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Oct. 28, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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EXTENDED interview: Mike Adams and David DuByne reveal alarming details about the coming GLOBAL FAMI
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Welcome, everyone.
This is Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon and brighteon.tv, and today we are joined by a very special guest.
You've seen him before, but he's got new information that's pretty bombshell.
In fact, he sent me a bunch of notes on this, and I'm just, my jaw is dropping.
So you're going to hear about it.
His name is David Dubine.
Yes, the David Dubine from Adapt2030.
That's his channel name.
On YouTube and other platforms, and he's also on BrightTown.TV with a show every other Friday at 2 to 3 p.m.
Eastern Time.
Again, that's on BrightTown.TV. And David Dubine is the most knowledgeable researcher, I believe, on agricultural cycles and trends and the grand solar minimum and all these things that are happening.
He's doing extraordinary work, and there's not very many people who are doing that.
So, David Dubine, welcome to the interview.
It's a pleasure to have you back on.
Yeah, thank you for allowing me the platform here to talk about, you know, the destruction of agriculture across the planet in terms of what we've seen on the, it looks like, purposeful destruction of our economy.
But then in the real world where nature's taking over once every 400 years, we're coming into this availability crisis versus a price crisis.
Yeah.
So, yeah, where does that leave our world from moving forward into 2023?
Yeah.
Well, yeah, let's talk about Southern Hemisphere versus Northern Hemisphere first, too, because, you know, the Southern Hemisphere, as people know, is in the springtime right now, about to go into their summer.
And so a lot of crop production is supposed to be happening there.
And then next year, you know, the Northern Hemisphere spring that we know, you know, March, April, and so on, during that production, there's going to be a lack of fertilizer for the Northern Hemisphere.
But tell us about what's happening in the Southern Hemisphere right now.
Well, I'll take everybody back to January of 2022, and we saw the eruption in Tonga.
It made the news for a few days, and then it just totally disappeared.
You haven't heard about it.
But that eruption was twice the size of the Pinatubo eruption.
Equivalent with something around the Tambora eruption in 1815 that ushered in A Year Without a Summer in 1816.
So knowing that it was twice the height of Pinatubo, and Pinatubo out of the Philippines in 1991 lowered the Earth's temperature 7 tenths of a degree Celsius.
So I'm looking at this saying, well, the opposite was happening in 1816.
We in the Northern Hemisphere were going into our planting season, and the Southern Hemisphere was in the winter.
But this time, as we're looking at it, the eruption was in the Southern Hemisphere, and they're going into their planting season.
Season this year and the temperatures are staggeringly below normal and it is absolutely going to dent into any type of agricultural productivity and we're already seeing that there's delayed planting and they're gonna have to switch to short season seed and they there's just not enough of it right now so the realization is starting to hit the farmers down there And the traders in the Northern Hemisphere,
they have that, well, let's look and see, because we just had record pricing and unavailability and all these things happening across the globe.
But that whole, oh, let's wait and look and see what happens in the Southern Hemisphere, well, it's not going to be very good news for those who do trade ag.
It's going to get really expensive, not available, and it's going to probably move to a cash bid versus anything that's on the markets that we see there.
It's going to move over to cash, not actually markets as we understand them.
There's going to be a disconnect here very shortly.
I want to cover temperatures here just to provide some context to our listeners.
So you said the Tamburo eruption was, what, seven-tenths of a degree Celsius alteration at the time, or at least that's what was measured back then.
Is that correct?
That was at least one and a half degrees Celsius.
Now, Pinatubo in 1991 was seven-tenths of a degree.
So we're talking two different eruptions in two different centuries.
All right.
And the Tambora eruption, that was in a time when there really wasn't good temperature measurement because that was, what, 18...
What year was it?
1815, the eruption, and then subsequently started to see the effects of that in 1816, 1817, and 1818 with runaway crop pricing.
Right.
Got it.
Okay.
So, yeah.
So temperature tracking wasn't very good at the time.
And that's why I remember reading that in the Northern Hemisphere, people were baffled that their crops were failing.
They had no idea why, because nobody knew that this thing had erupted in the Southern Hemisphere and how huge it was.
But you're saying that Tonga, that that eruption, has ejected some similar amount of particulate matter into the stratosphere?
And water vapor also.
When you look at Tambora, that was strictly ash and strictly sulfur dioxide.
And the other particulates, obviously, in the ash column.
Water vapor is the number one driver of global temperatures.
Right.
So we start to see this, and the ultimate height that it went up to was 52 miles.
It went up to 87 kilometers into the atmosphere, which is well more than double what Pinatubo had done.
So in other words, this water vapor in the atmosphere is reflecting sunlight, obviously, which is not reaching the ground.
So temperatures aren't as high on the ground.
I know this sounds really basic, but I'm just going over it.
And in other words, then the crop seasons are much shorter, even if it's only 2 degrees Celsius, right?
Absolutely.
And you could look at it for every 1 degree Celsius, then you would have to move your grow zone some 300 miles away.
North toward the equator, if it was in the southern hemisphere, or in Canada, for example, if it drops one degree Celsius, they'll have to move their grow zone closer to the American border.
So whatever way you look at it, one degree Celsius drop is going to make you move 300 miles, excuse me.
Now, of course, the climate people claim that global warming is the big threat, that somehow that's going to destroy all of us.
But what you're presenting here is that global cooling is actually going to starve us because of the crop losses.
And I think it's critical for people to recognize that that's the issue we're facing.
And you've got globalists like Bill Gates that want to run the stratospheric aerosol injections to put more pollution into the stratosphere to block more sunlight on top of this.
Yeah, and if you do look back at these larger eruptions, it's usually a short duration period of effect, about two years or so, and then that ash does start to come out of the atmosphere, and then there's some stabilization in crops again about three years after the event.
Now, here's something that I will admit that they do not have good temperature data for the early 1800s going through these several events of volcanic eruptions, but what they do have are absolutely stellar records of what Food costs were at that time in terms of bushels of wheat, or was it butter, or was it corn, whatever it was.
There's a huge amount of data on wheat flour and different types of things that we consume today that were priced back then, especially in British pounds, and everybody was super meticulous about pricing at that point.
So if you're going to do some of the research and see how this is an in-and-out three-year Priced spike and then it starts to stabilize again.
Now there was an unknown eruption in 1810.
So when you look at this pricing data in the early part of the 1800s, you'll see two subsequent spikes of food pricing up and then the ash comes out of the air.
Food stabilization, people can grow more.
Obviously, the farmers are able to get a better yield because you're not having as much blocking in the sunlight.
But you'll see that up and down.
It's a good three-year from start to finish until food prices start to fall again.
But there is that spike.
Wow.
So then the thing is that right now, in addition to this phenomenon that you're referring to, We also then have a global fertilizer shortage caused by the economic sanctions against Russia.
So now we have this combination, and actually there are more factors even than that, right?
For example, diesel shortages, diesel scarcity affecting agriculture and transportation.
The southeast of the United States is about to run out of diesel fuel right now.
One distributor just declared like a level four red alert or something like that, that they almost have no diesel.
So what do you think, David, are all the factors that are coalescing right now into this global food crisis?
I think it's something that we haven't seen in several centuries at best.
All these things that are coming together, they are dovetailing.
And one thing to keep in mind, whoever is talking about electrical demand in Europe, they have not even begun their peak season for demand for electric yet.
That won't occur right until December 1st, and that'll run through generally the end of February.
So anything that we're seeing now, Mike and I are talking about with these shortages, The factory closures, the chemical plants that have shuttered, everything that we need for base inputs to create fertilizers, that has not even begun to run its course in terms of shortages yet because the electrical demand will start to hit peak when it gets cold, December through February.
And that's really when we're going to start to see a lot of things begin to lock up.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, we're seeing electricity prices at 1000% higher across some areas of Western Europe.
Of course, fertilizer production has already been substantially shut down, something like 70 to 80 percent.
And their whole industry is shutting down.
So the thing is, you know, you know this, David, that a lot of the northern hemisphere countries, they get their food from the southern hemisphere.
So any shortfall in crops in, let's say, France would normally be made up by buying crops from, you know, either the Middle Eastern countries or South American countries in some cases.
But now it sounds like that's not going to be an option.
It will be an option, but a very, very, very expensive one.
Oh, there you go.
Right.
If available, if available.
Now, you have to delve into the southern hemisphere and look at the exports outbound.
China's trying to take a majority share of that.
True.
So if they are cut, then where else do they go to look for their foodstuffs?
They're going to be right back here, America, knocking on the door.
Or does that leave our exports?
Well, they're all stuck along the Mississippi River under tarp on the sides of the banks there, or still in the barges that are being shuffled around and locked up.
Now, I just presented at a dairy conference here last week in Nashville.
And the way they were talking that this superglue of the supply chain may alleviate itself in April of next year.
So if they're coming, yeah, if they don't have the food coming out of China and all these other export nations that are looking to the southern hemisphere as the predominant supplier instead of America or somebody else, they're not going to be able to get their supplies from the southern part of the world.
They're going to come knocking anywhere they can to get their needs filled.
Right.
And I'm glad you brought up the barge issue because, you know, the engineered drought has left the Mississippi River at some crazy historic low level.
I don't know when was the last time the water was that low, but barges are getting stuck.
I mean, just log jammed.
And so, through certain choke points, they can't move, and they're getting stuck, and they have to get pulled out of the mud, which is hard when it's, you know, how many thousands of tons of barges you have.
And in the meantime, they're all burning diesel, just fighting the current, because if you have a barge towboat And if you just turn it off, you just drift into the mud.
You have to keep running just to stand still, okay?
And people don't often think about that, but you've got to burn diesel just to not move.
So the burning diesel, one barge company was doing...
I'm sorry, one barge was doing $10,000 a day I should say the barge boat, the pushboat, tugboat, $10,000 a day in diesel fuel just to not drift downstream.
Multiply that by all of the tugboats and all the barges and you start to get crazy costs of moving goods up and down the rivers.
Your thoughts, David?
Well, it seems that they've reached a point where owners of these vessels are saying, all right, let's just take it over somewhere and try to unload it and get it off there because we're not going to move it for the rest of the year.
So they're doing these cost analysis now where they're actually trying to unload off those barges onto truck and then take it somewhere and literally dump it on the ground and cover it with tarp and hope that they can reload it sometime in the future and then get it outbound for exports.
Wow.
But this is the thing.
With the southern crops not going to be grown to the mass that they normally do, all these other countries are going to be looking to the United States to try to buy extra if they can.
Even if they can facilitate the payments, there's just no way to really deliver it.
And that's what not a lot of people are putting into context here.
So the race is on to get that barge allotment off the water and stored on land, at least for now.
And this is a whole conundrum in itself.
Where do you put that much grain in the middle of American harvest season all up and down the Mississippi?
We'll have a Himalaya-sized pile of beans and whatnot, corn, all the way up and down the river there, which is staggering.
And, you know, these wind events, like we just saw this derecho or not, it was a mini derecho, 60, 70 mile an hour winds blow through just yesterday across the Mississippi.
Yeah, I'm just thinking, you know, food, food everywhere, but not a bite to eat.
Because you have food in all the wrong places.
Basically, you're feeding field mice at this point, and deer and wild hogs, or whoever's finding those piles.
Like, wow, you know, if you're a wild animal, you're like, I've discovered this amazing pot of food gold here.
On the side of the river.
This is amazing.
And yet the people aren't going to be getting this food, and this problem isn't going to be solved anytime soon, and it only gets worse when you think about the fertilizer problem for North America as well, and the diesel transportation problem and so on.
And then, well, let me ask you about this.
The governments of the world, they try to solve this by printing money.
So they print money to help people buy food that's higher cost or to pay electricity bills that are higher cost.
They keep printing money in Europe.
But that doesn't create energy or food.
It's just fiat currency.
Your thoughts?
So where does that leave us then?
Because...
Without the ability to get the foods and process them, then there's other industries that will be affected as well.
You're looking at the cattle industry, you're looking at the dairy industry, you just mentioned hogs and any types of chicken or something, turkey, poultry, these types of things.
So there's so many knock-on effects and not even thinking about fish farming.
You know, these inputs into all these other protein sources that are going to get locked up at the same time as the grains are locked up.
Great point.
You know, then you start getting into these different levels of it and you're scratching the head saying, wow, we are really starting to cut off the food supply of the planet here.
The superglue of the supply chains is also going to set in motion a second set of superglue in the supply chain of the proteins that would normally be available across the planet, but they won't be.
You're talking way, excuse me, Mike, if I could say about the milk, you're talking about the whey and the proteins in there that are then outbound for infant formula.
But if we're experiencing the same bottlenecks, the amount of infant formula is shrinking by the day.
Now, where do people go to get that?
They literally don't.
I'm really glad you brought that up because most of the grain moved up and down the Mississippi River is used to feed livestock.
And just like you said, that livestock, they produce the milk, the cheese, the whey protein, ingredients for infant formula, and also meat.
And so what's a pound of hamburger going to cost?
When this runs its course, especially when you have countries like the Netherlands shutting down 600 ranches and meat production farms because they don't like the nitrogen that's coming out of animals through urine.
So you're having a global...
Food collapse, just like a slow-motion train wreck unfolding right before our eyes.
And yet, very few people are putting the pieces together like you are, David.
That's what's incredible about what you do.
I mean, you're really connecting the dots and seeing the big picture.
What's your kind of...
What's your take of where this is going to put us in a year?
Digital rationing cards is where it's going to take us.
Rationing on the foods and the hoops and hurdles that you will have to jump through.
I remember in the beginning of the year when we did a talk together and I was saying, you know, when the fertilizer things come in, by the end of the year, we'll start to see the first of the digital rationing cards being unveiled across the planet as prices get so expensive that people will take to the street.
There will be food riots.
Then how will governments respond to that and try to quell that?
Well, they'll say, we have some stockpiles of food we're going to release.
Countries do have emergency stockpiles of food, just like strategic oil reserves or strategic petroleum reserves.
We have cheese, a huge cheese stockpile here in America.
That's one example.
But limited amounts means governments still want everybody to get it, but it's going to be tied to a digital rationing card, which then might be tied to some sort of universal basic income where money would have to be given to the citizenry so they would have enough money to even purchase the food.
And then we get into this whole thing.
Yeah, why can't they just let this nitrogen thing off for at least one year or so until we get the food supply solved first and then they can come back at the nitrogen thing.
But to take off 600 farms in the middle of a food crisis is just...
At that point there, it's kind of wake-up time that it's no longer about CO2 or nitrogen or this or that in the environment.
It's totally about human control, and we are the farmed species at that point.
Once you get that realization in, the life changes the way you look at the world around you.
That's a really profound thing that you just said there, that we are the farmed species.
We are the animals on the animal farm, you know, Orwell style.
And we are the herds that are trying to be culled by the globalists, and this is one of the ways they're doing it.
It's suicide to be shutting down farms in the middle of this, but there was a story that just came out that shows kind of what happens when reality meets the fairy tales.
Germany is tearing down a wind farm in order to build a coal mine.
Because they desperately need coal because it works.
Coal works, whereas the wind farm doesn't work all the time.
And you can't store the energy from a wind farm.
You have to use it immediately where coal, you can mine it and store it and burn it when you need it so you can adjust to electricity demand in the coal-fired power plants.
Well, wind doesn't work that way.
You can't just say, hey, wind, blow harder now.
People are using air conditioning or whatever.
So the reality check hasn't yet come for the food side of this, though, is what it sounds like.
Yeah, and since you brought up movement of windmills into coal, you know, one of the things that was spoken about at the conference there that I was at in Nashville was this renewable diesel.
So they're trying to switch the entire model of the way we do soybean in America to crush it here, keep the oil here, transition that into renewable diesel.
The problem is they need 30 million acres, additional land to do that.
So it seems that, it is my own opinion, that everything cattle is being demonized.
So then there'll be not a huge amount of need for corn land anymore if we remove the cattle and dairy industry, that they could switch that over to soy acres.
But the problem is they still are going to need those methyl esters.
And you could speak way better to this than I. But they still need corn so they can create the ethanol to do the methyl esters.
So I'm looking at two different waste products that would be our food that are now going to be re-diverted into the gas tanks of America.
But I thought, wait, we're moving over to an electric fleet.
So I really get, you know, you can see through the illusion like you just spoke about here.
Windmills to a...
A coal-fired power plant or coal mine here.
Well, now they're going to go from into the renewable diesel, but I thought it was an electric transition on the fleet.
So how is it that they still need the corn for the methyl esters to do this renewable diesel?
And I get confused in the whole double speak of it all.
Well, you're right.
And it's an insane idea to grow corn and burn it in combustion engines, even as ethanol.
That's just stupid.
But then what you're saying, if they're going to convert soybeans over to biodiesel and use all the land for that, then yeah, now here's a second major crop that we're just burning in fuel tanks.
Meanwhile, the people are going to be living on food rationing cards.
So it's like, well, there's not enough food for you humans.
But we'll use your food to power the economy because diesel powers everything, all the transportation and so on.
We've got to keep that going.
We've got to keep the economy going.
But you, the people, well, you're no longer necessary.
You can starve to death.
And with the rise of robotics and automation, that's even more so.
But These policies just seem suicidal to me.
I mean, when you were at the conference, was there still a strong green energy push and everything?
The awareness of the green energy push was there, but within the industry itself, they were trying to take some steps.
I sent you a message before about cattle genetics to reduce methane output in the animals, along with feed efficiency.
That's one of the steps that they're trying to include Knowing that the world is changing and it's going to be forced upon their industry.
So within that, to have some movement and say, you know, hey, we are absolutely doing something to help facilitate this.
But, you know, industry is industry.
Cattle are cattle.
And, you know, this is just a removal of food from our bellies under the guise of green.
But, yes, the awareness is there.
And how far can you really go with what we understand traditional farming to make it, quote, unquote, green?
More nitrogen so we can have greener and taller plants.
But it's really when you get that concept of green, it just doesn't exist in the farming the way we do it.
You know, to cattle genetics, they're going to reduce 5% methane emissions off of each cattle generation of approximately three years.
But, you know, you're talking decades, plural, before that's even a possibility.
And that's just one set of herds coming into this.
It's not a global phenomenon or a global program for every single dairy farm out there that's going to abide by this.
Right now, it's still in the testing and proof method to be able to bring it to commercialization.
But how long will that take, even though the results are given in?
That's going to take how long do you think it would take to roll something out?
No, but my concern is they're going to play, you know, God with the cows through this genetic engineering to try to target one thing, which is methane production.
But, you know, methane is part of the chemistry of a cow's digestion of grasses.
You know, I mean, it's a natural part of the chemistry.
And if you screw around with that, you're going to interfere with the cow's digestion somehow.
So I think they're going to end up creating franken cows that are sick, that with massive herd failures, just mass die-offs of herds.
And they'll ruin the genetics of cows through this process.
And they could just cripple the future of herds, especially those that are genetically modified.
I mean, that's what's going to go wrong.
Now, they weren't genetically modified like a GMO where you're in there twisting and adding bits into the DNA. This is just they're choosing the cows that have shown methane reduction.
They're not emitting as much, and they're using different kind of variables to measure this.
But they're not actually playing with the genetics of the cow.
They're actually choosing the cows that have these traits that they want, and then they're breeding those cows together.
That's why it takes multi-generations.
But even then...
Might they be choosing the cows that have the least efficient digestion?
So you're going to have failures in conversion of grasslands to cow meat.
You're actually, I mean, efficient digestion.
Frankly, methane production is a sign of efficient digestion.
So if you're looking for low methane, then you're looking for cows that aren't very good at digesting food.
It's bonkers.
Well, that's where they're being pushed into a corner like this.
This is where the world with this green movement has gone, is to pushing this.
What we're talking about with the cows and the methane, that's what's being pushed and they're responding to it, knowing that the change is here and it's coming.
So to face it head on, instead of being forced later on to do something that might even be worse than what we're talking about right now.
But this is the insanity of the world we live in.
Where natural processes of just simple life organisms on the planet is no longer acceptable for life to be life.
And this is where, you know, we can go back into biblical verses and just go super deep.
But we're at that point now where life is being restructured and not allowed to live in natural harmony with the earth or even being a natural organism.
And at what point do they going to one day switch over to the human and say the same thing?
You're farting.
You're burping.
You're peeing.
Oh no, you're not allowed to do that anymore.
At what point do they swing everything that we've seen so far and then all of a sudden it's a requirement for a human and then you start to have terrible digestion and you know once the gut, again Mike, you could probably speak millions of miles far more than I on this one, but just in the basics, when your gut health is gone, your body health follows quickly.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
But you make a really important point that we are going to be targeted next.
Because, you know, if you urinate, you're producing nitrogen.
Well, I should say really recycling atmospheric nitrogen or food nitrogen.
You're not creating it.
You're just moving it around.
But they can target that, just like they're doing with cattle in the Netherlands and other countries in Europe right now.
They don't like any of the elements.
They're at war with carbon.
They're at war with nitrogen.
And probably soon they'll be at war with oxygen, I guess.
They're definitely at war with the sun.
We see that with the global dimming efforts and the stratospheric aerosol injection and so on.
And they claim it's global warming in order to justify dimming the sun.
As you know, David, all the inputs of life, the carbon dioxide, there's nitrogen, there's sunlight, there's water, all of these are being manipulated and restricted.
It's really like a death spell has been cast upon the planet by these globalists.
They're just trying to figure out the most efficient way to kill billions of people, it seems.
And milk the wealth and transfer wealth on the way down.
But I would consider that a non-human intelligence or a non-human entity because you just referenced how many things are in the non-natural realms that are being forced upon a natural species, a natural planet that exists in our solar system as a unified body of ebb and flow.
High solar activity, low solar activity, summer, winter.
You know, these are all just cycles of humanity and cycles of time and centuries and millennia that are now being somehow manipulated and terraformed or whatever types of words you want to put on top of this, but...
They've even taken us at war now with our pets, where I did a video yesterday where they're talking about the carbon paw print and how much your dogs are responsible for, again, emissions and global warming and all these things because they eat meat.
And now they're trying to get you to start feeding your pets insect proteins instead of feeding traditional pet food.
No, I'm not kidding you.
That was off CNN just yesterday, two days ago.
It's insane.
Here, Fido, eat a bunch of grub worms and crickets.
And your dog is going to go, what?
What?
You guard your own house.
You're going to give me that kind of food.
Yeah, exactly.
And, of course, they're feeding this to schoolchildren in some countries.
I think they're doing an experiment in Europe with that.
But this is totally insane because, okay, suppose they convert the whole world over to people and pets now eating crickets and grub worms and, I don't know, cockroaches or whatever.
You can have not chicken wings but spicy roach wings by the bucket.
With a coupon at KFC. I think it would be called Kentucky Fried Crickets is what that will stand for soon.
Can you imagine?
But at that point, even, won't they say, well, now we've run out of crickets.
It's like, we got you to eat this stuff, but there's not enough for you.
It's all genocide.
Again, it comes down to something non-human that seems to be pushing the buttons on this one.
That border lies on the woo-woo, but you go through a lot of religions pointing to this time, that this battle of dark and light, and whatever form that darkness is, it's a non-human entity, and AI would fit the bill, or I don't know exactly what that would...
Entail as that darkness because there's so many forms of it that seem to be all manifesting right now to control humanity and take us out of that natural connection, that natural flow.
Putting people in a terrified state of no jobs, no food, crashing economy, famine, and these things.
I mean, the vibration that humanity is putting off, if you believe in frequency and vibration, like what the human race is emanating now in terms of just a regular vibratory pattern.
If some negative entity loves to feed on that, well, it's a huge feeding trough right now.
So, you know, if you wanted to stay in the realms of food, I thought I would throw that wild idea out there for a moment because it does seem we're in this time.
Well, maybe we can circle back to that issue.
I know, I was just going a little woo there because it popped in my mind.
Believe me, I talk about this with other guests and there are different theories of, you know, like a terrestrial AI, a non-terrestrial AI, you know, satanic influence from just, you know, demonic realms and so on.
But that's a deeper topic.
Let me ask you about something more practical first, which is about payments.
And you mentioned this in your notes that you shared with me, that as currencies begin to fail, the question is going to arise, how do importers pay for food that has to cross borders and get shipped around the world?
Yeah, that was one of the things I brought up at the, you know, because when I was speaking there, the person who was hosting me said, you know, you give a couple solutions at the end of it.
You're framing it really well with the Tonga eruption and lost crops.
Okay, well, how does that really translate for these guys out here that are buying their corn or they're trading their cattle?
I mean, how does that balance out for, you know, the guys, the rest of the guys and girls in the room here?
Well, I was saying, you know, think about in the future, have a plan ready.
It may not be happening at this second, but at least get it on your burner.
Put it at least onto the front burner and get it boiling a little bit here.
Start warming it up because you're going to have to think about that issue because fiat currencies, if they're not accepted any longer and your bank's not working with the traditional bank it did in Argentina or in Peru or Bolivia or Brazil or wherever it is, then how do you pay for the same things or how does your customer buy those same then how do you pay for the same things or how does your customer buy those same things, That's a huge export market.
That's an oversee buyer coming in to purchase those.
So if there's no longer an agreement on the fiat and the worth of something, that asset, that one equals one, we can agree on anything.
We're business.
I'm buying something from you, Mike.
I'll trade you this.
And as long as we both agree that that is acceptable for both parties, great.
The transaction can be done.
It doesn't even have to be done in money or fiat.
It can be done in anything else we want.
So that was my point there that you need to start thinking of what are the mechanisms that you could trade outside the traditional finance system if the fiat currencies start to collapse and banks lock up and letters of credit aren't honored.
And what we consider just the flow through the SWIFT system doesn't flow any longer because those fiats are no longer valid or valued as something acceptable.
So to even put that on the plate out there, there was a lot of like, why would I work with another repository for gold or silver in a different country?
And this whole smart contract thing is way above my head and I don't get this cryptocurrency thing.
And then I said, okay, well, those are my options.
Then tell me something that you think you could trade with a different person in a different country.
And they're like, we could trade the grains itself.
We could trade the cattle itself.
That protein could be swapped over for another ag product.
And then, you know, you got to try to get that conversation started of how to think out of the box.
If what we understand, modern finance and banking doesn't function like it does today, then what happens?
Well, right.
And of course, gold and silver might be one of the solutions here.
But it seems to me this is a self-reinforcing feedback loop problem where the very governments whose currencies are about to fail, they are going to print more money in order for their citizens to be able to afford to buy the food and fuel in they are going to print more money in order for their citizens to be able So they're going to make, in fact, the failure of their own domestic currencies more accelerated in the process.
Yeah, and then the speaking, the understanding on their side was the U.S. dollar is getting so strong that anybody who's going to borrow in dollars is now at this incredible inflation risk.
So they're already starting to see foreign buyers on the other side that were going to use U.S. dollar swaps to pay dollars up here for their products already are running into difficulty now.
Trying to get those due to inflation and the real strong U.S. dollar.
It's good for us to buy things, but really outside in the rest of the world looking in to purchase something from America, it is getting truly to the point of being unaffordable.
And this is just another thing where we come into what you spoke of, whether it be money printing in a different country or the solidification of just how intense this dollar is becoming across the planet where it's already creating, they can see the ripples already coming at them based just on this alone for the trade year coming up.
Well, yeah, I suppose it's rapidly approaching a point of global disgust with the dollar, where I think a lot of countries must be asking, why do I need to buy these dollars?
Why should I ship goods to the U.S. when they're just printing more money, and yet somehow that money is becoming more expensive now, even though it should be becoming less valuable, which will happen eventually, but right now it's more expensive.
So it's like the U.S. is making it unaffordable for people everywhere else in the world to buy food and energy.
Yeah, and then you look on the farmer's side of things here.
They were getting such huge prices for the last two years, specifically.
Now, now they're cash flush.
They have so much cash, they're not even taking any kind of bank assistance.
They just pay everything in cash.
So looking at the trends here, liquid milk down, of course, in pricing.
Cheese price is going to be going up and up.
Butter is going to be going up and up.
And then milk powder is going to be screaming up the most in the sector.
But then how does that...
I'm talking about the United States.
So then look at an outside buyer from here, already with all these expensive dollars, and then everything is going to run away in our own country with pricing.
Then what happens?
I mean, there's literally places in the world that won't be able to afford these base inputs to keep their children healthy.
And this is where it starts to disconnect for me here.
We're at the point now where kids are not going to eat or get their protein powders or get the milk formulas and this sort of stuff just because it's becoming too expensive.
And I look at that and I say, there's no way to really print it out because the more they print, it's just, yeah, you're right.
It's in this doom loop here.
But with all these farmers with so much cash...
This also creates a problem where they need to spend that cash to get their tax breaks.
So now they're out there buying up anything and everything they possibly can because they need that tax break.
So now you've got these incredible flush farmers out there just scooping up anything in the markets because they're going to get banged on taxes.
If they don't buy it, they're going to pay it.
So they're like, we'll take this, this, this, and this because I don't want to pay Uncle Sam.
I can write all that off and get all that stuff.
And have the same exact tax liability or I can buy nothing and then everything that I could have got as a physical product that I bought with those millions of dollars, I'm going to have to pay a million dollar tax bill and just write a check for free, give it away.
So this is the kind of where they're stuck here in America also, where they need to go on this massive buying spree so they don't have to pay taxes because they got so flush from the increased crop pricing.
Everything doubled in the last years.
So they're looking at massive increases in their profits, gains.
Well, and then they need to find ways to squirrel that away because, you know, they're going to be bad years ahead and farming is a feast or famine kind of business venture.
You can be wealthy one year and bankrupt the next year just based on simple changes in, well, weather for one thing, but market conditions as well.
So what about consumers in all of this?
It seems like we've seen this.
People are shifting from being able to purchase more high-dollar food items to just more basic items.
Do you think that trend is going to continue, and what's that going to look like in 2023?
Yeah, anybody who was involved in more high-end cheese production and these types of specialty, what would we consider dairy products?
That was focus in the middle bullseye right there.
Yeah, these consumers, it looks like necessity essentials.
So you have to ask yourself, if you're listening today, what are your necessity essentials?
Like your core items that you can't do without.
And if you start to lose your job or you don't have as much money, are you going to continue to spend on the periphery on the outside?
No way.
You're going to circle the wagons and bring it in.
I'm only buying what I need as a necessity.
So then you have to start looking at what are those necessities that families are going to start spending on.
And they're really reeling it back right now.
Families, businesses are kind of realigning everything.
What they purchase, what their budgets are, how much they can purchase.
Because these prices are hitting everybody across all genres.
It's not just the poor are being hit.
Now middle class, rich, they're all being hit in different ways, shapes, and forms.
So everybody's budgets and the way they look at how they spend money, whatever shape it's taken, everybody's consolidating into, I'm just going to buy what I need to survive.
All these extras that we used to have, It's going to be a fire sale out there in the world for a lot of people where you can pick stuff up real cheap if you're cash positioned.
But that's somebody else's loss that they need to ditch something at any price so they can have money to continue to put food on the table.
And then, you know, you start to get into these repeats in history and, you know, none of it ends well, let's say that.
Yeah, I was going to go there next.
When you start to have food scarcity, you get uprisings.
You get revolutions, you know, throughout history.
What do they say?
Nine meals away from anarchy.
So we're on a very thin edge right now, just a thin veneer of civil society.
And we were already starting to see protests across Europe, by the way, recently.
People protesting the cost of living, which...
It has a lot to do with food and with energy at the same time.
Gasoline shortages in France and so on.
What do you think this is going to look like, David?
Even in the United States, are we going to see food riots in 2023?
Or are people going to obediently go along with the rationing?
What if it's a biometric system?
What if you have an ESG score associated with your food allowance?
Like, if you criticize the government, you don't get to eat.
You know, things like that.
Where do you think this is going?
Well, you look at how many governments were so patting themselves on the back and how proud that, you know, they could have countries and citizens adopt measures that were unthinkable so easily.
The rollout of COVID, they were laughing going, I couldn't believe how easy that was.
We could make them do anything from now because that was so easy to unveil COVID measures and they locked themselves down.
Oh, they'll do anything we want.
That's the mentality of the governments that are now moving forward for control of the food and your access to it.
If it was pre-COVID, that would have been a Wild West, who knows what would happen.
But after this COVID and how everybody, not myself, but how so many just so easily complied, and I know you not either, but so many just bent in and just did every single word that was required or asked of them through the news.
And it was really that easy.
So now when the governments are looking out, it's saying, all right, well, how do we implement this cash digital universal basic income thing?
Well, it's going to be tied to the digital rationing card.
But, you know, how easy would it be to push people into that?
You know, they're going to do a 2.0, it looks like.
And America would be one of the last countries where we will see food riots.
And it depends if the EBT system continues to stay up and functioning or not, because that ease to access to food, if that breaks down, there will be riots in the first two days.
But in terms of just a general thing where it gets too expensive, where it's not affordable, it's unavailable, America will be the last place hit.
One of the last places hit.
There'll be places on fire burning completely to the ground before it comes to America.
But it is going to hit in 2023 in some way, shape, form, fashion.
So get ready for it.
And you should all be totally ready by now.
If you haven't gotten the messaging after the COVID and you're watching all these things collapse and you got the war going on over there and you're still not prepared, I'm sorry.
I don't know the chances of you making it through.
I mean, there's still some time to get some preps done and get some, but not nearly to the level you could have because the supply chains have locked up and things are not available any longer.
Yeah, exactly.
And that brings up an important distinction between the obedience during COVID versus the obedience during rationing.
Well, during COVID, people were still able to get food.
In fact, they were given money that they could use, stimulus money, to go out and buy food.
And a lot of people did that.
The restaurant business was huge during all the bailout money time.
But when scarcity really kicks in, It almost doesn't matter how much stimulus money you have.
If you can't buy enough to feed your family and then you feel the hunger, you know, that feeling of hunger and the fear that goes along, the fear of starvation, that motivates people to take action that they would not have taken under the COVID lockdowns.
You know, it's one thing to be locked down at home, you know, watching Netflix and eating free food.
People can handle that.
But to be told you can't get enough food to eat, you know, to keep yourself from going hungry, that's different.
And if we get to that point where they just can't provide the food, just not in the pipeline, then I think we have a revolution on our hands.
That's my take.
Yeah, it's all about framing it as well.
Because just take the hurricane, for example, in Florida.
People know that there was help coming.
So even if you were getting hungry and you burned through your supplies, you know in your mind that eventually it might be an hour from now, 10 hours from now, a day from now, two days, whatever.
Help will be there for sure.
But what you're talking about and what I'm envisioning and seeing also is it comes to that point where that realization of that help won't come.
You will either grow it yourself or you're going to be reliant and you don't know when those next trucks are coming, if at all.
And the story starts circulating like the trucks haven't come for the third week now.
This is when it's going to start to really unwind in the mind and the control behavior of people.
They're going to not obey the rule of law in any way, shape, or form and At that point, that's where you're really going to need your community to help to protect because you can't stay up 24 hours a day.
You can't always be on guard.
You're going to be out cooking, using the bathroom.
You're going to be doing some farm tasks or whatever.
I mean, you got four areas, four borders on your property.
People can come in in any direction, north, south, east, or west.
And if you're on the other side of your 20 acres, you're not going to see people come in.
You need a group of people.
Mike, you've already wired that out to the Uber there.
For me, I'm speaking to the choir on that.
But for anybody who doesn't get it yet, it's going to take a group of people and the reliability of the deliveries is the thing that's not going to be there.
So just chase down a few chapters through history and how long it took a decade plus for it to smooth itself out after these food incidents or food events.
It takes about a decade.
So that's really hard to swallow.
You mean we're going to go through these food shortages, the unavailability, and it's going to take a full 10 years before it might get back to normal?
That's difficult to swallow for people because that's not next year or the next next year.
We're talking like eight years or something further out into the future.
People lose hope at that point, and then it becomes a very different world.
It's kind of like, I think, the Prime Minister of Belgium, was it, who said that the Europeans will only have to endure cold winters with energy scarcity for five to ten years.
And it was like, oh, really?
That's all?
Just five to ten cold, freezing winters without heat?
Okay.
Yeah.
But we've seen this also in places like Venezuela where the food delivery trucks get hijacked on the highways by the gangs that rise up and they essentially become food distribution gangs.
Because, you know, anytime the government comes in and says, oh, okay, we're going to ration something, we're going to control the prices and control the distribution, immediately there becomes an alternative market.
And often there's a lot of violent criminality that's associated with that alternative market.
Just look at marijuana, the drug lords versus the state-sanctioned cannabis.
But if you put food in the category of state-controlled cannabis, You're going to have carjackings, truckjackings, food gangs, food raids.
You're going to have flash mob lootings, cleaning out grocery stores.
I mean, it's going to be food hell, basically.
Yeah, and I don't know why they would go to price controls because it just hasn't ever worked.
I mean...
Because maybe it's never happened in this and our couple generations here in America.
So maybe, oh, price controls might work.
It'll give a glimmer of hope because we haven't lived through that in three generations.
But somebody else in Venezuela or Zimbabwe or whatever would just scoff at that and second number one after they would announce it.
But here it hasn't been used.
That trump card hasn't been used yet, so perhaps it will be.
But just anybody who has studied history, even in only the last hundred years, would understand that price controls never ever worked.
So to try to cap pricing, they wanted to do that in Europe.
They wanted to cap pricing on all manufacturing just two months ago because of the increasing electricity prices.
10x, 15x increasing prices.
Oh no, you can't charge that much for your copper.
You can't charge that much for your steel.
Well, then I'm not going to sell it.
And then they said, well, they understood that, you know, manufacturers didn't.
Well, they were just going to shut down and not sell it.
And then they're like, well, if you have anything in your warehouse, we can come and take that now.
So it was becoming quite the debacle here.
And it still is in Europe where they want to price cap manufacturing.
And if you're not going to produce, they want to take your stores of raw product, whatever that might be, raw commodities, and And then move it to a factory or facility that will produce it at a cap price.
Where literally, they're going to come in and raid your warehouse, take everything out of it because you won't produce, then take it over somewhere else and give it to a company that would produce.
And again, it'll be the same Fortune 500 companies that are left producing.
Nobody else will at a loss.
I mean, this is the Venezuelization of the food economy.
On the whole planet.
Yeah, I get that.
The entire planet.
And also, let's think about this.
I'm really glad you pointed that out, but even at the home level, the personal level, you can have community-based authorities who are working for the governor or working for whoever that come in and say, well, you're not allowed to have more than, let's say, three days' supply of food.
So anything beyond three days, you have to give it to us so that we can distribute it to the hungry.
Okay.
Otherwise, you'll be a hoarder, and you'll be arrested, and your food will be confiscated.
And then they'll start handing out rewards to neighbors who turn in other people, because that's happened throughout history as well.
So all of that is coming, it seems.
It does, and then that would make me a very astute student of Cashing 101.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I would start cashing my goods across properties, not even mine.
Hey, if I could use my neighbor's property.
And then you're really going to start to have hiding that.
And you've got to start to learn how to cash whatever you have that you think is a necessity that you will need later.
You're going to have to cash it and bury it somewhere, hide it away so nobody can find it.
And I know you've done a couple episodes on that as well.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a critical skill and not just hiding things in your house, but actually having land and being able to bury things across a piece of land or even other locations, you know, other people's pieces of land, you know, bug out location, for example.
And there's an art to that.
You're right, I've discussed it before.
So people need to get prepared.
We're going to wrap this up because we're coming up on an hour, but what are your final thoughts or a summary of what we've covered here today, David?
Just to understand that the food won't be grown in the Southern Hemisphere at the levels that it usually is.
And it's really going to have a knock-on effect of all these countries that would normally go to places like Brazil and Argentina and Australia and South Africa to get the foods.
Now, once they can't get it, they're going to be going elsewhere in the world looking for it.
But there's always somebody that will have more money to pay for it.
So you're going to watch prices start to just escalate up and up and up.
And then the markets, as we understand, these futures markets aren't going to function properly because they might have a price of, say, $5 or $6 for a bushel of corn.
But in reality, it might fetch $12 or $15 on a cash market.
And then everything that we start to understand as finance is going to come unwound.
Now, you need to be prepared for that in terms of banks might fail, countries' fiat monies might fail, and then where does that leave you?
Well, you're going to have to start growing some food and buying some food now that you think you could store for a longer period of time.
Mike, you had that great nine-part series on many, many hours and hours and hours of detailed information on how you can prepare yourselves for all these changes that we're seeing.
Information is going to be your number one ally in this to understand past cycles of how it's happened and different chapters of history, how people live through this.
How they prepare themselves and how you can get ready right at this second for these changes.
Like once the realization is here, it's going to take about another six weeks.
So before we even finish into Christmas, they're going to understand what we're talking about today is going to be front page news about the losses in the southern hemisphere, the delayed implanting, not enough short season seeds.
That's another thing.
Not enough potash to really hit those plants to make them grow faster.
And the realization is going to start to spin that, whoa, we're not going to have enough food for the planet.
Now, once that starts to come out, your time to get ready is going to be very, very, very, very limited.
Because at that point, the entire planet has woken up and everybody is running at the same time to get ready.
Now, if you're running with that crowd, you missed it.
You're totally done.
You're not going to be able to get ready.
So...
Doing something immediately after you listen to this broadcast would be the best form of action you can take.
And then have the conversations with your friends.
I know it's completely uncomfortable for so many family members.
They don't want to deal with it.
They want to put their heads in the sand.
You're going to have to deal with that, too, and be like, you know what?
Sister, brother, mother, father, whoever doesn't want to listen, you're going to have to start listening.
And those conversations are going to be difficult for a lot of families, but they need to happen.
Yeah.
Do you want to eat?
Then listen up.
Come with me if you want to eat in the future, that kind of thing.
Now, it's always extraordinary talking with you because you've got your finger on the pulse of everything happening with global agriculture, you know, crops and all of this.
I just want to give out your channel again.
It's called Adapt 2030.
I see your interviews on Brighttown.com and also on YouTube.
You've got your show on Brighttown.tv.
Again, that's 2 to 3 p.m. Eastern every other Friday.
I think you alternate with Alan Keyes there, right?
That's right.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then you're going to be joining me on some other shows as well.
But I just want to mention to our audience, we're recording this the last week of October 2022.
And folks, everything that David is talking about is going to happen.
It's clockwork.
It's already set.
So, you know, take action now.
Learn how to grow food.
Learn how to sprout.
Learn how to save seeds.
Learn how to make compost.
You know, stockpile a little bit of extra food.
Maybe not even a little.
Maybe more than that.
But ultimately, you've got to produce food locally.
That's the only way to make it through this long term.
So, David, I want to thank you for joining me.
It's been a pleasure.
Yeah, thank you, Mike.
Absolutely.
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