimes.
So it's critical because if they have total control over the economy and how we provide goods and services for ourselves, then it may be a death nail in the coffin.
Yeah, exactly.
And I think the urgency of this is becoming more apparent to a lot of people, especially as trillions of dollars are being printed.
Now, it seems like the U.S. government is going another trillion dollars in debt every six months now.
It's nuts.
And that's going to increase to every three months or every month.
Can you imagine a trillion dollars a month?
It's exponential.
Yeah.
We're in the exponential blowout phase.
You mentioned Cordal.
So we're doing a lot of due diligence into different distributed platforms, monetary systems, but also distributed apps or dApps.
And I'm looking at Cordal very closely.
I'm in touch with some of the key people there.
It's a very cool system.
I've installed nodes.
I'm doing minting right now on Quartal and I got my developers looking at how to build apps in Quartal.
We intend to contribute to that community.
But, you know, at the same time, you and I both, we grow food, right?
So it's, okay, there's this stuff that's happening in the tech space, which is what this represents today.
But then there's this real-world dirt that you got into, and, like, you and I are actually both wearing shorts, and I actually have farm dirt on my shorts today because I was dealing with my chickens before I came over.
But this is not an odd thing anymore, is it, to be in both these worlds?
No, no.
And what we like to promote and what you promote in Natural News and on your show is a holistic approach.
It's not just let's go deep on stuff, but it's not just Bitcoin or money or wealth.
It's also the family ideals.
It's also let's become more self-reliant.
And really what I like to do through Live Free Academy, my company, we teach people to be more free and we encourage folks to take a self-assessment and to be real with themselves and ask questions.
What are areas of my life that I'm dependent on these systems of control?
And how can I slowly but surely, or more quickly nowadays, move towards a state of independence?
Because I'm constantly learning and following what the enemies of freedom are doing.
And they've revealed their hand after COVID. One of their greatest strategies is to pressure people to make life difficult for people to twist their arm until they say uncle and go take the shot, which many people held off early on, but when they're like, well, you're not going to be able to work, you're not going to be able to fly out of the country, you're not going to be able to visit family members, a lot of people, they buckled, they said uncle.
So if we had our own source of income, if we had our own source of food, if we had our family living together in a tribal situation in an eco-village or intentional community, It makes it a lot easier to resist their plans and ultimately to opt out.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
You make a critical point there.
The more points of control that the establishment has, the more they can leverage people into compliance, which is really self-destructive, obviously.
Tell us about some of the speakers that you have, because you have a very impressive assortment of speakers at your event, the Exit and Build Land Summit.
Yeah, so again, the event's coming up May 18th through the 22nd.
The conference portion is the 19th through the 21st, and we're really excited to have some powerhouse speakers.
We carefully select the speakers based on people that are focused on solutions, getting stuff done.
So it's all about educating and empowering folks.
So we have Curtis Stone.
He's the urban farmer.
Now it's off-grid with Curtis.
This is his YouTube channel.
He's coming from Canada.
It's the first time that he's left in three years.
He teaches a lot of people how to produce income from their own property.
So you're producing your own food, and you're producing your own income, and in many ways, you're in greater control of your life.
And you can kind of move away from this stupid inflation and crazy toxic economy.
Really excited to have him.
He's going to be presenting on how to find the perfect homestead.
We have Jeff Lawton.
He's arguably one of the world's leading experts and thinkers when it comes to permaculture.
Thinkers and doers, designers.
Patrick Wood, of course, he's one of the most leading experts on technocracy.
He's going to teach us about smart cities.
The event's 98% focused on solutions, but we do like to convey how serious this threat of smart cities, 15-minute cities, surveillance cities, truly is.
A good friend, Derek Brose, Jack Spierko, Nicole Saas.
There's a lot of immersive workshops that are going to take place.
And one of the things that we do as well is we do what we call power networking.
So we're going to have 400 plus people there at the event in person, thousands watching online.
And the whole idea is let's facilitate human connections.
So maybe there's people that want to move to Mexico.
The whole thing also is a sales pitch to get people to move to Central Texas.
That's part of it, of course, because we're building a solid tribe here.
There's a lot of really big players here and a lot of people that are getting together and doing cool stuff.
And so we're trying to help facilitate connections.
Maybe there's folks that want to build a community based on Christian beliefs.
Maybe there's folks that want to build a community based on spirituality or yoga.
There's folks that have kids.
There's people that are obsessed with technology and cryptocurrency.
So we bring people together based on geographic location, and then we do another session based on single issues.
So the whole event...
It's facilitated and designed to help crack people open and light a fire under their rear end so they actually do this stuff.
Wow.
And let me ask you this.
In terms of the people who are buying tickets right now, What are you hearing from them that's different from, let's say, a year ago or two years ago?
Is there a sense of certainty that this is the critical knowledge base to acquire now?
Hopefully people aren't panicked into this.
We want people to be practical and have a plan.
We can be positive with the outcome, even though, as I'm famous for, warning people about where we're going.
We don't all have to die.
We can live through this.
But what are you hearing from people who are buying tickets right now?
Well, I think a lot of people know that this is the way, the solution, to exit and build.
But a lot of people don't know how to get from here to there.
And so we really like to focus on strategy and the practical application of these ideas.
Because there's people that want something, but more often than not, they're their own worst enemy because they have all these limiting beliefs.
And one of the biggest objections that comes up is, I can't afford it.
You can't afford what?
I can't afford to buy land.
I can't afford to leave my income, my corporate job, right?
So we have a heavy emphasis on helping people to identify limiting beliefs because, like you said, they're printing trillions of dollars all the time.
All we've got to do is go grab some of that money for ourselves to help fulfill our dreams, right, by doing entrepreneurship or producing value in the economy.
So I think people know what it is they want, and what we're hoping to do is help to push them and help them to achieve what they want.
Do you ever hear from people who they understand rural living and why it's important for self-sufficiency and also just distance from the cities which are continuing to devolve?
But do people ever say, well, I'm just not a country person.
I just, I don't know that I could ever do those things.
I don't know that I could raise chickens or build a fence or whatever.
You hear that from people?
Yeah, we do.
And we try to make a strong case to get the heck out of the city.
And there are people that are tied to the city and that have family in the city.
They have a corporate job.
There are people that don't know the first thing about homesteading.
And honestly, unless you grew up on a farm, I didn't know the first thing about homesteading.
I didn't either.
You just learn as you go.
Experience is the greatest teacher.
Yes.
But I am finding that a lot of people, one thing that appeals to people that still like the city, because I still go into Austin.
My family's in Austin.
Great entertainment, awesome restaurants, Barton Springs, you know.
It's actually overrun with a bunch of yuppies, but nonetheless, the city's really changed.
But one thing I encourage is the middle path.
So you don't have to be in the middle of nowhere two or three hours from a city center.
Right.
Rather, you can be somewhere 40 minutes, 45 minutes, an hour outside of a city.
So you can get the best of both worlds.
And I always encourage people to anchor to a small town, like Bastrop, for example.
So you can still go to the restaurant, the steakhouse.
There's fun stuff for the kids to do.
But if crap hits the fan, you're surrounded by a bunch of conservative, lean-in, independent, many veterans, folks that have guns.
You're not in the middle of a nanny steak place where everybody's all ninnied out.
Yeah, and Texas in particular has a lot of really great small towns to choose from.
And good people.
I mean, LaGrange and Rosanke.
I mean, that's just in central Texas.
And you go west Texas, a lot of other choices.
You know, northwest Texas or far east Texas.
I mean, Texas is a big state.
Obviously, some people don't remember that, but it's like its own country.
It takes a while to get out.
Yeah.
But you're exactly right.
And also, I say stay out of the counties that are controlled by George Soros-funded DAs.
Because if you ever have to, let's say, shoot someone in self-defense, God forbid, you're going to be prosecuted if you're in the wrong county, where your rights go out the window.
So you need to have a conservative county, a conservative town, and a conservative community.
I don't mean establishment Republicans, by the way, when I say that.
I just mean values that are typical pro-America values, right?
Yeah, yeah, and I try to avoid politics at all costs.
It's hard to avoid sometimes, but I would most definitely prefer to be governed by conservatives compared to, like, the whole deep state, left-wing, progressive thing has gone really far into authoritarianism and all this weird woke stuff.
So there's still a lot of good people in office that are trying to do what they think is best for the community.
But ultimately, what we're trying to do, too, part of this exit-and-build thing is, like, why don't we experiment with new ways to organize ourselves and our communities that are decentralized, horizontally organized, instead of vertically organized like a government or a big corporation.
Right.
So that's something that's going to take...
It's going to be a generational approach.
We're trying to think big.
You know, these New World Order clowns have secret societies and gigantic plans that stretch centuries and generations.
But oftentimes, people in our community are just focused on the next election or how am I going to pay rent next month?
So we really try to encourage people to think bigger picture and ask ourselves...
Why can't we decide what our future looks like?
We don't need to abrogate that to the Klaus Schwab's and the Bill Gates's of the world.
We hold all the cards.
And if people can step out of this place of victimhood and step into an empowered place, then we can actually build a pretty cool future for the kids that are yet to be born.
Well, exactly right.
And aren't there, there are so many things that come to us That governments cannot control, for example, sunlight.
So, sunlight, through the miracles of the seeds of nature...
Well, they try to block it out, apparently.
Well, yeah, they're trying to dim it, but even that's going to take them a long time to achieve.
And one volcano does more than all the governments in the world could even dream of.
But sunlight comes to you for free.
Mother Nature converts sunlight into food and medicine, if you know how to harness it, right?
Well, carbon dioxide, sunlight, and water.
But...
Even rainfall.
Think about rainfall.
Falls out of the sky for free, governments haven't yet figured out a way to block you from getting rain.
Or to tax it.
Right.
Although I know in Oregon they try to make it illegal to collect runoff.
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Right.
But with just sunlight and water and frankly the laws of physics and the gift of life, with those things alone, we can learn how to be self-sufficient without taking orders from any government.
Yeah, it's just all about shifting your perspective because a lot of people focus on all the ugliness and darkness in the world.
But whenever you start spending more time with the family, getting the community together for a potluck, getting your hands dirty, taking care of the chickens in the morning when you wake up, you actually begin to have a higher quality of life and experience real freedom.
So, yeah, there's so many blessings and beauty in this world, but a lot of people just focus all their energy and attention on the darkness.
And so I would encourage people to get out there, to meet people, to spend time mixing it up with other freedom people.
We're everywhere.
Like, we have this Freedom Cell network we built, and there's 39,000 people all across the globe.
Wow.
Even in our small, little rural area, there's literally like five households on the same farm-to-market road that we live on in the middle of nowhere, Texas.
Really?
And they're all part of the Freedom Cell network.
And it's like, wow, this thing really has grown.
So I'd encourage people to go get out there and do stuff.
If people want to check out your Freedom Cell organization, what's the website for that?
Yeah, the website's freedomcells.org.
Freedomcells, C-E-L-L-S.org.
It's just people coming together and working on common goals and creating more freedom.
Yeah, I love it.
It's a great concept.
And you've...
I remember you talking about that eight years ago or something.
You've had that concept going for a while, right?
Yeah, something I thought of in 2014, 2015.
Because I was around the freedom movement for quite some time and the Ron Paul thing, and I started seeing this shift towards voluntarism, which is like anarchism.
We just should all have voluntary relationships.
But I recognize, even myself, we're all still complying with all this government stuff.
Why do so many people recognize that we own ourselves?
That we should have free markets and the government shouldn't have authority over us, yet we're still complying here and there.
And I realize what's missing is strength in numbers.
We need more people to stand up together.
My good friend Derek Rose of the Conscious Resistance Network, the idea really caught on with him.
He started a group in Houston, helped to turn it into a network.
And then before COVID, there was like 1,000 to 1,500 people.
After COVID, it absolutely blew up because there's a lot of people that are just behind the computer thinking everything's okay.
But I think COVID, they overplayed their hand and they really showed their true colors and lit a fire under people's butts.
So I'm grateful for that.
We got to get Derek in studio, by the way.
I mean, after your event, because I know that everybody's crazy.
But if you could pass a message to Derek.
I interviewed him here before, a few years back, but it's been too long.
Yeah, he did a lot of good work.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Now, the other thing I want to mention, what I really like about your approach, is it's not confrontational.
So you're not building an insurrection.
You're not building a militia.
You're not building some force where you want to, like, let's charge the walls of the castle and tear it down.
You're just saying, let's just voluntarily do our own thing.
And let's trade and share knowledge and goods among each other.
And let's find a better way than just being obedient sheep all the time.
I mean, it's almost a, would you call it...
Pacifist?
Or is that not the right term?
I mean, you're not looking for conflict.
No, we definitely want to avoid conflict by all means, but we do advocate for self-defense and firearms ownership.
True.
We're not trying to poke the beast either, poke the bear.
My friend Ernie Hancock would always say there's two types of people in this world, those that want to be left alone and those that just won't leave you alone.
Really, we're just trying to be left alone.
And it's my hope, strategically, that if we're not trying to go to their institution, the state, the federal government, and take it over somehow or put our person in power or overthrow the existing power structure, we're just trying to build something new.
Perhaps it won't be as much of a threat, but the trick is it's the ultimate threat because we're helping people to recognize that we do not need government in order to organize society civilly.
Yeah, exactly.
But, well, let's take a practical example on this.
So the governments of the world are pushing us into CBDCs.
It's apparent the FedNow system is going to launch in the next 60 days or so.
What if millions of Americans just say no and say, I don't want to have my money surveilled?
What?
I mean, it's just our conscious choice.
People can decide to either just not use that system, or they can even look at alternative systems.
They can look at crypto.
And there are some really promising new privacy-oriented crypto technologies that are becoming more mature, probably just in time, by the way.
I mean, it's happening in Africa.
People in Africa are using crypto like never before, or people even in Venezuela.
They use crypto where you couldn't trust the local currency, but if you could just buy a mobile phone, people could transfer crypto to each other.
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely important, and I appreciate the strategic thinking.
Like, what does this look like?
And so one of the pain points, of course, is income tax and property tax.
It's honestly easier to avoid the income tax than it is to avoid property tax.
We do have Ron Gibson speaking at the Land Summit.
He does land patents and a loyal title, which is an effort to give back to the original title so the government doesn't have authority over you.
And then we have another guy talking about private membership associations.
Yeah.
So I think the challenge is there's these coercive institutions and mechanisms that people feel compelled to comply with because if they don't comply, there is a chance, although probably less of a chance than you would think, that there'll be armed thugs that come out to get you.
Which is precisely why we're organizing this Freedom Cell Network to try to create a protective backstop to where, let's say the CBDC thing's rolled out, and if you're going to keep your house, you're going to have to pay your property tax with CBDCs, and in order to use the CBDCs, you're going to have to be up to date on your inoculations.
Uh-huh.
So for me, that's a line in the sand, especially for my kids.
I'm not putting anything in my body.
I'm not putting anything in my kids' body.
They're completely unvaccinated.
They're the healthiest kids I know, right?
Way healthier than other kids that are all full of shots.
So that's when you have your people with you, and ideally you have people living on your property or at least in close proximity because there's going to come a time in the future where we just have to say no.
And it's happened throughout history.
Yeah.
And ideally, it's more like a Satyagraha from Gandhi.
It's a peaceful, nonviolent resistance where there's just a bunch of people that are saying no, and it makes it very difficult to enforce or control.
maybe we have good will within the community.
We're good community members.
We're at the farmer's market.
We're active in the community.
We're good people, business people, putting people to work.
So that's my hope.
And I think it's going to take a while, but maybe we don't have that long.
So it's really important that people get together and get organized.
Well, you bring up the critical point here, which is it is government coercion and the threat of government violence against the citizens that actually creates citizen compliance.
And that is the way that the federal government and even state and local government operates right now.
It's like, well, we're going to extract money from you.
And there's nothing you can do about it, or we will arrest you, or we will confiscate your bank accounts, which gets to the importance of non-confiscatable money, which has to be money in the crypto space, by the way.
And I don't know if I told you this, but I was critical of the crypto hype for many years.
I remember.
Right?
But now that with the FTX burnout, blowout, I see crypto as now returning to its utilitarian roots of being...
Well, certain coins, private, non-confiscatable, fully fungible, and easily transmittable, and so on.
So I think this is actually sort of the best new starting point for crypto right now in an age where governments are trying to use coercion to take your money.
There was a city councilwoman, I think in Colorado, who is right now proposing that white-owned businesses have money confiscated from them in order to subsidize black-owned businesses.
Which, you know, is completely insane.
It would be insane either way.
Like, no ethnicity-owned business should ever have their money confiscated to fund some other ethnicity.
That's absurd.
But that's the kind of thing that we're facing in this country.
Yeah, there's a lot of social engineering, and that's like the whole ESG or the inclusivity, equity, diversity thing.
And that's what stakeholder capitalism is, right?
It's part of the Great Reset.
They're trying to reshape the values that business owners need to adhere to, and the environment is one of the stakeholders as well.
And, of course, we care about the environment.
But the solution is permaculture, regenerative agriculture.
So when they take total control of the money system with these CBDCs, they're going to be able to socially engineer the public to be more inclusive, more equitable, the gender stuff, all this weird stuff.
So it's critical.
They're not just trying to control the money to tax us.
They're trying to control the money to shape society.
They already do that with the income tax.
Absolutely.
There's all sorts of manipulation of behavior, incentivizing people to lock up their money in Wall Street in a retirement account for 50 years, incentivizing people to put their money into land and real estate, which is a good thing.
I mean, I got solar panels.
I got a tax credit.
I most definitely was going to take advantage of that.
The CBDCs are going to be like that on LSD. It's going to be hardcore, and everybody's going to be totally manipulated.
Well, exactly.
And doesn't that push us into a situation like South Africa?
Where you basically have almost a collapsed nation at this point.
You have the government declaring war against white people based on their skin color.
In California right now, there are groups demanding reparation payouts of $200 million for each black person in California, even though not one of those people was ever a slave, obviously, and California was never a slave state.
But it's not just that they want to give money to these people.
They have to take it from you, John.
They have to take it from me.
Or just print it.
Yeah, exactly.
At a federal level.
But in the state of California, they can't print it.
So they have to take it from somebody.
Well, who are they going to take it from?
The guilty party.
So if you were born white now, you're born in sin, according to them, and you're going to have your money confiscated.
So there's a whole new level of tyranny, which is why people have to exit that system.
Yeah, it reminds me of G.O. Griffin always talked about collectivism, the dangers of collectivism.
It's just this whole identifying people as part of groups, and you have this groupthink and group ideology.
It really leads to a lot of trouble.
We should all judge one another based on our own actions, our own character, our own merits, rather than the color of our skin or the political party that we happen to belong to.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, let me shift gears into something else.
And by the way, thank you for just being frank.
I feel like I can just talk very easily with you.
We can cover any idea.
Let's go.
I think that what you're teaching is really critical for another reason.
And this gets to my stance that I know you and I have talked about a little bit, but I think we're facing a total collapse of the Western financial system.
Not tomorrow, not next week, but I think the system's going down because obviously they won't stop printing and the currency will collapse.
And when the currency collapses, you know, the petrodollar collapses.
So I think that it's critical for people to have skills like what your speakers are talking about, what freedom cells talk about, well in advance of this total collapse of the system.
Because if you're late...
And you're like, oh my gosh, my bank account just vanished.
How do I buy seeds and then how do I even grow food?
If you're stuck behind the curve on that day, you're screwed.
But if you do it now, you are going to be fine.
You can survive it.
What do you think, when I say that, that the total collapse of the Western financial system, but that we can survive it, I mean, what are your thoughts around that kind of perspective?
So a lot of things spring up.
One, I began to start to worry about total financial collapse back in 2006.
I guess I was just a year or two early from the 2007-2008 housing crisis.
And there was something my dad told me that really stuck with me.
So, you know, 2006, I'm young, and I'm like, hey, Dad, you've got to pull all your money out of stocks.
He worked for a corporate job, retired, was in a good position, had a lot of his money in retirement accounts, 401Ks and stuff.
I'm like, Dad, you've got to pull all your money out.
You've got to buy silver right now.
It's all going to come crashing down any day now.
And he said, you know, John, I could go up in the attic and get you a book called How to Profit from the Impending Collapse written in 1978.
And so that was kind of like a big eye-opener for me because there I was in 2006, which is already many years ago, thinking that it's right around the corner.
And I can't begin to realize that this is all the same perpetual collapse with the can continuously being kicked down the road.
And so I think two scenarios are possible.
One, total collapse, like you said, Mad Max style scenario, like all the systems are failing.
I don't mean everything collapses.
I mean the currency collapses.
The currency collapses.
Everything's going to come with it in large part.
Hospital system, all sorts of stuff.
So I either think it's going to be some cataclysmic collapse or the theory that I'm leaning towards more often now is there's going to be a frog in the boiling pot, slow, gradual, Fabian socialist transition.
To where people don't even really notice it to the Great Reset.
And so it may be that they need to have a currency collapse.
I don't actually think that there needs to be a problem-reaction solution for the masses to accept the CBDCs.
It's just more convenient.
There needed to be a problem-reaction solution for them to accept pat-downs and DHS. Exactly.
So it presents us either way though.
So if it is a collapse or if it's a slow, gradual process towards technocracy, the end result, what we do as a result of that should be the same.
We exit and we build.
That's what we should be doing anyway because it's a better way to live. - Yeah, it's really fast collapse or slow collapse The answer is still the same thing.
We have to become more self-reliant.
And if you think about it, growing your own food used to be a hobby.
It used to be an expensive hobby.
You know, oh, look at my $10 green pepper or whatever, you know, because you spend all this time and money on it and you could just go buy it cheaper at the grocery store.
Well, that equation is changing dramatically.
Yeah.
To the point where now I think an organic red pepper is like $5 or $6 and each one is individually plastic wrapped for some reason, right?
And South America is plastic.
Right.
Where you can grow now, you can grow $100 worth of peppers in your backyard without that much effort.
You can grow $100 worth of tomatoes and as food inflation continues to go up, it's like exiting and building and growing actually becomes the money saving strategy.
Sure.
Which appeals to a lot of people that may not be in the know about what's going on in this world.
One of the things we're going to do at the summit on day one and day five for in-person attendees, there's all these farm tours that have been organized.
Four regional tours, each one of them having two farm homestead property visits.
There's going to be workshops and stuff.
And the cool thing is the three days of the conference, we're going to have farm-to-table meals for lunch, and the food's going to be provided from the farms.
Oh, wow.
How are you organizing all this?
That's amazing.
We actually, somebody named Amani of Haven Earth PMA is organizing the farm tour piece, so we're really grateful that she took that on, and I think it's going to be a really unique experience, because there's some folks that don't live on a farm, or maybe it was back their grandparents or whatever, so we're going to show people, like, this is possible.
It's a lot of hard work, but it's extremely rewarding, and you'll be able to taste the fruits of your labor.
Yeah, quite literally.
But getting back to self-reliance, if you think about it, no matter what happens to the currency, the sunlight, rain, God, Mother Nature, and the seeds, they still produce the same pepper for the same amount of work.
There's no inflation in nature.
Sure.
You just get better at doing it and more efficient, and the soil gets better if you're doing regenerative style.
Exactly, exactly.
And I interviewed, what was it, Dr.
Ingham, Elaine Ingham, the other day about the soil food web.
And she told me something that I want to run by you because it was really shocking to me.
She said that you don't need any...
Nitrogen inputs whatsoever.
If you have a proper microbe life and proper soil health, that is a self-sustaining system where the microbes are releasing the nitrogen naturally from within the soils, and you don't need any artificial inputs whatsoever.
Not even animal manure.
Nothing.
Is that something that you've also encountered with some of the speakers and some of your experience that you can just keep growing without...
Putting NPK on it?
Sure, sure.
Yeah, the health of the soil is a critical factor for any healthy garden, and it's something that we've struggled with.
It's kind of hard to make that happen.
It takes a lot of work and input, but of course the compost pile is a wonderful tool for doing that.
And once you develop a healthy system using permaculture practices, It becomes this self-fulfilling prophecy that continues to get better and better.
I will say, though, we've struggled.
We just set up 16 wicking bed gardens.
So we get an IBC water tank, cut it in half.
You have a reservoir, which we put decomposed granite, and then a garden cloth, and then you have the soil.
And the idea is that the plant roots will wick the water up, so you're not to water as much in Texas.
But I tell you what, gardening...
The traditional way and plants in the ground, it's an ongoing struggle.
And so, obviously, it's rewarding, it's fulfilling, and it's critical for survival.
Even for thriving, it's better.
But it's a challenge.
We recently tapped into this aeroponic garden structure.
It's called a tower garden.
And we're actually working to help distribute those.
If people want to learn more, we have a website, livefree.academy.tg.
But it's like this tall unit.
It has a water reservoir.
You do have to add the nitrogen and the minerals to it.
So it's not totally self-sufficient, right?
Because you've got to have a supply of those.
But it definitely takes the guesswork out of gardening.
You can pop one in your kitchen.
There's also an outdoor unit.
So we're trying to explore all sorts of different avenues and different modalities and techniques.
But like you said earlier, the chickens provide a lot of sustenance, a lot of food.
It's a lot of fun.
And honestly, I think it's easier to raise chickens than it is to grow food from seed to vegetable.
Yeah, that's true.
I would agree.
Once you have proper protection for them.
them yeah you'll lose a few chickens in the learning curve sadly to raccoons and coyotes and falcons and whatever yeah and we're baby chicks with the rat snakes i learned that lesson the hard way but i have about 50 hens and three roosters right now that's a nice block and we're getting you know dozens of eggs every week so and you could take the eggs and barter with people yeah absolutely Absolutely.
And then I'm planting other types of foods around so the chickens have things to feed on other than just artificial feed.
I shouldn't say artificial, but inputs.
I'm growing a lot with the Kratky system, which is the non-circulating suspended net pot system.
So it uses no pumps.
And yeah, half the roots are in the air, and the other half the roots are in the water with the nutrients suspended from the top with net pots.
And I've had a lot of success with that.
A lot.
It's been trouble-free, but of course you can't grow any root vegetables.
No carrots, no beets, nothing like that.
There's a company here locally in Texas called Patriot Green Products that has a lot of compost that I'm starting to grow in now too, some potatoes, and they're into regenerative agriculture as well.
I should connect you with Kevin over there.
He's got mountains.
I love giving business to freedom, patriot-minded folks.
They call it a circular economy.
There's benefits to that.
It's weird how they take all these positive things.
The idea of a 15-minute city, having the food, the entertainment, the schools, the education all together, that seems appealing to be able to access all this cool stuff.
You're like, hell no.
But, of course, they have a perverted way of doing it where it's all about control, surveillance, not getting bad.
So the same thing, a circular economy, we could create a circular economy within our freedom community.
We hire one another.
I have like 17 people that work with me.
I like to say work with me, even though they're working for me.
And it feels good to employ people that share the same values as I do.
And whenever I can, although sometimes I lean on Amazon, but whenever I can, I try to give my business to other freedom-minded folks.
Of course.
It's fundamental.
That's one thing that we try to do with the Freedom Cell Network.
We have this Agora.
It's like a business directory, a listing, kind of like a Craigslist style.
So I always encourage people and challenge people whenever you have a need or a want in life to see if you can get it from a freedom-minded business before you go to the general public so we can support one another.
Wow.
Well, you know, I mean, I didn't bring you here to talk business right on camera, but...
If any of the farms that you're connected to want to offer a product that we can sell to our customers in a dried format or a freeze-dried format, then that's an automatic revenue model right here because we reach a very large international customer base and we'd love to sell locally grown foods.
To them and then create a revenue stream for those local farms.
I love it.
Especially if I could go out and visit the farm, talk to the farmer, shoot a video, like, look, this guy just grew this stuff.
Or this family.
And the kids are here helping.
And then it's freeze dried and we put it in...
You guys have the freeze dryers here?
We don't have freeze dryers here.
But after this, I will show you what we do have.
Sure.
Everything but the freeze dryers.
Very impressed with your operation.
You gave me a tour last time.
You're still setting some things up here and there, but I'm blown away.
We've done a lot more interesting stuff since then, but seriously, we can provide a revenue for a lot of your local partner farms.
I love it, yeah.
And they could be selling highly nutritious, better-than-organic foods to an international audience.
Let's go.
They probably couldn't grow enough to keep the man.
They have to buy the farm next door.
Yeah.
And the thing about that is foods, you think about what you grow and what you eat.
It's not even about the price.
It's about how clean it is and how nutritious it is.
And the act of freedom and self-reliance of growing your own food.
There are many people out there who want true farm-grown food.
It's not about the price.
It's not going to compete with Walmart.
It's impossible.
It's not going to compete with Chinese frozen vegetables.
But people want to contribute to systems that are moving us in the right direction in terms of freedom and self-reliance.
Yeah, without a doubt.
You can't put a price on the freedom and that feeling.
One thing I was doing the other day, because we have three people that live on the property that we have along with my family, so we're building a little community.
And as all the food shortage talks and food supply chain stuff was popping off and the food inflation was through the roof, there was one day when I was walking around my property looking at the chicken coops, looking at our solar panels and the big Tesla Powerwalls on the side of the house and the new systems we were building.
I was like, You know what?
If crap hits the fan, it's going to be a struggle.
It's going to be, you know, maybe a little scary, but we're going to be okay ultimately.
We're not going to freak out and panic.
I know I'm going to be able to feed my kids.
And what we don't grow on the property, which isn't a ton of food.
We don't have a significant portion of our daily caloric intake coming from the property.
But I tell you what, we're connected and networked with tons of farmers and livestock producers.
Like we have a chest freezer completely full of beef and pork that we bought from local livestock producers and ranchers in our area.
Very smart.
In fact, the last time we bought half a pig, I paid with Bitcoin.
So we're decentralizing the food, decentralizing the money.
So nothing can be more important than growing your own food and then connecting with local food producers with a handshake.
There's a guy named Texas Slim.
You should link up with him.
He does good work.
He does the Beef Initiative.
And he's going around the world.
He was just in Australia, too.
And he's like, the whole idea is like, shake a rancher's hand.
Build a human relationship with the food producers on this planet.
Because we need to be giving them our business, and if crap hits the fan, they may let go of a few other clients before they let go of the guy that they know personally, they have a real relationship with.
Exactly.
I have someone who works for me, who also raises some cows, and I bought a quarter steer when she butchered a steer.
Because I don't trust the factory food.
It's like mRNA vaccines in it now.
Well, they say not in beef yet, but in pork, yes.
But it's probably coming for beef.
And I don't trust any of the corporate cow factories.
So yeah, she's going to butcher a steer.
Do you want some?
Yeah, I'll buy a quarter steer or maybe a half.
I'll take all the ribeyes.
Yeah, no kidding.
Well, and then I got the bones for my dogs, too.
too, so the big chew bones that my dogs can go to town on.
But let me ask you this.
For someone who wants to watch everything that you've got in this event, the Exit and Build Land Summit, but maybe they can't attend in person, can't watch it on those days coming up.
If they buy streaming access, can they see it after the fact?
So anybody can sign up for free for the first day and a half, or you can get what we call a virtual immersion pass.
So you get to watch all three days.
You get lifetime access to the replays.
You get replays of the first two land summits.
You get all sorts of bonuses that are all oriented towards this exit-and-build homesteading thing.
And, of course, you'll get to watch.
If you can watch live, you'll get to watch and ask questions of the speakers.
Okay.
So we have a little quad-screen thing.
We pulled the Zoom audience up on the screen, and then if they ask a question, they're actually engaging with the speaker.
Okay.
We can take turns between the in-person and the virtual audience.
But yeah, we have a very, very solid program.
We call it a virtual immersion pass because we try to make it seem as though you're immersed in the event, even though you're watching from a computer or TV at home.
But yeah, you get lifetime access to the replays to watch it at your own pace.
Okay, so if someone gets that virtual immersion pass, they can log in a week later and they can just watch everything.
Sure, yeah.
And we have a professional production team that puts it on.
It's an in-house crew, and I'm really impressed with your studio here.
We have a studio, and I'm constantly improving it and making it bigger and better.
So we're very conscious of delivering a high-quality product, because when people pay, we really make it a point to over-deliver on the value.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, I just think there are a lot of people who, maybe they don't have that time on those days, but they still want to learn from everything, and I just want to make sure they can have access.
Yeah, for sure.
And one thing I've noticed, by all means, if folks don't want to pay or whatever, just do the free pass.
You'll get tons of value for that.
But one thing I've found in the work that we do, because we do a lot of online courses and consultations and workshops, is when people invest some money, even if it's not a lot of money, when they invest in something, they're more likely to implement it.
Oh, yeah.
We had like 28,000 people register.
Only about 5% to 10% of the people that registered for free showed up live.
The people that bought the virtual immersion pass, it was about 50% of the people that showed up.
So it's this thing that we have with ourselves.
When we invest in something, it makes it much more likely that we're going to take it seriously and implement it.
And that's really what it's all about.
We're not just parading all these speakers around or bringing people together to partner anything.
We're hoping to change people's lives and have an impact on them.
Yeah, there are a lot of other ways if you were just trying to sell tickets to something.
This matters.
This is transformative information.
And the more people that we can sort of ignite or inspire into doing these things, setting up your own farm, growing your own food, building your local ecosystem for that, then the more successful and resilient we're going to be no matter what happens.
Yep.
It's awesome that you're doing this.
I appreciate you taking the time to come in studio.
I know you're busy because this is coming up.
You probably have like 500 emails to answer.
I like spreading the word and I appreciate the work you do.
I actually got you a gift here.
I think you'll appreciate it.
It's a two ounce silver bullet.
That is a 7.62x51.
Wow.
Really?
You got me a silver bullet?
Yeah.
Do you think I'm going to encounter vampires or something?
What is this?
That is the coolest thing.
Yeah, it's two ounces of silver.
That's crazy.
Yeah, just appreciate it.
You've been cranking out content and fighting the New World Order for multiple decades now.
Yeah, true.
Okay.
Man, that's amazing.
Okay, I mean, not only the bullet is silver, but the whole thing.
I mean, the brass, I mean, it's everything.
It's the shape of an entire cartridge as silver.
That is very cool.
Okay, well, I'll have to find something for you.
I wasn't expecting that.
I'll have to figure out something for you.
No, it's fine.
But that's pretty cool.
Okay, I'm going to keep this.
This is going to be a permanent fixture on the desk here.
There you go.
Along with some other interesting props that have gathered around here.
Thank you.
That's totally unexpected.
All right.
Well, I guess next time you come off to get you something like a silver.50 cow.
There you go.
Wow.
Like in case big vampires come in.
10 or 20 ounces.
Yeah, exactly.
660 grains, just the bullet itself.
Now we're talking.
Yeah.
Alright, well John, anything you want to leave our audience with here just to wrap this up?
I just want to encourage people to believe in themselves and I know that there's a lot of folks that might be Struggling or frustrated or struggling financially But I strongly believe that the biggest thing that can make a difference in people's lives is their mindset So the more that we step out of a victimhood paradigm and into a place of empowerment believing in ourselves believing in our ability To live a life of our dreams the more likely we are to achieve that and we're gathering a bunch of people That are doing really big things.
And the whole event will be oriented towards inspiring, educating, and most importantly, empowering people to build a life that's in alignment with their values.
And I appreciate you for giving me the opportunity to share.
Absolutely.
We love having you here.
And after this, you know, let's do this again before another year when you're not so crazy busy.
Now, as I get, I could offer you a Rubik's Cube.
That's awesome.
This is actually a high-end GAN cube that is a $30 cube.
If you want that, I've got plenty around.
Otherwise, I've got some supplements and things that I have right over here for all our guests.
Let's go through that and see what you want.
Cool, cool.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you, John.
It's great to have you here.
Yeah, appreciate it.
The conference is at exitandbuildlandsummit.com and you can bet I'm going to be listening in as well, virtually probably, or maybe I'll be able to swing by and hear some of the speakers, but whatever, I want you to hear this information because this is the kind of practical, life-changing, transformative info that I think is going to make you resilient against what I fear is coming.
But remember, at the end of the day, We don't have to just live in doom or fear because John Bush and the people that he's connected with, they teach the skills that allow you to navigate exactly what's coming so we can live in confidence and optimism about our future because we create the future.
So thanks for listening, and I hope you enjoyed this interview with John Bush here, and also FreedomSells.org.
FreedomSells.org, yep.
Anybody can join.
It's absolutely free to sign up, and chances are you'll find people in your area that are down to meet up and work together on cool freedom projects.
Okay, very cool.
All right.
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