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May 4, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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BBN, May 4, 2023 - Save the SOILS to save civilization - or we all starve and die
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Welcome to Brighton Broadcast News for Thursday, May 4th, 2021.
I'm Mike Adams.
Thank you for joining me today.
And my mind is just blown because I just actually finished recording an interview with Dr.
Elaine Ingham of SoilFoodWeb.com and I'm just so blown away by that, this realization that we don't need nitrogen fertilizers to feed the world.
That everything the plants need is in the soil and it's just about making it available through microbes and what does she say?
Microarthropods and nematodes and so on.
That interview is coming up and it's a mind-blowing interview.
I mean, I'm having trouble grasping...
Not trouble, it's just...
It's a paradigm shift, even for me, because I always thought that we had to add some form of nitrogen, even though I do organic food production and sprouting and non-circulating hydroponic suspended net pot systems, the Kratky systems, and I do composting and We're working with Patriot Green Products on their compost.
I always thought we had to add nitrogen.
Well, Dr.
Elaine says you don't have to, which means in terms of your ability to produce food off-grid, this means you don't need to stockpile nitrogen.
You don't need that input if you have the right microbes in your soil.
And what she was also saying is that once you get the right microbiology in the soil, it stays there forever.
You don't have to keep applying it.
So in terms of having sustainable food and medicine and being able to grow and live off-grid, this is revolutionary information here, folks.
I'm just blown away.
Actually, I feel like I should just go home and start farming at this point.
It's like I want to get back into the compost piles.
Just amazing stuff.
I want to make more compost tea.
I want to have a big compost tea plant.
Vat system.
I don't know.
It's kind of like a big industrial compost.
I want to spray compost tea all over my entire ranch.
I mean, these are the things that are going through my mind right at this moment.
But how about this?
Let me cover some of the breaking news headlines here relatively quickly.
We'll get to the interview with Dr.
Elaine, which is mind-blowing.
And then I have a second interview after that with Warrior Mom.
And that's the title of her book, by the way, Warrior Mom.
Her website, I think, is warriormom.org, and she raised an autistic child who was vaccine-damaged, and she teaches other people, especially moms, but could be dads as well, how to navigate this whole environment in which you are persecuted in society if you say that your child is vaccine-damaged.
All of a sudden, nobody wants to be your friend or help you or anything.
It's crazy.
But there's a way to navigate that, so we have that interview coming up with Warrior Mom.
Before we get to that, there's something I want to share with you that's very important, and this is a podcast that I recorded, posted yesterday.
It's up on BrightTown.com.
Can you show my screen?
Here it is.
It's called Half the Human Population Will Be Obsolete in Just Ten Years.
Here's How to Survive the Global Termination Agenda.
This is no joke.
I really encourage you to listen to this as a 22-minute podcast.
And I did not include it in yesterday's broadcast because of the duration.
But what triggered me to cover this was the fact that IBM just announced that they're no longer hiring humans for 8,000 positions within IBM that they believe can be taken over by AI. So that's 8,000 human beings that will be out of work at one company because of the AI takeover.
And those, my friends, are white-collar jobs.
It's not like AI robot dogs working in a warehouse and sweeping a floor.
We're doing fulfillment for Amazon, which is also coming.
We're talking about white-collar jobs, people who write marketing copy, people who write stories, people who do art, who design company logos, you know, all kinds of things.
AI is taking over both the white-collar world and the blue-collar world.
And As I explain to this podcast, in a rough estimate, in about 10 years, or kind of escalating to the next decade, about 50% of the human population today will be obsolete in terms of being taken over by either AI systems or AI-powered robotic systems.
So we're going to have about 4 billion people on this planet that the globalists and the corporations and the governments don't want anything to do with anymore, which is why they've started to figure out ways to kill everybody.
Seriously, that's what you're actually witnessing right now.
They know that half the population will be obsolete.
They don't need you, they don't want you, so they're trying to kill you.
And how are they doing that?
Well, you know all the answers.
You know, weather weaponization, geoengineering, toxic deadly vaccines, infertility shots, poisoning the food supply with pesticides, you know...
You name it.
Oh, shutting down energy infrastructure, shutting down food infrastructure, and destroying everything that keeps civilization running.
But also, as coming up in my interview with Dr.
Elaine, destroying the soils destroys civilization.
And as you know, they're taking, because I did the film called BioSludge, you know, with Dr.
David Lewis, the EPA whistleblower, we know that they're taking the raw sewage, From every city in America and they're barely processing it and then they're dumping it on the farms and the soils, even orchard soils in food producing areas, which will destroy those soils and also will infest them with disease-causing microbes.
So they're actually spreading diseases through the food supply.
Starting with sewage, which is where a lot of these pathogens are introduced in the first place.
I mean, a lot of people are sick, and frankly, they're flushing pathogens down the toilet.
And then they're putting that on the food supply now, and that's destroying the microbiology, the balance of it that should be present in the soils.
And then we are getting more and more sick as a result.
The ecosystem is more and more sick.
The food supply is sickening.
And This is all by design.
That's the point of my podcast here.
I'm saying half the human population will be obsolete.
They're trying to get rid of you in the next 10 years.
They're trying to actually kill you.
And I want to bring up this story here.
Where is it?
Oh, here it is.
From CNBC. FDA approves GSK's RSV vaccine.
For older adults.
Oh, look, this is for people over 60.
You see that?
Why would they want to maybe kill a bunch of people over the age of 60?
Because those are the people who end up collecting most of the Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
And it's these entitlement programs...
That the governments of the world want to end because that is creating financial insolvency or worsening the indebtedness of the nation, which is already, let's face it, $32 trillion in debt in the U.S. So they're rolling out an RSV vaccine, which is exactly what we said would happen months ago.
You can see it in the media.
They're starting to push RSV, RSV, whereas years ago almost no one had heard about it.
And by the way, RSV, it's not a problem if you're healthy, if you have a healthy immune system, if you have a healthy diet and so on.
But they're pushing RSV and it's a vaccine targeting people over 60 who tend to collect pension benefits and government benefits.
This is how they're going to try to keep the government solvent, is killing off people Who are 60 and over.
And now, again, that's my opinion.
I know GlaxoSmithKline would disagree with that.
They would say, oh, no, we're saving these people from RSV. I think they're killing people with these vaccines.
That's my opinion.
And I think they killed a lot of people with the COVID vaccines, too, by the way.
It's all part of depopulation.
So that is underway, not even very difficult to see happening.
Now, by the way, on the financial collapse side of things, there's another important story I wanted to bring to your attention.
Here it is from Daily Wire.
J.P. Morgan Chase recently debanked conservative and religious groups, Republican state officials say.
Now, this is absolutely true.
So J.P. Morgan is the bank that is taking over the failed banks, the small and mid-sized banks that are failing because of, well, the Treasury and Janet Yellen saying, we're not going to bail them out.
And then the Fed raising interest rates, causing a lot of these banks to be upside down in the investment instruments that are backing their customer deposits.
So these banks are going bankrupt.
I mean, we saw three earlier this week that were halted in Wall Street trading, and we saw First Republic failed last weekend, so we're going to have a lot more bank failures, and the bank that takes them over is J.P. Morgan.
Well, J.P. Morgan is one of the most evil corporations in the financial sector, and they will de-platform you if they don't like you, if they don't like what you say, if they don't like what you believe, if you are, let's say, opposed to abortion.
Or if you're opposed to Biden officials or whatever, if you're opposed to the war in Ukraine, I don't know.
If you're anti-war, they might de-platform you.
So do you really want all the banks being kind of vacuumed up by one giant evil bank, which is Jamie Dimon and J.P. Morgan?
And the answer should be, obviously, no, that's dangerous.
That's crazy.
In fact, in this article, it talks about state officials.
Here it is.
Attorneys general...
From 19 Republican states said that JPMorgan Chase has debanked organizations based on their conservative and religious tendencies.
Now, shouldn't that be illegal?
Because, you know, a bank can't discriminate against somebody for being, let's say, black, or they can't discriminate against you for being pregnant or for being a woman or for being gay or trans or anything.
But if you're conservative, they sure will.
Because there's no law protecting conservatives or Christians or, frankly, even white people for that matter.
So these banks that want to go full woke and they want to be a bunch of evil globalists, they routinely discriminate against certain groups that are not protected.
And that's Christians and conservatives and white people and men and so on.
So why can't we have a world where It's wrong and it's even illegal for a bank to discriminate against people for any reason based on their ethnicity or skin color or gender or sexual orientation or what have you.
Because J.P. Morgan should not have the right to say that we're kicking you out just because you believe in God, for example.
And they're doing that.
And why would they do that?
Why would a bank...
De-bank people because they believe in God.
The only logical reason a bank would do that is because the bank is allied with satanic influences.
The bank works for the devil.
Literally, in this case, literally works for the devil.
Otherwise, why would you have a problem with people who believe in God?
Why wouldn't you welcome their business?
I mean, it's obvious.
So watch out for this banking collapse that's taking place, because this is actually all by design, and it's designed to funnel people's assets into a system of control run by satanic corporations, such as, in my opinion, J.P. Morgan is a satanic corporation,
anti-human, anti-human rights, You know, anti-freedom, anti-liberty, and they will destroy everything that they can in this process while bringing down the banks and stealing your assets if they can get away with it.
You know, we're dealing with pure evil.
Speaking of pure evil or just kind of other weirdness, check out this headline from the New York Post.
U.S. Navy hires active duty drag queen to be the face of recruitment drives.
So if you thought Bud Light was the last time you're going to have a drag queen or a transgender trying to sell you something, now the Navy has this guy, drag queen Harpy Daniels.
Oh, what a name.
Harpy Daniels is going to be the digital ambassador.
This Navy sailor is a drag queen.
So, quote, a digital ambassador, are they trying to encourage people to not join the Navy?
I mean, because look at the boycott of Bud Light.
Look at the boycott of even Fox News after they fired Tucker Carlson.
If the Navy wanted to collapse...
They would hire a drag queen as a spokesperson and scare off anybody who might be actually a good member of the U.S. Navy.
This is going to infuriate veterans of the Navy, of which there are many good men and women, by the way, to say, what the heck?
The Navy?
It's all about being a drag queen now?
What is this?
Are you going to have, like, drag queen events on the submarines and the aircraft carriers?
Are you going to use the runway for a drag queen fashion show on the aircraft carrier?
Is that what this is going to be?
You know, I'm sure China and Russia are terrified at this point of the fact that they're going to be facing drag queens.
And, you know, gay helicopter pilot crews and transgenders in the military.
I mean, is this a joke?
Is this a joke?
Has America forgotten what the business of war actually entails, which is gruesome aggression, sadly?
I mean, I'm opposed to all these wars, by the way, don't get me wrong.
But if you're going to have a military...
You've got to have some testosterone in there, even to defend your country against possible invaders.
You can't just roll out drag queens and soy boys and transgenders on the front line with rainbow-colored machine guns and what have you, and battery-powered tanks, which is what the energy secretary now demands.
Supposed to have, I forgot by what year, I think 2030 or 2035, all the military vehicles have to be battery-powered.
You know, what, is World War III going to last seven minutes?
Oh, we ran out of battery power.
Oh, don't worry.
Get the drag queens to fix it.
I mean, are you kidding me?
What is this?
What is this?
The Navy has gone full Bud Light.
It's just, again, look, I'm not opposed to people, if you want to be a drag queen and you want to be, hold on, this is a different story, you want to be a drag queen, you want to be, I don't know, what are those called, furries?
If you want to be your own private gay sex parade party in your basement or wherever, that's your business.
I don't care.
But for institutions like the military to now go full woke, like full LGBT, and then to wonder why they can't recruit anybody, you know, they've got to be doing it on purpose.
It's like Bud Light just wanted to commit corporate suicide, and they are.
Sales are down more than 20% for the Budweiser brand.
The boycotts are working, so keep on boycotting.
Now, I did want to show you this story.
A military to hold nightmarish nuclear drill in Houston...
To prepare for direct nuclear strike on the continental United States.
This is actually being done.
This is from our site, naturalnews.com.
This is being done with the help of the FBI and they're saying, oh, it's going to be a multi-agency drill taking place this entire week.
So don't be alarmed that there are all kinds of federal agents and FBI people, I don't know, moving around, vehicles, what have you.
Oh, it's all part of a drill in case we get nuked.
Now, I have a better idea.
How about you don't try to assassinate Putin every day with a drone?
How about stop pissing off the guy that has the nuclear weapons?
If you're worried about Houston getting nuked, which probably you should be, because that is one of the obvious strategic targets, sadly...
Maybe stop pissing off the other people who have the nuclear weapons that might strike Houston.
How about that?
Instead, they want to focus on, oh, let's provoke Putin and then let's have nuclear drills in Houston just in case there's a detonation here.
It's like the value system is so twisted, everything's upside down.
They want to recruit drag queens into the Navy, but they don't want to prevent nuclear war.
What's wrong with this picture?
We are being led by the most insane, corrupt, lunatic criminals that this nation has ever seen.
And these aren't mistakes, the things they're doing.
They are engineered plans to bring down the United States of America and to destroy the culture from within.
What do you think about this background, by the way?
I like this one.
Yeah, thanks for that.
It should be calming, you know?
I should be, like, taking a deep breath.
It's going to be okay.
We're on the beaches.
Look at that, the snorkeling.
You could do some snorkeling right in there.
Imagine the sounds of the waves gently lapping on the shores of the stones.
You are becoming more and more calm and relaxed.
Oh, and there's a nuclear strike drill in Houston.
Okay, never mind.
It's like they want you to be panicked all the time.
It's just like, I can't deal with these lunatics anymore.
Did you hear that more documents came out about Jeffrey Epstein?
Here's one from the New York Post.
The LinkedIn billionaire, this is Reid Hoffman, who founded LinkedIn.
And this guy is a real piece of work, let me tell you.
He visited Jeffrey Epstein's private island.
And he planned to visit New York City mansion.
This has come out in the documents.
Here we go.
A private island in 2014.
Oh, the pedo island.
I see.
Pedophile Island here, where Epstein and gal pal Ghislaine Maxwell allegedly abused underage girls, the Wall Street Journal reported.
You see, this is not just some fringe conspiracy website.
Wall Street Journal saying that this guy, Hoffman, yeah.
Hoffman was on Pedo Island.
So I think we should ask Reid Hoffman, what were you doing on the pedophile island?
If not, participating in the namesake activity of the island itself.
What were you actually doing there?
Right?
Why are you hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein?
And why are you going to visit his New York City mansion, which we all know was filled with rape rooms and videotapes, so that Epstein, which is part of an intelligence operation, obviously, probably Israeli Mossad and probably CIA, maybe it's a multi-nation intelligence operation, he was getting dirt on people by inviting them, hey, come on over to the New York City mansion, and then, oh, look over there, you can go rape a 15-year-old or whatever.
But we'll videotape that so we know that we have leverage on you.
And what kind of lunatic says yes to that?
What kind of lunatic?
And frankly, the answer is all kinds of people who are now governors and senators and heads of state and heads of corporations.
You realize how many rapists are in charge of all these institutions of society?
And what I really hope is that all these videotapes from Epstein's mansion...
If all these videotapes could come out, wouldn't that change the world, huh?
Right there?
From his rape island.
And what was that kind of weird occult temple thing?
Like an Egyptian occult temple on his island?
What was that thing?
Was it like the rape temple or something?
Anyway, Reid Hoffman, he was there.
Maybe we can ask him, find out.
Tell us, was it a rape temple?
What was your tour like there?
Are you a rape tourist?
Did they have, like, rapey, rapey tourism on Epstein Island?
Like, who else was there?
Was Bill Clinton there?
What about all these other corporate CEOs and big tech people?
Were they there too?
Yeah.
Sick, man.
These people are all sick and twisted.
Let me get this off my screen.
I just can't.
I don't want that sitting there.
Crazy stuff.
Alright, I almost hate to make this transition because I want to get into some positive news.
Which is, frankly, this interview coming up with Dr.
Elaine, which is about the soil food web and the microbes in the soil and how we can actually have sustainable society and grow our own food and grow healthy, nutritious food and medicine.
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Alright, with that said, let's jump into the interview with Dr.
Elaine because it's a mind-blowing interview.
I think you're really going to enjoy that.
And then on the other side of that, we'll have the interview with Warrior Mom.
Stay tuned.
Straight ahead right here on Brighteon Broadcast News.
Okay, real quick here.
I'm going to interrupt myself because late night, we have three banks that are absolutely collapsing in terms of their aftermarket stock value.
And this has been covered by numerous websites, but I'll read from the Gateway Pundit here.
Regional bank stocks are crashing after hours.
So this is yesterday after the close of the markets.
PacWest down 56%.
Western Alliance down 30%.
Metropolitan is down 20%.
So these are the three banks that trading was halted the day before.
And now that the Federal Reserve has raised interest rates to 5.25%, they just went up another 25 basis points.
What this means is that more banks are going to fail.
Period.
End of story.
You know, full stop.
More banks are going to fail.
And Maybe these three will be the next to fail.
I'm not sure.
It looks like at least PacWest is probably about to collapse.
I mean, it's down almost 60% in one day, in a matter of hours.
This is a bank that was named in 2017 as the best bank in America.
And this bank had $26 billion in assets, or it currently has $26 billion in assets.
And so this raises the question that I have been sort of prompting here, which is, how much money does the FDIC have left to bail out collapsing banks?
I mean, you can do the math with me here, although all the numbers aren't exactly clear, but if one bank is $26 billion, how much of a bailout is going to be needed by the FDIC? Not all $26 billion, but could it be $10 billion?
Could it be $12?
Yeah, potentially, easily.
So one bank takes out, let's say, $10 billion from the FDIC. And by the way, Silicon Valley Bank required, I think, more than $10 billion.
And other banks are going to require $5 to $10 billion.
Well, the FDIC only had $125 billion at the beginning of this year, before the banks started collapsing.
So how much money is left at the FDIC? And what happens when the FDIC runs out of money to keep bailing out banks?
Seriously, what happens at that point?
And by the way, The debt ceiling is looming over the United States of America.
You know, the United States government runs out of money on June 1st.
And Janet Yellen even issued a stern warning on that.
The government runs out of money on June 1st.
Folks, that's less than 30 days away.
And by the way, it would be a blessing to planet Earth if the government ran out of money Forever.
Because all they do is terrorize the people and terrorize the world and take away your rights and freedoms and censor people.
It'd be a dream come true if the government ran out of money.
Forever.
Sadly, they'll probably find a way to print more money and keep it all going.
Because the tyrants won't give up power easily.
But how much damage will they do in this process of crushing the banks and crushing the currency and crushing the economy?
Do you realize that the Federal Reserve...
You know, Jerome Powell, he is intentionally saying that, oh, he wants to implode the economy to reduce demand.
To reduce demand.
In other words, to bring down inflation by making people so poor that they can't afford to buy anything.
And that's how they want to reduce demand.
And think about that.
By the way, this is worth mentioning because last year we were very concerned about things like engine oil additives for diesel engines.
I even bought extra engine oil and I bought extra transmission fluid and things like that, hydraulic fluid, because we were going to run out of diesel engine oil.
You know what stopped that?
You know what turned that around?
The collapsing demand for transportation.
Trucking companies are going out of business all across the country.
Cargo is plummeting.
Cargo demand.
I mean, FedEx is closing down pilot centers.
You know, cargo demand is down for UPS and FedEx and USPS. Trucking, barges, boats, you know, everything.
That's what solved the diesel engine oil shortage problem.
It wasn't that supply came back online.
It was just that demand was crushed by a collapsing economy, which is all by design.
This is their answer.
You notice that they will never say, oh, maybe we should stop printing money.
No, that's never an option.
They have to keep printing money because that's how they keep their corrupt system afloat.
But instead, they want to bring down demand by crushing the people, by raising interest rates, collapsing debt markets and loans and business credit and all of that, collapsing sectors of real estate, collapsing retail purchases, you name it, and just making the people poorer and poorer.
And then they say, well, look, guess what?
Inflation is coming down.
Yeah, because...
Folks are homeless, man.
I mean, yeah, of course they can't afford to buy freaking Pop-Tarts at this point or Hot Pockets, whatever.
Of course they can't buy Hot Pockets.
They're dumpster diving, man.
Yeah, you can bring down demand by throwing everybody onto the streets and making them dumpster dive for food.
Like, that's the plan.
That's the freaking plan.
So by the time you hear this, I'm recording this, what is it, around midnight?
By the time you hear this, One of these banks could already have failed, or maybe it takes a few more days.
But these banks are going down.
I mean, a lot of small and mid-sized banks are going to fail, is what I mean.
Especially this year.
Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but coming.
Within weeks, months, there's a cascade.
This is underway.
The snowball effect is kicking in.
And, you know, I pity the fool that can't see it at this point.
It's so obvious.
It's like, it's right here in your face.
And yes, I just quoted Mr.
T from the 1980s.
I pity the fool.
I pity the fool who can't see the banks collapse.
Yeah, that's the famous Mr.
T from the A-Team, which tells you my age, by the way, for those of you who know who that is.
I pity the fool who can't see this coming because they're going to be destroyed.
By just an asset wipeout in the banking system and a fiat currency wipeout.
So I'm not going to go through the whole list here of things that we can do to protect ourselves because I think you know that list by now and you're probably already implementing...
Many, many elements of that into your own plans.
But obviously, if you want to survive this, you have to have assets outside the collapsing banking system.
End of story.
You know, outside the currency, the dollar currency, which is also collapsing.
So it's here, folks.
It's here.
It's happening.
Just keep your eyes on the markets.
Keep your eyes on these banks.
Check out my podcast from yesterday where I gave you homework.
You may recall.
Homework assignment!
Yeah!
All the things you need to do to set up different kinds of banks and wallets and have...
Means to transfer in and out.
You know, just being nimble financially so you can move your assets around quickly without delays.
That is going to be the absolute key, in my opinion, to surviving this.
You need to be able to move quickly in and out of assets.
And anybody who can't do that is going to, I think, lose a lot.
That's just the sad reality of where we are.
Okay, that's my interruption for now.
And we shall continue with the interview.
Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and as you know, I'm an advocate of learning to grow your own food.
I'm an advocate of true environmental protection, that is, protecting the ecosystems that support not just humanity, but every living system on the planet.
And our guest today is first-time guest here, but a very special person.
An actual scientist joins us today, Dr.
Elaine Ingham, who has written numerous scientific papers.
She was recommended by Kevin at the Patriot Green Products, because we've talked a lot about microbes in the soil and what it takes to actually have a sustainable civilization, not to mention the ecosystems.
So, Dr.
Elaine Ingham, welcome to the show.
Your website is SoilFoodWeb.com, and welcome.
I really look forward to this.
Great, thank you.
I look forward to this as well.
So give us a little, since this is the first time you've been a guest with us here, and let me give your website again, SoilFoodWeb.com, but give us a little background into your focus, what you do, and sort of just an overview of your scientific writing and research.
Yeah, probably best exemplifies why I do what I do, because when I was...
Going for my PhD at Colorado State University, the most interesting topic I could see that I wanted to do left over from my master's degree at Texas A&M and working with a group at Colorado State trying to understand what's going on in the soil.
And of course for me it was you have to understand all of these organisms.
We've got to See what it is they do and figure out what they're doing.
My major professor told me to go around to all of the professors in soil science, agronomy, all the different growing plant departments at Colorado State University and to tell them what I wanted to do for my PhD work, which was to determine a method For distinguishing total fungi from active fungi.
Really?
It's just the active organisms that do anything.
Why would you really need to know total fungal biomass when you just want to know active fungal biomass?
That's what I wanted to do.
I wanted to figure out a methodology.
For being able to identify both the active and the totals and then apply it to the real world.
Which soils have lots of fungi and why would we care?
You don't have as many fungi here and so what does that mean?
And I wanted to figure all of that out.
So I went around to all those professors and to a man.
They all looked at me like I was crazy when I got done telling them about what I wanted to do for my PhD.
And they said, no, you can't do that.
You're going to have wasted your four years here at Colorado State University because those microorganisms in the soil, they don't do anything.
Are you kidding me?
No, I'm not.
I'm sorry.
I just broke out in laughter, but wow.
Wow.
It's just, well, you know, they had other things that they wanted to be putting on the ground.
They were doing all kinds of chemical determinations, which was what was going to kill the weeds and what was going to kill this disease and what was going to kill and kill and kill and kill.
And that's not the way Mother Nature works.
She doesn't go around wiping things off the face of the earth.
She gives them the right...
Conditions in which to grow.
And so I wanted to learn all of those things and have spent since when I started my PhD work, it was in 1981.
And so I've been working on this topic ever since and trying to understand what it is that the bacteria and the fungi and the protozoa and the nematodes, all those things that you see in the soil food web are Trying to understand what they do and why is it important and why would a plant want to feed them?
So...
Well, I'm sorry to interrupt, but you're getting into some really big picture stuff here, and I'm so glad to have you on.
Let me just start off by saying, I live on a ranch in Texas, and from the day that I purchased this ranch, there hasn't been a single molecule of a pesticide or herbicide or fungicide that has touched any of that, and as a result, The food abundance, the habitat for rabbits and armadillos and falcons and foxes, it has just exploded.
It's an amazing thing now to watch it come back.
But then I look, I drive around to these bear cattle ranches where they've clear-cut everything, and they've let the cows eat it down to nothing, and then they've treated it with 2,4-D, and it's just like, it's a devastation, it's a desert of death, basically.
Right?
And the difference, I mean, we live in the same county, and the difference is just night and day.
Night and day.
It's astonishing to me.
But I just want to offer you that to start with.
Yep.
And, you know, and the difference of what's going on this side of the road and what's going on that side of the road.
And when you work with Mother Nature, you're going to have the beautiful side.
You try to kill everything, and you don't have anything left for your cows or your Horses or sheep or whatever.
That's right.
And the other astounding thing to me was always, we're putting all these toxic chemicals on our food.
And we're eating that food.
So it's, well, of course you're going to have all these problems and digestive systems and this or that organs doesn't manage to hold out afterwards.
20, 30, 50, 60 years.
The industrial approach to agriculture has been treating the soil as useless and then intervening with nitrogen fertilizers, but also weed killers, GMOs, glyphosate.
Oh, I forgot to mention, by the way, in our lab, we do glyphosate testing.
Just the other day, we found the highest glyphosate level we've ever found in organic black beans.
We got 650 nanograms per milliliter, which is, for the audience, parts per billion.
And for glyphosate, that's high.
That's really high for glyphosate.
650 parts per billion in organic black beans, which is not even a GMO crop.
So there you go, Dr.
Elaine.
We're seeing this where it doesn't belong.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's because...
So growers are told to go out and apply it, and if it doesn't kill off what you want killed, then you've got to come back and put on another amount.
And 80% of anything we spray on the surface of a denuded, well, it's not really soil, it's dirt, on the top of denuded dirt, won't hold on to those materials.
What doesn't get used right away is going to just wash down the hill to the grower, to the next grower, to the next.
And then we're destroying all of our rivers, our lakes, our streams, all the way out to the ocean.
And it's killing things in the ocean.
Exactly.
The dead zones.
Yeah.
How are, you know, human beings, if you aren't aware that we rely on all these good things not to be contaminated, and yet they're becoming horribly contaminated, human beings are writing themselves out of the history of this planet.
That is a very powerful statement that you just said.
Human beings are writing themselves out of the history of this planet.
I completely agree.
In fact, let me ask you this.
Would you agree or disagree that if we don't change the way that we treat soils, then we will not have a sustainable civilization on this planet?
Yep.
And pretty soon there's not going to be human beings to have a civilization.
Because it seems like we're running on kind of the momentum, the gifts that we had by Mother Nature here, but all the life that was in the soil, for example, when the pioneers came to modern-day United States of America, wow, everything was rich and the soil was teeming with microbes, as you say, and the rivers were rich with animals and habitat and ecosystems, but we've been kind of mining that down into non-existence, and there's a limit of how far you can push a system before it just breaks.
Because most of the nutrients that weren't in rocks and pebbles and parent material, most of those nutrients were stored at the surface of the soil in organic matter forms.
And then the roots would germinate.
All the good nutrients, all the organisms they needed were right there at the surface of the soil.
And if you take away the bacteria, fungi, protozoan, nematodes, you can't cycle nutrients.
The only kinds of nutrients that really hang out in our soils are mineral and inside the organic matter.
And so your plant puts out the exudates, the sugars and proteins that the bacteria and fungi want to eat.
So the plant puts out those foods, but with a message held inside of what the plant wants to have these organisms, the bacteria and fungi, Go out and find those nutrients, pull them out of the silica bilayer of the sands, the silts, and clays.
Pull those nutrients out, hold them in the bodies of those bacteria and fungi.
It's kind of just like having a pantry.
Right up close, snuggled next to the root system of your plant, there's the storage.
Along come protozoa.
And then maybe nematodes, maybe microarthropods, and they eat those bacteria.
Some of them, not all of them.
There's only so much a hungry microarthropod can eat.
And so you've got both there.
And all of those microorganisms that got eaten, there's way too much nitrogen, phosphorus, sulfur, magnesium, calcium, sodium, potassium, iron, zinc, you name it.
All of the minerals that your plant requires.
Are there in the right form then for the predators, the protozoa and nematodes, will release those nutrients because they're excess.
There's too much of all of those things in the bacterial and fungal bodies to have the predators hold on to it all.
So those predators just dump it out into the ground as we like to call it the poop loop.
All those nutrients are now ready for plants to take up and usually it's just simple diffusion that pulls them inside the root and now your plant has all the things it needs.
If it didn't get everything, it would put out another exudate and the bacteria and fungi, different sets of them, would go out and pull those nutrients from the sand, silt and clays.
Those sand silks and clays get replenished every year with those soluble nutrients so that they're holding on and not letting go.
Those microorganisms are in there right away, tying these up in the form of a pantry.
Isn't nature clever?
It's miraculous.
If people only understood the gift of what we've been given, we would treat our food webs and farms differently.
But that brings us to such a critical question, is how do we even begin to change The paradigm under which modern mechanized monoculture operates, which is all about producing, I call it shallow food.
It's often nutrient-depleted food.
It looks like food, but it's not actually what I would consider food.
And it's kind of like mining the minerals out of the soil, and it's killing off the microbes.
It's applying all these toxic chemicals.
And that is the model.
I mean, that is absolutely the model that you hear everywhere, even, again, I live in Texas.
I talk to farmers and ranchers, and most of them are indoctrinated by the chemical corporations to say, oh, you need to apply this and that and that.
I even had...
I had a naturalist guy came out years ago and looked at our grass and he said, you know what?
You need to start over.
You need to change all the grass here.
And I said, well, how would you do that?
He said, you would spray glyphosate on the whole field.
You would kill all the grass and then you would reseed it.
I'm like, well, that's not going to happen.
But this is the way people operate.
It's what they were taught in college.
And aren't all our college professors, you know, experts at what they do?
Well, I think they're kind of experts at taking money from those chemical companies to say, oh yes, this is the way you do it.
This is what you have to do.
Where we get an understory of growing plants, maybe no more than maybe an inch, two inches, three inches.
We make certain we've got 50, 60 different species of low-growing understory covering the soil completely so that you don't have compaction anymore.
You have uncovered bare soil, a raindrop falling five miles up.
By the time you get five miles down here at the rate of acceleration due to gravity, when they hit the ground, bam!
And it's just compressing, killing microorganisms that you need to have and compressing down.
So that water, that drop of water that finally makes it to the surface, moving through can only go down an inch or two.
And then it's got to start going sideways and they're going to take all their soluble nutrients that's in your soil and, They're going to be taking all those toxic chemicals that are in that, well it's not really soil is it?
It's dirt at this point.
And down the hill go your nutrients and your organisms and it's killing everything on the way that it's taking down the hill.
But back to my question, how do we possibly change this?
Hopefully the answer isn't, wait for a total crisis where we have mass starvation and food scarcity and then maybe people will learn.
How do we not have that crisis?
We need to teach people how to grow plants without pesticides, without inorganic foods, inorganic nutrients.
We get the biology back held in the soil.
We get the organisms back that build structure, that hold all that water so it doesn't go racing down the hill.
Get the organisms in your soil that can degrade the glyphosate.
There are a whole bunch of species of bacteria and fungi that decompose glyphosate as long as they have other food.
But that's been one of the big mistakes of What happens when you put glyphosate into dirt?
There's nothing there to eat it.
There's nothing there that's going to take it away.
It just rushes downhill as the water goes with it.
So we need to get back that biology into the soil that will decompose all these toxins.
2,4-D, DDT, not a problem.
We've got organisms that will decompose that.
But they've got to have food.
Exactly.
I'm glad you mentioned the microbiological breakdown of glyphosate.
I think one of the byproducts is AMPA because we test for AMPA in the lab as well.
If the microbes do their job, it keeps breaking it down and you get, I guess, ammonia at one point.
It's real simple stuff.
You'll typically get ammonium, which is not toxic to But ammonia, yeah, go ahead.
Breathe a nose full of that.
And how long did you stay alive doing that?
So, you know, we're going to put your face down in the ground and you get to breathe oxygen from the soil.
You wouldn't live very long if it's dirt.
Yeah, no kidding.
We've got to teach people not to listen to people who want to sell them something they don't need.
Pretty much all of the nutrients that your plant needs are It's in
the soil.
Which is well over the amount of nutrients that your crop plant growing at the best it ever could.
It still doesn't even come close to what those giant trees are taking out of the soil every year.
And if it's true that the plants are sucking all the nutrients out of the soil, then how can those redwood trees, how can those sequoia stay alive?
After 2,000 years, growing in the same place.
Growing in these, you know, there's a whole herd of those kinds of trees right there, and yet they're perfectly healthy.
You have to have the right organisms in the soil to feed them and go through nutrient cycling.
But don't tell me that the result of growing crop plants year after year after year is going to suck those nutrients out of the soil and end up in something that you can't grow.
Well, this is really profound.
And, yeah, I have a lot of questions about that, too.
But I think...
So, I mean, right offhand, I would answer that at least some of what that tree is doing is creating carbon structures, you know, using carbon dioxide through photosynthesis.
But obviously it's getting trace minerals out of the soil and it's getting its water and so on and consuming other nutrients at the same time.
But are you saying that...
We could feed the world without applying any outside NPK to the farms, just by protecting the soils?
Yep, by having the proper life in that soil.
Wow.
Those organisms are a surface layer on the surface of all rocks, pebbles, boulders, parent material.
And those organisms are slowly but surely pulling off the top layer.
Leave them behind, sand the silt clay with silica bilayers chock full of those nutrients.
And remember, every year, water moving by will replenish those nutrients in the sand, silt, and clay.
Thank you for being patient with me.
It takes about 20 seconds for...
This is what happens when you turn 70, you know?
So I hope you put up with me.
We're honored to have you here.
This is such a fascinating discussion.
So one question that I have is, you know, sometimes, for example, looking at the history of agriculture, At least what I learned was the farms on the edge of the Nile River, they would do much better after a season of flooding where new nutrients were deposited by the river.
Or I've even seen cases where there have been tsunamis of ocean water inundating coastal farms surrounding the Indian Ocean, for example.
And although all that salinity...
Might at first seem toxic, but then subsequent seasons had much more mineral mass to grow with and the crops flourished.
Is that consistent with what you're talking about as well?
Yep, that's part of all of this.
When you get to different parts of the planet, different things are functioning to bring to the surface the nutrients that the plants require.
Remember that every year all of the leaf material falls to the ground.
So if you're in a temporal environment, even if you're in a tropical environment, you still have a significant number of the leaves that fall to the ground.
Chock full of nutrients.
Every single cell in that plant had to have the proper sets of nutrients in order to have existed.
So we have massive nutrients.
We just need to hold them, keep them, and then make them available again to the plant.
So through a dormant period, the dry season, say, in tropical semi-arid or arid areas, you want to have all of your nutrients held in the bacteria and fungi or in organic material so that come springtime, You get that nutrient cycling going that we've already talked about.
So the plant gets its nutrients without having to put out a lot of energy or time or effort to give those nutrients.
They've just been giving away those materials that they get from photosynthesis.
A non-stop, all of the time source of energy for your plant.
The only thing your plant gets from above ground are carbon dioxide, And sunlight.
That's it.
Right.
All the rest of the nutrients have to come from nutrient cycling in the soil.
So how long does it take for, let's say there's a farmer out there that wants to switch over to regenerative farming, or is that the term you use?
I mean, I've heard, you know, permaculture, lots of different ways to talk about it, but...
I like regenerative because it doesn't exclude people, it includes people.
We just have to teach people that they don't need to waste their money by buying all those inorganic fertilizers and pesticides and all of those things.
Don't need it.
Don't till ever again, please, because every time you till, you slice and dice and crush and turn into just a liquid form in the soil every time you go and till your fields.
50% The beneficial organisms that help your plants resist disease are going to be destroyed in that first time you till your field.
What if you turn around and come back through your field again?
Well, there's another 50% gone.
So now you're at 25% of what you had 10 minutes ago.
But that's fascinating.
But getting back to sort of the transition timeline, are there success stories that you can point to where can this be done in five years or does it take ten years to rebuild one?
One.
Really?
Typically after the first one or two applications of the total diversity of microorganisms that you need are applied, Two to three weeks, you start seeing effects.
No kidding.
If you don't see the effects, then you know that by adding the microorganisms to the soil, they were immediately killed.
That's why we use microscopes, because we want to know sooner than a week or two.
We want to know immediately, are those bacteria, are the fungi growing?
Is there food in this ground?
What's Are the protozoa and the nematodes, the microarthropods, are they starting nutrient cycling for your plant?
So that we immediately start having, we see those effects.
And so right from the very beginning, you can have a turnaround, very rapid, and start getting improved nutrient concentrations.
You get rid of the diseases that your plant might have had.
You Our cycling nutrients, you are building soil structure so the roots can go down as the roots need to go in order to find water in the middle of a drought.
Well, that's critical because we're often told that the only solution to drought resistance is genetically engineered plants, which is nonsense.
You want drought resistance, you need to go this route, regenerative farming.
But does your organization, do you offer a service to analyze people's soils?
That's what we're training in our facility.
Corvallis.
We have other people spread all over the world.
If you want to find the closest consultant, just look on the map of the world and choose the consultant that's closest to you or come to the...
Oh, wow.
I'm looking at your map right now, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
It's almost so dotted out that you can't see what continent you're on.
But we're all the time training more people.
Someone who wants to know enough to apply this to your backyard, to your garden, to the food that you're growing for yourself.
Everything is done virtually, so you don't have to come to Corvallis and Live in Corvallis for four or five years to get through this and it's not going to take you that long.
If you can come home every night and watch two or three of the little modules and keep every night just working through it.
Most people usually say this is so exciting to learn that they don't have to live at the beck and call of the chemical companies anymore.
Yeah, no kidding.
All by themselves, cycle your own nutrients.
And it just takes understanding the fact that most of the composting ways that you've been taught are not composting ways.
Oh, I want to ask you about that.
But hold on a second.
Can you show my screen, guys?
Because I want to show all of these dots, these pins.
This is where you can get soil food web lab technicians across the United States.
And then you have something different here.
A certified consultant?
What's the difference?
Certified consultants can go out and do not only the sampling, But look at the results and be able to make recommendations for what are the different things that you could be doing to get the biology back into the soil so you can realize all these benefits.
Okay, and then another question, but I like to be really practical for people, you know, because I like to give people hands-on things.
I see on your website, boosts of numbers using biocomplete compost and liquids.
So do you sell some kind of a microbiology-rich liquid?
Some of the people who've taken the courses and they're certified to make the compost, the biologically complete compost is...
Really what you need to do because you can make all your own additions to the soil by making your own compost using the waste material that you would otherwise throw away and where does all of that waste go?
Turn it into really good compost and use that to grow your plants in the next year.
So we go through all this training where people learn how to make compost properly So there are absolutely no detectable human diseases.
All those disease-causing organisms are gone.
One, they're not present because we've taken things through conditions that prevent those organisms from growing and all the beneficials can then eat those bad guys, if you will, and make certain that just the beneficial organisms are being applied onto your soils, and make certain that just the beneficial organisms are being applied onto your soils, onto the roots of your plants,
As long as everything has a protective layer over it, a spore of a disease-causing fungus or a bacterium lands on the surface of your leaf, it can never get through that layer of good, healthy organisms that they're getting, the organisms are getting the food from the leaf, they're the organisms are getting the food from the leaf, they're getting it from the plant, but they're protecting the plant, they're helping in so many different ways that you do not need inorganic fertilizers, pesticides.
You don't have to be worried about diseases and pests.
How can...
Do you have a...
Is there a resource where people can learn the proper way to create compost?
Yep.
So that's one of the things we do.
So in our foundation course number two, we treat people...
We teach people how to make the proper compost.
And then we expect...
They're going to, back at home, they're going to collect the starting materials they need in the proper percentages and then put it together, measure the temperature and the moisture every day and when you need to turn it.
The temperature has been high enough, long enough that it's killed all of the pathogens and the pests in the center of the pile.
Then you have to come and turn it.
And so what was on the top What was in the middle is going to be in the top and what was on the bottom is now in the middle.
You just have to cycle things through that hot middle enough times that you are certain to have killed the human pathogens.
That will not flourish under that higher temperature for that length of time.
Okay, that's fascinating.
So I'm learning.
I mean, you know, I didn't know any of this before we started this interview, but you have courses here.
I'm on your website.
You have courses, foundation courses?
Is that what you're referring to?
So with the foundation courses, FC1 is where we teach you all the background knowledge that you have to have in order to kind of fit everything together and understand it.
And most people that go through say, you taught this in such a way that I could understand it.
Oh, wow.
And, you know, I only had a third grade education and still they understand it.
So I promise that all of the scientific gobbledygook I learned as a graduate student, I don't use it when I speak to the human beings, really.
You know, I'm not trying to impress academics anymore.
I want to get everybody fed so that no one goes hungry, no one dies of starvation, no one dies because you're drinking water that's got so much contamination in it that it's going to kill you if you stay and drink it.
Well, let me ask you about these courses.
Again, practical questions, but is this something, because I know a lot of our viewers are going to be interested, do they attend real-time broadcasts, or is it they can log in at any time and watch lessons?
How does it work?
They can log in at any time and pull up the next class.
Okay.
Even if you had to stop the class halfway through, still when you come back the next time, You pull up that class, you can fast forward to where you got left off and finish.
So we teach people then how to make compost, true good compost with all the good guys, not the bad guys.
Massive diversity.
We then teach them how to make a compost extract where you just extract the organisms and then you can apply that in a liquid form instead of a solid form.
It's hard to put down solids.
So, you know, you can easily convert the compost into a compost extract.
And then if you have problems in the above-ground part of your plant, you're going to make a tea, which gets the organisms growing rapidly so they instantly stick to the surface of the leaf or the bottom of the leaf or it sticks to the outside of the fruit or the flowers or, you know, whatever you're spraying.
You have a nice good layer of these organisms that are the organisms that you're supposed to be eating and getting the inside of all of your digestive system covered with these really beneficial organisms.
You aren't going to have to pay for probiotics or prebiotics or post all the different versions because as long as you're eating a number of different foods, You're going to get inoculated with all of those beneficial organisms that help you get the nutrition out of your own food.
Right, and also, you know, promote your immune system to function properly and to make you more resilient against everything that's happening.
Okay, this is really fascinating.
Let me bring in one other thing that I'm sure you will find horrifying.
You know, I've interviewed EPA whistleblower Dr.
David Lewis, and I produced that documentary called Bile Sludged, and our audience knows very well that all over the United States they take the sewage From people and whatever else people flush and then they take that and then the cities, they will go out to the farmers and they'll say, hey, you want free fertilizer?
And the farmers say, oh, it's free?
Yeah, sure, dump it over here.
And they dump truckload after truckload after truckload of sewage with every human pathogen that you can imagine, by the way, and other crazy stuff.
Dr.
Elaine, what's your take on what that does to our farms and soils?
It just accelerates the time that you have to kill everything so that you're not dealing with soil anymore, you're dealing with dirt.
It happens even faster.
Remember when I said, when you till, 50% of the organisms in your soil are going to be killed.
Well, you're going to kill them even faster if you're killing in those toxic chemicals because, as you said, that was a whole plethora of horrible things that you have to think about.
If we've got biosolids, we need to get the microbiology properly working in that material and get rid of all those things that are toxic and not good for the rest of the environment and So that at least someday you can have a relatively decent organic material that could be put onto the soil.
But you've got to check and make sure you've taken care of all the problem organisms in there and nutrients in there.
You know, isn't it fascinating that in our society, people who own farms, they think about leaving the farm to their children one day, but for the most part they think about the monetary value of the farm, the real estate price, or maybe how much corn, GMO corn, it can produce.
But if you really want to leave an asset to your children, wouldn't it be the soil?
Right?
Yep.
Because that's what makes all the difference in how much yield you're going to have and how good tasting.
Those people that we work with in our farms, people are always commenting on how their tomatoes actually taste like tomatoes.
It always surprises me when kids, you say, you want a tomato?
You want a...
Lettuce, you want some of this or that or the other vegetable, and they go, eww, no, that tastes horrible.
And then you give them some of the biologically raised, the organic, but properly made compost.
So even the organic folks could have a little improvement.
Sure.
Because the compost they're making has a lot of these toxic chemicals in it.
You've got to go that one step further.
And what will really blow you away is that it takes less time for us to make compost correctly than it takes to make, what would we call that material?
Putrefied organic matter?
And try to do something with it.
It's just so impossible as a material.
It's like, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've accidentally made some of that in the past as well.
Like, oh, this doesn't look like compost.
Well, I was reading books by the fathers of soil science and going through and I was reading work by the person who's the father of genetics.
They were all growing plants and it surprised me how so many of them understood, with only a microscope to look at these things, They were understanding that all of these organisms were so very important.
But we lost that understanding as we start through some of the really horrific wars that we've had, the amount of knowledge that's been lost.
You read David Montgomery's book on these things, and it's just amazing that humanity managed to make it through to this far along.
No kidding.
No kidding.
And it's, you know, it's...
There are times where I've said I feel like I'm living among a suicide cult, you know?
This is like people are so...
Not just people, but corporations and sometimes governments and sometimes for-profit, you know, like Tyson Chicken or whatever.
I just feel like it's a suicide cult because...
So much is just not sustainable.
You know, you only have so much soil assets, let's say.
You only have so much fossil water.
And if you don't harness these resources and protect them, you do eventually run out.
And we might be at a tipping point in some ways, it seems, pretty soon.
What are your thoughts on that?
Yeah, well, you look at the weather.
And we've had an increase of 100% of the number of tornadoes across the United States, and it's just getting worse and worse with every passing year.
It's the change in the difference in temperature between the North Pole and the equator.
And as those two bodies of wind and rain smack it up, It's just horrific what's going to be done to the surface of the soil.
That part of what we're doing to ourselves is going to force us to live underground.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I've even noticed, you know, I've lived in Texas for a while, and there used to be springs everywhere in central Texas.
Those springs are gone, and then I look how they've clear-cut the coastal regions for farmland, and I think, well, gosh, isn't it important for trees to respirate, you know, to reintroduce water into the more inland regions, and people say, oh, we don't have enough water here.
Well, that's because they're clear-cutting to the south.
That's right.
Yep.
Absolutely.
And, you know, just all the things that we're doing selfishly with no care for the planet.
And I almost feel like people who are extremely rich should be looked down at.
They're not returning enough of the money to those people that made that money, that millionaire.
And we should treat people as pariahs even if...
They're not doing enough to give back to the society that made them rich Well, I feel like we need to redefine wealth entirely, you know?
And, I mean, here I am.
I'm in my suit, which is just here in the studio.
But when I go home, I'm in my ranch garb, and I have my goats, I have my backyard chickens, I have my rescue donkeys gathering eggs or cleaning out the chicken coop sometimes, which is no fun, or, you know, take care of my dogs or whatever.
And I feel like That feels real.
That's the real world.
That's where I live.
This is where I'm on stage to talk to the world and try to introduce them to the reality that I go back to.
You know what I mean?
But so much that's public is technology and money is so artificial.
What's real is when you get back and you're growing food.
Yep.
And...
I don't understand what really calls people to live that lifestyle of, well, we must have the yacht so that we can steam over to wherever it is we want to go and try to impress everybody.
Not real people when they do that.
No, it's funny because I have been invited to go to speak at events and they say, I'll be invited like, oh, we'll put you up in this luxury place and you'll have these luxury meals and this and that.
And I'm like, how is that any better than where I live every day?
Because I have fresh clean water, I have fresh chicken eggs, I make smoothies.
I mean, I can't get that at your luxury resort.
It doesn't exist.
And it's like I always worry about drinking water from, well, certainly wouldn't do it from the faucet in the bathroom.
Sure.
Yeah.
I'm not even sure about the bottles that, you know, plastic and you unwind them because they sure could be giving us a story that had, you know, it looks clean and pure, but That doesn't give you much information anymore these days.
Yeah, exactly.
And really, none of us trust the big corporations anymore, the Nestle's of the world that are taking over the water supplies.
And we all have huge questions about that.
But I think, and what I'd like to focus on here for the last few minutes with you, and thank you for taking the time with us.
This is really fascinating, but...
We need to boil down some simple ways for people to start into this.
So I guess they can go on your website, they can read, they can learn.
Do you have a video channel anywhere where people can watch some of your lectures, things like that?
No, because that's what's in the foundation courses.
And then after you finish making compost extract and compost tea, we're going to get you on the microscope and start teaching you what all of the beneficial organisms are.
So you can identify them for yourself.
So here's what you really need to know.
And you can go anywhere and start helping other people.
Just by knowing what is really beneficial sets of microorganisms, the food web is very beneficial.
And then for where you're going to have problems, these are diseases, you've got to do something to fix your dirt because...
If you don't have organisms in your soil, you can't do anything with it.
You're going to have to put on inorganic fertilizers and pesticides, and then you're going to eat that.
About the microscopy, what magnification is even needed?
I mean, does a person need a super expensive microscope, or just a couple hundred dollar scope will work?
Yep, yep.
So somewhere between 250 to maybe 350 for the microscope and then the camera that goes with.
You only need magnification up to a 40x nosepiece objective lens.
So it's not that expensive.
We have some students in the course that really loved having just perfectly beautiful and sharp So they buy cameras that are a bit more spendy, but you don't have to do that.
I want to try this.
I'm fascinated because in our lab, we have a mass spec lab, and we have a $100,000 microscope.
It's got a lens that goes to 2,000x, which is, at that point, you don't even know what you're looking at.
There's a blob, you know?
Yeah.
I think the outside of the blob is out here, and I'm looking at, I don't know, what is that, the stomach?
Yeah, I can't tell, but you're right.
I mean, but I can't wait to do this.
I'd love to learn some of your material.
I'd love to help share this news with others and get them on board with what you're doing and put it into practice.
Because I was planning on planting some corn this year, And I just, you know, again, the traditional way was, oh, you need to till it.
You know, plow that field.
Till that sucker.
Yeah, let's make sure all those weed seeds are right here on top.
I know.
I know.
It feels like I'm going to be just growing milk thistle everywhere to reclaim the dirt, which is what they're good at doing, I've noticed.
But how do I grow corn without doing all that?
You've got to make certain that you get a fungal-dominated or an equal biomass of fungi to bacteria.
And that's what the composting is all about, is getting the right bacterial-fungal ratios.
So you can mix that into the soil, lay it down on the surface, and then apply a compost extract to it so it helps move things deeper and deeper.
And typically, your compaction layers in the top three feet are going to disappear.
In the first year, because all these cute little critters are reforming all of those aggregates.
They make the glues to make the aggregates, and so there's all kinds of different sizes.
Water infiltrates, goes straight down instead of running off, is erosion.
So down deeper then, you've got all these cute organisms that make the open areas where the water will fill it up to half of its height.
And so there's your source of water during a dry, dry season up above.
Wow.
Some people have looked at how old is some of this old, ancient water, and it's in just unbelievably high thousands of years that that drop of water has been sitting there waiting for a root to come along and take it if the plant needs it.
Wow.
The plants have never needed it.
This is how I interpret that.
This is just revolutionary, what you're saying.
I mean, it means that...
Because right now, I've talked about the Haber-Bosch process and how right now about half the planet is living off of nitrogenous fertilizers, most of which are created from natural gas.
And what you're saying is that we don't need that natural gas to create, well, I guess first ammonia and then nitrogen fertilizers.
If we do this soil approach, Then we can have food security and food abundance without dependence on the hydrocarbons.
Yep.
That's amazing.
Yep.
We don't need those big chemical companies anymore.
It's been, I don't know, how do they live with themselves sometimes is how I think of it.
Because they've pulled the blank over people's eyes for hundreds of years.
Well, yeah, and, you know, BASIF is actually shutting down in Germany, by the way, because there's no more natural gas there, you know, because of what's happening with the conflict.
But I feel like we're at a point in human history where a lot of farmers are going to be forced to look at regenerative farming because the other inputs, I mean, the supply chain of those inputs is literally collapsing.
I've been working with us that have followed their techniques and in the first year of growing on like 10,000 acres in the Hudson River Valley in New York State, per acre they would have to pay $160 for the inorganic fertilizer.
That's low from what I'm hearing now, yeah.
That's low.
Yeah, but right next door where they put in the biology, they only had to spend $20 per acre.
And they got similar yields?
They doubled or tripled the yield.
That's amazing.
And I imagine they have more disease resistance and more drought resistance.
Right.
You don't need pesticides because they're resistant.
The plants are resistant to it.
If we found a place where some weird, strange microorganism came along and started growing, I think we could just as rapidly take out that organism.
But we do it through methods that nature has been doing for the last, oh, billion years.
I think she's had a little practice to get this together, you know?
And so we spray with something, with a...
Highly diverse, has all these different kinds of organisms, and we have never had the case where if it's done correctly, we don't have a disease-causing organism that escapes.
Wow.
So, okay, let me mention this, too, because I'm finally putting the pieces together here.
What you do is you train people to actually have a whole new career in being soil experts that help other people solve their problems with soils.
Or if you want to stay home and develop a farm, you could go to Saturday markets or Wednesday markets and sell your materials as regenerative ag.
And people recognize that it's a certain set of practices that are without pesticides, no inorganic fertilizers, taste much better, They're disease resistant.
They're exactly what your digestive system needs on the inside.
We could start changing things.
We have started changing things around at a fairly huge level.
Yeah.
Well, we're going to have to.
I mean, it's obvious at this point.
If we don't change, we don't make it, you know?
I mean, this current course that we're on is just, it doesn't sustain.
You can kind of pillage the land for some short period of time, and then you collapse.
And, you know, we have the history of other civilizations that collapsed, like Easter Island and so on, or the Anasazi Indians, you know, Southwest America, modern-day America.
If you don't take care of the ecosystems, you do collapse.
And it can happen to us, too, folks.
You look at all of the civilizations in Africa, in South America, in Asia, Southeast Asia, in the islands.
Think of the fact that Mongolia was once a forested land.
And you look at it today, and it's just like moonscape.
Couldn't we get that back into production?
And John DeLue is showing that absolutely we can.
We can take that sand and we get the biology back into that material, a little organic matter.
So take your waste materials, turn it into good compost.
And they've resuscitated entire valleys in China.
So we've got to lead the charge.
We need to get going on it and really show people.
And it's really those demonstrations that are needed.
People tend to not believe that it's possible.
That all those professors that they so admired when they were at school, now discovering that those people were lying to them.
Yeah.
Yeah, or they were just speaking out of complete ignorance.
But, you know, it's interesting to me being someone who's, I'm into, you know, health and nutrition and disease prevention, but it's the same paradigm shift where if you take care of your microbes in your gut and in your body, then you have all these beneficial properties and you don't need all these chemical interventions.
And the soil works the same way.
And once you get those organisms back into the places they're supposed to be and you feed them the normal sets of foods, they'll stay there forever.
You don't have to keep replenishing them.
Same thing in your garden.
If you get these really good organisms in the soil, you treat them properly, they're going to be there forever.
So you don't have to go around paying $20 an acre in order to...
You know, get some of the materials that you need to get your plants to grow.
Nature does, I mean, the energy comes from the sun.
The microbes do their work for free.
Obviously, we don't have to pay them royalties, and you don't have to go buy them at Home Depot.
Exactly.
Thank goodness.
All right.
Well, this is really mind-blowing stuff.
I'm so intrigued.
No wonder Kevin was speaking so highly of you and saying that we've got to get together and have this conversation.
Any final thoughts you want to leave us with today?
I hope we can talk to you again.
This is amazing.
Absolutely.
Go and take a look at some of the featured success stories where people have started with dirt And very quickly turned it into real soil with all of these benefits that we've been talking about today.
We're actually missing some of the...
When I started out working, I could very rapidly see that we had at least five different ways that the plant would be more productive and better nutrition for us.
Today we're up to 11 factors that we can get...
Properly produced once again within your soil and the plant just doubles and triples in the amount of produce that it makes and the best tasting because nutrition, the good foods inside that what you're going to eat taste so delicious and That,
you know, even the kids that would make a face when you say you've got to eat your broccoli or you've got to eat your beets or you've got to eat those cooked carrots, they don't shrivel up their nose at the thought of eating it anymore once it's been grown in proper soil.
Right.
I get it.
I mean, the strength, the energy of the plant allows the plant to do its job of synthesizing more and more things.
And let me just share this with you, Dr.
Elaine, because...
Even, you know, I've had conversations with people, simple conversations, like, okay, you're eating a tomato.
And they're like, yes, okay, you know that tomato contains lycopene, right?
And they're like, yeah.
Where does the lycopene come from?
And a lot of people think, well, it must come out of the soil.
I'm like, no, the plant makes it!
It makes it.
It synthesizes out of hydrogen, carbon, and oxygen.
And I think that's all.
HCO is probably all that's in lycopene.
Vitamin C is the same thing.
You name every carotenoid, every antioxidant.
The plant makes it.
So it's using energy to synthesize the nutrients that you need as a human being.
It doesn't have to be added to the soil.
No one's spraying vitamin C on the soil to grow oranges.
That's right.
And yet they're not taught enough about the biochemistry of life.
And so it's probably another course that we need to add into the list of courses at the school.
But we'll get there soon enough.
Very cool.
Well, this is just amazing.
You're opening my eyes and I'm having a great time talking with you.
So I appreciate you taking the time.
Great.
Thank you very much for offering me the time out of your busy work.
I should be back on the ranch, actually, growing compost, it seems like.
I'll do the best I can.
Thank you for your time, and we'll be in touch.
Okay, thank you.
All right.
And for those of you watching, again, the website is soilfoodweb.com.
And again, just a fascinating interview.
Feel free to repost this interview, of course, on other channels or other platforms.
You have our permission to do so.
And most importantly, get hands-on, people.
Even if you don't know where to start, start with something.
Start growing something.
Start composting something.
Save your kitchen scraps.
You know, I mean, just get started.
Grow something.
Do it in pots on the windowsill, if that's all you have, or on the back patio, but start somewhere.
This is how we get to food redundancy and sustainability as a civilization.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and I appreciate you watching today.
Dig into it, folks.
This is how we're going to save our future together.
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Okay, jumping in here with another update, kind of interrupting my show again.
Sorry about that.
Before we go to our second interview, which is, I think, the Warrior Mom interview coming up.
Two pieces of news out of New York that are just jaw-dropping about the nanny state that's happening there.
So, number one, New York is the first state in the United States to ban gas in new buildings.
So anything they construct now, apartment buildings, office buildings, whatever, there can be no gas appliances whatsoever.
Your gas stove, forget it.
Your gas water heater, forget it.
They want you to be tied to the grid.
They want you to be dependent on electricity, even though the electricity can't be delivered reliably, as you've seen if you live in New York over the years.
You know, storms and just grid strain, by the way.
You're going to have rolling blackouts, but more electric vehicles coming online and charging is going to crater the power grid, which can barely keep up, by the way, under certain conditions.
So they don't want you to have gas because they don't want you to be able to cook food To heat water?
To boil water?
They don't want you to be able to have energy unless they can meter it with their smart meters and their centralized control over your electricity.
So understand that what's happening with central bank digital currencies and how they're trying to shove you into digital wallets coming up, So they can monitor and control and limit everything you do with your money.
They also want to do that with kilowatt hours.
So they want to be able to monitor and control everything that you do with electricity so that they can ration kilowatt hours to you and say, oh, you're not allowed to charge your car more than X number of minutes so they can limit your range, you see, you know, to save the planet and such.
In fact, that's what this is all about.
They claim this is about saving the planet.
So you're going to have to burn more coal and more natural gas at the power plants to inefficiently generate electricity, to inefficiently transmit it across transmission lines, to inefficiently convert it into your conductive electrical stovetop, whatever. to inefficiently convert it into your conductive electrical stovetop, whatever.
And that wastes so much energy.
It's far more efficient to just ship natural gas to people and just let them burn the gas right there on their own stoves.
But see, then the government loses control because they can't meter the gas molecules very easily.
It's more difficult to centrally control and they can't just turn it off like they can your electricity.
They don't have a centralized means to just punch a button and shut off everybody's gas.
But they can do that with smart meters, you see.
They can do that.
And smart meters are also a surveillance system.
So Nanny State, New York.
No gas.
Good luck at the next hurricane or super storm or whatever.
Maybe not so much hurricanes there typically, but super storms, yeah.
Remember Super Storm Sandy, I think it was called?
Unbelievable.
I mean, get out of New York, folks.
Get out of New York because it's...
It's going to become a death trap.
I mean, you won't even have gas.
What if the power grid goes down?
You have nothing.
You can't even boil water.
You can't cook food.
What are you supposed to do?
This is like email Governor Hochul and complain, but the email doesn't work because the power grid's down.
I mean, get yourself to a state where you have a chance to survive all this.
Now, the other thing that Kathy Hochul has done...
That's also indicative of the nanny state.
She is trying to ban the sale of all tobacco products.
All tobacco products.
But, of course, not marijuana.
So, if you want to smoke joints and doobies, or I don't know all the slang.
Some of you maybe know the slang better than I do.
But, if you want to smoke a bunch of weed, no problem.
New York City, I've heard, smells like weed.
But if you want to smoke a cigarette, oh my God, you're some kind of crazy criminal.
So Governor Hochul is going to ban the sale of all tobacco products.
And this is a story by the New York Post.
And she wants to ban not just menthol cigarettes, but any kind of tobacco chew.
And I guess anything that you can light up and smoke that is tobacco, she wants to ban it.
And she's putting out polls and everything and asking people for their support and so on.
But she says this is crucial for public health.
Again, smoke all the weed you want and, you know, abort your babies.
I don't know, drink the dirty, polluted New York City water and eat food grown in human sewage, you know, bio-sludge fertilizer and And all that crap, but oh, how dare you smoke a cigarette?
Now, of course, I'm not pro-smoking.
I don't advocate that anybody take up smoking.
But this is an issue of, you know, commerce, freedom.
If people want to chew tobacco or they want to have a cigarette, you know, as long as they're not smoking in my space, that's their own private deal.
This is the foundation of personal liberty.
If you want to smoke, go for it.
Even if you want to smoke weed, you want to smoke tobacco.
I guess even if you're Hunter Biden, maybe you want to smoke crack.
I don't know.
But, I mean, I'm not opposed to other people smoking cigarettes.
It's just when the government comes along and says, oh, we want to shut all this down, we want to force you.
I mean, they're just going to force people to go to other states and buy their cigarettes there, which just adds more transportation, more energy usage, which I thought Governor Hochul was all about saving the planet.
But now she wants people to drive long distances to buy a pack of cigarettes, which is exactly what's going to happen.
These people just have no clue about economics and human behavior.
I mean, economics actually is the study of human behavior, so it's all insane.
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You know, go to Florida.
You can still light up a cigarette in Florida.
In the UK, don't they call them fags, the cigarettes?
Isn't it like smoking a fag?
I've heard that saying.
If you call an extra fag...
If you go, a light for my fag, you know, things like that.
Have you heard that?
I'm pretty sure I'm not making that up.
I've heard that in the UK, cigarettes are called fags for whatever reason.
I don't know.
That's interesting.
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Okay.
I mean, hey, it's 2023.
Who knows what's going on?
Okay, I had to look this one up.
Actually, here it is.
The word fag is a British slang for cigarette, which originated in 1888.
And it's thought to be derived from the word, well, I guess a phrase meaning loose piece or last remnant of cloth.
As in fag end or an extreme end or a loose piece.
Okay.
Which is perhaps they say is related to fag or could be a variant of flag.
So maybe it's like the loose end of a flag.
I don't know who's smoking flags, but it may have evolved independently during the time periods when cigarettes began to be called cigarettes.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, whatever.
So, I wasn't wrong about that.
People are smoking fags in the UK. There you go.
Might be a good habit to break.
I don't know.
Up to you.
You know who needs to smoke some fags would be Governor Hochul of New York.
Hey, Governor, we brought you some fags for your fagalicious, fantastic, fabulous Fag Friday Smoke Fest.
How many fags would you like?
We could have all kinds of fun with this one.
Since this is an actual term used by the British to describe cigarettes.
But anyway, we've got to move on.
Although I could enjoy this all day.
Let's move forward with an actual interview.
Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And, you know, we love to interview people who have courage, people who are making a difference in the world, people who are aware, awake, alive, and compassionate.
And today's guest is, I think, a really great example of that, a champion of that.
She's known as the Warrior Mom.
And her website is WarriorMom.org.
Her book is called Warrior Mom, and her name is Tracy Slepcevic, and she joins us today.
Oh, she's also involved in a leadership position with CHD out of California.
That's Children's Health Defense that was founded by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
So we're going to talk about RFK and the Warrior Mom book and so much more.
Welcome, Tracy, to the interview.
It's an honor to have you on.
Well, thank you for having me.
I truly appreciate it.
Absolutely.
And I am seeing like a perma smile on you right now.
I think your video froze.
It'll catch up.
Let's just keep going.
But at least it froze in a very positive facial expression.
So that's always a bonus.
Well, that's good.
Yeah.
Okay.
So we'll just keep going and see if that catches up.
So tell us about, first of all, you have an autistic child, correct?
I do.
So, my son Noah was vaccine injured when he was one from the MMR and Priscilla vaccine, and he regressed into a state of autism after full-body rash, fever for a week, and a slow regression, and a pediatrician who just kept telling me how normal it was.
Oh, my.
But you know, at this point, you know that it was a vaccine injury that caused this?
I do.
So it took me two and a half years to figure out what's going wrong with my son and many of God's angels who guided me on my path to healing and a wonderful doctor who, after the first functional medicine doctor, after our first visit together and I gave her his history, she Looked me straight in the eyes and said, you know, your son has been vaccine injured.
It's very clear that those are signs of a vaccine injury.
Wow.
Did you, at any point, did you try to work through the vaccine injury compensation program?
I actually didn't know anything about it.
So, We were struggling.
My husband fights big insurance.
And during that time, he exposed the insurance companies and the state of California insurance commissioner, who was Steve Poisoner at the time for fraud and collusion on smoke and ash claims.
And they did a smear campaign and he wound up on the front page of the LA Times saying, Tanking is business of 20 years.
Our house went into foreclosure.
All this happened just as I found out my son was diagnosed.
So there were very little resources, very little funds, and my focus was going to go towards healing.
And I wasn't going to take my eye off the ball and focus on anything.
It sounds like then you were thrust into the warrior role.
I mean, you weren't out there asking for all kinds of obstacles to overcome.
It's kind of like this was handed to you and you had to adapt.
Is that right?
Yes, absolutely.
But, you know, a very...
Dear friend of mine and a naturopathic doctor told me, Noah will be fine.
I want you to go do your research.
Kids are making great strides with biomedical intervention, and I did exactly what he told me to do.
I sucked the tears back up into my eyes.
I went home.
I became a major research junkie, went to conferences.
Picked up books, did everything I had to do to ensure that he lived a fully functional life.
That's extraordinary.
And it takes great courage to do what you've done.
I want to mention your book again.
The book's title is Warrior Mom, and the foreword is by Dr.
Andrew Wakefield, another American hero, or I guess British American hero, technically.
He's a hero to the world.
And here we have Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Giving you a testimonial about your book, which is awesome.
And tell us about what people learn in your book.
Is this a book for other moms who have also stumbled into a situation or are realizing they have a vaccine-injured child?
Does this book help them navigate that situation?
Even for a parent who...
Is a new parent or a parent who doesn't know the direction to go in regards to getting an evaluation, what services are available.
So the first part of my book is very much about my story.
It's a story of hope, inspiration.
Even as I lost stuff, you know, we lost our home, our business.
I bartered for treatments.
I did people's marketing.
I sold everything I could when I put it on eBay, and I set a clear intention that I was going to heal my child.
So I wanted to motivate parents, and I wanted to teach them that you don't need to have money or things or whatever to create healing for your child.
That's a really important point.
I so agree, because as I've mentored parents over the past 13, 14 years, The number one excuse I get is, I don't have the money for that.
Well, I didn't have the money for that either.
Right.
And then part two is very much like a guidebook in some questions that you could be asking yourself if you think your child could have any type of neurological disorder.
And what are the resources?
Where do you go prior to age three?
What are your resources after age three?
I didn't know...
Any of these things.
So it took me a very long time.
I wasted two and a half years, you know, with Harbor Regional Center losing our paperwork, two preschools telling me, I'm sorry, I can't care for your child.
He's got special needs and a pediatrician who continuously kept telling me everything was oh so normal.
So, you know, I provide all that information and then Some information about some organizations that are out there really making a difference the other ones that aren't making a difference.
And the third part is very much about healing.
It's all about the different healing modalities.
Now, I can tell you that these healing modalities didn't just work for my child, but I did everything that Noah did.
When I put him on a special diet, I put myself on a special diet.
When he did the treatment, I made sure that I was the guinea pig, and I tried it before he did.
I never wanted to subject my child to anything before testing it out on myself first.
So, I did everything and I can tell you because I've been in the military and I was in the Air Force and I had so many chronic things going on with my body.
Joint pain, migraines, I mean, at a young age, diagnosed with glaucoma, you know, all these things.
I could give you the laundry list.
But as I was going through all this and cleaning out my gut, as I'm cleaning out Noah's, I was healing myself.
So I talk about a lot of the different healing modalities, treatments, therapies.
I say I threw everything at Noah but the kitchen sink and just, you know, whatever would work would work.
And then I do have a vaccine chapter in my book, but I don't go into the controversy of vaccines.
I paint a picture for these parents.
This is what this gets to look like.
So as I was sitting in an airport the other day, there are no accidents.
This brand new mom with a baby in her arms sitting next to me.
And I'm like, let me give you my book.
You know, you're a new mom.
This is your new baby.
You have so much to learn.
So I believe anybody can benefit from it.
Good point.
I do talk about Dr.
Andrew Wakefield's story.
Me, as a parent of a child with autism, so many of us parents on this journey have so much respect for that man and everything that he's been through and how he had nothing to gain, everything to lose, and he literally made his oath and stuck to it to do no harm.
And I honor him in my book.
And then I wrap it up with, you know, you have choices in life.
You know, you could choose to do one thing or do another, but your child is going to either suffer or benefit from your choices.
Yes.
Powerful information.
And I'm so glad that you have the courage to put all this in a book.
Also, you mentioned how your family had been targeted for blowing the whistle on certain things.
So I have a question for you on that.
Do you find it Because I'm sure you're in touch with a lot of moms in particular across America and other countries.
Do you find it shocking how moms are persecuted by society the minute they say that their child is vaccine injured?
Oh, absolutely.
I've, you know, it's been years and before COVID even came about that, you know, all of us moms were called, you know, the anti-vaxxers.
Like we followed Andy Wakefield.
We are the anti-vaxxers of the world.
Why aren't we pro-health?
Why is it that we would risk ourselves, our reputation, or any of these doctors would do this to just spew false information?
Why on earth?
Why would these doctors risk their medical license, their careers?
People just don't, I don't understand, and sometimes it does get a little frustrating for me, is I'm going around, you know, from state to state, Talking to people and parents and everybody.
I was just sitting on a panel this past Sunday with some vaccine injured women.
And one, for example, who was in a wheelchair, who could barely speak, you know, had to get a vaccine because her job mandated her to do so.
And for that, the rest of her life is, you know, to her, she's like, my life is over.
To listen to that, it kills me.
It absolutely kills me.
Well, again, this is why your voice is so important, and I'm so glad that you had the courage to author this book and to come on and talk about it here.
I just want to encourage people, they can find this book where the usual places, Amazon, Barnes& Noble, other booksellers.
Yeah, so my book is wherever books are sold.
You can go to Walmart, Target, wherever you want to buy a book.
If you want to go into a bookstore, it is in some of the Barnes and Nobles, not all, but the various ones.
Within a certain radius, you can find my book at bookstores.
Okay.
All right.
Let's move on to the next question.
But for the viewers, I just want them to know that your video continues to freeze here and there.
It's no big deal.
Your voice is coming through just fine.
But I just want the viewers to know that it's not a technical problem.
If they're watching this, it's actually in the recording.
So no worries.
We shall continue.
Let's talk about CHD. CHD California, some new people, some reorganization taking place, and you have a leadership position there.
CHD, Children's Health Defense, of course, in California, has been on the front lines fighting for the freedom of choice and parents' rights and so much more.
Tell us about what's happening with CHD right now and moving forward.
So the old chapter of CHD was shut down and the women running that chapter have started their own organization.
So we had to relaunch CHD California.
So it is relaunched as a new CHD. We're restarting all from scratch, you know, new social media, you know, building up, you know, our followers and And, you know, email correspondence as well.
So if you wanted to sign up to receive any of the correspondence from CHD California, you can go to ca.childrenshealthdefense.org.
And you can find all that information.
What we're doing, we are doing We're all serving the same purpose.
So we're fighting all these legal battles, legislation.
We're out there being a voice.
We're going to be holding events and fundraisers and really just supporting what Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s grassroots approach was.
And that was to solely, one, to make sure that CHD is run by volunteers.
So a lot of times when I donate towards nonprofit organizations, I want to know where my money is going.
If somebody says it's for research and I don't see that they're actually doing the research, then I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to give them my money, my hard earned money.
So I can tell you that CHD California all itself is 100% run from volunteers.
We are all giving our own time and And effort and money as well to make the world a better place to, you know, make sure that people are getting the information that they need and, you know, to support the National Children's Health Defense as well, which is majority run by volunteers.
So CHD is one of my favorite organizations, and this is why I got involved, because I've been watching over years.
As I did research for my book, I had to have solid information and research.
And because so much of it is buried, and all those published studies are so deep, and I couldn't find any of them, I relied on Children's Health Defense and their website for information on those studies because a lot of times they'll have the links to those studies as to where I can prove that what I said was actual facts.
Really important point.
Let me just jump in here.
I'm showing the website on my screen.
It's ca.childrenshealthdefense.org.
And, you know, Children's Health Defense, we've supported for years.
I do have a question for you, though, Tracy, with Robert F. Kennedy now running for president on the Democrat ticket, and we hope he wins there.
How, like, is he just taking a leave of absence from CHD, or how's that working?
So, because there's a conflict in, he, so he does have to take a leave of absence from CHD. I mean, he's very much...
Still, you know, that voice that we need him to be.
He's still fighting those.
He's still submitting those lawsuits.
He's doing everything that he has always done for the past, what, 35, 40 years, you know, fighting against, you know, them polluting our environment, the Unnecessary vaccines, everything.
Honestly, if it's going to poison your child, he's literally going the distance, and so are all of children's health defense attorneys as well.
Agreed.
This is a very worthy organization to support CHD, and I also have the website up here for Kennedy24.com.
And I want to encourage all of our viewers, you know, even if you're a Republican, by the way, in fact, I want to talk about that for a second, but even if you're a Republican, join the email list at Kennedy24.com because From what I'm hearing, a tremendous amount of support for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
is actually coming from Republicans, which maybe should be kind of a warning shot against Trump and his position.
If this ends up Trump versus Kennedy, or maybe it's going to be Trump and Kennedy together, I don't know.
I hope so.
But if it's Trump versus Kennedy, Trump is going to lose a lot of people who are Republicans that will go over and vote for Kennedy.
And in fact, I'll even say this on the air, Tracy, I am thinking of switching my party temporarily to the D just to vote for Kennedy in the primary.
I mean, that's how much I love this guy.
He's amazing.
But when he says he's running for president, he says he's running Kennedy Democrat.
So he is very specific that he wants to change the The current situation with the Democratic Party.
And that is one of his main goals in what he's focused on doing.
I truly believe him.
And I laugh because in all of his interviews and his initial speech, the number one thing he said is, I have many skeletons in my closet.
But if all of those skeletons could vote, I would win this election.
So he is laying it out for everyone first.
All right, before you bring it on and you attack me, absolutely, I have skeletons.
So I thought that was super funny.
But, you know, he is very near and dear to my heart because he fights for the safety of not just the children, but the people.
Do people not see that he has been, you know, an environmentalist for so long?
You know, an attorney fighting against the oil companies, polluting the waters, the drinking water, the air.
I mean, the guy literally fights for everything that is hazardous to our health across the board.
It's not just one thing or another anymore.
Yeah, well, I remember before it was CHD, wasn't it the World Mercury Project?
Wasn't that the previous name?
Yes, I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, because, you know, I'm a food scientist, specializes in heavy metals testing of food and supplements.
And so, you know, we look at mercury, lead, arsenic, and cadmium all the time.
And I remember that every time Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
would talk about mercury, I was like, yes, right on, he gets it.
He gets it.
Mercury is extremely toxic, especially during neurodevelopment.
And we have to avoid exposure, especially with pregnant women, and breast milk also, because breast milk can convey heavy metals to the child, and then you add all these other environmental toxins on top of that, and then vaccines, some of which still contain trace amounts of mercury.
Certain flu shots do, but lots of aluminum as well.
Aluminum is a neurotoxin, so Everything that he's ever said on his medals is 100% correct from what I've seen.
What are your thoughts?
Absolutely.
So I have a chapter in my book that talks about eliminating toxins in your environment and all the different toxins that we're exposed to and how we don't even realize that the furniture we sit on or when you buy a new car and you love that new car smell that it's releasing VOCs and you're absorbing all those toxins.
You know, these are definitely things that are, you know...
Detrimental to the body itself.
And as I have been way over vaccinated as a mom, I was my son's incubator.
And although they say it's only about 3% a chance that you can genetically inherit a disorder or a disease or something from your parents, but you can pass down your toxic load, unfortunately.
Yeah, this is absolutely critical.
We have to avoid environmental exposure to these substances, and then we also have to understand safe detoxification.
Do you cover some sort of detox in your body?
I do.
I do cover chelation.
Now, this definitely has to be monitored by a doctor.
There are many different ways to chelate these days.
I can always recommend your natural detox.
You know, form of chelation is Google heavy metal detox smoothie from the medical medium.
I'm telling you that all the ingredients in there are naturally chelating and then there's also a binder in there.
But, you know, they do have IV chelation, they have suppositories, they have compounded capsules, they have zeolite sprays, you name it.
All those different things are all chelating, but your natural foods You know, like your cilantro and all those different things.
Those are also chelating to our body as well.
Well, I show this to my audience frequently.
This is my daily smoothie.
This is a detox smoothie.
I've got spirulina and chlorella in there.
But I would just offer a gentle correction since you said Google.
I would say also detox your search engine and use something like Brave Search instead of Google because Google is so aligned against human health and human freedom at this point.
It's almost a Google's like a disinformation search engine, actually, at this point.
It's incredible.
But I get your point, though.
Thank you for understanding the point I'm trying to make.
But nutrition is the answer in so many cases.
But yeah, when you're pregnant, you don't want to do crazy, radical detox things that can stress your system and cause damage.
You need to do it carefully and with professional guidance.
I'm sure you would agree with that.
I definitely recommend, especially when it's children, a mild form of chelation.
A lot of these kids don't like smoothies, so I could tell you that my son can't stand smoothies.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, well, he's got to try my avocado ice cream chocolate spirulina smoothie.
This tastes great.
It's got bananas in it.
It's awesome.
Yeah.
So there are other forms.
There are even like zeolite spray is going to, you know, slowly detox the body.
So the whole point is, is that heavy metals store in your fat.
And once they travel up to the brain, it's very hard to chelate the brain because there's not much that breaks the blood-brain barrier, right?
And then they talk about, oh, you have all these heavy, you know, mercury doesn't break the blood-brain barrier, but as RFK Jr.
said at the CHD conference in November, he said there's two different types of mercury.
There is one that doesn't break the blood-brain barrier, but the other one absolutely does.
And, you know, these are a lot of things that we just don't realize.
And as they tell us, oh, well, we removed numerisol from the MMR vaccine.
But it's still in the flu shot.
Right.
It blows my mind.
And then as I was talking to Andy Wakefield about this, he's like, what are you talking about?
He's like, they never had thumerisol in the MMR vaccine.
And I'm like, well, here's the link.
It's on the CDC. He's like, that's a blatant lie.
He said it was never in the MMR. So...
Honestly, I don't even know what it is that's true, that's not true.
I know that he's the expert, so that's why I had him write my book.
But on that point and why I think your book and your message resonates with so many people right now is because through this COVID fiasco that we all suffered through, a huge percentage of people living today came to realize that they're just constantly being lied to by the medical establishment.
You know, whether they're pro-vaccine or oppose the vaccines or they want to delay them or spread them out, whatever...
People realize they were lied to about lockdowns.
They were lied to about the efficacy of these mRNA vaccines.
They were lied to about the emergency use authorization and so on.
And they were lied to.
They weren't allowed to know the truth about ivermectin, for example, or zinc or quercetin or these other things that can be part of a complementary approach to save lives and prevent human suffering.
So right now, I would say more than ever, The population is, they've lost faith in the institutions, which is deserved, because those institutions are constantly lying, and they have begun to do more research on their own to find the answers that resonate with them.
I absolutely agree.
So, believe it or not, As I released my book, I knew the backlash that Jenny McCarthy got so many years ago when she wrote Louder Than Words and Healing and Preventing Autism with Dr.
Jerry Cartzenell.
And I was, so my husband said to me, he's like, are you prepared?
And I said, well, I am prepared.
I said, because I went through it with you.
I mean, I had people literally telling me to my face that my husband was a crook and it was so untrue.
And it was nothing but a bogus article that was made to smear my husband's name to try and silence him.
And that's why you got big insurance, big pharma, not much different.
So all these things I knew, but as my book came out, and even when I was on the high wire with Del Bigtree, and I heard from hundreds of parents all over the world, My feedback has probably been about 95% positive.
Now, I do get people who don't understand.
They see the word healing on my book.
So the name of my book, Warrior Mom, A Mother's Journey in Healing Her Son with Autism.
Now, I don't understand how people look at the word healing and think I'm saying cured or changed.
Changed is a big one.
So I'm like, I did not cure or change.
I address the underlying conditions so my kid could fully function and lead the fullest life possible.
Wait a minute.
People get triggered by the word healing?
Are you kidding me?
Yeah.
That's crazy.
I mean, there's so many levels of healing.
You know, there's spiritual healing.
There's self-healing.
There's mental health healing.
There's physical healing.
There's family healing, social healing.
I mean, come on.
It's such a beautiful word.
Why?
So I never, it was just what resonated with me and I always kind of let spirit speak through me.
But I was, as I was watching one of the episodes on The Chosen, which talks about, you know, Jesus's journey with his disciples, there was a moment where one of the Roman soldiers was sitting down with, you know, a family and he told them,
he said, make sure that That you are cautious as to how you use that word healing as they were talking about he's a healer, you know, that Jesus was a healer.
And they're like, why?
I don't understand what's wrong with healing.
And it kind of painted a picture for what I've been dealing with that as to how, you know, it's a battle between darkness and light for sure.
And so...
A lot of these people, and I will take the time to explain to them, you know, this is what I did for my child.
He is still an amazing kid, you know, no matter what.
I didn't change him by any means.
I addressed that so he could live a healthy life free of pain.
He had a lot of gut pain, you know, stomach pain, self-injurious behavior.
All those things are a sign that your child is sick.
So, In all these kids, you know, there's something, and there's no contraindications with addressing, you know, underlying conditions.
But you know what you just described there, helping your child live a life with a lot less pain, that is, in my opinion, that's clearly a type of healing.
And, you know...
I think that the establishment hates the word healing because they want everybody to falsely believe that you have no control over your health outcomes and that the only way that you can be cured or treated of anything is to have medical interventions that your immune system is useless, your body is useless, your spirit is useless, you as a parent are useless.
I mean, this is the messaging from the medical establishment that, oh, give us your child, surrender your child to us, we'll take care of him.
And we'll poke and prod and inject and draw blood and do surgeries and whatever, and then it'll be fine.
But you can't engage in healing.
I mean, that's the way I interpret their message there.
It's pretty twisted.
Or they'll take them from you, because it seems like a big threat these days is that if you don't do what we say, we are going to take your child from you.
I've had frantic parents reach out to me and say, well, I don't know what to do.
I'm afraid if I tell my pediatrician that I don't want to vaccinate my child for their safety, that they are going to report me and I'm going to lose my child.
And I said, well, here's your number one, you know, clue.
Don't go to the pediatrician.
What is a pediatrician's visit?
What are all these visits designed for?
They're designed for your child to get vaccines.
I can measure my child, how tall he is, how much he weighs, and see what percentile he's in.
And then you just trust the herd immunity that God created our bodies to be like.
And, you know, and just trust that they're on their own perfect journey.
But you can, these days, you can tell.
It's very obvious, the children who've been vaccinated and those who haven't.
Well, speak to that some more because I agree with you, but I'd like our audience to hear what you're observing.
So in the first year of a child's life, they receive up to about 21 to 22 vaccines.
That's a lot of vaccines.
And a lot of those are full of neurotoxins.
And during this time, all these neurotoxins are floating around the body.
And then what happens at age one, they receive those live viruses, the MMR and the Vracella vaccines.
And those live viruses are going to kick in an immune reaction.
And what's going to happen is your body's going to release microfosh, which is your white blood cells.
And it's going to go throughout your body and it's going to start eating up all the bad stuff, right?
It's going to want to find the bad stuff.
But a lot of times, that's like the direct path to your brain.
So let me let those microphages just carry all this stuff through the blood-brain barrier.
And that's what a lot of experts are saying that they feel is this direct correlation as to why the trigger is the MMR. It may not be the cause.
The absolute trigger is the MMR. And is it the foods, the GMOs, the air you breathe, the...
The toxins in the air, the chemtrails.
I mean, the list goes on and on.
But in terms of the child, what are you observing in these children that tells you they've been vaccinated?
What, a lack of cognition or allergies or what?
They're not functioning like other kids.
There's not much eye contact.
There's not much sociability.
Their motor skills aren't the same as these other kids who are a lot more healthier than them.
You can clearly see that.
I mean, I always say to me, the eye contact that's fleeting is a very big one.
And their lack of communication skills.
Some of these kids can speak.
Some of them can't speak.
Some of them just don't know how to engage with other people.
It's very awkward for them.
They don't know how to take direction and play sports or something.
Like the neurotypical kid.
So Noah was that kid.
I'm so grateful that the first year he ever played soccer, he had such a great team and such a supportive coach that they were always encouraging Noah on the field.
Come on, Noah!
But Noah needed that constant, wake up, kid!
Because he was all over the place.
In a lot of ADD, ADHD, it doesn't matter.
It's all a spectrum.
They're all That's just a higher functioning side of the spectrum.
But what does this say about society if, because what you're saying, I believe it's true also, but this society through the pharmaceutical industrial complex and through the medical tyrants, they are pushing essentially vaccine violence onto generations of children, causing neurodevelopmental disorders in society.
Literally millions of children who will, of course, grow into adulthood someday and will still suffer the effects of the neurodegenerative effects of these toxic chemicals that have been injected into them.
I mean, what kind of society does that?
That's where we're in battle between darkness and light.
And I ask this question every day.
I'm like, honestly, how could this be happening?
Because I knew that the rate of autism was high.
Absolutely.
And that most of those numbers aren't reported.
Even though they say one in 36 now, a good majority of those numbers aren't reported because that's only eight year olds.
Now you have new young adults and adults that are being diagnosed on the spectrum.
And where is that coming from?
They were normal functioning.
They're going and get too many vaccines, and then they're starting to regress.
And now experts are saying that by the year 2030, one in two children will be on the spectrum.
And so if you ask me, I believe the numbers are way worse than they are because as I release this book, everybody I run into has a child now.
On the spectrum because they're like, oh, I didn't know that your son had autism.
All my neighbors and, you know, close friends and they're everywhere.
It's just, it's so sad.
Yeah, I mean, you really can't even properly describe the level of evil that is now intrinsic into the institutions of vaccines in Western medicine, which is why I'm so grateful that you wrote this book, Warrior Mom.
I'm so grateful that you're involved with CHD California, which is, again, fighting for the right to say no.
Without having your children kidnapped from you by the state.
I mean, let's be honest.
That's what we're talking about.
Absolutely.
And I'm also so glad that you support Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
as I do in his bid to be the Democratic nominee for the President of the United States.
And in each of these three things here, what do we have in common?
It's the courage to tell the truth, the courage to step forward and save children and try to end human suffering and hold accountable I'm so grateful.
I'm so grateful.
I don't fear anything.
I truly believe that God's angels are surrounding me.
They're always protecting me and guiding me into this perfect journey.
And this is what I was created for.
You know, my son is turning 18 in a couple months.
He's graduating next month.
He's doing really well.
I mean, he drives.
He takes care of himself.
He's just a kind and loving human being.
And now it's mom's turn to go out into the world and share what I know.
And really, I wrote this book.
I dedicated it to my son, but I wrote this book for the parents.
I don't want them to go through what I went through for two and a half years trying to figure out what's wrong with their child.
I really and truly want to give them the guidance, the inspiration, and the hope that they need to truly You know, heal their child.
But first and foremost is believing that your child can function.
Yeah, really good point.
And that may require a paradigm shift in the minds of some people, but I want to thank you for taking the time to share this story with us today.
I'm glad you said your son is now 18, and I know an autistic young man in Texas.
I've known him for several years because I'm friends with his parents, and he is now finishing his fourth year of the university.
I mean, it was unthinkable 10 years ago, but he's going to graduate from a university in Texas with a four-year degree, and yeah, he drives himself everywhere.
He's very functional, and he's retained some pretty amazing...
I mean, I don't mean this in an insulting way, but Rain Man skills, like he can do crazy, awesome things with numbers and calendars and dates and things.
I mean, the guy's like, he's got this genius component of his brain that is hyper-functional.
I'm serious.
It's like, wow, this kid's amazing.
But because of his parents, he's going to graduate from college.
So that's pretty cool.
You know, they're also very unique and they all have their own special skills and they all have their Their abilities and disabilities.
And really, it's just focusing on their strengths, you know, to allow them to grow from that and just to move forward.
Because if you just focus on the negative, then, you know, to me, I'm very much, you know, energy is everything.
Everything's energy.
And what you put out there is what you'll get back.
So truly, I put healing out into the world, regardless of what people think that the word means.
And I got healing back.
But there's so many people fighting on the forefront, and I'm truly grateful to stand by them.
Amy Bond from PERC, you know, all the other organizations that, you know, Dr.
Peter McCullough, who's on our advisory board with Dr.
Brian Hooker and Michael Blum, who's one of the attorneys, you know, fighting All these mandates and lawsuits alongside of RFK Jr.
I'm truly, truly blessed and grateful.
I feel like it's a good time to be alive If you can look at it that way.
I'm a bit of an optimist.
Well, okay.
Look, I love your optimism.
I love your energy.
I think that's absolutely necessary.
And even though sometimes I feel like the doom is closing in, I've always said I think we can overcome.
We can get through this.
And we can actually create a better world on the other side of whatever darkness we're going through.
So I think we're on the same page there.
Thank you.
We've got to wrap this up, but let me give out your website one more time.
WarriorMom.org is the website.
And then the book, of course, is Warrior Mom, available at booksellers everywhere.
And also check out CHD California, which is ca.childrenshealthdefense.org.
And then finally, if you want to sign up for Robert F. Kennedy's website, it's kennedy24.com.
And I also mentioned we will be launching rfk.news coming up soon.
That's just our own private thing.
It's not in conjunction with Robert F. Kennedy.
In fact, he'll be shocked to know we're doing that.
But we're doing it because, you know, we need some independent media coverage.
Thank you, Tracy.
It's been a lot of fun.
I appreciate your time.
Absolutely.
Thanks, Mike, for all you're doing and creating awareness and for having me on your show.
I am truly grateful.
Well, you're welcome here.
We'd love to have you back.
And also other people from CHD like Brian Hooker, we welcome them on the show.
So spread the word.
We'll do more interviews and connect with more people.
Sounds great.
All right.
All right.
Take care.
And it was fun and somehow your video always freezes on pretty good expressions.
You must smile a lot or something because your freeze frame smile rate signal to noise ratio is like the best I've ever experienced in this business.
So that's interesting.
Well, I'm happy to hear that.
Yeah, I think you have a high smile rate, so that's a good sign.
But thank you all for watching.
I'm Mike Adams of Brighton.com.
And of course, as always, feel free to repost this interview on other platforms and channels.
And get this book, Warrior Mom, take care of your kids.
Help them heal, because I think healing is a real thing.
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