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Nov. 3, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Coach Dave Daubenmire sounds off on the church being PARALYZED in the face of evil
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Well, welcome, folks.
This is Mike Adams here, the founder of Brighteon.
And remember, we built a platform so we can have free speech conversations.
And my guest coming up right now is going to blow the lid on what it means to speak freely about issues that matter.
His name is Coach Dave Daubenmire, and he is known as the, well, he runs Pass the Salt Ministries.
His website is CoachDaveLive.com.
He's got a show on Brighteon.tv.
Also, every Monday morning, late morning, and on Sundays as well.
And he joins me now to talk about current events, the spiritual war, everything that's happening in America.
Coach Dave, it's an honor to have you on.
I appreciate you so much.
Thank you for joining me.
Mike, thanks for having us and thanks so much for giving some of our radical voices out here some traction and a place to be able to come and try to wake people up because we are in an unbelievable war, Mike, and we're only going to win this battle if we can really wake people up to what's going on.
Well, you use the word radical, you know, maybe satirically, because I think that the voices that you're talking about, who we are with Christian principles, with reason and rationality, with family values, this is not radical.
This is normal.
This is what normal human civilization should look like.
What we're fighting against are the radicals, wouldn't you say?
Well, exactly.
I did say that kind of tongue-in-cheek.
Yeah, I figured.
It's not radical.
I'm not a radical guy, but Mike, can I tell you the truth?
Some of my greatest battles, and we'll get into it here in a second, is trying to get the church to engage.
And when I talk about being radical, Mike, the idea that we should get out of our church pews and get out and engage the culture against...
the killing of unborn babies, against the gay agenda, against transgenderism, against wicked, evil government.
That idea, Mike, is radical in the American church.
For whatever reason, we've become convinced that we're just supposed to sit around and wait for the rapture or for whatever to happen.
And it's paralyzed us.
And I'm an old football coach, brother.
And if there's one thing I don't like, it's losing a game we should be winning.
And that's really where I feel we are.
Exactly, exactly.
Now, let's start with a little bit of your history, and you shared this with me before we started recording here, but, you know, I played football in high school.
I ran track for four years.
I played football for one year, and in that year, our coach always prayed with us, not only before the game, but also during halftime, especially prayed when we were losing, by the way, because we really needed prayer at halftime.
But, I mean, it was a normal thing.
We all prayed together.
Nobody had a problem with it.
No, nobody did, Mike.
In 1997, I was sued by the ACLU for praying with our football teams.
By the way, that was about eight years after I'd had a powerful born-again experience.
Really, this whole battle that came into my life as a result of the ACLU battle.
The Lord brought me into this battle, Mike.
I got sued in 1997.
I continued coaching.
We went undefeated my last year in 1999 football season, I walked away and started past assault ministries because I saw, I told everybody the British are coming, I saw what was coming over the wave, over the horizon, this anti-Christ movement coming over.
By anti-Christ, I don't mean the anti-Christ, I mean anti-Christian wave that was coming over.
I tried to jump out, get out in front of it and warn pastors and wake them up.
And that's really what we've been doing for the last 20, 23 years.
So the ACLU has since sued many coaches or other people in positions of any kind of influence.
You know, the ACLU has gone from a civil liberties organization to what I would characterize as basically a satanic institution of the globalists at this point.
I mean, what do you make of them?
Well, it reminds me of the old movie.
I'm maybe a little older than you, Mike.
I'll be 70 at the end of this month.
I go back to Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid when they were being chased by that posse.
And the Sundance Kid kept looking back and saying, who are those guys?
That's what I think about the ACLU. Who...
Mike, who the hell are these guys that they think they have all this power that they can literally come in and remove Christianity out of the heart of America?
And that's what's been going on since their inception back in the early 1960s, the lie of the separation between the church and state, no prayer in schools.
They have been on an all-out assault.
On Christianity.
Now let us never forget this, friends.
It's a battle between the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman.
It's not Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative, old, young.
In any of that, it is a clear-out assault on the children of Christ against the children of the devil.
And Mike, unfortunately, because we in the church have laid back and not fought back so much, the devil's kids seem to be in charge of everything.
The education of our children, what we watch on TV, the news media, the government.
And it's because I believe we've failed to live out Matthew 5, 13, where the Lord says that we are the salt of the earth.
That's why when I started the ministry, my wife and I, we called it Pass the Salt Ministries.
Because those of us who are Christians, who are the salt of the earth, dude, we've got to get out of the salt shaker.
We've got to pass the salt.
And so I've been watching this with great frustration over the last 20-some years, seeing it coming.
And Mike, I tell everybody the five saddest words in the English language is, I saw that one coming.
I saw that one coming.
And that's the way I've felt for 20 some years.
Well, to what do you attribute this, the fact that so much of the institution of the church that exists in America today seems to be paralyzed in the face of evil, if not, by the way, if not infiltrated in some cases.
By pure satanic evil, because I've seen churches hosting drag queen storytime shows and transgenderism for children in the church, which, I mean, come on, that's a satanic temple at that moment.
But what do you think?
Well, I think that it tells us in 2 Thessalonians that because we rejected the truth, the Lord would send a strong delusion that they would believe a lie.
And the church has rejected truth, Mike.
Some of the stuff that you've been talking about, they don't even stand up and fight to protect unborn babies.
They won't even stand up and fight to defend marriage.
They won't even stand up and fight to keep a man a man and a woman a woman.
And I think part of what's going on is judgment of God upon the church.
That's what the whole COVID thing...
See, if the church, Mike, had stood up and said, no, we're not closing our doors and pushed back against the government, then I'm not so sure that we'd be in the situation that we're in now.
But this whole idea that the church is always supposed to follow the edicts of the government, that is a lie from the pit of hell.
That's why we're in the mess that we're in.
Jesus Christ is above the government.
Mike, we're not subservient to it.
Why, though, why are so many church leaders so willing to compromise?
Because, you know, they seem terrified of criticism, which is crazy.
Have they not read the Bible and the experiences of Christ himself?
I mean, if you're afraid to be criticized, you're never going to be able to be a pastor that's effective, period.
No, so we're dealing with two issues, in my opinion.
Bad theology.
Bad theology.
Meaning what?
Always obey the government.
That's bad theology, Mike.
All you can do is read the book of Acts, and those guys were always pushing back against the authorities.
In fact, so did Jesus.
People say, Jesus didn't get involved in politics.
I think, how stupid are you?
The politics of the day was the Sanhedrin and the Pharisees and the Sadducees, and that's the guys that he took on.
He didn't take on Pilate.
He stood before Pilate in Rome and said, you got no power over me.
His fight was not with the government.
It was with the, well, because the church was the government in his day.
So everything Jesus did, not everything, but it was political, Mike.
So number one, we got bad theology.
And number two, can I tell you the real issue?
We got sissies in the pulpit, Mike.
We have cowardly men in the pulpit.
The former football coach at Ohio State, John Cooper, said a statement that I never forgot.
He was talking about whether or not a guy would be aggressive on a football field.
He said this, if they don't bite his puppies, they won't bite his dogs.
And Mike, we got guys who are in the pulpit who do not have the nature to bark.
You understand what I'm saying?
I do.
Yeah, I do.
And all they try to do is just get along with whatever society is throwing their way, which increasingly is not just transgenderism, but then pedophilia and child mutilations, and of course abortion on top of that as well.
So if they don't stand up now...
What would they ever stand up against?
I mean, would they let the altar of the church be used just to have radical, demonic leftists raping children at the church and live streaming it or something?
I mean, it seems like there's nothing they won't say no to.
No, because again, I think it's bad theology.
Number one, they think they have to obey the government, right?
And number two, Mike, they think they're going to be raptured out of here soon.
I don't argue with people over the rapture doctrine.
Have whatever doctrine you want to.
But I know this.
The Bible says to occupy till I come.
And the last I've seen, he hasn't come.
We ought to be occupying.
Instead, we're cowering in fear, praying that he comes and rescues us before the trouble really, really hits.
And Mike, it's at our door right now, brother.
It's right now at our door.
And I just had my own pastor, Bill Dunphy, was just arrested for something he did on January 6th.
We're almost two years removed from that, and they just arrested him two weeks ago.
I had 11 of my friends...
Really?
Yeah, who've been charged with a face violation down in Louisville, Kentucky.
No, it was Tennessee, down in Tennessee.
11 of them charged with face violations, facing 20 years in jail.
Mike, the Biden administration...
The Attorney General Garland, he is on a get-even rant against Christians because why?
He didn't get to be on the Supreme Court.
You remember all that?
So, brother, he has gone with a vengeance to try to put in my opinion.
He's in battle.
The seed of the serpent, that's him, against the church.
He's trying to destroy the church.
Well, that's...
Yeah, clearly that's the case.
And...
I believe, depending on how this upcoming election goes, and you and I are talking here on November 2nd, so the election is in six days, I believe, and depending on how that goes, if Republicans take the Senate and the House, you can bet there are going to be investigations, including...
Efforts to impeach Merrick Garland, by the way, to impeach him.
I believe Ted Cruz has talked about that.
I think Rand Paul is talking about Nuremberg 2.0 or equivalent to look into the COVID crimes and the COVID conspiracies.
So, you know, we can start to turn the corner, but we are so far down the dark hole.
It's not going to be republicanism and conservatism that's going to save us.
It's just not going to be.
I agree with you, yeah.
And that's why I tell everybody, certainly the elections are important.
But James Carville told us back when Bill Clinton was in office that all politics are local.
And that's one of the things that we try to do at Pass Assault Ministries is we try to raise up people locally to go to their school boards, to the county commissioners meetings, to their city council meetings, to stand up and push back and win these battles locally.
Because first of all, we're giving way too much authority to the federal government.
They don't have that authority, Mike.
The Supreme Court does not have that authority.
And so the more we can get our eyes off of the feds and get our eyes locally with our local sheriff and our local officials and simply stand up and say, we will not comply.
I believe that's really our only chance to win.
This is not going to be a top-down victory, Mike.
It's going to be a bottom-up.
That makes perfect sense.
And folks, Coach Dave's website is CoachDaveLive.com, CoachDaveLive.com, in addition to the shows on Brighteon.tv and elsewhere.
Do you have a channel where you post videos on Brighteon or other video platforms?
I put most of them, Mike, at CoachDaveLive.com.
As you can imagine, I got booted off YouTube a long time ago, right?
And so I got a good web guy.
Now look, this sounds stupid.
My web guy handles for that.
Yeah, I'm on...
Brian, I've got some, Brian, but yeah, I'm on all those platforms.
I'm on Rumble.
We're out there everywhere.
We're on Facebook.
Our videos are everywhere, but we tell people if you really want to know what's going on and you really want to get involved, then you've got to connect with us at CoachDaveLive.com.
I'm not trying to get your money.
We don't beg for money.
We're not doing that, but we're trying to organize teams all across America, Mike, and You mentioned, or I mentioned earlier, we actually took 130 people to Bill Barr's house right after the election.
Remember that whole mess that was going on?
Oh, yeah.
We prayed with him.
We appealed with him.
Actually, he came out of his house and spoke to us.
We appealed with him to do the right thing, and we convicted him so much.
I believe the Holy Spirit convicted him so much.
About three weeks later, he resigned.
We've been to the Georgia Guidestones.
We've been to Biden's house.
We've been to Hillary's house.
Mike, this is what we do.
And so what we see happens when we took 130-some people to the January 6th event, well, now they want to blame the rest of us for the violence that took place when all we did was go to peacefully assemble and petition our government for redressive grievances.
So, Mike, they're trying to make sure that nobody comes back to Washington, D.C. anymore.
That's what it is.
They're trying to scare everybody to stay home, stay out of our business.
We're going to tell you all how to behave.
Mike, we've got to understand the times in which we live and know what it is that we need to do.
We're not afraid of those guys.
Yeah, they're locking up some of my friends.
Yeah, they could lock me up.
But do you think we're going to win this fight without any casualties?
The Bible says they're going to strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter.
I believe that's their philosophy.
That's what they're trying to do.
Get the leaders.
Scare the leaders.
Lock up the leaders.
And then the rest of the people fall in line like sheep.
Well, they've locked up the pastor in Canada.
Is it Artur Pawlowski?
What's his name?
Yes, Artur Pawlowski.
Yes.
Right, right.
I think he's under house arrest still, facing trial early next year, I believe.
And, you know, they've thrown him in jail.
We've interviewed him before.
Very courageous Christian man who stands his ground.
But it's clear that Christians are being targeted for persecution.
That we are living in a nation where we have political prisoners, hundreds of them, in jails in D.C. who are being tortured, by the way, by a country that claims to stand for human rights, which is...
Never been proven guilty, right, Mike?
They've never even had a trial.
They've been in 18 months and they're still in there.
Exactly.
That is political persecution, and that is torture, and that's a denial of due process.
So, you know, on an actual rational basis, you're right, Coach Dave, that we've lost our country.
We've got to get back the basic civil rights, human rights, due process rights, all of that.
Here's a key, Mike.
The First Amendment.
I like to ask people to recite the rights listed in the First Amendment.
By the way, those aren't rights.
Those are restrictions put on the government.
Okay, I'll take up your offer on that.
I mean, I'll give it a shot.
Okay.
The right to peaceably assemble.
The right to freedom of the press.
Let's see.
The right to religious expression.
That's three.
The right...
Okay, I'm stuck at three.
Okay.
The number one, the first one I put in is, Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of a religion, nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
So when somebody wanted to go get a jab and didn't want to get the jab to go to work, that's the number one right, Grant, that the Constitution protects.
Their right to exercise their faith.
Your faith is no good if you can't exercise it, right?
Then you have the freedom of the press.
Then you have the freedom of assembly.
Of assembly, right.
Yep, yep.
Freedom of assembly and the right of the people to peaceably assemble.
Mike, that's the last right that they've taken from us.
Up until this point, we've always had the right to assemble.
Well, they clamped down on that one after January 6th, and now they're simply throwing people in jail for showing up to petition their government.
Hey, Mike, if you can't go to where your officials are, how do you petition them?
Exactly.
Right.
And another thing is, if that was an armed insurrection, why was nobody charged with carrying guns?
They were carrying bibles and bullhorns and flags and MAGA hats.
There wasn't a violent insurrection, but again, that's how the lying Luciferian media plays it, and unfortunately, people on our side believe them.
No, it's incredible, but what are the other rights in the First Amendment besides those three?
We got the freedom of religion and the freedom to exercise it.
You have the freedom of the press.
You have the freedom to assemble and to petition our government for redress of grievances.
Mike, if you read the First Amendment, there is no period.
It's colons because they are all included together.
But they've taken away religion.
I couldn't pray as a football coach, right?
When I was being sued by the ACLU, I asked a very simple question.
Show me where it says I can't pray as a football coach.
Well, of course, they couldn't find that.
They don't care, right?
Because we've fallen under this delusion of judicial supremacy.
Courts don't make law.
Courts offer opinions.
Laws are made by our legislature, right?
That's why we vote them in.
But we've allowed the idea of judicial supremacy to take root because the Luciferian left knows if they can get control of the courts, they can in fact impose their values on us.
And people are still dumb enough to think that our rights come to us from government.
The Second Amendment, Mike, says...
The Second Amendment says that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
What?
A well-regulated militia being necessary for the security of the free state.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
It's restrictions on the government, Mike, not freedoms granted by the government.
Well, yeah, exactly.
But as you say, it's all been twisted upside down.
And then with the media propaganda and the government-sponsored censorship that has come out recently in the media, we know that government ordered big tech who to censor.
So that right there is a blatant violation of the First Amendment.
I mean, that means that this government is a criminal enterprise, and this has been going on even...
Since Obama, by the way, the criminality of government ordering Big Tech who to censor, that's illegal.
That's illegal.
The people who carry that out should be arrested and indicted for their crime and their violence.
Yes, it might.
The problem we run into all the time is to whom do you redress your grievances?
Who do you go and ask them to make it right?
We went to the Supreme Court about the election.
They wouldn't deal with it.
We went to the local Republicans.
They wouldn't deal with it.
And let me throw this in there.
The reason the Republicans won't deal with it, because they know the system's rigged too.
And many of them hold their positions through fraudulent voting.
So they don't...
They don't want that system exposed because they're all going to get their foot caught in that trap, Mike.
So, you know, we've got to wake up and understand exactly what's going on around us.
They arrested Engelbert, the lady who's doing all the research on the elections.
They threw her in jail a couple days ago.
This is crazy, isn't it?
Alex Jones, they're charging Alex Jones how much for simply having an opinion that is foreign to the government?
It's crazy.
Almost a billion dollars, yeah.
Crazy, right?
So it's a battle over truth.
It's over truth.
And Mike, we have to stand up and speak the truth.
And I tell everybody on my show, do it locally.
I mean, we go to D.C. We go to all these places, but you've got to do it locally.
If you don't win the battle locally, stand up and speak at school boards and say, you're not going to teach that crap to my children.
You're not going to teach my son.
He can be a daughter.
If we don't stand up and start pushing back locally, we'll never win this big battle.
And Mike, I just would encourage those that are listening to us right now, go light a fire under your pasture.
Go light a fire under your pasture.
We know that America was saved by the black-robed regiment during the Revolution.
And now we've got the pink-robed regiment, men who are afraid to stand up and speak.
The Bible in Isaiah 56.10 says, Israel's watchmen are blind.
They're dumb dogs, afraid to bark.
That's where we are.
And now, increasingly, the things that you're talking about, by the way, that is, you know, lighting a fire under your pastor, right?
Energizing your pastor, showing up at the school board meetings, you know, showing up at the city council meetings.
We see that Merrick Garland and the DOJ and the corrupt Biden regime is characterizing these activities as insurrection.
Right.
Which, of course, is absurd, but that's exactly what's happening.
That tone is being set so that if anybody ever counters the narratives of pedophilia or grooming in the schools or anything, then immediately you're going to be labeled a terrorist and possibly whisked away before you can cause trouble.
So Michael, on my Brideon show, I think it was two weeks ago, if people would go see it, I think it would be really enlightening to them.
I talked about lawfare.
Lawfare.
That's what Merrick Garland and the Justice Department is doing.
They arrest you and charge you, and then you've got to go get $50,000 to defend yourself.
You may win, but do you really win when you've got to pay that kind of money to prove that you're innocent?
So I believe, Mike, they don't even care if those people they have locked up are innocent or not.
They don't care.
They're going to break them financially.
They're going to force them to lose their jobs and lose their homes.
And those guys are paying a horrible price.
And that's why some of those guys have languished in prison for 16, 17 months and still have not had a hearing.
That's a violation of the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution.
Clearly.
And the 14th as well.
It's a total violation.
And you have to wonder, are they going to have to stay in those jails until maybe a Republican president is elected and then pardons them or until the system collapses or something?
How are these people ever going to have their day in court or be set free?
Well, how about this one, Mike?
Do you know of any Republicans that are really standing up trying to get those guys out?
In fact, I hate to say this, has Donald Trump said anything about getting those guys out?
See, there's no attention being given to what's going on.
Right in front of us, this is happening to these, for the most part, God-fearing men, patriotic men and women, who showed up to do nothing more than complain about the fact the election was stolen.
I mean, we watch NFL football.
We watch college football.
They have...
Video reviews, Mike.
If there's a flag on the play, they go back and they show that play from 16 different directions to see if the guy really did grab the face mask, right?
And here we have the most unbelievable, questionable call in the history of America, and they won't even do further review.
Nobody will even look at it.
It's unbelievable.
Times are in.
Well, clearly, yeah, because they don't want the real story to come out.
They have to keep their narrative going.
That's right.
I think that's one of the reasons why they have all these people locked up, because they don't want these people appearing on interviews, right, and talking to the press, or writing their own blogs, or filming their own videos, or what have you, because they were witnesses to what really went down.
Right.
Silencing of the media.
Again, we went there.
My wife and I, we made it...
We had a bunch of people there, Mike, and we were just patriotically parading.
We were in no violence.
My wife and I made it up to the top of the Capitol.
We didn't go in the Capitol.
We were sitting to the steps with a bunch of other people just looking around at the million...
Millions of people.
Man, this is crazy what's going on here because people were walking in and out of the Capitol.
The doors were wide open.
Nobody was trying to stop you.
My pastor buddy got arrested for street preaching.
Street preaching.
Yes, yes, standing up.
We've got to take our country back.
We've got to take...
Do they really think he was going to take it back with a bullhorn?
What did they think?
So, again, it's the same thing.
They have lied to us because their father is the father of lies.
They are of their father, the devil, and the works of their father they will do.
And we're in the mess that we're in because those of us who are the children of God, Mike, we won't contend.
We won't earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered to the saints.
We are the salt of the earth, the light of the world, and instead we've tried to be the sugar, the molasses, the honey of the earth, and we won't stand up and let our voices cry.
And if they silence my voice, Mike, they silence your voice, they silence the hosts on Brideon, they silence the voice of God.
We can't let them do that.
And there is a rising backlash against the tyranny.
I think you've seen this over the last two years.
I know our audience has.
I'd like you to speak to that.
What are you noticing in terms of people saying, okay, enough is enough, we see the depth of the problem now, and we've got to do something to change this?
It starts with little stuff, Mike, and that's just not complying with the mask mandate.
My wife and I got in more trouble because we wouldn't wear masks.
And, you know, again, there it was.
Pastors tell us, obey the government, wear the mask.
We know what a fraud that is.
You've been all over that.
You've been talking what's going on.
Everybody knows what's going on, right?
But again, see, we've lost the idea of, number one, We obey God, not the government.
The Bible says to forsake not the assembling of ourselves together, even more as we see that day approaching.
So as the government tells us to not assemble, we ought to assemble more.
And the second thing is that we are putting our trust in men.
It's a separating of the sheep and the goats.
And how many of our churches, Mike?
Did not stand up and say, not only are we not going to take the vaccine, the Bible tells us not to put any deadly thing in us.
Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit.
So I think the whole thing has been a test to show us exactly where God's people are.
And it's a pretty ugly picture.
Now, here's the good news.
Those guys who are all in...
Dude, they're all in.
They're all in.
And we spent about 60 years letting the devil run loose, and we're just now beginning to build a game plan on how we fight back against this darkness.
It's really, really just enveloping all of us.
So are you seeing signs of the strengthening of the pro-human teams, the pro-Jesus teams, you know, just whoever is on the side of human civilization, is it growing stronger?
Yeah, we're getting there, Mike.
My buddy John told me this.
He said, Coach, it's going to be a rude awakening.
And then a great awakening.
And the rude awakening, Mike, is when they find out, as they're starting to find out now, that the masks didn't work, the vaccines didn't work, the vaccines are making people sick, the vaccines are killing people.
When people come to the realization of what actually happened, how they have been duped, we're going to see rage in America like we've never said that.
That's why, like we've never seen.
That's why I tell the FBI, and they're listening right now probably, listen dudes, we're trying to prevent violence.
And if you keep lying to people, and we don't have equal justice in America, there's going to be rage that's going to come up out of the heartland like you have never seen.
And I tell the FBI, I told the Secret Service, I'm on your side.
Do your job.
Will you please do your job?
And Mike, thus far they haven't done it.
Well, just in the last few days, in response to that article in The Atlantic calling for amnesty for all the COVID crimes, the backlash against that article has been absolutely epic, off the charts, across independent media and even mainstream conservative media as well.
Massive backlash shows me that there is seething anger among the people whose children were ripped out of schools and forced to wear face masks and whose parents or grandparents died in hospitals.
People who were forced to be vaccinated essentially or coerced and have suffered injury or even some people have died.
In fact, over a million deaths estimated in the United States so far with many more to come.
You know, it shows me that that the people that are not at all going to say, oh, yeah, we'll just forgive and forget, you know, that.
The Code of Criminals need to be held to account for their actions.
Hang them high, right?
Let's hang them high.
And I talked about that actually on my show this morning, Mike.
Listen, I believe in forgiveness.
I've received forgiveness.
Christ has forgiven me.
But listen, saying you're sorry does not cancel the penalty for what you've done.
If I go and burn down a house, I can go to the homeowner and tell him I'm sorry, but somebody's got to rebuild that house or pay to rebuild it.
And see, we believe that when somebody says they're sorry about That therefore that cancels all punishment.
Well, try that in court.
See how that works out for you, right?
It's called crime and punishment.
And the Bible says that the Lord loves justice and mercy.
And that mercy follows justice.
So you cannot offer mercy to somebody until they've been held accountable for what they've done.
Well said.
Exactly.
I said it in my podcast, too.
I said, I'm more than happy and willing to forgive these people after they're convicted and sent to life in prison.
Amen.
They've got a price to pay, right?
And I will visit them in prison and offer them forgiveness as they apologize and serve out their life sentences because they destroy the lives of millions of people.
I mean, they're mass murderers.
They are.
They are.
And Mike, I also, I hate to say this, but it's kind of what I do, you know.
I think the pastors, I think the pastors need to really, really fall on their face and beg for forgiveness as well, because we wouldn't be in this mess.
A lot of Christians are going to suffer the consequences of having taken that unnecessary jab, Mike.
Oh, that's so true.
Tony Spell down in Louisiana, Bill Dunphy here in Ohio.
There are some brave, brave guys out there.
They're really fighting back and pushing up, and they're paying a price for it.
When most of the pastors chose to take the easy route and obey the government.
Now, at the beginning, I give them grace at the beginning, because nobody knew how serious this thing was, Mike.
But as it went on and on and on, we saw what was going on.
I remember my wife came home two years, two and a half years ago, and said, Honey, they're going to close down the stores.
I said, What?
They're not going to do that.
Joke's on me.
They did it.
They'll never be able to pull that off.
And they're going to close down the churches.
Yeah, that's right.
And they're going to try to do it again, and they're not going to get away with it this time.
Well, that's the thing, is they want to do this again.
They got a little taste of tyranny, the total power and control over people's lives.
Which makes them, the tyrants, makes them feel like they're gods or something, right?
They can crush a life, they can destroy a life, and they get a power trip off of that, which is really some twisted evil stuff, by the way.
It is, Mike, but they have to do it again.
They have to do it again.
Because if they don't do it again, the truth is going to come out.
The truth is coming out now, right?
I run into people every day whose eyes are open and who understand what's going on.
They can't continue to hide this.
So I believe they have to do something desperate because I think they know that they weren't able to pull it off the way they thought they were going to be able to do it.
Well, now, the relationship between the pastor and his flock, or her flock, whatever the case may be, it still requires the members of the congregation to make their own decision in alignment with God's teachings, even if the pastor has gone astray.
So there's also responsibility on the part of the members of these congregations.
Even if the pastor said, you should take this jab, each individual should have known not to take this jab.
They should have, Mike, but again, the church system has been set up as a monarchy.
You don't question the pastor.
Oh, that's crazy.
That's not the way it was designed.
The church is supposed to be, we're all in.
Everybody has a song.
Everybody has a verse or come together in fellowship or equal partners.
Yes, the pastor gives direction, but you've got elders and all that.
But most of America's churches are pastor-run.
He is king of the church.
And that is not healthy.
And again, that's part of the reason we're in the mess that we're in.
Because people have become dependent or reliant.
Just like we have on government.
Just like we trust Donald Trump.
And God bless Donald Trump.
But I don't care if Donald Trump comes back.
Because again, we've got to do it locally.
Donald Trump can't save us.
So we've been too long listening to our pastors when, as I said earlier, they're afraid to bark.
They're afraid.
They're not going to get themselves in trouble.
And so that's where big upheaval is coming, I think.
Christianity, church like we've done in the past, Mike, that age is over.
We'll never do it like that again.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, the question is, where do we go from here?
And do you have a positive outlook of where we end up here?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, tell us about that.
Yeah, it's like this.
I used to tell our guys when we were coaching football and be running our sprints at the end of practice.
Their tongues are dragging and their tails are dragging.
And I'd say, hey, you're going to thank me.
You're going to thank me come Friday night.
You're going to be glad that I put you through this because I'm preparing you for the tough times.
And Mike, there are tough times coming, brother, but I believe on the other side of it.
We're going to get through it.
But we have to be prepared to understand that there are really, really tough times coming, whether it's financial, whatever, health-wise, whatever.
We're going to see, like I said, a rude awakening.
There's going to be some tough plowing, some tough sledding.
But the Bible says, goodness and mercy will follow us all the days of our life.
And I try to tell my friends Goodness and mercy is behind us.
It's there as a result of us coming through.
When I cut a path through the woods, Mike, goodness and mercy follows me because other people are able to follow my trail.
So we're in a situation where some of us are going to have to go cut a path through and then goodness and mercy is going to follow us.
I'm very optimistic that the Lord is going to win this battle right here, right now, but it's going to be an ugly slug for sure.
Yep, yep, exactly.
Well, I'm right there with you.
We're going to go through some really hard times.
And last question for you today, let us talk about the rapture.
And I know it's highly controversial, but I'm going to say I've heard far too many people use their belief about a pre-trib rapture as an excuse to be passive and to do nothing.
You know, and I Actually, I don't apologize for saying that.
I've seen too many people lean on that excuse and say, oh, I don't have to prepare.
I don't have to do anything.
We're all going to be out of here.
Come on.
I mean, is that really how God wants you to prepare?
What are your thoughts, Coach David?
Let me turn on the other side of it, Mike.
I live about 35 miles from downtown Columbus, Ohio.
It's the 12th largest city in America.
And I asked my friends, if you got word that they had just set off a nuclear bomb in downtown Columbus, and that you had 35 minutes before the radiation got here, would you just sit in your room?
Or would you be burning up the phone lines and running and telling everybody you know to run for cover?
Well, we have people tell us that Jesus is about to return.
The eastern sky is going to split and we're going to be out of here.
And Mike, they don't even tell anybody.
They sit quietly in their home, right?
So it tells me that they don't even believe what they say they believe.
Because if they believe there was a rapture, they'd empty their bank accounts and give them to me and I'll go out and raise hell with it.
No, but you have a point.
They're not acting in a way that's consistent with the beliefs they claim to hold.
No, that's right.
You're right.
Yeah, I mean, if they thought the rapture was going to happen any day now, they'd be telling everybody.
Why would they waste time going to a job, like a 9-to-5 job?
That's right.
Go on vacation, playing golf all the time, right?
Going to Disney World.
It's amazing.
Well, maybe that's not the best example.
Well, I know a lot of Christians that go there, though, brother.
That's part of the problem.
Oh, I see.
I see.
It's part of the problem.
So again, our theology does not match our behavior.
Right.
It just doesn't.
And the whole idea that...
For instance, with what's going on with transgender men in schools and the story time hours in libraries, you mean to tell me parents are actually letting that be taught to their children?
You've got to be kidding me!
But we are, Mike.
Christian people are.
Because why?
Well, just a sign of the times.
We're going to be out of here soon.
That attitude's killing us, brother.
It is.
It really is.
And folks, you know, look.
You can believe whatever you want to believe, but be prepared for all the possibilities because there are many different interpretations of the timeline here.
And no person knows the day or the hour of what comes down, when it happens, what it looks like.
I've got nine of the most beautiful grandchildren my wife and I do.
Our oldest one, she's 12 years old.
And every day I get up, I look at them and say, you know what?
They're counting on me.
They're going to take the nation that I leave to them, Mike.
Like I said, I'm 70 years old.
I've got 10 years left, whatever.
I don't know how long it is.
But what kind of dad, what kind of grandpa leaves this mess to his grandchildren?
The only reason we can do that is if we think we're out of here.
So it all ties together in my mind.
And I know we're going to be out here at some point.
I don't know when it is.
The Lord said, occupy till I come.
And I get up every day and I look at the picture of my grandkids and I go to war to try to make this a better world for them.
There you go.
Well said.
Coach Dave Dobbenmeier, I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts with us.
I want to remind the audience your website is CoachDaveLive.com.
And you've also got a show on Brighteon.tv.
Mondays at 11 a.m.
Eastern.
That's Brighteon.tv.
Any other final thoughts you want to mention?
No, we're winning.
Guys, we're winning, folks.
We are winning.
And see, that goes so much against the narrative, Mike, because everybody in the church wants to believe we're losing.
We're going to lose.
And when I come to them and say, listen, we're winning this thing.
All you got to do is look around.
Look at the desperation of the Luciferian left.
Look at what they're doing.
Look how they're overplaying their hand.
We're winning.
We're about to make a great play.
That's one of the hardest things to do is to try to change people's attitudes.
But Mike, that's what coaching is all about, brother.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Well said.
All right.
Well, fantastic.
Coach Dave, it's been an honor speaking with you.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me.
And, you know, God bless you.
And I'll say God bless America for all of us.
And let's just keep playing our part in this.
I mean, doing what we are called upon to do.
And we may just get through this together.
So thank you so much, Coach Dave.
It's been a pleasure.
Honored, Mike.
Thanks a lot.
All right.
Thank you.
Now, for those listening, again, feel free to repost this interview on your channel, your platforms, wherever.
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So thank you all for listening.
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