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Dec. 15, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Tom Hughes and Mike Adams discuss the Rapture, End Times and spiritual preparedness
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Well, welcome, friends.
Mike Adams here, the founder of Brighteon.com.
And today we have a very, very special guest.
This man has been requested by so many of my listeners and fans who also hear his videos and his message.
His name is Tom Hughes.
He's the founder of Hope for Our Times, which is at hopeforourtimes.com, and also the 412 Church.
And he is an expert, has an incredible depth of knowledge about prophecy and end times, but a lot of the issues affecting us, such as transhumanism.
So we're going to have a really fascinating conversation.
Tom Hughes, it's an honor, sir, to have you on.
Thank you for joining me.
Mike, I'm really looking forward to this.
I have been looking forward to it, and I can't believe it's taken us this long to connect, but I'm glad to finally be here.
Well, I am honored that you're here.
Thank you for taking the time.
And let's just start out with the big fireworks here.
Everybody wants to know, are we in the end times?
And what can we expect from here forward?
I know it's a big, impossible question, but at least that's a place to start.
What are your thoughts?
I would say, when you define the end times, what is it actually?
Biblically, it's the tribulation period.
We're not in the tribulation period yet.
But we are experiencing the build-up to it.
When you look at what the book of Revelation teaches, we can look at both the Old Testament and the New Testament.
And the Bible's very clear that the closer you get to that tribulation period, Everything is going to start to take place faster and faster.
Hence, the building of a global empire.
The increase of pestilences.
Whether or not they're man-made or not man-made, which is another subject.
Economic catastrophe.
We can see what's coming.
I mean, you look, you go, this is just unbelievable.
So all these things are increasing.
The collapse of America.
The evil corruption.
We're watching all of these things increase.
So we're not yet...
In the tribulation period, but I believe we are exceptionally close to it.
The Bible gives us many warning signs to look for so we could be aware of the day in which we live.
And man, we are close.
Yeah, I'd like you to speak to some of the signs.
And let me just throw a couple of hints out there.
When I was a child in school, I never could have imagined that as an adult, I would be looking at schools that have drag queen story time for children with drag queens dressed as demons.
So that's weird.
That's horrifying.
And you've got this WEF guy, Yuval Harari, who's talking like he wants the end of humanity and things like that.
Are those a couple of signs?
Or what do you see as signs that we're heading toward the tribulation?
Yeah, I would say those are some of the things.
I mean, when you look at the, I mean, a drag queen story hour, I mean, that's just totally bizarre.
Just a few years ago, you think, nah, this is, we wouldn't be here to see this.
Well, we are.
And it's amazing.
I'll tell you what really bugs me, Mike, is it's not as much the drag queen story hour, it's the parents that actually bring their kids to that stuff.
That is so bizarre.
Yeah.
It is.
I mean, to me, that's wicked.
And now, if you use the term groomer, you're a bigot or whatever it is.
Look, these parents are groomers.
They're grooming their own children for really bad things.
So we've reached this age.
The Book of Romans describes a time when God will give the people over to their own.
They'll become earth worshippers.
It's what Romans chapter 1 teaches.
They'll worship the creation rather than the creator.
We're watching that with the climate things.
Also, God says, the people be so perverted in their mind, he'll give them over to their own lusts.
Drag Queen Story Hour is...
It's evidence of a nation that has been given over to these things.
God's turned them over.
It's like God says, alright, you want this?
This is what you're going to get.
And the price is going to be rather significant to the point where God says, I will give them a reprobate mind.
Not just meaning a mind that's just totally bizarre or perverted, but a mind that is so far gone.
Even in its own best interest, it'll make decisions that will destroy itself.
In other words, the people in charge, the way the Bible describes it, the people in charge will make decisions, thinking really to please themselves, But in the process, they're destroying themselves and they're destroying everything around them.
That's what we see the leaders doing right now in Washington.
We see it on school councils.
We hear from judges.
We see it with teachers.
And listen, not all teachers are bad.
I have some friends...
In the public school system that are fantastic.
But the problem is it's rampant.
It's like a cancer.
So, yeah, these things are definitely a sign.
This perverted place that we have landed, Jesus himself described it as being like the days of Lot when you get to the end, and that's what the days of Lot would describe where we are now.
Then you throw in Yuval Noah Harari.
I mean, this guy says we...
It talks about the thought of God being foolish, and he says, we will be gods.
And he even teaches that we will live forever.
Listen, Mike, that's the same lie that was from the Garden of Eden in Genesis chapters, in the early chapters of Genesis, when the serpent approaches Eve and says, did God really say that?
Then he said, if you eat of the fruit, he knows you won't die.
He knows that you will just be like him.
You'll be like God.
That was the lie.
This is the same thing these guys from the World Economic Forum are saying now.
If you go along with our transhumanism, if you're willing to be augmented, you'll never die.
You will ascend and you will be like God.
Yuval Harari has millions and millions of followers worldwide.
And they believe what they're pushing.
That's the shocking thing.
They believe they are gods, and they believe that God himself doesn't exist.
In fact, was it at the WEF that said that Jesus is fake news, or the original fake news?
Yeah, it was Yuval Harari himself who said that.
There we go.
Those were like his exact words.
You know, it's interesting, Mike, if you go back, let's say 20 years in the world of Protestant Christianity in America, you had these faith teachers that would say, hey, you can be like God.
I mean, it was like you can speak into existence your millions of dollars or whatever, right?
I mean...
It's bad in religion, but this has become a global thing.
But it feeds to the dark side of humanity.
And the dark side of humanity seems to be enjoying this.
So speaking of the dark side of humanity, what we've watched come out shockingly over the last three or four years, it brings up a question in my mind that I'm sure you hear all the time, but I'll pose it for you here publicly.
And the answer is, I mean, the question is, excuse me, where is God?
What level of evil is he waiting for?
To intervene because there were lots of interventions in, you know, Sodom and Gomorrah and evil gone awry and so on, especially in the Old Testament.
But what's taking so long?
Because it's getting crazy, crazy evil.
Well, that's a really good question.
I don't know how much, it's like how much longer, how much worse can things get?
So let's just go back to pre-COVID. We're allowed to talk about COVID on your program, which is great.
You can talk about everything.
You can talk about everything.
That's one of the things I really, really, really appreciate about you.
And so just go back pre-COVID. Nobody would have thought in 2019 that we would be here now.
And you look, I mean, I never thought I'd be here to live through lockdowns and the insanity stuff, drag queens, Tory Hour, all these things.
Unbelievable what's happening.
How much further are we going to go?
Balcianaga or whatever that company is called.
Listen, it's obviously they're promoting child pornography.
Well, what in the world's going on with them?
Nothing, because these globalists, these elites, they're all involved with this stuff.
I mean, I could talk about this probably for hours, so I won't go too far down that path, but it's absolutely wicked.
The problem is We don't know how much further along this path we're going to be.
I don't suspect a lot further, but God does say in Revelation chapters 14 and 15, he talks about the sinfulness, the wickedness of humanity being so full, he calls them like grapes of wrath, so full that you're spewing over with wickedness, but God allows it to get that full.
So it's going to continue to go this direction, and it's going to get worse.
Here's something kind of weird, is the Pope announced this just the other day that he had visions that things were going to get far worse than they already are.
I'm thinking the Bible tells us that, and the Pope is part of the problem.
The Pope is the one driving most of these bad policies of the World Economic Forum, the UN, the Biden administration, climatology, or whatever you want to call it.
He's driving these things.
And so it is going to continue to get worse, but the Bible also tells us in 2 Peter 3 that God's desire is that none should pair.
So in the process, there are a lot of people who are waking up.
There's two different sides.
There's the woke side, which is totally lost.
And then there's those who are actually waking up, and they're seeing the truth.
They're saying, hey, something is seriously wrong.
There's something that's seriously whacked.
There's a delusion that seems to be going across the land, especially in the Western world.
When you have Putin from Russia and Xi from China, you have virtually any Islamic country is going to tell you the United States is absolutely in, they've lost their minds, this woke stuff.
I mean, they're looking at us going, you guys are sick.
What is the matter with you?
Even the arms trafficker guy that was just released, what was his name, Victor Bout, I think, he did that interview in Russia, and he says American culture has gone insane, but in jail, the American people in jail were normal and rational, but outside of jail, the culture has gone completely insane, is tearing itself apart.
This is an arms trafficking dealer talking about how bad U.S. culture has become.
Yeah.
So you have him.
I read that, the whole thing.
And yeah, he's saying America has lost its way.
This is not the America we knew.
So you have this arms trafficking dealer, which is one of the most notorious arms traffickers in the world.
Who can look at America and say, wow, they're willing to trade Brittany Griner or whatever her name is, this pot-smoking person.
This is insane.
You go to prison, listen, these Balcianica people, they'd be killed in prison.
The people in prison have moral standards against child sex trafficking.
That is correct.
They actually murder child rapists in prison.
You know what?
I'll tell you what else.
I travel to the Mideast rather frequently.
I don't care if you're Muslims or Jews, but especially the Muslims in the streets, they don't put up with that.
Your kids, Mike, are actually safe in the streets over in the Middle East because they do not put up with that.
When our kids were young, we used to go there.
We didn't have to worry about them.
If they got lost, they'd get returned because nobody messes with them.
They have standards.
They don't wait for a court to decide what to do with a child with a predator.
They'll take matters into their own hands.
So I have a...
You know, a couple of theories I want to run past you on this.
The rise of demonism, it seems like it's a kind of almost demonic possession in some people, or demonic influence, or demonic presence, or something like that, that has caused a lot of otherwise normal people, it seems, to turn into these evil demons.
Do you think that that, is that in your mind just a Is that a metaphor?
Or is something like that actually happening?
What do you think?
You know, I actually, I believe it's actually happening.
I'm not someone who goes around casting out demons or anything like that.
But you can't, I mean, how do you describe the wickedness of some of these things?
Well, if we just take this Balcieniga thing.
You have the Kim Kardashians of the world and all these people that are involved.
They're willing to say, wow, that's a really bad thing, but they sure don't separate from them.
When you look at some of the facts on this Baal Sienega thing, I mean, I have it.
I got the pictures of it.
They have Baal, B-A-A-L, which is a god, this evil, demonic god.
And that's, you know, so you start tying that in with the whole Balcienica thing in their own publications to sell their wares to the rich people that are out there.
And you're thinking, my goodness, they're actually, they're openly bringing back The worship about this demonic God into their presence.
I think a lot more of that is going on than I ever would have imagined just a few years ago.
If you look back into the time when Jesus was here, there's no doubt that demons were cast out.
There's several different passages that you have in the New Testament where there's demons.
We do know that when you read the book of Revelation, there's going to be a significant increase of demonic and satanic worship that takes place.
So what would make me think that there would be less now than at the time of Jesus?
Well, when I look at it, I should expect it.
And I mean, just when you hear the stuff that Nancy Pelosi says, am I allowed to talk about Nancy Pelosi here?
I mean, we just...
Yes.
We mock her daily.
What do you mean?
Okay, good.
So, I mean, you look at her and you hear the things that come out of her mouth or these other people in Congress or the Senate, you're going, what?
I mean, how could you go?
I mean, I don't want to talk about the drag queen story hour the whole time, but I mean, how could you get there without being demonically influenced?
There has to be demon influence in this.
And as far as Balenciaga that you mentioned, I forgot who said this, but they said if you break down that company name into Latin, it's Balenciaga, which means that Bal is king.
And that's...
It's something like that.
In the Latin, it was going around the internet about a week or two ago.
That's what it came out to.
Actually, I did a lot of fact-checking on it.
It turns out it wasn't the Latin.
This is the funny part.
And one of the fact-checkers says, it's not in the Latin.
This whole thing is made up.
Well, okay, but then they went on and said, however, if you do it in this particular language, it does come out Baal as king.
I'm going, you fact-checkers are such idiots, you just proved, regardless, it still comes out the same way.
So when you look at it this way, and I know from Old Testament studies, from Baal and Molech, you have these gods, they were pagan gods, they were demonic.
And you had child sacrifices that were involved.
So we have what?
How many babies have been aborted in America?
70 million or 60 million?
Oh, I think those are the low estimates.
Yeah, okay.
Hundreds of millions.
Okay, so you take...
Yeah, no kidding.
You take the abortion industry, and now we have it with...
Aborting babies isn't enough.
So, well, now that since these babies are born, let's just do another type of sacrifice with them, turning over to these sexual gods, because that's what they're doing.
Children are sex objects.
The head of Planned Parenthood specifically said that.
So you're looking at these things going, okay, this is the direction that these people think Whether or not they are possessed, which I believe personally a lot of them are, or not, they are doing things that would please the demons.
Right, right, they are.
But what strikes me is that I think Satan always plays tricks on people to trick them into consenting to possession or demonic influence.
And that leads me to my next question.
It's on the same topic.
Mark of the beast and digital currency systems.
Because my understanding is that if you surrender to the digital currency system and you take the mark upon your hand or your forehead and you participate in that, then you are, in fact, inviting Satan into your life.
Now, is that a stretch on my part to think that?
Or is that reflected in scripture in your understanding?
Partly.
So, I would say this, digital currency in and of itself is not the mark of the beast.
But I think it is the tool that's going to be used to implement the mark of the beast.
So, because, I mean, you've done a lot on digital currency, just on your own program.
Well, I mean, just like private cryptos, but I mean the central bank.
Oh yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
I'm not talking about Bitcoin.
I'm talking about, yeah, the CBDCs.
What they're talking about now in America, they already started to work on in China.
The UK announced the other day they're going for it.
We're in a 12-week testing trial system right now for CBDCs.
And just for all of your listeners, I'm sure most of your listeners are pretty sharp and they already know, but the difference between the Bitcoins Ethereum and those and CBDCs is the problem that the Feds have and the governments of the world have with the Bitcoins is they're decentralized digital currency.
They don't have control over them.
The governments don't like that.
They want to control the people.
So that's why they're going with a centralized bank digital currency.
They're going to have to eliminate these other digital currencies.
I believe, Mike, that we're going to see more and more people Be taken out when it comes to digital currencies.
They're going to have to paint such a bad picture of digital currencies to the public that people are going to demand a central bank digital currency.
Because once it goes to the CBDC, the central bank digital currency is centralized.
And once you're locked into that centralized system, they can completely control what you can buy, what you can't buy.
It's a surveillance system too.
Oh, surveillance system on steroids.
They're going to know every single thing that you do.
They're going to be able to control you for your carbon credits.
All of that.
However, and that's coming fast.
I don't know how fast, but it is coming.
Because, you know, governments...
Yeah.
So here's a practical question that I have that I think a lot of our listeners would share.
In your opinion, then...
If I have a business, I have an online retail business, as everybody knows, Health Ranger Store.
What if the government says, well, in order to conduct business now, you must use central bank digital currencies, and all the banks go into that.
As a Christian, what are the boundaries that I must hold on that?
Am I allowed to sell products If I'm forced into that system, or must I reject it all and close down my business in order to maintain my Christian values?
That's a real question that people have.
Yes, I've got that same question, because if you and I are still here, we're both going to have the same problem on the exact same day.
Yeah, it's true.
And so, I mean, I've had to think through this.
I've had this question many times, especially over the last few weeks in different forms.
So let me deal with the Mark of the Beast situation first, because I think they'll help us to understand.
So the Mark of the Beast, you can't have a Mark of the Beast until you have an Antichrist.
One particular person has to be recognized because in Revelation chapter 13, false prophet is there with Antichrist.
You have the image of the beast.
And then at that point, no one can buy or sell unless they receive his mark and worship him.
Or his image.
So it is a specific act of worship.
So as Central Bank is rolled out right now, let's say it's rolled out tomorrow.
It's not going to be an act of worship.
People say, well, you're submitting to the government or whatever.
Well, right now, when you're trading money in fiat currency, guess what you're agreeing with?
You're agreeing with the government.
Central bank system, yeah.
Yeah, you are.
You're already doing that.
But we're not at a point of worship yet.
But here's the part for you and I, Mike, that we're going to have to work through.
You're ahead of the curve on almost everybody on this.
I could probably learn a lot from you.
But I think that, quite frankly, learning how to work within the system but not within the system It's going to be a process.
And being able to move forward and recognize, okay, how am I still going to get my groceries?
How am I going to get around?
How am I going to do these things?
But still understand we do not have a mark of the beast yet.
I watched one of your videos not too long ago.
We operate within the system that God has created.
We have the will to make a decision.
We have to consent, as you said a few minutes ago, to agree with the devil, whether it's for possession or when it comes to the mark of the beast.
So we can consent to spend money, but once it comes to consent of worship, Baby, that's a whole different ballgame.
When you have the implementation of the Mark of the Beast, we have to have a ten-kingdom system, according to the Bible, and an antichrist, and then it is an act of worship.
So I think what's happening with the CBDCs now and how they're going to roll out is going to be a test.
They're going to see who's compliant, who is not.
I suspect people like us and all of our viewers are not going to be as compliant as others.
That's my guess.
So they're going to get a compliance level, and they aren't going to lock it down right away.
There's going to be some time.
There's going to be some incentives to be willing to buy in.
And most people are going to say, man, this is really good.
Kind of like with the shot, right?
Hey, this is really good.
Isn't this wonderful?
Until things start happening.
Yeah.
Yeah, they'll have universal basic income incentives, so you get stimulus money, but only if you sign up for the system.
But I like how you said, so what we can set, we can frame in our own minds that we are operating behind enemy lines on this planet, in this realm, and behind enemy lines, we may have to go through the motions of the regime in order to function, in order to get solutions we may have to go through the motions of the regime in order to function, in order
And perhaps we even say, you know, pray to God, God, offer, please offer me protection, as we use the tools of the enemy to remain viable in doing what we're doing to spread truth.
Would that be like an acceptable strategy, you think, in the eyes of God?
I think it's spot on.
In fact, I was interviewing somebody a week or two ago about central bank digital currencies and he said, look, the system is developing in such a way that no one will be able to escape it.
And I said, however, when you look at the book of Revelation, there are people who survive.
We know that, who don't take the mark of the beast.
And he goes, I believe it's going to be partly through supernatural protection.
So somehow, behind enemy lines, the way you described it, so spot on.
And that's how it's going to be.
Behind enemy lines, operating, and yet have supernatural protection.
People who are in the military probably would really understand this.
Also people who have been involved in, let's say, A drug dealer or something like that, right?
You're in there working within, trying not to get caught, going along with it.
You have a facade on the outside, but you're really doing something else.
There's going to be a way to survive this.
I don't know what it is yet, but there has to be a way to survive it.
Personally, I think I'm going to be raptured before it gets to the mark of the beast.
But regardless of that or not is...
The digital currency at first will seem, hey, this is good.
Mike, I also think of it like this.
If you take somebody who, let's say they're worth $50 million right now, or let's just say $10 million, and they've worked really hard all their life, they're saving up for their kids, their kids are going to have inheritance, they have some homes, they've got a great business and all that.
All of a sudden, central bank digital currencies rolls around, let's say, two years from now.
And they're told, well, guess what?
You may have $10 million in the bank, but you're going to have this universal basic income.
We're going to take everything out of the bank, and you're going to be flatlined like everybody else, and you have to comply.
Man, that is going to tweak people right now that aren't even thinking about it.
Because those people are going to really be bent when this thing gets implemented.
So at first, I think it's going to be a very soft sell.
You have $10 million in the bank, you're going to have the equivalent of $10 million in digital currencies.
At first, it's going to sound good.
Hey, this works.
And then the noose is going to tighten.
Well, I've thought about this a lot, and given that there's programmable money in the central bank digital currency system, I want to offer this as a variation of what you just said.
I think they will allow people to transfer the $10 million into the system, but it will expire in 24 months.
So they force you to spend it, which will be economic stimulus to keep the zombie economy looking like it's functioning, but then two or three years down the road, you're just as broke as everybody else, like you said.
But I think they'll just have expiration dates on the money.
I agree.
I do also.
In fact, I've read quite a bit about that it probably will, especially if they have universal basic income.
Nobody's going to be able to save.
If you work this out long enough, you know, Klaus Schwab says, World Economic Forum, by 2030, you'll have nothing and be happy.
Well, you know, a lot of people are not going to be happy.
H.G. Wells, in his work, The New World Order, this is 100 years ago he wrote it.
He said, many people will hate the New World Order and will die protesting it.
And H.G. Wells was a huge globalist.
He loved the idea of this utopian world where man rules.
He had the idea of a world brain, which we would think of like AI on steroids.
A world brain that has everybody's data in it.
He actually had this.
I don't know if you knew that.
Almost 100 years ago.
A world brain with everybody's data in it, and everybody has an identification number.
Right.
I think, what a coincidence.
The Bible says it's going to go this way, and that's what all these people are talking about.
Let's make them all have an ID. Let's go all this particular direction.
And the universal basic income, I believe, is going to happen just like you said.
At first, it's going to sound good, and then it's just a matter of time before everybody's going to be flat-lined.
Right, right.
And when they say, you will own nothing and be happy, I think that's medicated into artificial happiness.
So I think it's really translated as, you will own nothing and be medicated.
Well, actually, have you looked at Metaverse with Mark Zuckerberg?
Well, yeah, I mean, we covered it editorially quite a lot.
Yeah, I mean, when you start thinking about that, I mean, I'm not a tech guy, but I've read enough to go, that's kind of the concept of metaverse.
You're going to be in this thing and you're just going to be happy.
You know what else is interesting, not to bring up medication, in Revelation, the book of Revelation, chapter 18, when you have this judgment at the end?
The Bible is very interesting.
It says this.
Can I read this real quick?
Sure.
It'll be short.
I promise it'll be short.
At the end, it's the final judgment.
The Bible says, Revelation chapter 18, the light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore.
The voice of the bridegroom and bride is not heard anymore.
For your merchants were the great men of the earth, and by your sorcery all the nations were deceived, or by their sorcery.
So the merchants, the great men of the earth.
I put Bill Gates in there.
I put these people in there.
If this were to be now, in this generation, by your sorcery that were sorcery, It's a Greek word pharmakia.
We get our English word pharmacy.
By your pharmaceuticals, they deceived all the nations were deceived by the great men of the earth, the great merchants of the earth.
Not the great merchants.
You're looking on, by their pharmaceuticals.
So you talk about medicating everybody, you're just going to be happy.
When you look at, I mean, man, you start looking at augmentation, you start looking at Neuralink, these things that they're saying we're going to do.
And we're also sold like this, which I got to wonder if it's tied in with the mark of the beast, too.
It's being sold to us already in this narrative that's coming.
Hey, you're going to be better.
Or as we already mentioned, you'll be like God.
You're going to be a better person.
Those who don't go along with this are going to be a lower class citizen.
And it's going to create two classes of citizens, which is also very biblical for the tribulation period that is coming, I believe, rather soon.
Yeah.
Okay.
And let me ask you then about that, because you mentioned rapture earlier.
And I don't know exactly your beliefs on this.
I'm going to ask you about it.
But you may know I have been somewhat critical of those who use a pre-trib rapture interpretation as an excuse to not prepare at all.
You know, I've always thought, well, God wants you to be active at all times in what you're doing.
So that's my only criticism of that one narrative of that.
But what's your take on rapture and what people should be doing now to prepare for what's coming? - Yeah, is that your only criticism on it?
That's pretty much the one that I'm sticking with.
Yeah, right there.
That's the main one.
No, I get it.
So I'm pre-trib rapture.
I believe we're going to be raptured before the tribulation.
However, I have the same problem you do.
I have a lot of colleagues and friends that are pre-trib.
I also have friends that believe the rapture doesn't happen until the end, the rapture happens in the middle, you know, whatever.
Most of the people I know that are pre-tribulation rapture is exactly what you just said.
So, and what I tried to explain to them is just, you know, we already talked about, if you go back three years, you would have never had a clue that you'd be locked down and shut down and we'd be trillions of dollars in the hole and all these bizarre things would be happening.
We'd be shot up and vaxxed up and now they're forcing more vaccines on people if you want to buy and sell.
I said, just work this out.
You look at the supply chain.
You look at what's happening with fertilizer, which, by the way, Mike, I believe is totally manipulated.
It's intentional.
These things could be fixed.
So you look at this.
If you work this out for six more months, where do you think we're going to be?
If you work it out for one more year, where do you think we're going to be?
Just work it out.
12 months.
If we're not wrapped here in the 12 months and you're not prepared...
You're going to be in trouble.
You really do need to be prepared.
We hear what's going to happen with the freight trains.
We know what the government did, but this stuff isn't going to stop.
Right now, we're staring at a Great collapse economically, which I believe these globalists wanted to happen because then they can crush the people.
They can bring in their digital currencies.
The people will cry out, hey, save us.
And that's what they want.
And it's a tactic.
So I believe every person needs to be prepared.
And my friends that are pre-trib rapture, listen, Do this.
And some of them do actually prep.
And if they're worried, well, I won't be able to eat my food.
I won't eat my food if I'm rapture.
Well, who really cares?
Listen, do this.
Why do you care about food once you're with God?
I mean...
There's some weird thoughts out there.
Believe me, I deal with a lot of them.
All right, so if you get raptured and you have prepped and you don't get to eat your food, hey, leave things behind that people can find and come to know the Lord.
Because quite frankly, if you're raptured, people are going to break into your house and steal everything you've got.
And if you have food in there...
Great!
You know, let them have it, and it may be through you that they come to know the Lord, because people are going to survive.
It's not going to be easy, but people are going to survive during that time.
But I think it's foolish not to prepare.
Joseph prepared.
When you look at the biblical precedence, Joseph prepared.
He had an understanding things were going to get bad, right?
He prepared.
Solomon wrote, hey, the ant is wise enough to realize it needs to prepare.
It's so funny because I've even said this in my podcast.
If God takes me out of here, whoever's left behind is going to find a lot of ammo.
I have a really close friend of mine.
He's up in Minnesota and he was on my program.
He said, hey, this is what you're going to need.
You're going to need food and you're going to need ammo.
And he goes, you better get as much as you can.
I think I might be funding a small local war or something at this point if that happens.
Maybe I should put warnings on the ammo boxes or something.
Please use the best intention.
Only shoot zombies or something.
Seriously, Mike, something like that, people are going to survive because of things like that that are left behind.
Yeah.
No, that's true.
I mean, it's all about helping the community survive and reestablishing the rule of law and so on.
But it is a funny thought of people like myself who are preppers.
What would we be leaving behind?
But if you're left behind, you're in a bad situation no matter how much food you find.
You are.
It's going to be hard because technology is different now.
People think, well, hide in the basement like World War II. Listen, technology is far advanced from the days of Nazi Germany.
You can be found so many different ways.
So it's going to be harder.
So leave everything behind for people that they might be able to survive.
Yep, exactly.
All right.
Well, thank you for answering that question.
And I know there are so many more discussions we can have.
I hope we get a chance to do it again, but we're coming up on time.
And so let me ask you, first of all, I want to mention your website again, hopeforourtimes.com.
And you've got successful video channels.
You do a lot of interviews.
Anything you want to share with people about how they can follow your work?
Yeah, also my YouTube, it's the same name.
Hope for Our Times, YouTube.
And I, you know, like you, Mike, I post a lot on there.
I do have an app like you do because I got to talk.
I'm trying to get people to go to my app because I can talk about things you can't talk on YouTube.
Exactly.
And so YouTube is not being kind to me for the last quite some time now.
Well, I'm amazed you're still there, actually.
Yeah.
I don't think it's much longer.
I mean, last two months has been pretty rough.
So I'm really trying to build up the app side because I like to talk about, I love talking about this.
And the reality is there's some evil people at the top and they're trying to make us all get shot up more.
And these climate lockdowns are coming and they're going to be worse than what we've already experienced.
And I don't think a lot of people understand that yet.
So on iPhones and Android, people can just search for the app, Hope for Our Times?
Yes, both.
Hope for Our Times.
It's on both.
And I do actually have, listen, I do believe there's hope, because our hope is in Jesus Christ.
So even the Pope is saying things are going to get worse.
So that should be a consideration.
Hey, pay attention, everybody.
But we're Listen, our hope is in Jesus.
My hope is not in this world.
My citizenship is in heaven.
And this world's going to have a lot more problems, but I'm not worried about it.
And you don't need to be either, everyone.
That's a really healthy attitude.
And also Ron Paul recently warned there's going to be economic riots because of what's happening with the currency.
And I think he's right.
Some dark times coming, but if we have awareness and faith and knowledge, as I've said many times, we can make it through.
We can survive this.
We can get to the other side.
Amen.
They can't kill all of us, in other words.
Listen, we know.
And, you know, we are.
We're going to get to the other side regardless.
I believe in the afterlife.
I believe in the resurrection.
And so I'm not worried about this.
But I do see all of the warning signs.
The Bible told us it was going to look this way.
There's hundreds of signs of what it was going to look like.
And it's looking like all hundreds of them are coming about at the exact same time.
It's wild.
It's wild.
Well, thank you so much, Tom, for joining me.
This has been a fascinating discussion, and I just want to encourage people to follow your work because I think you have a very powerful message that's critical for our time.
So thank you so much for joining me.
Great.
Thanks, Mike.
I look forward to talking to you again soon.
For those listening, feel free to repost this interview on your own channels and other platforms as well.
And thank you for listening.
God bless you all.
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