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Feb. 21, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Situation Update, 2/21/23 - Urgent call for TOTAL EVACUATION of East Palestine...

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	Today, I'm joining Eric Capolino and calling for the complete evacuation, I'm joining Eric Capolino and calling for the complete evacuation, the emergency, immediate evacuation, the emergency, immediate evacuation of East Palestine because of the dioxin fallout that
	And there is a massive criminal cover-up in process right now.
	This is the worst ecological disaster in America's history.
	And as Eric Coppolino says in an interview that I'll run for you here, this is an act of eco-terrorism against America.
	So thank you for joining me today.
	I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
	And today is Tuesday, February 21st, 2023.
	I've got a lot to mention right up front here.
	I want to thank Steve Bannon for having me on his show.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	This was absolutely not a controlled burn.
	I told Steve Bannon this.
	I said that's a lie from the EPA. It's an uncontrolled burn.
	And in fact, this burn, because it was a relatively low temperature burn in an open ditch, produced new toxic compounds, which include dioxins, which were then just released right into the air, giant smoke cloud covering the whole region.
	That's not a controlled burn.
	A controlled burn would be a hazardous waste disposal incineration system that burns at very high temperature in an enclosed space again and releases nothing but carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen, and other elements.
	That would be a controlled burn.
	This was an uncontrolled outdoor release and actually a fire-induced generation or production of new toxic chemicals, dioxins, that were released into the environment and that are crazy, extremely, extremely toxic.
	In fact, I'm going to quote from the EPA here.
	Right, from EPA.gov.
	I'm going to quote from the EPA in case anybody doubts this, because this is just straight-up basic chemistry.
	So anyway, I want to thank Steve Bannon for having me on and allowing me to address this issue, and I called for the evacuation of this town on his show.
	Secondly, I'm going to be on today with Alex Jones on his show.
	A couple of things going on during the third hour of his show, which is 1 to 2 p.m.
	Central.
	At least this is the current plan.
	Always subject to change because of, you know, events.
	But I plan to be on with Alex during that hour, and we're seeing if we can get Eric Coppolino to join us for maybe 30 minutes and then...
	The fourth hour of the show with Alex, I'm hosting, and I have in studio with me Michael Yon, who has just returned from his most recent adventures on the border.
	And he knows a lot about this East Palestine situation as well.
	Michael Yon, an expert in global food supply chain crisis, the shutdown of infrastructure and so on.
	Going to have him in studio at the InfoWars studio.
	And then after that, I'm going to interview him myself for an additional duration to get into more topics, more in-depth.
	So it's going to be quite a day of interviews, but I want to encourage you.
	Tune in.
	Infowars.com.
	Tune in.
	Alex begins broadcasting at 11 a.m.
	Central.
	Two hours later, I'll be joining him.
	And then an hour after that, I'll have Michael Jan in the studio.
	But we're going to be covering dioxins and many other things.
	Again, always subject to change if World War III breaks out tomorrow, which is actually a possibility.
	But that's the current plan.
	Now in this podcast today, you're going to hear this full interview with Eric F. Coppolino, which I think is a really critical interview.
	I've also got a special report that I recorded earlier about the so-called controlled burn lie, or you could say the big lie of the controlled burn.
	It's not a controlled burn.
	And then in addition, I've got an interview with Dr.
	Anna Marie Mihailchia, if I'm getting that correct.
	Mihailchia.
	Yes, I think that's it.
	Tough last name for us Americans to pronounce, but she joins me to talk about what's in the vaccines, but also why people who did not take vaccines are ending up with very odd artifacts, strange things in their blood and some of the research that's being done in that area right now.
	So you're going to get a double whammy of interviews here tonight in this podcast, which is why I'm not actually going to talk much up front, by the way, until we get, well, I've got the special report on the controlled burn and then the two interviews.
	So let's get to what the EPA says about this, though.
	This is what's critical to understand.
	And Eric Coppolino, who is a host on PlanetWaves.fm, I believe.
	I found his article on Substack.
	And he's been studying these dioxins since the 1990s.
	And he told me that he's been saving this collection of documents and just boxes of evidence, documents that he's had for all these years, going up on almost 30 years.
	And now the issue has come back around again because of this train disaster in East Palestine.
	But what you need to understand most importantly is that when you burn chlorinated substances, which means essentially, although this is a simplified version, but it means almost any substance with chlorine in it.
	Okay?
	So PVC, polyvinyl chloride.
	PVC is made of, of course, chlorine as an element.
	So there are other elements in the molecule, namely a carbon and hydrogen.
	So you combine chlorine, carbon, and hydrogen, and you get PVC. If you burn PVC, you produce crazy, insanely toxic substances known as dioxins.
	And the most toxic of these substances is called 2378 or TCDD for short.
	And it's referred to in both ways, TCDD or 2378.
	And it contains chlorine plus hydrogen plus oxygen.
	The oxygen is combined into the molecule during combustion.
	So, you know, how combustion has to have some form of oxygen for combustion or, you know, a fire to continue to burn?
	Well, during the fire...
	The dioxins are formed.
	This is what a lot of people don't understand.
	They think that if you burn something like vinyl chloride or if you burn PVC, it just goes away.
	It doesn't.
	If you burn PVC, you create dioxins unless you burn it at crazy high incineration temperatures, which is a couple thousand degrees Fahrenheit.
	So check this out from the EPA. I'm looking at archive.epa.gov.
	Waste, non-hazardous waste, and municipal solid waste.
	All right, here's what it says.
	Under dioxins, backyard burning is a particular health concern because it produces significant quantities of dioxins.
	Dioxins and dioxin-like compounds are a group of 30 highly toxic chlorinated organic chemicals.
	They can be produced through industrial processes such as chlorinated chemical manufacturing and metals smelting.
	Currently, however, the largest quantified source of dioxin emissions is the uncontrolled burning of household trash, that is, backyard burning.
	Studies have shown that just small amounts of chlorinated materials in waste are required to support dioxin formation when burning waste.
	This means that even when materials containing high levels of chlorine, such as PVC, are removed from household trash, burning the remaining waste still creates dioxins.
	Because, and get this, nearly all household waste contains trace amounts of chlorine.
	Understand?
	Any kind of incineration of backyard trash releases dioxins, which are toxic at less than parts per trillion concentrations.
	That's me saying that.
	That's not the EPA. But continuing with the EPA, here's what else they say, okay?
	Okay.
	Much of the dioxins created and released into the air through backyard burning settle on plants.
	These plants are in turn eaten by meat and dairy animals, which store the dioxins in their fatty tissue.
	People are exposed to dioxins primarily by eating meat, fish, and dairy products, especially those high in fat.
	Backyard burning occurs commonly in rural farming areas, where dioxin emissions can more easily be deposited on animal feed crops and grazing lands.
	These dioxins then accumulate in the fats of the dairy cows, the beef, poultry, and swine, making human consumption of these harmful chemicals difficult to avoid.
	And this is what's happening all around East Palestine.
	They set fire to the vinyl chloride, which is a monomer.
	It's not poly.
	It's the mono version of it, the monomer.
	They set fire to it.
	It created dioxins in the fire.
	The fire was the factory that created the dioxins, including 2378 TCDD. These dioxins then fall out of the sky.
	They land on the farms, the trees, the grass, the sidewalks, the car roofs and hoods and doorknobs and buildings and the parks, the dirt roads, the rivers and creeks, everything.
	And then that's what the animals are grazing on.
	So this is how it gets into the food supply.
	So the EPA continues.
	Dioxins are classified as persistent, bioaccumulative, and toxic pollutants.
	Those are called PBTs.
	P means persistent, B is bioaccumulative, T is toxic.
	So PBTs.
	PBTs, says the EPA, are highly toxic, long-lasting substances that can build up in the food chain to levels that are harmful to human and ecosystem health.
	Persistent means they remain in the environment for extended periods of time.
	Bioaccumulative means their concentration levels increase as they move up the food chain.
	As a consequence, animals at the top of the food chain, such as humans, tend to have the highest dioxin concentrations in their bodies.
	So you see, when we get the dioxin add-on in our laboratory and we start testing food for dioxins, we're going to be testing meat and milk and cheese and eggs.
	But we'll also be testing soil samples and water samples from the area.
	But we're going to test for the bioaccumulation of these PBTs.
	You don't want PBTs in your BLTs, you know, bacon, lettuce, and tomato.
	You don't want PBTs in there.
	It can kill you.
	So, from the EPA, dioxins are potent toxicants with the potential to produce a broad spectrum of adverse effects in humans.
	Dioxins can alter the fundamental growth and development of cells in many ways that have the potential to lead to many kinds of impacts.
	These include adverse effects upon reproduction and development, suppression of the immune system.
	Oh, gee!
	What a wonderful time to have suppressed immune systems.
	Disruption of hormonal systems and cancer.
	For more detailed information, read the EPA's dioxin and related compounds website, and it links to the EPA. And then we find out that, you know, the EPA is changing its allowable level of dioxin exposure to increase it by a thousand times.
	And that proposed change happened in January.
	That's right.
	About a month before the train wreck.
	The, quote, accident.
	Mm-hmm.
	So this is not me saying that dioxins are created from the combustion of chlorinated compounds.
	That's the EPA saying it.
	And by the way, every chemist knows this, and every chemist would confirm this, unless they're lying.
	If you combust chlorinated compounds, you get dioxins, okay?
	It's cause and effect, it's chemistry.
	And it's the EPA saying that these are PBTs, persistent bioaccumulative toxic pollutants, PBTs.
	Remember that, PBTs.
	Pretty bad toxins, you could say.
	PBT, pretty bad.
	And it's the EPA saying that these rise through the food chain and that they bioaccumulate.
	They end up at the fats of animals and the animal products, such as milk and cheese and eggs and so on, that end up being consumed by humans and that it's humans at the top of the food chain that then get the highest exposure to these dioxins.
	And it's the EPA saying that these cause cancer.
	And immune system suppression and development problems, reproduction problems, hormonal problems, okay?
	That's all EPA saying that.
	That's not me.
	And if anybody in the media were honest, I'm talking about the mainstream corporate media, they would be reporting this every hour of every day.
	But they're covering it up.
	They're lying to America.
	They're saying that none of that's true.
	They're saying that there are no dioxins.
	They're saying that nothing's dangerous.
	They're saying go back to your homes.
	In fact, the EPA is saying that, which is just inconceivable.
	It's inconceivable that the EPA would do that because the EPA's own website tells you how toxic this stuff is.
	And they know that they set fire.
	The railroad set fire to the chlorinated compounds.
	The EPA knows dioxins are raining down upon the land.
	Let me tell you, any scientists out there that want to blow the whistle on this and join me in this, I've interviewed EPA whistleblowers before, such as Dr.
	David Lewis.
	In fact, maybe we should reach out to him and see if we can get him on to talk about this.
	But if there are other scientists out there, if you want to come on with me and blow the whistle on this, especially if you're an EPA scientist, we'll protect your identity.
	Okay?
	We'll change your voice.
	You don't have to show your face.
	But you do have to prove to us off the air that you are who you say you are.
	We're going to need to check your ID. We're going to need to see, you know, proof that you work for the EPA or whoever you work for.
	We're going to check you out, but we won't share that publicly, okay?
	We'll protect your identity from the public.
	If you want to come on and join us in blowing the whistle on this, because we are talking about, again, the worst ecological catastrophe that has been unleashed in American history.
	And as Dr.
	David Lewis taught us, talking about biosludge, guess where all this stuff ends up?
	It ends up in the biosolids that then get spread on farms where animals graze and food is grown, the food that ends up in your grocery store.
	This is an ecological...
	It's an act of war against our country.
	And let me add that Eric Coppolino, by the way, is calling for the immediate arrest of every official that is complicit in allowing this to happen and in covering it up.
	He's called for that in the interview that you're about to hear here.
	Actually, you're going to see it because we filmed it with video.
	And I don't know that I can say at this point that I'm calling for their arrest, but I certainly...
	Would call for an investigation potentially leading to an arrest if it shows that they were complicit in this, okay?
	So I would support that conditionally.
	But we have to know that they knew that they were poisoning the world, essentially.
	Not just America.
	This is also going to affect Canada as well.
	This is an international ecological terrorism or catastrophe event, however you want to phrase it.
	It's bad.
	It's like America got bombed.
	Chemical bombed.
	So here's what I want to do.
	Let's jump into the interview with Eric Capolino.
	It's maybe 40 minutes or so.
	And then after that, I'll have the report for you about the big lie of the, quote, controlled burn.
	And then wrapping it up today, we'll have the interview with Dr.
	Mihalje, if I'm pronouncing that correctly.
	And then we'll wrap it up on the other side of that, okay?
	So, here we go.
	Let's jump into the interview with Eric Coppolino.
	And I think you'll find it truly fascinating, a little bit horrifying.
	But folks, the only place you're getting the truth right now is from the independent media.
	And I want to say, you know, Eric Coppolino comes from a network that's more left-leaning.
	And my network is more right-leaning, conservative-leaning.
	But folks, it doesn't matter.
	This transcends all politics.
	This is about human survival.
	This is about whether we can even have children, whether we have a food supply that functions.
	This is about us being under a chemical attack.
	This is war against humanity.
	It doesn't matter who somebody voted for in this moment.
	We've got to sound the alarm.
	On this massive ecological catastrophe.
	And we are, just to confirm, we are calling for the immediate total evacuation of the town of East Palestine and surrounding areas that were impacted by this.
	We're calling for immediate dioxin testing across the whole area, the fallout zone, all of it.
	And if the testing shows dioxin levels, we're calling for The permanent evacuation of that town, the total remediation, all the buildings are going to have to be torn down.
	The soil is going to have to be scraped off and replaced.
	There's going to have to be mass-controlled incineration in a hazardous waste incineration facility to get rid of these dioxins.
	That's the only way to do this, break it down into carbon.
	Oxygen, hydrogen, and chlorine as separated elements, you have to use crazy high temperatures in order to do that, okay?
	And then, that's the only safe outcome here.
	You've got to burn these at thousands of degrees.
	Then, you get rid of them.
	But just setting fire to them at relatively low temperature does not do that.
	That just releases them into the air.
	So, here goes the interview.
	Enjoy.
	Welcome to the Health Ranger Report on Brighteon.tv.
	I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger and the founder of Brighteon.
	And today we have a really extraordinary first-time guest.
	This is the first time I've ever had the chance to speak with him.
	But he really impressed me with an article on Substack.
	And his name is Eric F. Coppolino.
	And I'll allow him to introduce himself, but he's been studying dioxins and the toxicity from dioxins for about 40 years.
	And let's see, he's the host of PlanetWaves.fm.
	Welcome to my show!
	Mike, thank you for doing my best, and I've long wanted to meet you, and I'm sorry it's under these circumstances, but here we find ourselves doing the thing that we came here to do.
	Well, exactly.
	We live in this toxic world where there are all these cover-ups, where it seems like nobody in a position of power or authority wants to tell the truth about what's going on, and people are being exposed to all of this.
	And right now, the railroad company Norfolk Southern is paying people $1,000 to sign away all future laws.
	Well, what happened...
	Two weeks ago, a little bit more, I guess, is an unimaginable worst-case scenario.
	I mean, if someone had put together what they thought would be the worst possible environmental disaster involving dioxin, it would be something like...
	What happened and then further compounded by the fact that the railroad, apparently with consent of the governor, conducted a dump and burn operation of a chemical called vinyl chloride monomer.
	So first of all, this is a worst case scenario.
	And before I get into the history...
	Just because you haven't heard about it doesn't mean that it's not a persistent problem that has basically been known since 1949.
	And in other forms prior to that, but in 1949, the dioxin molecule was identified by Monsanto after an incident very similar to this in a place called Nitro, West Virginia.
	I'm going to add that to my list.
	And This was a toxin discovered of such unimaginable potency that it would kill rabbits by merely putting it on their ears.
	And then when they put another rabbit into the same cage without putting it into their ears, onto their ear, that next rabbit would die.
	So this is a toxin that is of...
	Incomprehensible potency.
	I know you referenced my aspirin tablet metaphor that actually comes from Peter Montague, a science historian.
	And in fact, the weight of one aspirin tablet, about five grains or 325 milligrams, contains what the EPA falsely says is the safe...
	Quote, quote, safe lifetime dose for 32 million people.
	That's unbelievable.
	The weight of one aspirin tablet.
	So the weight of 10 aspirin tablets would be the claim.
	This is false.
	I'll get into why this isn't the second threshold dose for the entire United States.
	You could fit this into an envelope and mail it for one stamp.
	And a heck of a lot more of that has been produced, and there is no telling how much was created.
	So I will get into the history and the chemistry of it, but I want to say, in case people don't get very far in this program, let's start with the most important thing.
	The children and the pregnant women have to be evacuated immediately.
	Any woman or girl who wants to have children needs to be evacuated immediately.
	Based on the precautionary principle and the fact that there has been no dioxin testing conducted whatsoever, the entire town needs to be evacuated.
	And basically relocated.
	Now, I know nobody wants to hear this, but the consequences of just staying there and toughing it out are not going to be good.
	Well, let me jump in here, because what you're saying is this is breaking news, and I agree with your assessment, by the way.
	This town needs to be evacuated.
	And it needs to be remediated with no one living there, obviously.
	And it may take years to remediate this.
	And even then, you know, look at the half-life of this substance in the soils.
	There is none.
	I mean, it never goes away.
	Is that really?
	That's a fact.
	It does not break down.
	Okay.
	I thought that it was like microbes could help break it down over a century or so, like a half-life of 50 to 100 years.
	This is theorized.
	This has not been demonstrated.
	There's been so little.
	I mean, we're familiar with how much information was concealed about cannabis by making it illegal.
	There were no studies.
	No one could get permission to do it.
	It was incorrectly put on Schedule 1, etc., etc.
	It's a similar situation with dioxin, where it's an unregulatable chemical because any amount is toxic, no matter how small.
	The stuff is measured in femtograms.
	That's unreal.
	And in parts per quadrillion times.
	So this is not an issue that is, A, well-known.
	It has been silenced by the corporate media for three decades.
	The most recent serious investigation was by me in 1994.
	Go ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	No, no, I appreciate you bringing all this in.
	A femtogram, I believe, is one one-millionth of one one-billionth of a gram, right?
	So a femtogram is six orders of magnitude away from a nanogram, correct?
	Well, it goes nanogram, I think, picogram, femtogram.
	The thing is, we're talking amounts so small you cannot conceive of it, and the weight of the air you're breathing is far heavier.
	Unreal.
	So if a person gets one drop of this substance on their body, that's actually maybe hundreds of thousands of times the maximum lifetime exposure.
	Something like that.
	But it's a slow-acting poison.
	That's the thing.
	It's not likely to be...
	An acute, immediately deadly toxin in adults, but it can be for children, it can be for fetuses, it can be for many, many different kinds of animals, though they have very different types of sensitivities.
	Some are much more sensitive than others, and then it is a long-term contaminant for everyone, mainly deriving most of its power from being a hormone disruptor.
	It's a hormonal toxin.
	And that's where it gets most of its power, in addition to being a carcinogen, but that too is connected to the hormonal action.
	So then the results of this exposure that is taking place and that has taken place, the curve of the timeline of this may stretch out for decades.
	Generations.
	Generations.
	Unreal.
	It's a multi-generational poison.
	According to a Dow chemical study kept secret by the EPA conducted in the 1970s, they found that second generation and third generation rats had the same effects as if they had personally been exposed.
	That's unbelievable.
	This is not a joke.
	In your article, too, I noticed that looking at the history of the lawsuits on this and so on, and you've done – obviously, you've covered this for a long time.
	And I really want to give you credit because you did an extraordinary job there and continue to do so.
	But Monsanto came right back into the picture.
	Monsanto, the history of Monsanto, Agent Orange, dioxins, and gave me flashbacks of all the horrible things Monsanto did to try to cover up GMOs and glyphosate.
	So it's the same corporations – That are killing humanity with these toxic chemicals.
	I was not surprised to see Monsanto as part of this.
	The problem here is that nobody was supposed to light the freaking chemical on fire.
	Right.
	I mean, there was some seriously misguided Decision-making going on there because you couldn't have done anything worse with dioxins.
	Particularly, I mean, to my knowledge, and there may be more, but we're looking at nine carloads of chlorinated chemicals.
	Five of them were vinyl chloride monomer, a precursor to polyvinyl chloride, and four seemingly, well, classified non-hazardous cars full of PVC pellets.
	And they all burn.
	So we had nine cars full of these chlorinated compounds burning.
	But they were burning in the presence of non-chlorinated compounds, which then add the hydrocarbons to the mix.
	And so when you add the chlorine burning to the hydrocarbon burning, you get chlorinated hydrocarbons, of which dioxin is by far the most potent.
	And it will certainly be there.
	That's why they buried the freaking ditch.
	They buried the pit.
	Right, right.
	But I want to ask you, has anybody done the math on the chemistry of this, of determining what mass...
	Of the various dioxin compounds.
	What's the total aggregate mass or estimates of that that would have been the result of the combustion of the vinyl chloride that was ignited?
	Any idea?
	There's no way to predict that.
	And I mean, I'm sure that kind of a theoretical chemist could, you know, number crunch it.
	But we don't even know how many tons of material, in fact, burned.
	burned and it was all burned at a diversity of different temperatures.
	Right.
	And, you know, the stuff is supposed to be burned at like 2000 degrees.
	These fires were not nearly that hot.
	And so when even burning it at 2000 degrees, you will still get new dioxins created.
	And this stuff was burned at low temperatures in a completely open, unfiltered, uncontained burn, along with some 10 or 15 or 20 other rail cars burning.
	And you don't need a lot of dioxin to a lot of chlorine to make dioxin.
	Yeah.
	So speak to what you just said is really critical.
	Thank you for pointing it out.
	When you try to remediate dioxin contaminated soils and you go to something called incineration, As you said, that requires extremely high temperatures to break apart these very tough molecules, these chlorinated compounds.
	But if you burn at a lower temperature, what you're actually doing is you are distributing the toxin.
	So you're forming compounds and then you're distributing them.
	But you notice how the media says this is a controlled burn.
	Controlled.
	Oh, what a joke.
	Right.
	What a complete joke.
	Throwing a flare in a pit full of a volatile chemical is a controlled burn?
	Please.
	No, I mean, what a cover story.
	Yeah.
	No, it's not controlled at all.
	I mean, it's going into the air and then the wind is taking it and the fallout is happening.
	That's not controlled.
	You know, if somebody did this, if a terrorist did something like this, I mean, it would be called an act of ecological terrorism.
	It was an act of ecological terrorism and everybody who was involved should be held criminally liable.
	Agreed.
	They should be in custody now.
	Yes.
	There should be a grand jury impaneled now.
	I don't really foresee that happening in a place like Ohio, but, you know, a boy can dream.
	So let's talk about what the real risks are.
	One of the problems is how this spreads.
	And it's going to spread through every vector.
	I mean, there's a massive plume in the atmosphere that is probably not that far from where it started, which really means kind of, you know, draw a 500-mile circle around East Palestine, and that's pretty much your exposure area right out to the east coast.
	So it's going to come down in the rain.
	It's going to be moved around by atmospheric movement, and then we have a further problem of movement by dust.
	This is a very serious problem with dioxin, because where it's settling, it's going to eventually bind with the soil, and then in the dry weather, that soil is going to flake apart and become volatilized.
	And force fires, force fires.
	Well, yeah, but just ordinary dry dirt, even a drought of any kind, any dust at all.
	So this summer, there could be another spread, a secondary spread.
	It's just going to be continuous.
	Right.
	It's continuous.
	So...
	And, of course, I know you're familiar far more than I am with the history of dioxins, but Times Beach, Missouri, right?
	They were spraying, what, dioxin-contaminated motor oil on dirt roads to try to keep down the dust?
	Well, it was really being used as a dioxin dump.
	Right.
	A town in Missouri was being used as a dump by Monsanto.
	The stuff was all coming out of St.
	Louis, right?
	And being given or sold or paid to a guy named Russell Bliss, who then basically dumped it over and over and over again.
	I mean, we're told, oh, that it was sprayed to keep the dust down, but this is like the minimalist version of this series of events.
	Massive quantities were dumped on the town.
	So that is not really a point source.
	That is a destination.
	It became a dump site, and of course, that town was completely leveled, incinerated, and turned into some crazy Route 66 state park.
	Unreal.
	Yeah.
	But it also brings up the point that, interestingly, back then, and what was that, the early 70s?
	That issue came to a head in 1978.
	78?
	Oh, no, no.
	No, I'm sorry.
	Well, that was coming to a head around the same era, but the dumping was going on from the 60s to the 70s.
	I'm sorry, I got confused with Love Canal for a second.
	Okay.
	Which is another comparable situation to this, the neighborhood of Niagara Falls, New York.
	What I'm trying to point out, isn't it interesting that back then, the mainstream media was covering it.
	Today, we see in East Palestine, we see just denial, just total denial out there by the media and the government and the EPA and the corporation that's involved here.
	So every authority is pretending that this is not a problem.
	And it smacks of Chernobyl.
	It smacks of the Soviet Union, 1986, saying, oh, there's no radiation problem here.
	It's practically and in many ways, this is more dangerous than radiation, by the way.
	I would agree.
	It's a matter of how much you get, but...
	You know, you don't want to choose your poison, really, right?
	But nonetheless, you know, it's a huge problem.
	Now, there's a history to how this became an open secret.
	Because, I mean, the number of towns where this has happened include Love Canal, Nitro, West Virginia, Cervaso, Italy, Vertac in Jacksonville, Love Canal, New Paltz, New York, Binghamton, New York, Five Rivers, Oregon, Bloomington, Indiana, Pittsfield, Massachusetts, and others.
	Wow.
	That essentially became these kind of ground zero locations of massive dioxin releases.
	But here's what happened in the early 1990s was that a newsletter editor who produced like a one-page front and back newsletter every week, Peter Montague, Dr. Peter Montague, quoted government documents and court records about dioxin.
	And Monsanto put up one of the scientists who did one of the studies that was completely fraudulent to sue him and provided him with an attorney to sue Peter Montague.
	It was a very bad move.
	They did not anticipate the judge granting broad discovery motions to prove that what Dr.
	Montague published was true, but And then William Gaffey died before the lawsuit to go to trial, but not after the entire press was warned off of the issue.
	Because it would seem to lead to a – potentially lead to a lawsuit.
	And then something else happened, which is also in the early 90s.
	The New York Times ran a six-part page one series by a writer named Keith Schneider about how dioxin is not as serious as previously believed.
	And people believed it.
	That was also about 30 years ago.
	So the issue came to a head in the 70s and 80s.
	It was still peaking in the early 1990s with the federal government's reassessment of the toxicity of dioxin, which said that it was orders of magnitude worse than previously hoped or believed.
	And then suddenly the lawsuit against Montague and the fake New York Times coverage The issue went away from the press.
	Now, you skip ahead 30 years.
	When I have a conversation with a chemist, and I'm talking to chemists, they don't really understand the actual issue.
	They can help me with the molecule.
	They can help me understand the The formation of the molecule and then all this stuff, but they're not versed on the issue.
	Of the toxicity.
	Because it kept quiet so long.
	Well, and this is the history of powerful corporations and regulatory capture in America under every administration.
	It's not left or right.
	It's corporate infiltration of government.
	We saw it with big tobacco, right?
	We saw it with GMOs.
	We see it with pesticides.
	We see it with, I mean...
	Everything you can imagine, right?
	You know, arsenic and baby food, right?
	You name it.
	Or lead and gasoline before that was taken out for the most part, right?
	I mean, they were – cars driving down the road in the 1970s were just spewing lead all over – all in the air.
	I mean, wow.
	And we were told it's all safe.
	So – Oh, yeah.
	People are – Especially with this, the people in East Ohio are saying the EPA is lying to us.
	They're getting red-pilled big time right now.
	Of course they're lying to you.
	The lying has gone on for generations and is not going to stop now.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Well, there's a special game played with dioxin, and it is by far the most pernicious of the environmental games, because to bring up the dioxin issue, and now the dioxin issue is up.
	I mean, there's going to be no getting around that.
	This most toxic chemical leads to the most toxic games played by particularly federal, but also federal.
	State authorities.
	And when it comes time to testing, this is when the playbook needs to be understood that there's a playbook here.
	And that playbook involves testing in the wrong places, testing for the wrong chemical, testing by the wrong method.
	I'm losing test results, losing the samples themselves, quote unquote, losing, losing.
	And every other game imaginable down to burning down the homes of people with massive document collections in their homes, which is more of an issue when the documents were not kept on the Internet as they are today.
	But there's no limit to how far these corporations and the government will go to suppress this issue.
	Yes.
	And they, you know, may have forgotten how bad it is themselves.
	You know, I interviewed a scientist, a former EPA whistleblower, Dr.
	David Lewis, and I produced a film called Biosludged, which is free, folks.
	If you want to watch it, it's at biosludged.com.
	But that's about the biosludge accumulation.
	And you know what Dr.
	Lewis told me?
	He said any terrorist that wanted to distribute a toxic substance in America, all they have to do is dump it in one sewage port, you know, one sewage drain.
	And then the city will distribute it across all the farms and fields and parks and everywhere that they're dumping all this bio sludge.
	Well, think about dioxins now.
	So dioxins are moving down the Ohio River into the Mississippi and into the Gulf, ultimately.
	And think about all the cities that use those as water sources, including Cincinnati, by the way.
	And then that's going to get flushed down the toilet.
	That's going to go into the biosludge in all those cities.
	So biosludge, or I think it's called biosolids in a lot of these cities, it's going to be a dioxin accumulation cesspool, and they're going to spread that on the farms, folks.
	That's what's coming.
	And it's going to be uptake by farm animals.
	There's 75,000 farms in Ohio, probably a comparable number in Pennsylvania.
	Most of them are family farms.
	So, I mean, this is the kind of thing that is so bad that you would think that society would be organized around making sure that it never happened.
	But what we have is quite the contrary, a society organized around basically making sure that it happened.
	I mean, how many thousands of tons of material were on those trains, which is two employees and one trainee on that train?
	There were just three guys running that train.
	And then every bad decision was made in terms of how you want to contain this, you know, You don't want to take the entire thing and dump it into the atmosphere.
	I mean, this will come down in the rain basically everywhere.
	There'll be eventually some measurable level in the rain.
	I can't believe I'm even saying this.
	I assume the issue was dead because nobody cared about it anymore.
	And I have maintained my document collection and my contacts and my archives the best I could over, You know, the essentially 39 and a half years I've been on this issue, and now suddenly it is right in our faces.
	Well, Eric, may I call you Eric?
	Sure.
	Let's collaborate on this, because I don't know if you heard my announcement, but in our food science lab, we have a triple quad mass spec, and we're just now acquiring a gas chromatography interface.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Yes, and this is going to be up and running in about 90 days, and it will allow us to get a peak response, you know, a visible peak of two femtograms that's load on column with a one microliter injection.
	In other words, we're going to have, you know, parts per billion, subparts per billion sensitivity on this instrument.
	Sure, that will work for this, but don't ruin your equipment.
	You need somebody really experienced with dioxin per se.
	You don't want to ruin all this new gear.
	No, no.
	We're getting training from the manufacturer.
	They're coming in-house to do the training on this.
	We already run these instruments for glyphosate detection.
	So we're already familiar with the software and everything.
	And importantly, we're not handling dioxin external standards.
	So we're not going to be able to get an actual full quant I'd rather have you do it than anybody.
	I don't even trust labs when I send out samples.
	Yeah.
	I don't know who owns the lab.
	So you're as good as it gets in this game.
	You can trust us and, again, give us 90 days to get this new interface up and running.
	We already have the instrument.
	This is just a gas chromatography interface that connects with the instrument.
	We've been running this instrument for years on glyphosate.
	And we're getting like five parts per billion limit of quantitation on the glyphosate.
	But we'll be able to do dioxins, and we need to work with people like you who have networks of contacts in Ohio, in the Amish farms, in Pennsylvania.
	We've got to get samples.
	We need soil.
	We need water.
	We need grass.
	We need, you know, we need samples.
	And then we'll do the testing.
	Yeah.
	Well, they have to be collected correctly, and the places they need to be collecting now, because we're about, you know, maybe entering some kind of a first round of testing, and we have to keep the pressure on.
	We have to get the EPA to admit this is an issue, first of all.
	But they need to be testing on rooftops right now.
	Good point.
	That's the most important thing.
	And air intakes.
	rooftops and air intakes because they're not going to be disturbed so badly by foot traffic and vehicular traffic and you'll get your cleanest sample.
	And there's a sampling kit that includes hexane and the right bottle without plastic and so forth.
	I don't know the current protocols.
	I've never personally done dioxin testing, only PCBs and glyphosate.
	Well, I haven't done dioxin testing either, but you're right.
	And I'll have my lab team find out the proper protocols so we can do this correctly.
	But no matter what we find, you can bet the EPA is going to argue with it and say, no, that can't be.
	No, we certified.
	It's all good.
	Yeah.
	Well, but that's also how you force their hand.
	And then there has to be a third party who's not paid for by the railroad, who's functioning independently, and there need to be what are called split samples.
	The same place sampled has to be sent to two labs independently of one another.
	be compared and both labs are aware there's going to be split samples and therefore they're more likely to do an honest job.
	So in the immediate sense, there has to be dioxin mapping and we have to even have a pass fail, which of course, I don't think it's going to pass.
	I mean, obviously they're going to find it with this astounding, it's just incomprehensible.
	I mean, the entire quantity of Love Canal was 23,000 tons of waste that was at least kept under the ground for the most part and in a kind of a cool place.
	Here, you had a comparable amount of chemical stock burning suddenly in the open air.
	So this was just like— Love Canal turned inside out and lit on fire.
	Unbelievable.
	It's unthinkable that someone would do this.
	Now, let me ask you, Eric.
	Again, I want to give out your website where people can follow you, planetwaves.fm.
	You're the host.
	You're the lead of the Chiron Returns investigative team.
	Is that correct?
	Yeah, Chiron Returns investigative team.
	Chironreturn.org if you want to find us.
	Okay.
	And then you have planetwaves.org.
	It gets people to your Substack page.
	Yes.
	And you've been covering this for, what, you said 40 years?
	Yeah.
	Well, I first got into the issue when I was a 19-year-old features editor for the Campus Magazine at SUNY Buffalo, and I read in the Buffalo News that the state of New York wanted to...
	To rehabitate the Love Canal area after, five years earlier, a massive evacuation of 700 families, and then just a few years later, the state was talking about painting the houses and changing the street names and changing the name of the neighborhood and then selling the houses to unsuspecting people, houses that were bought out in the Superfund buyout.
	And that was my first investigative feature as a 19-year-old.
	And then I did many tours of duty in journalism, business, and public higher ed, and got dragged in in 91 when there was a Toxics release.
	I can send you B-roll photos if you'd like.
	A toxics release due to PCB transformers exploding on the campus of the State University of New York at New Paltz.
	Oh, wow.
	So that was my kind of trial by fire where my community experienced a dioxin release, and I put the next three years of my life into covering it and then spread out a network of people around the world who had worked on this issue recently.
	And, you know, learn the entire history and learn, you know, learn the game that the authorities play because I played that game with them as a journalist.
	And I will tell you that citizen action works in these cases.
	It works.
	You must keep the heat on them and not fall for their lies.
	They're going to put up nozzle heads who say, yeah, it's safe.
	There's a safe level.
	Anybody who says there's an acceptable or safe level, you know they're lying.
	That's how you can tell they're a shill.
	They say there's a safe level.
	Of dioxins.
	Yeah.
	This is not about vinyl chloride or PVC. This is about the combustion products.
	Those things are bad.
	These things are, dioxins are stratospherically worse than those things.
	And yes, this is what we see in this quest for profit, and I guess in this case, to clear the rail lines and get more trains running, instead of dealing with the more involved process of a liquid contaminant that would have to be pumped and contained and so on.
	They just said, oh, let's just set fire to it.
	It'll burn off in a couple of days, and then we can reopen the railroad tracks.
	And by doing that, they're exporting the poisons and making it everybody's problem instead of just their problem.
	Oh, yeah.
	And the tanker trucks were put on notice that night.
	I have a source in the steel industry who knows the railroad industry because there's a lot of steel recycling in the railroad industry.
	He said the tanker cars were put on call that night to be available to do a proper disposal of these chemicals.
	They would have had to just pump it into an infinite...
	Probably hundreds of trips and tanker cars, and they could have contained it.
	But they not only took a bad course of action, they took the absolutely worst conceivable cause of action.
	You'd have to be quite a science fiction author to come up with a...
	I'm just astonished that we're even having these conversations.
	But this is where we find ourselves, and we need to get this information to people in East Palestine and far around it.
	Well, we absolutely do.
	We're going to be covering your work.
	Now, going to your website, let me just bring this up.
	You've got a resource on your Substack page, which people can reach at planetwaves.org.
	Forward to your Substack page.
	You've got a dioxin resource page for citizens and journalists.
	Yes.
	Can you tell us what we will learn in that resource guide?
	Well, it'll take you all the way back to the discovery of dioxin, depending on which one you read.
	The first piece I wrote about this where I took two articles by my senior colleague, Peter Montague, and posted them and then put kind of a long intro on top of it will give you a Comprehensive history back to the beginning.
	But then you're going to learn many side stories.
	There are important interviews with Carol Van Strum, who went through a situation comparable, but again, not nearly as bad as this, in the 1970s and the 1980s.
	I'm talking to her every single day.
	We've remained friends for 30 years, so you'll hear two interviews with her.
	There is coverage of the way that the New York Times essentially participated with the CDC in a political detoxification.
	One of the best investigative reports in American journalism history by Vicki Monks called See No Evil.
	And you'll have my coverage of the history of PCBs, which includes some history of dioxins.
	There are many branches of this story, and I try to keep it down to a It would take about a day to read all these things, but it took us, the rest of us, you know, half a century to research this.
	So that's a pretty good return to get, like in a day, what took us all 50 years collectively.
	Many people, 20, 30, 40, 50 years to do.
	There's a documentary about Times Beach, Missouri, that's also on there as well.
	And I'll add resources to it and we'll respond to requests.
	But the idea here was to bring people up to speed fast.
	Okay.
	We're going to cover that.
	And we'll do some editorial coverage citing your resource guide.
	And then also, can you recommend, is there anyone else that I should also be interviewing on this?
	You could, I mean, even off air, you could let us know.
	I want to pursue this issue very diligently.
	Unfortunately, there are not a lot of prominent, I mean, I don't really, I can't really name very many people.
	There's people I wish we could have, but they're not alive anymore.
	The attorneys who handled the train car spill in Sturgeon, Missouri...
	And litigated Monsanto about its dioxin problem, which is where a great many documents came out.
	Peter Montague is in his 80s.
	He's not, I don't think, making any public appearances at all.
	And so I was the little kid among these, like, pretty serious people.
	When this happened in my community when I was 27 years old in New Paltz, New York, and I've kind of Inherited it.
	I mean, Erin Brockovich has been very outspoken on dioxin.
	She's an incredibly articulate speaker.
	She's more, you know, doing network news appearances.
	Reach out to her.
	I hear she's going to be in East Palestine on Friday.
	We may be able to organize getting video of that.
	And, you know, I will reach out to Carol.
	I don't think she's video capable, though.
	Okay.
	No, it's low tech.
	I just want to put that out there.
	And we can have you back on as well.
	And we can collaborate on some testing, you know, throughout the year, hopefully.
	I think that would be ideal.
	But you make a very important point.
	there aren't a lot of people who can talk about this publicly because it's been it's been so many decades since the Missouri incident, for example, and in New York as well.
	And so, you know, this is something that's this is a ghost of the past that's coming back to haunt us now again in our modern day.
	And the younger generations have have never heard of this before.
	No, they've never heard of it.
	I I mean, I wondered for a long time why I was, like, maintaining climate-controlled storage for my document collection, which, by the way, is also online at Columbia University and at DocumentCloud.
	Those resources are also listed in my primary dioxin resource.
	Now I know why I've kept this issue simmering in the background all of these years, and I'm grateful there's at least one person Who can explain this cohesively and keep the issue in play.
	And thanks to Neil Donahue at Carnegie Mellon for being the first person to say the word dioxin publicly.
	It was a low-key mention, but it was mentioned.
	So it is starting to percolate in, but this is the word we need.
	You need to get this into your social media comments.
	Post my Substack piece, even where you think it's irrelevant.
	This issue affects everyone.
	I mean, this stuff is in every bite of food to some level, and it has never been addressed by the government or the companies.
	They just keep sweeping it under the rug.
	And then they keep us entertained for three years with a phony virus.
	I know.
	It's the pandemic.
	Day 1100 of my virus coverage, and every day I'm like, what is going on here?
	Like, I know the dioxin issue, and these people are having complete panic attacks over a respiratory virus that only kills you if you're on remdesivir in a ventilator.
	Yeah, isn't it amazing how people's response to real danger is often so misaligned with it?
	And the press helped with this, I mean, around the clock.
	Yeah, for sure, for sure.
	We were brainwashed.
	We've got to wrap this up here.
	Sorry to cut you off.
	Nope, not at all.
	We've got to wrap this up in a couple of minutes here, but I just want to say, also for the record, and get your response, Eric, I understand that your audience may be more on the political left, more progressive.
	My audience is more conservative, Christian.
	But I want to say, people, this issue transcends all politics, dammit.
	This is about humanity.
	It doesn't matter what side of the aisle anybody is on.
	It doesn't matter what you think about presidents or elections when it comes to dioxins.
	You have no future.
	If you're contaminated with dioxins, you have no farms, no food, no future, no children, no reproduction, nothing.
	The politics do not matter, period.
	What's your response to that, Eric?
	Well, that's true.
	I mean, this is certainly not a left-right issue.
	Bill Clinton is one of the worst offenders in terms of concealing the problem because of Vertak in Jacksonville, Arkansas.
	Which was basically concealing a massive dioxin problem created during the Vietnam War.
	And Clinton took part in that directly.
	And then Clinton also stuffed the reassessment of dioxin's toxicity in the early 1990s, very early in his administration.
	And all of this has made me a kind of a former...
	I think what they're calling us now the anti-war left.
	Oh, is that right?
	Well, I thought the left was supposed to always be anti-war.
	Like, what happened?
	Yeah, well, that's been...
	A lot of things have kind of...
	Yes.
	Become completely backwards.
	And look, I mean, even as a former progressive, I've always felt more comfortable with conservatives for some reason.
	And they seem to like me more.
	I don't know why.
	I'm a complete freak.
	But I've always gotten along better with Republicans.
	So go figure that out.
	Look, it's interesting.
	But, you know, when I was in college, I was a Bill Clinton supporter when I was in college.
	So there you go.
	You just never know.
	The more we learn, the more wisdom we gain.
	You know, you find out what's really important.
	And I got to say right now, folks, we've got to get these toxic chemicals out of our supply chains, our industries, our food, our bodies, or we have no future.
	We have no future.
	We have to get the girls and the young women and the pregnant people out of East Palestine or anywhere near, and that town has to be evacuated.
	And people will be shocked when the guys come in wearing level A moon suits to do the sampling.
	Because they know what's going on there and they're going to look like Buzz Aldrin in the photo on MTV wearing the full moon suit with the air packs inside the suit.
	That's what they're going to be wearing when they...
	Sample East Palestine for dioxins.
	All right, so that's the breaking news today.
	Eric Coppolino, and we join you in calling for an evacuation of East Palestine and the surrounding area where that fallout has taken place.
	That's critical, but especially, as you said, for women of childbearing age and children and pregnant women right now.
	Yep.
	What about pregnant men?
	Mike, thank you for helping me get this word out.
	What about the pregnant men, Eric?
	Do we have to get them out too?
	Definitely.
	Definitely.
	No, I had to throw that out there.
	The world's pretty twisted, but...
	Folks, nobody should be exposed to these toxins.
	So thank you, Mr.
	Coppolino, for taking the time for all that you've done.
	I think your work is extremely important for humanity, and we will invite you back, and we'll collaborate with you, and we'll do our best to sound the alarm.
	And thank you.
	And thank you to all the people who spent hours and hours and hours explaining this issue to me and running copies and mailing me things and introducing me to other people.
	They're good folks.
	They're good folks on this issue.
	Okay, folks.
	Planetwaves.org gets you to Eric's Substack page, and planetwaves.fm gets you to his show, his network.
	And thank you so much, Eric Coppolino, for joining us today.
	It's been a pleasure.
	Thank you, Mike.
	God bless.
	And bye for now.
	Okay.
	We'll keep in touch.
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	I repost this on any channel, any platform.
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	We're in trouble, folks.
	We better educate each other and get up to speed, or we won't make it through this toxic world.
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	Take care.
	Okay, hope you enjoyed that interview.
	That was hard-hitting.
	Next, I've got a special report here for you, which I recorded earlier.
	It's about the so-called controlled burn lie.
	The massive lie of controlled...
	They're claiming it's a controlled burn as if they're pretending that gets rid of all the chemicals.
	It does not.
	It creates new chemicals, i.e.
	the dioxins.
	So give this a listen.
	And then on the other side, we'll have another interview for you.
	Here's the special report.
	The burning of the vinyl chloride in the aftermath of the Norfolk Southern train spill in Ohio is being called a, quote, controlled burn.
	But that's a lie.
	It's a malicious lie.
	I was on with Steve Bannon yesterday.
	I want to thank him for having me on.
	And he asked me this question, why isn't it a controlled burn?
	You know, in my view, what makes it not a controlled burn?
	And I had a little bit of time to answer it there, but I need to explain more.
	So in order to understand this, you've got to understand a little bit about chemistry and dioxins and incineration.
	So different kinds of molecules.
	Require different temperatures of a fire to destroy those molecules and complete incineration of many of these so-called persistent molecules, which could include things like pesticides or herbicides or chlorinated compounds in this case or dioxins or what have you.
	Depending on the molecule, Complete incineration can require temperatures beyond 2000 degrees Fahrenheit.
	And controlled incineration, which is what a lot of countries do to biosludge, by the way, they incinerate the biosludge.
	That incineration destroys essentially almost all the molecules and just leaves behind Ash, carbon, and minerals, the elements, in other words, it leaves behind the things that are on the table of elements.
	You have some carbon and some calcium and some magnesium and so on, because those don't burn up, right?
	But what will be destroyed in the incineration are the complex molecules.
	Which are made of things like carbon and hydrogen and oxygen.
	For example, vitamin C is nothing but carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen.
	Did you know that?
	It's just those three elements arranged in a certain configuration that makes it ascorbic acid.
	It makes it a vitamin.
	And the same thing is true with pesticides or herbicides.
	So glyphosate, for example, You know, it's made of the same basic elements plus phosphorus, and it has a phosphate group in it, and it has a certain specific configuration and a certain polarity, a certain affinity based on its, you know, chemical topography or morphology, as it's called, that gives it its properties to function as a weed killer.
	Now, if you take glyphosate and you start to break it apart, You get post-glyphosate byproducts, which are things like AMPA. That's the short acronym for one of the smaller molecules.
	It's smaller than glyphosate.
	And then if you keep breaking it down even more, which is what bacteria do in the soils, eventually you just get simple things like ammonia, NH3. Or you might get other...
	Hydroxyl compounds, depending on what molecule you started with, you're going to get different smaller products as it all degrades.
	And what's important to understand is that the toxicity of glyphosate, when you break it down into things like AMPA, well, AMPA itself doesn't have the same toxicity as glyphosate.
	It doesn't function as the weed killer.
	So when you break apart the molecule, you render its toxicity largely ineffective.
	So when you're looking at dioxins, which are rather large molecules, and some of them are very, very complex molecules, lots of chains, lots of sequences of different elements.
	When you incinerate those molecules, you eliminate their toxicity and you break them down into the carbon, the hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorus, and so on, which by themselves are essentially harmless.
	So, yes, you can incinerate vinyl chloride in a controlled, high-temperature, hazardous waste incinerator, and you can eliminate the vinyl chloride, and you can even incinerate dioxins at very, very high temperature, and you can therefore break them down and eliminate their toxicity.
	But that is not what happened in East Palestine, Ohio.
	They set fire to it in an open ditch.
	Where it doesn't burn at a sufficient temperature to break down the molecules.
	And in fact, at the temperatures that you would find typically in an open ditch fueled by a chemical like vinyl chloride, you're actually producing more combustion byproducts.
	You're not incinerating everything down to its carbon.
	Carbon, oxygen, nitrogen, and so on.
	What you're doing is you're creating new toxic compounds that didn't exist before, including various dioxins.
	And dioxins are created from high heat.
	When you combine high heat with chlorinated compounds, i.e.
	in a relatively low temperature fire, you get dioxins.
	It's well known.
	This is...
	How dioxins are accidentally created in industry.
	So by burning this in a ditch, they produced dioxins.
	So when the media says it's a controlled burn, it's a lie.
	It's a malicious lie.
	It's a damn lie.
	It's not a controlled burn.
	It's a dioxin-producing fire factory is what that is.
	And they released it right into the open air.
	I mean, think about the term controlled.
	Well, if you control something, it means you have control over it.
	You can limit its movement.
	You have it contained, for example.
	Well, they say they have a controlled burn.
	That's a term from forest fires where you burn a section of a field or a small forest section in order to create a fire break.
	It means you intentionally set it on fire because you want to stop this other fire from spreading.
	That's what controlled burn means.
	The term controlled burn doesn't apply to these chemicals.
	It's not a controlled burn.
	It's a dispersal.
	It's a synthesis of new toxic molecules and then releasing them into the air where they will fall onto the farms and the rivers and the streams and the rooftops and people's cars and backyards and swimming pools.
	Okay?
	It's not a controlled burn.
	It is a deliberate act of ecological terrorism against America.
	That's what that was.
	And anybody who says it's a controlled burn either doesn't know what that term means or they're just parroting the mainstream media lies or White House lies or what have you.
	It's a cover story.
	Oh, it's a controlled burn.
	Well, let me ask you this.
	If it's controlled, if it was controlled by the railroad, then does the railroad take responsibility for all the effects of that burn since they claim to have controlled it?
	By definition, even legally, if you claim to control a vehicle, and if the vehicle runs over 12 people, then aren't you liable for the vehicle's damage to all of those people, all the fatalities and damage?
	Or if you control an airplane and the airplane flies into a quickie mart or whatever, aren't you responsible for the damage that that airplane caused to the quickie mart?
	Well, since Norfolk Southern claims that they controlled this burn, then they are admitting responsibility for all of the cancers, the deaths, the abortions, the dead animals, the food contamination, the property values crashing.
	This is the railroad admitting that they shall be responsible financially, perhaps legally, perhaps criminally responsible for the fallout of this toxic chemical catastrophe.
	Now, think about this.
	Alec Baldwin, on the movie set of the movie Rust, he pointed a gun at, what was it, one of the, was it the producer or director of photography?
	He pointed a gun.
	He pulled the trigger.
	Not knowing the gun was loaded, he inadvertently, well, you should say he deliberately pulled the trigger but didn't know it was loaded, and so he inadvertently shot this person.
	Was Alec Baldwin in control of the gun at the time?
	Yes, he controlled the gun.
	No one else controlled it at that time.
	Now, an armorer controlled it before he did and assured him that it was empty, but it wasn't.
	But he didn't know that.
	So he controlled the firearm, and he killed somebody with that firearm, even though he didn't mean to.
	That is very similar to what Norfolk Southern just did.
	I don't think that the railroad wanted to kill people, but they pulled the trigger by igniting the vinyl chloride.
	And the barrel of that gun was pointed at everybody.
	Everybody in eastern Ohio, everybody in northwestern Pennsylvania, a whole lot of people in New York and all the areas that are going to be affected by this.
	They pulled the trigger and they say they were in control.
	And maybe they didn't know the gun was loaded.
	Maybe they didn't know that they would produce dioxins.
	But they pulled the trigger, and as a result, cause and effect kicked in, and the dioxins were created.
	And one of the ways that you know they were created is because, well, I mean, number one, it's just straight chemistry.
	You can talk to any competent chemist, and what happens when you combust chlorinated compounds?
	Oh, you get dioxins, yeah.
	I mean, it's just part of the chemical equations.
	It's cause and effect.
	But secondly, notice that no authority in the area is testing for dioxins.
	Why?
	Because they don't want to see them.
	They don't want to find them.
	If there were no dioxins present, they should test for them and declare, we've tested and we found no dioxins.
	But even then, you couldn't trust them because they're covering it up, right?
	You have to have an independent lab.
	You have to have somebody that's not hired by the railroad or part of the EPA to have somebody you can trust.
	But they're not even pretending to test for dioxins.
	They're just not testing.
	And then saying, everything's good, go back home.
	Dioxins are toxic at ridiculously low exposures.
	We're talking parts per trillion exposures.
	Which are almost, almost impossible to detect with laboratory instruments.
	You have to use the most high-end, the most sensitive mass spec instruments in the world, which we have one, by the way.
	It's called a triple-quad mass spec or a tandem MS-MS. If you're wondering about the third quadrupole, that's the collision cell, but we won't get into that.
	You have to have the world's most sensitive instruments in order to be able to detect dioxins in the environment because the concentrations are typically very low, but they're extremely toxic nonetheless.
	We are looking at an ecological catastrophe on a scale that we've never seen in the history of this country.
	And it wasn't Alec Baldwin that pulled the trigger.
	It was apparently, once being reported, somebody at Norfolk Southern that gave the order to set fire In an open ditch, a large volume, perhaps a million gallons of a substance that would burn at temperatures which will not incinerate the toxic molecules but will rather produce more toxic molecules.
	That's what happened.
	That's like pulling the trigger of a gun pointed at somebody's chest.
	Except in this case, it's thousands, tens of thousands, maybe at some point hundreds of thousands of people.
	Maybe millions.
	It's a high population density area.
	Now, if the truth ever comes out about this, and by the way, watch my interview with Eric Coppolino, who has been covering this in great detail.
	Watch my interview with him, and we're going to be covering this editorially in a lot more detail.
	But you will understand why the town of East Palestine must be evacuated immediately.
	And these people need to go through a dioxin detox also immediately.
	And we're still researching what's the best way to do that.
	But we know that cruciferous vegetables contain indole-3-carbinol, I3C, which can help eliminate dioxins from the body and help block absorption.
	So we know that right now.
	But people need to be going to super clean diets.
	They need to drink a lot of water.
	They need to sweat out.
	That might help.
	Might not.
	We don't know yet.
	But everything that you can do...
	As a traditional, safe, healthy detox, those people should be doing that right now to get these chemicals out of their bodies as quickly as they can.
	And as we learn more, we'll share that with you publicly so that we can help more people truly detox all the way.
	But that's what needs to happen.
	And that town needs to be shut down.
	And there needs to be dioxin testing everywhere across that town.
	And there probably needs to be an effort to remove the top layers of soil, to take down all the homes and buildings, to peel up every road, you know, compensate everybody, buy them out, buy their land, their buildings, because the real estate's going to be worth zero when the truth comes out about this.
	They need to pay people, move them, and raise the town.
	They've got to tear down the entire town.
	In my opinion, based on what I know so far.
	And then they would have to remediate it.
	There might be soil microbes that could possibly help.
	I don't know.
	But we need to be looking into that.
	You would have to bring in new topsoil.
	From other areas, you need to build giant concrete monuments that say things like, never dig down more than 12 inches because this whole area is contaminated with toxic dioxins and carve it into concrete so that no one can take down the signs.
	You need to put, like, thousand-year warning signs.
	Seriously.
	You know, in case modern civilization collapses and you don't want some future survivors stumbling into this toxic area.
	That's what you need to be doing.
	And instead, what you're getting is a total cover-up.
	Media cover-up, corporate cover-up, government cover-up.
	Three institutions of society, they're all colluding to cover this up.
	And so as a result, many thousands of people will die prematurely probably.
	Perhaps tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands will have years taken off their lives.
	So no, folks, it wasn't a controlled burn.
	It was a chemical factory.
	It was combustion to create far more toxic chemicals than what they started with.
	It was the worst possible decision that could have been made.
	And no doubt, millions of lives will be impacted in some way.
	Not necessarily cancer or death, but millions of lives will be impacted with, you know, hormone problems, infertility, spontaneous abortions, mood swings, mood disorders, hormonal disorders, all these things will likely impact millions of people for generations to come because of the one decision to issue a, quote, controlled burn order.
	It's not a controlled burn.
	You don't set fire to a million gallons of toxic liquid chemicals if you don't understand the chemistry of what happens next.
	It's suicide.
	It's amazing how quickly they got everybody to use the term controlled burn.
	Why would you call it controlled?
	There's a giant plume going into the sky.
	The CEO of the railroad admitted, look at the giant smoke plume.
	And he said, that's when we knew we were having success, I think.
	The sky filled with this horrible, dark, toxic cloud.
	How would you call that a controlled burn?
	If you unleash something into the sky where the wind blows it and then the rain makes it fall on the farms and then goes into the rivers and streams and flows downstream, emptying ultimately into the Gulf of Mexico, that's not controlled.
	That's out of control.
	It's an out-of-control, toxic cloud event.
	It's a toxic cloud event.
	I want to thank Steve Bannon for having me on and for him having an open mind to hear about this.
	Interestingly, this topic tends to be the focus more of people on the political left Which is a shame because all of us, regardless of our politics, regardless of who we voted for, for president or what have you, we don't want to live in a toxic stew of deadly cancer-causing chemicals.
	We don't want our food supply to be contaminated.
	We don't want our waterways contaminated.
	We don't want our fish and our pets and backyard chickens to be contaminated.
	This issue should transcend politics.
	It just so happens that people on the political left are much better on this issue of halting contamination.
	The problem with the left on this is that they think carbon dioxide is a pollutant, but it isn't.
	Carbon dioxide is a nutrient for plants.
	It's necessary for photosynthesis.
	So it's like, well, those of you listening on the left, you know, I hope you get this sorted out.
	Some things are really, really toxic like dioxins and heavy metals and glyphosate and pesticides.
	And all of those have different orders of magnitude of toxicity, by the way.
	But carbon dioxide is not a toxin.
	It is a nutrient for plants.
	We would die without it.
	So they get all skewed and messed up talking about climate change and the war on carbon.
	We're carbon.
	We're made of carbon.
	If you're going to have a war on anything, it should be a war on toxic synthetic dangerous chemicals.
	Carbon dioxide is not synthetic.
	It's as natural as God's green earth.
	We would die without it.
	The plants need it.
	Dioxins are created by industry.
	There are no natural dioxins in the world, in the environment There weren't until we came along and started creating chlorinated compounds and burning them Using industrial processes to essentially cook them at high temperatures, releasing or creating dioxins that then go into many of the products, including tampons back in the 1980s.
	Remember the toxic shock syndrome?
	That was from tampons.
	That was the bleach in the cotton paper, I think it was, or a cellulose paper, It was a bleach and it contained dioxin contamination because of the bleaching process.
	And it was killing some women.
	And no one expected it because the toxicity was so high at such a small concentration.
	Well, imagine if you carpet bombed An entire region with those same dioxins.
	And then it gets on everybody's skin and gets in everybody's food and it's on their door handles and rooftops and backyards and playgrounds where their children play and school yards and sidewalks, roadways and all of that.
	That's where it is now.
	That town needs to be evacuated immediately.
	And if it is not evacuated, I'm going to agree with Eric Coppolino.
	I'm going to call for criminal arrest and prosecution of every official that has been part of this cover-up.
	Every official who lied to the public and swept this under the rug and has resulted in these people being exposed to toxic, even potentially deadly compounds.
	That town should be evacuated immediately.
	Watch my full interview with Eric Coppolino.
	It's on my channel on brighteon.com.
	Alright, finally today, we've got an interview.
	This is more about vaccines and toxic elements and chemtrails and fallout and self-replicating Exotic substances that apparently are being detected in the blood of people all over the world.
	We have Dr.
	Mihalje here joining us to talk about this.
	We've been hoping to have her on for quite some time.
	This is a video interview.
	It's a little under 30 minutes.
	It's very informative.
	Give this a listen and then I'll wrap things up on the other side.
	Here we go.
	Welcome to the Health Ranger Report here on Brighteon.com and Brighteon.tv.
	I'm Mike Adams, and today we're joined by Dr.
	Anna-Marie Mihalcia, who is an expert.
	She's been analyzing the strange substances that are being found not only in vaccinated individuals, but also the live blood analysis of, in some cases, even unvaccinated people.
	This is rather frightening.
	We're going to talk about shedding and potentially exotic technology and what may be forming in people's bodies after being injected with these mRNA, so-called clot shots.
	So she goes by Dr.
	Anna, and she has a Substack page.
	We'll put that here on screen for you.
	Dr.
	Anna, thank you for joining me today.
	I really appreciate your work, and I really look forward to asking you what you found.
	Thanks for joining me.
	Thank you so much.
	And I want to say that I'm so grateful to you, Mike, because you're the only one who actually analyzed the clots.
	And that analysis was hugely important for all of us.
	And your courage and your commitment to humanity is phenomenal.
	I want to thank you so much.
	Wow.
	Well, I'm humbled by you saying that.
	I mean, I feel like you're doing the same thing, too.
	There's so many people in this space who are trying to find out the truth of this, and we all see what's happening.
	We see the deaths.
	We see the disabilities.
	We see the cover-ups, the lies of the establishment, and how they're trying to silence all of us, and they've tried to silence you as well.
	But thanks to Substack and Independent Media, you've been able to get the message out.
	So let's start from the beginning, then.
	Give us an overview of what What you're finding that's raising the most red flags in your mind, please?
	So, I'm part of an international research group who looked at the vials.
	Part of those are Dr.
	David Nixon, for example, who's done dark field microscopy, and he's done some very special analysis on the vials in regards to the fact that he's done it over a long period of time, over months, has exposed the Microscopic slides to many different conditions, for example, EMF radiation, and then has done time-lapse video.
	And what he found was that out of the contents of the vials, microchips and strange ribbons are developing.
	There's another scientist in our group, Dr.
	Shimon Janovich, who incubated the contents of the different vaccines, including the Moderna shot, the Pfizer, and he actually found that by raising the temperature out of the lipid nanoparticles, these strange structures would grow.
	And then other engineers like Matt Taylor from Ecuador have actually reproduced this independently.
	And so there's 26 teams worldwide who've looked at the vials and they've found high levels of all kinds of metal contaminants, including things like cesium, barium, aluminum.
	Tungsten, all kinds of different metals.
	And what was very interesting is that some of the researchers, for example, Dr.
	Daniel Nagat, didn't find any mRNA, no molecules of life.
	Kevin McCurn, Steve Kirsch, none of them found mRNA.
	And even the European Medical Commission admitted that the mRNA does not conform to label, that there are RNA fragments, there's DNA contamination, proteins.
	And what my whole endeavor has been in educating people is to say, look, if we have vials that don't even contain mRNA, then how come that people are getting sick?
	And what else do we need to consider in our detox protocols?
	So in the beginning of this rollout of these jabs, the vaccinated blood also was found to be highly abnormal with rouleau formation, meaning clumping of the blood and then these strange ribbon-like structures.
	Now we see that the live blood analysis of unvaccinated people is exactly the same.
	I do dark fields microscopy, live blood analysis, and my unvaccinated patients have all of them are contaminated with these structures.
	I'm also a certified chelation practitioner, so I do EDTA chelation and I pull out metals out of people.
	And the amount of metals from things like geoengineering, like aluminum, barium, but also tungsten, which by Mark Steele has been identified as a metal specifically used as a weapon, uranium, all kinds of other metals I find and I pull this out.
	Wait a second.
	Dr.
	Anna, I'm sorry to interrupt, but we just can't pass over that bombshell that you said earlier, which is that you're finding these in unvaccinated people.
	So we need to try to understand in your model of what's happening, how is this happening in the bodies of unvaccinated people, but then seemingly related to vaccines?
	How is this happening?
	Because the vaccines themselves may not even contain all these things.
	There seems to be some element of self-assembly happening.
	Is that correct?
	And then answer, how is this happening in unvaccinated people potentially?
	Yes.
	So the substance called PEG, polyethylene glycol, is the component of hydrogel.
	Hydrogel is what's called programmable matter that has the ability to self-assemble and grow.
	In fact, if exposed to electrical current or electromagnetic fields, it is able to grow from nano size to centimeter size in minutes.
	This hydrogel has been shown that if it is combined with different metals, it can actually be used to create soft robotics, meaning it creates microchips, biosensors.
	And other electronic devices that are made from synthetic biology and now are injected into humans.
	As to the source of this is I believe that there is a physical type of shedding.
	It's not just an electromagnetic contamination from the vaccinated to the unvaccinated because clearly some of my patients have done tests where they had their blood cleaned up with EDTA IV chelation.
	We have shown in live blood analysis that they had no structures, no acidity, no microclotting.
	They exposed themselves to a vaccinated people and then came in the next day to get a live blood analysis.
	And their blood was completely changed, full of what's called rouleau formation, clumping of the blood.
	And many of these, what I believe, are hydrogel, carbon nanotubes, combination structures, So wait a second.
	Are you saying that what is shedding is not these substances themselves, but rather instructions for the body to build?
	I personally do think that there is something physically transferring.
	We have found these structures in human sweat, in human urine.
	We have found it in sputum, so people are coughing it out.
	We've seen it in blood.
	But then the problem is also that the similar chemical substances are being inhaled.
	For example, they're being sprayed through geoengineering.
	They are in the food supply, as we know.
	So the issue, for example, with geoengineering was there was, in the 1990s, a synthetic biology emerged called Morgellons.
	I'm very familiar with Morgellons, yeah.
	Yes, it was a fiber, an artificial fiber that people were exposed to and they developed strange rashes.
	They were all labeled that they were psychotic.
	But it turns out that Clifford Carnican did chemical analysis on this.
	And this fiber structure was made from polyvinyl alcohol, which is hydrogel.
	And it also developed nanotechnology structures in the form of octagons, just like we're seeing now in the C-19 shots.
	So what I'm saying is that the transhumanist agenda of transforming humans into cyborg, uploading it to us to the cloud, and really changing the entire planetary system Via these heavy metals that change electrical conductivity, which is part of all of nature.
	And then using the synthetic biology has been going on for 30 years.
	And the vaccination campaign is really just the final stage of now getting it under the skin.
	But it's been shown that Morgellons fibers were found in people who never had symptoms.
	We're inhaling this stuff.
	Okay, can you...
	Hold on a second.
	Let me give out your website again.
	It's called Dr.
	Anna's Newsletter.
	It's on Substack, and we'll put it on screen for you.
	It's a subdomain of Substack.com.
	So what you said, Dr.
	Anna, I mean, this is extraordinary, and I think you're on the right track, that the vaccines are just the latest chapter of this, frankly, a genocidal campaign against humanity that's been going on for decades in various ways.
	It's just that the technology has reached a point now where they're able to be more clever and covert in the vectors that they use to introduce this into the human body.
	You mentioned food in particular, so I want to ask you about that.
	Our readers are familiar with things like RNA interference technology that's used as an insecticide of sorts in food.
	They're also familiar with the fact that mRNA injections are now beginning in ranch animals.
	So there's going to be mRNA infection in the meat supply which is frightening to a lot of people.
	How deadly is the food supply going to be?
	Maybe dead is not the right word.
	How dangerous or how contaminated is the food supply going to be?
	And how urgent is it that people grow their own food or get local ranch animal meat and stop shopping from the centralized food giants?
	I know that's a big question, but take it wherever you want.
	Go ahead.
	I think that's an immediate need if you want to survive this war and assault on humanity.
	The food supply has been contaminated for a long time.
	There are studies, for example, you might remember the baby food story that 95% of all baby cereals have heavy metals in them.
	Heavy metals are highly toxic.
	They cause mitochondrial dysfunction, meaning they make you age faster.
	And these metals accumulate in your body.
	We know about glyphosate.
	We know about so many other toxins.
	So it's imperative that we grow our own food.
	And what's really important to understand is that because of this geoengineering program where they are spraying toxic metals like aluminum, like barium, strontium, all kinds of things, that deposits in the earth.
	So even if you have a garden outside, Your organic food can still be contaminated.
	And it's extremely important to also look at the water supply.
	I would not drink city water, you know, make sure that you're on a well.
	And I think that these things are really, really important to understand that if you wanna be healthy, you need to have healthy food, healthy water. - I completely agree with you and it raises so many questions in the minds of people.
	Even how can you, if you collect your own rainwater, what about the chemical fallout and the dioxins and the vinyl chloride or whatever else is falling out from Ohio or other industrial accidents?
	How do you properly filter that rainwater Now, I know that rainwater is by far the cleanest source of water in terms of the testing versus well water, which is really contaminated, and city water has other chemicals.
	But rainwater is not perfect.
	You still have to filter out volatile organic compounds, in some cases, or so-called forever chemicals, things that can be in the rainwater.
	What do you tell people to do?
	I mean, all these inputs that go into growing food, they have to be cleaned themselves or you don't get a clean product.
	Well, I tell them exactly what I said.
	You know, you do what you can, but you can no longer really, you know, go shopping and, you know, eat in fast food chain restaurants and expect to be healthy because there's such an assault on our health everywhere.
	And we found these ribbon-like structures in rainwater as well that's been analyzed by Matt Taylor in Ecuador.
	So there's been atmospheric analysis, certainly, of the rainwater with all these metals.
	So I believe that the air is an important way of how we are contaminated.
	So I've come to the conclusion that because of this assault from shedding, from de-engineering, from the environmental poisoning of the food supply, you know, we know from even bottled water, if you put an electrical current into that, there's all kinds of things that Metal contaminates that become evident that you have to do whatever you can to detoxify.
	I'm a huge proponent of this EDTA because it dissolves the hydrogel, pulls out the metal, and it has been shown to help with the graphene.
	But I think it's really important to understand that there's a broader picture here than just, you know, the spike protein narrative and that clearly the unvaccinated aren't safe.
	I want to say something about vinyl chloride, which was one of the big chemicals in this spill that then was set fire to and all these dioxins are falling out.
	So vinyl chloride is used extremely commonly in the medical industry for all kinds of plastics for You know, syringes for IV bags.
	And it turns out it's also used as a hydrogel.
	So it is being injected into people, again, as a soft robotics.
	And if you consider that vinyl chloride acute exposure can cause death and respiratory depression and brain dysfunction, all kinds of problems.
	I think it's important to understand that these components that we're calling hydrogel and that are now ever-expandingly put into all medical injectables and I mean we found it in insulin for example and other people have found it in anesthetics.
	That these things are also bombarding the human body and people need to understand how toxic they can be.
	Absolutely.
	And I want to explain real quick.
	Hydrogel is a homeostatic, meaning it can actually clot your blood.
	And because of its self-assembling features, it's been clearly shown to grow.
	And as you know, I've even seen an unvaccinated person with extremely long clot That looks just like the vaccinated blood clots.
	And I'm very concerned about its relationship to 5G rollout in particular.
	I think that the more EMF exposure people have, the more they are prone to grow these things in their live blood and cause severe dysfunction.
	Yeah, that's interesting that you mention that because I've talked to other experts who believe that the vaccines can contain instructions to build a platform, but then the platform activation is accentuated or augmented by 5G. I mean, that's a theory that I've heard.
	I don't have any proof that that's happening, but it certainly is a plausible theory because we've seen all the research about the The external magnetic field instructions or implications for nanowires and things like that.
	But I want to mention something.
	I believe the first I read of your substack, you were wondering if we might be able to assist with some lab testing, and I want to offer that here publicly.
	And also announce something really exciting that you can use as well.
	So yes, we can test.
	We have two ICP-MS instruments, elemental analysis, mass spec, very high sensitivity, sub parts per billion sensitivity for a limit of detection.
	We would love to process some samples that you might provide and give you those results as an ISO-accredited lab report.
	So I want to mention that, and something we'll offer to you.
	But then secondly, and this is brand new, we are adding what's called atmospheric pressure gas chromatography interface, or APGC, to our tandem mass spec, or triple quad, as it's called.
	And within about 90 days, it looks like we're going to be able to test for dioxins.
	And that's a new instrument.
	It's going to require training and an install and everything, or it's a new interface.
	But at that time, we could do testing for you on samples, but not blood.
	So we're not equipped to handle blood or urine or body fluids, but I'm talking environmental samples, soil, food, water, groceries, anything like that.
	So we'd like to offer that to you here publicly if that can be of service to you.
	Thank you so much, Mike.
	And your work is so important because, again, even with this fallout, what are people going to do in terms of, you know, even fresh fruits and vegetables?
	I mean, dioxins, we know in extremely low concentrations have huge toxicities.
	So, you know, the only way to really understand whether or not the food supply is safe is to do this kind of testing that you're offering.
	Thank you so much for all that you're doing and in this time of crisis that you're able to step forward and actually do this for people and I appreciate it and if there are samples to be tested I'm definitely going to Get back to you.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, please do you have contact with our producers so they can give you a shipping address and the proper way to address it to get to our lab, and you and I can be in touch.
	In fact, I'd like to get you my mobile number so we can keep in touch about any important breaking news.
	We're about to wrap up this interview for today, which is way too short, so we'll ask you back.
	But what are your final thoughts today?
	What's the most important thing for people to take away from this?
	Do anything that you can for detoxification.
	Nutritional supplementation with clean nutrients.
	Whatever you can in regards to your clean way of living.
	But also take care of your mind and spirit and keep your spirits up.
	These are very challenging times.
	I believe that things are going to get worse.
	And that only as we are rallying and continue to fight for our freedom will we make it through this time.
	So thank you so much for your contribution to everything.
	Well, thank you, Dr.
	Anna.
	You're doing extraordinary work.
	And please thank all your colleagues as well.
	And know that we're at your service.
	You know, we've got this new studio here.
	We're able to do a lot more interviews now.
	Still working out a few bugs here and there, but we're able to do more interviews so we can interview you and some of your colleagues.
	I want to give out your website again.
	We're going to put it on screen.
	It's called Dr.
	Anna's Newsletter.
	It's on substack.com.
	And it's Dr. Anna Marie Mihailcha.
	But it's an unusual-- it's a difficult spelling for English people.
	Let's just put it that way.
	So you'll have to look for Dr.
	Anna's newsletter.
	Does anybody spell your name correctly the first time, like American-wise?
	No, and this is why I've given up and I just called myself Dr.
	Anna because nobody can say my last name, so I'm compassionate towards that.
	That's great.
	Well, we appreciate you and all your work.
	Thank you so much for joining us today.
	Please keep in touch.
	And I'm serious about that offer of lab testing.
	So let's keep in touch and let's get some samples from you and see what we can do to help people live a clean life, as clean as possible in this toxic world.
	Thank you so much, Dr.
	Anna.
	Thank you for having me.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	And for those of you watching, feel free to share this interview, as always, on other channels and other platforms.
	I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com, and you can find my work and coverage of this interview and other interviews at naturalnews.com.
	Be sure to also check out brighteon.tv, where I believe Dr.
	Anna will be a frequent guest with some of our other hosts on our broadcast channels there, brighteon.tv and brighteonradio.com.
	Thank you for joining me today.
	God bless you everyone.
	Be safe.
	Take care.
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	HealthRangerStore.com.
	Thank you for your support.
	And then also I want to mention we've got a big interview coming out with Steve Quayle.
	It might be coming out today or tomorrow, actually.
	Not sure.
	I'll check with my team.
	But that's a big interview.
	There's a lot happening this week.
	Steve Quayle's on top of it.
	He and I talk about what's coming, what the risks are, and what you can do to prepare.
	And that interview should be available here shortly.
	So check it all out at brighteon.com and all the other platforms where we post.
	But folks, get ready.
	Share this.
	Sound the alarm.
	Eat superfoods.
	Grow your own sprouts.
	You know, you've got to protect yourself.
	We're living in a toxic world, and the establishment out there is lying to you, and they're telling you everything's fine while they're killing you.
	They're murdering you.
	The EPA, remember what it stands for?
	Extreme population assassins.
	That's what the EPA is.
	Steve Quayle came up with that.
	Extreme population assassins.
	So, stay informed.
	Thank you for listening today.
	God bless you all.
	We'll make it through this together.
	Alright, take care.
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