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April 6, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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BBN, Apr 6, 2023 - COMPOST is the new (black) gold + Homesteading solutions to survive CHAOS

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	Welcome to Bright Town Broadcast News for Thursday, April 6, 2023.
	I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger here, the founder of BrightTown.com.
	Thank you for joining me.
	And I have in front of me here a tray of broccoli sprouts that's grown in compost from a company called Patriot Green Products.
	And the founder of that company, Kevin Fretz, will be joining us in studio that we're going to have show and tell.
	It's going to be tons of fun.
	His company offers compost and compost tea, biochar, and other products.
	Let me show you a shot of some of the compost products that he's got.
	We're going to open up some of these bags, play with it, show you what this is all about.
	And the emphasis of today's show, well, in addition, we also have Leo Homan coming up for an interview about censorship and the tyranny of the regime.
	But my main focus of the show today is about getting off-grid, growing your own food, having your own backup systems for energy, for self-defense, for personal protection, for medicine, all of these things.
	So I'm going to be talking about a lot of solutions today in addition to the two interviews that are coming up here.
	You're going to have, I think, a blast because I've never interviewed Kevin here before, but But he's in studio.
	He's actually sitting right back there and he brought this for us.
	Broccoli sprouts.
	And you know, this contains sulforaphane.
	It's naturally synthesized by the sprouts themselves.
	And if you have the right compost materials that are clean, that are sourced correctly, And they have the right kind of microbiology in them.
	Then they can help boost your plant's immune systems because these are like probiotics for your plants.
	And whether you're doing home gardening or sprouting or even small-scale farming or even large-scale farming, you can benefit from the soil technology and the microbes that we're going to be talking about here today, right here on this show.
	And I just love the fact that we have so many viewers who are interested in But also, you don't know what's in your food.
	Even organic food from the grocery store, you know there's no heavy metals limits to organic food.
	Did you know that?
	The USDA doesn't test for lead.
	They don't test for cadmium or mercury or arsenic or nickel or aluminum or anything.
	Nobody's really doing that.
	Certainly no government agency is doing that.
	I mean, I do that in our food science lab.
	We test all the time.
	But almost nobody else is really doing that.
	So you've got to have clean materials to grow clean food and grow your own medicine.
	And the other thing that's coming into play right now is restrictions on your ability to use money the way you want to use it, i.e.
	to buy food.
	We know we're going to have a lot more tyranny coming down in terms of digital currency and productivity.
	Probably food purchasing limits.
	So you need to be able to grow more of your own food each and every day.
	We do have a sponsor today, and it's this company right here, arkseedkits.com.
	Ark Seed Kits, A-R-K stands for Agricultural Resource Kit.
	And this is full of seeds.
	I don't know how many seeds are in.
	It's like 50,000 seeds or more.
	They're, of course, non-GMO heirloom seeds.
	This is a company, I think if you use discount code RANGER, you can get 10% off some of their products, not all, but check them out at arcseedkits.com or maybe use seeds that you saved yourself from last season, but whatever you do, Get busy growing your own food, and that's the focus of today's show.
	So this is going to be a lot of fun.
	Stay tuned here.
	We'll have Kevin Fretz here from PatriotGreenProducts.com, followed by an interview with Leo Homan, whose book was just banned by Amazon because they don't like what he has to say.
	Stay with us right here on Bright Town Broadcast News.
	Welcome to today's interview here on brighttown.com.
	I'm Mike Adams and today we have a very special guest.
	Kevin Fretz joins us from patriotgreenproducts.com which is a very interesting company.
	Check out these microgreens here on the table that I've got for you right here.
	These are growing in the compost Well, the compost tea that Kevin's company puts together, patriotgreenproducts.com.
	And this is made...
	You have a lot of different composts and different things you're going to demonstrate for us here today.
	This is made from...
	As I understand it, the Lost Pines pine trees from the 2011 fires here in Central Texas, is that right?
	Yes, that's correct.
	So welcome to the show, by the way.
	First of all, thank you for having me.
	I'm really honored to be here, Mike.
	It's a pleasure.
	I've been following you for many, many years.
	Well, it's great to have you on.
	It's a pleasure to be here.
	So let me get this a little closer to you.
	So just as background, so you reached out to me, I don't know, six months ago or something, and you were talking about how you have this compost product.
	Mm-hmm.
	And, you know, I've even told people that compost is like black gold.
	Yes, it can be.
	It can be.
	Because you can grow food in it.
	And right now, more than ever, everybody wants to grow food.
	So tell us about your company and what you have.
	Yeah, so thank you.
	The company is as a result of about 30 years of work.
	I began this journey back in the early 90s, believe it or not, in Canada, up in Vancouver.
	Worked for a waste and recycling company, which was a Houston, Texas-based company, which was BFI. I worked with them on the very first commercial collection of organic materials to be converted into compost.
	And then in 93, I came to California with the same company, worked for them for a year.
	They ended their program and I founded my own research and development company because I was concerned About hazardous materials finding their way into the compost.
	Which definitely happens.
	We've seen that.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, I followed your movie.
	Biosludged.
	Biosludged.
	Yeah, that was an eye-opener.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, because I worked on the inside with the waste management industry, I saw...
	The hazardous materials that find their way into the waste stream and knew that there needed to be a higher standard for the materials.
	So I sought to create higher standards to protect our communities and our farms.
	So that's why we ended up evolving to this.
	So your company, as I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, patriotgreenproducts.com, you currently supply large volumes of clean, green, organic compost to sort of commercial clients.
	Sure, exactly.
	Governments?
	Yep, cities, hotels, casinos.
	Parks.
	Parks, yes, absolutely.
	And that's all over the country right now?
	Yep.
	From California to Florida.
	Wow.
	Right now, yep.
	And the advantage of your product is that, again, it comes from, I mean, I would maybe call it wild crafted compost.
	So it's not made from people's backyards, grass clippings that are sprayed with pesticides.
	Right, exactly.
	And the particular compost we have here in Texas is very special because it's from the Lost Pines fire, which were pine trees that were removed many, many years ago.
	Brought to Leander where they were processed into compost.
	And of course, they also have biochar, which I brought a sample of that to talk about today.
	Oh yeah, I want to see the biochar.
	Hey, can we show a sample of your compost from the Lost Pines trees, by the way?
	Here.
	It's under here.
	You're welcome to open the door.
	Yeah, I want to open it up.
	I want to play with it now.
	It's beautiful stuff.
	So this, we're going to have compost all over the place by the time we're done here today.
	But I don't know if you can see this, guys.
	This is a really rich, this is kind of a fine grind compost here.
	It's mostly from tree bark.
	Yeah, it's from the tree, the cellulose in the trees.
	And then all the microbes that have worked on this over all the years.
	Yeah, and this is amazing stuff.
	Now, I do want to disclose, you've given me some of this so that I could play with it.
	That's the extent of, like, you're not paying me for this interview, but you've given me some of your compost, which I appreciate.
	Yeah, happy to.
	But this is not a sponsored spot, folks.
	I'm bringing in Kevin and his company because right now everybody wants to grow food, and I like to help people grow clean food.
	So this is amazing.
	Can I smell it?
	Absolutely, yeah.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, man.
	Isn't that beautiful?
	It is.
	It smells like a forest floor.
	Oh, it smells like a forest floor.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, it really does.
	Because that's where it came from.
	Well, this is amazing.
	So now, did you offer this...
	As I understand it, then to end-user customers now.
	Sure.
	We're a wholesale business primarily that deals with commercial companies, but now we're reaching out to help the consumers because we know that people need to grow food.
	And we want them to grow food in something that we know is clean, and this is very, very clean material.
	So we have it available in super sacs, so they would come in a pallet, a one-cubic-yard super sac.
	This material has biochar blended in with it, and it also has microbes inoculated into it, beneficial microbes.
	So it's very, very high quality.
	And then you have different kinds of sizes that people can buy on your website?
	Yep.
	So we have different mixes.
	This would be something that you would blend in with your existing soil.
	We have materials that you can put on top of the soil.
	We have materials that you can plant directly into as well.
	We have materials that you can actually make a liquid extract from, or a tea, which is a fertilizer.
	I wanted to ask you about that, so we'll go to that later, but you actually have a tea making contraption here.
	Absolutely.
	And are you offering that on your website too?
	Yes, we are.
	Yep, you can buy these on your website, on our website.
	And we have commercial versions of this from 30 gallons all the way up to 1,500 gallons for farmers.
	Wow!
	So it's becoming a big thing now with farms.
	They're wanting to use this.
	So they put the material into the container, in this case a five gallon bucket, and then I see you have an air pump, a little aerator, and it just kind of aerates Well, go ahead and tell us how this works.
	I'll explain to you how it works.
	So you would take this mix.
	This mix has been tested for heavy metals.
	It's been tested for biology and soil food web testing to make sure it has the proper microbes in it.
	So you remove this.
	This would come as a package.
	So you remove this from the bag.
	You put it in the mesh bag.
	Okay.
	So you're putting it in a mesh bag and then you're immersing it in water in the bucket?
	Yes.
	And so this is an oxygen stone that goes into the bucket.
	Okay, oxygen stone.
	I'm going to repeat what you're saying so the audience can hear it.
	Sure.
	So you attach the aerator.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So the idea is that we want to aerate the water because what you're doing is we're removing the microbes from the compost into the solution.
	They need oxygen just like we do.
	They need oxygen, yeah.
	And if you don't give them oxygen, then you start growing anaerobic bacteria.
	Which is nasty muck.
	Right.
	It's alcohol.
	Oh, great!
	Your plants won't like it, though.
	Yeah, right.
	Okay, so you run the aerator.
	I mean, you put the compost tea material in the bag.
	You put the bag in there.
	You fill it with water.
	You run the aerator.
	And then for how long do you run that to get your compost heat?
	48 hours generally for two days.
	So you would run it, you put the lid on, there's a little hook on the lid that we put in here for you.
	You immerse this into the hook and go down inside the bucket.
	So you let it run for two days and then you open up your spout and fill up a A spray bottle?
	Yeah.
	Or you can just pour it directly into the soil.
	So it can be used as a foliar or put in the soil.
	Oh really?
	Yep.
	Okay, so then by the time you do this, I mean, how big of an area does it treat with the compost tea?
	Or can you make another batch out of the same compost?
	I imagine you can make a few batches, right?
	You can.
	Actually, this five gallon pail, we can supply you a pail or you can use your own pail.
	But with the amount of material we send you, You can treat one acre of land.
	An acre?
	An acre, yep.
	Wow.
	Yep.
	20 gallons to an acre.
	So then a lot of people may have, I don't know, like a farm ATV or a side-by-side and they can haul a little sprayer behind them?
	Yep, absolutely.
	Load it into the sprayer?
	Yep.
	I see.
	Spray it on the crops.
	Yep.
	For people that have ranches and farms, we would recommend go to our website and check out our more commercial brewers.
	We have one that's probably our smallest commercial brewer, which is a 30-gallon brewer.
	Okay.
	Now, let's talk about benefits, though.
	Once you treat this, because you're spraying living microbes onto the crops, right?
	Not just the nitrogen and all the fertilizer elements that are in here.
	I understand that makes plants more drought-resistant, among other things.
	What are some of the other benefits?
	Disease suppression.
	We can't say it's a pesticide for obvious reasons because it's not.
	But when you're spraying the soil or your foliar spraying with these microbes, they are antagonistic against disease-causing organisms.
	So they actually compete with and they'll kill and eat the disease-causing organisms.
	So very beneficial.
	So the work that we've done here is all soil food web-based.
	I studied agronomic chemistry many, many years ago.
	Had to understand how agriculture worked.
	I was raised on a farm.
	Yeah.
	Small farm.
	And I met Dr.
	Elaine Ingham While I was lecturing in Las Vegas, and she introduced me to the soil food web.
	Ah, you have a chart on that, yeah.
	Let's show that.
	Alright, so Kevin, now we have the food web chart set up here.
	Do you want to kind of walk us through some of that?
	Absolutely.
	So, as you know, through photosynthesis, what happens?
	The sun, through the sun's energy, the leaves bring in the sun's energy, and most of that energy is put below ground.
	And plants produce exudates.
	So carbohydrates go into the ground to feed the food web that lives below ground.
	So bacteria, fungi, protozoa, nematodes, beneficial nematodes, microarthropods, all of those living systems below ground allow things above ground to live and operate.
	This also sequesters carbonate below ground as well, which helps with reducing water use and also prevents runoff.
	Okay, so right now there's a big push in the food science industry to say that we need genetically modified organisms, GMOs, to have drought resistance.
	But what you're saying is there's a totally more holistic natural approach, which is nutrition for the soils, essentially.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, I mean, think about our forests, our plains areas, our natural systems.
	They manage things perfectly well.
	They don't pollute our groundwater, our rivers, and they make life above ground very healthy.
	So we're mimicking nature, but with good science.
	All right, so Kevin, the soil food web, I want you to narrate this.
	You're talking about solar energy goes through the plants plus nutrients, goes into this organic matter here, and then all the fungi, bacteria, what are these, primary consumers of the nutrients?
	Yes.
	And then...
	And it goes down different levels.
	But basically, in a nutshell, the plant life that's above ground is designed to feed the organisms below ground.
	Right.
	And in turn, they provide food to the plants.
	So it's a circle.
	So one of the key elements in this flow is that the nutrients are then released by all these organisms.
	They're released back...
	Into the plant roots to make the plants healthy, right?
	Absolutely, absolutely.
	And then you'll have in root systems a fungi called mycorrhizofungi, which will attach to the root system and it will expand through the soils to find water and nutrients and minerals that the plant needs in exchange with what the plant provides.
	The fungi and the bacteria, which are the carbohydrates that are produced through photosynthesis.
	So it's a closed-loop system.
	It's how God created nature.
	It's how it works.
	So yeah, the energy comes in from the sun, and then every different organism uses that through chemistry.
	Absolutely.
	Now then, in traditional agriculture, when they poison this system, they put pesticides and herbicides, you know, they disturb the microbiology, right?
	They use GMOs.
	They kill this whole food web here.
	Exactly, yes.
	And then the plants suffer.
	Yes, absolutely, they do.
	So, through my career, I had to go back and study Why we actually started using chemicals post-World War II. And there were benefits in the beginning, and they didn't really understand the consequences long term of what would happen by using them.
	But they did know that we would get three to five times more yield off the same piece of land.
	At first.
	At first.
	So farmers, you know, it was a really good thing in the beginning because they felt we could feed the world.
	Unfortunately, it also destroys soil structure.
	And when you destroy soil structure, you reduce the soil's ability to hold water.
	And percolate water properly and retain water.
	So what happens is that technology has allowed us to pollute our rivers, our groundwater, our ocean.
	And so this system that we have now, and we have 40 years of science to back it up, it actually mimics nature so that we can control all of those things.
	Alright, so this is all really fascinating, Kevin.
	I want you to walk us through then some of what your company offers, but tell us what was the medium in which you grew this?
	The engineered medium that we make in part has our compost in it, but we add other things to it.
	So we have minerals in there.
	We'll have a little bit of peat moss mixed in with it as well.
	But one of the main ingredients is the Pine material, which has biochar in it.
	Works very well.
	And then, are these broccoli?
	Yes, those are broccoli.
	Oh wow, so you're growing all kinds of sulforaphane, indole-3-carbinol.
	Absolutely.
	Good stuff.
	Very healthy stuff.
	Wow, I've been talking about this, you know, to fight dioxin.
	Absolutely, yes.
	So, do you mind if I eat some of these?
	No, go ahead.
	These are going to be strong.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Very good stuff.
	Go ahead.
	Keep talking.
	I'm going to munch away over here.
	We put a kit together for homeowners.
	So when you receive your kit, you'll have the mix that you need in the kit.
	You'll have the seeds and instructions.
	So you open the box, you open the bag, put your soil in your soil mix, plant your seeds in water, and you're ready to go.
	Nine days later, you'll have this.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	And what do you recommend for people to prevent any kind of mold?
	Sometimes sprouting operations can get mold.
	Do you treat the water with anything?
	No, we really haven't had an issue with molds.
	You know, as I mentioned with the tea, I would recommend they use compost tea.
	And if you spray them, it's going to control molds as well.
	Excellent.
	Actually, we found that we can control snow mold in grape vines.
	Really?
	Yeah, with compost tea.
	Wow.
	So it's really an amazing product.
	Wow.
	It's kind of like probiotics for plants.
	It is.
	It's probiotics.
	That's exactly what it is.
	Okay.
	So you have then...
	Show us you have some other products that you brought.
	I want to give people an overall idea of what you offer.
	I know you have different...
	Kind of grinds of the compost, but yeah, kind of walk us through that.
	So this is another product for a homeowner.
	We use this with cities to top dress your lawns with.
	This allows you to have a very healthy stand of grass and use 50 to 60 percent less water.
	Here, let me put it on for people to see this.
	Okay, this is called Seed Topper.
	There.
	Can you see that?
	Seed topper.
	Yes.
	So that has biochar in it.
	So what we recommend is that if you're a homeowner, you core-arify your lawn, over-seed it, and then top-dress it with that, and then treat it with tea.
	So talk to us about the biochar here, because you've mentioned it a few times.
	Yeah, I learned about biochar about 12 years ago.
	Scientists were in South America, in the Amazon, and doing digs, trying to find out where the villages were.
	And they came across areas where the soil appeared to be very dark and rich, and in some cases eight feet deep rich.
	Wow.
	And they didn't understand what was going on, so they took samples and brought them back to the United States to universities and discovered that the natives, thousands of years ago, were using a type of charcoal This has evolved to a point where it's creating a lot of benefits for our country.
	It's managing waste.
	And how they make this now is you can take a woody biomass material and put it in a chamber, which is zero oxygen, pressurized, and it's exposed to a process called pyrolysis, where it's cooked at very high temperatures.
	It doesn't burn, but what it does is it creates synthetic gas.
	The gas is scrubbed to produce clean electricity.
	And the byproduct is biochar.
	Now, this material has a great surface area.
	A teaspoon of biochar is a surface area of a football field, if you can imagine that.
	And this is called adsorption, correct?
	Yes, yes.
	And it increases cation exchange capacity, too.
	So nutrient exchangeability with your plants, it helps with that.
	It retains water as well.
	And this creates permanent structure in the soil.
	So they found this material in soils...
	That were treated 3,000 years ago.
	So it resists decomposition.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	So it's very beneficial.
	Can it also lock up certain pesticide and herbicide molecules?
	It can.
	It can hold on to heavy metals so they don't move.
	Oh, and heavy metals.
	Yes.
	Yep.
	So, yeah, we know there are heavy metals in all soils at some level because, well, we live on a planet where there's been a lot of pollution that's been falling out of the sky.
	But what you're saying is those heavy metals can be locked up into the biochar, thereby depriving those metals from the plant roots.
	Exactly.
	Yep.
	Wow, so it's a kind of remediation, but you're not taking the metals out of the soil.
	Right.
	Did you see about Hershey's announcing their chocolate bars?
	I did.
	They say they're going to remove the lead from their chocolate, which there's actually no way to remove lead from chocolate.
	You would have to do something like this to treat all the cacao fields to reduce lead.
	Yeah, there are enormous benefits that we're finding with this.
	We've had extensive university studies on it.
	It really does work well.
	It's very beneficial for farmers, especially farmers in areas that are having issues with droughts.
	Oh, yes.
	So, permanent conditioning of soil.
	So, when you have better soil structure, you have better water percolation.
	Oh, yeah.
	And when you have something in the ground that hangs onto the nutrients, that means reducing fertilizer needs.
	Well, this is really exciting.
	I haven't yet used your biochar.
	I'm starting to use some of your compost.
	I want to add this to it and play with that, too.
	But this is something that people there who are watching, they could add this to any garden.
	They could.
	Anything.
	We recommend, though, when you use biochar...
	You charge it with microbes.
	Okay.
	So you make a tea, so you'd make a tea with our tea mix, and then you would charge it, meaning you would spray it in and mix it in to allow the microbes to populate it first.
	I see.
	Under a microscope, you'd find this very interesting.
	We're basically creating mini-condominiums for the microbes to live in.
	I see.
	So when they're in there, then you have a protozoa that's coming around to eat them.
	They're hiding inside their little cave, right?
	Just like a coral reef, really.
	These are like survival bunkers for the beneficial bacteria.
	Probiotics, refuge bunkers.
	Absolutely, yes.
	Okay, that sounds awesome.
	And then how much of this do you put on after you mix it with the microbes?
	5% by volume.
	Of whatever you're mixing it into.
	Oh.
	Yep.
	So, not a lot.
	It's more than I was thinking.
	Really?
	Yeah, 5%.
	Some people do 10.
	I recommend 5%.
	Yeah, that seems like a lot.
	Yeah, it does work well, though.
	Wow.
	So, if you're putting in, like, as an example, in an athletic field, a school, or what have you, you know, when you put organic matter in the ground, just pure organic matter, it will decompose over time and go away.
	This will never decompose.
	Wow, so it's truly an asset that stays with the land for as long as you're there.
	It truly does, yeah.
	That's amazing.
	Yep.
	Okay, wow.
	All right, so, and you offer this in different sizes, because this is kind of a small package here.
	Yeah, these are just sample packages.
	Oh, okay, yeah.
	We do offer this in bulk sacks, one cubic yard bulk sacks, and coming soon will be two cubic foot bags.
	Oh.
	It will be available in as well.
	How do...
	Does it make more...
	Because I know shipping is a lot on...
	It is, yeah.
	...through any kind of shipping.
	Can people order enough to where they could get a pallet and get commercial shipping by the pallet, which is probably more cost-effective?
	They can.
	They can?
	They can.
	Yeah, we're set up to do that.
	We do have distributors in around Austin area as well, if some of your listeners are in the Austin area.
	We have a distributor in Leander, which is Enchanted Rock and Stone.
	And then we have Geo Growers and Dripping Springs also that's carrying our products.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	So that's just around Central Texas.
	On your website, does it list?
	It does.
	It does list.
	We put affiliates on our website.
	Okay.
	So you can click on and you can actually go into their websites and we have all of their products available for them as well.
	Okay, what if someone watching maybe runs a landscape supply company in another state and they want to carry your product?
	Can they become retailers for you, a distributor?
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, we encourage that.
	We want people to reach out to us because we'd like for landscapers to become more regenerative because these are all regenerative products and they're non-toxic products.
	Right.
	Especially if you're working in schools or in parks, we don't want the kids being exposed to the pesticides and herbicides.
	There's no need for it anymore.
	And the bio sludge.
	And the bio sludge, exactly.
	That's the thing.
	I mean, our audience is very well-informed, very sophisticated, but they know that if you go out and buy a lot of the So-called compost products from the hardware stores.
	It's recycled sewage.
	It's human sewage.
	Here in Texas, we have something called Dillo dirt.
	Dillo dirt is human sewage with a cute armadillo logo on it.
	You're buying a bag of crap.
	It literally is.
	And I mean, honestly, Mike, this is the reason why I actually got into this business originally was because on my family farm, I was poisoned by sewage sludge.
	Oh, really?
	And almost died.
	No kidding.
	At 17.
	And then had years and years of neurological disorders.
	Wow.
	So I chose a career path that I would be able to get involved with an industry that...
	It combats pollution.
	So that's why I studied waste management and then took it to the next level with soil science and composting.
	Are you seeing a lot of increase of interest in people who want to grow their own food now because of, you know, we had the food supply chain collapse over the last couple of years and now we have food inflation.
	Yes.
	Where this stuff...
	It's no longer just a hobby or an expensive hobby.
	This is kind of an investment in your own sustenance.
	You're absolutely right.
	We just had meetings with our church recently, and we're talking about getting all of our members involved at the church, and there's several thousand to get involved and start growing their own food.
	Because, you know, people that are aware, like we are, are aware that there are problems on the horizon, more than likely.
	Yeah, problems here now, too.
	Exactly.
	So we need to be prepared, and that's what this is all about, is getting people prepared so they can grow food at home.
	Alright, let me ask you this question, and I have the same question.
	Taking your compost, what do I need to add to that in order to grow plants in it?
	Depends what you want to grow in it.
	Okay, let's say potatoes.
	You need to mix it with some native soil.
	So you're going to mix it by 30% by volume with native soil.
	Oh really?
	Yeah.
	Obviously, you would test your native soil because you want to know what's in it.
	But yeah, you need sand silk, clay, and organic matter.
	That's what you need to make it work.
	And then I would recommend using tea after you do it.
	But yeah, that would work just fine.
	What about something like kale, just veggies?
	I would say that you're going to use a soilless mix, okay?
	Like a peat moss mix with some perlite in it and our product.
	We can provide all of the recipes as well.
	Oh, really?
	We'll have those available for people.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, can you let me know?
	Because the next thing I want to do is grow kale in your mix.
	Because, you know, I have the non-circulating hydroponic system.
	Yes.
	And I grow kale very successfully in there.
	That's just gangbusters.
	Sure.
	Sure.
	I want to see if I can grow kale in yours.
	And the thing that I can't grow in my suspended net pot hydroponic system, I can't grow potatoes, carrots, beets, root vegetables, right?
	Okay, sure.
	So I want to use your mix to grow root vegetables.
	Okay, yeah, we can help you with that, absolutely.
	Okay, I definitely want to do that.
	Potatoes.
	Potatoes, yes.
	Yeah.
	We've got to be potato gardeners.
	Yes.
	Potatoes are really, really important.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	To make it through.
	Yep.
	Totally with you on all of that.
	So have you shown us everything you have?
	You have more interesting stuff.
	We have another product here.
	This is like a bark replacing product.
	We call it C6. Pack mulch.
	Carbon-6?
	Yes, carbon-6.
	So this is also derived of the same material as all of these other products.
	So this is the parent material.
	So this goes on top of the soil.
	You can put it on top of rows for row crops, for side dressing in your row crops, but in and around your flower beds.
	So this, as it decomposes, feeds your plants.
	And it smells beautiful.
	It's nice and dark.
	It'll make your green really pop in your flower beds.
	Absolutely.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	So are you hearing from customers who are able to move away from a more chemical-based environment?
	Agricultural system, having success with your products, being able to reduce chemicals or eliminate them completely?
	Absolutely.
	Tell us about one.
	We work with farms all over the country.
	One in particular is in California, which has 27 acres under greenhouse.
	He's a Japanese grower.
	I've worked with him for a long, long time.
	He's been consistently moving away from using chemicals.
	He doesn't use pesticides anymore.
	So he's transitioning away from it.
	Does he use the foliar spray?
	He does.
	He uses a foliar spray.
	Yes, he does.
	Yep.
	Wow.
	Yep.
	So he uses that.
	He's been using our compost.
	He uses worm castings.
	Worm castings are something I would highly recommend.
	It's something that we're going to be offering really soon.
	Right.
	That's something coming soon.
	But yeah, I mean, when you're When you're supporting a healthy food web below ground, they're going to provide the nutrients the plants need, so you are able to start reducing the chemical needs over time.
	So the idea is saving the money, too.
	You know, we want to help our farmers.
	Yeah, this doesn't have to cost extra.
	It can actually cost less.
	Exactly.
	Because it's also improving yields.
	Let me ask you this, though, about the tea-making material.
	So those are living microbes.
	Yes.
	So there must be a shelf life.
	Like, you've got to get them into water in some period of time.
	You have to get them in...
	You have to apply it after 48 hours.
	I mean, before you put it in there, just getting the bag?
	No, they're pretty good.
	What's the shelf life of that?
	They have a good shelf life, actually.
	They live in the compost.
	As an example, the compost we have in Leander, that's been there for 11 years now.
	Yeah, but it's getting water.
	It's getting water.
	We actually inoculate it, but it does.
	They live in there.
	They have their own communities inside that organic matter.
	They'll live there for years and years.
	Absolutely.
	It's like a whole real estate development under that mountain pile of trees.
	They need oxygen and they need water, just like we do.
	So when you ship them to people, are the bags, do they have little holes in them for oxygen?
	Yes, they do.
	Okay.
	And then when someone gets it, they should just make sure they don't want to leave it out in the sun to dry out?
	Yeah, I would recommend not leaving it in the sun.
	Put it in a dry, cool place, maybe in the garage.
	I see.
	But it could last a year or a couple years?
	Yeah.
	As long as it's not being exposed to the sun because the bag generally will probably break down.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, it could last.
	Okay, well that's cool.
	It's kind of like wine.
	The older it gets, the better it is.
	And can people make a pit and put the compost in the pit and just kind of maybe add kitchen scraps to it and add some water, keep it going?
	You could do that, yeah.
	The microbes that are in the compost will actually eat kitchen scraps.
	You could do that.
	We're actually going to be offering, coming soon as well, is an at-home, under-the-counter cooker dehydrator, which allows you to take all your food waste, you throw it in there, you close the lid, hit a button, And open it up the next morning and you've got something that resembles compost.
	It's obviously high in nutrients because it was food.
	And you can blend it with your compost or feed it to worms.
	So you make your own fertilizer at home.
	I think this was featured on the Jetsons.
	Wasn't this called the Food Aracocycle?
	I think it probably was.
	We should bring that one back.
	The Food Aracocycle.
	So you take your banana peels and your onions and you hit a button and it chars them and dries them?
	It just cooks them and dehydrates them and it grinds it all up.
	Oh, and it grinds it?
	It grinds it as well.
	No way.
	It comes out looking like compost.
	That's crazy.
	Some of the companies have been calling it compost, but I have to tell them this isn't compost because it's not biologically active.
	It's sterilized.
	Oh, yeah, right.
	So it's sterilized.
	But it's, you know, nutritionally dense.
	And so when you mix it with your compost, it's just providing nutrition to your compost, to your microbes.
	Okay, I want to find out about that.
	Yeah, no, you can make your own fertilizer.
	All right.
	Fertile Racco Cycle 2.0 coming.
	We'll get one for you, yeah.
	All right.
	Very cool.
	All right.
	So where do people start with all of this?
	Let's say that It's springtime here in the Northern Hemisphere.
	It's April.
	It might be a little late to start where we are in Texas for some people, but in different parts of the country, it's a great time to start.
	What should people be doing to keep it simple?
	Home gardening, you know?
	Well, I think that they should be getting their seeds ready.
	I think that they should be buying seeds and seed trays and getting their seeds started.
	In preparation for moving it into their gardens.
	So thanks for bringing that up, Kevin.
	ArcSeedKits.com, they are a sponsor of ours, but they have heirloom, you know, non-GMO seeds, and they have them in these packs, and I think if you use discount code RANGER, I think they give you I think it's 10% off.
	I'm not sure, except they have things that are already discounted where that doesn't apply.
	Anyway, arkseedkits.com.
	Inside here, you can feel it.
	It's packed with garden seeds, you know?
	It is.
	It's heavy.
	I don't know how many...
	Yeah, it's...
	And they don't get their seeds from China either, so...
	Yeah, lovely.
	That's a good place to start.
	I just want to give them a plug.
	Is there a variation of different type seeds in here?
	Yeah, they have different kind of kits.
	They've got, you know, home garden kits.
	They've got more survival-oriented kits.
	It's all on their website, but this is a great company to work with.
	Absolutely.
	I interviewed the founder there, too.
	But whatever seeds people get, what should they start with in terms of your products?
	We would start with our soil conditioner.
	The soil conditioner?
	Yeah, we'd start with soil conditioner and then we would also use the seed topper and top dressing product.
	Oh, okay, the topper.
	So is this the most nutrient-dense product that you have?
	I would say that, yeah, it's probably the most nutrient dense.
	Now, you can plant directly into that material with seeds.
	So you could put this in a seed tray and plant your seeds in the seed tray and they'll grow.
	As a starter?
	Absolutely.
	Wow.
	As a starter, it works very, very well.
	Okay.
	In fact, that's the farming in California.
	That's what they use the product for is starting seeds.
	Really?
	Yep.
	But then after the seeds start, you'd want to transplant them into a larger pot.
	So the important thing when transplanting anything so that you avoid transplant shock is that in the pot you transplant it into, you use a similar product, which would be our soil conditioner.
	So you would condition it with some sandy loam soil, because the same microbes will exist in the soil conditioner that do in the seed topper.
	I see.
	So the plant feels like it's in exactly the same environment, so you're not going to have transplant shock.
	Okay.
	You don't want microbial civil war.
	Exactly.
	Two different tribes of microbes fighting with each other.
	They do fight with each other, yeah.
	Good thing these guys have the bunkers.
	They need the bunkers for the Civil War.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	Well, speaking of that, so if people put these products in their bunkers, right?
	So actually stockpiling this stuff.
	You could.
	I kind of asked you this question before, but like the soil topper, can you just...
	Could someone buy a thousand pounds of that and just...
	Put it away for a rainy day.
	They can, yeah.
	They could actually buy it in a bulk sack, a one-cubic-yard bulk sack.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	It's delivered on a pallet.
	The giant, I think those are called Gaylords, too, aren't they?
	Yeah, they're called Gaylords.
	Gaylords.
	Or super sacks, yeah.
	Okay, yeah.
	That would be the best way.
	And that way they have it and they can use it when they need it.
	Very cool.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Wow.
	Well, this is really exciting.
	I'm sorry to kind of nerd out on you here.
	Oh, that's okay.
	I wish I wasn't covering any financial news, any political news.
	I would love to just grow food and grow plants all day, but other things intrude into our lives.
	But this is the most fun, is growing plants and growing sprouts and making smoothies.
	And the resource that you have here, because I care about clean food, this is amazing because it's wild-crafted compost and compost tea and everything.
	It's fun.
	It is.
	It's fun to make compost tea.
	And you can teach other people around you about it.
	Exactly.
	Share it with your neighbors and friends.
	Yeah.
	It doesn't really take much.
	I mean, like I said earlier, we can provide you with a whole kit.
	If you have your own bucket, we can provide you with the pump and the hoses and the mix.
	So you have that all together as one thing, like here's the compost tea kit minus the bucket?
	Yes.
	But then people have to drill a hole and put in the spigot?
	Yeah, they'll have to drill a hole.
	We'll provide the spigot for them.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, so that's pretty much, they have to drill a hole there, and then in the lid they'll drill a hole and there's a little hook.
	They put it underneath so that the bag will immerse into the liquid.
	Or they can buy it with the bucket.
	Yes, they can buy it with the bucket.
	Absolutely.
	Well, if people can't drill a hole, they're really in bad shape anyway.
	If they can't drill holes, they're in trouble.
	You're in trouble, yeah.
	If you think drilling holes is hard, try growing food.
	In any case, no.
	Our audience is super capable.
	They'll be all on top of this.
	All right.
	What else do people need to know that I've neglected to ask you about here?
	I think one of the most important things about our company is that we are giving back to help veterans and adults with disabilities.
	I've been dedicating the last six years of my life to helping those who've served our country and are standing up for our freedom.
	And that's why we call it Patriot Green because we're patriots.
	And so 10% of all of our sales go back to helping veteran causes.
	We're also giving jobs to them as well.
	So when they're returning home from service, we have veterans that have a lot of skills.
	Absolutely.
	They can be electronics experts, they can be equipment operators or mechanics.
	They have all these various skills and they come home and they have a tough time finding a job.
	That's right.
	So we want to give them jobs, give them purpose, give them new careers.
	Sadly, 22 a day are killing themselves, our veterans.
	It's just unimaginable.
	It's just terrible.
	So we want to give them a hand up.
	Well, I'm so glad that you do that.
	And that's a major donation.
	You said 10%.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	Well, and hence the name, patriotgreenproducts.com.
	Yes.
	That's the website.
	Folks, you can check that out.
	So here's what I'm going to do, Kevin.
	Okay.
	I'm going to take your advice on the compost that you already gave me.
	I'm going to mix it with my own soil and I'm going to grow potatoes and carrots and kale and things like that.
	Right.
	And you tell me what recipe to follow.
	I'll follow it.
	All right.
	And then I'm going to bring those bins.
	I'm going to do those in these bins that we have that I do the hydroponics in.
	I'm going to bring those bins in here and show people the results.
	Okay.
	Over the next like 90 days.
	Absolutely.
	How about that?
	Yeah.
	Love it.
	Okay.
	And then maybe we can bring you back and we can harvest potatoes.
	Together.
	Yeah.
	And we can make like mashed potatoes or something.
	We might need a sink or something, but we make some french fries here.
	That'll be fun.
	That'll be fun, yeah.
	So you just let me know what to do.
	I'll follow that and share what I'm finding with people.
	Okay.
	And here's another big issue that people are freaked out about right now.
	mRNA in the food supply.
	Yeah, I heard that.
	Now, I know that that's mostly animal products, right?
	So the animals are being injected with mRNA vaccines starting now.
	It's happening now.
	And there's no requirement to alert people about that.
	So you might be going to the grocery store soon and buying beef or chicken or pork or chicken eggs or whatever, hot dogs, and it might have, you know, it's from animals that have been injected with these mRNA, you know, gene-altering vaccines.
	It seems to me like they're going to expand that into everything, not just animal products.
	They could put it in celery at some point, right?
	They could do RNA interference technology in grocery vegetables or fruits.
	This is one more reason to grow your own food, isn't it?
	It really is.
	It really is.
	They won't be able to do it with certified organic foods.
	Exactly.
	So I would recommend if you are going to buy food at the grocery stores, buy certified organic food.
	Now, when you go to a restaurant, that's going to be an issue.
	Yeah.
	But none of our products will ever have any of that in it.
	Of course.
	And so we recommend that you also...
	Go to farmers markets.
	Yep.
	Farm to table programs, CSA programs, yeah.
	Start a CSA program in your own community.
	Let me mention something else that I think is on a lot of people's minds because of East Palestine and the dioxin fallout that is happening there.
	The EPA ran some dioxin tests, and they confirmed there's dioxin fallout in that area.
	And you probably know because you listen to my podcast that we're purchasing dioxin testing.
	It's a gas chromatography interface from one of our triple-quad mass spec instruments.
	So we're going to be testing foods for dioxins.
	I'm told we're going to find dioxins in all animal products, but not necessarily veggies.
	Really?
	Yeah, because it doesn't bioaccumulate in the veggies.
	There could be trace amounts on the fallout, but the bioaccumulation happens when the cows eat the grass that has the trace levels.
	So it might go from femtograms to picograms or nanograms up in the cow's milk, for example, or in the cheese.
	It can go into micrograms, much higher concentrations.
	However, since dioxins aren't the only thing out there, there's a lot of fallout of chemtrails.
	What's fallen out of the sky, right?
	It's another reason to grow your food in clean soil and also to consider growing it in a greenhouse, right?
	Absolutely.
	And interesting you mentioned about the chemtrails because probably 15 years ago in California, we're doing tons and tons of lab work on compost and it kept coming back with Very, very high levels of aluminum in the compost.
	And I was working on a park project and the lab tech said to me, well, I can't recommend this compost because the soil that you're going to amend with it is high in aluminum.
	And I said, where's all this aluminum coming from?
	And he said, well, it's prevalent in California soils.
	And I said, but, you know, I understand chemistry enough to understand that there's no way that this aluminum is inside the plant.
	There's no way that it was bioaccumulated inside the plant because the soil would have been so acidic to make the aluminum get inside the plant.
	It was on the leaf surfaces.
	Well, I mean, see, that's interesting.
	I don't know, but I mean, we definitely, we see high aluminum in everything.
	Right.
	Food, compost, you name it.
	It's only a question of how much.
	Sure.
	Right?
	I mean, even your compost has some level of aluminum because it is in soil, but it's a lot lower than other, you know, polluted compost, let's say.
	But it is everywhere.
	From the spray, though, because, you know, I was thinking about where does the compost...
	Where is it originating?
	And it's from tree trimmings and things that have been exposed to the sprays.
	True.
	So it gets on top of the leaves and then they cut it, take it to a compost facility so it's in there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, good point.
	And, you know, we've interviewed Dane Wigington.
	I'm sure you've read it in his interviews.
	Yes, I've watched that interview, yeah.
	And he talks about that, the aluminum spraying, the chemtrails, and the fallout and the alteration of the soils to the point where the young tree seedlings cannot survive now in the region where he lives in California.
	There are no young trees.
	Toxicity issues.
	Which means that the current trees that are still there, like that's the last generation of those trees in California.
	Yes, it's sad.
	Very sad.
	I mean, it's like eradication of life on our planet.
	Yeah, it's them trying to control the climate.
	Yeah, and weaponizing weather also.
	One more reason, folks, to take charge of your own food.
	Again, you hear my podcast, but the reason I got backyard chickens is just so that I could force myself to learn how to raise chickens and care for them and harvest eggs and protect from predators and do all these things.
	Because I knew there's going to come a day when that's a life-saving skill.
	Absolutely.
	And I think the same thing is true in plants.
	You know, folks, we all need to learn how to grow plants and how to harvest our own food.
	If we don't, you're going to be behind the curve.
	There's going to be a day where, you know, the grocery store shelves are empty and you're sitting there going, okay, whoa, pull the seeds out of the closet and start planting them.
	And you're already behind the curve at that point.
	There's a lot to learn in this.
	That's why microgreens are really good because they only take nine days to grow.
	True.
	And it's pretty difficult to make a mistake.
	If you use the wrong mix, you could make a mistake.
	But you can harvest this every nine days.
	Yeah, true.
	And it's preventing you with some nutrition.
	This stuff can keep you alive while you're planting seeds of other stuff.
	And then by the time you can harvest potatoes, you're going to be sick of microgreen salads.
	Mike will give you his smoothie recipes.
	Yeah, you're going to have to.
	Because if you eat broccoli sprouts every day as all your food, you're going to get sick of it real fast.
	No kidding.
	It's great on top of things, but you've got to get some carrots and potatoes.
	Real vegetables.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Some people out there shoot a wild hog, you know, and have like wild hog sausage with their sprouts, you know?
	Yes, sir.
	At some point.
	Okay, well, what are you growing in this, by the way?
	Do you do much gardening yourself?
	I'm like the mechanic that doesn't fix his own car.
	He's too busy helping everybody else.
	The truth is, actually, I built a raised bed garden in our backyard.
	Yeah, we're growing multiple vegetables right now, and they're in seed trays in preparation for going into our raised bed garden.
	So we're getting ready right now.
	Okay.
	And we store food.
	A lot of food.
	So you're hands-on with this stuff, too.
	Yes, hands-on.
	Absolutely.
	I love it.
	It's really good.
	It is fun.
	It's fun.
	It's hard work, but it's good therapy, too.
	You feel great after doing it.
	100%, yeah.
	You have contact with the soil, you're watching things sprout, and then you're getting to eat live foods, get to enjoy all the health benefits of all these nutrients.
	It's amazing.
	Nothing more exciting than seeing that little sprout come out of the soil.
	Oh, I know.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	From a little dead seed.
	100%.
	Yeah, it's amazing stuff.
	Well, okay.
	Look, I want to thank you for what you're doing and for giving us this demonstration.
	The website, folks, is Patriot Green Products.
	And I just want to explain to people, again, as a disclaimer, this is not a sponsored segment.
	What you've given me is some free compost and Maybe you'll give me some more, which is fine, but that's it.
	So there's no payment here.
	We're not an affiliate.
	We don't earn any percentage of sales or anything like that.
	But I think that Patriot Green Products has solutions that can help you grow food and make it clean.
	I think this is a critical skill for where we're going.
	Absolutely critical.
	So I want to wish you the best success.
	Thank you.
	Your website's going to get hammered after this interview goes live, by the way.
	That's a good thing.
	We'll be ready.
	We have a whole team ready now.
	Okay, they better be.
	They better be ready.
	And then, folks, if you're watching, take it easy on his team.
	You know, have some patience because it's springtime.
	Everybody's going to want these products.
	So just, you know, Give them some time to answer the phone, return emails, things like that.
	But if you can get this into the hands of thousands of people who are watching this, you're going to help create a clean food revolution across America.
	That's what we need.
	Amen to that, yeah.
	And as I mentioned, we have...
	We have partners in Florida, and we have partners in California, so we've pretty much got the whole country covered for supply, so we're in good shape.
	Okay, so then I want to invite you back in a couple of months.
	I'm going to start the Kale.
	How about this?
	I'll do kale and carrots.
	Okay.
	And let's see with using your recipe and your material.
	And then I'll bring the bins in when you come back.
	Okay.
	And you know what?
	I'll take pictures along the way.
	Okay.
	So we can show people what it's looking like.
	And let's just put it to the test.
	How about that?
	Let's do it.
	All right, that sounds good, Kevin.
	Thank you so much, Mike.
	I appreciate you.
	Thank you, Kevin.
	Appreciate you.
	All right, thanks for being here.
	Yeah, my pleasure.
	Thank you, and thank you to your audience.
	Absolutely, yeah.
	Our audience loves this.
	Okay, so folks, the website again is PatriotGreenProducts.com.
	If you want some garden seeds, ArcSeedKits.com.
	They are a sponsor.
	Use discount code RANGER to save money off of that.
	Get your seeds, get your compost, get your water supply all squared away.
	Get your greenhouse going.
	I mean, we're either going to have to grow food or go hungry, I think.
	And wait until they have a digital wallet system, Kevin, where they limit your food purchases.
	That's unbelievable.
	They've done that in Venezuela.
	Yes.
	Yeah?
	Yeah, they want to do it here as well.
	They do.
	They do.
	You'll be limited to like a starvation diet.
	You know, oh, 1,500 calories a day.
	That's all you get.
	And it'll be processed garbage calories.
	Absurdity.
	You have to grow nutrition if you want to live.
	Absolutely.
	That's what I think.
	And it's not that difficult.
	True.
	So we'll give you the guidance you need to make it happen.
	Excellent.
	All right.
	Well, thank you again.
	Thank you again.
	And thank you for watching.
	Mike Adams here on Brighteon.com.
	And I love this stuff.
	This is like, I'm like a kid on a playground with all this stuff.
	This is amazing.
	I can't wait to put all this to use.
	And I hope you join me in that.
	Let's grow food like crazy this year, okay?
	Thanks for watching again.
	Mike Adams of Brighttown.com and Kevin Fretz from PatriotGreenProducts.com that also supports veterans.
	Thank you for watching.
	God bless you.
	Take care.
	Thank you.
	Alright, for this segment of the show today, we're going to go into some solutions.
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	We have bank failures that have already happened.
	We have the culture wars happening in the United States.
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	They just indicted President Trump to try to prevent him from winning the election in 2024.
	We have insolvent banks.
	We have massive withdrawals from the banking system, record withdrawals.
	Rising interest rates.
	Oh, and by the way, here's a story from CNBC.com.
	Look at this.
	Inflation's inventory gluts are here to stay and will hit the bottom line in a weaker economy.
	You know, the jobs numbers came in and they were bad.
	Supply chain is suffering this inventory glut, which means retailers are sitting on too much stuff that they can't sell to people because people have run out of money.
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	I think they were up slightly last month, but they're still falling quite a lot from a year ago.
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	It doesn't even cost you anything.
	The first one is my free book called Resilient Prepping.
	If you go to the website resilientprepping.com, you can download this entire e-book for free plus this printable PDF transcript.
	Now, in that transcript, in that PDF file, there's a chart.
	You need this chart.
	Trust me.
	I'll tell you about it.
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	Subscribe now.
	That subscribes you to our Natural News email newsletter, which you're probably already subscribed.
	So it won't subscribe you again.
	It'll just keep you subscribed.
	But anyway, when you download this, you're going to find in that PDF three columns that describe how you need to prepare in each of the major areas, i.e.
	shelter, self-defense, food, emergency medicine, money, forms of exchange, and so on.
	But in three different columns, three different scenarios.
	One is high-tech.
	Where the power grid's working.
	You know, you can still get diesel fuel and gasoline.
	Where the internet works, cell towers work, all that.
	Okay, that's high-tech prepping.
	And that's fine.
	You can have solutions that work, like your home surveillance system for security or whatever.
	But then I have another column, which is called low-tech, which means in that scenario, the power grid has failed.
	So you don't have cell towers.
	You can't call 911.
	You don't have refrigerators that function or freezers.
	At that point, you've got to operate off of solar and solar-powered systems like the EcoFlow solar generators.
	And then we have the no-tech column.
	In the no-tech column, it assumes that we have a near-total collapse of the infrastructure of society, which is what the globalists are trying to carry out in the United States.
	In the no-tech column, It assumes we have no fuel refineries functioning.
	We have no transportation.
	There's no farming, at least mechanized farming that's operating.
	And in that scenario, the population collapse of the United States would be about 90%.
	And as that collapse takes place, there would be mass chaos and violence and civil war.
	I mean, it would just be a horrible scenario.
	But I give you the answers of how to prepare in all the key areas for each of those three scenarios.
	So that's all free, resilientprepping.com.
	You can access it now.
	You can download the audio files.
	You'll get the MP3 files.
	You can listen whenever you want.
	The second resource that's also free is another one of my e-books or audio books, survivalnutrition.com.
	And this is being turned into a published book, by the way.
	A mainstream publisher has picked this up, and this is going to come out maybe late this year or early 2024.
	Not sure exactly, but it's coming out.
	In the meantime, you can download this for free.
	You get the full eight hours of audio MP3 files, plus a PDF transcript and a reference guide.
	Now...
	Why does this matter?
	Because this teaches you how to grow food, how to store food, how to use natural medicine, how to use essential oils, how to grow herbs and use them to make natural antibiotics, how to keep yourself alive, and how to enhance your cognitive function and your physical function and your immune function in a time when people are dying all around us.
	In a collapsed scenario, people will be dying from exposure to sewage.
	They'll be dying from, frankly, diarrhea, dehydration, cholera exposure will kill a lot of people.
	Other people will die from common infections.
	Because they don't know that you can get antibiotics from plants.
	You can grow antibiotics.
	You can...
	Well, Mother Nature makes them.
	You just need the right seeds, the right herbs, and knowledge of how to grow things.
	Which is why, you know, I love to promote companies that have green compost, right?
	And solutions for growing plants.
	And also, don't forget about this.
	ARC Seed Kits right here.
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	These are the free resources, survivalnutrition.com and resilientprepping.com.
	Take advantage of those, a lot of great information, and I will do my best to produce more audiobooks Now, let me give you some other vendors of some products that I recommend and that I use that have discount codes for our audience.
	And these are sponsors.
	So the first one is ShieldArms.com.
	I've got them up on my screen.
	And Shield Arms makes foldable AR-15s.
	Before the ATF went crazy, they had foldable AR-15 pistols, but now it's just rifles, and they have a patented folding system here that is really outstanding, and if you use discount code RANGER, you can save $75, or no, I'm sorry, I think it's $100 off of one of these rifles.
	That's at shieldarms.com, the SA-15 folding.
	So why do you need a folding rifle?
	Well, you may need to transport it in a more compact manner.
	Of course, I always say keep it legal.
	Follow your local laws.
	I don't want to encourage anybody to do anything illegal or unethical.
	But there are ethical, moral reasons why you may need to transport an AR-15 in defense of your community, defense of your family, your property, your life.
	Even your local sheriff's deputies may need help at some point if the zombie apocalypse gets bad enough.
	So yeah, you might need a folding AR-15 setup and Shield Arms is where you can get that.
	The next company worth mentioning is HopLiteArmor.com.
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	Discount code RANGER gets you 15% or even 20% off some of these kits.
	I've interviewed the founder of this company, Lyman Bishop, a couple of times.
	He's an engineer, a great patriot, an American.
	He designs these systems, and then these are manufactured in the United States.
	So hoplightarmor.com.
	If you want to get this armor at a discount, you're going to need it, I think.
	It's wise to have ballistic armor.
	Just think about how crazy it's going to get in the cities when the food stamps stop working, when the banks, the ATMs stop working, when the dollar collapses.
	Are you going to wish you had ballistic armor on that day?
	Oh, heck yes you are.
	Because, you know, there's going to be a lot of gunfire going crazy.
	Okay, the next website I want to show you is our sponsor, arkseedkits.com.
	That's A-R-K. And they have a prepper special here.
	Quarter of a million seeds.
	Look at that.
	If you use discount code RANGER, you can get discounts.
	I think it's free shipping off of some of these products.
	Not this one that you're looking at because it's already discounted.
	But look.
	High order volumes at this time.
	I wonder why.
	Everybody wants to grow their own food.
	So please expect 10 to 14 days for processing and shipping.
	Folks, that's going to get even worse after this video goes live.
	So have patience with these folks.
	The Arc Seed Kit founders are wonderful people.
	They're doing their best to try to get seeds out to as many people as possible.
	But everybody wants to grow clean food right now, and this is a smart way to do it.
	Of course, if you want to buy clean food already packaged and if you choose to support us, healthrangerrestore.com, let me show you a little bit of what we have in our freeze-dried number 10 cans here.
	Of course, there's some mango, there's some powdered milk, there's some kale, and there's some blueberries.
	Blueberries have natural anthocyanins.
	They're high in vitamin C, you know, milk.
	The shelf life on this is many, many years, by the way.
	And we have coconut oil up top.
	You can see there.
	Coconut oil is also an excellent product for lubricating and cleaning firearms, believe it or not.
	Yes, if you take coconut oil and a little swab, you can clean your Glock with it.
	And then you can lube your Glock with coconut oil, believe it or not.
	So it's a multi-use item and it can be used for applying first aid herbs.
	You can make a salve.
	This is actually covered in my book, Survival Nutrition.
	But get yourself some coconut oil.
	Even if you don't get it from us, just get some coconut oil and stockpile it because it will last a very long time and it has a multitude of uses.
	Now, the next company I want to tell you about is DawsonKnives.com.
	You know, we love Dawson Knives.
	And we have some amazing news coming out soon because we are, in fact, partnering with Dawson Knives on some custom designs that are just freaking amazing.
	Here we go.
	John Roy there showing you how the knives are made at Dawson Knives.
	If you use discount code Ranger, I think you're going to get a discount.
	It might be 10%.
	It might be 15%.
	I'm not sure.
	Just try it.
	These are the best made knives that I've ever seen.
	They're not cheap.
	There's a wait time, and they often have no inventory, but that's the case with a lot of quality items.
	Finally, I want to show you this company, Crave Kicker.
	And they're not a sponsor, but they are agreeing to donate some of their products to addiction treatment centers that use natural approaches to treating nicotine addiction, sugar addiction, and even opioid addictions.
	Now, I'm not claiming that this Crave Kicker product is a medical treatment for opioid addiction.
	I'm not saying that at all.
	It's not my company.
	I don't have any financial involvement in this company.
	But I know these people.
	I know they've worked very hard.
	To make these products available, and soon, I understand, they're going to be available on Walmart.com.
	There's several different flavors here, and these products can help you kick, let's say, sugar habits or nicotine habits.
	In fact, smokers use this a lot.
	And if you use discount code Ranger, I think you get 10% off.
	It might be 10%, it might be 15%.
	Hey, I can't remember what all the discount codes, what all the different percentages are, so anybody I mention, just try the code Ranger and see how much of a discount you get at these different places.
	So So there you go.
	The free resources, resilientprepping.com, survivalnutrition.com, and then the product-oriented resources, but all discounted.
	And let me tell you often how this works with these people, like Crave Kicker, for example.
	They don't pay me anything to promote their product.
	The way this goes down is I say, look, you've got to give a discount to our audience and send me some samples.
	So they're sending me some samples.
	There are some here in the studio that we're going to share with our employees here, have some of these samples.
	In fact, one of our employees is a smoker.
	So I'm going to talk to him about using Crave Kicker to maybe stop smoking if you want to.
	So these companies will send us free product for evaluation, and they'll give us a discount code for our audience, and that's it.
	They don't pay us anything.
	Except Arc Seed Kits is a sponsor.
	They do actually pay us money, but these other ones, they don't pay us anything.
	It's a different kind of arrangement.
	So I just want to be clear about that.
	I'm happy to promote companies like Sogo Snacks, for example, S-O-G-O, SogoSnacks.com, that are doing, they're American companies, they're doing really great things.
	They have products that can help you prepare.
	Sogo Snacks has the meat sticks, and from time to time they run discounts.
	I don't know.
	They may not be running a discount right now, probably not because they're super busy, but you can always try Discount Code Ranger and see if that works.
	Bottom line, I strongly encourage you to prioritize your spending.
	Don't overspend in any one area, but make sure you cover each of the areas that's critical.
	You've got to be able to grow food.
	You've got to be able to defend yourself.
	You have to have some supply of stored food to get you through the transition To the point where you're growing enough food to feed yourself, which is actually difficult to get to.
	You've got to have seeds, right?
	You've got to have knowledge.
	You've got to have emergency medicine.
	You've got to have iodine in case there's nuclear fallout.
	There are certain critical things that each of us must have.
	And so I am happy to connect you with the companies that can offer many of those solutions.
	And in some cases, we offer them ourselves.
	In any case, I thank you for your support of us and also support of our sponsors or vendors that are offering discounts.
	This is how we all stay alive during this.
	We've got to navigate, I think, the most difficult collapse that the world has ever seen.
	Unless you want to count ancient civilizations that are no longer with us, that got wiped out by comet impacts or what have you, they're gone.
	This civilization may be gone.
	We are on the verge of total annihilation, civilization-level suicide.
	You know, we are living among a suicide cult of globalists who literally hate humanity.
	They want to annihilate the human race.
	They are taking down the infrastructure.
	They're taking down the power grid.
	They're taking down the food system.
	They're taking away human rights.
	They're destroying fertility with their hormone disruption molecules that are in the food supply.
	They're running chemtrails.
	They're running weather weaponization to destroy food crops to cause droughts and floods and tornadoes and hurricanes.
	They're doing everything in their power to try to destroy us and destroy humanity.
	I think they will fail.
	I think we will survive this.
	I think we will come back from this.
	But I also know, as I'm certain about this, there will be billions fewer human beings left alive on this planet after this globalist plan runs its course.
	We are going to see deaths of billions of people.
	And in the United States, that could be...
	It could be tens of millions of people who don't make it.
	It could be 100 million.
	It could be 200 million.
	It could be 250 million people, seriously, of Americans who do not make it.
	We could be down to less than 100 million remaining people in this country.
	But if that happens, you can rest assured that you and I will be among the survivors.
	We will make it.
	Because we have the knowledge.
	And so share this knowledge.
	It's not just about you preparing, but you teaching people around you how to prepare.
	You know, be the example.
	Grow some food so that people ask you, well, what are you doing?
	What is this?
	You're growing your own food?
	How does that work?
	Teach them about it.
	You take compost and soil and potatoes.
	You know, you cut up the potatoes and plant them and boom, you get more potatoes.
	How does this work?
	You know, a lot of people don't even know that stuff, amazingly.
	People don't know you can have backup communication systems that work when the cell towers don't work.
	People don't know you can use solar panels.
	You can gather energy.
	You can store it.
	In fact, I even forgot to mention here at our sponsor, SAT123.com, here they are, the EcoFlow Power Storage Devices.
	I think every household should have one of these devices because you can gather electricity from the sun when the power grid is totally down, and then you can use this electricity to charge small electronic devices, flashlights, batteries, mobile phones, what have you, night vision equipment, or laptops.
	Keep your life viable by taking advantage of things that are available right now while you can still get them, while your money still has value.
	Because a day is coming, mark my words, a day is coming when your money will no longer function.
	It won't be accepted.
	It won't be good.
	You won't be able to get money out of the banks or no one will process credit card transactions.
	Now, if there's an internet still functioning, guess what?
	Certain forms of crypto will still function.
	And we may see a lot of people actually resorting to certain types of crypto to buy, sell, and trade because maybe the mainstream banking system has cratered.
	But maybe crypto is still working.
	I can actually see that scenario happening because crypto is decentralized.
	It's actually way more resilient.
	It's nuclear bomb-proof compared to the banking system.
	If Russia nukes Wall Street, New York City, let's say, believe me, you're not going to have credit card transactions working.
	You're not going to have food stamps.
	But will Bitcoin still function?
	Yes, it actually will.
	And look, I'm no fanboy of Bitcoin.
	I've never told anybody to buy Bitcoin and you're going to earn a billion dollars and it's going to go to a million.
	No, I'm talking about the utility of the coins to be able to buy, sell and trade.
	Crypto is nuclear war resistant.
	If Russia nukes America, you'll still be, if we have electricity, if we have functioning bandwidth, you'll still be able to use crypto.
	And if all that is down, that's why you have silver.
	That's why you have silver and gold and garden seeds and ammunition and things that you can barter and trade, including your knowledge, your skill set.
	Hey, I know how to grow food.
	I know how to stitch up wounds.
	I know how to run security perimeter defense for a ranch or whatever.
	I have animal skills.
	I know how to take care of chickens.
	I know how to butcher a cow, whatever.
	Whatever skill set you have.
	I know how to mend clothes, and I have a sewing machine that doesn't need electricity.
	In my case, that's actually true.
	I actually do have a Singer sewing machine from 1959 that needs no electricity, that can sew through quarter-inch leather, by the way.
	I haven't used it yet, but I have it, and I know I can learn it.
	That's not going to be difficult to learn how to use an old sewing machine.
	But the point is, get yourself skills and get yourself equipment that will give you value in society after the collapse takes place.
	And the timing on this is, in my opinion, urgent.
	You need to get squared away.
	And having books, you know, physical reference books on the shelf, not just on your iPad or, you know, on your mobile phone or your Amazon account.
	Physical books that you can turn to, that you can read without electricity, that Amazon can't censor because they can delete books on, you know, Amazon Kindle devices.
	And they have deleted books before.
	So this is almost the last call for these things that I'm talking about.
	There's going to be a day coming soon where there's nothing left to say and we might not even be able to say it because there's no power grid.
	There's perhaps no ability to function.
	No server farm that even functions.
	Even our own server farm might be down.
	That day is probably coming.
	When that day is here, you won't see me here reminding you of anything.
	You'll be on your own, I'll be on my own, and we will be in full-time survival mode at that point.
	And at that point, what's the value of the dollar?
	Nothing.
	What's the value of goods that you have socked away for this rainy day?
	Oh, invaluable, almost unlimited value.
	So make sure that you have what you need.
	And do it now while the system is still marginally functioning.
	Banks are failing.
	They're failing overnight.
	The currency is failing slowly, but it's headed to zero.
	And we're looking at World War III, and we're looking at an attempt by the globalists to kind of foment a domestic civil war, a revolution, an uprising, a total chaos, especially in the cities.
	So your ability to get things done is a dwindling window of opportunity.
	Take advantage of it now while you can.
	And learn the skills while you can.
	We should all be growing food right now in the Northern Hemisphere.
	This is the time to grow food.
	I should be growing more food.
	I had planned to and I haven't yet given myself enough time to do that.
	But I will.
	I will grow something.
	Even if it's just a bin full of potatoes, I'll grow something.
	We all have to grow something.
	All right, now, coming up next, interview with Leo Homan, right here on the Brighteon Broadcast News.
	Leo Homan, whose books have been banned by Amazon, and he's got some interesting things to say.
	So enjoy that interview, and then that's going to be a wrap for today's broadcast.
	I'll be back with you tomorrow, right here on brighteon.com.
	Thank you for joining me today.
	Interview with Leo Homan, straight ahead.
	Take care.
	All right, welcome to today's interview with Leo Homan, who is an author, an analyst, an investigator.
	He's got a lot of books out there, and one of them, or actually more than one, are now being banned by Amazon.com.
	LeoHoman.com is the website.
	I really enjoy Mr.
	Homan's work, his columns.
	He's got critical stories.
	I think we've got to get into them with him today.
	Welcome to the show, Mr.
	Homan.
	I'm a fan of your work.
	We've never been able to speak before, so I really look forward to this.
	Welcome.
	Yeah, thank you for having me, Mike.
	Appreciate it.
	Happy to have you on.
	Your columns are very widely shared across alternative media.
	They are, I think, well-written, well-researched, of course, sometimes controversial, but, you know, what is it?
	I prefer the word provocative.
	Yeah, provocative.
	Okay, that sounds great.
	Some of them are provocative.
	But, you know, let's go to this headline you have here right now.
	U.S.-NATO-funded proxy war in Ukraine, fueling hatred and persecution of ancient Christian community.
	This is a great example of the kind of important story that you cover.
	Can you tell us about this story and what's going on with the Zelensky regime?
	Yeah, well, it's exactly the type of story that you won't see...
	Printed, posted, or published in the Western media right now, Mike.
	Why?
	Because it gives a side of the Ukrainian government that they really don't want Americans to be privy to.
	We're told that the Zelensky regime is a freedom-loving, democratic government that is having this Soviet invasion and dictatorship foisted upon it When the truth is that the Ukrainian government is no more democratic than the Russian government.
	And just one example of that is this article I posted this week on how Zelensky's government is treating the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.
	Now the Ukrainian Orthodox Church is interesting because it's been kind of in a schism, as they call it, with half of it continuing to be in...
	In alliance with the Russian Orthodox Church, and the other half breaking off.
	But even the section that continues to be in community with the Russian Orthodox Church, it's not taking orders from the Russian Orthodox Church.
	In other words, it's not like the Pope of Rome, you know, the Metropolitan in Moscow is not like the Pope of Rome, you know, giving orders Orders to the bishops in France or the United States.
	The Ukrainian Orthodox Church is what they call autocephalous, meaning it is self-determined.
	It makes its own rules and actions.
	But that's not good enough.
	The Ukrainian Metropolitan has even denounced the Russian invasion.
	That's not good enough.
	The Zelensky regime continues to put pressure on On this church, threatening to close down now its most holy site, which is the monastery near Kiev, Lavra, which is also known as the monastery of the caves.
	It's a very historic holy site for these Orthodox Christians, which if you know anything about that church, It is one of the oldest Christian communities in the world.
	But wait a second, Mr.
	Holman, I'm sorry to interrupt, but is this church saying something that Zelensky doesn't want to be said, or is Zelensky philosophically opposed to Christians and Christianity, or what's going on here in your view?
	This church has been going out of its way to say that we do not approve of the Russian invasion, but we will not cut off our community with the Russian Orthodox Church because of our historic ties with the Russian Orthodox Church.
	They've been joined for many, many centuries, even though they are autonomous in their own, you know, like I said, making their own rules and bylaws and whatnot.
	But that's not good enough.
	The Zelensky regime wants them to break off completely from all community and all ties with their Russian brothers.
	And that's what they refuse to do.
	And so the Zelensky regime is now threatening to close down their most prominent monastery, most historic monastery.
	And they have arrested the Metropolitan Pavel, who's in charge.
	He's the abbot in charge of this monastery.
	ankle monitor on him, they say, for at least 60 days while he's being, quote, investigated.
	Now, what is he being investigated for?
	They're threatening that he could be a Russian agent or a Russian spy, which you know what countries do to spies.
	So this is a very serious situation.
	And it's also, it's very frustrating that we, the American taxpayers, we are funding all of this because, of course, it's American money that is funding the entire Ukrainian It's paying all the payroll and more and paying for all the weapons, paying for Zelensky and all his mansions and billions of dollars.
	He's squirreling away somewhere, by the way.
	So this tyranny against Christians is funded by the United States taxpayer.
	That's Yes.
	It's not only dividing the Ukrainian religious community off from the Russian religious community, but it's also now dividing Ukrainians, because you've got the more secular Ukrainians who are being told that the nationalist position, right, is the U.S. position, which you and I know that's a false narrative.
	It's the globalists' It's the globalist narrative and the globalist position that this war is being funded by NATO, but that's not the way it's played in Ukraine.
	If you're not, you know, cheerleading the Ukrainian nationalist position and denouncing daily the Russians, you're somehow considered less of a Ukrainian by these secular Ukrainians or the Ukrainians that broke off completely from the Russian Orthodox Church and that schism that I mentioned.
	And so what they're doing is a lot of, it's a lot similar to what we saw the leftist modus operandi in many other countries such as South Africa.
	I remember when the white nationalist farmers, the white Christian farmers, were demonized in the media and then the Marxists were kind of attacking them at will and the government just stood by and watched these attacks.
	So even though the persecution doesn't come directly from the government, the government kind of turns its head and gives a wink and a nod while these thugs are doing the persecution.
	It happened in South Africa.
	Now it's happening in Ukraine.
	It's very divisive and it's all being funded by the U.S. taxpayer dollar.
	And then we have, of course, attacks on the church in America, but also in Canada.
	So, you know, in Canada, they're practically outlawing Christianity.
	And I hear there's a proposed new law in Canada, not on the books yet, where they're proposing a $25,000 fine for anyone who criticizes a transgender person.
	I saw that.
	If you offend a transgender person, like, oh, you didn't call me ma'am, it's ma'am!
	Boom, $25,000.
	Did you see that viral video, Mike, that came out this week from Vancouver, Canada, where a guy was protesting the transgender movement?
	He was just quietly holding a sign that And speaking to a reporter in a very calm tone.
	He was not doing anything provocative.
	He was not yelling.
	He wasn't, you know, threatening anything violent.
	And up come these transgendered, transvestites, men dressed as women and the makeup and the whole nine yards.
	And they start yelling obscenities at the guy while he's interviewing with this reporter, just calmly doing his interview, and they start saying, F you, F you, you're an effing piece of, you know what?
	And it gradually gets louder and louder, and they get closer and closer to the point where they're this far away from his face yelling these obscenities at him.
	And then suddenly, the main culprit, this guy with the long blonde hair and the makeup on, the female impersonator, he gets right up into the guy's face and then punches him.
	Wow.
	Takes him and then pulls him down to the ground.
	This guy, even though he had the appearance of a woman, he was quite burly and strong.
	And he just took the guy right down to the ground and several others then start beating him.
	The place is surrounded by Canadian police, Vancouver police.
	And they do nothing.
	They did nothing, exactly.
	Well, so we are now seeing, in fact, I'd love your analysis of this, with the Nashville shooting, of course, the transgender with a gun killed six, well, three students and three staff, I believe, of the Nashville Christian School.
	We are now seeing the rise of militant transgenderism And you just gave another example of the kind of transgender violence against a peaceful person who simply disagrees.
	Are we about to cross a tipping point where we're going to have, I don't know, transgenders with AR-15s just blasting away and mass-murdering Christians and burning down Christian churches, and the governments of the West will say, oh, that's fine?
	Well, I think the precedent has been set, right, with the Nashville shooting.
	And the reaction, Mike, to that shooting was very interesting.
	Number one, the first one to report that the shooter was transgender was NBC News.
	Now, NBC News is like the heart of the deep state media.
	They are on the leading edge of getting the message out that the globalists want.
	Whatever propaganda the globalists want, they are usually the leaders in getting that message out.
	So they were the first ones to mention this fact.
	Oh, this woman, by the way, identifies as transgender.
	And I thought that was interesting that it came from them and it came immediately.
	It's like they wanted that to get out.
	What I think is going on here is they're trying to provoke a response, a violent response.
	From somebody on the right.
	They would love nothing more than for a retaliation, somebody on our side of the political fence, you know, maybe some MAGA person or, you know, whatever, to go out to a gay bar or whatever and shoot up a bunch of...
	transsexuals, transgenders, whatever you want to call them, and then make a big, huge deal out of that.
	And that's why, you know, that these people need to be disarmed and everything, you know, on down the line.
	Right.
	So, so far our, our people have been very measured in their response.
	They've been highly critical, but they have not done anything remotely violent.
	And I think that tremendously disappoints these globalists.
	Well, you make a really important point there.
	And in fact, I think this provocation strategy is not only being used in the culture wars like you just described in the United States, but also to try to provoke Russia into an escalation of perhaps, you know, thermobaric warheads or even a nuclear attack or nuclear artillery of some kind.
	I want to ask you about that.
	But the West, you know, the...
	The leaders of the West right now in the Homeland Security, in the White House, in the culture wars, they are evil people and they project this evil onto those around them and try to convince others to commit the evil that they themselves feel in their hearts every day.
	They hate people.
	They want to murder people, but they want to play victims.
	So this provocation strategy seems to have...
	Really permeated the philosophy of these leaders in the West who are trying to use violence in order to oppress their political enemies.
	Does that make sense?
	It makes total sense.
	Mike, I think the ultimate strategy is to drive the United States into civil war.
	Wow.
	I think they've probably been disappointed that it hasn't already happened.
	If you think of all the provocations, both in actions and in rhetoric over the last two years...
	It's just unbelievable.
	And this is just the latest one with Nashville, the way they responded to it.
	And so, you know, World War III and Civil War 2.0 at the same time would probably be, you know, the biggest dream that they could have come true for America.
	And you ask, why is that?
	Well, America has more weapons than any other country by far, and they know that that's a fearful thing.
	Now, Joe Biden can say, and he can get out in front of the microphones and act like that's no big threat.
	Oh, you know, he thinks guns are just for hunting and target practice.
	Sporting, recreation, as he says.
	But the fact of the matter is the Founding Fathers put the Second Amendment in the Constitution for reasons that had nothing to do with hunting.
	And whenever we mention that, he mocks it and he says that, well, you're going to fight the government with your guns.
	You would need nuclear weapons, nuclear missiles and F-16s in order to do that.
	But that's all a lie, and that's just for the cameras.
	The truth is, they are afraid of Americans, armed Americans, and they need to find out a way to neutralize that.
	So what better way?
	And they're also paving the way, in my opinion, the Biden regime is acting as an agent of Of the Chinese Communist Party.
	Now, if the Chinese Communist Party really wants to conquer America, like it has stated in the past with that 1999, I believe it was, leaked message where they wanted to clean up America.
	One of the Chinese colonels said he wanted to clean up America with a biological weapon and then basically just come in and do mop-up We're good to
	go.
	Ranging from your common pistol to your AR-15, your AK-47.
	You can even get a fully automatic weapon in this country if you go through a thorough background check and pay a $200 tax stamp.
	So what better way for the Biden regime acting as an agent of the Chinese Communist Party to disarm America than to stoke a civil war Right.
	our guns and ammo on each other - Right. - before the Chinese invasion ultimately comes. - Well, this brings up then the obvious tactic If they can't provoke a civil war organically, so to speak, then they can plant a sabotage agent.
	Right.
	They can carry out a false flag.
	And, of course, they've done this before in many cases, but they can...
	I mean, there's this whole group out there, I forgot the name, that they pretend to be Trump supporters.
	It's all FBI agents wearing the khaki slacks and the shirts.
	It's all FBI. If they want to recruit somebody, I don't know how deep you go into conspiracy territory, Mr.
	Holman, but I think MKUltra was a real thing.
	The documents all exist.
	They can brainwash people.
	They can set honey traps for people.
	And they can send people out to carry out a murder.
	And what if they convince somebody who's been sheep dipped to go murder a transgender person, just like you said?
	It's a provocation, and the media runs the story.
	Oh, transgenders are subjected to genocide.
	We have to end all gun rights in America.
	I can see that actually, sadly, happening.
	Well, they've already set the stage for it.
	Exactly.
	Joe Biden said...
	Last week in a message from the White House on, I don't know if it was some kind of international transgender day.
	I don't know what the occasion was.
	Transgender Visibility Day, I think.
	As if we don't see enough rainbow flags already.
	Right.
	He literally said that the transgender community is under attack.
	capability to protect it from these attacks.
	Now, this was literally days after a transgender woman attacked a group of Christians at a Christian school.
	But it wasn't the Christians who was under attack.
	It was the transgender.
	So they completely flipped the script from what reality was.
	And all that does is now it has energized this transgender community to become even more radicalized.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I mean, it just, frankly, it looks like the tranny version of Antifa at this point.
	They took all the terrorism tactics from Antifa and just turned it over to the trans.
	And not to say that everybody in the trans community is a violent militant terrorist, but there is this radicalized wing of the trans community that clearly they are willing to pick up guns and just shoot innocent people and carry out mass murder.
	We already saw that.
	That's not a theory.
	Well, you know, I mean, until like about five years ago, the Right.
	You know, this is just a very recent phenomena where they're not only no longer mentally ill, they're special people, Dean, you know, who qualify for, you know, they're basically been painted as sainthood.
	Right.
	I mean, if you're transgender, you have elevated yourself to sainthood if you read some of these statements coming out of the White House, as well as the same type of statements coming out of Ottawa, the Canadian government under Justin Trudeau, similar in Western Europe.
	This is a global tactic to use these people just like they've used all sorts of other marginalized groups today.
	Mike, over the years, this is just the latest one.
	If they can get a coalition of the marginalized, they feel like they can somehow take down that element, that final, last, patriotic element of Christian America that is what's left of this country.
	I feel like it's a smaller and smaller remnant every year, but it's still there, and in their eyes, that is what's standing in the way of them achieving their goals, which are what?
	The World Economic Forum's Great Reset, global government, global digital currency, global digital ID system, the whole ball of wax.
	I completely agree with your assessment there.
	And of course, we are also under an active invasion.
	And this gets us to the other topic I wanted to ask you about.
	Your book called Stealth Invasion.
	I've got it up on my screen on barnesandnoble.com.
	This book has been banned by Amazon.
	Now, of course, people can buy it at Barnes& Noble.
	And obviously the book, the subtitle here, Muslim Conquest Through Immigration and Resettlement Jihad.
	Tell us about Amazon banning this book.
	What was the interaction with Amazon over this?
	And this isn't even a new book.
	It's been out for years.
	Why do they ban it now?
	Right.
	This was the first book-length documentation of the dark side of the federal government's refugee resettlement program, which has been with us since around the early 90s, and it's been growing steadily We've been under the radar ever since, under every single president, with the exception of Donald Trump, who paused it.
	But because the Congress was not able to do anything to rein in this program, it was just paused by executive order.
	And so on day one, when Biden took office, everything was reversed, and now they're making up for lost time, bringing in more than ever from nations that hate us.
	Places like Somalia, Sudan, Iraq and Syria, you know, and they come here with no intention of assimilating.
	By the tens of thousands in some communities being flown in under the cover of darkness, cities like Minneapolis have been completely transformed.
	We would not have Ilhan Omar as a member of the U.S. House of Representatives if it were not for the refugee resettlement program.
	That's how serious this topic is.
	People never ask or seem curious as to how did that area of Minneapolis-St.
	Paul get so many Muslims from Somalia?
	Did it happen organically?
	Did a bunch of African-American people African-Americans just suddenly convert to Islam?
	No, they were imported here from Somalia by our government in a totally legal program.
	This book is not really about illegal immigration, although it touches on that.
	It is about legal immigration and what it is doing to cities and states like Minneapolis, Minnesota, St.
	Cloud, Minnesota, where you've got the Mall of America.
	And I document what it's done to these communities.
	And many of them are like small meatpacking communities.
	They're not major cities like Minneapolis in most cases.
	And I document what has happened to these cities and towns, you know, from Idaho to Minnesota to Michigan to Kansas, Dodge City, Kansas, as an example, you know, completely transformed through this program.
	And it's all documented.
	It's all documented.
	Well, exactly.
	Documented in your book, again, Stealth Invasion is the book, and there can be good-faith immigration and bad-faith immigration, right?
	So you're talking about legal immigration with an intent to overtake society.
	Now, I'm married to an immigrant who...
	Became American, became assimilated, loves America, loves everything that we do here at Breitian.com.
	She's from Taiwan.
	Her family escaped the communists.
	They escaped with Chiang Kai-shek back in 1949, I believe it was, and the Taiwan people have been fighting against communism ever since.
	And I know immigrants from the Middle East who are Christians, even, for example, immigrants from Iraq who are Christians.
	They fled the regime in Iraq.
	They came to America, and they fight for America now.
	And those are the kind of immigrants that we want.
	But what you're talking about is there are these immigration programs that's kind of shoving it down your throat.
	We're not going to become American.
	We're going to conquer America.
	We're going to turn it over to something completely different.
	That's what Obama supported, and that's what Biden is supporting.
	Is that accurate?
	Absolutely.
	I myself am the grandson of immigrants.
	So, yeah, I have nothing against good, solid immigration.
	That's what made this country great.
	People coming here from often persecuted countries for freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of of speech, freedom of the press.
	These are the values that you've got to...we've got to have some core values, right?
	Or we're not a nation.
	The things that make a nation are you have common values and you have boundaries.
	You have borders.
	If you don't have those, you're no longer a nation.
	You end up with parallel societies, nations within nations, and these little parallel societies Are what I explore in this book.
	It's an investigative journalism book, Stealth Invasion.
	It's been out, like you said, since 2017 on Amazon.
	And suddenly, you wanted me to sort of go over what happened.
	About three weeks ago, Mike, I started getting emails.
	You know, one a day, one every other day at first.
	And I, you know, your book's no longer on Amazon.
	I tried to order a copy.
	Well, I kind of brushed it off at first.
	I thought, well, maybe they've just run out of books.
	You know, the publishers run out of books.
	In a matter of days, they'll, you know, ship some more to Amazon and it'll be back on there.
	But the emails started getting closer together and more numerous.
	And so finally, I got on the phone with my publisher, Post Hill Press, and, you know, I left a message and the president of the company calls me back about two hours later and he says, oh, I'm so sorry.
	I meant to...
	I call you over the last week or so.
	It's been on my mind to call you.
	The strangest thing has happened.
	He said, two of our books, and he said this has never happened in the ten years that we've been publishing thousands of books by conservative authors.
	Two of our titles got flagged by Amazon, and one of them is yours, Stealth Invasion.
	They said it violates their And it's considered by them to be hate speech.
	Okay, but I want to interject here.
	You can go on the Amazon.
	I mean, I'm sure we could do it right now.
	You can find grooming books for children.
	Teach parents how to push transgenderism, which involves genital mutilations and chemical castrations.
	You can find, essentially, books probably on pedophilia, Satanism, Pro-abortion books.
	So Amazon is happy to sell books that talk about mutilating children, murdering children.
	Not only that, Mike, you can go on Amazon.com and get you a copy of Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler.
	Exactly.
	So, you know, how is that not hate speech, but my finely tuned, documented, really conservative, I didn't go way out there.
	I could have said more in this book if I just wanted to be A book about conspiracy theories.
	But I reined it all in to only the stuff that I could prove with either documents or first-hand interviews with people who live in these inundated communities that we spoke about a second ago.
	And so the publisher forwarded to me the email that he received from Amazon, and I'm going to read it to you.
	It says this.
	Thank you for your continued patience while we looked into this further.
	Our content review team reviewed the title Stealth Invasion and determined that it includes content against our content guidelines.
	The primary purpose of Stealth Invasion is to paint Muslim immigration in the US and Europe as treacherous, violent, and as a weapon used by the Muslim Brotherhood to change the US from the inside.
	For this reason, the team is upholding their decision.
	Thank you very much.
	And for your feedback, you know, thank you, have a good day, basically.
	Wow.
	Yeah, that's all they said.
	Because that is what they're doing to Europe, too, by the way.
	I mean, they're invading the UK, France, they're taking over.
	This is what I'm going to share with you, and I haven't shared this with anybody else that I've interviewed on this topic, Mike.
	I think this is not a blow or an attempt to take a blow against my book, Stealth Invasion.
	I think it's more targeting me, the author, than the book.
	And the reason I think that is this.
	All of Robert Spencer's books about Islam are still on Amazon.
	I'm looking at one here, House of War, Islam's Jihad Against the World by Dr.
	G.M. Davis, Ph.D., I've got another one here, Decoding the Antichrist and the End Times by Mark Biltz.
	And this book portrays the coming Antichrist as a Muslim.
	Yeah, I'm bringing this up.
	I've got it on my screen.
	On Amazon.com, House of War, Islam's Jihad Against the World.
	There it is.
	Here's another one, Mideast Beast by Joel Richardson.
	It also proposes that the coming Antichrist will be a Muslim.
	Here's one...
	Edited by Andrew G. Bostom, a friend of mine.
	He is a medical doctor in Massachusetts, Dr.
	Bostom.
	Bostom, O-M, not O-N. And the title is The Legacy of Jihad, Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims.
	And it basically describes in excruciating detail the methods and brutal persecutions of Down through the ages of Christians by Muslim conquerors.
	And it says that the same thing will happen in America if we allow the current immigration trends.
	So here's another one by Ian Hirsi Ali, a former Muslim from Somalia called Infidel.
	You know, there's one book after another that's negative towards Islam sitting out there on Amazon right now that people can buy.
	So why did they target stealth invasion?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Because it's you.
	Because it's me, and I'm not even writing about Islam anymore, Mike.
	I've been writing about globalism.
	Now, that is another angle in my book.
	It takes the view that who is fomenting these...
	You know, dangerous immigration policies.
	It's globalists, people who want to erase borders, erase boundaries, erase, as we talked about earlier, common values that Western countries have.
	So there is that aspect, but also I think it's what I've written.
	I've written hundreds of articles, probably thousands, since that book came out in 2017 that go way beyond Islam is just one of the tools that these globalists use to wreck Western countries and make them ripe for, you know, basically, eventually a one-world government.
	Yeah, on that point, I'm glad you brought it out to a much bigger picture because we have, of course, massive illegal immigration across the Texas border.
	My studio is in Texas.
	I've had guests here in studios that actually operate on the border and they describe, and actually I have people that send me videos of busloads of illegal immigrants being prepared to cross the border just in El Paso.
	They just bring them across by the busload.
	There's nobody stopping these illegal immigrants.
	I don't know.
	But it seems like, Mr. Homan, they're setting up America.
	The media runs these psychological terrorism campaigns to try to pit black people against white people, transgender against non-trans, Muslims against Christians, everything, and even women, like trans against women now. and even women, like trans against women now.
	It's not even okay to be a woman anymore in America.
	And they're setting a stage for anarchy.
	It's like they want a purge event to happen in America.
	So they're provoking all this hatred and ideology that is about to be triggered.
	What do you suppose, I mean, if you agree with that assessment, what do you suppose that trigger might be?
	The trigger for social upheaval?
	Yeah, just like regional wars, people against people, maybe not nationwide, but locally.
	Right, right.
	I think it's death by a thousand cuts.
	They're going to use everything that they can and throw everything against the wall and see what sticks, see what can really be the trigger, because they don't know.
	They're not all-seeing.
	They're not omniscient.
	They don't know what will trigger the destabilization.
	In order to take over a country, you have to destabilize it first.
	Well, how do you do that?
	They've got all these different tools and methods.
	Pumping Islamic people into a Western Christian country is just one of them.
	Then they've got the Marxists.
	They've got the trans.
	They've got the race wars that they're trying to stoke.
	So, you know, we've seen them roll all of these out over the last, what, five years.
	It's really been remarkable.
	If you go back to 2020 in the summer of love, right, where they tried to stoke the whole racial thing.
	Well, now they've moved on to the trans, you know.
	Before that, it was the just regular gay issue, you know.
	The immigrants.
	It's one after another.
	So you mentioned destabilization.
	I think you've nailed it.
	That's the right word.
	And then there's demoralization, which also means sapping a nation of its morality.
	That's another way to look at that term.
	And, you know, it strikes me, this is what Yuri Bezmianov warned us about, right?
	Back in the 1980s, I think he did an interview with G. Edward Griffin.
	He said, yeah, there's a plan.
	We're going to destabilize your society.
	We're going to demoralize your society.
	And we're going to demonetize.
	And then we're going to conquer it.
	And it might take 30 or 40 years, but we're going to conquer your society.
	And you're going to become, you know, a communist regime.
	100% right.
	Right there, Mike.
	The last thing they want to do is have to take over America by military means.
	Not only would they have our military, highly sophisticated military to deal with, but possibly even more vaunting would be the American population, as we mentioned earlier, heavily armed with a mentality of freedom.
	And, you know, there is a mentality about being American.
	I talk to people in other countries and they tell me this and I've started paying more attention to it.
	And they're right.
	You know, Americans have an entitlement mentality.
	In this sense of entitlement, it's not necessarily a bad thing where they believe that their rights are given to them by God, not the government.
	OK, most countries don't have that culture or that history.
	And so they're much more easy, easier to corral in whatever, you know, direction you want to manipulate them.
	But Americans, you know, they were bamboozled by COVID, the whole pandemic.
	I was very disappointed that the American mentality did not sniff that one out quicker for what it actually was.
	But by the same token, because we failed, because our American freedom mentality and our freedom culture was not strong enough to withstand that onslaught of propaganda, I think the globalists are emboldened now.
	And so they kind of cracked the egg and they want to squeeze the rest of the yolk out of it.
	Yeah, and that's no yolk for sure, right?
	I mean, the American people have become largely oblivious.
	They've become apathetic.
	They've become historically ignorant.
	And if you don't know history, you're doomed to repeat it.
	But look, I want to give out your website again, leohohman.com.
	That's H-O-H-M-A-N-N, leohohman.com.
	And I want to ask you for your final thoughts here in this interview today, but just tell people, I want to say, look, your website is really fantastic.
	Here's a video about the history of Russia and Ukraine that looks important.
	Here's a story about Islamic call to prayer, loudspeakers in Minneapolis and so on.
	That is just the latest example, Mike, of what I warned about in the book.
	Once you allow these parallel societies of non-assimilated immigrants from nations that hate us to grow these communities in our cities, you end up with demands.
	It starts out with...
	Just asking, and it ends up demanding.
	They have the call to prayer over loudspeakers three times a day, blasted from at least 12 mosques in Minneapolis, but now that's not good enough.
	They want it blasted five times a day.
	And so this is the slow degradation of the culture where these parallel societies grow up.
	Oh, and you can bet if a Christian church wanted to broadcast over loudspeakers a prayer to Jesus, that would never be allowed in the city.
	No, not at all.
	They wouldn't even allow that request to come on their city council's agenda, I guarantee it.
	Yep, exactly.
	Well, Mr.
	Holman, this has been a really fascinating and somewhat scary interview.
	I mean, they're clearly trying to silence you.
	I think it's backfiring.
	You've had a lot of publicity because of your book being banned.
	And again, it wasn't even a recent book.
	So hopefully more people will read your website, consider what you have to offer.
	And any final thoughts before we wrap this up today?
	Just thank you for having me on.
	I've always been an admirer of your podcast and your website, your excellent website, Mike.
	You know, just keep up the great work.
	And yeah, people can check me out at leohohman.com.
	I've also got a substack, leohohman.substack.com.
	And they can also find me on Telegram.
	So I post throughout the day there as well.
	Oh, that's great.
	Is your Telegram channel just Leo Hohman?
	Yeah.
	If you search Leo Homan author slash journalist, I believe it will pop up.
	Okay, that's great.
	I didn't know about your Telegram channel.
	That's good to know.
	Well, you are welcome on Brighton.com, a free speech platform.
	If you ever want to post your own, even audio-only updates, just podcasts, feel free to launch a channel on Brighton and tell our team about it.
	Awesome.
	We'll help share the word, and I want to thank you for taking time today.
	I'm glad that they can't bring you down.
	If anything, again, it's backfiring, and then they're bringing you more attention.
	I've been energized by this, Mike, if you can tell.
	Yeah, exactly, exactly.
	You know, America is worth defending.
	American culture, the founding principles are worth fighting for.
	So thank you for all that you do.
	Thank you.
	All right, and thank you for watching, folks.
	Again, brighttown.com interview, but you can post it on other platforms as well.
	Feel free to do so.
	And if you don't mind, just give credit to Leo Homan and check out his website, leohoman.com.
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