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Welcome to Brighteon Broadcast News for Tuesday, May 2nd, 2021.
I'm Mike Adams.
Thank you for joining me here on set in the Brighteon Studios set with my superfood smoothies and everything.
Sorry, a little cluttered today because we have a lot going on.
A quick preview of what's coming up in today's show.
We've got two fascinating interviews for you.
First interview is with Chris Olson.
From Treasure Island, you know, talking about the supply chain of precious metals, gold and silver, what's happening.
More banks are collapsing, as you know.
So this is a really timely interview.
And the second interview is with Michael Yan, who has a rather horrifying update from Panama in the Darien Gap of the planned, engineered, UN-funded, US-funded organization.
Invasion of the United States of America with a replacement migrant group to replace we, the American people.
And reporting directly from the San Vicente Camp, which is a UN-funded camp in the Darien Gap, or just on the edge of the Darien Gap, this is on sort of the west side of the gap in Panama.
We'll be joined by Michael Yan, so you don't want to miss that coming right up.
Our first Brighteon University broadcast began, by the way, just four days ago on Saturday.
It's not too late to sign up and watch the other episodes that are rolling out this week.
Actually, for the next full week, we have at least another seven days of Cult of the Medics.
It's broadcasting right now on brightu.com.
It stands for Bright Town University.
Just go to brightu.com and that's the letter U as in university.
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And by the way, coming up in two Saturdays, that's almost two weeks from now, is Fluoride Poison on Tap.
So the fluoride documentary will be airing free of charge almost two weeks from today.
You can pre-register for that right now just by going to brightu.com and just sign up to watch The Cult of the Medics.
And then you'll receive an email alert when the fluoride poison on tap documentary, when that's about ready to roll.
And you'll be able to watch that looping across several days so you can catch it anytime you wish.
Again, brightu.com.
I also want to mention we've had a lot of, well, a surge in demand for many of our storable food products such as the chlorella and spirulina.
But we've also had a lot of questions from people wondering what's the difference between chlorella and spirulina?
What's the difference between powders and tablets?
So I just want to take a few minutes and answer those questions.
And thank you to the readers who have sent those in.
So the number one question, what's the difference between chlorella and spirulina?
Well, the simplest way to break it down, in my opinion, is that chlorella is more of a detox, and chlorella also has chlorella growth factor, or CGF, which is not present in spirulina.
And chlorella growth factor is more of a cellular energy kind of rejuvenation factor, Type of molecule, or actually a complex of molecules.
So, I mean, I have to be careful what words I use, but I would call that more of a rejuvenation type of molecular element in chlorella.
Whereas spirulina is known For its phycocyanins, which are biologically compatible and bioactive pigment molecules that are very, very potent, by the way, in what they're able to do in the human body.
So I think of chlorella as more detox, and I think of spirulina as more high-potency nourishment to nourish your cells and even to get to those cells that maybe need some additional support, some help.
And haven't been able to get a lot of nourishment for other reasons.
Again, there's a lot I cannot say, so do your own research on this.
But spirulina is also higher in iron.
So spirulina is favored mostly by women as well who need to replenish iron more frequently unless they're post-menopausal women.
But for men, you wouldn't want to just load up on spirulina.
You'd want to moderate that and have maybe some spirulina and some chlorella.
But I put spirulina.
Actually, I have spirulina in my smoothie here today, which is part of what makes it green.
It's not just the avocados.
It's also spirulina and some chlorella.
Because, of course, I know that chlorella helps the body naturally eliminate dioxins.
So that's another one of the natural detoxification properties of chlorella.
So that's why I drink it.
But I also put spirulina in there because of the phycocyanins and the other benefits.
I do a little bit of both, frankly.
You can get them in the number 10 cans or the bags, and people have asked also, what's the difference between powder and tablets?
There's no difference.
It's exactly the same.
The powder is simply compressed into a tablet with a natural excipient that just helps it hold its shape.
But these tablets, they dissolve very quickly in water.
So when you swallow them, they will break apart into essentially a powder in your stomach.
These aren't those kind of cheap store-bought multivitamin capsules that never get digested sometimes.
In fact, you can take a chlorella tablet, you can drop it into a glass of water, and just gently swirl it around 10 minutes later, and you'll see, oh wow, that whole thing is dissolved.
It's all now just kind of like a green cloud in the water, and that's what it does in your stomach.
So No difference between the tablets and the powder.
I use the powder because I'm blending it into my smoothies, so I don't need the tablets.
Some people like to chew the tablets as a snack.
Some people really enjoy the taste, and that's fine.
I would just say, you know, recognize that you need other things in your diet.
Don't go on a pure chlorella detox, you know, 30 days of nothing but chlorella.
That's probably not a balanced diet, and you'll get sick of it, by the way.
So just keep everything in balance.
Also, I want to mention that the spirulina, I think, goes better with chocolate.
So if you're doing chocolate smoothies of any kind with cacao, cacao powder, cacao nibs, or just chocolate bars that you throw in the blender, whatever you want to do, the spirulina goes really well with chocolate.
And in fact, that's one of the reasons why I use it, because I have this chocolate smoothie.
It's avocados, it's bananas, it's whey protein, and Flax seeds, cacao nibs, sometimes cacao powder, sometimes some Seven Treasures mushroom powder, but definitely chlorella and spirulina in the smoothie, especially now that we had the dioxin fallout from East Palestine in Ohio.
And we're going to need to do a lot more detox of our diets from here forward.
We have to use a lot more chlorophyll, a lot of plants to detox.
Now, I'm not saying just eat a plant-based diet entirely, unless that's your choice.
If you want to be vegetarian or vegan, I'm not.
But to the extent that you eat more meat or dairy products or cheese or even eggs, you're going to get more dioxin exposure because they concentrate in meat products or milk.
So that means you need to have more potent nutritional supplements or superfoods that can help you detox from the dioxins that are in the meat.
These dioxins are in quite literally at some level in almost every meat product, even free range, even organic meats because the cows eat the grass.
There's fallout of dioxins all over.
I'm not saying that it's an alarming level everywhere.
It's probably alarming in East Ohio and parts of New York and Pennsylvania.
But it's not alarming everywhere.
I'm just saying there is a trace exposure of dioxins in essentially every piece of meat from modern-day farming.
There's some level in there.
It might only be femtograms, but it's there.
It's some level.
So detox is absolutely critical.
So thank you for your questions.
And if you want to submit more questions for first-time customers, we send you out a poll.
I'd like a survey that you can take and you can fill out there.
Ask the Health Ranger whatever question you want and we'll try to answer them here on the show.
Also, if you want to find out more about Chlorella, just go to healthrangerstore.com slash chlorella.
All right, I want to go through some headlines here before we jump into those two interviews that are coming up.
But first, I want to mention...
The Great Patriot Bicot book.
This has arrived.
This is from Wayne Allen Root and also Nikki Ballou, who we interviewed here.
A fantastic book.
And this lists over 130 companies that are pro-America, pro-Liberty, Pro-human, pro-humanity, that are listed in this book.
If you want to stop supporting the radical left-wing, child-mutilating, grooming corporations, and you want to switch your support over to pro-America companies, get this book, The Great Patriot Bycott Book by Wayne Allen Root.
I've interviewed them both about this book, and it's a really fantastic compilation.
A ton of research went into that book.
So use it.
You can even buy it as a gift and hand it out to other people.
You get that book anywhere you want, even Amazon.
Next headline to go through, check this out.
Inside the Devastating Decline of Lonnie Willison...
How once stunning models spiraled into addiction and homelessness after suffering a torturous mental breakdown in the wake of bitter split from Baywatch star Jeremy Jackson.
So Lonnie or Loney, I guess it's Lonnie, was once a successful fitness model posing for a slew of magazines.
She and Jeremy married in 2012 and then she's now homeless after struggling with mental health issues and drug addiction.
You know, number one, I'm not in any way trying to mock this person.
Lonnie, she's 39 years old.
Let me show you her picture.
That's how she looked as a model.
And then here she is on the streets.
Now, sadly, suffering apparently, reportedly from mental health and addiction.
Here she is dumpster diving for food with her reportable grocery cart of belongings before and after.
I'm not here in any way to mock Lonnie.
I offer her prayers, but I think that her story, and I hope that she finds the help that she needs to overcome addiction and whatever mental health issues that she is dealing with.
But I'm here to show you this.
Show you that there's so much more of this coming across America as people are losing their jobs and their livelihoods.
The Fed's about to raise interest rates.
There's an economic collapse that is underway.
It has been engineered.
We're seeing a collapse in activity of new mortgages, you know, the real estate markets, especially commercial.
Real estate is absolutely collapsing.
We are seeing a collapse of the purchasing power of the dollar.
Fewer and fewer people are able to afford rent.
Fewer people are able to buy food for their families.
And this is why, you know, yesterday I talked about this big donation that we just made, $155,000 of food and supplements from the Health Ranger store that we donated to what was a Convoy of Hope and Harvest Time Ministries.
We made that donation because we recognize the need to help wherever we can because so many Americans are facing a situation like Lonnie here, literally dumpster diving for food.
More and more people will be unable to afford food.
We're going to see mass homelessness across America.
We're going to see more problems with substance abuse, more addiction problems.
I'm even, well, my producers are reaching out to experts in addiction.
We're going to interview a couple of experts coming up who are from really more of the medical field or the psychiatry field, but not drug-pushing psychiatrists, rather dealing with addiction.
And we've got to help people get off of these addictions and get to healthy, sustainable lifestyles.
Otherwise, we're going to have millions of Americans joining people like Lonnie here on the streets in desperate need of help.
Even formerly very successful, even very beautiful people, people who had money, people who had fame, people who had good jobs, people who had families.
They can end up dumpster diving for food.
And in fact, it's happening more and more.
Even in Austin, Texas, we had that story recently of HEB throwing out a bunch of food from the freezer section.
That they lost electricity and it thawed and so they threw it out and there were hundreds of people gathering around the dumpsters and fist fighting over the dumpster frozen food that had probably gone bad.
This is what America is going to increasingly look like under Democrat rule.
So, you know, we've got to defeat the Democrats politically.
We've got to take back our country.
We've got to create an infrastructure for opportunity.
We have to have a money system that works, that holds value, and we have to stop food inflation.
All of those things cannot be done with Democrats in power because the Democrats are causing these problems.
So we've...
We've got to get somebody in the White House, maybe somebody like Donald Trump or Robert F. Kennedy Jr., or both of them, maybe, in the White House if we're going to have a chance at having a future.
Now, the U.S., the delusional United States, seems to want to go to war with Russia in Ukraine.
And this war is going to be a total nightmare and an embarrassing failure for the United States military.
And let me start out with a story actually from Poland.
This is on Remix News.
The Polish general here quoted in this story says, we simply don't have the ammunition.
Says Poland can no longer supply Ukraine with ammunition.
Warns that Russia has the resources to continue the war.
And this was from MSNBC here.
Here's a close-up picture of this Polish general.
General, what is his name?
General Rajmund Andrzej Zak.
I'm sorry, I can't pronounce it correctly.
But that's just a lead-in to the next story from 100percentfedup.com.
New report shows shortages in weapons manufacturing and skilled labor puts the U.S. military readiness at risk.
So did you know that the primary gunpowder production facility in the United States blew up a couple of years ago?
I mean, there was a massive explosion and it's gone.
There's no gunpowder coming out of that plant.
On top of that, we don't even have the factories to build the number of artillery rounds that would be needed to engage Russia in a war.
And it's about a two-year project to even build the factories before they can start building munitions.
And even after those factories are built, and even if they can find the labor and find enough people who are willing to work, which is unlikely, and even if they can find the copper and the nickel and the gunpowder and the cotton linters and all this stuff, if they can find all the pieces and parts from all over the world, they could still only, in the United States, produce less than 100,000 artillery rounds a month according to public sources.
Where Russia is producing that, what, every...
I mean, Russia's got the industry working right now and the United States doesn't.
Shortages of weapons, manufacturing, and skilled labor.
This is now plaguing the United States of America.
So, you know, good luck.
Good luck fighting that war if you don't have munitions.
And here, by the way, I mentioned Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
earlier, switching gears.
This one from the Gateway Pundit.
RFK Jr.
mega-billionaires are using climate change to usher in totalitarian controls of the population.
And I was wondering where Robert F. Kennedy was going to kind of fall on the whole climate change issue.
So I'm very relieved and, in fact, thrilled about the fact that he gets it.
He understands.
I mean, he's not part of the climate cult at all.
He understands that climate change has been weaponized and wielded as a means of totalitarian control over the U.S. economy and small businesses and consumers.
And I agree with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., absolutely.
about the fact that pollution is real.
We do have a pollution problem.
We have a mercury problem.
We have a lead problem.
We have a microplastics problem.
We have a problem with ecological destruction.
Pesticides, herbicides, all kinds of runoff polluting the waterways and the oceans.
We've got, you know, dead zones in the oceans where U.S. rivers empty into the Gulf of Mexico or, you know, the Atlantic, for example.
So we do have a pollution problem, but the so-called climate change cultists are insane by declaring carbon dioxide to be a pollutant and they want to wield that as a weapon to achieve total control over society and shut down the economy.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has has not signed up for that.
In fact, what he says about pollution makes perfect sense to me.
So if you want to join his email list, by the way, go to kennedy24.com and just sign up there.
I think it's like name and email, kennedy24.com.
And also, we are going to be launching a website of news just covering Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And that website is actually going to be called.
It's not launched yet, but it will be rfk.news.
And we'll have very frequent coverage of Robert F. Kennedy there.
And we wish him well in the Democrat primary.
Breitbart.com now says that a poll, 60% of people say the establishment media is to blame for misinformation.
And this was a poll that was carried out with the Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Organization plus the NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, which is affiliated with the AP. So this is not just some BS poll.
In fact, most Americans get it now.
They realize that if you want the truth on any subject, you go to the independent media, such as brighttown.com here, or naturalnews.com, or you go to infowars.com, or you go to, I don't know, Zero Hedge, Gateway Pundit, revolver.news.
You go to independent media.
That's where you get the truth on everything.
If you want nothing but lies, watch the mainstream media.
And people are finally really getting that.
The majority, 60%, realize that the media deliberately push disinformation.
While, of course, they blame the independent media for misinformation, which is really what they, the corporate media, are doing.
They know they lied about COVID.
They lied about the vaccines.
They lied about the masks, the lockdowns.
They lied about the election.
They lied about J6.
They lie.
Nothing but lies from corporate media.
You want the truth?
You get it right here.
Brighteon.com, Brighteon.tv, Brighteonradio.com, and other independent outlets or other independent platforms like Rumble.com or BitChute or Gab or Truth Social or all these other independent platforms.
That's where you get the truth.
By the way, don't forget Brighteon.social as well.
Now, how disastrous is the Biden regime?
Check this out from World Net Daily, which is another excellent independent media website.
Dozens of states demand Biden quit punishing good credit homebuyers.
This was announced just, what, 10 days ago, where if you have good credit and you're buying a home, they want to charge you extra, a higher interest rate than if you have bad credit.
I mean, it's completely insane.
It's completely backwards.
And it's also another subprime mortgage collapse in the making.
If you subsidize the interest rates of homebuyers that shouldn't even qualify for those homes, what are you going to have?
You're going to have mortgage failures.
Does that ring a bell?
2008?
Anybody?
You know, Bear Stearns?
Bank of America?
Bailouts?
JP Morgan?
Bailouts?
Anybody?
Anybody?
I mean, does anybody remember what happened in 2008?
It hasn't been that long.
But again, the Biden regime wants to punish you for having good credit and reward you for having bad credit.
This is completely aligned with critical race theory and the, you know, libtard philosophies of the radical left that they just want to reward people for being, you know, problematic or getting the wrong answers.
And they want to punish people for getting the right answers.
So I'm not surprised at all.
And the other thing the left wants to do, of course, is have biological men beating women in women's sports.
And it turns out, here's another story on Breitbart, that Robert F. Kennedy Jr., again, he's in the news a lot, is opposed to biological men in women's sports.
So check this out from Breitbart.
I don't think it's fair, he says, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
voices opposition to transgenders in women's sports.
I don't think it's fair.
He says, I am against people participating in women's sports who are biologically male.
Yes.
Yes.
Thank you, Bobby, for stating this.
It's absolutely true.
And it tells me another important thing.
Not only is Robert F. Kennedy not a climate cultist, he's also not one of these transgender propagandists either.
He understands the importance of protecting women's rights and women's health and safety and...
Just women's sports in general and the very idea of women.
Motherhood, for example.
And the relationship between a woman and her child being unique to women.
No man can ever understand what it's like to give birth to a baby.
And to breastfeed that baby.
And to be the mother, because men cannot be mothers, period.
And Robert F. Kennedy gets that, but almost everybody else on the Democrat side is oblivious and does not understand that in any way whatsoever, which is just absolutely shocking.
So don't forget, folks, to check out these headlines and many more at censored.news.
I'm posting those headlines each day.
And the bold ones are also ones that I think deserve special emphasis.
And then beneath the headlines that I post, you'll find the automatic spider headlines from, you know, the Epoch Times, and here's Infowars, and Blacklisted News, and so on, Climate Depot, the COVID blog, a lot of other websites.
So, check that out to stay informed much faster than watching this program, because this is usually, you know, a day later by the time this program gets out.
The real-time headlines are there at sensor.news.
So, with that said, let's jump into our interviews today, which I think you'll find truly fascinating and highly informative.
And that's coming up right here next on Brighton Broadcast News.
Welcome to today's interview on Brighteon.com.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
And as you know, I've been talking about gold and silver and precious metals for quite some time, with now yet another bank having failed in the United States over the weekend.
First Republic Bank, it's done.
The FDIC stepped in and seized control over the bank on Monday morning and then turned around and auctioned off its good assets to JP Morgan, leaving the bad assets, whatever those may be.
We'll probably never know the full story in the hands of the FDIC, which means, guess what?
It's going to be taxpayer money that covers the losses of those assets taken on by the FDIC, which means more money printing, which means more devaluation of the fiat currency, which means there are more reasons, yet again, to look at gold and silver as a store of real value.
So joining me today is Chris Olson.
He's the CEO of the Treasure Island Coins and Precious Metals Company, which has been for quite some time a sponsor of my podcast today.
But they're not only a sponsor, Chris is also, of course, strongly tied into the intelligence and the analysis of the metals markets and what's happening, buying, selling, premiums, delivery, supply chain, all of it.
So those are the questions we're going to be asking.
Welcome, Chris, to the interview today.
It's great to have you on.
Hey, Mike.
Thanks for having me on again.
It's about time to get an update from you, so I really appreciate you taking the time to join us.
So let's step back, actually.
Let's go back in time to the Silicon Valley Bank collapse, which seems like that was almost a couple months ago or something at this point.
Three banks collapsed at that point, and then, as I understand, the entire gold and silver retail industry just got slammed with epic collapse.
Just unprecedented demand.
Is that true?
Tell us about that and tell us, have you or other companies sort of recovered from that surge?
Yeah, it was definitely unprecedented epic demand, which occurred immediately after the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank.
There were a lot of people who thought that this was going to spread systemically throughout the entire system.
And they were probably right.
It probably would have if the Fed had not stepped in with its $25 billion fund to basically bail out the banks without bailing them out.
So that was a very quick move by the Fed to deploy all that money.
And probably did prevent for a short time maybe that cascading domino of multiple bank failures which could have easily occurred if people had really sensed that they needed to pull their assets out now.
But that still did happen that people have pulled out more money out of the banks than at any other point in history, I think, prior to, well, many decades ago.
We've got a record outflow out of banks in this country and so we saw the brunt of that here where we had record demand for a good three to four weeks following March 10th when the bank went down.
Was there a change in the way people were talking to you or did you have more first-time customers than usual?
Did you have higher order dollar amounts than usual or what were the differences that you noticed?
It was really all of the above.
The phones were ringing off the hook constantly.
We had phone calls from the moment we turned them on in the morning until the moment they were over in the evening.
The phones were just packed.
Many people waiting in line.
Some people had to wait 30-40 minutes to get a call back.
And it was a lot of first-time people who had not purchased precious metals before but had been thinking about it.
And there were very many high-dollar transactions.
We're talking half a million, a million dollars.
People are moving very large amounts of money, and that size of an order became very common in those days.
Alright, yeah, thanks for switching out your headphones there, your microphone, Chris.
This will be better.
Okay, so as you were just saying, you saw much higher, people purchasing higher amounts than usual.
Was there a sense of, I don't know, more heightened concern in people's minds?
Or was it very rational to just realize, hey, the banks just can't be trusted anymore?
What were those conversations like?
I'm curious.
Well, it was a combination of all of the above.
I think people were panicking and probably had very good reason to be concerned at that point, given that the financial system is incredibly fragile at this time.
And there were a large number of people that were coming out for the first time.
They'd been thinking about buying precious metals for quite some time, but this was kind of the catalyst that they needed to get started and go ahead and make the decision.
The price action has been very strong.
It seems like the floor for the price of gold and silver has really raised, and so we don't see the types of pullbacks that people have been accustomed to, and so people have decided that now is a good time as any.
The ceiling is also much higher for gold and silver, given the global demand for the precious metals.
So just given the instability, I think all of those things were a perfect storm at that particular time.
Lots of new customers, very large transactions.
And from that point until now, we had over 15,000 transactions, individual trades, that we've actually been processing since March 10th.
How do you even keep up with that?
I mean, that's crazy.
It's not easy.
It's not easy.
We've got very good systems here to automate and consolidate and bring all of the order information through to our shipping department.
We've increased the number of people in our shipping department by about 30%, and that was after increasing that number by about 50% a couple years ago.
So we keep expanding.
We're hiring new people all the time and working overtime.
We've got guys staying late.
We're working weekends.
It's been difficult, but we know that a moment like this comes only once, and so we've got to give it our best.
Thankfully, it has slowed down.
It's begun to taper down over the last three weeks.
The massive demand that we were experiencing shortly after March 10th has subsided for now, so we're getting a good chance to catch a breather.
When the next one comes, we'll be ready.
We'll be that much more ready for it, and we'll be able to move much more quickly.
So let's back up even more.
Before the Silicon Valley Bank collapsed, as I understand it, there was almost really a flood of silver inventory in particular among silver retailers, right?
Because many companies, including yours, had placed a lot of wholesale orders last year with the mints around the world.
And because of the delays, you had to sort of pre-commit to those.
And then maybe you can correct the time frame, but between Christmas and Christmas, You know, mid-March, wasn't there kind of a glut of silver inventory and premiums collapsed?
And then Silicon Valley Bank hit and the whole thing just whiplashed from that point.
Everything reversed.
Is that right?
That's exactly right.
Yeah, the amount of inventory that we have in stock drew down significantly.
We're probably at about 30% of the levels that we were prior to the Silicon Valley collapse.
Interestingly, it looks like the network and the infrastructure within the United States between the various mints that we're working with, people are improving, so we're able to keep that supply moving at a quicker pace.
We're able to reload our supply faster, but it did get drawn down very quickly.
Any sustained amount of time of that kind of demand is going to put massive strain on the entire system, and premiums did go back up.
Not to the levels that they were summer of last year, not yet, but just what happened with Silicon Valley Bank was enough to put premiums throughout the entire industry up significantly, and that still has not changed.
Well, and this brings up a really critical point about the supply chain and how much demand that your company can handle.
I mean, the whole industry, the whole retail metals industry, it's kind of a narrow door.
There's only a certain number of people that can fit through that door at any one time.
And the Silicon Valley Bank collapse, I think, kind of stressed that.
I remember hearing, I had a quote complaint from one person.
It was like, oh, it's going to be three weeks before I get my silver.
And we were like, well, did they tell you it's going to be three weeks?
And they said, yeah, we just don't like that it's going to be three weeks.
Well, try being someone who doesn't even know about this and the banks are collapsing.
And then if you're late to the game, it's not going to be three weeks.
It's going to be never.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And we try to be very transparent and upfront about the delivery delays on all of our products.
And Like I have said before, and you just alluded to now, there's only so much minted product that is available at any one time.
So if you get several hundred million dollars worth of orders pushed through the entire bullion industry in the United States within a week or two, that really starts to put a lot of pressure on the available inventories because those inventories are not infinite.
Right.
And so once that inventory drawdown occurs, that's when premiums start going up.
You start seeing the delays.
And it's at that point where you don't have as much discretion in terms of what you're going to get.
You're just looking for whatever's going to be available.
And at that point, you're looking instead of at the nice one ounce coins that most people prefer, you're looking into a hundred ounce or even thousand ounce silver bars, for example, if you want to get silver.
Silver is always the first thing to take the big hit on inventory being drawn down.
Gold is a lot easier to move.
It's easier to produce and move around.
Silver takes time and energy to produce it and move it.
Yeah, in fact, I want to ask you about mining, but first, let me just lay out a couple of things.
For those of you who want to get gold and silver, the web address to go to is metalswithmike.com.
That will forward you to the Treasure Island website.
In full transparency, I do want to say that your company, Chris, is a regular sponsor of my podcast, but you are not paying for this interview.
This is not a sponsored interview.
I actually just contacted you last minute for an analysis of what's going on in the market, but that you do sponsor us for the podcast on a regular basis, but you don't pay us a commission on sales.
So it's a fixed fee.
So we are not compensated based on commissions.
I just want everybody to know that.
Yeah, go ahead.
That's absolutely correct.
Yeah, I mean, there are some players out there that I think charge too much and then they pay a commission out to the influencer who promoted them and, you know, whatever.
But I just don't operate that way.
But what I want to ask you about the supply.
It seems like silver mining is, of course, very slow to ramp up.
When there's more demand, very slow, you know, the mining sector is slow to move up or down.
And also, as I understand it, and this is part of my question to you, Chris, the mining of silver is a very large percentage of silver that's mined is actually a byproduct of other mining, other minerals that are being mined, like, I don't know, you know, copper or what have you, or aluminum.
So...
The silver mining industry is not really able to or even wanting to respond as quickly to the demand as people might expect.
It's not like they can just make more silver instantly.
It doesn't work that way, correct?
Yeah, that's absolutely correct.
And the amount of silver that's coming out of the ground, it just continues to diminish in terms of the ratios of, say, silver to gold that's actually available.
So The existing supply above ground of silver is not sufficient to withstand too long of sustained demand.
I don't have the exact numbers in front of me.
But when you look at the numbers, it's not very impressive in terms of what people could actually invest in and purchase right now if everybody was looking to buy it all at the same time.
So you would see the price moving up very quickly.
And miners and producers and recyclers and other people that hold metal, they would have to respond to that.
And so if the price did move up high enough, fast enough, you might have people that are willing to take profits at that time.
And that would kind of become the supply source for the physical bullion as other people are selling.
It's not very quick to come out of the ground and become a useful product that you can purchase right away.
So inventories are not sufficient to meet a sustained demand.
Yes, absolutely.
And then we have the fact that many nations and central banks around the world are now ramping up, well, they've been ramping up their purchases of gold.
Recently, Venezuela, I believe, announced that they're using gold to try to shore up their currency, and they're going to need, I think it was $100 million in gold, which actually sounds low, but...
I think that's what it was, $100 million in gold just to shore up their currency and try to stop hyperinflation.
I don't think that's going to be enough, but it's an indication that as fiat currencies get weaker and weaker or devalued across the world, isn't it true that more nations are wanting to increase their central bank purchases of gold in order to make sure their currencies are defended against currency speculators, for example?
That's absolutely the case, Mike.
That's the biggest story that's happening right now with metals.
And it's a consequence of the United States weaponizing its currency because that doesn't come without a cost.
And right now, I think the figure I read was that 30% of all countries right now face sanctions from the US, the EU, Japan, the UK, etc.
That's a weaponization of the currency system.
And so...
Central banks are looking at ways to protect themselves from that, and so what do we see?
We see that central banks are buying more tons of gold now than at any time since the data begins, which is in 1950 sometime.
Right now, 33% of monthly global demand for gold comes from central banks.
Wow.
That's huge.
Nine of the top ten are in the developing world, if you include Russia and China, Russia, India, and China.
And these countries are all in talks with Brazil, South Africa, et cetera, about creating a multi-factorial currency system basically to trade with one another in their own currencies.
And they're looking to use gold as the backstop to provide the value to their currency.
So it's all about energy.
It's all about collateral.
It's all about commodities.
And the fiat currency game is coming to an end because not only was it implicitly unfair, it's now become a national security risk.
And so that's why we see central banks, they're the major buyer in the gold market right now.
But isn't that fascinating that central banks are buying gold like mad?
China's central bank, I think, in the fourth quarter of last year purchased something like 300...
Tons of gold or something in that range.
But at the same time, the governments of the world are telling people that gold is an ancient, useless relic.
But then all their top people are stacking gold, and all their banks are stacking gold, and their central banks are stacking gold.
And it's like, okay, we don't believe you when you say that gold is an ancient relic.
Gold has survived the collapse of every civilization in known human history, and it still has value today.
So what are your thoughts on that?
They're telling us one thing, but then they're doing exactly the opposite.
They are buying gold like crazy.
It depends on what country you're looking at.
In the West, you see that the banks and the governments have typically tried to paint a picture of gold being a barbarous relic, but actually, I think the mainstream media and some of the banks are starting to come around to the idea of gold.
I think you're going to see in the mainstream media even more favorable coverage of gold here over the coming months because it's gotten to a point where it just can't be denied anymore.
These media institutions rely on clicks.
They want people reading their stories.
It's becoming an open secret.
We're in a crisis right now that is not like anything that we've seen since Nixon took us off the gold standard.
That's creating a sea change in everything.
Take Russia, for example.
They scrapped their 20% value-add tax on gold, and they also scrapped the 13% income tax on profits for gold as well.
So they are incentivizing their people to purchase as much gold as they possibly can, and Russian gold miners have boosted their output by about 27% year-on-year as of this past March, according to the latest data out of Russia.
Right.
So, you know, it depends on your government and it depends on your media, but I think the story is going to change very quickly on gold, but it's not going to be good for countries or for nations that are not running fiscally sound budgets or that don't have good gold reserves to back up their currencies.
Yeah, exactly.
And I've talked about gold and silver as sort of hitting the pause button on your assets, just freezing the value.
Because I don't like to talk about gold and silver as a speculative investment, because the price manipulations are pretty intense out there.
But I'm talking about just freezing the assets that you have now, even though the dollar is losing, by my estimate, about 2% per month in its purchasing capability.
Gold is not.
Gold is just holding that value.
But one question that I have for you on this, and this is a question that people have asked me, is, well, how liquid is it?
So if they have, let's say, one-ounce gold coins, and they want to turn those into dollars, how much friction is there in that?
Can they ship them back to you, or can they sell them locally?
And if they do ship them back to you, how can they ship them safely in a guaranteed way so that if they're lost or stolen in shipment, they're still covered?
How do you answer those questions?
In terms of the friction side of things, there's always going to be some friction when it comes to bullion coins and bars because you're essentially taking delivery of a finished product and all of that takes time.
It takes energy and it takes time and so there's always going to be friction when you're moving it around but that's the most secure way for people to own their assets to hold and to control either in a depository that you have that you can trust or in your own hands the physical asset but that always comes with friction because to move it around to sell it back That takes energy.
Conversely, you could have something like an ETF. ETF, you don't actually own the gold.
You get some exposure to the gold price.
But there's very little friction, very little cost because you're just trading electronically on paper.
So that's the big difference is that you're going to pay higher prices in terms of the friction just to get the physical material.
But the benefits that come with it Most people think that they're worth it, that the benefits are there.
The nice thing about precious metal coins and bars is that they're liquid pretty much anywhere.
Anyone that has gold and silver, if you're in a city that has 100,000 people or more, you're going to find at least one bullion shop that's willing to give you cash on the spot.
They probably won't pay you as much as we would pay you, And there's plenty of people that will compete for your business to buy whatever gold or silver you might want to sell.
But the nice thing is, you can sell it anywhere in the country on a moment's notice.
That being said, we're always buying anything we sell, we buy.
And we can help get it back to us as well.
well.
So we do have a program where we do offer fully insured UPS shipping labels to help people move the metals back up to us here in Fargo.
So especially on larger deals, that's something that people definitely take advantage of frequently because we do have a very competitive bid and we will help get it back to us and pay you out very quickly.
Okay.
So just to confirm that, because, you know, I'm a customer of yours.
I I've bought metals from you, but I've never shipped them back.
I mean, I've never sold, actually, I've never sold any metal that I've ever owned, ever.
So that's why I'm not familiar with this process.
But if I wanted to sell them back to you, or let's say some other customer has, I don't know, 50 gold coins, so it's worth, you know, over 100 grand.
And they call you and you would give them a printable UPS shipping label and then instructions on how to package it up and they drop it off at a UPS store?
Is that how that works?
Well, pretty close.
We provide the label.
We provide the instructions.
You have to follow it very carefully because it's an insurance contract, so you have to do everything right.
And then you actually take it into a UPS customer center, which is not the same as a UPS store.
It's like a hub.
You take it to the hub, they sign off on it, you have that signature and now that package is insured up to $150,000.
I see.
Okay.
And the packing, I would imagine, has to have certain types of tape and certain thickness of the box and things like that.
Yeah, and we spell that out in the paperwork that you agree to follow those terms, and it spells it out in great detail how you need to pack it.
Okay.
Did I ever tell you the true story of how I went onto one of your competitors' website and I bought one gold coin.
They would only ship it through the United States Postal Service.
So it was a USPS shipment and When that was, quote, delivered to me, it was signed, my name was signed by the mail carrier, and the coin vanished.
Oh, my.
And it turns out the mail carrier had stolen that coin.
I kid you not.
I still have that carrier's signature on paper.
I saved it.
And I had to go into the post office and say, this signature's not mine.
Who the heck signed for this, and where is my gold?
Right.
And then they said, oh, we found it.
We found it.
It was a couple of days later.
They found it and then gave it to me.
That happened.
Wow.
Yeah, that's incredible.
And we only ship USPS if it's a PO box and our customer specifically requires that we ship by postal service or if it's a lower value shipment, say like less than $700, I believe is the number that we use.
But we guarantee every shipment that we send out.
So if that had been our shipment and the carrier had done that to you and you weren't able to recover it, we would provide you the replacement.
We guarantee that.
Yeah, that was a really interesting experience on my part because I think this is valuable to share with the customers, the listeners here, because I called the original retailer, again, one of your competitors, because I do like to spot check everybody in the industry, and I called them and I told them what happened and they said, great, all you have to do is go fill out a police report.
And then take this police report and then we'll process it that way and then we'll refund you.
But I ended up going to the post office and saying, look, I'm going to fill out a police report if you don't give me my gold.
And that's when they, quote, found it.
Yeah, and that's the standard requirement for all the insurance policies is that a police report does have to get filed.
Otherwise, you could have people just making stuff up all the time.
So that's one of those necessary steps.
But yeah, I'm glad you got the coin.
But that type of thing does happen.
There is fraud out there.
There are bad drivers.
And that's why we carry a very expensive insurance policy.
And we've never failed to deliver a single order.
We've had stuff go missing like that and it's a problem that we deal with.
It's part of the job.
I will say that UPS, I think you use UPS most of the time.
UPS has been very reliable.
And we've never had any issues with UPS delivering packages like that.
So I guess that was just a USPS local rural carrier situation, whatever.
But moving on, I just thought I would share that story with you.
Insurance is critical to have.
So I guess the bottom line, folks, is you can buy gold, you can hold on to it physically.
It's near liquid in the sense that you can send it back and And then what, Chris?
Once you receive the gold, do you issue a wire, a bank wire?
It depends on how you want to be paid and the size of the transaction.
Typically, we're going to pay out by a check, but we can do direct credit to the account through ACH, or we can send a wire.
There are different fees associated with that, so there's like a nominal fee for a wire fee.
But if it's a big deal and you want to get the money instantly, That's the best way to do it.
We send out wires all the time and we're happy to do it.
Okay.
And we process it very quickly.
Now, is there then, for fraud protection, you know, for you to protect your company from fraud, is there some kind of, like, gold purity testing requirement for customers maybe that you haven't worked with before that say, hey, I have these gold bars that maybe vanished from the airport in Canada a couple weeks ago, or whatever?
Yeah, that was quite a story.
Wow.
Yeah.
So, like, how do you...
Is there a test that's required?
Yep.
So...
We have many decades of experience in our shipping in our vaulting department, and basically every product gets looked at by at least three different people who check it in, look at it, and if something looks fishy, we have multiple ways to test it.
We have conductivity testing, specific gravity testing, x-ray spectrometry testing, and also ultrasound, which is what we use on some larger bars.
Like 100-ounce bars.
And, you know, the big scams are usually things that target us and never the customer.
You know, like a 1-ounce coin is very hard to counterfeit.
And that's one of the reasons that sovereign-minted coins are so popular because, you know, if you're a Chinese counterfeiting operation, you might be happy to counterfeit like a 10-ounce gold bar.
But you're not even going to touch like a one ounce gold eagle because number one, you're going to have the secret service looking for you because you're counterfeiting what's officially US currency.
But number two, the coin is very difficult to create a replica that actually looks legitimate.
It's a very intricate design.
And then the metal that you choose is never going to look right anyway.
It's going to be too big.
It's going to weigh too little.
So we're very accustomed to exactly what the real thing looks like.
We deal with it so much.
But the real problem is somebody trying to target us with like a drilled and filled bar.
Like the old scam is take a kilo bar, drill it, fill it with tungsten, patch the end with gold.
And now you send somebody a bar that's five ounces short.
but it looks like nothing's happened to it.
So for that type of thing, we're going to do ultrasound testing and other specific gravity analysis.
Oh, yeah.
Or we're just going to chop it in half and melt it, which is quite often what happens with the larger kilo bars.
Yeah, that's interesting.
So an ultrasound test would show, I guess, the differences in the density as the two metals change as you're sweeping it over the bar.
So you would see that instantly.
You see a little cavity in there where suddenly you've got an object inside the bar which is no longer uniform.
Right, right.
Man, that's fascinating.
Well, it's shocking what people will do to try to rip off...
You know, anybody these days.
I mean, people are out there counterfeiting currency, of course.
I mean, that's been going on since the beginning of currency.
And, like, that's even crazy because why would you counterfeit something that's going to go to zero anyway is my question because the currency is not looking too good right now, but whatever.
It's all counterfeit.
Yeah, it's all counterfeit.
Good point.
Okay, so what else do people need to know about anticipating where you think things are headed in terms of the supply?
Not the price, because I don't like to talk about speculation, but supply, because I think these bank failures are going to continue this year.
Yeah, I'd say it's very likely that we're going to continue to see stress on our financial system and We're just waiting for the next shoe to drop.
We had COVID. We had Ukraine.
We have the weaponization of the financial system.
We have a recession that's coming in.
You've got Fed interest rate hikes.
You've got banks failing.
So I think it's really just a matter of time.
I don't think it's clear skies or smooth sailing from here on into the future.
That's definitely out of the picture right now.
So in moments of calm, like we're kind of walking into right now, It's a good time to get in while supplies are good and while the phones are not ringing off the hook and we can actually fulfill orders in faster than three weeks.
I think it's going to be a continued game of us just trying to keep up.
There's lots of stress in the market and when the next big event happens, It's going to be all hands on deck for us, and premiums will be going up, and supply will be getting crunched, and lead times will extend weeks into the future.
Yeah, if not months at some point, depending on how much demand there is.
And that wouldn't be unique to you.
I mean, that would be across the board.
All the retailers would be crunched at the same time.
Yeah, and that becomes a real problem once we get out to months.
We have a policy of not selling out past four weeks.
So we need to find product that we can get into your hands within at least that time.
And so if it gets to that point, we're looking at stuff you don't – maybe you didn't want to buy a 1,000-ounce bar, but now that's your only option.
You've got to take a 70-pound brick of silver home with you.
So avoiding that is also a good reason to buy it while things look good.
Yeah, if you throw those bricks in your pockets, big silver blocks, someone will notice and it will slow you down if you're fleeing a collapsing city, by the way.
Just as a cartoonish side note, did you hear about the legislators in Texas looking to pass a law that would be a gold and silver-backed digital currency run by the state of Texas and redeemable, actually, for gold in the Texas depository?
Which is located in Central Texas, by the way.
Did you hear about this?
What are your thoughts about that?
Yeah, I've heard about it.
It's a good idea.
It would definitely have some major growing pains in terms of the liquidity of the currency.
But I think growing pains like that would be good to go through.
This is definitely something that needs to be done.
I think states are going to be the last line of defense for the citizens of this country because if we do have a collapsing dollar, if we do have some kind of a digital currency that they want to use to replace the U.S. dollar with, that just means more loss of freedom, more control over your life.
And, you know, you take a look at the state of North Dakota.
We have a state owned bank in this state, which was created in the early 1900s specifically to give the people a better deal in terms of their commodity trading that they were engaged in the farmers here in North Dakota.
They created the Bank of North Dakota.
So I and in the Constitution itself, it says that no state will emit any type of money except that that's minted of gold and silver.
So I think that's one of the primary duties of the states to protect their citizens and provide for a medium of exchange that can that can sustain the act as a store of value at the same time as being a medium of exchange.
So I'm very excited to see that bill, and I look forward to following where it goes.
Yeah, me too.
Because I see as the national currency, the dollar, of course, you know, I believe it's going to collapse.
It's going to go to zero at some point, like all fiat currencies seem to go eventually.
But the fact that states like Texas and other states, even Wyoming, for example, are recognizing gold, and the fact that Texas is...
Essentially preparing to have its own state-based currency when the dollar collapses.
To me, that's a sense of relief because I still want to be able to conduct business, even if it's just in the state of Texas.
But I need to be able to buy, sell, and transact.
And frankly, for me to take orders from somebody somewhere else, I can't wait for them to ship me one-sixteenth of an ounce of gold or whatever.
If I could have a gold-backed digital currency, I would take that and ship the product to them, and then I could take that digital receipt, and I could drive to the vault and say, give me gold, and they would do it.
I think that's awesome.
Yep, I agree, and that's the idea.
And that's what a lot of the central banks around the world that I was discussing, these nine out of 10 developing nations in that top 10 list of banks that are buying gold, they are setting up exactly that type of a format.
There's a lot of talk about central bank digital currencies, and there's a couple different types of what those digital currencies look like.
But what's happening with the global south and the BRICS nations, Russia and India and China, et cetera, they're trying to create a digital currency system which will enable them to get rid of SWIFT, to get out of the Western financial infrastructure, the plumbing, and create their own plumbing to get out of the Western financial infrastructure, the plumbing, and create their own plumbing where they have a double or triple authenticated distributed ledger system between them where they can see who has what gold and who their own plumbing where they have a double or triple authenticated distributed ledger system between them where they can see who has what gold and who owes what currency to who.
And this provides them with exactly the same thing that you're talking about, the ability to have a store of value, a medium of exchange with a counterparty that you trust, where you know that the gold is there.
And if you want to take delivery of it, you send back your digital units and you take delivery of that physical gold.
And now you're just crediting a different a different vault in a different country.
Right.
And and that's the system that they're attempting to set up right now.
And so to have states in the United States that could start to model that exact same idea, I think it's a necessity because they're doing it in preparation of something that's coming.
There's a big change coming.
So we need to be doing the same thing here in the United States.
Let me plug your website here for you.
MetalswithMike.com takes you straight to Treasure Island Coins and Precious Metals here.
And the thing I love about your website is you offer real-time pricing.
You can go here to the U.S. Mint, for example.
You can look at gold coins.
Now, folks, the prices you see obviously are going to change in real-time because this was...
Recorded in advance.
But let's say you want to look at Royal Canadian Mint Silver Coins.
Well, you can bring that up and get real-time prices.
And then you can also contact them to ask questions or talk about silver IRAs or things like that.
So again, metalswithmike.com gets you there and then you can check all these things out for yourself.
But Chris, back to the point that you were just making, I think that I think we're looking at the failure of a lot of, especially Western currencies, including the Euro.
I think the Euro's done.
I mean, not tomorrow, but it's on its way out.
I think the yen is on its way out.
I think the dollar's on its way out.
And it seems to me that globally, any nation that wants a functioning currency, whether they're West or East or whoever, is going to have to have it backed by gold because the trust factor is just not there anymore.
People aren't just going to blindly trust paper currency any longer, is my opinion.
Yeah, and it's the store of value problem has been the problem since 1971 when we got taken off the gold standard, but there was still confidence in the United States and in the rule of law.
So you had this kind of Pax Americana that held the financial system together.
Every country didn't dump the dollar for gold in 1971.
The price of gold floated up and down, so they just agreed to debase their currencies against one another over time.
But everything changed under Biden when he pushed the button to implement the nuclear option against Russia and say that we can cut you off from SWIFT, we can seize your Forex reserves, and at that point, it's no longer a matter of is it a store of value or not, or how is my currency being debased, but it's outright theft.
So now you've got counterparty risk, which has completely upended this entire thing.
So over the next 10 years, it's going to be a consistent strategy of de-dollarization as the various nations decide we're going to do business in our own currencies.
We're going to settle in gold.
We're going to do real business.
And we can't trust any one central counterparty of a global reserve currency.
It's not going to work anymore.
Yeah, I think you nailed it right there.
And I think history will look back and see that moment as the The most insane, irrational, and destructive decision ever made in American history.
Maybe by design.
Maybe by design.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, this has just evaporated global trust in the dollar.
And since then, as you just said, Chris, we've seen Russia, India, Turkey, Iran, China, Brazil...
Even many South American countries doing deals to clear transactions directly with China and yuan or directly with Russia and rubles and so on.
The dollar is like literally the faith in the dollar is collapsing at a rapid pace around the world.
There's no question about that.
And I don't know how we could ever get it back.
I don't think it comes back.
Well, yeah.
And if it does, it's going to be under a set of new rules.
And we're not going to be the ones who decide what those rules are.
I think those rules are being decided right now.
I think it's going to be a slow burn, but it's going to be an inevitable burn.
And it's not going to happen overnight or tomorrow, but we are going to see bank collapses.
We're going to see recessions and runs on the market.
We're going to see the rest of the world continue to buy gold and silver.
That's going to keep the price at a floor.
It's going to raise the ceiling.
And here's an interesting statistic that I was just reading before this interview, that number of countries with central banks that are looking to launch their own digital currency has tripled since 2020.
More than 110 central banks representing over 95% of the world's GDP.
And when I talk about the digital currency, it's not about so much a control network for controlling the currency of the people.
They could keep the same paper currency, but for them to do settlements bilaterally with other counterparties, that that's the infrastructure and the technology that they use to say that, yeah, this transfer actually happened so that they can have plumbing that operates outside of of the SWIFT system.
Yeah, that's a really good point.
The SWIFT system actually is kind of an old school digital currency interbank clearinghouse system.
Right.
I mean, it's really a messaging system.
Exactly.
Right.
It's a central ledger.
Yeah, you just nailed it.
And that ledger says that, okay, this amount is deducted from this bank and this amount is credited to that bank.
And that consists of a transfer.
I mean, that's what a transfer is.
It's actually two entries in the ledger.
And that ledger had one authority, one control, which was the SWIFT system.
And then when Biden weaponized that system, well, guess what?
It no longer became a...
I mean, the reserve currency status was gone.
Shattered.
Digital transactions will be pursued by these nations around the world first between each other.
And in fact, that's already happening.
I mean, China's already clearing some trades digitally with other countries.
And then the next step is for them to push central bank digital currencies onto their own domestic populations.
That's where they're going to meet a ton of resistance.
Right.
Exactly.
But the nice thing is that if gold and its corollary silver play the main component within those systems, then you can expect that that's going to be a medium of exchange that you can continue to deal in because ultimately it's about settlement. then you can expect that that's going to be a These currencies represent a claim on some kind of a good or service.
And so if these digital currencies are being backed by gold or oil or soybeans or whatever, the commodities are the real thing.
That's where the real activity is happening.
The digital currencies are just a means to internationalize that trade across borders.
So I think it's a good thing for people, I think.
And I'm hopeful that we can maintain some kind of a control where a central bank digital currency is not the primary means of us actually settling transactions and that we have no other alternatives because that's a real problem, even if it's a gold-backed central bank digital currency.
At that point, what's the point if it's backed by gold if you can't ever transact in something other than that digital currency?
Well, right.
And I guess this is the last question because we're going to wrap this up.
But personally, if they roll out a central bank digital currency, which is a surveillance system, I would personally rather use a cryptocurrency than a CBDC, even though the cryptocurrency might not be backed by anything.
But I just want to do a transaction and get out.
Like get in, transfer, buy, sell, collect, whatever, and then get back out of it.
I would trust a decentralized cryptocurrency system more than a centralized bank at that point, and I think a lot of people are thinking the same way.
Yeah, I would agree.
Or you could use the original cryptocurrency, which is gold.
Yeah, but I mean, I'm talking about long-distance transactions, fast overseas transactions, things like that.
But yeah, if I can meet somebody in person or I'm at a farmer's market, I'd rather just buy in gold or silver.
You know, for bread, beef bones for my dogs, seeds, whatever, ammunition.
Here, have silver, man.
Let's do it that way.
That's more reason to build local, to buy local, to do everything locally because you can maintain some level of sovereignty and freedom if you're not forced to use these long-distance settlement mechanisms or digital currencies.
We need to be more self-reliant as communities.
Completely agree.
And I guarantee if you go to almost any local farmer's market and you start offering to buy in silver, you're going to get a lot of people saying, heck yes, do you have more silver?
Because we have more beef in the freezer in the back and it's free-range grass-fed.
Okay.
Good habits to get into.
Definitely.
And it's good to kind of sort that out in advance so you know who's going to take metal coin.
So, Chris, this has been really fascinating and informative.
Anything else that you want to mention here as we wrap this up?
You know, I think we covered all the main points.
I would just say that, yeah, right now we've been getting caught up with that massive influx of orders that came after the Silicon Valley bank failure.
So we're getting to a point where we're caught up.
It's been tough, but we're waiting for the next shoe to drop.
So I'd say it's a good time to get in before that happens.
Who knows what's going to happen between then and now or what that's going to look like, but we'll be ready for it when it comes.
That sounds perfect.
And thank you, Chris, for taking care of our audience, our listeners.
They have a very positive experience with you.
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Okay, welcome.
This is Brighteon.com and we are once again joined by Michael Yan, who of course has been doing just bombshell reporting from the Darien Gap in Panama, looking at the UN-funded and US-funded migrant camps, which are functioning as staging areas for a migrant invasion and occupation of the United States.
Michael, it's good to be able to connect with you again.
Let's start out.
Can you tell us where you are right now?
Right now, I'm in Darien Province, right on the edge of the Darien Gap in Panama.
And you just missed about 13 giant buses leaving just minutes ago, heading up Highway 1.
That's Highway 1 behind me, right there.
And at any time, you might see Venezuelans coming up, demanding money, as they regularly do.
This highway is often filled with migrants, including Chinese, at nighttime.
In fact, Chinese have been staying in this hotel that I'm at, Chinese migrants.
The camp is 200 or 300 meters away, San Vicente Camp, which I sent you this morning, drone footage.
Rainy season just started again.
There is a lot of malaria going around already.
In fact, the U.S. government has sent a medical team down here.
Last week, they're looking into what all spreading around here.
Out of six people on the two teams that I just recently had here, all six are now showing symptoms of something.
Including me, I'm over it now.
You might hear slightly in my voice.
I do.
But a couple of people were bedridden.
Clearly, definitely malaria is going around in a big way.
The Indians tell me that.
Centerfront just told me that, which is like their border patrol.
And the doctors will tell you that as well.
But there's also other things going around like dengue.
And obviously tuberculosis is walking around at this highway.
Wow.
Wow, okay.
But you have access to everything you need there, like ivermectin and artemisinin and things like that?
Yeah, and I carry that stuff everywhere.
I carry ivermectin like a fireman carries a fire extinguisher.
The moment I see symptoms, I just nail it.
Hydroxychloroquine and the zinc and all that.
It's hard to...
I watch your show.
You know, you tell people, as soon as you get symptoms, jump on it.
Jump on it beforehand.
Actually, it's even better.
But most people still don't quite get that, that you don't wait until you're bedridden to start on the ivermectin.
Yeah, earlier is better.
They're like, I'll just take 12 milligrams.
It's like, 12 milligrams?
You weigh 230 pounds, man.
Jump on it now.
And 12 milligrams ain't enough, man.
Do your calculations.
Yeah, for sure.
No, I take ivermectin even if I'm going to go speak somewhere.
I take it before I even go.
I just take it prophylactically.
Yeah, that's wise.
Since we last spoke, okay, so a lot has happened.
You did this bombshell back-to-back two days of tours of the San Vicente camp, and what was the other one?
Was it Lojas Blancas?
Was that the camp?
Las Blancas.
I'm beside San Vicente right now, actually.
Okay, okay.
And so, go ahead, sir.
Well, so then the very next day, after this bombshell exposure, which, by the way, your video and what we did together there, it was tweeted out by General Flynn and just a lot of high-level people were sharing it all over Twitter.
Got a ton of attention.
The very next day, Joe Biden and Anthony Blinken announced that Their plan to close the camps.
Now, you expressed to me privately, you thought that that would not happen.
Have you seen any activity whatsoever that would indicate these camps are going to be closed?
I'm getting some mixed signals.
I was just at San Vicente.
Again, it's like 200 or 300 meters from right here, so I'm right beside the camp.
In fact, these guys, well, they don't work at the camp.
So anyway, the Senate front told me today, as have others in the Panamanian government, it does not look like the camps are closing.
However, I'm getting some other signals that there may be within the United States government, there's talk about it, right?
However, we also know that The Secretary of Homeland Security, Mayorkas, and others are talking about clearing people straight through Colombia and Guatemala.
In other words, they fly straight to the United States.
We saw former Presidents Bush and Obama and Clinton all together talking about teaming up with American Express and others to send people directly into American cities, which they're already doing anyway, by the way.
They're just talking about increasing that.
And we see right now, Title 42 looks like it's about to drop.
And I'm telling you, right now, we effectively have no border.
We already know that.
We're being completely invaded.
And actually, the same thing here in Panama.
The Panamanians are extremely upset.
The Panamanian government has told me that about 11% of the population, 11%, 1-1%, The population of Panama now has actually been new Venezuelans, right?
Wow.
And so, and constantly, they're bugging me here for money, the Venezuelans.
And it's really angering the Embra Indians, the Wunan Indians, the Kuna Indians, and the Panamanians.
For instance, last time I was here, about, I don't know, 12 days ago, there were six Panamanian Elders meeting at the next table over here.
They're very angry and they were talking about trying to close down these camps.
So we've got everybody wants to close these camps down except for the For the US government and the World Economic Forum and the Chinese Communist Party which are using them as invasion camps.
The same is happening over in Europe.
Well that's what I want to ask you was about the Chinese next because you have told me privately you sent me some videos of a lot of Chinese nationals moving through this area and even receiving money on the streets there.
Lots of things happening that are very concerning because this is Panamanian.
These camps aren't just about South Americans or Central Americans moving through somehow Chinese nationals, which could be CCP operatives.
I believe that you've probably seen some CCP operatives.
Have you not?
No, clearly.
I mean, the signs and symptoms are obvious.
In fact, there's about 40 Chinese in this camp beside me right now.
That was about an hour and a half ago.
That number by now will have changed.
Some will have just taken off in the buses and others will be adding in.
So they're constantly, it's coming and going constantly.
So, I mean, one of the big questions in my mind was, how do Chinese even get there in the first place?
Now, you sent me this video the other day that showed, it was a Chinese-language video that was talking about how to go from city to city.
You take a boat here, you take a horse, you walk this piece, and then you get on a 4x4 and so on.
It was basically a how-to guide of how to move through these camps and cross the border illegally into the United States.
But how are they getting to Panama in the first place?
Or Ecuador was in that video as well.
Yeah, an interesting thing about the Chinese is they're mysteriously getting new passports and exit visas from China, and they're able to get from China to Quito, Ecuador, right?
So they go to Quito, Ecuador mostly.
Actually, some are actually bypassing that, and they go straight up to Mexico.
They'll get tourist visas in Mexico if they've got enough money to do a package tour at one of the package tour places in Mexico, for instance, on Yucatan Peninsula.
Most of them that are coming through here, though, that come through Darien Gap, they go to Quito, Ecuador first.
Then they jump on buses and they go up to Nicocle, Colombia, which I've done before.
I haven't taken the bus, but I've gone up to Nicocle.
And then you jump on a boat and you go to Capargana, Colombia.
And then from there, they take the Chinese.
They have more money.
So then they take another boat and then they go around to these India areas over in Panama.
And they'll go through a place called – they'll go through one called Anachucana, another called Amarillo, and another one called Quereto.
And they'll just walk through the jungle for a couple of days through the Darien Gap, the easier route.
And then they'll come out at a village called Canmenbrio, which I've been to maybe a dozen times.
And then they'll come out right here on this highway right behind me.
And they go to this camp and then they get on a bus and they head right up the highway to – The buses you just missed, they're on the way to Costa Rica right now.
And then later tonight, there'll be a bunch more buses leave here as well, because you can see the sun is still up.
But later tonight, they'll do it again.
So, okay, so many questions, but what I don't understand is how can these people carry money with them without being robbed and losing all their money?
And because they have to pay a bus fare in order to take that bus, and they have to pay along the way to get on the riverboat or to take the horses or the 4x4s or what have you, aren't they just routinely robbed?
Actually, the Chinese not so much, because numerous reasons.
One is the Chinese pay a lot more in advance, and they have their own established routes.
And so they're sort of paying in advance.
They pay a lot more.
Like, to get to this point, they're usually...
We're actually paying roughly $20,000 per person, roughly.
Some will say $15,000, some are like $30,000.
Really?
Usually they will have paid about $30,000.
Oh yeah, big bucks.
Big bucks.
I've seen them exchange cash right at these tables I'm sitting at right now.
But they will come in groups.
The Chinese usually come in groups of five or ten or even more.
And again, they pay for the more, let's say, luxurious coyotes.
And those coyotes, I mean, you pay enough and you won't get robbed because you're paying in advance, right?
Right.
And so now where it gets dangerous for Chinese again, like some are messaging me now from Mexico, is once they get to Mexico, unless you've really taken another luxurious route, then it can get dangerous again.
It just depends on where you're at.
But here through the Panama phase...
They'll pay extra money, and then they just get through.
Wow, okay.
Did you happen to catch the recent interaction between Senator Ted Cruz and DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, where Cruz was basically demanding that he answer questions about You know, isn't the border a crisis?
Aren't Americans placed in danger and so on?
And Mallorca's just refused to answer everything.
Complete cover-up, total denial that there's any problem whatsoever.
Have you seen that interaction or are you aware of that?
I wasn't aware of it until you just said it.
But right here beside me, about...
700 meters away is where Mayorkas lands in its helicopters.
Like last April in 2022, he landed in four Blackhawks right here, right in front of me.
And this year, they came down again last month in April, same place, and they've expanded the camps here.
Mayorkas has personally come down here.
So Mayorkas...
He is directly involved.
Yeah, it seems like, from what you're saying, that Mallorcas is overseeing the expansion of these camps, not shutting them down, and that when Senator Ted Cruz expresses concern about the border, Mallorcas just refuses to answer because he's running, I mean, let's be honest, Mallorcas is running a massive human trafficking criminal cartel, is what it seems like to me, or a campaign.
I mean, Mallorcas is a human trafficker.
Would you disagree with that?
Oh, it's obvious.
I mean, they don't even hide it.
I mean, they're handing out rape kits.
I have one in my room.
I mean, these are pre-rape kits, as Matt Bracken calls them.
I mean, they have male condoms, female condoms.
They have abortion pills.
I mean, they hand them out to males and females as they come through the daring gap.
And a lot of these children clearly are not the children of the parents that they're with.
They don't even look the same.
I mean, you hear the Panamanians all the time.
They're very angry.
Panamanians have a heart, too.
And they don't like what they're seeing.
But what can they do?
Because the United States is pushing this on the government of Panama.
Destroying the jungles here.
And malaria is through the roof here.
The malaria, of course, isn't spread by humans, but it is spread by humans.
The humans bring it, and the mosquitoes are the mail service.
So the mosquitoes take it from human to human, right?
Same with dengue.
And dengue is going through the roof here.
And this is malaria that's coming from Africa.
It's different strains.
And like, for instance, the Embra Indians.
The chief of 29 villages, his name is Francisco Agape, he's a friend of mine, he told me a few nights ago, about five nights ago at dinner in Panama City, he said, you know, before the migration, whenever we would have a, we had one or two cases of malaria per year, and when one of the Indians got it, everybody talked about it, you know, so-and-so got malaria.
But now, so many people get malaria, it's just like, almost everybody's, it's just, it's gone like wildfire, right?
Not only that, waterborne And other things, of course, like mosquito-borne illnesses like dengue as well.
Well, it seems to me also, Michael, oh, and let me give out your website.
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But it seems to me that these camps could be used to intentionally release Long incubation period, Marburg, Ebola, variants, chimeric viruses, biological weapons of any kind could just be placed into these various camps, knowing that these people are going to take it right across the southern border of America and bring it to American cities.
I mean, wouldn't that be the perfect weaponized vector for the next pandemic?
Perfect cover.
And anybody could do it.
CCP, United States, of course.
Fauci and his crew, Gates.
I mean, anybody could do it, right?
Or just some random person that feels the need to do it.
I mean, these buses that they just take off in constantly, day and night.
I mean, seriously, tuberculosis, as you know, is one of the most This epic disease is in all of human history, and multidrug-resistant tuberculosis is spreading all over the United States right now, and it's going right down this highway, right from this camp right here on these buses.
This will kill people in massive numbers, and it's coming.
It's absolutely coming because it's already spreading all over the United States, such as in New York.
Sam Fattis, you know, he's got a substack.
He just published on it today, actually.
I think you know Sam Fattis.
He may have been on your show.
If not, he should be.
No, I don't know him.
He talks about these sorts of things all the time.
No, we should get him on.
Yeah, do an introduction.
We'll get him on.
But, you know, I mean, there have been people arrested in America for getting on an airplane after having a TB diagnosis.
They were arrested for intentionally spreading tuberculosis.
That's happened in America.
And yet, as you just say, TB-positive, TB-infected people are walking right across the border.
And Mayorkas is complicit in it.
Massive human trafficking, but also disease vectors.
So where's the CDC? The CDC is jumping all over us about lockdowns and masks and vaccines.
But when it comes to people crossing the border with infectious diseases...
You know, they're completely silent.
I guess the propaganda money doesn't count when it's a border issue, right?
They just spend it against the American people.
But, I mean, your thoughts, Michael.
Go ahead.
CDC is obviously part of the problem.
I mean, you know, there was a time when I looked at the FDA and the CDC as, you know, these are our very important agencies that do really important things.
I see them quite opposite.
They're clearly captured.
They're clearly not acting in our best interest.
It's clearly a fascist state.
And I use that term with full seriousness, without any caveat whatsoever.
It's a full fascist state.
Fascism, of course, is when When government and business is so entwined that they're inseparable.
You can't tell the difference, right?
It's like saltwater.
And that's what we have now, right?
And we also see there's a reason why the Hong Kongers call the mainland Chinese Chinese Nazis because Nazism was basically when the Nazis took I think?
And you see that the World Economic Forum and the Chinese Communist Party are working together on these various projects to destabilize the United...
Panama itself is destabilized, as is Peru, as is Ecuador, obviously Venezuela is gone, Colombia is collapsing, as are many other South American and African and just countries around the world, much less the entirety of Europe.
I've spent a lot of time in Europe in the last year or so, and I've spent more than six years there in total.
And you can see Europe is just like on quaking legs right now.
This thing is definitely going to blow.
If we don't close, it's already too late.
We're not going to get through this without pain.
We're going to have a lot of pain.
And the pain is only increasing day by day.
As these borders remain wide open, and not only wide open, but facilitated.
The pump is primed, and the U.S. government, I call it OGUS, the occupying government of the United States, is actually pumping our borders with millions of people that shouldn't be there, filled with diseases that are making the Panamanians sick, they're making people sick every step of the way.
And do they realize what they're walking into?
Because, you know, a lot of these people think America is a free country, a country of opportunity, yet, you know, America's cities are collapsing.
It's a totalitarian regime in charge that stole the election.
Democracy has failed in America.
Freedom of the press, freedom of speech is gone.
You have the DOJ prosecuting people for exercising their First Amendment rights in America.
You know, the cities are being gutted with violence and crime.
The police don't have sufficient funding.
I mean, do these people realize what they're walking into, which is, you know, an Orwellian nightmare, dystopian sci-fi, you know, collapse picture or something?
Do they have any idea?
Yeah, I think.
I think what most of them don't see is that they are part of a replacement strategy.
It's the same in Europe.
I mean, this idea of a replacement strategy, some people, again, will call it conspiracy theory, but those people are actually idiots.
I mean, let's just call them what they are.
They're actually idiots.
I am a war correspondent.
This is what I do for year after year, decade after decade around the world.
Replacement strategies with weaponized migration is a real thing.
It has been for many centuries.
There's nothing new about it.
And I mean, Stalin did it.
Mao did it.
Just a long list of people that do these replacement strategies.
Hitler has done it.
You know, first you label the enemy, for instance, with whatever, Kulak or Jew or Polish or whatever.
And then you just tell people, go take their stuff.
Go take their house.
Go take their farm.
Go take their whatever.
And interestingly, oftentimes the people who end up being the victims were part of the ones who facilitated it.
They're often the ones who actually push these policies forward, right?
Yeah, like a lot of liberals in America.
They don't realize what they're unleashing upon themselves.
I see it now with some of the Texans, for instance, who are behind Bush or behind Abbott or whatever.
They seem to think that they're going to come out ahead.
They're going to be killed.
They're going to be killed.
Their ranches are going to be taken, right?
That's how this goes, right?
This is no joke, right?
This is actual war, right?
This is not like, hey, we're going to negotiate this later.
No, they're going to kill you and they're going to take your ranches and they're going to take your farms.
That's how this goes.
It's an old story.
It's a tale as old as time.
And every day we get weaker and they get stronger.
So how many?
I mean, I'm trying to get a sense of just the annual flow here.
I mean, obviously, it's more than just a few hundred thousand people flowing into the United States across the southern border.
I mean, are we talking a million a year or millions?
What are the numbers?
Any idea?
Nobody actually knows, but it's definitely in the millions.
On this highway right here behind me, this is Highway 1 that you keep seeing the cars go by, the current rate, the instantaneous rate is more than $400,000 a year just on that little artery, right?
That's just one.
Of course, then we've got Canada.
We've got people coming up on the beaches in Florida.
We've got people just landing at Atlanta Airport in Los Angeles and New York, I mean, getting with actual visas.
And we've got people that fly to places like Nucanagua first or Mexico, and they just bypass this totally.
So there's all kinds of different routes where people...
There's also, you know, tourism, birth tourism, which takes place on a large scale, especially with Chinese.
And, you know, they'll go to some of the islands, and the babies actually sponsor the families in because they get citizenship because they're born on a U.S. territory.
So, I mean, this is just epic.
And the replacement strategy...
It's in full force right now.
And the information war is absolutely intense.
We've seen what's happened in South Africa.
I mean, it's gone, right?
We've seen what's happening with many countries in the past.
We saw what happened with the Jews and the Nazis and whatnot.
This isn't just Jews and Nazis.
That's one tiny story among endless...
It's happening right now.
The Tibetans have been to Tibet.
It's happening in Xinjiang with the Uyghurs.
It's happening all over the place.
It happened in a soft genocide with the...
With the Hong Kongers, of course, I was there and I got kicked out in 2020 from Hong Kong.
And that was a soft genocide where the mainlanders were bringing in about 100 to 150 mainlanders per day for years.
And then they just slowly took over the schools, slowly took over the bureaucracy, slowly took over the elections in the government, and then just took it.
In 2019 and 2020, they took it.
So now Hong Kong is gone with the wind.
We can see that they're prepping Japan for the same.
Japan still has a long way to go, but the information war is quite intense.
I mean, they're prepping Japanese.
For instance, I was on Ishigaki Island recently with Chuck Colton and Misako Ganaha.
And Ishigaki Island is an island not far from Taiwan.
And we talked with the mayor and some others there, both in Tokyo and Ishigaki.
And what they're concerned about is when something finally happens with Taiwan, a huge amount of fishing boats are going to take people over to places like Ishigaki Island.
And they're just going to supplant all the Japanese that are there who are going to have to leave.
And it's going to be a bunch of mainlanders, basically.
And that's Okinawa Prefecture, by the way.
That's basically like coming to the Florida Keys.
And from the Florida Keys, of course, then...
In Florida and the United States.
It's the same tactic everywhere.
It's not just United States.
It's not just Europe.
It's also Japan, Australia, Kiwiland.
It all works.
Well, and some would argue that in the United States, cities like Minneapolis have already been replaced.
Yeah, I mean, it's not what it was 20 years ago, and the American people are being pushed out of many areas.
Of course, along the southern border now, we have also...
Not just human trafficking, but weapons trafficking, and, I mean, heavy-grade weapons, explosives, mortars.
I have this from my other contacts, explosive vests, suicide vests, and then China shipping in things like full-auto drop-in triggers and illegal suppressors that are sometimes caught by Customs and Border Protection, by the way, CBP. It seems like, Michael, it seems like they're staging not just the people for a domestic war in America, but they're staging all the equipment.
So there are actual, I mean, even uniforms have been staged so that some CCP members can go to a location, grab an automatic rifle, grab a police uniform, grab high explosives and go out and start pretending to be a law enforcement officer and start blowing up refineries, for example.
Like, that's all being staged and set up.
So you're just watching the human component, but there's all these weapons that are being staged at the same time.
What do you think about that?
Yeah, I mean, for instance, in all these countries down here, like CCP buying land all through Central America, not just here, Cambodia, all over the world, various islands around the world.
You know, generally buying land right by the sea, right?
Obviously, Mexico is turning in the direction of CCP. We see, for instance, countries like Netherlands.
You know, I spend a lot of time there.
The reason I go there is not for some random reason because I love Netherlands, which is a nice country.
It used to be anyway.
It's collapsing now.
But the reason why I go to Netherlands is the same reason I'm in Panama.
These are strategic pieces of real estate.
The Netherlands, for instance, They're using the weaponized migration and stealing the farms from the farmers because the number one and two ports in Europe are Rotterdam and Antwerp harbors, right?
Rotterdam is number one and Antwerp to the south is number two.
Rotterdam happens to be at the terminus or at the beginning of the railway that goes all the way to Shanghai, right?
This is a Chinese railway that goes all the way across Asia and ends up Rotterdam, right?
And so Tri-State City, the smart city with about 30 million people, which is being worked on now, requires stealing the land from the Dutch farmers and others, right?
And not only in addition to taking that land, They also, for instance, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and others are seizing control of the food production, as you know, crickets and all these other things, and printable meats, which they actually sell in restaurants in Netherlands now.
I've actually gone to a restaurant.
They actually print the meat.
I actually bought some.
I didn't even taste it.
I just spent a bunch of money and made video of it.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
where they actually have a printer that prints realistic-looking fake meat.
Yeah, the future of food under globalist control.
But the common thread of what you mentioned there, Michael, is clearly the globalists want to eliminate the United States of America.
They want to eliminate Western Europe as it currently exists.
And then they want a communist-style one-world government, one-world currency, total globalist control over the money supply and all resources.
So food, energy, commodities, and human resources as well.
It just seems like every day it's moving in that direction.
I don't see any effective efforts to put a pause on that at all.
No.
We hear a bunch of talk.
You know, a lot of people are like, when the blue helmets come, we'll finally stand up.
When the blue helmets come, are you ridiculous?
You know what I'm saying?
That's a little bit too late, don't you think?
You know what I mean?
I mean, right now is the time to stand up, right?
I mean, there's already going to be massive pain.
There's no way around it.
There needs to be massive deportations by the millions, right?
But I don't see the will to do it at this time.
You know, we see, again, country after country just collapses.
And they do so step by step, the frog in the water, and that's what's happening now.
And again, let's go back to other historical times.
You know, we all hear about, you know, we know about the Holocaust and whatnot, but the Holocaust is just one of endless holocausts out there.
I mean, that's the one with the name brand.
But it just goes on and on and on.
And some, for instance, the Han Chinese, they do genocide the way Americans go to McDonald's.
I mean, they're doing it to the Tibetans.
I've been to Tibet.
You see Tibetans in northern India.
You see Tibetans spread around Nepal, where I spent a year as well.
You see Tibetans in Hong Kong and California everywhere flying their prayer flight.
They're never going to get Tibet back.
It's gone, right?
I mean, the time to resist, you've lost it, right?
They're doing the same to the Uyghurs and Xinjiang.
It's just, again, the time is coming for the Taiwanese as well, step by step, slowly taking it over.
One of the problems with the Taiwanese have right now is thousands of their companies are in mainland China.
So it's not like you can just cut it off.
No, there were a lot of efforts of cross-border economic ties.
And yeah, a lot of Taiwan business people actually shipped their factories over to China because it was cheaper to manufacture there in China.
Are you doing okay?
You cool there?
You secure?
Oh yeah, I'm fine.
I'm fine.
This is a really interesting place.
I mean, if you sit here at 2 in the morning and you'll see Chinese and others walking up the street going to America, it's unbelievable.
Again, the Panamanians are getting angry because their women are being harassed.
Places are getting robbed.
They're breaking into people's houses.
Even as I'm sitting here numerous times, people are coming up demanding food and whatnot.
This is amazing.
They're going straight up to America, bringing diseases and demanding food every step of the way.
What are we doing when our economy is collapsing?
We see places like UPS cutting down their loads.
FedEx, the whole works.
You know what's going on in your business, man.
I mean, well, actually, in your business, it's probably doing great because the people that have a brain see that we're going into very serious problems, right?
And, you know, one of the interesting things about famines and that sort of thing is oftentimes people, there are always these people that see it coming.
I was just over in Japan studying some of the people in the 1800s and 1700s who actually We're good to go.
Always people that see it coming.
That's one of the truisms I've noticed in famine.
There's always some people who see it coming.
There's always some people who will see it a little bit late.
And then there's a lot of people, believe it or not, they never really realize what happened even when it's over, if they survive.
Even like, for instance, in Mao's Great Famine, nobody knows how many people died.
50 million?
Nobody knows.
There were people writing letters to Mao.
Hey, if Mao only knew.
Same thing with the Holodomor in Ukraine.
There were people writing letters to Stalin.
If Stalin only knew, he would rescue us.
It was Stalin that was doing it.
It was Mao who was doing it.
And they just never get it.
Even while they're eating shoe leather.
Even while they're eating tree bark and mud.
These are things that you see in every famine, by the way.
Tree bark gone.
People are eating it.
Eating mud, of course.
And every family, you see people making mud cookies or eating mud, like pica-type conditions.
Always eating leather.
All the shoes get eaten.
Anything, you know, horse saddles, everything gets eaten.
Not to mention the horses, of course.
Oh, my.
Well, you're right.
I mean, there is this oblivious class, I call them, of people who just will never get it.
They can never see what's going on.
And you're right.
Our business is doing very good.
We can just barely keep up with demand with our own production.
But there's going to come a day where we don't have the supply lines functioning like we do right now.
It's been difficult for the last three years.
But I know there's a day coming when we can't get the supplies, and even more importantly, there's a day coming when the banking system doesn't work, so transactions do not function.
And there might be a lot of people out there who maybe they're okay on food supplies, but they still trust the banking system.
So they're sitting on dollars, and then those dollars collapse, and then they're screwed in a different way.
So you have to cover all the bases, right?
You know, food and money, assets, you know, emergency medicine, mobility.
Buy, sell, and trade capabilities, gold and silver, what have you.
You've got to cover all the bases in some way.
Yeah, actually, interesting you bring up the money part.
And often people go into famine when there actually, weirdly, wasn't actually necessarily a food shortage.
It's because the economy collapsed or hyperinflation or whatever, and people can't afford it.
And then they start stealing it from the farmers and stealing it from the warehouses and that sort of thing.
So farmers stop making it.
It stops moving.
And so even when there was plenty of food, then people can go into famine because the economy's collapsed and that sort of thing.
And yeah, that happened, for instance, in Weimar Germany.
I hired two people last week to start going around some of the villages in Panama because I'm picking up some signal that there may be some food shortages here.
Not food shortages.
There's plenty of food still, but there are job shortages.
And so there are what we were just talking about.
So there are some places now where people are actually starting to go a little hungry, even though there's a lot of food here, which is a paradox of famines, by the way.
Often there's plenty of food and people are starving to death.
For instance, Ireland.
Ireland was surrounded by fish, you know, in the potato famine and still, you know, Many people starve to death, right?
And that day will come again for Ireland.
Likewise, Henan Province in China.
Breadbasket of China during Mao's Great Famine.
Still, huge famine.
Or Ukraine.
One of the breadbaskets of the world.
Still, famine is endemic in Ukraine.
Just It comes and goes.
Likewise in Japan, there's been untold numbers of famines in Japan.
Nobody knows how many, but it looks like at least 500 in about the last 1,500 years.
That's like one every three years.
I mean, not in the last few generations.
But a lot of those are caused by things like volcanoes, though.
Like a volcano can cause a sudden local famine.
It's not like a general famine on Japan.
And it'll be one area, one island, that sort of thing.
Well, but let's talk about the war effects as well, because you mentioned Ukraine.
And I've learned that this year, only 12% of the farmland in Ukraine is being even planted.
And given the war situation there, it's, of course, unknown how much of that could be harvested.
It must be sort of southwestern Ukraine, I'm guessing.
I don't know.
But Russia launched a major attack in the last couple of days.
There's an escalation taking place.
It looks like the United States is going to get increasingly involved in that war.
You know, you talk about the trifecta, you know, war, disease and famine or pandemics and famine.
They always go together.
And here we see a perfect case of that where the war in Ukraine is causing farmers not to be able to grow food.
So that's going to affect food scarcity across all of Europe and even the Middle East as well.
So you want to riff on that for a minute?
Oh, yeah.
And you and I have talked to, I don't know, a couple of years ago.
I don't even know how long it was now, at least a year ago, talking about, for instance, BASF.
In which I went to twice.
By the way, this handkerchief I keep using is the Dutch will recognize that.
That's the Dutch sign of resistance for the farmers.
That's where I got it from.
Actually, Ava Vardigabrook gave me this one.
Hey, Ava, I got your handkerchief.
But this is what the Dutch farmers wear and keep on their cars and whatnot because their farms are being taken.
But right, it's all about conditions, as you know.
If the conditions are right, sparks don't matter.
There's always sparks.
This is a rainforest.
You can have...
A whole firework factory blow up here in Darien Gap and you're not going to have a forest fire because it rains, right?
But your migrants sound like they're having a little tiff or something.
Anyway, they're out on the highway.
The sun is going down, so that's when people start walking more.
And so, yeah, they'll start.
I see there's some here actually in this restaurant right now trying to get some food.
And so, right.
So here we go with the food issue, even as we talk, right?
I mean, they're leaving places from, like, Peru and obviously Venezuela, and Colombia has obviously collapsed.
And interestingly, I was with a Dutch farmer last month in March in the Netherlands, and he was a pig farmer.
And he said, you know, I have a great system because I use my pig manure to fertilize my pear trees and my Christmas trees, right?
Yeah.
And, you know, he was happy that he had this, you know, aquarium-like system.
I said, where do you get your pig feed?
He was a smart guy.
Within, like, a second that I said, where do you get your pig feed?
He goes, Brazil.
His eyes got wide.
You know, he's a farmer.
He's like, he didn't need the rest of the briefing.
He's like, oh, you're right.
And he started going on the food.
He goes, you're right, my pig feed prices are going up a lot.
That's right, because they're getting their fertilizer from Europe.
They're getting their fertilizer from next door in Germany and places like that.
And so the place that you're getting your pig feed in Brazil is actually getting their fertilizer next door from Germany.
And BASF is obviously in big trouble, as are others, after we saw what happened in Nord Stream and other nitrogenous fertilizer suppliers have been either shut down or closed down, either truncated or shut down completely.
So all these prices are going through the roof.
So now you've got a lot of farmers here in Panama, for instance.
One, his name is Sebastian, I think he's 73.
He said his whole life, his family and his father and everybody were always farmers.
This is the first year of his whole life he's not farming because he can't afford the fertilizer and the input.
So now he's relying on his daughter to feed him.
Obviously, what happens when his daughter loses her government job?
She works for the Panamanian government.
I mean, this is obviously...
This is how you go into families.
So how many different Sebastians are there out there here in Panama?
There's a lot.
Again, I hired a couple people last week to just start going around the villages and picking up atmospherics for me so that I can stay focused on the migration issues.
Then when I pop out of here, I'm going to go check some of these food issues.
And then I've got to get to Texas, actually, and come see you and hit the border.
Obviously, this is all part of a larger system.
It's not just...
These migrants behind me and it's not just Venezuela and others collapsing.
We've got a systemic collapse globally.
Okay, I think that's the key point of this entire interview.
This is a systemic global collapse.
It's being engineered.
And as a result of this, mass human migration, which will really be...
This will transition into mass human refugees, including potentially refugees out of certain areas of the United States as the currency collapse kicks in.
And the thing is, you know...
A typical American has no idea how to bug out, how to walk out, you know, how to go through.
I mean, even most of the people that you see going through the Darien Gap there, Michael, they at least have some toughness.
They have some determination.
You know, it takes a lot of courage, actually, to attempt that.
I'm not trying to excuse what they're doing.
They're trying to enter the U.S. illegally.
But at least they're not weak, soft, snowflake people, right?
Right.
I've thought about this a lot in my travels around the world.
As you know, I've spent more than half of my life overseas in about 90 countries outside of the United States.
And I've often wondered, why was the United States so successful and so...
Let's say alpha, right?
And I think it's because in the original, I think part of it may be because the original wave after wave of migration were really very serious risk takers, very serious tough people.
Like my family first came over in 1609.
They got shipwrecked on Bermuda.
And my uncle was born there.
His name was Bermudas with an S on the end.
He was the first child who survived.
That's why Bermuda is the oldest British colony today, was because of that shipwreck.
The ship was called the Sea Venture.
And they finally made it to Jamestown in 1610.
That's my mother's side, the Easons, E-A-S-O-N.
If you look up, there's a book called The Sea Venture, and you'll see my ultra-great-grandparents were on that shipwreck.
They're named, actually, the godfather of my uncle married Pocahontas.
I mean, so we go back pretty far.
In my father's side, both sides fought in the Revolutionary War in places like North Carolina.
I had an uncle who was a colonel in the Revolutionary War, blah, blah, blah.
So, I mean, we came from a sort of people that were the ones who would go to Mars today, right?
Right.
Tough-minded people.
But then we had these other generations that were either dragged over or now are taking the easy route.
That's a different sort of people.
They're not...
My family, when they came over, they came over with an axe over their shoulder, right?
You know what I mean?
And they were fighting Indians and stuff for literally several hundred years, right?
I mean, they're very serious people.
We're getting a lot of people now that are coming over like these Venezuelans that always come around me here just begging for food, shamelessly, constantly, right?
I mean, and it's just a different sort of people.
Yeah, I agree with everything you just said, but also domestically, generation after generation, we have this massive welfare class in America.
We have apathy.
We have weakness where you can't even keep score in a high school sporting competition anymore because everybody's a winner, right?
But then it's okay for a biological man to beat up a woman on the high school wrestling team as long as he claims to be a woman.
Yeah.
You've got this weird, perverted, twisted, snowflake-ian kind of libtard culture that's taking over much of America, and that doesn't breed toughness, you know?
The toughness is still there in some people, but in the masses it's not.
They've become lazy and apathetic.
Yeah, it's just not.
It's just not there.
I mean...
It's funny.
I'm still one of the people that just realized that I'm not wearing my hat, but I'm normally wearing this hat around.
You know?
I'm still one of the people that still wears my American flag, and I still believe in the United States.
Right?
But I identify as an American American.
Right?
I mean, my family's been in the United States since 1610.
Right?
Or it wasn't the United States back then.
I mean, it was America.
Right?
They went to Jamestown.
Well, they went to Bermuda and got shipwrecked.
You know?
Historically, my family doesn't know anything but America.
And now, in more subsequent generations, we've out-married to people from Asia and Europe and whatnot.
So we continue to co-mingle and that sort of thing.
But the interesting thing is, again, we have now fertilized weakness in the United States.
We've institutionalized sorriness and weakness.
And that's just what it is, sorriness and weakness.
I mean, we've got these people now in the military who, you know, they think that women should be rangers and whatnot.
I even know people who were actually rangers who supported putting women through rangers.
They're such losers.
And these people were actually Rangers, right?
Most of the Rangers actually know that something's wrong with this.
And then there's others who are brought on board to put their tab behind it, like, you know, women can be Rangers too.
Bullshit.
I mean, it's just a mistake.
They're going to be fighting people that are still real men that will slam their head into the ground.
I mean, this is no joke.
You know, combat isn't like, oh, now we've all got a bunch of drones and we can fight from, you know, from a Starbucks.
That's not the way this is playing out.
Yeah, you know, it's interesting, like trying to make women rangers and put them on the front lines of combat is kind of like having a woman in the MMA fight a transgender biological man, smashing her in the face in the ring and saying that that person's a woman.
You know, it's insane.
If we believe in protecting women's rights, we also need to believe in protecting their safety.
And they don't belong on the front lines of harsh combat like what you're talking about.
Not that they can't play many other roles in the military, but you don't want to subject them to the rape, the torture, the physical combat, so many stresses that even many men die in such combat.
They just can't do it, period.
They just can't do it.
I mean, it's not about courage.
I've been in a lot of combat, real combat.
Not just a war correspondent, but a real combat correspondent.
I've done that for years.
I've done more combat than almost any war correspondent you'll ever meet, right?
In fact, I don't know anybody that's done more than actual combat.
And I've been out with a lot of women in combat.
They can't handle it.
They can handle it courage-wise a lot, but I've never seen a woman, for instance, when they're out As medics or whatever, or doing other jobs like intelligence and we're out on infantry missions.
I've never seen a woman go, hey, I want to get into a firefight today.
I want to mix it up today.
Hey, there's the enemy over there.
Let's go kill him.
That's what you need from your young soldiers.
That's what you need from your young special forces and rangers.
You need to be like, hey, let's go get them.
Let's close them.
Hey, we've got them between the sea.
We can close them off.
We can block them in and kill them today or tonight or whatever.
I've never seen a woman do that.
They don't have that aggressive spirit that it takes to close with the enemy and kill them, right?
They don't have the ability to do combat hour after hour, day after day, week after week, going over obstacle after obstacle after obstacle, carrying wounded people that got their legs blown off, carrying people that can't See anymore.
Carrying people to the helicopters and stuff.
And this isn't like where everybody's going to have to hang by the bar for their weight limit or whatever.
You know, 30 seconds hang by the bar.
No.
Bullets are snapping.
Bullets are snapping.
You've got to be quick.
Things on fire.
Guys are screaming, right?
I remember, for instance, one suicide bombing hit one of our vehicles in Mosul, Iraq.
And a couple of the soldiers were screaming inside.
They were burning to death.
And the soldiers had to go in and get them out.
They died.
But the bottom line is, or actually one survived after months in Texas burn war.
But the bottom line is, these are things that were in a real-time moment.
We're under fire.
There's literally fires at times.
It's very difficult to carry casualties.
It's very difficult to maintain that level of aggressiveness week after week, month after month, year after year.
You know, the eye of the tiger, go out and close with the enemy.
We still have it.
I mean, if we really had it, I hear a lot of these, even the special operations guys now, they're like, you know, they're doing their exercise calendars or whatever while the border's wide open.
You know, they're all talking about MMA or some bullshit.
I mean, seriously, the border is wide open.
Close it.
You know what I mean?
Close it.
We don't need the government to close it.
Close it yourself.
Go close the roads, right?
I mean, if the government doesn't do it, it's down to us, right?
The government's not doing it.
They're capturing us.
Abbott keeps saying that he's using Texas Guard resources to try to close the border, but then it seems to be a lot of talk because nothing's actually getting closed.
Abbott doesn't do it.
I mean, I've been down in Piedras Negra on the Mexican side.
And on the Texas side, Eagle Pass, all over the place.
El Paso, I'm down there.
I remember I was on the Mexican side.
I remember my phone was so hot one day, I was doing a live stream, and it overheated.
I had to take it off the gimbal and stick it in the Rio Grande to cool it off and kept going.
And I remember Abbott was saying, hey, we've got the border closed down and whatnot.
I'm like, no, you don't.
That's They're closing the Rio Grande right in front of me while I cool my phone in the Rio Grande.
You know, it's actually, believe it or not, your phone can actually be stuck in the Rio Grande and cool off without being in plastic.
It actually cooled off when I continued my live stream.
But it was very hot out there.
But the point is, is Abbott's out there saying that we're, you know, he'll send some busloads up to Washington, D.C., and people are like, ah, look, Abbott's doing something.
No, this is Kafeb.
This is professional wrestling.
This is this guy versus that guy.
It's not that...
Abbott, he's on the World Economic website.
Look up the World Economic Forum, Greg Abbott.
You'll see him on the World Economic Forum website.
He's one of them.
He's openly one of them.
This is the thing.
They say who they are.
They don't even hide it.
And they just count on people like going, oh, well, whatever.
You know, for instance, the BBB party over in Netherlands, which just won in landslide on the March 15th elections.
I was Gunfire, maybe.
Gunfire?
Okay.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what that was.
Anyway, so the BBB party, it was three-somethings.
So anyway.
This party in Netherlands, it's called the Born Burger Beveging, right?
Which in Dutch language means farmer citizen movement, right?
And this party, with their election signs all over Netherlands, is Be Better, like Build Back Better.
Build back better.
Those are the people trying to steal your farms.
And yet, so it's all over their election signs.
And yet, the farmers overwhelmingly voted for BB Better Park.
They're like telling you, and I was telling them, they are a wolf dressed as a wolf.
They're saying they're a wolf.
Actually, while I was there, a wolf got, they're not even a wolf in sheep.
They don't even bother with the sheep's clothing.
There was actually a wolf killed right next to my hotel, 500 meters away.
And it got hit by a car when I was in Netherlands because they've been releasing wolves over there.
So some years ago, they passed a law, a wolf protection law in Netherlands, and people were like, why would you pass a wolf protection law?
There's no wolves here for 150 years.
They passed the law, boom.
Now there's wolves everywhere, and they're killing people's sheep, they're killing people's cattle, and whatnot.
This is all part of the plan to take their farms.
And again, this is not conspiracy theory.
The World Economic Forum says it with their mouths.
It's on their website, and crystal clear writing what they're doing.
It's not hidden.
They're doing it right in your face.
The BBP party.
And yet the farmers voted for them.
And I was telling some people in some private chats, including a former ambassador, I'm like, look at what they're doing.
And he's like, oh no, this is authentic.
You know, I've met the leader, Caroline Vanderplass is her name, and she's authentic.
I'm like, no, she's not.
She's a fraud.
She started that in 2019.
It's a marketing firm.
It was started by a marketing firm.
It is a marketing firm.
The BBB party is a marketing firm.
And yet they just won the election in a landslide.
They just took, what, 15 seats and whatnot.
And so now they're pushing all this stuff through that will take farms.
It only took six weeks.
Last week they had some key decisions in the BBB. Not even a Trojan horse.
They're not hidden inside the horse.
They just walked right in like, we're the big bad wolf and we're here to take your stuff.
Wow.
Okay, well, you're definitely sounding the alarm.
A lot of people are listening, Michael.
What final thoughts?
I mean, we're just about out of time today, but what do you want people to take away from this?
I mean, you've raised a lot of critical issues here.
You know, the United States of America is done if we don't protect the border.
Europe is done if you don't protect your ranchers and your farms and have the ability to have an economy by using energy, by the way.
You know, Western civilization is crumbling before our very eyes, but it's not just crumbling.
It's being demolished.
This is controlled demolition of Western Europe and the United States.
What do we do with this information, Michael?
Look, I mean, look at Ireland, for instance.
I was over there some months ago.
Ireland, tiny little island, little speck, as Matt Brackett has been pointing out, and yet they're just pushing the migration into there, the invasion.
I was out with Mary Lou McDonald.
She's the leader of Sinn Féin.
She's a dunce.
You're walking down the street with Mary Lou McDonald.
So she's the leader of the Sinn Féin party, and people think she'll be the future of...
The future Prime Minister of Greater Ireland.
We're in a bar together.
I don't drink, but, you know, Irish.
And she's like, you know, and I want to talk with her about food.
She's like, oh, why do we want to talk about food?
We have plenty of food, you know, with her Irish accent.
We're like, we need to talk about equality and equity and all these nonsense things.
I mean, Ireland is being taken over, right?
They're beating...
White Irish people into the dirt.
Ireland never had slaves.
They're a tiny little island.
And yet, for some reason, it makes sense to just invade Ireland with Africa.
Have you been to Ireland recently?
I mean, it's really over-the-top gone.
It's spec by spec, whether it's Luxembourg, about 50%, like 0% of Luxembourg is now new migrants.
You can't even make up the stuff.
It's gone.
So, I mean, you're either going to fight now or you're either going to fight now or you're going to be a slave or you're going to die.
That's all.
You don't have choices.
Where are you going to run to?
Kiwiland, remember for years when people are saying, hey, I'm going to go to New Zealand.
New Zealand, they know what they're doing.
New Zealand's nothing.
New Zealand just gave up.
I mean, they're part of the problem.
Australia did the same thing.
Oh, we're tough Australians.
Yeah, you're nothing.
They're taking Australia.
And they're taking the United States.
We have to stand up like our forefathers did.
That's why I'm here.
You know what I mean?
I'm standing up.
And you are.
You're standing up.
And we have to get people standing up.
And if the government doesn't close the border, we close it.
Yeah, a very important point.
If the government doesn't close the border, we close it.
It may come down to that.
And you are raising the alarm.
You're being very effective, Michael.
I know, I mean, you've been through some sickness there, as you mentioned earlier.
A lot of people around you are getting quite ill.
You're exposing yourself to, you know, a lot of potential biohazards, actually, some of which may be lab concocted.
So we all appreciate what you're doing there, and you taking the time to share with us Thank you for your time today, Michael.
Thank you, Michael.
I'll be back in Texas soon, within a week.
Oh, good.
That's great to hear.
When you come back, of course, you're always welcome here.
We'll get together.
I just want to give out your website again, michaelyan.locals.com.
Yan is spelled Y-O-N. Folks, if you want to support Michael Yan, go there.
We're going to be doing some fundraising for you, Michael.
Yeah, keep your head on a swivel there, man.
There's a lot going on.
In the meantime, we'll have more interviews with you coming up here on brighteon.com.
And when you're back in Texas, we'll get you in studio and swap some stories even off the record about some of the things that are going on that maybe you can't talk about publicly at this point.
But stay safe.
We really value what you're doing for America.
Thank you.
I'll see you soon.
Okay.
All right.
Sounds good.
That was Michael Yan, everybody.
Of course, the bandwidth is kind of sketchy at times, but we got 95%, 99% maybe.
It's all good.
Look, this is the end of the Republic.
If we don't stop this invasion, it's the end of Western Europe.
It's the end of Western civilization.
So, it's like, does this civilization have the will to stand up and defend itself?
That answer is not yet clear.
I don't know.
But I guess we're all going to find out together.
Thank you for watching today.
I'm Mike Adams here, the founder of Brighteon.com.
And we've been speaking with Michael Yan from the Darien Gap in Panama near the San Vicente migrant camp funded by the United Nations and the United States as well.
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