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Dec. 12, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams

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Situation Update, 12/12/22 - The world you once knew is OVER...

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	All right, welcome to the situation update from Monday, December 12th, 2021.
	I'm Mike Adams.
	Thank you for joining me.
	Got a lot of exciting information for you today.
	I've got, first, 12 predictions for 2023.
	I call them mind-numbing predictions, but that might not be the best adjective.
	Frankly, for those of you who are regular listeners, a lot of these are going to be familiar, but it's important to have the reminder of the big trends that are coming over the next year.
	year, so I've got 12 predictions for 2023.
	Also, I've got a really fantastic interview today with the founder and president of goldback.com.
	His name is Jeremy Corden, and I want to encourage you to learn about goldbacks.
	And again, the website is goldback.com, G-O-L-D-B-A-C-K, just like it sounds, goldback.com.
	And I was, in fact, I was a little bummed out before I did the interview with Jeremy Corden, and I'm so glad I did that interview.
	I just finished it.
	So I have this in reverse order, actually.
	You're going to hear it coming up here, but I just finished the interview before I'm recording this.
	And It was such a relief.
	I mean, it was really exciting talking to Jeremy Corden about the solution that he has.
	It's something really unique for the world.
	It's real money where there's gold infused, actual atomic gold infused into every bill so that the bills themselves, which are called goldbacks, the bills contain the gold.
	And it works in a world with no technology, no electricity, no functioning internet, nothing, right?
	And as you know, because I teach no-tech prepping or low-tech prepping, this is the ultimate low-tech slash no-tech solution because it works as money.
	It's real money.
	The gold is in the bill.
	It works as money when everything else doesn't work.
	So you're going to hear an interview then coming up that I'm really excited about.
	And in fact, I'm just going to say this.
	It's probably premature, but I'm just going to say it.
	We are going to get set up as a retailer for these goldbacks.
	Obviously, that's going to take some time, and there are other retailers right now.
	If you want to get some of these right away, you would use other retailers, which is great.
	We want to support everybody in this space, but we do intend to be able to carry these.
	So we'll talk about that a little bit more later, but getting to the big 12 mind-numbing predictions for 2023.
	I think I'll read you the list first, and then I'll go back through it in more detail.
	So if you just want the short version, here it is.
	This is the summary version.
	Number one, vaccine deaths will continue to accelerate throughout 2023.
	Not a surprise.
	You know why that's happening.
	Especially as some people keep taking the boosters, which means they're producing more spike proteins, and, you know, sadly, they're killing themselves.
	So we're going to see that.
	Number two, we're going to see exploding rates of infertility and more stillbirths, and of course, a lot of spontaneous abortions.
	I mean, I know of couples that are trying to get pregnant, can't get pregnant.
	Can't get pregnant.
	Why?
	Well, they're vaccinated.
	That's why.
	And the spike protein is incompatible with human gestation.
	So there you go.
	That's number two.
	Number three, the deindustrialization of Europe.
	And it's far worse than it was a month ago because of now the permanent accelerating shutdown of BASF that I call BASF. We'll talk about that.
	But Europe, it's...
	It's collapsing into an agrarian society, frankly.
	It's unbelievable to watch the speed of this collapse.
	Number four We're going to see a lot of crop failures and food scarcity worsening throughout 2023.
	And David Dubine has done some really excellent research on this, talking about crop failures in the southern hemisphere.
	And I've interviewed him several times.
	I'll have him on again soon because I think he's the best researcher in this space.
	And he's talking about how in some regions of the southern hemisphere, 50% of Is the expected drop in crop yields?
	Not everywhere.
	Some places it's only 20%.
	But it's 50% in some places, and this is going to...
	Devastate world crop supplies.
	So we'll talk about that.
	Number five is more inflation and more bailouts, which I call zombie stimulus, for the collapsing economy.
	So you're going to see, remember last week, Biden, what was it, $36 or $37 billion of a bailout of the Teamsters' pensions?
	Well, that's a kind of stimulus.
	That's money printing stimulus.
	It's kind of like an adrenaline injection into the zombie economy system.
	So you're going to see that in spades this coming year.
	More handouts, more stimulus, more money being injected into the economy to try to keep the system alive.
	Even though real production, real productivity, real manufacturing is all just collapsing and also retail sales are collapsing.
	Retail demand is collapsing like never before.
	It's unreal, the speed of this collapse.
	Okay, prediction number seven.
	More rolling out of digital money around the world.
	This is happening in the UK, and they're going to try to push it in the US. Now, I do want to be clear.
	It's going to take more than one year for the central banks and governments of the world to roll out digital money.
	You know, Nigeria is pushing it and they're trying to limit cash withdrawals to force people into their digital currency system.
	But 2023 will be the year that the push really takes off.
	So it's going to take, frankly, a decade or longer for governments and central banks to try to push this into, let's say, a familiar usage of the general population.
	And it may fail, by the way.
	It may totally fail.
	I hope it fails.
	I'm not using it.
	I'm not signing up for that Mark of the Beast system.
	Forget it.
	But they're going to push it hard beginning in 2023.
	Okay, number eight.
	My prediction is we're going to see a new pandemic that is worse than COVID, And this is going to happen sometime after the WHO treaty is signed by Joe Biden.
	And we've talked about that previously as well.
	So treaty gets signed.
	Then some months later, boom, big release, big new pandemic.
	And then the WHO orders all the local jurisdictions to have forced vaccines, forced quarantines, lockdowns, economic destruction, masking, the whole deal.
	So that's coming, I believe, sometime in 2023.
	It could be late 23, but I think it's coming.
	Okay, number nine, worldwide climate lockdowns.
	You're going to begin to see a trend that will accelerate over the next decade or even 20 years, but climate lockdowns is going to become a thing.
	Going along with climate lockdowns, you're going to see fuel scarcity.
	You're going to see this first in Europe.
	But it's being engineered to happen in the United States by Biden shutting down pipelines and fossil fuel infrastructure, drilling and exploration permits, transportation, and so on.
	Everything related to fossil fuels is being shut down.
	So you're going to have fuel scarcity in the United States, and then you're going to have, at the globalist level, climate lockdown demands, where they're going to say, oh, CO2 is too much this week, and everybody has to lock down.
	Everybody has to stay home.
	It's going to be a China-style global lockdown, or at least that's what's going to be ordered.
	But I would expect that a lot of red states in the U.S., like Florida and Texas, are going to tell the U.N. and the WHO to go pound sand.
	We're not locking down because of your silly Paris Climate Accords.
	Anyway, watch for that.
	That's number nine.
	Number ten.
	Prediction 10, more populist revolts against corrupt governments and rigged elections.
	You're seeing this right now in Brazil.
	Where it looks like Bolsonaro is working with the military to take control of the country, to take it away from the left-wing communists who rigged the election, stole the election.
	You've got corrupt Lula, a criminal, who is the so-called president there.
	You've got a corrupt Brazilian Supreme Court, totally corrupt, totally compromised.
	You've got a bunch of left-wing communists and fascists there.
	It looks like they're going to be removed from power by the military.
	It looks like that's what's about to happen.
	We'll see.
	But you're going to see more revolts even in places across Europe, which has already begun.
	It's going to get worse over the coming winter.
	Well, the winter has already begun.
	But even in the United States, because people can see Arizona was rigged.
	The 2020 election was rigged.
	The midterms were rigged.
	A lot of Senate races were rigged and so on.
	You're going to see a lot more revolts.
	It doesn't mean kinetic.
	It doesn't mean bloody, shooting, violent type of revolts.
	When I say revolts, what I mean is people showing up and demanding honesty.
	People showing up at city council meetings.
	People showing up at the...
	The school board meetings, people showing up at City Hall, people showing up and peacefully protesting in the streets, people filing lawsuits.
	And you know, what's coming out on Twitter right now with all of the government collusion in censorship, which is called viewpoint discrimination against conservatives, The Twitter files are revealing that there should be a wave of lawsuits and even criminal indictments,
	probably against people like Jack Dorsey, by the way, the former CEO of Twitter, for their complicity in government-sponsored censorship, but also the fact that they lied about it under oath, repeatedly, brazenly.
	So that's coming.
	Oh, and that's point number 11, by the way.
	Huge pushback against censorship by tech platforms, which you're going to see members of Congress launching investigations into Twitter and Facebook and Google.
	Search engines, yes, as well, and YouTube and so on.
	This is coming.
	For the next two years, you're going to see the House waging major investigations.
	You're going to see whistleblowers coming out.
	You're going to see Project Veritas dumping major revelations and so on.
	At the same time, you're going to have rising success of alt media platforms, of which I'm the owner of a couple of them, Brighteon.social and Brighteon.com, Brighteon.tv, Brighteonradio.com for those of you who want audio only and so on.
	I believe all these platforms are going to become more successful, more viewership.
	But also the other platforms out there such as Rumble and Bitchute and Truth Social and Gab and Getter and Parler and whoever else is out there in the space.
	I think all platforms are going to do extremely well for the next several years.
	And we have some really awesome new features coming out on Brighteon as well that you're going to love because it will allow content creators to actually earn money, you know, get paid.
	So that's coming in 2023 for us.
	Okay, prediction number 12.
	You're going to see an explosion in interest in home gardening and off-grid food production, plus a lot of interest in local food barter.
	So community-supported agriculture, CSAs, you know, seed saving, seed barter.
	And in fact, there are some really great combinations of some of these things.
	Like I mentioned the goldbacks earlier.
	I can see people using goldbacks at local farmers markets as a currency, you know, to buy and sell food and seeds, fertilizer, goats, chicken eggs, you know, whatever.
	Laying chickens, you know, layers as they're called.
	I can see people using what I call off-grid money.
	Instead of using credit cards, which is all trackable and traceable and cancelable and everything, why not use goldbacks?
	Or some people might use junk silver, like silver dimes, you know, what is it, pre-1965 silver dimes or silver quarters or what have you.
	So I see this coming.
	Now, I did not put this officially on the list, but if I were to add some other predictions to this, another prediction would be continued escalation of the war with Russia.
	Because, of course, the war is needed by the corrupt criminal Biden regime in order to launder more money by sending weapons to Ukraine and having arms traffickers turn the weapons into cash and then having the cash laundered through systems and kicked back to the Biden family and the State Department officials.
	It's all corruption and bribery and fraud.
	As we know, that's where all this money is going, or at least some significant portion of it.
	So you're going to see a lot more escalation with Russia.
	The problem with that, of course, is that Russia has no interest in the corruption and bribery and fraud of the West.
	And if Russia is sufficiently provoked, they may just start launching thermobaric missile systems into Western European cities.
	And that's going to shut down all that party real quick, let me tell you, if that happens.
	So let's hope that doesn't happen.
	We do not want to see escalation, but that is certainly a possibility, although not an official prediction for 2023.
	So if I were to characterize the 12 predictions that I've offered here, I would say it's the following.
	It's Increasing tyranny, but At the same time, increasing awakening and pushback against the tyranny.
	In other words, as Darth Vader squeezes harder, as Princess Leia says, what the rebels will slip through your fingers, right?
	So, we the people all over the world, we are the rebels against tyranny, and by slipping through their fingers, what it means is that we are seeking alternatives.
	Alternative money systems, alternative social media, alternative video platforms, alternative means of communication.
	Alternative ways to produce and grow food, alternative medicines that don't rely on mRNA injections and all the poisoning that happens with that and so on.
	And I think this is a wonderful time.
	For Awakening for Humanity, because everybody's waking up to the things that I've been teaching for 20 years, by the way.
	If you go back, I mean, in 2007, I was doing counter-think cartoons about how Big Pharma was trying to achieve global depopulation.
	Remember that?
	At the time, people thought that was bonkers.
	Today, it's widely understood that that's what's going on.
	And all the principles that I've been teaching this whole time Have off-grid medicine, off-grid money, off-grid assets, off-grid communications.
	All these things.
	Self-defense means everything.
	It's all paying off, especially in 2023 and moving forward.
	Because, look, the globalists of the world, you see this in Nigeria, they've limited the withdrawals from your ATM. You can't even get your own money out of the bank except for $45 a day.
	That's the limit.
	They're not going to let you have access to your own money.
	They're not going to let you have access to sufficient food at some point as the scarcity kicks in.
	They're not going to let you travel because they're going to have climate lockdowns.
	They're not going to give you access to sufficient fuel to have the mobility that you want.
	In every area of your life, they're going to restrict more supplements and natural medicine, right?
	They're going to restrict everything that might set you free and they're going to push everything that enslaves you.
	The WHO pandemic treaty, more vaccines, more infertility, more fake fiat currency, more banking restrictions, more regulation of crypto, for example.
	Everything that you can imagine that is evil, that's what the globalists are pushing.
	But the people are waking up because of that.
	In other words, this mass awakening that we're living through would never have been possible without the evil showing its cards.
	And that's exactly what we're witnessing.
	The evil of the world, they're all, they've come out, they've ripped off the masks, they've come out to play, the demons are in full view now.
	There's no longer any question of what's going on, at least in the minds of those who are awake and aware and alive and haven't been turned into vaccine zombies at this point.
	So this is part of a process of the mass awakening, the mass resistance uprising of human populations, the pro-human movement, or as we call it, team humanity.
	And I want to mention in terms of actual diversity of this movement, it doesn't matter what political party you belong to.
	It doesn't matter if you're Democrat, Republican, Independent, Libertarian, what have you.
	It doesn't matter what your skin color is.
	It doesn't matter what your sexual orientation is.
	It doesn't matter your religion, Muslim, Christian, Jew, Catholic, whatever.
	It doesn't matter what country you were born in.
	Doesn't matter how many nose rings you have either.
	I mentioned that because I was in Austin over the weekend and I noticed that.
	There's a lot of nose rings and blue hair for some reason.
	Nose rings and blue hair.
	That's the city of Austin, Texas.
	But it doesn't matter.
	If you're on Team Humanity, you could have 15 nose rings if you have enough nostril space for that.
	You could have super blue hair.
	As long as you're on team humanity, you are welcomed to the movement because this is the movement for the future of human civilization.
	And dare I say, from a biological standpoint, this is a scientific fact, the future of humanity depends on sexual reproduction between a man and a woman Having healthy, viable offspring, and that can only come through good nutrition,
	avoiding GMOs, avoiding the mRNA injections, avoiding the toxins, and using good nutrition and some homegrown food, probably if you can, in order to maintain the viability of future generations.
	Anybody who doesn't maintain viability, obviously, is gone from the human gene pool.
	Within a generation or two, if not sooner, because remember when When a woman is pregnant with a daughter, that daughter's eggs are being formed during gestation.
	So it's actually, it skips a generation.
	Or I should say, the nutrition of the mother encompasses two generations of offspring.
	Her daughter and her grandchildren at the same time.
	Okay?
	So two generations are at risk if that mother gets vaccinated.
	Or two generations could be viable if their mother has good nutrition and stays away from toxins.
	So this is the big picture.
	This is humanity's moment of awakening and pushing back against depopulation, genocide, and global tyranny.
	And not everybody's going to make it.
	So I want to be clear, but I'm not focusing on a doom and gloom message here.
	But I will say billions will die, okay?
	Billions will die, but globalists will fail at their real goal, which is killing something like 7 billion people.
	They will not achieve that.
	I think they're going to kill anywhere from one to four billion people over the next decade or so.
	But that's a defeat for the globalists, believe it or not.
	That's a defeat.
	If we only lose one out of two people on this planet, we still win.
	We still can survive.
	We can reproduce.
	We can move forward.
	In this process, we, the survivors, we will, by definition, have moved into decentralized systems of everything we've talked about here.
	Money and finance, medicine, food production, all these things.
	So this is a process that humanity is being required to go through.
	And it's going to be a very painful process.
	But it is very much survivable.
	So that's the silver lining in all of this.
	It is survivable.
	We can make it through.
	You can survive global famine.
	In fact, you will survive it.
	You will.
	If you're listening to this, you're already well positioned.
	You will survive the global collapse of the debt-based fiat currency central bank system.
	You will survive it.
	Why?
	Again, because you're informed and you're prepared.
	You can survive all of this.
	You can survive the collapse of the cities, the collapse of the rule of law, the collapse of nations.
	You can survive it.
	The mass migration, the collapse of the banking systems or the water supplies or whatever it is, you can survive it.
	A lot of people won't, but you can and you will.
	So let's cover a few news headlines that really reinforce these 12 predictions.
	So one of them, and I happen to have found this from a site called americanexperiment.org, German chemical giant BASF will downsize in Europe, quote, as quickly as possible and also permanently, end quote.
	So this story is actually citing the Financial Times, but Financial Times is a subscription required, so I'm not going to read you that one.
	But it talks about how BASF, B-A-S-F as I call it, remember it was maybe two months ago when BASF said they were going to shut down one certain subsection of their chemical productivity in Germany?
	Well, that has now been expanded to essentially the entire operation.
	And it's all being shut down, quote, as quickly as possible and also permanently.
	Now, the impacts of this are absolutely extraordinary.
	So let me read you a few paragraphs from the Financial Times on this.
	So Basif first responded to the soaring price of natural gas by shutting down its ammonia plant.
	And reducing the run rate of its acetylene facility.
	Now, ammonia, and you know the chemical equation is NH3, nitrogen, hydrogen, three hydrogens to one nitrogen, obviously.
	This is the precursor to nitrogen-based fertilizers.
	So if you can't create ammonia out of gas, then you can't create synthetic fertilizers that feed four billion people on this planet.
	This means that the availability of fertilizer, not just in Europe, but around the world, is going to be severely suppressed in 2023.
	By some estimates, it will be down by 40% from normal levels.
	So a 40% reduction in fertilizer usage, it doesn't quite equate to a 40% reduction in food and crop yields, but it's close to that.
	I don't know what the exact number is.
	It's something under 40%, but it's still significant.
	All right, now continuing from the Financial Times, Now, that's an understatement.
	I don't know if you knew this, but BASIF produces over 40,000 chemicals that are used by industry.
	40,000 chemicals.
	I mean, it's everything from glues and resins and pharmaceuticals and chemicals that go into personal care products and agriculture.
	You know, not just fertilizer, but a lot more.
	Plus, additives that go into motor oil and diesel fuel and engine additives.
	All kinds of things, okay?
	Aerospace.
	You know, just across the board.
	If you lose these 45,000 chemicals...
	You cripple every industry you can think of, almost without exception.
	Textiles, even.
	I mean, it's crazy.
	Medicine, you know, medical equipment, medical hardware, medical devices, all of it.
	So then there's a quote from Uwe Leibelt, head of Basif Europe.
	Quote, high natural gas prices have created a situation where importing ammonia from overseas was cheaper than manufacturing it ourselves.
	That's shocking.
	This is because, of course, gas prices going through the roof, and it means they can get ammonia from China cheaper than making it in Europe.
	Why is this the case?
	Well, of course, because the Western countries, the U.S. and the U.K., shut off Russia from the SWIFT system.
	Because of the military operation in Ukraine.
	And then in addition, the U.S. and the U.K. destroyed the Nord Stream pipelines that would provide natural gas to Germany.
	As a result, there's a gas shortage, natural gas across Europe.
	Russia's not exporting natural gas.
	And this has led to the shutdown of Basif.
	And the de-industrialization of Europe and the shutting down of even glass and ceramic plants in France and metal smelting operations, aluminum, nickel, copper, all of it, it's...
	It's shocking.
	All right, continuing with the story.
	Quote, by October, the company had gone much further, concluding that higher energy costs had so badly undermined Europe's competitiveness that it would have to transform its entire business.
	And by that, what the Financial Times means is that BASIF is going to have to shut down operations in Europe permanently.
	And they're setting up operations in communist China.
	They're building it in communist China, which, of course, will be seized by the CCP the minute that we're at war with China, which is coming up probably very soon.
	Chief Executive Martin Brudermuller announced that BASIF would downsize in Europe, quote, as quickly as possible and also permanently.
	Most of the cuts are expected to be made at the Ludwigshafen site, which is their massive, I mean, how many square kilometers is that site?
	It's massive.
	I forgot how big it is, but it's crazy huge.
	It's like a country into itself.
	It's like a nation's, like a city-state all by itself.
	There's like thousands of miles of pipeline just on that facility.
	Ludwigshafen, yeah, it's all shutting down.
	And then from American Experiment, Basif is not the only company reeling from the European energy crisis.
	Many factories are switching their operations to oil, dimming the lights, or shutting down production altogether.
	Some companies are considering leaving Germany for countries where energy is more affordable, i.e.
	China, Korea, Southeast Asia, you know, places like that, even Mexico, for example.
	It's, I mean, Europe is being de-industrialized.
	Western Europe as a modern civilization is done.
	It's done.
	I know it sounds blunt.
	It almost sounds crazy.
	But there is no coming back from this.
	When you shut down these facilities, they are shut down permanently.
	And that's actually the phrase being used by Basif's principles there.
	They're saying permanently.
	Remember this operation in Ludwigshafen has never shut down since the 1960s.
	They have not had it offline in decades.
	When they shut it down, they've said this previously.
	This has been reported in the UK Daily Mail.
	When you shut it down, they don't even know if they could ever turn it back on.
	But they're not even trying to turn it back on.
	They're shutting it down permanently.
	It will become a scrap metal trash heap after this.
	You won't be able to fire it back up.
	And that's if you could even get natural gas from Russia, which you're not going to be able to get anyway, because America and the UK will just destroy the Nord Stream pipelines again if you repair them.
	And Russia is not going to sell energy probably to Germany anyway.
	Not while this war is going on, which started with an economic embargo against Russia.
	Well, I should say it started with Russia invading Ukraine and then the economic embargo against Russia set this off.
	But it boomeranged and it hurt Western Europe more than it hurt Russia by far.
	Thank you.
	So the Financial Times ran a poll this last summer, and believe me, the poll results are far worse now, but even over the summer, This poll found that in Germany, 25% of small and medium-sized businesses were considering leaving the country because of energy costs.
	That number might be 50% now.
	We don't know for sure, but it could be.
	When you lose the affordability of energy, you lose the ability to have an industrial continent.
	It's that simple.
	And remember, it's also the greenies, you know, the green cultists in Europe who are saying, oh, you can't use the natural gas that we have in Europe.
	You can't use the fossil fuels.
	You can't do that.
	It's dirty.
	It's dirty.
	It pollutes everything.
	And they're going to protest in the streets and everything and block traffic and whatever it takes, throw paint on museum pieces or whatever it takes.
	Because they're a bunch of crybabies who want to live in a collapsed agrarian society, apparently.
	So basically, Europe is going to turn into, let's say, Papua New Guinea, where the population will collapse.
	There'll be mass starvation.
	People will freeze to death.
	There'll be social upheaval, riots, unrest, the fall of nations, the fall of currencies.
	And then it will settle into a rather flat, simple agrarian society where the people who are still alive grow a lot of their own food.
	That's where Europe goes without energy.
	Now, they could stop that by tapping into the energy resources that they have, but there's no political willingness to do that because Western European civilization is on a suicide mission, culturally, economically, in its infrastructure.
	It's a suicide mission, and they're in the process of killing themselves.
	So what do European governments want to do about this?
	They want more control and tyranny.
	Of course they do.
	So Breitbart.com reporting great reset.
	UK prepares to introduce a digital pound central bank digital currency.
	The de facto head of his majesty's treasury.
	There's your first clue to flee.
	Anything called his majesty's probably isn't very fair to the people.
	Anyway, announced that the Bank of England has begun consultations on implementing a central bank digital currency.
	That would usher in the globalist vision of a cashless society in which all transactions are traceable by the government.
	So not only will you starve and freeze and have energy scarcity, fuel scarcity, it might be illegal to run a combustion engine, they're also going to trace your grocery purchases to make sure you don't buy too much food and take it from others.
	Can't have you buying too much food now.
	So as the collapse gets worse, the tyranny gets worse as well.
	And believe me, if you're listening to this from the UK and you sign up for that system and you rely on the government to provide you with the things you need to live, you will not make it.
	Because the government is literally trying to kill you.
	The government of the UK is a suicide cult.
	And they're on a genocidal mission for global depopulation, just like the current illegitimate government of the United States and also Canada, all working for the World Economic Forum.
	Is that what it is?
	WF? The World Economic Bleep Tards that starts with an F. That's what that organization is, but they're all about global genocide.
	Now, they're also going to push a digital currency in the U.S., And in Canada, eventually.
	Again, it's going to take some time for them to roll this out.
	It's not a one-year project.
	It's a multi-year project.
	And they're going to try to punish you for using cash or using banks or using crypto or using anything other than their digital money system.
	But the simplest way for them to accomplish this is to cause the crisis of Problem, reaction, solution, classic structure.
	They cause the currency collapse and they cause the food collapse.
	So they have you starving and penniless and then they come along and offer the solution.
	What's the solution?
	Oh, just sign up for our Mark of the Beast satanic digital bank currency solution.
	You know, Central Bank Digital System, Digital Wallet, CBDCs.
	Sorry, trying to get that right.
	Just sign up for this system and we'll give you free money.
	Universal Basic Income.
	So for those who are impoverished and do not have backup supplies and do not have knowledge, they will sell their souls and they will sign up for the Mark of the Beast system.
	And it'll be some kind of biometric thing, you know, iris scan, thumbprint, DNA check, nasal swab, whatever it is.
	You know, here, spit into the cash register for a DNA check.
	Checking out a grocery store, everybody's spitting at each other.
	You know, you've got to be sure it's you.
	Whatever it is.
	And people will become enslaved in the system.
	They will be slaves.
	And then the system will slowly exterminate the slaves.
	That's what this is all about.
	And how are they going to exterminate them?
	It's easy.
	Launch a pandemic and have forced quarantines.
	Take you to a quarantine camp, which becomes a concentration camp, which becomes a death camp.
	How do you think this goes, folks?
	I mean, it's so obvious.
	It's so obvious.
	Yes, they're going to crash the currency to get you into the central bank digital currency.
	Yes, they're going to crash the food supply, which they're in the process of doing, to make you desperate for food handouts.
	Yes, they're going to force the unprepared masses into central bank digital currency systems with the free money, but then they're going to have the purchase, you know, rationing.
	Limits and quotas.
	You can only have one chicken a week.
	You can only have a stick of butter a week.
	You can only have this or that.
	That's how they're going to do it.
	And then, again, launch a pandemic on top of that.
	It's very simple.
	So the way to stay out of that, obviously, is all the stuff we've been talking about forever.
	Have off-grid money, off-grid self-defense, off-grid medicine, off-grid assets, off-grid communications, all of that.
	And speaking of off-grid solutions, I want to give a shout out to two of our sponsors today.
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	I actually don't know how much junk silver is still available because everybody's trying to get it now and they're not making it anymore.
	So there's quite a premium on it compared to what it used to be.
	But I believe that gold and silver prices are very much manipulated and suppressed.
	And even though I never recommend metals as a speculative investment, I look at it as simply freezing asset value.
	But the dollar denomination of these metals will likely rise in the future as dollars lose value.
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	You know, gaining anything but you're freezing it.
	You're freezing the assets.
	You're saving or you're preventing the loss or the erosion.
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	Both of these are off-grid solutions.
	And then coming up, the interview here with Goldback founder, Jeremy Corden.
	This is a fascinating interview.
	It's a different solution.
	Well, it's a parallel solution to everything else that we're talking about.
	And it's a fascinating interview.
	And again, we plan.
	I hope we could be a retailer for the Goldback founder.
	Because I think it's a brilliant solution.
	Anyway, those are some things that you can do for off-grid supplies and assets and so on.
	Just as a disclaimer, remember, I'm not your investment advisor.
	And do your own research.
	Do your own due diligence.
	Talk with your own financial advisor to make any financial decision.
	And understand that every purchase has some risk associated with it.
	For example, silver prices could fall if there's more manipulation.
	Because that has happened for quite a long time, so it could go lower.
	It sure could, but that's why I always recommend having the physical silver in your hand or the gold in your hand.
	Anyway, moving on.
	Here's an article that appeared in Markets Insider, or it's part of Business Insider, just, I think on Friday.
	BlackRock says, get ready for a recession unlike any other, and quote, what worked in the past won't work now.
	So let me just read you the kind of the summary of this story.
	It says that BlackRock is saying the global economy has entered a period of elevated volatility and previous investing approaches will not work anymore.
	A recession is imminent, but central banks won't be able to support markets this time by loosening policy, according to BlackRock.
	In other words, when they say recession, Really?
	We're already way beyond recession, in my view.
	We're into depression.
	We're into catastrophe, kind of the opening chapters of catastrophe.
	But the banks won't be able to loosen policy to solve this.
	And by loosening policy, that means lowering interest rates and making money cheaper to borrow, or cheaper to leverage, cheaper to amplify.
	And why?
	Why won't banks be able to do that, central banks in particular?
	Because inflation continues to get worse.
	In fact, that's the third bullet point here.
	Quote, So in other words, if the banks reverse the tightening and engage in fiscal loosening, they will accelerate inflation into potentially hyperinflation territory.
	That will lead to a collapse of public trust in the system as grocery prices just explode, right, and fuel prices explode and so on.
	And it will eventually end the debt-based currency, which is going to happen sooner or later, but It'll be accelerated if the Fed goes back to massive money printing and quantitative easing.
	So that's the hyperinflation route where the currency is destroyed.
	Or the central banks can continue with tightening.
	But by tightening, as the Fed is doing in the United States, it is crushing the economy.
	It's causing really a severe depression or a collapse of the business sector that will eventually...
	It will emerge in the stock market.
	In other words, they won't be able to prop up the fake stock market forever.
	At some point, stock valuations have to reflect earnings and valuations of the corporations that are themselves losing customers like crazy.
	So their earnings are plummeting.
	Their sales volumes are plummeting.
	And 2023 is going to be marked by Plummeting sales of consumer goods, everything from automobiles to clothing, even services like tourism and travel and so on.
	Layoffs in the millions throughout the year.
	Sharp contractions in discretionary purchasing while at the same time sharp increases in food prices, not only because of fiscal and causes of inflation, but also because of global crop failures, fertilizer shortages, but also because of global crop failures, fertilizer shortages, and food scarcity.
	The agricultural sector is being hit very, very hard.
	So it would not be out of the realm of possibility for food prices to double from now to next year at the same day, the same, you know, December next year, they could be double what they are right now.
	That is not out of the question.
	It won't happen to every category of food, but it could certainly happen to many food items.
	Well, how's that going to work then when people have lost their jobs because of the layoffs, because of collapsing consumer demand?
	See, that's what happens when the central bank continues to tighten policy and raise interest rates and make money more expensive to borrow.
	So in other words, this is one of those choose-your-adventure books that Remember those books?
	I mean, I do.
	I'm old enough to have had books like that when I was young.
	Choose your adventure, you know, and there's a scenario like, do you choose to, like, take the mountain path up the hill or swim in the river?
	And, like, if you swim in the river, go to page 73, and then you go to page 73, it's like, you die, you drown, you know?
	Oh, my God!
	But if you took the mountain path, you know, it says go to page 95.
	You go to 95 and then the adventure continues.
	Have you ever read a book like that maybe when you were a kid?
	Like today's kids could not even believe that there were books like that.
	But there were.
	Choose your own adventure, right?
	So central banks have a choose your own adventure.
	Except in this adventure, this is like economic adventures of insanity.
	No matter what you choose...
	You collapse the system.
	You either collapse it with hyperinflation or you collapse it through economic and business collapse, cratering of the domestic business.
	That's it.
	Choose your adventure.
	Basically, it should be called Choose Your Catastrophe, I think.
	That's the book that the Federal Reserve is reading right now or writing, I should say.
	Choose Your Catastrophe.
	Either way, not good.
	No, no, not a good outcome.
	Either way, you don't want to be the one left holding dollars when the music stops, that's for sure.
	Either the dollars lose value through inflation, or you end up having a hard time getting dollars because there's not much work out there.
	There's not much, and the market's crashing and all these other, you know, business implosion types of effects.
	So either way, not good to be holding debt-based fiat currency.
	So as BlackRock says, quote, Central bankers won't ride to the rescue when growth slows in this new regime, contrary to what investors have come to expect.
	Equity valuations, I'm talking about stocks mostly, equity valuations don't yet reflect the damage ahead.
	Exactly.
	Which means, you know, there's going to be major, major corrections in stock values.
	BlackRock goes on to say, The old playbook of simply buying the dip doesn't apply in this regime of sharper trade-offs and greater macro volatility.
	We don't see a return to conditions that will sustain a joint bull market in stocks and bonds of the kind we have experienced in the prior decade.
	That's another way to say, the good times, they over.
	It's going to get nasty from here.
	That's what they're saying.
	We don't see a return.
	We've been in an artificial money-printing, debt-based economy since 1971 when Nixon took us off the gold standard for the currency.
	So everything that you have seen, probably in your entire adult life, depending on how old you are, has been artificial.
	Artificially easy money, artificially easy stock growth, money-printing madness, run amok.
	And now here we are at the end of it.
	And there's no easy solution.
	In fact, the only real solution is the default of the currency or the, quote, great reset or global reset of the debt-based currency, which is the plan to force people into the central bank digital currency.
	So you see how it all works together.
	Even the globalists know that this whole system is coming to an end.
	They know it.
	In fact, they're engineering the end and engineering the crisis to try to present themselves as your saviors.
	Remember, my quote, I'm the one who coined this, your slavers will pretend to be your saviors.
	It's exactly what is being set up here.
	So, prepare accordingly.
	And then, last item here is a story from LifeSite News.
	Toxicology expert warns that mRNA COVID jabs could, quote, sterilize an entire generation.
	Yeah.
	Dr.
	Jancy Lindsey said, quote, there's no way we can say at this point that the shots are safe nor effective.
	She also added, and this was a discussion hosted by U.S. Senator Ron Johnson, and he deserves a lot of credit for this.
	Good job, Senator Johnson.
	You're rocking it.
	Dr.
	Lindsey warned that the COVID-19 jabs could, quote, potentially sterilize an entire generation or else, quote, be passed on To next generations as inadvertent gene transfer.
	That it is absolutely irresponsible to continue any of these shots for children.
	And so think about one of the trends here.
	Depopulation, stillbirths, sterilization, infertility.
	Yes, it's all by design.
	So think about what this world looks like as birth rates continue to plummet.
	And remember, we covered this last week.
	In countries like Taiwan, the birth rate is now down by, what was it, 26% or 27% from normal?
	It means one in four Taiwan children are not being born.
	That would otherwise normally be born.
	And then you add to that the increasing excess mortality rates that are associated with this vaccine, which according to different estimates, I have one here, 26% increased mortality, said another expert also at Senator Johnson's roundtable.
	And we've heard from Edward Dowd that that rate is 32% among the general population.
	And I think he said it was about 40% among the working class.
	So, let's just say that excess deaths are 33%.
	Let's kind of take middle ground on that.
	And you know that on any given day, normally, there would be about 7,500 people dying in the United States.
	That's pre-COVID. So, you take about a third of that, that's about 2,500 people dying per day who would otherwise not die.
	So think about it, folks.
	2,500 people dying every day.
	Every single day.
	By the time you hear this podcast tomorrow, there'll be another 2,500 dead people from the vaccine.
	On top of that, there will be something like 5,000 to maybe even another 7,500 injured or disabled people from We're good to go.
	That means, do the math on this, follow me here, that means every single day in America, about 10,000 people are being removed from even the possibility of being in the workforce.
	Now, I know that not everybody who dies is working.
	Some of them are retired seniors.
	Some of them are, you know, under the age of 18 children.
	They're not working or what have you.
	Some of them are already jobless.
	But There are roughly 10,000 people per day being removed from the potential of a job pool.
	And then you ask yourself the question, which I think the Wall Street Journal was asking, is where did all the young men go?
	Why are there 6 million young men missing from the workforce?
	That was a big article they did last week.
	Well, the answer, Wall Street Journal, is they're dead or injured.
	There's your answer.
	They're disabled, they're maimed, or they're dead.
	And it's 10,000 more every day.
	It doesn't take a genius to do the math on this and realize that even the U.S. economy cannot function if you're removing thousands of people every day from the work pool, the labor pool.
	How long can this go on?
	Not that long.
	I mean, what is that?
	300,000 a month?
	I mean, 300,000 people a month.
	Yeah, month after month, booster after booster.
	While the system continues to rig speech, you know, the government colluding with big tech to censor anybody who says the vaccines are bad.
	And they're pushing the boosters and they're still requiring it for jobs and even in the military still requiring it right now.
	You know, that new bill hasn't gone through yet that would drop the vaccine mandate.
	I don't think it has.
	Maybe it will soon, but it hasn't kicked in yet.
	So 300,000 Americans a month.
	It's like a war of attrition against the world.
	That's what this is.
	So you are seeing the effects of it.
	And this is not sustainable, obviously.
	Our current structure of society, our current monetary system, which is a debt system, is not sustainable.
	Our current medical system is not sustainable.
	Our current food production system, as it is currently structured, is also not sustainable.
	Our consumption of fertilizers is not sustainable given the shutdown of fertilizer production and so on.
	We are hitting the brick wall.
	We are hitting the end of this era, the money creation, debt, easy money, everything.
	This is the last chapter.
	So get prepared.
	Get prepared in every way you can.
	We're going to go to the interview here with the founder of Goldback.com.
	First, our news today from the Health Ranger store.
	I'm just going to bring you one mention every day of what we have that's back in stock.
	Right now we have back in stock freeze-dried organic whole blueberries packed in number 10 cans.
	Why does this matter?
	Because a lot of the cheap storable food lacks all fruit, and it means it lacks vitamin C and also the anthocyanins that are very powerful, you know, the pigment molecules that are in fruits like blueberries, which have extraordinary properties themselves.
	You can't live on textured soy protein alone and salt and MSG and whatever garbage is in kind of the cheap low-end stuff out there.
	You've got to have fruit.
	You've got to have vitamin C. You've got to have plants.
	Freeze drying retains all of that.
	Freeze drying is the best preservation technique to maintain the nutritional value of foods and superfoods and fruits.
	Did you know that?
	Nothing is as good as freeze drying.
	And these will last a very long time.
	I can't even tell you...
	How many years, really?
	I think they're labeled for two years, but I was eating raspberries from a number 10 can the other day that I think were packed in 2011, and they were perfectly good.
	Just saying.
	Freeze-dried in the number 10 cans, sealed for long-term storage.
	Get them at the Health Ranger store.
	You can go to healthrangerstore.com slash blueberries to find these.
	They're available right now.
	Healthrangerstore.com slash blueberries.
	And of course, they're lab tested for heavy metals and glyphosate and microbiology, salmonella, E. coli, and so on.
	We do all that testing routinely on everything that we sell, plus a certified organic.
	So, there you go.
	Alright, with that said, let's jump into the interview with the founder of Goldback.com.
	And I'm really excited about this.
	His name is Jeremy Corden.
	I think you're going to enjoy this interview.
	I'll be back with you tomorrow.
	And until then, enjoy the interview.
	Have a great day.
	Talk to you then.
	Alright, welcome to today's interview.
	Mike Adams here, the founder of Brighteon.com, the free speech platform.
	And as all of you know, I am a huge fan of atomic elements, certain ones in particular, such as gold and silver and platinum and so on.
	And today I have a really special guest for you.
	He's the founder of a company called Goldback, and the website is goldback.com.
	His name is Jeremy Corden.
	And he has a unique solution for a fungible gold-infused currency that looks revolutionary because it's real money, not just fiat currency backed by nothing.
	The gold is in the bills.
	So anyway, he joins us now to answer all my questions and tell us about this.
	Mr.
	Corden, it's an honor to have you on, sir.
	Thank you for joining me.
	Thanks for having me, Mike.
	Absolutely.
	This is really exciting.
	As I mentioned to you earlier, a friend of mine, Robert Scott Bell, he gave me one of your Goldback bills, which is very, it's a work of art all by itself.
	And he said the gold is infused in the bill that represents the value of the bill.
	And so I'm holding one in my hands as I speak to you.
	Can you give us the quick summary version for those who are totally new to what is a Goldback?
	Can you tell us what that is?
	Sure.
	You know, you're looking at a goldback, and I'd recommend you look it up if you can, but it kind of looks like a Willy Wonka ticket, right?
	So the idea is that currency, at least in bill form, has either been backed by, you know, faith and trust, or it's backed by metal in a vault somewhere else.
	Right.
	The gold back allows you to actually have the gold on you in the bill itself, which hasn't been done.
	So a single gold back is one one-thousandth of an ounce of gold.
	It's the smallest mass-produced bullion product in the entire world, as far as we can tell.
	And, you know, they're designed to fit into your wallet.
	There's other denominations of gold backs that carry more gold.
	So, for example, the five gold back has five one thousandths of an ounce of gold or one two hundredth of an ounce of gold if you're mathematically inclined.
	And it has five times the value, you know, and we've got denominations going up to 50.
	Oh, up to 50.
	That was my next question.
	Up to 50.
	The highest denomination.
	Okay.
	Yeah, after that, you're doing more like a bar, right?
	That's a 20th of an ounce of gold, so that's just kind of a lot to have in something that's bendable, I guess.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So the physical bill is a polymer or kind of a plastic substance.
	What would you say it is other than the gold?
	I think of it as like a gold sandwich, right?
	So you have these really tough kind of circulation-grade polymers on either side, and then the gold is sandwiched in the middle, so you don't lose any of it.
	It doesn't rub off in your wallet or whatever.
	So the gold, as I was looking at your website, the gold is applied...
	I guess it's nebulized atoms of gold that are applied and then sealed into the bill, sandwiched in?
	How would you describe that process?
	So the process is called vacuum deposition.
	Have you ever seen a pair of Oakley sunglasses?
	Yeah.
	So there's a layer of gold in Oakley sunglasses.
	So it's the same people that originally developed that technology.
	You know, and it was used for, you know, putting a layer of gold in, say, windows, right?
	Or a layer of silver in mirrors.
	The vacuum deposition is also used for putting tiny, tiny amounts of gold in microchips.
	So, you know, you're talking about, you know, this is very advanced kind of stuff here, but it's never been used for a bullion product before.
	So, you know, that's what we're looking at for goldbacks.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so right now I'm holding, and we'll put this on screen to show people what these look like, I'm holding a one goldback bill, and as you said, it contains one one-thousandth of an ounce of gold, correct?
	Correct.
	Okay, so right now, let's just say a gold ounce coin is roughly $2,000.
	I know it's not exactly that, but we'll call it $2,000.
	So then the current U.S. dollar value of this would be somewhere around $2.
	Is that correct?
	Okay.
	That would be the melt value if you melted it down and turned it into a pellet.
	What kind of car do you drive, Mike?
	Well, I drive a truck, actually.
	I drive a Ford truck.
	Okay.
	So it's made out of steel and rubber, and it's probably got a catalytic converter with some rhodium in it, right?
	Correct, yeah.
	What's the melt value of your truck?
	Yeah, only a fraction of its utility value.
	Okay.
	But you paid more than Melt for it?
	Exactly.
	Why?
	Yeah, because of its utility, exactly.
	Right.
	So a goldback, I mean, you imagine, we take an ounce of gold, we split it into a thousand different pieces, and then every single unit, every single goldback has a serial number, and it's in a unit that has never, ever, ever been counterfeited before.
	And probably couldn't be.
	I mean, we're talking millions of dollars worth of equipment and decades of expertise to make one.
	So when we take the material and we work it, it does add value to it.
	If you have a one-ounce coin, just going through the U.S. Mint and then stamping it, it'll add about $50 to $100 of value per unit for a stamp.
	And that technology has been around for eons, right?
	Right, right.
	A goldback, we're able to get them down to under $2 a unit in terms of unit price.
	So we're really proud of...
	It used to be like a 6% to 800% premium to do something like a goldback.
	Right now, it's closer to like 100%.
	And I think it's going to stay there.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	So someone can buy...
	This from you or your dealers for roughly how much right now?
	Like four bucks.
	Four bucks?
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that's pretty incredible.
	Yeah, so it's not too bad.
	I mean, we're actually really proud of it.
	If you had tried to buy a bar that was as small as a goldback, like a quarter grain bar, you know, something just itty bitty.
	And they look like they're, you know, like the fingernail off of like a fingernail clipping off your pinky.
	I mean, these things are tiny, tiny, tiny.
	You know, you're looking at like six bucks.
	Right.
	You know, and you basically just roll those things out of a...
	So what's amazing to me, and again, one of the reasons why I wanted to have you on, our audience, they're very sophisticated, very high IQ. They know that inflation is destroying the value of the fiat currency dollar at an incredible pace.
	We've calculated it at about 2% per month, by the way, loss of valuation in terms of purchasing power of things that people really buy, like food and fuel and so on.
	2% a month.
	Now, what I like about your goldback is there's no dollar sign on it.
	It's not a dollar.
	And it's not even, it's not pretending to be a dollar.
	It's not tied to a dollar.
	Am I correct in all of that?
	Yeah, in terms of like Federal Reserve note dollars, they're not posing as Federal Reserve note dollars.
	That's not what a gold back is.
	And their value is independent.
	Of, I would think, of Federal Reserve Note value.
	So goldbacks came out in 2019, and when they were first sold, for the very first time, they were like $2.
	So you can get a $50 goldback for $100.
	You can get a $1 goldback for $2.
	All the pricing is interchangeable across the goldbacks, generally speaking, if you're dealing with a reputable dealer.
	And now, I mean, the average price is a lot closer to $4.
	So, you know, the dollar value, the US dollar value of the goldback has gone up a lot over the last three years in a way that would be consistent with the inflation that you're saying that we're having.
	The people that have owned goldbacks haven't been hit with that.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that answers my question.
	So, in terms of then using the gold bags, let's talk about that.
	Now, obviously these have to be physically handed to someone to use them or mailed, I suppose, or sent, you know, FedEx or what have you.
	There's no electronic, you know, back end to this, right?
	It's the physical bill because the gold is in the bill.
	There is one company that will vault goldbacks.
	They actually vault them for free.
	And you could transfer balances within a membership to each other for goldbacks.
	So that does exist.
	I don't think that's super common.
	For the most part, goldbacks are a lot more like cash, just like you said.
	It's going to look and feel like a cash transaction for 99% of people.
	So then you have merchants all over the place that accept goldbacks, because I saw they can put stickers in their windows like, we accept goldbacks here.
	Does that network exist?
	Is it starting to grow?
	Yeah, it exists and it's starting to grow.
	When goldbacks first came out, one of the early criticisms that we got was, well, no one's going to take your stupid goldback.
	No one wants to get paid with gold and silver.
	Those aren't really money.
	We just say that.
	That's crazy.
	This is the only real money.
	Gold and silver are real money.
	How come people don't get that?
	Well, okay.
	So my partner is Larry Hilton.
	He drafted the Legal Tender Act that got passed in Utah in 2011.
	And what he expected to have happen after Utah recognized gold and silver as money is he expected people to come out with their coin purses full of gold and silver coins and to engage in all sorts of commerce with them.
	And there wasn't a whole lot of evidence that that happened.
	I think the reason why is, and I hate to say this as a precious metals person, If you want to spend a $2,000 gold coin, you've got a few problems immediately.
	The first is that our market has been flooded with fake gold coins.
	So even if you have a purchase that you want to do and the other person is inclined to accept gold, they might not trust your gold coin, especially if they don't know you.
	And that's a big problem.
	So that's the first problem.
	The second problem is you're dealing with a $2,000 gold coin.
	I mean, what does this transaction even look like?
	You know, a lot of people buy gold coins just in case.
	And if you ask them, well, just in case of what?
	You know, there's a dirty bomb.
	It's an EMP. It's a communist revolution.
	You know, I mean, whatever just in case looks like.
	Just in case the US dollar doesn't buy things anymore, right?
	Just in case the $100 bills I have stashed away aren't that valuable.
	That's why I own gold coins.
	The next step of that is, okay, well, now you have a bag of $2,000 one ounce gold coins.
	Were you actually intending to spend those as gold coins, or was your plan to cash them in for whatever the currency was doing at the moment?
	And for most people, the answer is the latter one.
	It's like, oh, well, you know, I mean, gold will be a million dollars an ounce, so I'll just, you know, get a million dollars an ounce at the time.
	Or cash it into the next new currency that replaces the failing currency.
	We've had those discussions before.
	But it's not to use the gold coin directly.
	It's rare for me to encounter someone that seriously thinks that.
	Or if they do, they're buying the Volcambi bars that break off and the chips or whatever.
	Goldbacks are so different.
	Because it is convenient for small transactions.
	I mean, a single gold bag is...
	That's your case of bottled water.
	I mean, that's your loaf of bread.
	That's your dozen eggs.
	It's your small transaction.
	Correct.
	Right.
	And it scales up to big transactions as well.
	So then, it would seem then...
	As the dollar gets weaker, well, and I know people are going to say, well, it's strong compared to the British pound.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the dollar is just not failing as quickly as the British pound is failing.
	Okay, so we'll have that discussion later.
	They're all failing.
	Just go buy food and you'll find out they're all failing.
	But I would think that there'd be more and more demand for something like your goldbacks I know there's a lot more demand in physical gold and silver as well, especially junk silver, which has that small denomination that people like.
	Are you seeing more interest now because of the inflation scenarios?
	You know, when COVID hit a couple years ago, all the goldbacks sold out.
	And not only did they sell out, not only did every retailer sell out of every goldback, the only place that you could get them on was eBay.
	Really?
	And they were $50 apiece.
	For the one unit?
	For the one denomination that was worth like two and a half bucks or whatever at the time.
	Oh, that's crazy.
	Because people wanted a spendable form of gold.
	And frankly, there's just not enough goldbacks and the market dictates the value of a currency.
	And the same is true for goldback.
	Now, I'll say right now, up until today, we have been able to sell every single goldback That we can possibly physically produce.
	Really?
	Our biggest problem is production.
	That's it.
	Wow.
	And that's not a gold shortage.
	No.
	It's the vacuum deposit...
	It's the vacuum deposition bottleneck.
	So we're like literally buying vacuum deposition machines, multi-million dollar machines and having them installed and training crews and...
	There's millions of dollars being poured into it right now.
	Wow.
	And we have orders right now.
	I have contracts where we could sell between $25 and $30 million worth of goldbacks every month, and we're producing maybe $3 to $4 million a month.
	Wow.
	Well, that's a nice problem to have in your space.
	But also, I'm sure you understand that this needs to reach a critical mass in the consciousness of familiarity with people to really continue to take off.
	It's kind of like a parabolic response, I would think.
	Yeah.
	Here's the thing with cryptocurrency, and I'll give cryptocurrency people this.
	It's...
	If you have a new cryptocurrency and it gets popular, you're going to have a million users tomorrow, right?
	I mean, it's code.
	You can just keep dividing it.
	I actually have to make all these callbacks, right?
	Well, that's why we like your solution.
	Because we've all watched crypto just collapse, you know?
	And actually, I was one of the guys talking about why crypto shouldn't be trusted as an asset long ago.
	And people gave me all kinds of crap for that, by the way.
	I don't doubt it.
	Yeah, here we are.
	So the nice thing about Goldback is if you have these in your possession, let's say that your company, Jeremy, if your company collapses and your servers collapse and your website collapses, it doesn't matter.
	People still have these in their possession.
	Let's say that I get arrested and thrown in the deepest, darkest dungeon.
	They'll probably just make your value of goldbacks go up because we're not making them anymore, right?
	Oh my gosh, you're right.
	I hadn't thought about that.
	You're probably right.
	Okay, practical question.
	I notice if I rub my fingers on the back, I can feel the pattern a little bit of some of the words as they go through, like the word goldback.
	You can feel it with your finger like braille.
	What am I feeling there?
	Because the gold's not going to rub off, right?
	No.
	So the back of a goldback is literally a negative image of the front.
	And that's part of what makes them so dang difficult to counterfeit.
	You can read the serial number of the goldback through the goldback, and that's actually imprinted in the gold itself.
	So it's really high-end.
	I mean, this is like future Twilight Zone space money, you know, if you look at it closely.
	Okay, well I am looking at it right now.
	So one of my questions then, if I'm a merchant, if I have a little shop somewhere and I'm selling sandwiches and I want to accept goldbacks, how do I know that the goldbacks that people are handing me are legit?
	What can I check as a merchant?
	So you could read the serial number.
	If you read the serial number on there, you can read the same serial number through it.
	Me, personally, I wouldn't.
	And the reason why is because there's never been a fake goldback.
	To fake a goldback, and I think I mentioned this a few minutes ago, you'd need about $3 to $5 million worth of vacuum deposition equipment.
	And you'd have to have at least a decade's worth of experience to be able to make anything that looked even kind of close to a goldback.
	I mean, not to mention, you know, the government level, any counterfeiting features, and all the other things that are actually printed on there that all the other currencies have.
	I mean, that's just to make something that could...
	Well, but specifically as a merchant, okay, let's say I'm a merchant.
	I don't know anything about vacuum deposition.
	I just want to know, is this thing real?
	What can I look at?
	You know, because if I take a $100 bill, I can use the yellow marker, right, or I can hold it up to the light, look for the holograms or whatever the people do, you know, the embedded little magnetic read code, whatever that thing is.
	What can merchants do with your gold back?
	So there's six anti-counterfeiting features.
	If you look at the front, there are security strips that wouldn't really be easy to duplicate.
	The best anti-counterfeiting features, the back, where you're looking at pure gold and it's a perfect negative image of the front.
	If you're really worried about it, again, I would read the serial number through the bill.
	So you read it on the front and then you can read it through the bill on the back.
	If we're even more worried about it, I mean, you can do a serial number check and you can authenticate the gold back to see if it's real or not online.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, I see the serial number.
	Obviously, it's a reverse image, as you said, but yeah, you can see it coming through.
	Okay, cool.
	That's really interesting.
	All right, next question.
	A lot of our listeners are very successful business people, and they might be interested in retailing your gold backs.
	How does someone do that?
	You know, we started out saying that we really just want We're good to
	go.
	We didn't want every retailer selling goldbacks.
	I think we wanted to make it more exclusive.
	But we have included, I think, at times, like pawn shops and things like that, too.
	So if you're super interested and you think it would be an amazing fit, you know, you can email us.
	You can email info at goldback.com and, you know, apply to be a distributor.
	I want to say right now we've got somewhere between 50 and 100 direct distributor relationships.
	Yes.
	And then we've got more relationships, you know, through some of the other wholesalers of goldbacks.
	Is there like an investment minimum or anything that you want to talk about?
	Like you have to take on $50,000 worth of goldback inventory to begin or something like that?
	Not really.
	Again, I haven't super emphasized chasing down more distributors for goldbacks just because of the sales problems that we've had.
	So we'll let people dip their toes in the water if we approve them as a distributor.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Fair enough.
	Very cool.
	Well, I guarantee you you're going to have interest after this interview.
	You will experience that because, again, we have a lot of successful business people who are looking for ways to augment their existing businesses.
	Now, okay, next question for you.
	I know you don't mind having tough questions, but I remember covering stories years ago, like there was this one guy who would do unique artwork Kind of his own interpretation of what a $100 bill would be, and he would offer them to merchants, and he would say, this is my artwork.
	It kind of looks like a $100 bill.
	And I think that guy was arrested and charged with counterfeiting, which is absurd because it didn't look anything like a $100 bill.
	Have you had any problems with Treasury on this, anything like that?
	You know, one thing that I studied a lot before getting into Goldback, and I was extremely nervous about it, was the fate of the Liberty Dollar.
	And maybe that's...
	I don't think that's who you're referring to right now.
	No, but I know what you're talking about, yes.
	Well, there's the whole Liberty Dollar kind of fiasco.
	And, you know, the way it was presented to me is, here you have a guy...
	And all he did was, you know, made a silver round with a dollar value on it.
	And, you know, they went out and got him.
	Now, before doing Goldback, I researched it.
	I researched the FBI's case against him.
	I actually read the 48-page case against Bernard von Nothaus for the Liberty Dollar.
	And I learned things like, you know, it was an MLM. Oh, it was?
	Oh.
	The silver rounds were worth $10 apiece at the time in terms of melt value.
	Or no, they were $4 at the time and they had a $10 value stamped on them.
	So he was charging an extremely unusual premium for what the product actually was.
	And then the most damning thing is he's on video training people.
	To go to stores, and these are, you know, think like Wendy's, and go in and present these silver coins as, oh, this is the new silver dollar.
	Oh, gosh.
	Really?
	So, you know, I mean, these cashiers were taking them, because, I mean, the Treasury makes all sorts of stuff.
	You know, they've got a sack of Julia coins and numismatic.
	You know, like, it's within the realm of belief that there could be a silver coin.
	Uh-huh.
	And these people would go back to the bank with their $10 silver, and the bank would say, hey, this isn't a dollar.
	And that's where the counterfeiting case against this guy was built up.
	I see.
	The fact that we really go out of our way with Goldback to make sure that even the dumbest person doesn't think they're a dollar.
	No, they're not even the same size, shape, feel, texture, color.
	No, the same orientation.
	Dollars are horizontally oriented and ours are more vertically oriented.
	But also, the value is $4.
	Who on earth is going to pass that off as a dollar?
	You're losing 75%.
	Good point.
	Who's gonna believe it?
	It's like, hey, you know the Sacagawea coin?
	They made it look like a dollar.
	I would like to lose 75%, please.
	What does that even look like?
	We write on these things, not a U.S. dollar, on every single one.
	But no, we haven't got any pushback from the Treasury.
	We've had 2,000 local currencies in the U.S. The goldback is really just a series of local currencies operating under state law.
	Uh-huh.
	And we're finding that they're really popular outside of the respective states that there are local currencies in.
	Which states are those, by the way?
	So we have Utah, New Hampshire, Nevada, and now Wyoming.
	And I believe we have business networks in each of these states.
	And, you know, to answer your earlier question, because I don't think I answered this very well, I was hoping that about 5% of small business owners would accept Goldbacks' payment.
	When we actually went out and talked to small business owners, it was closer to, you know, 30 to 50%.
	We couldn't believe the acceptance rate for goldbacks.
	You mean that they were willing to accept it?
	Yeah, like they wanted it.
	I see.
	30 to 50%.
	Now, go ahead.
	Well, yeah, see, so we're, of course, a large online retailer to a lot of preppers, and there was a time when we accepted crypto.
	But, of course, we immediately converted the crypto into dollars using a plug-in with the shopping cart.
	Now, that plug-in has since vanished because of the crypto collapse.
	But as a merchant, we did not want to take any risk whatsoever of crypto valuation volatility.
	Whereas, if we could take something that's got gold in it, As far as I'm concerned, there's no risk because the metal's in the bill.
	It's there.
	You're stacking metal.
	You're not taking currency risk.
	So in my view, this would be the ideal currency, or not currency, but the ideal bill to accept.
	You know, and that's what we argue.
	And the big initial concern was, well, you know, how are we going to allow retailers to turn this back into cash if everybody actually just wants cash?
	And, you know, we set up all these systems for that.
	And what we found is that in the first year that we were doing this, and we'd signed up, you know, maybe 100 businesses, Only three of these businesses had ever come in saying, hey, I want cash for these goldbacks.
	Most people just want to keep the gold.
	Right, right.
	Because the plan is to circulate it, not turn it back into cash.
	So you do have a, can I call it a buyback program or something, where people, if they send you these goldbacks, you will give them fiat dollars?
	Yeah.
	I mean, they're as good as gold, you know.
	Of course we're willing to buy them back.
	We only get like 1% of them back.
	Right.
	May I ask you, what's the spread between what you sell them for and what you buy them back for?
	You know, for the longest time, we had a spread of zero percent.
	We didn't publish that.
	We just offered that because we didn't want anybody to feel like they lost anything on it.
	You know, I think most retailers, though, this is one specific retailer I'm talking about, not Goldback itself.
	Most retailers are going to probably charge a more regular spread, like 5% to 10%.
	Right.
	Which is pretty typical in silver, for example.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	But what about your company?
	Do you buy them back directly, or do you just send people to your retailers or dealers?
	Sure.
	Goldback itself doesn't really have to.
	We have one dealer that we bought.
	So it's kind of weird telling the story.
	So they did buy back at zero.
	We ended up purchasing that retailer about a year ago.
	So they're a subsidiary now, and they buy back Goldbacks.
	And that's Alpine Gold.
	And then may I ask you, what's their spread?
	Or what's the best spread that people can get if they wanted to do this?
	I think for walk-in traffic they do 0% still.
	I think otherwise it's 5%.
	Oh, okay.
	Now, changing gears here, what about, I would imagine you must be contacted by other countries, other nations that want, like nations that have had a history of failing currency, you know, that's a long list.
	But you would think that if they want economic stability, they would want something like this.
	Has any, if you can even talk about, I don't know, we didn't prearrange any questions here, but has any other nation contacted you with interest in this?
	I have to be careful what I say, because I am bound by NDAs.
	Okay, yeah, fair enough.
	I will say this.
	There are foreign central banks that today are trying to circulate their gold reserves, and they're doing it with these crappy bars that aren't very popular that they're looking for alternatives for.
	There are other nations that you would know that...
	Have expressed a huge amount, and by nations I mean foreign central banks here.
	There are foreign central banks that have expressed a huge amount of interest in goldbacks as kind of like a pilot for what could be done at a bigger scale within their own countries.
	Okay.
	So, you know, I think the technology is really going somewhere.
	I don't...
	I don't necessarily think that the gold-backed brand will cover the whole earth in every country, but I think it's very possible that you could see dozens of foreign central banks offering products similar to the gold-back.
	Because what do central banks have?
	You know, they have fiat currencies that are falling apart, but they also hold all these gold reserves.
	Now, nobody trusts them on a gold standard because the gold standard was abolished, right, and all the tokens became worthless.
	But if a central bank can circulate gold directly with this kind of technology, that's a huge solution for them.
	See, that's...
	I think this is the future of money because right now around the world, everybody's moving into digital wallets.
	Even the Bank of England, we're doing a story on them.
	They're going to try to roll out a digital wallet system.
	Digital wallets are being experimented with around the world.
	Those systems are complex, difficult for people to use, and they're vapor.
	They're not backed by anything.
	They can fail, and they can be hacked.
	You can lose everything.
	You can be controlled, surveilled.
	Whereas your solution, Goldbacks, the gold is in the bill, and the gold isn't spying on you.
	It's a key feature.
	Yeah, I had a bureaucrat, they asked me, they said, do you have any idea how many goldbacks actually circulate?
	And I answered, I said, how could I possibly know?
	I put these things out there, and they kind of have a life of their own.
	I've heard stories through the grapevines of communities that have adopted goldbacks.
	I've heard of them being used in casinos.
	I've heard of them being used in buying vehicles.
	You hear about stories, but for the most part, people really like the privacy of nobody has to know about their transactions.
	It's like cash just like that.
	And that's the biggest beef I have with any sort of digital system is privacy.
	Well, right.
	And also, think about it.
	We live in a world where we're constantly subjected to cyber attacks, hacks, power grid failures.
	You know, all these things take down digital systems.
	I mean, how often does the food stamp system go down, by the way?
	It's frequent.
	How often does your ATM not work?
	It's frequent.
	And by the way, banks around the world are starting to really limit withdrawals of your own cash.
	For example, Nigeria has a $45...
	A day limit on withdrawing your own cash.
	I mean, it's your money.
	They won't let you get it out.
	That's not a great solution.
	Yeah, that's rough.
	I think that as things get scarier, people look for alternatives because they don't want to feel like their money is inside of a giant trap that they don't have access to when they need it.
	And that's what these banks are turning out to be.
	Yeah, a giant trap.
	You nailed it.
	Yep.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Now, if someone takes some of your goldbacks and they burn them up or melt them down, the gold, obviously, which is not flammable, will still be there, but you will lose the utility value of the bill, but you'll still have the actual gold.
	Have you handled BBs for a BB gun?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	That's about loosely how much gold.
	Eh, a little less than that.
	There's a little bit less than that of gold inside a single goldback.
	So it's like, what would you rather trade with?
	Which denomination?
	The 50?
	The 1.
	Oh, the 1?
	Yeah, I'm actually thinking it's a little bit smaller than BB. I might have spoken out of turn.
	Yeah, it's probably quite a bit smaller.
	I mean, 1 1,000th of an ounce.
	Yeah, 1 1,000th of an ounce.
	Maybe that's, well, like a tenth of a BB? I don't know.
	But yeah, I get your point.
	It's a small little thing.
	What would you rather have?
	Something that's rolled out and has a serial number on it and a weight that's in a format that's extremely beautiful and unlikely to have been counterfeited.
	I'd say impossible, but never say impossible.
	Or the BB that you don't even really know for sure what it is.
	What would you rather be trading with and accepting? - Right.
	Well, right.
	And I'm even thinking, let's say you have a stack of these goldbacks in your safe, and then your house is on fire, and your safe heats up because they do that, and everything melts.
	Well, the gold is still there, even though you lost the goldbacks.
	Yeah, you'll lose half, but you won't lose all of it.
	Yeah, see, now that's critical for people, because if you have fiat currency dollar bills and they burn up, well, that's it.
	They're gone.
	You lose 100%.
	Sure.
	And then if you keep it in the bank, you lose 100% if the bank doesn't let you have it.
	Do you know what a $100 bill costs?
	To make?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Tell me.
	So the cost of labor and materials, it's 8 cents.
	Wow.
	So they're pretty.
	I mean, they look nice, right?
	And they got the security features in there.
	It's 8 cents.
	Now, that includes the labor and the manufacturing costs.
	Now, if you were to include the laboring and the manufacturing costs on a single goldback, the company that makes them loses about $0.08 per goldback it makes.
	They're produced in a loss.
	Isn't that your company?
	No, that's the manufacturing company.
	Oh, you mean the vacuum deposition company?
	Yeah, I was able to convince them to take a loss on the one because they profit off the other denominations a little bit better, so...
	Oh, okay, okay.
	So, wow, so it's actually a loss on the one.
	Yeah, it's a loss.
	I mean, how many products, let alone currencies, can you buy at a manufacturing loss?
	Right.
	Nowhere.
	Nowhere.
	If anything, I'd argue that goldbacks are grossly undervalued for what they are right now.
	But again, we haven't really advertised them a whole lot just because...
	Why are you going to dump advertising dollars into something that's sold out?
	Right.
	Or on the verge of selling out all the time.
	What about retailers like us that sell mostly online?
	Do you have retailers that are accepting goldbacks in the mail, essentially?
	Yeah, you know, I'm sure it's...
	I'm not going to pretend that a goldback is going to solve everybody's problems tomorrow, right?
	I mean...
	At some point, you'd have to have, like, credit unions, or you're going to have to have payment processors denominating things in goldbacks to make it easier for long-distance transactions.
	We have a few things that are kind of, like, in the pre-stages of that, but it's not an amazing currency for online transactions.
	It's just not right now.
	But I think a lot of our viewers believe that as these currently complex globalist systems break down more and more, that things are going to become more local anyway.
	Well, I'll tell you what I did.
	So I've got a neighborhood where we've got like 100 houses on top of this hill.
	I sent a Christmas card with a gold back to every single one of my neighbors.
	Right?
	So this is Utah.
	These are preparedness-minded people.
	A lot of them have food storage.
	Yeah.
	I know for a fact that about a dozen of my neighbors own quite a few goldbacks since then.
	So they got them from the other neighbors?
	Well, they bought some.
	Oh, okay.
	So what you've done is you've educated your local community about goldbacks.
	You've showed them what the money is.
	You can explain it to people.
	And the people that you think you're the most likely to trade with...
	You want them to already have the currency.
	Right.
	And that way I'm protecting myself because I know that if I have to walk out of my house and trade with somebody with goldbacks, they already know what they are and they already have some.
	See, I would like to buy several hundred of the goldback one denomination because when I tip waiters, when I tip people, when I buy things, let's say at a firearm store, I'm picking up a firearm transfer.
	I would like to hand these out, which is what Robert Scott Bell did to me, which is why we're having this interview, by the way.
	Just hand them out.
	Yeah, it's a semi-viral product.
	I mean, to sell out over the last few years, I want to say that we've spent under $100,000 in advertising and marketing.
	We're talking about millions of dollars in sales a month.
	These things kind of sell themselves because people, they get excited and it's a cause.
	It's a grassroots movement for sound money and there hasn't really been a whole lot of things like this.
	And they'll get goldbacks.
	They're extremely beautiful.
	They have a huge amount of novelty for their value.
	And they'll give them out as Christmas gifts to everyone they know.
	They'll give them out as tips to everyone they see.
	And when you do it, it just comes with a little 30-second sound money speech.
	And now you have somebody that owns precious metal for the very first time.
	You supported them on the journey.
	Yeah, I was joking in a podcast the other day, you know how California is looking at paying slave reparations to people whose ancestors might have been slaves.
	And I said, I fully support that idea if they pay it in honest money.
	So to put actual gold and silver into the hands of people of California, that was my observation on that.
	But last question, because I want to be respectful of your time.
	I don't know anything about how you got into this, and you can keep it short, but what inspired you, if I may ask, to do this?
	Because this is a huge project, fraught with some risk, obviously, and some people who don't get it must be critical.
	Oh, what do you need this for?
	Blah, blah.
	What got you into this?
	You know, what got me super sucked into the world of sound money initially Yeah, this is back when I was in college.
	I was just really kind of obsessed with it.
	I was just grabbing everything I could learn about sound money.
	It was the Ron Paul campaign in 2011.
	Oh, nice.
	And Ron Paul talked about sound money all the time.
	So that got me really interested.
	I started working in the sound money space starting in 2015.
	And that's where I worked at a coin store and a vaulting company.
	We did a gold-backed cryptocurrency.
	Not a gold-backed, but a gold-backed cryptocurrency in 2018.
	And it didn't do super well.
	It still exists, but it just wasn't very popular.
	And people wanted to hold it.
	They wanted to actually have it in their hands.
	They didn't trust the digital gold.
	Right.
	We did Goldback a year later.
	I'd met the manufacturing company and I helped them raise some money and was able to build a relationship there.
	So that really worked out.
	It's fun for me because next week, I think it's actually on Tuesday or Wednesday, it's going to go full circle.
	I get to talk to Ron Paul because he's excited about Goldbacks.
	Very cool.
	So I'm really giddy for that one.
	I have to, like, not sound like some crazed fanboy, but, you know.
	Well, it is Ron Paul, and of course we're all fans of him as well.
	And Senator Rand Paul is doing some great work.
	We're trying to recruit him to run for president or something like that.
	Okay, well, just to wrap this up, I'll mention...
	I'm the author of a book called Resilient Prepping, and it's being published next year by Skyhorse, by the way.
	And in that book, I talk about low-tech and no-tech solutions.
	Your goldbacks qualify as no-tech solutions in the sense that if all technology fails, this system of value continues to function.
	And that's what I love about it.
	It doesn't need electricity to hold value.
	And it doesn't need blockchain.
	It doesn't need computers.
	It fits in your wallet.
	I mean, we sell gold-back wallets, and, you know, I have these gold-backs in my wallet just because you never know when you're going to use them or, you know, introduce people to them or spend them or whatever.
	And I put my phone on the other side of them, and it actually works as a radiation shield for my phone.
	Oh, that's funny.
	That's right.
	Gold has unique properties, yes.
	Yeah, well, you know, I mean, if you've got a health-conscious, you know, group here, you know, I mean, that's one way to protect you from phone radiation.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, really great point.
	Okay.
	I want to encourage our viewers then.
	Goldback.com is the website.
	Is that where they should go if they want to purchase these?
	Or is there some other recommendation?
	Look at the buyer's guide on Goldback.com.
	I don't normally warn people.
	I will warn your audience.
	There are retailers that will charge like $5, $5.50 for a single goldback.
	They have reasonable prices for the rest of the denominations.
	I wouldn't recommend buying from these guys.
	There are retailers that will charge you under $4 for a goldback, and you can find them by going to goldback.com.
	Looking at the buyer's guide, anyone in the top four or five businesses on that list are going to be your best bets.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Fair enough.
	That's awesome.
	All right.
	Anything we've left out?
	No, I think you...
	I mean, we could probably talk about this for another couple hours, but I don't want to disrespect your time either.
	No, not at all.
	Look, we'll do it again, because I'm interested in us carrying your goldbacks at some point.
	Frankly, I can't tell you how impressed I am with this solution, and I don't say that lightly.
	And my listeners know that I'm very discerning about what I recommend or promote, but you've just nailed it.
	You've hit it.
	You've hit a home run here, I believe.
	And this is something that I would like to introduce to all kinds of people.
	I'm going to get a bunch of these and hand them out.
	That's what I'm going to do.
	Okay.
	I'll tell you what I'll do for you.
	I can get you some Wyoming alphas, probably, if you're going to hand them out.
	Okay.
	Whatever works, sure.
	That's like a first edition of the Wyoming.
	I mean, if you're going to hand them out, you may as well have, you know...
	We'll get you some nice ones.
	Okay, yeah.
	I'm going to light up Texas because I live in central Texas, and I'm going to get these into the hands of a lot of people in Texas.
	Well, I think Jim Rickards is giving them away with his book now.
	Well, Jim Rickards is awesome, too.
	We didn't even talk to him.
	He just started doing it.
	Yeah, that's the thing.
	Well, Rickards gets it.
	I mean, he was at long-term capital management, you know, the first too big to fail.
	He helped negotiate that bailout in 97 or 98.
	Remember that?
	No, I was a little kid.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, anyway, he was there, and that was the first too-big-to-fail, a big currency collapse that almost took out the global economy.
	And that's why Rickards knows the importance of honest money, because he also knows that the system is extremely fragile, the fiat currency.
	The debt system is extremely fragile.
	So anyway, yeah.
	All right.
	Well, thank you for your time, Jeremy.
	It's been an honor, and I really appreciate what you're doing.
	Yeah, I'm glad you like it.
	I'd love to talk to you about it later sometime.
	Well, we will definitely do that.
	We'll be back in touch.
	I would ask you to just hold on after we stop the interview to let your file finish syncing.
	I'll give you my number.
	We can keep in touch.
	If you have any announcements, we'll help get those out for you.
	Sounds great.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Absolutely.
	Okay.
	So that's the interview, folks.
	Jeremy Corden with Goldback.com.
	I'm going to get a bunch of these.
	Seriously, I'm going to hand these out.
	And folks, you can also share this interview.
	Feel free to repost it on your own channels, on other platforms.
	And we'll invite Jeremy back on sometime in 2023 as the inflation continues to get worse.
	Oh, that should be interesting.
	Okay.
	Maybe we'll end up buying food with these at some point.
	Get your grocery store to take it for ground beef or something.
	There's places that already sell food for goldbacks.
	We've got hundreds of retailers that advertise themselves as taking goldbacks.
	See, there we go.
	There's the answer.
	We have car dealerships taking goldbacks as payment.
	It's crazy.
	It's amazing.
	It's amazing.
	Well, thank you all for listening.
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