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Oct. 24, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Trevor Loudon exposes Marxist, communist ties of US Senators, Governors and members of Congress
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Welcome, folks.
This is Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.com, the platform where we can speak freely about issues that matter.
And we're joined by just an extraordinary guest today.
You've probably heard his name.
You've probably seen his film called Enemies Within.
That was a few years ago.
His name is Trevor Loudon.
His website is trevorloudon.com.
And he's also got...
A book about the security risks of senators.
Part one is out.
Part two is coming out this week.
And Trevor Loudon is an expert on exposing the Marxist and communist backgrounds of church leaders, members of the Senate, members of Congress and other so-called leaders who are driving us into the collapse of the United States as we know it.
Mr.
Trevor Loudon, it's an honor to have you on.
I'm a fan of your work.
Thank you for joining us.
Well, likewise, Mike.
It's an honor to be on with you, too.
I know the great work you've been doing.
Well, we're all doing our part, but you are doing more parts than most, I think.
Now, let's just start with the big bombshell here.
We're about to go into the midterm elections.
It seems to be leaning strongly GOP, according to many polls.
But even if there are, well, you've identified 30 U.S. senators with Marxist and communist connections, and some of those are going to remain no matter what happens, it seems.
Tell us about those senators and your security risk senators' books.
Well, that's right.
So U.S. senators negotiate treaties.
U.S. senators, you know, they gave us a nuclear deal with Iran, for instance.
They negotiate with the United Nations and international bodies.
They negotiate with foreign countries.
Now, do you not think foreign agents would be very, very interested in co-opting U.S. senators?
Yes, they will.
Well, you imagine if you were Xi Jinping.
You want to take America down.
That's your goal.
But do you want to get into a multi-billion dollar trade war, which is going to turn your own people against you?
Do you want to get into a multi-trillion dollar shooting war before you are fully ready?
Or would you rather spend a couple of billion dollars buying up US senators?
Right.
What would you do?
Well, and it's amazing how cheaply these senators are bought.
That's what's shocking to me.
They'll sell out for almost nothing.
Yeah, a trip up the Yangtze River, a share tip, you know, some tuition for their kids, whatever.
You know, these people can be brought pretty cheaply.
Some of them are brought, you know, are ideologically sympathetic to the Chinese.
I would say Dianne Feinstein would be an example of that.
Judy Chu in the Congress is certainly an example of that.
But many of them are just bought in by business deals.
You know, the old Soviet communists, they had to use ideology to recruit people because they didn't have a lot of money.
Well, the Chinese can use ideology to recruit the left and money to recruit the left and the right, they use money.
Yes.
But either way, they have you.
And, you know, look, Radcliffe, Trump's intelligence advisor, said a year or two ago, he said that The Chinese Communist Party had compromised so many American Congress members, they could now determine which legislation passes the Congress and which doesn't.
That should horrify every American, no matter what political stripe you are.
Well, you already mentioned Senator Feinstein.
I think our listeners are familiar with the fact that Feinstein's office had, I believe, turned over identities of mainland Chinese dissidents who were going to the senator's office to seek help.
She would turn over copies of their passports to the CCP to have their family members kidnapped and threatened and coerced and things like that.
Is that something that you are aware of happening as well?
I was not aware of that had I been aware that I would have included it.
Look, Feinstein, first she worked with the pro-Soviet communists, then she worked with the Chinese.
She'd been working with the communists of one stripe or another since the 1950s, since she was at Stanford University.
But we all know that she had a Chinese spy on her payroll.
But when he was exposed, she said, well, he was my driver.
He was her office manager.
He was getting Defense Department documents across his desk.
He worked closely with Christine Fong, who was the spy that seduced Eric Swalwell, who's serving on the House Intelligence Committee.
But Dianne Feinstein's greatest crime, I believe, was getting China into the World Trade Organization.
That turned China from a third-rate power into a first-rate power.
She set that up.
She's had deep relations with the Chinese Communist Party for decades.
She is sympathetic to communism, and she's happy to get money as well.
So she is one of the top dangers in the U.S. Senate.
Absolutely.
I'm just trying to remember, was that in the early 1990s when that WTO decision was made?
Yeah, about 97, I think it was, 97, 99.
And she was warned by the FBI just before that, that the Chinese were targeting her.
Yes, okay.
I think that was just one of the warnings they give.
It really means to say, we know what you're doing, but we'll pretend we don't, but you better watch out because they're coming after you.
Wow.
Alright, what other senators, or let's say those running for the Senate, do you believe are also compromised or influenced, indoctrinated, or just paid off?
Well, if you look at Raphael Warnock, for instance, in Georgia, now that's a critical seat.
Raphael Warnock is the mentor, is the protege of James Cone, the father of black liberation theology.
He's also served his time, learned at the Abyssinian Baptist Church in Georgia.
In New York, the pastor of that Calvin...
I just forgot his last name.
Calvin...
Calvin Butt was a hardcore Marxist.
He was inviting, you know, the night that Martin Luther King was killed, Calvin Butt was a young radical in Atlanta, Georgia.
He gragged out a whole bunch of Molotov cocktails.
He went out, tried to burn down a church, burned down several businesses and terrorized white people in their cars.
He became a pastor at Ebenezer Baptist in Harlem.
He mentored Warnock.
Warnock grew up with Marxists.
He came to Georgia.
He was working with Democratic Socialists of America.
He was working with Stacey Abrams Crowd.
Stacey Abrams is part of a Chinese voter registration linked network.
He was very actively involved in that with a former leader of ACORN. He was working with some of the old...
Georgian communists who came down from the north in the civil rights era and set up co-ops and that sort of thing in Georgia.
He has been involved with straight up Marxism his entire political career.
Anybody paying attention can see this is an evil guy.
But the thing is, these Marxists and communists, they play to the gullibility of the left and they pretend that they love America and they love liberty and they love freedoms and so on.
But it's all an act for them, isn't it?
Well, Barack Obama used to talk about the Constitution all the time, did he not?
Yes, indeed.
But just by the way, because they know our language.
You know, they get into the church, they know how Christians think, so they get into the churches and spread Marxism through there, like Warnock has done.
But just incidentally, the other Georgia senator, John Ossoff, the first thing he did when he got elected was to ask Biden to appoint a man called Daniel Blackmun.
To the head of the Environmental Protection Agency for the entire U.S. Southeast.
We're talking Georgia and Tennessee and South Carolina, North Carolina, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi.
Now, Daniel Blackman is a card-carrying Marxist, a member of Democratic Socialists of America.
So Ossoff gets this guy appointed as his first action.
This is the kind of thing these people are doing.
They're appointing their Marxist friends to all sorts of key positions.
And they're using that to undermine our economy, undermine our defenses, undermine our borders, and anything else that keeps America on an even keel.
Absolutely.
And would you say their goal is, what, to weaken America's economy, to split the culture, split the family, to make America vulnerable to, what, a takeover, an invasion, a collapse?
Where does this come together?
All of the past.
All of the above.
These people are working to some degree or another for enemies like China, like Iran, who want to eliminate this country from the face of the earth.
Not just weaken us, not just make us economically dependent, but to actually take this country down.
And then do these leaders, do they think that they're going to get a protected position if China takes over the United States?
Do they not realize?
I think they think, well, this is not going to happen in my lifetime, so I'll let my kids worry about this.
Or if it does, I'm a protected class.
I'll be okay.
Some of them really believe that America is evil and their job is to bring socialism to America.
They think they'll be the rulers of socialist America.
They don't realize that China will be the ruler of socialist America and will eliminate people like them.
But either way, you know.
I've read Soviet textbooks and they say this is a very difficult problem.
Because the duty of a foreign agent or a spy is to get people in an enemy country to do things that will bring about their own destruction.
That's their job.
And that's not an easy thing to do.
But greed, if you're short-sighted enough, if you're arrogant enough, you can be bought, you can be...
Your ego can be tickled, you can be compromised, and you will betray your own country.
I think we have thousands of people betraying this country right now.
Oh, clearly.
And Barack Obama was one of them, no doubt.
I'm the one who characterized Barack as a sleeper cell agent.
Yeah, yeah, he was.
Look, his whole life, from pre-birth...
From pre-birth to now, it's been surrounded by democratic socialists of America or pro-Soviet or pro-Chinese communists.
Every move he made, everything he's done...
Look, he made a movie for Netflix recently.
You know, he's showing how cool he is as a director.
And the actual people he employed to direct it, one of them was a long-time Marxist, a leader of democratic socialists of America.
So he could have employed anybody, but now he has to employ a Marxist, because those are his peeps.
Yeah, exactly.
Now, you mentioned the Soviets as well, and of course, I know you're familiar with Soviet defector Yuri Bezmianov, and he told us, I think that was back in the late 80s or so, he told us exactly how this was going to happen, happened, that the culture was going to be overrun, that the people were going to be demoral, excuse me, demoralized.
And the demoralization seems to also include reducing morality, not just morale as in courage, but reducing morals so that your society has no more morals and no moral basis from which to function.
That has been accomplished.
It's incredible.
Well, that's right.
So it's no surprise then that we have so many of our leaders who are on the take because if society is generally pretty corrupt, what do you think our leaders are going to be like when they have way more opportunity to sell us out than we do, who have access to some of the most important information in the world and some of the greatest influence in the world?
Do you not think some of these people are going to sell us out to Iran or China or Cuba or the local communists?
There are no background checks in Congress.
There's no security clearances in the Senate or the Congress.
What do you think is going to happen given those circumstances?
There's not even like a history IQ check.
They don't even have to be familiar with the Constitution at all to be a member of Congress, right?
Well, that's right.
They probably wouldn't like learning about it because then they might feel a little bit guilty when they're betraying it.
Right now, it's just blissful ignorance for them.
But, you know, as I repeat my claim, there's at least 30 U.S. senators and 100 Congress members who Including the heads of every single major committee in Congress and the US Senate who couldn't pass a background check to drive a school bus.
But there are no background checks.
And the FBI doesn't dare to touch them because do you think the FBI, or even if the FBI wasn't compromised, even if the FBI was doing its job, do you think they're going to go up against the Judiciary Committee that pays their salaries and say, look, Mr.
Nadler, the head of the Judiciary Committee, you're a Marxist.
We need to investigate you.
Is that all right?
We need to investigate at least 100 of your colleagues for working for the Chinese and the Iranians and the Cubans and the Communist Party.
Do you mind, Mr Nadler?
Is that all right?
What do you think is going to happen to their budget next year?
Yeah, exactly.
So the FBI doesn't dare touch these people, even if they wanted to.
The media covers for them, and there's no background checks or security clearances or loyalty oaths to catch them out.
So therefore, America's biggest problem right now is we are being sold out by foreign operatives who have compromised our leaders, who have bought our leaders, who have elected our leaders, who have blackmailed our leaders, who have compromised our leaders, We are being run right now, I believe, by Susan Rice and Barack Obama and Xi Jinping.
I think it's that bad right now.
Now, tell us what you know about Mark Kelly running for Senate in Arizona against, I believe, Blake Masters.
It's a very tight race right now.
Kerry Lake seems to be pulling strongly there, but people think Mark Kelly is just this astronaut, but there's much more to the story, isn't there?
Mark Kelly used to flog Chinese vitamin supplements from outer space.
Mark Kelly met his wife, Gabrielle Giffords, who was later tragically shot in an incident in Arizona.
He met at a Chinese leaders meeting in 2003 set up by the Chinese Communist Party's consultative committee.
It was at a Communist Party gathering that they met.
He was actively involved in several businesses with China, including with high-ranking Communist Party officials over several years.
And right up until very, very recent times.
The man is completely compromised by his Chinese connections.
But we also found out that he's working with some people connected to NIAC, which is the National Iranian Action Committee.
And they are the main lobby group for the Mueller's in America.
They are lobbying for a resumption of the Iran nuclear deal, which they want, which Trump cancelled.
And they are putting pressure on Mark Kelly to deliver that.
He has said he will vote for it.
He's very heavily tied in with a local Arizona woman who's part of NIAC. Who did her thesis at Stanford, I believe, on the Iran nuclear deal.
But he's endorsing her.
She's supporting him.
She's getting votes for him.
She's working together.
That is an Iranian influence operation, and he's right smack in the middle of it.
So he's influenced by both Iran and communist China.
Yeah, I've noticed there's a lot of establishment money being thrown in his campaign there in Arizona.
A ton of money.
That's obviously not all from Arizona.
Well, who owns the establishment?
Who owns Wall Street?
Is Wall Street ever going to stand up to China when they're so deeply embedded with China?
The DNC was deeply embedded with China.
This is the thing.
Once these people get compromised...
They have to protect each other because if somebody cracks, they know this could start a chain reaction that leads to them.
So Mark Kelly, they know Mark Kelly's compromised, but they know they're compromised, so they've got to protect Mark Kelly.
We are living in a country It's not Republican-Democrat so much, it's the people versus China and Iran and other countries that have compromised our leaders.
Mark Levin wrote this book, American Marxism, which was a very good book, but he completely missed the point.
The American Revolution is run from overseas.
And nobody's stopping it.
It's run from China, it's run from Cuba, it's run from Iran, it's run from Venezuela, it's still run from Russia to a degree.
So, you know, this is the number one problem we have.
Our government isn't run by Americans.
And also elections.
So there was an arrest in the last two weeks.
I forgot the man's name.
You know what I'm talking about?
That voting technology company was absolutely sharing data with China.
Yeah, you've got it.
And remember, that was called a conspiracy theory, that idea that China could be looking at voter data, but actually...
It looks like some data is passed through China.
So my question to you, Mr.
Lauda, do you believe that the midterm elections coming up here, are they secure enough to have a real election or is it so totally rigged that it's beyond hope?
Look, I think, look, the Republicans won Virginia.
They have won several local races.
They have won school board races in Wisconsin and Texas and many other places.
I think there is rigging.
I think there is cheating.
But I think the red wave is going to be big enough that it's going to swamp most of that.
I think a lot of states like Florida have done quite a lot of work on election integrity.
It's not enough to satisfy me.
I won't be satisfied until we go back to paper ballots and full voter ID. Yes.
But I think some work has been done, and I think the Republicans will have a very, very good election.
Well, I'm certainly hoping so.
And that will give us a little bit of a breathing space and a little bit of a fighting chance to start to claw things back.
The danger will be, you know, is China going to start a war between now and then?
Is Biden going to use that as an excuse to postpone the elections or even cancel the elections?
Both Russia and China are getting ready for war right now.
It's not going to take much to pull that trigger, you know?
Absolutely.
And, you know, I've interviewed other guests who believe that China is about to attack America.
And, of course, over the weekend, there's been a lot of news about this dirty bomb in Ukraine.
That's right.
The State Department officials essentially around the world saying, hey, we didn't put that bomb there.
Ukraine did, and they're going to set it off and try to blame us.
So you can see that there are things that are being coordinated to start World War III potentially in the next week, literally.
Well, that's right.
That's right.
This is what worries me.
We're going to need God's help here because I'll tell you what, we're in trouble.
If you were Xi Jinping or Vladimir Putin, would you want Biden, the Democrats out of power?
No.
When they're giving them everything they want?
No, you would want them in power for sure.
Absolutely.
You don't want some crazy person like Donald Trump coming back or Ron DeSantis or someone like that who actually believes in defending America, do you?
No.
Look, Donald Trump presided over four years of the greatest peace we have known for decades.
As soon as he was out of power, we had the Afghan debacle, which I believe was completely deliberate.
You know, North Korea's rattling its sabers.
China's rattling its sabers.
You know, Russia has invaded Ukraine.
Iran is doing stuff in the Middle East.
We've had a massive border surge.
God knows how many foreign agents are coming across that border.
We've had the whole world of balance of power is tilting now.
Within a year or two of the change of president, don't ever tell me elections don't make a difference.
This is all happening because Biden, who has basically worked with the Russians and the Chinese his entire political career when he wasn't working with the Iranians, is really there to put us under.
If Joe Biden was a fully paid-up Chinese agent His goal was to destroy the United States military, alter the world balance of power, wreck the U.S. economy, destroy the U.S. middle class.
What would he be doing differently than he has done?
Nothing.
He'd be getting top marks.
Xi Jinping would be putting a little gold star on his homework book.
Exactly.
Now, you have part two of your security risk senators coming out this week, correct?
Yeah, well, it'll be available on Amazon this week.
The hard copies through me might take a little bit longer, but it should be available from Amazon in a couple of days.
Okay, so just for people who want to get that, and part one has been out for a while.
A couple of weeks, yes.
Oh, okay, just a couple of weeks.
So, folks, just look for the book.
It's called Security Risk Senators, correct?
Security Risk Senators Part 1.
You can get that through my website, trevorloudon.com or from Amazon.
If you want it signed, you need to go through me.
And Part 2 is coming out any day now on Amazon and through me a little bit later.
Okay, great.
And is this, you know, folks, I just want to encourage you listening to support Trevor Loudon's work.
I can't, I don't know, you know, how do you, I mean, if I'm asking too much private information, that's fine, but how do you even fund your ability to function?
Because you don't have, you know, big advertising and big revenue models or anything like that.
You sell a few books here and there, and the film, The Enemies Within, and I mean, it's got to be hard to function on those funds.
Yeah, and George Soros isn't even sending me a check every week.
Right.
But look, I get appearance fees.
I write books.
My books are popular.
I sell lots of books.
Enemies with it.
You know, I'm doing okay.
I'd like to do a lot better.
I'd like to have more money so I could actually pay researchers.
Yes.
You know, that would be great.
But I'm certainly not complaining.
I'm living the American dream.
I live in a nice...
Reasonably a nice place.
I've got a fishing dock nearby.
I'm in Florida.
I'm in Florida for the family, the fishing and the freedom.
But I want to get the word out.
So I do my show on Epoch TV. I do interviews like you.
I sell books.
I get appearance fees.
But these books, I think I'm going to sell lots and lots of them because these are the best research books ever I think there's things in these books that will shock people to the core.
Alex Padilla, the senator from California.
Ron Wyden and Jeff Merkley, the senators from Oregon, both incredibly left-wing Marxists.
Dick Durbin, some we know, like Dick Durbin, but Chuck Schumer as well.
Even John Hickenlooper from Colorado, who many regard as a moderate.
Kirsten Sinema who's now Mitch McConnell's best friend has been involved with the Communist Party in Arizona Since the early 2000s, right up to the present day.
But Mitch McConnell thinks he's going to convert her to the Republican Party.
That's interesting.
Well, yeah, Mitch McConnell.
Well, Mitch McConnell, we know his Chinese connections, don't we?
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, he's married, too.
But let me ask you this.
So you've also got enemies within the church.
Is that something that's coming out?
No, that's been out for about 10 or 11 months now.
Oh, okay.
It's a two-hour documentary with numerous whistleblowers detailing the incredibly deep Marxist penetration of not just the mainstream churches, because that's been going on for nearly a century, but the last 10 years has been a major push into the evangelical churches and even the Southern Baptists.
And they are the people who elected Reagan and Trump.
Well, in five years, they won't be doing that anymore.
They'll be voting for Bernie Sanders.
They'll be voting for Elizabeth Warren.
The churches are going woke, and wokeism is Marxism.
And this is flooding the evangelical churches.
Yeah, I wanted to really ask you about this.
You say wokeism is Marxism, and so we've seen some churches, some left-wing churches, inviting transgenders in to speak to children.
We've seen, of course, drag queen storytime taking over public schools and so on, and this wokeism is so truly insane.
That if you asked me 10 years ago, could they pull this off?
I would have said no way.
There's no way they could convince people that men can get pregnant, that they could have CDC officials, FDA officials, ACLU leaders saying that men can get pregnant.
I can't believe they've got the AMA, the Medical Association, saying that men can get pregnant.
I'm like, are you kidding me?
This is Maoist mass line enforcement.
This is cognitive dissonance gone crazy.
You remember the famous scene from...
From 1984, when Winston is being tortured.
And they say, two plus two is five.
And he say, no, no, it's not, it's not.
And they tortured him, tortured him, tortured him, tortured him.
And eventually he says, yes, yes, two plus two is five.
And they keep torturing him.
He says, you have to believe it.
You know, they are so screwing with our consciousness that We know, look in the old Soviet Union, everybody used to know that the Communist Party was lying to them, but that all voice, that all say no, that all agree publicly with the Communist Party message.
Well, that's what's happening here in America right now.
The LGBTQ movement is completely Marxist.
You know, it was started by Harry Hay, the Communist Party member.
Who was recruited to the Communist Party by his homosexual lover, an actor called Will Gere.
You might remember him, Grandpa Walton.
Okay?
But the whole gay rights movement is completely Marxist.
But the churches have got on board with this.
Black Lives Matter is a Chinese communist operation.
But the churches are taking a knee to these people.
The concept of white privilege was invented by two Communist Party members who moved into the Chinese camp, Noel Ignatian and Ted Allen.
They invented that concept to basically spread Marxism into the racial arena rather than simply the class arena.
But churches are preaching this stuff too.
So are businesses.
So are colleges.
So are major news agencies.
But it's incredible to me.
It's Maoism.
It's communism.
It's straight-out communism, but it's all over.
How has it been so effective?
it because you would think that individuals would resist the BS and would say, no, you know, we're not going to attack people just because they're white or even just because they're black or whatever, that they would reject the nonsense, the biological fairy tales of transgenderism or that they would reject the nonsense, the biological fairy tales of transgenderism or even the child mutilation surgeries and chemical castrations, But people have been taken over.
People stand up for their kids, wouldn't you?
You think?
It's changing people's consciousness.
You know, the gay homosexual population is about 2% of America, right?
And the actual gay radicals are about 2% of the 2%.
But they have more political power in this country than does the Christian community.
I'll absolutely guarantee that.
Because they're organized on Marxist-Leninist principles.
And they have an enforcement mechanism.
They have ridicule.
They have the journalists behind them.
They have the academics behind them.
De-platforming.
De-platforming.
You stand up against them, they'll come after you.
So people just self-censor.
Like, Stalin didn't have to kill everybody who disagreed with him.
He just had to kill enough to terrify everybody else.
Well, that's what they're doing here.
They don't have to terrify every academic in the country.
They just have to de-platform, or every blogger, they just have to de-platform a few, and everybody else thinks, oh, I get the message, I better not talk about that anymore.
It's mass line enforcement.
This is Marxist revolution.
Our consciousness is being changed by actual communists in our churches, in our news media.
They're only a small minority.
But they're using Marxist-Leninist techniques, they're using Gramsci, and they have a proven 100-year record of enforcing Marxism on populations.
They know how to do it.
They did it in Cuba, they did it in China, they did it in the Soviet Union, and damn it, now they're doing it to us.
Well, they sure are doing it to us.
I want to mention your website, keywiki.org, and that's just like it sounds, K-E-Y, keywiki.org.
Looks like it has 150,000 articles where you document everything you're talking about here, correct?
Well, that's right.
What I do in that is I profile virtually every Democrat senator, most of the presidential candidates, city councillors, state reps, congressmen, street-level communists, radicals, anarchists, Islamists, and like Wikipedia, you can connect them with the blue links, you know.
I have lists of names in there and you can connect them up.
And this is how I connect the dots.
You know, I do a lot of archival research, a lot of internet research.
I put all my information onto Kiwiki, and you start to see the connections.
This is how I can come to a foreign country and tell people that half their leaders are betraying them.
You know, if I didn't have the evidence, do you think I could get away with that?
Yeah.
Well, no, no.
In fact, I mean, here's a question.
How is it that they haven't killed you yet?
Well, don't give them ideas.
No, but seriously, I mean, they don't want any of this uncovered, right?
Sure.
Look, I don't know.
I've been threatened a few times, more in New Zealand than here, actually.
But look, I just don't care.
There's two ways to be safe.
One is to have no profile, and one is to have a high profile.
Well, I can't go back to having no profile, so I better keep having a high profile.
I better keep putting it out there.
Seriously, I get up in the morning every day and think, well, I'm doing God's work here.
This is what He wants me to do.
And if it's going to cause me some grief, so be it.
Well, we're all...
I mean, they target all of us in one way or another, but they are so effective at deplatforming that...
Well, I've certainly been deplatformed on Twitter and Facebook and lots of things, but you keep going.
That's why I'm doing books now, you know, more because people can get a paper book.
Yes.
They can buy a paper book and they can't take that off you.
They can't shut it down.
Even if you've got no electricity, you can set up a candle and read it.
The old technologies have their advantages.
And so I'm putting this book out there to put it on the record for every American to understand just how deep the treachery is in the U.S. Senate.
And then I'm doing one in the Congress after that.
Let me ask you about the judiciary, because we recently saw this rigged trial against Alex Jones.
And the trial, I don't know how familiar you are with that, but the judge simply declared him in default, did not allow him to testify in his defense, did not allow a trial by jury to determine his guilt or innocence.
The judge declared him guilty, and then they had the jury decide the punishment.
And over the weekend, the jury decided they wanted punishment of $2.75 trillion, which is 10% of the entire GDP of planet Earth.
Now, it's the craziest thing in the history of kangaroo courts, but isn't this exactly the kind of thing that was carried out in the old Soviet Union, for example, or Cuba for that one?
Well, yeah, look, one of the first things the communists do is get control of the judiciary.
Now, In the 1930s, the Communist Party set up the National Lawyers Guild.
That's the Communist Party legal front.
And you would be shocked to see how many of your key judges came through the National Lawyers Guild.
I'd just say on the Supreme Court, Sotomayor is a Marxist.
Ginsburg was a Marxist.
Breyer had a Maoist on his staff for a while.
You know, what's the other one?
Kagan.
Kagan is completely a Marxist.
Oh, yeah, clearly.
You know, but this goes down, you know, how many times did Trump issue an executive order and some little twerp from the Ninth Circuit would say, no, you can't do that.
Right.
Well, these are all Marxist judges.
Right.
You know, the judiciary system is deeply rotten.
It's deeply compromised with these people.
And they are weaponizing the law against us.
We all know there's two legal systems in the country now.
There's a system for the left, which will let you off almost anything.
And there's a system for everybody else, who you better watch out if you criticize the government.
You know, we know this.
We can't argue this anymore.
We've seen the Justice Department, what it's done.
We know this is the case.
Let's talk about Possible solutions.
I mean, okay, election is coming up.
We might be able to defeat several of these people, get them out of power soon by January.
But then again, this infiltration also extends to certain elements in the GOP as well, does it not?
Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
There's a lot of solutions, but here's one that I think we need to do.
If you give me a couple of minutes, I'll explain.
Yeah, go for it.
See, there's always been this situation, like when Thomas Dewey was trying to take down Murder, Inc., when Elliot Ness was going after Al Capone.
what you find is these gangsters always had informants and people paid off in the judiciary and the police force and they would intimidate witnesses so nobody could ever ever get them.
Right.
Yeah.
It was always war.
So, so what these guys did, they would form special elite units like Thomas Dewey, um, interviewed personally, 1200 people before he found he could get enough to form a small team to go after murder Inc.
And then they would offer protection to witnesses.
And these elite teams combined with witness protection took down Murder, Inc.
This is how Giuliani helped damage the mob in New York.
The low-level mafia would get caught.
He'd get three years jail.
The mafia would look after his family.
He'd get out and go back to work.
Then they started giving him 30-year jail sentences for heroin and offering witness protection.
And guess what?
Guido would squeal.
And he'd squeal right up the chain.
So this is what the next conservative president has to do.
President Trump, DeSantis, whoever it is, you form a new elite intelligence unit and it's led by people who left the services at the beginning of the Obama era at the latest.
I'm talking people from CIA, FBI, IRS, DEA, all of it.
Then you bring in new people from their special forces, from technical institutes, vet them To the nth degree.
So you've got maybe four or five hundred people in this new unit, maximum.
Very compartmentalised, so if you get a rotten element at one, it won't affect the rest.
Then the President declares a three-month amnesty.
Every foreign agent and everybody compromised by a foreign agent has got three months to leave the country or turn themselves in.
Three months.
And when they turn themselves in, they've got to spill their guts.
Everything they know.
And at the end of three months, anybody left gets rounded up and goes to Leavenworth for 35 years, right?
Every single foreign network in the country would implode.
Because nobody would know who to trust.
Every shady Iranian businessman dealing with a defense contractor wouldn't know if the guy had taken a deal and was wearing a wire.
Every Chinese agent wouldn't know if the senator he was working with had also cooperated with this new agency.
It would just create absolute chaos amongst the Iranian and Russian and Chinese networks in the country.
What you would have, there's thousands of people just leave the country, Russian, mafia, Chinese businessmen, they'll be out.
Oh yeah, you'd see senators taking private charter flights to Argentina.
Or leaving the Senate for health reasons.
You'd probably see about a third of the Senate leave.
You'd see a whole bunch of...
Academics retiring.
You'd see a whole bunch of businessmen leaving their corporations or lawyering up.
See, to me, this is the Christian way of doing it.
Because we're not after vengeance here.
We're after the merit.
We want the American people to understand how deeply treason has penetrated their country.
Some of these people are going to try and tough it out, and they're going to get caught, and they're going to go to jail for very long periods of time, maybe even executed.
But the bulk of them just got into this.
They might have been compromised on a business trip, sexually compromised.
They might be blackmailed.
Their relatives might have been threatened.
They want a way out.
So what you do is offer an amnesty.
You come forward, spill your guts, you will escape prosecution, you will never hold public office again, but what your punishment will be between you and God, as long as you tell the truth.
If we find out you haven't been telling the truth, you didn't give us full disclosure, we'll come after you.
And you will go to jail for a very long time.
That's a very elegant way of just shutting down every foreign network in the country within a very short space of time and exposing to the American people just how bad the problem is so that they will accept The measures that need to be taken to stop this happening again, loyalty oaths, investigations, House Un-American Activities Committee, etc.
A brilliant, brilliant plan.
I'm really enthusiastic to hear this.
I love your idea.
It's going to take a president and an AG with backbone who are not going to back down and not try to be popular with the press during this time.
But, you know, I'm thinking in the Philippines, Duterte did a similar thing like this against the drug dealers.
He said there's going to be amnesty and everybody can...
I think he said you get amnesty if you're a drug dealer and you have to turn in at least one other drug dealer, right?
So immediately all the drug dealers turned on each other.
A lot of people were able to get out of the system.
They were not prosecuted.
And then the others, what Duterte did, and I'm not saying that I endorse this policy, but what Duterte did is he hired...
Government assassination teams to go start killing the drug dealers that didn't turn themselves in.
Now, again, that's not rule of law type of activity, but that's what he did.
But it's the principle, isn't it?
This is how the British took down the thuggy networks in India in the 19th century.
The thuggy were gangs that would go around just murdering and pillaging and killing.
And he offered amnesty for any thuggy who would come forward and expose their networks.
You escape prosecution.
And he got thousands of people coming forward.
You turn them against each other.
So true.
And you immediately create suspicion in their own ranks.
Absolutely.
They wouldn't know who to trust.
They wouldn't know who's taking the deal.
And the stakes of making a mistake are big.
Because if you're in the country after those three months and you go to the wrong person and say the wrong thing, you could go to jail for 30 years.
Do you think that's going to be a little bit of a deterrence for some of these people?
Yeah, I think so.
So there is then a pathway to this if...
Elections can function coming up here in November and then also in 2024.
And if somebody with backbone actually gets in the Oval Office, this could happen.
Do you think there's anybody with such backbone?
Look, I think Trump would do this.
I think DeSantis would do this.
You know, I think we're going to be forced in the position where we're going to have to do this because this country is teetering on the brink of destruction now.
We either let it happen or we clean the foreign agents out and our domestic traders out.
We are on the verge of destruction because we've treated treason like a misdemeanor.
Right.
When's the last time a congressman was tried for treason in this country or influence peddling?
I can't even think of when.
In foreign countries, they regularly arrest members of parliament for treason and offences like that.
It's a common thing.
While America has the most important legislators on the planet, the people with the most influence and the people with the most information, don't you think they'd be targets for our enemies?
Considering that nobody is watching or stopping them.
You know, that famous quote, you know, why doth treason never prosper?
Because when treason prospers, none dare call it treason.
It's so damn endemic that nobody's calling it out.
That's why you have to offer a combination of amnesty and heavy, heavy penalties to flush them out and get them turning each other in.
I don't see another way forward on this.
Well, I'm glad you're wrapping us up here with some good news like that, at least the potential for it.
Also, we didn't get a chance to cover this, but governors are also compromised.
I know you're well aware of this.
It's, in fact, perhaps half of them, something like that.
Well, many, you know, Pompeo went out a year or two ago and warned all these Republican governors to watch out for the Chinese.
And I think a whole bunch of these governors thought, yeah, yeah, he's talking about me there.
Several of the Republican governors are in bed with the Chinese, and many of the Democrats are as well.
And here's a little point to consider.
The Chinese gave us COVID, right?
Biological attack.
Then certain states had very, very harsh lockdowns.
Certain countries had harsh lockdowns.
Other countries not so...
Other places not so much.
All of the places with the heaviest lockdowns and heaviest restrictions were the states and the countries with the most Chinese influence.
That's true.
California, Hawaii, Oregon...
Washington State, Illinois, New York, Massachusetts.
The Chinese use their subservient politicians and they use the labor unions which they control because the communists control the labor unions in this country and the labor unions and the communists are loyal to China.
They inflicted maximum damage on this country and kept the lockdowns going for as long as they possibly could and you will see without a doubt That the states with the worst lockdowns are the ones with the most Chinese influence.
And you look at Australia, Victoria, they had the worst lockdowns.
Their premier bought the Belt and Road into Australia.
You know, this is a pattern you'll see all over the world.
Chinese gave us the virus, they managed the lockdowns, they gave us Black Lives Matter, and then they stole the elections, and they're killing 100,000 of our kids every year with their fentanyl, But the good news is you can buy cheap crap in Walmart.
Was that Dan Andrews in Australia?
He was so obedient to China's bidding, it seems.
He and, of course, in your country, Ardern was turning New Zealand into a prison camp.
Well, Ardern was the world leader of the International Socialist Youth in 2010.
She is not a liberal.
She is a Marxist.
100% Marxist.
She demonstrated that.
Yeah.
So this is what Marxists do.
They love power.
You know, what she did to my country was nothing really.
It didn't save us anything.
Now we've got just as much COVID as anywhere else, but we wasted two years of wrecking our economy to get there.
Yeah.
You know, but...
She was happy because she had power.
And most of her cabinet is Marxist as well.
New Zealand is like America.
It's undergoing a socialist revolution right now.
And Australia has just elected a Marxist prime minister.
And we know there's a Marxist in Canada.
So it's really the...
There's not a lot of countries standing right at the moment.
So this next election...
The election in Brazil and the election in the U.S., That are coming up now, the two most important elections in the world right now.
Right now.
This is going to decide our fate in many ways.
Well, and that's why they are probably trying to interfere or halt or somehow screw with these elections in one way or another, it seems.
I'm very concerned about the next two weeks.
I am too.
Look, we are God on our side.
We've got to be disciplined.
We've got to be focused.
We've got to get onto the polls.
We've got to watch the polls.
We've got to get everybody up to vote.
And with God's help, we'll be okay.
But look, yeah, anything could happen in two weeks, couldn't it?
Anything at all could happen.
Absolutely.
If we do our bit, at least we've got a clean conscience.
At least we can say we tried.
And look, I honestly think we'll be okay.
I think we will.
But I'm not delusional.
I'm not too Pollyannish about this.
But there's more of us than there are of them.
We're on the side of right.
And sometimes things go our way.
President Trump getting elected was a miracle.
God watches after us from time to time, and he set a bar for us.
We will never accept anything less again.
We will not accept rhinos anymore.
We will not accept sellouts anymore.
We only want leaders from now on who will put America first and the people first.
The field has changed.
Yep.
We've got 80 million Trump voters out there.
30 million more who wish they had been and God.
That's a pretty big army.
Yeah, indeed.
Well, lovely interpretation of where we are.
I agree with you, and I hold out a sense of optimism for where this ends up as well.
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Fantastic.
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Loudon, late in the evening here.
But this has been a fascinating conversation, and I've really enjoyed speaking with you, and I'm so glad that you are here and doing this work and spreading the word.
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You're doing a fine job, and you're one of the best voices out there, so it's been a pleasure for me as well.
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