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Jan. 4, 2023 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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David DuByne and Mike Adams discuss global crop failures, famine and cannibalism
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Welcome to the feature interview for today.
I'm Mike Adams and our special guest today is David Dubine and his channel is called Adapt2030.
He's also a host on Brighteon.tv every other Friday at 2 to 3 p.m.
Eastern Time.
That's a free stream to catch there.
His channel Adapt2030 is also on Brighteon.com and other platforms.
And he's also got the Mini Ice Age Conversations podcast.
He's an analyst of global trends in food, fertilizer, crop production, and a whole lot more.
And he has been calling it correctly for as long as I've known him.
So, David Dubine, it's an honor to have you on.
It's great.
I mean, thank you for joining me.
This is going to be great.
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
And I'm glad, you know, a few things played out last year that we talked about.
I remember us having a talk back in March and how much of that came true.
There were a few things that didn't hit, like the rationing cards, the digital rationing cards didn't come in full play by the year-end here of January 1st.
But, you know, we're definitely on our way.
So at least identifying the trends and then definitely hitting a bunch of specifics.
What about the food supply in 2023?
That's really what we want to talk about.
Well, that's true, but I do want to mention, just popped up in the news over the last day, that in the UK, all the retailers, including food retailers, are using massive ID and surveillance tech tools now, and that is preparation.
For the food rationing that's coming.
So, you know, a lot of times you and I and others who can see pretty far in the future, you know, we talk about these trends and we take a guess at a date.
Sometimes it takes a little longer.
Sometimes it happens a little sooner, but it's all moving in that direction.
So you're nailing it.
Thanks for...
Thanks.
You have to think about Whole Foods.
You know, they put that thing in where you have to scan your phone print before you're allowed in the gate.
I mean, where does that, you know, drop in the definition of it?
Well, right, and clearly that's a pilot store that they have.
Isn't that on the East Coast right now?
I think it is, yeah.
You know, once I saw that, I was just repulsed by it and just decided to brighten my day and move on from that one.
Well, yeah, yeah, one more reason not to shop at Whole Foods.
But here we are at the beginning of 2023, and people have already experienced food inflation.
Right.
We don't have to convince anybody that food is more expensive, right?
Everybody who eats has figured that out by now.
Food scarcity here in the U.S., shelves aren't empty, obviously, but selection is reduced.
There are shortages of certain things, like infant formula is still in shortage.
There are supply chain problems.
But the main thrust of what I want to ask you about today is What you think the food supply situation is going to look like this year and next year.
And then I want you to cover from your research some of the trends that lead you to those conclusions.
So where would you begin?
Well, I would start right back into the deindustrialization of Europe.
You know, that is ongoing and it has not ceased.
And Mike, since you and I were talking to some of the same people telling us the smelters were going to close and there would be a full shuttering of all heavy industry across Europe, that has, past tense, already happened and has been months way in the past.
That's right.
Nothing's moving.
So we have no fertilizers, no herbicides, no pesticides, nothing coming out of Europe, and that was 40% of the world's production of fertilizer and all the other farm implements like insect protection and control, competition species plants, otherwise known as weeds that you would kill off with herbicides.
Every one of those factors that's in play in a field decreases the yields.
So, you know, when you start to look at the fertilizers, it's around a.8 to a one-to-one loss, depending how little you have of each of those.
So even if you do simple math, minus 40% on the grain crops.
Now we've got Brazil going into a possible full civil war, and they're a huge, huge grain exporter.
Now, I don't, and correct me if I'm wrong, know many countries that are embroiled in a full civil war where their exports are functioning at full potential, and the supply chains are running, and everything is still working from the farm to the port, and the ports are loading and they're moving out on time.
I just don't remember that in history.
Maybe you do, but I don't.
No, they're headed into a very dangerous situation there, but I remember a recent headline where China is buying corn, now directly from Brazil, instead of purchasing it from the United States.
So China seems to be creating global redundancy in their food supply chains, anticipating either shortages or conflict with the U.S., Perhaps a trade war with the United States.
So there are those implications as well.
And I know we're going to talk about Ukraine and Russia and all of that, but, you know, grain exports out of Ukraine are going to factor into this year and next year, for sure.
And then, you know, the reason I was talking about Brazil and Argentina, wheat, this sort of thing, if you start to look at all the things that have happened just in the last, say, one month, So we're now having what's the possibility of stoppages in Brazil.
Argentina continues into its drought, so it's missing yet another plant and maturation season.
That cold that swung down through the United States and North America was so cold that it killed winter wheat all the way way down here in Tennessee.
And all parts in the Midwest, I've already gotten reports, replanting is going to be done.
And I've seen here, it's either brown or yellow out in the fields, and it's pretty much a complete loss.
It hadn't really gone to dormancy here, because our season's a little bit different.
It doesn't do that until January.
I got hit with a cold.
We got the Hunga Tonga eruption, which is a wild card, and I still can't believe nobody's talking about this.
Largest watery vapor ejecta ever recorded, Denting into crop production, and now that water vapor has eclipsed the equator and headed up to our North Pole.
Now it envelops the entire planet.
We are also heading into a year without a summer.
The onset, if it follows historical recorded patterns, should be about one year to one year and two months after the eruption.
So we have to go January 2022, and if we bring that out to January 2023, just this month, Add another two months, and then we should get somewhere near the max cooling on that.
And that shall roll.
Whatever effect that takes is going to roll for another year and seven months at these temperatures.
So, however, it affects crop production.
So, you're saying that that water vapor effect is going to kick in for the northern hemisphere roughly late spring, something like that?
Yes, right in our planting season.
And I'm wondering how much this cool spell had to do with a year without a summer onsetting.
Because it's a bit strange.
We get the coolest temperatures, you know, in some places ever.
And this water vapor was up there and following the same cycles of onsetting year without a summer in our spring planting season.
Well, my question though, David, is has anybody done the math on the volume of the water vapor that was dispersed into the mesosphere versus the cooling impact?
Because there's a direct correlation, I know, but has anybody actually done that math?
I mean, how do you estimate the cooling severity from that event?
On the Pinatubo eruption, the El Chinchon eruption, the Tambora eruption, and Laki, Mount Laki, that was in Iceland in the 1790s.
You know, going back into these types of eruptions where they have very solid data on when it occurred and what the global impact or what the regional impacts were that was so severe that populations had to migrate.
So what was seen with the Hunga Tonga eruption sits in that somewhere depending on how many, what's the measurements that they're using looking through the optical aerosols to see what the density of aerosols are up there still.
Mainly it's water vapor, there's still some sulfur dioxide, etc.
And then, you know, you covered on your show, they want to start doing some atmospheric perturbation, aerosol injections, what's that, make sunsets company.
Yeah.
This is a runaway nightmare scenario.
You start doing geoengineering, doing a year without a summer, and come clean.
They've already been doing geoengineering for so many years.
And David Keith, that was one of their main worries, was to put this program in play.
And this is before Make Sunsets.
This stuff's been going on for years and years, this geoengineering.
One of their nightmare scenarios was they had their program in full play, and then we got a VEI 7 or 8, and that would take three years to come out of the atmosphere.
And they were conducting...
Concerned is an understatement about a runaway cooling event if those two were to over-couple.
And it seems they have in some fashion.
The Make Sunsets company, for those who aren't familiar, is a company that wants corporations to basically engage in virtue signaling to pay the Make Sunsets company to pollute the atmosphere, to dim the sun, in exchange for some kind of carbon credits.
So this would be, if this idea takes off, powerful corporations would funnel billions of dollars to a pro-pollution group that would pollute the skies for profit in the name of saving the planet, which is completely insane.
But that's what this is.
And the reason they call it Make Sunsets is because, you know, if you dim the sun, you have more interesting sunsets because of all the redness and the orangeness and so on in the sky.
But you also have global food crop failure and mass famine and death.
So maybe making sunsets is not such a great idea.
But there we go.
Well, that's one of the markers that originally set me on this quest for looking at the water vapor data.
Was what they call volcanic afterglow.
You know, just days and weeks after the eruption in the southern hemisphere, the volcanic afterglow was already in Antarctica.
It was already southern New Zealand.
It was already in southern parts of Australia, where people were talking about how vivid and how long-lasting and how purple these sunsets were.
But you've got to realize that eruption was at 20 north.
Their viewing point was 40, 50 south.
And down to the Antarctic, that's at 90 degrees south.
That eruption, 20 degrees south latitude in Tonga, and it rolled down to the bottom of the planet and back up again.
It caused significant cooling, and it's called afterglow.
Yeah, volcanic afterglow.
So, then, you know, you talked about crop failures in the southern hemisphere because of the shorter growing seasons and the shortage of short season seeds.
How much of that are we able to see in terms of data, or is it still too early because it's, you know, their season's not even over yet?
Well, what's been known so far is the planting has been delayed in many places.
The soil temperature and the moisture was just too much.
There was nothing in there.
They knew if they put seeds in, it wouldn't germinate, it would rot, and they would have to replant.
So it's delayed planting in many a place across the Southern Hemisphere.
But the lucky phase for them was after that eruption had happened, the onset cooling usually is a 12- to 14-month window where it hits the bottom.
Like, they've come through the harvest season already during that window.
Now we're entering the coolest of, from now, these next two months are going to be the bottom of the cooling, and you'll start to see it dropping.
And if it in any way is coming to a year without a summer, we are going to have the most brutal February.
And the winter's going to hold on far longer because you've done some reports on this.
You know, they were talking about snow at the end of June and into July in New York and New Hampshire and Vermont.
But right now, Europe is unusually warm, and we're seeing LNG prices falling, but that could be very temporary.
You know, it could be part of the weather temperature perturbations that happen.
But they're getting a lucky couple of weeks here of warm weather for the moment.
Yeah, they are.
And you have to think about, you know, when would they start to riot and demand change?
If it was as cold as it was here in North America, the United States, Canada, Mexico, if it was really that cold in Europe at that time, there would be riots and revolts on the streets already.
At what point does it have to go?
They are so blessed to have this warmth now that governments aren't being toppled by the minute because of just the people freezing in their homes, pipes busting, no basic services.
Like that social contract that we have as obedience, you know, not myself, but I'm just talking the general populace.
The obedience is you give us a better way of life, a better possibility of life, and we will behave and obey the rule of law, pay the taxes and do all the good things we will just to play the game so we have the opportunity.
That's broken.
And you throw in massive cold wave with no food, no heat, and expect people to continue to behave.
Is just ludicrous.
So, you know, I really say they're so blessed to have this warmth that, hey, people aren't dying and freezing in their homes, but, you know, it gives them another couple days, weeks or whatever to figure out what they have to do with the energy there.
They don't have enough electric or natural gas to heat even the winter in a normal or Europe in a normal winter.
So where does that take us from now?
There's no industry either.
Yeah, right.
So joblessness is a huge problem there.
But did you see that Germany's energy minister announced a couple of days ago that it's never going back to normal, that energy prices are going to stay elevated for as far as they can see.
So anybody there who's maybe like, let's say, a manufacturing business that's been holding on saying, well, you know, we'll reopen when the electricity goes back to normal.
It's not going back to normal there, Hans.
Never.
Yeah.
Your leaders just told you that.
So they're facing a very bleak decade, I would say.
Yeah, didn't I see up on Natural News that the German government was asking their citizens to take a shower only once a week?
True.
Are you telling me that one of the most apex societies on the planet is now degraded in less than a year and they've fallen that far?
That they're burning firewood and they're asking their citizens to take a shower once a week?
How fast it happened is shocking.
It itself happening is shocking.
That's a collapse of a civilization and an apex economy.
To drop that fast is shocking too.
That is true.
I mean, the deindustrialization and now this hygiene factor, although me being satirical and politically incorrect, I had to joke and say, for some parts of Europe, once a week would be an improvement.
But across the board, I get it.
That's going to be a big problem for a lot of people, especially if the showers are cold.
Like, oh, you can only shower once a week, and it's a cold shower.
Like, it's barely above freezing.
That's not going to be any fun.
So what are you going to do?
Heat a bowl of water or a pan?
A pot of water on a wood stove and then try to mix it with cold water and take like a lukewarm sponge bath out of a bucket?
Is that what it's coming to?
Because that's no fun either.
I've done that and that sucks.
Not a good way to live.
Yeah, you could only embrace the Wim Hof method for a while before you get cold, and you're like, well, that's enough of that.
It's the middle of winter in Germany.
Right, right.
Yeah, the room in which you're bathing is also cold, like crazy cold.
Just getting water on your skin makes you start to shiver.
So, you know, not a good situation, but there's no end in sight to this.
That's the thing.
And even the governments are now admitting this.
And I mean, and the warning about the blackouts that are coming to across Europe, even in the UK, warning about blackouts, or at least the potential for them.
So I think that Europe is going to face a very, very difficult year.
And in America, we've actually got it a lot better than the Europeans right now, probably also on the food supply, wouldn't you say?
I would, because I have some new numbers.
The Agricultural Minister of Ukraine came out just about a week ago, just before the new year onset, probably like the 20th or somewhere around there, of December of just last year, 2022, and said that they're only going to plant 30% of their field space due to damage from the war.
And this would include shrapnel and unexploded ordnance, You know, whatever had been parked in the field that has just stopped.
Like, imagine if you bring in a bunch of battle gear and it's just still on the field and everybody, and it moved to a different place, you have all that debris still there.
They're having a very difficult time even considering planting 30%.
So you know how it is.
They start really rosy forecasts, but by the time it comes down to reality, it would not shock me if it was only 20% of all Arable land in the Ukraine was planted this year, because they've even had more strikes on their electrical infrastructure since that news report was put out some weeks and weeks ago.
Well, and the other factor is that there's apparently a major Russian offensive that is being planned and is almost certain to be carried out before the spring thaw of the ground.
So imagine, you know, tracked vehicles running across more fields.
Probably targeting Kiev and then moving westward from that if they succeed in taking Kiev.
So, you know, the breadbasket areas of Ukraine, of central Ukraine, are going to get hit with more combat and, you know, more tracked vehicles, more ruts.
And, you know, you...
I mean, I own tractors.
You can't drive tractors across a field reliably if it's full of ruts and pits and mortar holes.
You have to fix the field first.
I mean, it's just physics.
Yeah.
If you ever watch this movie, it's titled King Corn, and it goes through the whole corn ag industry here in the U.S., but they were saying that they would buy tracts of land from a farmer, and they would tear down the farmhouse because they didn't want to have to turn their tractors as much.
So now you're telling me that they're tearing down old farmhouses because they don't want to go turn their tractors on a 500-acre plot, but you're supposed to spin your little tractor around every mortar hole and bomb crater there and get a yield in?
Right.
Come on.
Yeah, that's not going to fly.
Yeah, every crater is...
Heck, here in Texas, even just wild hog digging up for wild onions, that causes enough damage to fields that it drives the local farmers totally bonkers.
And if you're riding in a tractor over that land, you're in a roller coaster ride.
It's like a shake and bake there on top of the tractor.
You can barely drive the thing because you're getting rock and rolled all day long just from the hog poles.
You don't want that.
And then you have to think about in Belarus and also Russia, the amount of nitrogen fertilizer that they export, as well as phosphorus as well.
All of that's going to stop.
So that's just going to continue to add in to what Europe was not able to produce.
So then you have to think about the Belarusian potash that they mainly export.
They've got Himalayas and that stuff over there.
And then Russia itself.
So take all of that off the table.
In a cooling climate where, you know, growing conditions are not going to be optimal anyway.
And then how is that going to play out?
I mean, you've grown crops before.
I have too.
And without the fertilizers or amendments or compost or whatever you're going to do, it just doesn't work as well.
You can still get something.
It's going to be scrappy yield.
But, you know, in reality, if we don't have 50% of the farm inputs for the world, then, you know, what are the yields going to be is the question.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
And then at least those inputs, typically a farmer can have some control over it, right?
So you might be able to get fertilizer if you're willing to pay five times as much, let's say.
But there are things you can't control.
And I want to ask you about this next, because this is what really concerns me, and it's geoengineering.
It's weather weaponization.
It's not just the cold wave that we just had, but then droughts and floods and heavy winds in storms that destroy orchards.
Everything from avocado orchards in California to the citrus orchards in Florida.
Just one windstorm, boom, and it's gone.
And it takes a decade or many years, let's say, to recover from that.
But the geoengineering seems to be cranking up like never before as well, and you can't control that.
So I think farmer certainty or the farmer's ability to project You know, with some degree of certainty, the crop yields is eroding rapidly.
What are your thoughts?
Well, I would add to that the statement of the planted acreage in the forecast doesn't matter anymore.
Because before, that's basically how they would gauge the forecast is they had an average on the acreage.
But you can't do that anymore if you don't have all the farm inputs.
So it's not reliable.
It's not going to be reliable.
I would imagine it being more regional than it will be a countrywide market or a global market anymore because the yields are going to be so varied and so different from continent to continent, state to state, even regions within the state.
Here, East Tennessee or Central Tennessee, West Tennessee, it'll be very different even in those regions.
So I just...
Don't know how the market is going to continue to function to price it in.
It'll probably move to a cash market in just a regional basis where you're close to a place that's producing it unless you're going to pay massive fees to move it somewhere.
I don't know.
There's going to be a breakdown in systems of how we price commodities, specifically grains.
And then where's the knock-on from that?
I mean, that's just going to take down the rest of the system and the derivatives.
And if you can't price an asset...
And then there's other derivatives priced and based off of that asset, then everything down that daisy chain is corrupted and has to be revalued or stranded and gone to zero, whatever way that might go.
Well, you've hit upon something that's really key here.
Thank you for that segue into the financial system.
Because, as you know, tools such as commodities futures, when they are used correctly, they are designed to reduce risk for a producer, right?
So a farmer that grows wheat, he might buy wheat futures or sell wheat futures, depending on his financial goals.
And in doing so, he could even out the risk of his crop failure, let's say.
But when those tools are used by, let's say, speculators, or when derivatives are based on those tools, like you just mentioned, then the risk actually gets amplified, especially when those financial tools are owned by individuals who are not actually part of the production chain.
Because they're not farmers, but they're speculators or they're bankers.
And then they're amplifying risk because they want higher rates of return.
That kind of system can blow up, like the big short with housing.
But we can have a commodities bubble burst or a commodities risk apocalypse that bleeds into the whole financial system.
That's kind of what you were just describing, right?
And you could taper that onto silver as well.
If you look, you know, I know this financial might not go exactly with the grains, but I do believe they're intertwined because they're both commodities.
Like at the COMEX and over in London as well, the LBMA, they are running super thin on silver.
They literally only have five months left of physical silver.
So if we start to get...
You know, the discontinuities of grain pricing going to cash versus what is offered on contract.
And then, you know, something the same thing happens where there's non-delivery because so much demand for silver and they literally can't get it out.
I don't care if you're taking 1,000-ounce bars out or if you're going to get 10-ounce bars out.
It does not matter.
There won't be enough for anybody.
And once that realization, you're going to watch, again...
The paper market's going to break from the physicals and people will bid and pay whatever they can to get that asset.
It does not matter and it'll move to all cash at that point.
So contract pricing will mean nothing because nobody will abide by it.
Because you can't have whoever has it physically in hand wins.
Contracts are often counterfeit anyway.
They don't represent real physical silver underneath the contract.
It's just paper manipulation.
But you're right.
If people start demanding delivery on these options or futures contracts, then if enough people demand delivery, then the game is up because it exposes the fraud of the paper manipulation.
Now, I don't know enough about other markets like copper or platinum or nickel or what have you or iron or I don't know how much of a similar manipulation is taking place in those markets or even in grains or pork bellies or what have you.
Are you aware of similar manipulations in other metals beyond silver and gold?
Well, I'm not really familiar.
That's not really my wheelhouse, but at the grains, when it comes to do the same exact thing, when they want to take delivery and there is not enough there, we saw that happen with the nickel.
And they roll back all those trades.
The physical is not there to facilitate the demand.
So what happens when that's corn at this time?
Or it's wheat.
Everybody wants it, but then there's going to be a realization date and time that you will remember for the rest of your life when they knew that there wasn't enough grain for everybody that wanted to buy it.
And the frenzy that will cause, I tell you, that might be the very well thing that spills over and collapses the financial market.
They'll have to.
They'll need a distraction because when you're telling people on the globe, I'm sorry, we're not going to grow enough food, and we don't even have enough now to supply everybody who got money in their hand to come to buy it.
I'm sorry.
Some of you are going to have to take a dramatic cut, and we're going to all world work together, equality, we all have to cut to 1,200 calories.
Oh, you're not being inclusive.
You're eating more.
Oh, you're such a...
Fill in the blank XYZ that we heard through the COVID time to point fingers at the unprepared.
Hey, you guys are too prepared.
You're not fair.
Well, let me throw this into the mix and ask you a question along these lines.
I read financial reports recently that show that farming has actually been surprisingly profitable for those who can manage to produce in the United States over the last year.
So we have an issue of You know, inability to produce, right?
Creating scarcity because of supply chain, lack of parts for tractors, high diesel prices, transportation breakdowns with the barges and things like that.
But for those farmers that did manage to produce, they actually got good prices.
This last year.
And farmland itself has maintained value, even as housing prices have been falling as the real estate bubble is popping.
But farmland, that is viable production farmland, is not falling in price.
So wouldn't you say that farming, if you can actually get it done, could be a very viable and profitable business in 2023 and beyond?
I would, and I can add a little bit of information to that.
I spoke at a dairy conference in October, and they spoke exactly about that.
Farmers were flush with cash.
The problem was they were going to get massive tax bills with that, so they were all running out to buy anything they could to then put that reinvestment back in so they didn't get taxed.
So you have a choice.
Okay, let's say your tax bill is $50,000 because you made millions off of your crops.
You have a $50,000 U.S. tax bill.
You can reinvest that in a new machine, or you can pay the government $50,000 and get nothing out of it.
They were cash rich.
They were running out to buy anything and everything they could just to get rid of the cash so they didn't have the tax liability to it.
And moving to marginal lands like some, you know, you're talking about prime land is what you're describing there, prime farmland with the high acreage or yields on the acre there.
But it seems that there's a frenzy for leases on marginal land.
So what you're talking about, you know, if you got the holes in there and the ruts, you're going to have to come in and at least work those fields to get them up to some production.
But the world we're moving into, some production is better than none.
You can't expect 190 bushels per acre.
You know, that's what they did last year.
The USDA got it so wrong that they ended up in the 150s.
So if we're going to take that as a benchmark at 150 bushels per acre as the new high, you know, they'll be happy to get 40 to 50 bushels off a marginal acre because the prices are expected to go so high that some is better than none because they're going to move to cash pricing.
When this rift occurs of, you know, price discovery on a contract versus cash, It's happening.
It was so close with the delivery last year.
I think it's poised for 2023.
Okay.
All right.
That makes sense.
Now, another thought in all of this is that farmers that fail to be able to plant crops, often on marginal land that you were just talking about, they could still run cattle on that land because, of course, the cattle do their own foraging.
And the cattle can walk around ruts and erosion or craters or what have you, right?
They do their own thing.
So I could see a lot of situations where farmers, maybe they can't grow alfalfa this year or soybeans or corn, but they might run cattle for a season or two.
And at least in the United States, but in Europe, of course, they have a war against livestock because of the nitrogen output from the urine.
So in Europe, they don't even have that option in many places now, like the Netherlands, where they're shutting down thousands of farms.
So they're taking away one more option from a farmer.
It is.
You know, you talked about in the Ukraine, imagine how much fence has already been installed in Ukraine because they have, you know, a lot of animal husbandry there.
You got tanks and battle vehicles going through ripping down, you know, hundreds and thousands of miles of fence.
You know, that's not an easy task to put it back up again in a matter of minutes.
It takes a bit of time to bring that back in.
True.
Yeah, that's a really good point.
You're exactly right.
Fencing and fence maintenance is key to raising livestock.
But also then irrigation and the availability of water, which brings us back to the geoengineering.
Because when, you know, you saw over this last summer, right, that intense...
Heat wave and drought in Kansas and Oklahoma.
And we've had, of course, bad droughts in Texas over the years.
And when that happens, man, the ranchers just sell off entire herds or 80 to 85% of their herds.
And they just keep the best genetic specimens to kind of regrow the herds next year.
But they can't maintain the current population because there's no grass, there's no water, and then hay bales feed.
A big round bale can end up costing like $500 or some insane number, or more, in these droughts.
And that's all geoengineering, and it seems like that's accelerating too.
Yeah, because that was also spoken about at that dairy conference that I attended and spoke at was cattle genetics and then feed efficiency.
Because it's going to come down literally to grams of food into the cattle.
When we come into these food lean times, they're going to have to make a choice like they did in England, say 1550 to 1700 on which types of animals.
You saw a rollover and a changeover from cattle.
Into pig and sheep slash goat.
Because they were smaller, they could wild forage a lot better than a cow can, and there was less input into it.
And that lasted for 100 plus years.
And then you could see the roll out of that, too, where they started gravitating back toward cattle again once food production became more bountiful after the natural cycle had run its course.
Well, that's interesting.
And also given local production, a lot of people are using rabbits, for example, as a meat source.
You know, food experts like Marjorie Wildcraft talk about that, raising your own rabbits for food, feeding them garden scraps, and then harvesting the rabbits for meat.
So, I mean...
You can't get any more local than your backyard.
You're a hutch full of rabbits to skin and cook up, I guess, in a stew.
I can't do that, but a lot of people are doing that, and it definitely is a survival resource.
It is.
And you've got to think about, you know, like these redundancies and the frugality.
I mean, yeah, you could go shoot your squirrels every day and, you know, put out your safe traps and catch something every night.
I swear to you, 100% of nights that we would put a safe trap out, there would be something in it in the morning.
100% of the time.
You know, instead of trying to use snare traps, just use those little safe traps that the front snaps down on it.
You're always going to get something in it.
Yeah, but not necessarily something you want to eat.
That's right.
You know, armadillos and such.
I've eaten an armadillo.
I was down in Costa Rica and they had armadillo.
And Guatemala, they also had armadillo.
And I tried it a few times.
It had a zingy taste to it.
That's the best way I can describe it.
Zingy meat.
Okay.
I'm not sure I want that for breakfast.
Armadillo burrito breakfast.
Yeah.
Layer it on the oatmeal.
We're all good.
Yeah, right.
Extra gravy makes everything go down or just add wild boar bacon.
But okay, what else can people do?
Folks who are listening here, they're well-informed and they have a good sense of what's coming.
But in terms of a practical series of steps locally to secure a sustainable food supply, not just stockpiling food, but getting involved in local agriculture and so on, what can people do To help support an area that produces food on an ongoing basis.
First, find the people that are doing the same thing already so you're not starting from scratch and having to reinvent the wheel.
There are people everywhere that are doing this, and the awareness over the last two years or so has really pushed a lot of people into action in local areas.
You're always going to find a local community garden or somebody who's Doing chickens like we are or growing their own food.
Like you say, raising rabbits.
Sometimes they raise guinea pigs.
Again, it's not my thing, but there's a lot of options.
People have goats, sheep, that sort of thing.
If you have enough land, you could...
Fence in or use somebody who already has fenced in land and let maybe your cow run over there and have a cow share.
But again, we saw that, ooh, bad Amish.
Can't let people have raw milk and pure grass-fed, whatever.
But it's going to come down to the locality again.
I really believe that it's going to be the trading of skills.
Everybody's got a different skill.
The combining of skills that could be used to improve output, Or just straight up, like a dentist, if a dentist is in your community that would be willing to trade you dental time for a task such as setting up their garden or planning out their garden or food forest or whatnot.
Something familiar with food, a fish pond, whatever it is.
To be able to, you know, to move people and enhance their lives and make their transition into this new world that we're moving into more comfortable and more secure in the mind.
Because if you know you have a food forest in your front yard and backyard that looks like any other bunch of plants, so nobody who, you know, somebody who didn't really know wild foraging or plants would walk right by it, which is probably 95% of the population.
True.
So these things to give yourself longevity of security and longevity of peace of mind is really what's going to be key.
The short-term wins, yeah, yeah, applaud it, yay.
But you're really going to need to be looking out past, you know, replacing what you use because if we're going to go into this breakdown of supply chains, you're not going to be able to go to the store and get it.
You're going to have to regrow it or replace it yourself season after season after season.
And then hope everything improves in the next 10 or 15 years and we get back to some sort of normal.
Right, right.
And hope it's not highly irradiated croplands for the next 100 years following a thermonuclear war.
I mean, that's the other part of this.
I mean, look at Russia and the conflicts there and the risk of nuclear weapons being used or nuclear terrorism as maybe a false flag justification for war.
And think about what that's going to do, David, to the available croplands.
If you have a nuclear event in eastern Ukraine and the wind is blowing westward, you've just rendered all of Ukraine, you know, unfarmable for, what, 300 years?
Something like that from a cesium-137 fallout?
A similar thing with the east coast of the United States, right?
If you get the Poseidon secret Russian nuclear underwater unmanned submarine doomsday weapon, and that goes off, and you get this radioactive tidal wave that hits the east coast, well, guess what?
There's going to be radioactive water vapor in the air falling across all of the United States as well.
It's not just water fallout, it's radioactive water fallout.
It's like...
You know, they can ruin the whole world just like that.
And there's mad men at the helm right now.
This is the problem.
Yeah, and add in, you know, several thousand tons of depleted uranium rounds or whatever it might be, and then you're just adding to that contamination.
Because you can't tell me looking around over in Edok, You know, how much DU we put down there, and you're going to tell me that they're still going to farm after all depleted uranium was splattered all over the place and crossed the entire country.
You know, you're just adding, you know, on to that.
So I hope it doesn't come to that point, because that truly would be, if you wake up in the news in the morning, and that truly has happened, where there was some sort of device over the Ukraine, or Kazakhstan would be another one, We're literally going to have a famine that same year to the point where, yeah, I wouldn't want to be there.
That's really like biblical scary type of, you know, end times type of thing there on the famines.
And by the way, I saw some...
Oh, I was looking at a couple predictions for the year.
And here was one.
Economic disaster.
The prices will get so high in wheat that man will eat man.
Meaning the failed economy leads to cannibalism.
And I'm already looking at a zero, barely functioning supply chain.
No fertilizers, no pesticides, few herbicides.
And honey shall cost far more than candle wax.
So I'm sitting here going, hmm, we're getting pretty close to that.
A few more moves on the chessboard and we'll be right there where, then again, it's biblically.
You talk about the, you know, what was that?
A day's wage for a loaf of bread, something like this.
Hmm.
That's what you would expect after that detonation over that.
A day's wage for a loaf of bread.
Wow.
Wow.
And, you know, you just mentioned cannibalism.
So, a very concerning trend to see, but there's been in the media a lot of talk of cannibalism over the last year or so and the way things are going here.
It might be a very popular YouTube channel like Cannibalism Recipes or like Human Jerky.
Do it yourself with a dehydrator and some soy sauce.
You know, I mean, it sounds crazy, but this is the world that we appear to be going into.
And I have the question for you about, you know, cities versus rural living.
So if you're in a city and we suffer a catastrophic breakdown of diesel fuel or transportation, then you're in a food desert instantly.
Where if you're in a rural area and you've had connections with local farmers and producers of some kind, and you have some surface water, you've got some ponds and streams and so on, you have options.
I mean, they may not be pleasant, but you have options.
But if you're in the city, you're eating your neighbor, you know?
I mean, sadly, that's what it seems like it's going to come to unless the global supply chain is fixed here.
Yeah, you know, and that's a great point you brought up because, you know, for me, there's lines I will never cross.
And I don't care how hungry I get, I will not eat another human.
I would prefer death to eat another human.
But at the same time, when somebody's coming in, a group of people are coming to rob your supplies and overtake you in your home.
There's lines you're going to have to draw for yourself mentally before any of this happens.
And I already know where a lot of my lines are in terms of light versus this dark vibration where we sit in this battle between literal good and evil.
And I've drawn lines everywhere, and I will not cross so many of them.
Regardless of what happens to me, there's just some things that will never, ever do.
You've got to be ready to make those choices already.
Other people will cross those lines because we live in a very immoral society, right?
And I know you realize that.
I'm just pointing it out that even though you're not willing to eat your neighbor, your neighbors are probably willing to eat you.
Well, that's where we're going to have a problem.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Okay, we don't need to go into details of what that will entail, but I will just tell people, don't Don't eat your neighbors after you've riddled them with lead in self-defense, okay?
Because it's cannibalism and lead poisoning, two rolled into one.
Not a good scene.
So try to live near reasonable people who are preppers who don't have to eat each other.
How about that?
Could be like a New Year's resolution, you know, for 2023, neighborhood-wide community resolution.
Let's not eat each other for a whole year.
How about that?
Well, I'm moving into the neighborhood near you because you'd have to think on top of that lead poisoning inside, it'd be cesium poisoning, radiation poisoning inside the flesh too.
Like, you know, if you get to that point where people are going to start eating each other, like really the hygiene standards would be so low.
And I'm sure, Mike, you can attest to more, way more than I can.
And if your hygiene gets to a certain point, then your body doesn't function any longer correctly.
Your mind doesn't either.
At what point can you let hygiene go until it becomes a serious mental and physical health issue for the self, not to others?
Well, it would be to others, too.
But, I mean, you wouldn't eat somebody who's been living on the street.
Like, would you pull somebody out of San Francisco, the most grungiest person that's been living in filth like that for years and years and go eat them?
Like, no, you wouldn't.
Well, look, I don't know.
I mean, first of all, this conversation took a really dark turn here just about a minute ago.
But you make a point, which is because I've done a lot of lab testing.
I've tested a lot of human hair versus wild animal hair, for example, for heavy metals.
And I can tell you that human hair, even my own, is way more contaminated than wild rabbit hair, which I have tested, and wild hog hair that I've also tested because I found animals on the ranch.
And I clip some hair, take it to the lab, and I test it, right?
And wild animals are very clean compared to people.
And I guarantee you, folks, that if people, like, people meat would not pass even the insanely low standards of the USDA for meat consumption because the disease, the contamination, the microplastics, everything – the microplastics, everything – And plus, you know, again, I'm sorry that this is such a dark topic, but these days, half the people are spike protein factories.
Like, do you even want to get close to them, you know?
They're shedding spike protein all over the place, which the wild animals are not yet.
So...
I don't know.
I know the USDA is there to protect us.
There are protectors.
Right.
They only want the best for us to make sure we live clean, healthy lives.
Are they going to have a cannibalism standard coming out soon?
It's like USDA cannibalganic certified or something.
It passes our low standards for eating your neighbors.
People are probably freaking out hearing this, but these are conversations that are not going to be unusual in another...
Yeah, and look at that redundancy, too.
Medical gear, and we talked a bit before the show.
I roll with a pretty big med kit in my car because I'm out in farm country.
I've been hurt on my own land where I needed stitches, and I didn't have the proper gear.
I've had somebody else out here cut themselves deeply that needed stitches.
I've rolled by some dudes who were chainsawing and had a severe accident out there, and this thing...
A part of the log fell on his foot, even though he had a boot, it scraped through the boot and ripped part of it, like the top layer of his skin off.
Luckily, I was driving by.
And then I saw another guy with an accident.
Some kids pulled out in front of this old-timer.
Cool guy.
He was in his 70s, and his hand was all mangled up.
But I had stuff to be able to offer right there to help another human.
But it got wet.
I had an emergency bottle of water in a glass bottle and during that super freeze it broke and I didn't even think about that and I came out and there was water on the bottom of the car and I thought, where?
What?
And my whole medical bag was completely saturated.
So, you know, Mike, this is a question for you.
I got the non-stick pads and these sort of things.
Those dried out really well.
And then I have large bandages and then I got transparent film dressing, the 4 inch by 4.75 inch.
Those dried out pretty well.
But I got a lot of band-aids too, like butterfly bandages and these types of things in a regular boo-boo kit, like that kind of band-aid.
What happens after they get wet and you put them in a food dehydrator like I did?
I let them dry for about six hours on 135 degrees Fahrenheit to try to dry my med kit out again.
The non-inherent non-stick pads for compresses, those all dried out pretty well.
Well, the bandages, as long as the packaging is still intact, they should still be sterile.
However, the adhesive...
It may have gone into the water solution and the adhesive may no longer be on the bandage.
It may be on the inside of the package.
So it might be useless if you need adhesive qualities.
So I just use tape, regular medical tape to wrap it around and stick it on instead of the adhesive itself?
Yeah, you know, a lot of those bandages are not that great anyway.
It's good to have sterile gauze and then medical tape.
You know, stronger bandaging type of materials.
But I would suggest you replace that supply.
If it got soaked and you had to dry it out, you probably can't trust whether it's sterile.
The packaging is probably, you know, not trustworthy at this point.
But also...
You know, travel.
I carry extra water too, but I carry it in these large aluminum, like, one liter bottles.
They're aluminum.
So they can expand and contract and they don't shatter.
And that's been okay.
I also recommend, of course, having a small camping water filter in your vehicle with a pump, so you can pump some water and clean it as needed.
But it's interesting that you rolled up on some people who had some serious accidents and chainsaw accidents.
I was just talking about that the other day.
Let me ask you, David, have you ever run over yourself with a snowplow?
No, never.
Okay, that's good.
That's good because someone famous just did that recently and that did not go well.
Chest injuries, almost bled out, lost 40% of his blood, the whole deal.
Neighbors saved him by applying a tourniquet, got him into the ER, and he's, you know, fighting for survival there.
In these rural situations, people injure themselves all the time with chainsaws and tractors and combines and dozers and whatever else.
I mean, injuries are incredibly common, even with just like hunting knives.
You know, people stab themselves in the hands all the time, like opening avocados and things like that.
Folks, be safety-minded about all this stuff.
This is not a time to end up in the emergency room.
All right, but David, I can't believe it's already been almost 50 minutes.
Yeah, can I ask you one last question about blood for a second?
Yeah, sure, go ahead.
If you were to come up on a person, say the snowplow person, and they were bleeding out like that, and you just didn't have a chance to get to latex, gloves...
I mean, what is the contamination risk factor there of actually going in and that barehanded just to get the tourniquet on to stabilize that and stop the bleeding compared to your own protection of somebody else's blood?
Well, me personally, I would go ahead and rush in and get my hands bloody if necessary to apply the tourniquet.
I wouldn't worry about it.
But that's only because I've got a lot of knowledge of how to detox and I've got a good immune system and so on.
But if you have open wounds or scrapes of any kind, obviously you could get contaminated quite badly.
If I had latex gloves, yeah, I'd put them on.
But if I didn't have time, if the guy's femoral artery is pumping gushing blood, I'm not going to look for gloves.
I'm going to go in there, clamp down above the wound.
Basically, I'm going to be squeezing the guy's leg high up in the crotch area, strapping a belt on there, finding a stick, twisting that sucker, or anything I can do to make it crazy tight.
That's what I'm going to do.
I don't care if I get bloody.
Okay, that's valuable knowledge right there.
Take your shirt off.
Make a linear bundle of cotton out of a t-shirt or something.
Wrap that around.
Put a stick in it.
Twist that up.
Remember, you've got to twist it until the person basically is screaming in pain.
It has to be so crazy tight that you think his leg is going to fall off, but that's the only way to stop because the blood pressure through that artery, it's a big artery.
It's the biggest.
And the only way to stop the blood is to make it insanely tight to where the person is probably screaming at you and begging you to stop.
But there you go.
Yeah, and I hope our medical facilities still continue to run because, you know, right now we have the blessed option of a first-world problem of, oh, you might have to wait in line when you get there, but at least you can get them to better medical care that can generally, I'm going to say generally, fix that.
But what happens if we're in a breakdown scenario where then you're there and you can't take them anywhere else, then what?
After you put tourniquet and everything on, then what?
I mean, we've done these battle injuries in the Civil War thing.
Are they going to bite the belt and then are you going to shove an arrow through there with gunpowder on it or what?
No.
No, I'm not going to try that.
No.
You know what I mean.
Right.
But, yeah, if you lose 40% of your blood and there's no ER... You know, not a good outcome.
It's good not to cut your arteries open, pretty much is the answer there.
Be careful with chainsaws and blades and machinery and bullets, you know, firearms, the whole deal.
Don't shoot yourself or your friends.
Oh my gosh.
There's going to be way more injuries just from me working on the farm.
You can attest to this, Mike, as well.
How many hand-cut injuries do you get?
Unless you're wearing gloves all the time, things sticking in you, barbs coming through, sometimes different briars and things.
You're just going to get stuck by thorns and anything plus cuts.
Your hands get really cut and so does your face sometimes because things come slapping back at you, whipping back.
That is true.
You know, knee, shin cuts, all this kind of stuff.
You're going to get way more cut, way more injured working out on the farm, tools, and even planting a simple garden.
Well, yeah, that's true.
I get scraped, cut my skin open just walking by a fence opening where there was a piece of wire still sticking out from the original fence construction, right?
That could have been bent back into a rounded shape, but it was sticking out.
So that happens.
And then you add animals to the mix, right?
Like you're trying to load horses or load donkeys or load cattle into a trailer.
Now you have real injury potential, getting stomped on, breaking hands, elbows, arms, all kinds of stuff like that.
So that's why the real cowboys are some tough dudes.
They are tough.
They can get it done and walk away.
Yeah, can you imagine?
Yeah, you just pop the whole visual in there trying to get animal loaded.
Oh, they're so heavy and so fast, you know?
Yep, strong.
Strong, motivated.
And in Texas, we have...
They're motivated to get away from you.
Like, how motivated are we to get away from the system?
Because those animals are motivated to get away.
We need to be that motivated to get away from the system and get off centralized delivery immediately.
Right, right.
While the world governments are trying to corral us into a Holocaust camp, basically.
So it's a race for survival.
But anyway, we've covered a fascinating array of subjects and even some pretty dark topics here.
Is there any way to summarize this or anything you want to add here before we wrap this up?
I do, because I'd written a note to myself when you and I were talking about geoengineering.
You know, if you were to orchestrate a heat wave like you're talking about with harp technologies, because I also saw this New story that just came out this week.
We're going to use the HAARP facility in Alaska to bombard or send signals to a passing asteroid and try to affect the perturbation of it or its orbit somehow using HAARP from Earth to actually target an object in space.
So if you think if they're at that potential where they're actually going outer atmosphere, literally leaving our ionosphere out into space to target an object, How difficult would it be to blast it to create a heat wave or a high pressure system around an area?
It's been so drought-ridden in the West for so long that it's affecting Mississippi River water levels now, where they couldn't even export the crop that we had this year.
At the end of the export season, they were stymied because the water levels weren't high enough.
They unloaded all that grain along the banks of the Mississippi River.
Now, how easy would it be to now create a huge, massive deluge and wash all those stored grains downstream during the season in spring?
Just saying.
It can go either direction, creating a rain or creating drought.
You created the drought artificially knowing that that would be the end result, that all the storage facilities up and down the Mississippi would get chock-a-block completely full, that these grain shuttles would unload on the banks and then they would cover them with temporary tarp.
But then if you knew that would be the full Mississippi up and down for 150, 200 miles of just grain stacked up on the cover by tarp, then obviously you send the biggest flood in 100 years down during the spring melt season and wash all that away.
And then, you know, that's just nasty right there.
And I've been looking at the possibilities of that happening.
So that is actually one of my calls for 2023.
All that grain stored on the Mississippi because of low water levels.
We'll be washed away in a mega flood this spring.
And I never said anything about geoengineering, but I thought I would because you did.
Well, and of course, if that happens, the media will blame it on climate change, which is absurd.
And then they'll say, this is why we need to make sure there are no tractors that run on combustion engines.
So they'll use the crisis to further attack the food supply and impair farming crop yield potential.
So no matter what happens, the globalists are in a war against the food supply and food production.
So it's going to get interesting, and people are going to get hungry, and the good news is a lot of people are going to learn how to grow food, because if they don't, they will die.
So it's like learn or die.
It's a hopeful time for humanity to pull together to come through some of this darkness that is overshadowing us in this false authority which you speak to, that We should not obey, and they're going to tell us to do many things.
This white lung seems to be sweeping everywhere.
I don't think it's the same COVID animal.
I think it's a completely different animal, at least what I've been seeing out of China.
It's something way different.
It might be co-packaged as something COVID-ish, but it is definitely different, in my opinion.
And that's another wild card to think about, too.
What if it takes so many people to deal with the dead that society stops?
That's what happened in the 1500s.
Remember when they moved from cattle to pig and sheep?
There was a dropout of any records kept in England for 10 years because they were so busy cleaning up the death that there was no records kept.
A full dropout of records for a full 10 years in England of all places.
That's insane.
Wow, a country that loves to keep records of everything.
Yeah.
How can that happen?
Okay.
Well, I tell you what, David, let's keep in touch.
We'll bring you back on in a little while to give us updates of what's happening.
And I would say to our audience, you know, just stay alert, be prepared.
I want to make sure people can find you.
Your channel name is called Adapt2030.
And you're on brighttown.com and other platforms.
And you've also got the brighttown.tv broadcast every other Friday, 2 to 3 p.m.
Eastern.
What else do you want to mention, David?
Well, that's it.
And I've also started the Opportunity Report.
It's a subscription service for comparing pre- and post-eruptive data from the Hunga Tonga eruption and where that's cooling on our planet first, which crop zones are being affected most, and where you would expect the greatest losses Where do people get that
report?
Where do people get that report?
Well, the report right now is by request, or if I think that it might help your business or your firm help us move through these problems and find solutions together.
Because once you see where the problem areas are, solutions will come out.
Where there's a need for a solution, it will arise.
I really firmly believe that.
Maybe it's too optimistic.
So how can people contact you to request this report?
You can write an email, send it to podcast at oilseedcrops.org.
Okay.
And that's based off the Mini Ice Age Conversations podcast.
That's the email contact that I'm using for this platform right now.
Okay.
Starting on the website, getting all that all built out as we speak right now this week.
So for now...
I'm going to be using podcast at oilseacrops.org.
Okay.
But again, it's not just for, hey, send it to me.
I'm a casual reader.
If you have a business and a need for this information, that's who I'm targeting it towards.
Somebody who has the resources that can actuate on the resources to put solutions in play immediately to help us get through this.
Okay.
Good enough.
Thanks for letting me ramble.
Thank you, Mike.
No, it's all good, David.
Thank you for taking the time and staying late with us.
I mean, thanks for being willing to talk about just about anything here, because we covered a lot of strange topics.
But nevertheless, it's a strange world.
So I would just say, folks, pay attention to this.
Stay informed.
Get prepared.
It's going to be an interesting, well, decade, I believe, in terms of food challenges.
So, thank you all for listening.
Thank you, David, for joining.
And to everybody listening, you can also repost this, if you wish, on your own channels.
Just give credit to David Dubine and Adapt2030.
Of course, I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.com.
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