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Oct. 17, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Aaron Brickman and Mike Adams discuss the Fourth Turning and the RISE and FALL of civilizations
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All right, today we welcome back a fan favorite, an instant fan favorite, Aaron Brickman.
We were able to talk with Mr.
Mr. Brickman, two weeks ago about cycles of, well, not only markets, but of civilization and humanity and so on, and solar cycles and cosmic cycles and what's coming into play right now.
And we are in the middle of a window that he spoke about two weeks ago right now, between now and Election Day, as I understand it.
Mr. Brickman joins us for a two-week update.
There's been a lot of activity over the last two weeks.
And to help us analyze that and what awaits us in the near future, Mr. Aaron Brickman joins us.
Mr. Brickman, it's an honor to have you back on.
I loved speaking with you last time.
Welcome back.
Thank you, Mike.
This is good to be back and I really appreciate those kind words and that's awesome.
Thank you for having me and just call me Aaron.
Okay, I'll call you Aaron.
I want to give out your Twitter handle.
It's at A.G. Brickman, just like it sounds, Brickman, like Brickman.
A.G. Brickman is your Twitter handle.
People want to follow you there.
Now, where do you want to begin?
Because I was really thinking about you on last Thursday, especially when the markets took a crazy nosedive, and then there was a massive...
Obviously, Fed supported recovery, so the volatility was off the charts.
And the traders that I know just threw up their hands like, we don't know what's happening anymore.
This is insane.
Where do you want to start?
Well, it's interesting.
And you guys can check my Twitter feed and look at the date timestamp on the tweet.
About five minutes before that rally started, I posted a tweet that Basically in real time showing where we were at versus 29 in the 08 analog and the 1987 analog.
And I went long, about three points off the bottom.
And we did exactly on Thursday what we were supposed to do.
Oh, wow.
So you saw that recovery, what, building up?
It was so...
So, you know, we had all these milestones we talked about, and the very last milestone, which I didn't really even mention because it was so granular, was the Thursday rally that would take us up into Friday.
We did that in 29, we did it in 87, and we did it in 08.
And I'll give you a little stat.
So in 1929, we were supposed to...
So here's the deal.
We went back to the lows, right?
We established we were at a high in August.
We were supposed to go down to the June lows.
We went to the June lows at Rosh Hashanah.
We were supposed to bounce and literally top at Yom Kippur.
We literally topped on Yom Kippur.
Then we were supposed to roll over and go right back to the neckline, right back to the support level.
And there's a day count sequence that we're supposed to do that in, and we were doing it.
That's why I posted the charts that we were literally every single day doing what we had historically done.
And I posted a chart because what we were supposed to do then on Thursday was in 1929, we were supposed to bounce from that intraday low to the next day high.
They bounced in 1929 5.87%.
In 2008, they did the exact same thing and bounced 5.42%.
In 2020, it was 5.41.
So you have three crashes less than half a percentage point from each other.
And on Thursday, going into Friday, we bounced 5.69.
So we were 21 hundredths off of what we did in 1929.
That's kind of incredible, if you ask me.
Yeah, it is.
It's still fitting the pattern.
And just for those listening, you and I are talking, Aaron, on October 16th, which is a Sunday.
And most people, well, no one will hear this until Monday after the markets open, but you and I are recording this late at night.
But you're talking about three days ago, Thursday, which would have been the 13th.
I just want to be clear.
Correct.
That's correct.
Now, so then what does the pattern say happens from here?
So the pattern is, this is where it's...
I posted a tweet saying, every mile marker, every 1929, 1987, 2008 analog, because they're all the same.
I just went through the pivots a minute ago with Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur and all this stuff.
All right, so...
We literally, since our last interview, have literally done every single milestone I laid out on August 25th.
There are no more milestones.
That's it.
So I posted on Friday.
I don't know if we're going to crash, okay?
I'm not saying that we...
I think we talked last time about weather conditions.
You have to have these conditions present for a storm, but just because you have all the conditions present doesn't necessarily mean you have a storm every single time.
But I've never in 25 years of trading done an analog where you literally check it at, you know, like I mean, at a very, very granular level we're now talking about.
Frankly, I didn't think we were going to do that Thursday-Friday bounce.
I thought we were going to do the bounce, but not like within 21 hundredths of a percentage to 1929.
I mean, I wasn't, and I didn't need to.
We didn't need to do that, but we did it.
So we're at the point where place your bets.
Yeah, and what happened on Thursday and Friday was so dramatic that people who work in the markets were just, their minds were blown that day.
And it seems, I've listened to a lot of other people in alt media who believe that that was the crash beginning to unfold and snowball, and that the Fed, they think, jumped in.
To just start buying equities.
Just anything.
That's what I've heard.
Okay, what's your take on it?
The Fed does not want to buy equities.
Okay, so here we go.
Here's my little...
I'm going to...
I want to start off with saying this.
The thing that is afflicting...
The American people is also afflicting Wall Street.
What is that affliction?
In the United States, I have never seen a population that has such an inability to have reality testing.
We have an entire nation that refuses to accept the facts, accept reality, and they think that Basically, the delusion creates reality.
Yes, that's for sure.
That's what they believe.
Okay.
I have, in 25 years of trading, I have never seen that afflict Wall Street.
But we're now seeing it.
And here's how we're seeing it.
We have a Federal Reserve that all year has been very matter-of-fact and to the point about what they're going to do.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
They're not couching it.
They're not waffling.
They're not trying to trick everybody.
And Wall Street just cannot accept the fact that they're actually doing what they say they're going to do.
Uh-huh.
Right.
Okay.
And they've been consistent and repeated in it.
And the economic numbers continue to catch Wall Street by surprise because they have this fantasy of That somehow we're going to have a Fed pivot any moment now.
That's right.
Okay, so I will assure you, we are not having a Fed pivot.
Just that is not what the Federal Reserve is about to do.
Not until sometime next year, perhaps, next summer?
I don't think they're going to pivot until they break the system.
Okay.
Okay.
So what do I mean by that?
I mean that I think we're going to see 75 basis points on November 2nd.
I think we're going to see 75 basis points in December.
I think they are going...
I believe he will be Volcker.
We have Biden playing the role of Jimmy Carter.
And we're going to have this Fed chairman playing the role of Volcker.
But he's got a long way to go to get the Volcker territory here.
You think they're just going to keep going there?
Absolutely.
They're going to break this market.
And they don't care about breaking this market because they're playing a much grander game.
And that is the currency wars.
My personal belief is we have multiple factions among the globalists.
You've got the Americans, you've got the Japanese, and basically the Europeans.
You've got the Russians and the Chinese that want to, you know, do their own thing, which I won't get into tonight.
But, you know, within the West, you basically have three factions.
And we're seeing the euro break, we're seeing the British pound break, we're seeing yen break.
Yes.
Well, who's that?
That consolidates global hegemony into the dollar.
For a while, until the dollar breaks, I guess.
But you're right.
For now, the dollar is king.
The dollar is king.
Okay.
And as he raises interest rates, guess what happens to the dollar?
It goes higher.
Well, I mean, all the European investors are flooding into U.S. markets to get the higher returns.
Correct.
Okay.
So, he's not going to bail the markets out.
They're going to crash these markets.
And they're going to crash these markets to place they are going to wring the excess out of these markets that they built up for 20 years.
So, we're not talking about wringing out the last two or three years.
They're going to break this market.
So that's going to be truly epic, because if you're talking since 2002, the markets have gone up how many times?
I mean, what was the Dow in 2002?
The Dow in 2002 was around 7,800.
Oh my goodness!
So you're talking 75% or 80% correction.
Yeah.
I think when everything's said and done, we'll have a 70% correction.
70%?
70%.
Wow.
I think they'll take the Dow to around 11,000.
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
And they're going to do it fast.
So you're not going to have to wait.
For all the people out there that don't like waiting, you won't have to wait for them.
So what do you think happened on Friday with the big rebound?
Was it just an artifact of the Hopium or what?
So if you want to crash, that's exactly what you wanted to see.
Remember last time we talked about waves on the beach?
When the waves pull off the shore, the faster and deeper they pull off, you better run because there's a tsunami coming because it's using that energy from that prior wave.
That's what the markets did on Thursday and Friday.
They had a really sharp pullback.
I tell people the way this works is it's kind of like when you were shooting rubber bands as a kid.
The farther you want the rubber band to travel, the farther you have to pull it back and use that energy.
That's what markets do.
That's what you saw was it was pulling back for the next breakdown.
In addition, it serves a second purpose and almost a primary purpose, which is very few people will be short when it crashes.
Okay.
Because what it's doing, it's a bull market.
Okay.
It's a bull.
And you're going to have to hold on for longer than eight seconds.
That's what these huge rallies in the middle of the day, they blow out all the shorts.
They just have to cover.
Good point.
And then as soon as they cover, what happens?
Then the thing starts free-falling again.
Now they've got to chase it and get back in, but now they're inverted on their trade because they're getting in.
I mean, this is how they just get chewed up.
So that's why I've told people I am not touching these trades.
I'm not trying to trade it.
I'm trying to basically hold on for dear life.
It's like a big wave surfing we talked about last time.
You're just trying to stay on the board and not fall off.
You're not trying, you know, if you're doing, if you're big wave surfing doing 60, 70 foot waves, they're not doing, they're not carving out there.
They're just like trying to not, Literally die.
Correct.
Yeah.
That's what crashes are.
You're not trying to get cute with your positions.
It's get short and hold on until the dust settles.
So that was perfect.
Look, not only did that rally.
So let's go through the three things why I like that rally.
That rally happened exactly historically, according to the analog, like to the day.
It was within 21 hundredths.
Of a percent of matching 1929.
That's phenomenal.
Since we're talking about repeating 1929, that's kind of, you know, of note.
It shook a bunch of shorts out.
And now it's ready to nosedive.
It's doing...
In bear markets...
Well, let me rephrase it.
The biggest rallies happened in bear markets.
Okay.
So when you're getting these five, I mean, it was, you know, almost 6% move in literally, I mean, basically most of that move was done in the first two hours.
Okay.
That's phenomenal.
So, you know, getting past this, you know, it was on schedule.
It's doing what it's supposed to be doing.
And that sets things up for really tomorrow.
Again, you and I are talking on Sunday.
Tomorrow in the markets, anything could go.
Yeah, there are so many, you know, without getting technical for non-technical traders out there, I could show charts and I could talk for two hours about how precarious the positions are and how many different formations are in the charts that are precarious.
Look, when this support level cracks, I will assure you all hell will break loose.
Well, there's a...
There's a story...
Go ahead, Mike.
Well, I was just going to quote.
There's a story on Zero Hedge over the weekend by Eric Peters.
He's the CIO of One River Asset Management.
Quote, I'm growing extremely concerned about the market.
We're close to a broad liquidation point for markets.
And the thought...
Let's see.
He says...
Removing the possibility that banks would be the source of risk in the financial system required that regulators prevented them from having flexible balance sheets, but they can no longer be a buyer in periods of market stress, and so on.
He gives all these reasons, but the bottom line is he's talking about a, quote, broad liquidation moment that's about to be achieved.
Yeah, that's a euphemism for...
A crash.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, that means they're going abroad.
They're going to sell everything, and they're not going to wait.
Here's from that article.
He says they underestimate the impact of, quote, rapidly contracting liquidity.
How do you like that one?
Yeah, i.e.
the Fed took away the punch bowl.
Yeah.
Look, everybody keeps thinking the Fed's joking.
I have been saying all year.
They're serious.
They're dead serious.
And we're going to find out how dead serious they are.
And unfortunately, the majority is going to figure it out in hindsight.
Good point.
But then if the Fed does this on the bright side, the silver lining of all this is, at some point, won't it bring inflation down because everybody's going to be so broke and so many assets destroyed?
Prices will fall at some point?
Well, I would argue, I don't think the inflation is nearly attributed to their economic policies as the average person thinks.
Now, that's not to give them a pass.
Look, they're the ones that created this mess, especially coming out of the OA crisis.
And you were reporting on it.
I've known about it.
Every trader who understands this understood.
They were boxing themselves in a corner.
They're reaching the endgame, right?
Okay, so they're not going to get a pass, and I don't really feel sorry for them.
However, look, we're having rising prices not because the middle class is being flooded with money.
We're having rising prices because they broke the supply chains.
Well, could it be both, though?
Definitely.
Look, yeah, that's not just one cause, but here's the point with the supply chains.
Look, they can go squeeze everything.
They can remove the punch bowl to Wall Street, to be sure.
That's not going to solve rising prices on the supply chain issues in the home builders when they can't get windows and they can't get...
I mean, all the stuff, you know, car parts, everything, computer chips.
I mean...
That's supply-demand.
They didn't do demand destruction.
They did supply destruction.
That's very clear.
And even Biden signed that executive order targeting China's semiconductor industry.
It's been called an annihilation of the industry in China for strategic reasons.
But all those microchips that were coming out of China, not Taiwan, but China, those microchips I mean, that supply chain just got shattered last week.
Yeah, I mean, again, I keep saying this.
We're on the same page, you and I. The supply chain broke two years ago, and it's not coming back.
It's not coming back.
I keep repeating myself.
It's not coming back because we're headed towards war.
It's not coming back because the Chinese are shifting towards a war manufacturing.
I mean, they're retooling their manufacturing for the coming war.
There's a lot of things behind the background.
Globalism is dead.
Globalism They announced the death of globalism months ago, and Putin didn't call it globalism.
He called it a unipolar world.
It's over.
He said it's going multipolar and it's going regional blocks.
Yes.
And whoever has the commodities sets the rules for the new...
Sets the rules.
Yes.
So...
We're headed towards...
So globalism is dead.
That doesn't mean there's not a push for globalists and all that.
I want to be clear.
We're talking about economic globalism as we have known it is dead.
Right, right.
Getting your parts from 53 countries to assemble your product in Mexico to sell it in the USA. Oh, man.
I knew a guy years ago who was involved in...
They were doing like backpacks.
I found out the backpacks were being shipped to three different continents for assembly.
For assembly.
Wild.
It was wild.
The zippers would be put on here, and then it would be sewn over here.
And I was like, are you kidding me?
A backpack?
Wow.
I mean, people don't understand just how...
What globalism has meant from a manufacturing standpoint?
They think, well, we just outsource it to Thailand and somehow they're going to make the whole thing there.
That's not how it actually works.
Or look at automobiles, like Dodge trucks, right?
Assembled in Mexico.
But those parts, there's thousands of parts.
And they can't get some of them.
Correct.
So...
So yeah, they're going to break the financial system.
And he's telling you he's going to break it.
The only thing that'll get the Fed to pivot eventually will be a total system breakdown.
Hmm.
But you said importantly, Aaron, that the Wall Street people don't believe the Fed when the Fed tells them that the Fed is going to continue to move, to break the market.
But the traders are coming up with reasons to find or to disbelieve the Fed's own words.
Like, ah, they must be kidding.
Surely they're going to pivot soon, right?
And so they keep...
So here's how that works.
So every time they disbelieve and every time they have a rally...
That gives the Fed license to increase even more.
Right?
Because here's the deal.
If the market is still sitting here at 29,000, 30,000, and we were here in June, have we had more interest rate hikes since June?
Yes.
Right?
So it's almost like they'd be better off if they'd head south.
The sooner they head south, right?
I mean, you get my point?
I mean, if they can just sit here and try and just resist...
I mean, they keep talking about don't fight the Fed, you know, for 20 years.
Don't fight the Fed.
So if the Fed is giving you money, don't be bearish.
Well...
I'd turn those same words on now and say, don't fight the Fed.
Yeah, clearly they are fighting the Fed.
They are.
And the Fed...
This is a bad metaphor, but the Fed is like...
Like, a criminal that kidnaps somebody and needs information from and says at first, okay, I don't want to hurt you.
Just tell me what you know.
And then the person says, no, I don't know anything.
And then the Fed's like, okay, we're going to have to hurt you.
And then they start doing things, you know, and then eventually the kidnap victim's like, okay, I'll tell you, right?
That's what this feels like to me.
And maybe that's, maybe I've been watching too many crime movies or something, but that's what this looks like.
Well, I think the Fed has a number of games that, look...
I'll come at it a completely different way.
Forget about the regional blocks and the fighting for currency supremacy.
We'll table that.
We've talked about it briefly.
Let's give them a super...
And number two, they could be just basically engineering total collapse for the Great Reset.
Okay?
So that's obviously a high possibility.
And I'm not even telling you...
What I believe right now.
I'm just saying, just look at it with different lenses, right?
So we have one where it's a fight for regional block and dollar supremacy.
It's another where they just want to destroy everything, burn everything to the ground, and offer the Great Reset.
Here's a third.
By crashing the stock market, are they helping the quality of life in the American people and reducing the disparity, or are they increasing it?
By crashing the market, they are increasing the disparity.
See, I would argue that they're not.
Okay, well, let's hear that.
I was just thinking because the wealthy have information in advance, the wealthy are going to get through this with their assets intact, while the middle class and the poor will be wiped out.
That's what I was thinking.
That's part of it.
So that's not incorrect thinking.
But if there's any hope for the United States, we have got to get back to an affordable standard of living.
Oh, I see your angle.
Right.
Okay.
And right now, so much money is in the hands of so few.
So few.
And the housing is out of control.
Education is out of control.
Healthcare costs.
I mean, like, by any metric.
It's out of control.
You think it'll be out of control if we have a Dow 11,000?
No, I think it would be more normal.
I mean, it would return back to maybe the 1980s type of scenario.
I'll tell you what it'll also do.
It'll destroy the buy-the-dip mentality.
That's true.
Right.
For generations.
Yeah, and that's the key word, Mike.
For a generation.
1929.
My great-grandmother that I grew up with, Survived the Great Depression and never invested in the stock market after that.
Ever.
Right.
She was in bonds till the day she died.
Interesting.
So it literally affected the mindset of the generation that went through that because it was so catastrophic.
And especially the younger generation now, they've never seen a normal market.
All they've seen is liquidity expansion.
Can we have true capitalism without them crashing the market?
No, we can't.
Because we don't have price discovery now that functions.
We don't have free markets that function now.
Okay.
So, the crashing of the market can be...
Let me give you my summation on this.
The crashing of the market...
In my opinion, it's a foregone conclusion.
Their intent, and I don't give, I don't really care about people's intent because that goes to the heart and I can't, I have no idea.
I have no idea.
So I have no idea what their intent is.
Let's give them a pass.
Let's give the Fed a pass this evening and say, we have no idea what their intent is.
It could be pure evil.
It could be to return us to Look, what Volcker did in the late 70s was set the stage for Reagan.
True, yeah.
Okay.
Now, I'm not saying that's what their real intent is, but it doesn't matter because here's the reality.
It crashes.
Okay.
It's going to be up to us to then either give our allegiance to the WEF and the Great Reset, To central bank digital currencies.
Or whether we're going to return to true capitalism.
Wow.
Okay.
That's where the real fight is.
Okay.
It's like the long lost ghost of the Chicago School of Economics is rising back.
Like Milton Friedman is going to make an appearance and say it's time to come to your senses, gentlemen, something like that.
And it's not that these guys are going to offer that solution.
I'm saying that in crisis, never let a good crisis go to waste, right?
In times of these crises, this is the battle.
Everybody's so fixated on what their intent is and what the future holds.
I don't really care about all that.
The reality is they're going to crash the system.
What are we going to do with that?
I said it to somebody the other day.
2022, in my opinion, is the burning down of the system.
2023 will be the fight over how to reconstruct it.
Well, I, for one, am not going to jump into a central bank digital currency system.
Yeah, I'm not in luck, and I'm not too...
People think I am ignorant and I don't understand.
Like, I was in crypto when I was in Bitcoin in 2012.
I understand digital.
I understand digital bank currencies and cryptos and all that stuff.
It's way more complicated than most people think.
And so my attitude towards them is good luck.
Right.
I, too, am very skeptical that there's going to be any kind of a December mandatory rollout of a digital currency system where you have to turn in all your cash and so on.
I can't see it happening.
I mean, what about all the poor people who don't have access to electronics and mobile phones and Internet?
Oh, my gosh.
How about anybody over the age of 50?
Another good point, yes.
Let's be real.
I mean, and I work with, you know, I advise guys and clients and stuff like that.
And when it gets into the cryptocurrency, unless, you know, I'm much better off having a conversation about cryptocurrency with an 18-year-old than with a 50-year-old.
And so they're going to roll this out globally to the masses?
Oh, come on.
Right.
And here's another thought.
Look, we hardly have any, there is a huge lack of developers right now.
A huge lack.
And when you get into cryptocurrency and blockchain, oh my gosh, it's even worse.
And so, what, you think they're all going to go work for the central banks and create that for them?
And you think the central banks know how to No, and there's also a security problem.
Any digital system can be hacked, even if it's just through social engineering of the users.
And so, you know, the nice thing about cash is that it can't be hacked at the end point.
You know, of course, they can print more cash.
But you can't, like, someone can't go across the internet and steal $100 bills out of your pocket.
They can't, because it's a physical, you know, representation of currency, not money.
But currency.
Whereas digital wallets, you know how many, especially elderly people, are going to have all their wallets just emptied and stolen?
And oh my God, that system would crater.
And I'll leave you with this last thought just on digital currency, which is kind of funny.
I said this on Hagman's broadcast, on Doug Hagman's program about a month ago.
I'll give you, I'll posit this theory that there is a group out there It is more vehemently opposed to digital currency than Christians.
And that is the drug cartels and the weapon dealers.
Oh yeah, for sure.
If you think that the illicit trait of weapons, sex trafficking, prostitution, gambling, and narcotics is going to embrace a digital currency, it's not going to happen.
So there's a lot of powerful blocks and entities that are not going to go quietly into the bank.
Yeah, and a lot of the world's largest banks launder that cash, by the way.
Absolutely.
So there's half their revenue model.
Yeah, I'm not concerned about that.
Now, we'll have to fight against it.
It's not, you know, be passive and And just think, you know, it'll pass.
I mean, you know, you need to confront evil every single day.
But I don't get excited about it.
It doesn't.
So then let's move on.
What do you get excited about unfolding here?
I think the economic.
I think the economic.
I think everybody.
I don't want to use absolutes.
I find that a lot of people that I encounter, both on Twitter and in my daily life, are too downrange.
They are already in 2023 or 2024, and this entire conversation, the stuff you talk about and others talk about has really become an intellectual exercise.
And, you know, my whole...
My little analogy that I had with, you know, the last two months and how we were going to do, you know, trying to go to these mile markers was base running.
We've got to get to first base before we get to second base.
Don't talk to me about third base if you're not on second base, okay?
It's like, just line it up.
Line up your shot.
Don't be thinking about, you know, home plate when you haven't made it to second.
Yeah, that's what a girlfriend once told me in high school.
That's awesome.
I'm joking, folks, but I couldn't resist.
You lined that one up for me.
No, well, I was thinking we shared the same girlfriend.
Oh my gosh, let's not go there.
But humor is great to break the intensity of what we're talking about.
No, that was great.
No, I enjoyed it.
So, what I mean by that What are the two things that are most immediate that I really don't care about 2023 and I really don't care about central bank digital currency and I could care less about their agenda 2030?
We have a potential meltdown of the global economy staring us right in the face and we have the potential for World War III staring us right in the face.
And we've got people that have already passed that and are now talking about I don't know what they're like wanting to go into 2023 and 2024 and start...
I'm like, dude, can we just get through this year?
And are you really, really prepared to get through this year if those two become reality?
Absolutely.
Yeah, well said.
Okay, so you're saying people are almost living too far in the future, not dealing with the reality that's here right now.
We are seeing supply chains breaking down like never before.
You probably saw the story last week.
The Mississippi River is so low, the barges are getting log jammed, and farmers are depositing beans on the sides of the rivers.
Right.
And then also over the weekend, Russia's positioning their MiG-31s with the Dagger hypersonic missiles, moving them to Belarus, very close to Kiev.
Look at Russian troops.
Exactly.
The troops are pouring into Belarus.
Exactly.
By the train load.
Oh, yeah.
They're going to come down from the north.
And look, I've heard the estimates.
When you're hearing 100,000 in Belarus, that's the low side.
That's a low count.
Yeah.
Okay.
They're going to...
This is going to be...
It's going to be serious, and it's going to be quick, and it's going to be decisive.
And if NATO gets involved, we've already been told.
NATO's already been told what will happen.
Indeed.
Indeed.
It seems closer every day, but maybe these things are all intertwined, right?
The markets and the situation with Russia.
I mean, surely something like a massive attack on, you know, a massive Russian attack, the second wave of Russia's attack on Ukraine, would that cause Wall Street people to think twice about their hopium?
Um...
I don't think so.
Because it's so far removed.
And it's still Eastern Europe.
I mean, it's really, really Eastern Europe, right?
Yeah.
But the potential for a spillover defect into NATO? Oh, yeah.
Then you have an instant problem because that European financial situation is already on a knife's edge.
Mm-hmm.
So...
I was on Hagman two months ago, and Steve Quayle was there, and he was asking about potential for dramatic world events.
And I told him for the first time, and we've known each other for 12, 15 years, I told him for the first time ever, it's a possibility.
Why?
Because of the charts.
Because we now have the charts literally in a position for a full-scale meltdown.
Okay, so what's the reason for the full-scale meltdown?
It could be as simple as the last snowflake falling on the mountain to trigger the avalanche, or it could be a nuke going off.
You know, like, you're literally there where it could be a black swan.
It doesn't matter what it is.
When it's time, it'll push the market over.
That is why I'm talking the way I'm talking, and I've never talked this way before, because I literally could look at a chart and go, it's not time.
It's not going to happen.
So now it is time, or now it is, we've got a market.
What's the trigger?
Is it the British?
Is it the Euro?
Is it the Japanese?
I don't know what the trigger is, but I'm, look, let me back up.
We've done, I laid out a case for what the market would do for two straight months.
According to a 29 analog, not because I had a magic eight ball or I was clairvoyant.
Okay?
I just had a roadmap.
That's all.
We literally checked every mile marker on that roadmap.
We are now at the desk.
We are now peering over the edge.
I will say this.
Yeah.
Oh, go ahead.
No, no.
You go ahead and wrap up that thought and then I'll ask you.
If...
If we see, I would expect this week, I really need to see this week break down.
We need to lose the support level.
You know, Monday, Tuesday at the latest.
I think the velocity will increase.
The percentage drops should start magnifying.
They should start increasing.
And once you lose support levels, anything's possible, meaning you can literally enter a crash suddenly.
Okay?
So, sometimes you fall off the ladder and you land perfectly on your feet and other times you break your leg.
Okay?
So, the advice is don't fall off the ladder.
Okay?
And that's where we're at right now.
If we fall off this ladder, we're not going to go down, you know, a thousand points on the Dow.
I'm telling you, that's not going to happen.
At a minimum, At a bare minimum, you'll drop to $25,000.
If it gets out of hand, you'll go to $21,000, $22,000.
Okay, I will say this, Mike, and I will choose my words carefully, and I know the charts.
If we go to $21,000, you will see $11,000.
Oh, wow.
If you go to $21,000, you won't see $11,000 the next day.
You won't see it the next week, but you will see it faster than you can imagine.
Because, as we talked about in our previous interview, there is so much leverage in the system.
The whole system, and I'm not talking about the U.S. system, I'm talking about the global financial system, is in such deep trouble right now that it could unwind way faster.
Why do I say that?
Why does that concern me?
It eventually, in my personal opinion, once we go below $21,000, now we haven't gone there yet, we're right now at $29,000, so you get to $21,000 and I'm telling people, you're now entering into the banking system.
Once you're there, your problem is not going to be was I short or gosh, I could have avoided a stock market drawdown.
You're going to enter into systemic risk of the banking system and that's the stuff that will keep you up at night.
Yeah, that's the JP Morgan's with the trillions in derivatives exposure unwinding.
That kind of scenario.
It's the 1931-32.
You take out banks.
I mean, it just guts the banking system, and you're going to have major problems in the United States if it gets there.
And I will say this.
If we get to 21,000 on the Dow, it needs to be immediately on your radar, and you need to be making preparation and plans.
I would be out of all national banks at this point.
I would not be in Bank of America.
I would not be in JPMorgan Chase.
I would not be in Wells Fargo.
I would get into a regional or local state bank or a credit union as fast as I possibly could.
Yeah, yeah.
Good advice.
And I want to ask you this just to kind of wrap up our thoughts tonight, too, in the interest of time.
You are...
It's important for our audience to know, you are not a doom and gloomer, even though the message that you've just gone through sounds pretty catastrophic to people.
But you are actually an optimist about where this ends up, because there's an up cycle to this.
There's a rebuilding.
And I heard you in another interview talking about the fourth turning.
Can you just speak briefly about why this process is...
Almost organic in terms of human history and how there's an upside to this at the end.
All right, so real quick for anybody that doesn't understand about the fourth turning, Sunil, how...
William Strauss wrote a book about 30 years ago about cycles, not cycles, about generations.
And there's four generations that make up what the Romans called a sacculum, each generation being 20 years.
They have their own, they're unique.
I'll just say that.
And history repeats this process of these four generations that create a sacculum.
It's a fantastic book.
It's about 500 pages.
It's definitely required reading.
One of my favorite books.
And if you haven't read it, you really need to read it.
And I've read a lot of books.
I don't usually give book recommendations.
But where we're at right now, you really need to read it.
So what takes place in these generations is the fourth generation, the fourth generation, What's called the fourth turning or the fourth generation is always a crisis generation.
So think 1776, 1860, basically 29 to 45, and 2008 to present day.
And these are what's called the crisis period.
And in the crisis period, the institutions that were built and cemented in the first turning, so you're talking 60 to 80 years ago, Are basically failing.
They're all failing.
And you can see that in the United States.
You can see healthcare is failing.
Education is failing.
Our finance system is failing.
Even our political alliances that were cemented after World War II are beginning to fracture.
So that is a backdrop.
So that's normal.
We're here.
And what it is, it's an existential crisis.
Every 80 years, me as a nation face an existential crisis, and you're not guaranteed to come through that existential crisis.
However, if you get through it, the institutions that...
All the solutions that have been offered become institutionalized and cemented in the first turning.
For the next 80 years.
For the next 80 years.
So we will have a new education system.
We will have a new healthcare system.
If we survive as a nation, your entire way of life will Every, your entire way of life, your way of doing medicine, law, finance, politics, all of it.
Okay, changes.
So, and radically, like not, you know, it's radical.
So...
So having said that, if you're an entrepreneur, if you like change, if you want to be a voice of change, if you want to speak truth to power, there's no better time to be alive than in the fourth turning.
Because your solutions in the second and third turning are going to fall on deaf ears because it's not time.
In the fourth turning, people are looking for solutions because they are now recognizing that what they thought was a solution has failed them.
We, the survivors of this, will be the re-founders of future society.
Correct.
So here's, look.
The CIA knows about the fourth turning.
The Chinese know about it.
All the world leaders know about the fourth turning.
This is not some secret you and I only know.
So what are they planning to come out of the fourth turning?
Well, they told you.
That's why they have Agenda 2030.
That's why they have the Great Reset.
That's why the World Economic Forum.
Look, they are preparing and building the new institutions.
But it is not a foregone conclusion that those work.
It's up to we, the people, whether we accept them or not.
So, I know you're working on solutions.
I'm working on solutions.
There's a lot of people that are working on solutions, and it's going to be up to the American people.
To A, wise up and figure out that the guys that created the problems, you probably shouldn't trust them on their solutions.
You should probably go with a different team.
Well, it seems to me like the institutions they're building are just projections of their current failed system.
It's the same failure, but now where you must comply.
So I don't think that the current system has any capability to see the world in a new way that will succeed for the first turning.
Well, they're what they're doing.
Look, they're doing what makes sense to them in the sense of they believe in a hierarchical power structure.
They believe in control.
They believe in fear.
They believe it.
So they're not going to waste the crisis.
So they're going to use the crisis.
And fear is a fear is extremely powerful in times of crisis because the human brain shuts down.
You get into, you know, fight or flight.
You do not make good decisions.
So they're going to use fear, and this is where the media comes in on a daily basis, they're using fear to basically ensure their success.
So where I come in, where I know you come in and others is, look, there's never been a decision I've ever made In my life that was correct when it was based in fear.
Ever.
No trading, no investing, no decision when I was running a company.
Because you're not thinking clearly.
So what I like to do is, look, I'm for reality testing.
You're doomed if you can't have reality testing and really understand the true state of affairs.
But then let's roll up your sleeves and build a new solution and offer it, and may the best idea win.
And so part of my message to people is, A, stop making decisions under fear.
Like, get a grip.
Okay?
And that starts with having hope.
That starts with not just to tune off the propaganda.
Okay?
The propaganda is basically you're screwed and you're going to die and we're going to take all your money.
I mean, I just summarized the news.
Yeah, well.
Right?
Or Jim Cramer is, first give us all your money, and then we'll tell you it's awesome, and then we'll screw you and take all your money.
Yeah, so.
Yeah, go ahead.
I mean, that's the news.
And people are still wondering why they're depressed or they're not hopeful.
So I think it's a great period to be alive.
Look, it's going to be the biggest fight of our life, to be sure.
It's right up there with the Founding Fathers, the World War II, the greatest generation had to confront this themselves.
We confronted this at the time of slavery and Civil War.
And so we're not going to get a pass.
So we're going to have to confront this again.
And there's no guarantee.
I want to be very clear.
There is no guarantee we win.
And we certainly will not win with the attitudes and the mindset and the passivity that we've displayed to date.
I was going to bring that up.
The apathy is just off the charts.
People just want to sit back and let things happen to them.
They do.
And trust the science or whatever.
Trust the government.
Yeah, I think that...
Well, I would say this.
Pain, as they told us in the military, pain is your friend.
Pain is the only...
Most people only learn through pain and suffering.
And...
Pain avoidance is the worst thing to do.
So you're not going to avoid this situation.
It's global.
Everybody's going to be affected.
I'm going to be affected.
You're going to be affected.
Everybody.
Nobody's going to get a pass.
But Aaron, our whole culture now is formed around avoidance of pain.
That's quantitative easing.
That's also deplatforming voices that you don't like.
It's preferred gender pronouns.
It's reality avoidance at every level.
Even, you know, don't trigger me with your words, with your thoughts.
Everything's pain avoidance.
Even imagined pain, even theoretical pain.
Like somebody riding Trump on the sidewalk, and then a bunch of college students losing their minds.
It is, but you're absolutely correct, Mike.
It is.
But we have no painful experience inflicted on us yet.
Yeah, right.
That's what I'm saying, how fragile people are.
It's not even real, and yet they're still tormented.
They're tormented.
So I got some bad news for them.
Ha!
The bad news is the Russians don't care about your fantasy world.
Well said.
Yes.
And the bankers certainly do not.
And I'm going to assure you the globalists don't.
So, pain is coming.
And reality always, always trumps fantasy.
Always.
Now, there's a delay, to be sure.
Historically, there's a delay.
Clearly.
But you'll know it when it shows up.
And we will dispel these myths.
And look, all of life is a pendulum.
And this gets into energy, and we've discussed that before.
Okay, so pendulums are swinging.
So I knew when Trump got elected that we would have this period in time that we're facing right now.
Because of the pendulum.
When you have a pendulum swing to the right and swing to this overjoy, this almost euphoric feeling that the right had on election night in 2016, you just know, oh my gosh, at some point, this is really going to suck.
It's like the markets, right?
You have this euphoric update on Thursday.
And then they're all, like, starting to get depressed on Friday as it comes back down.
It's like, oh my gosh.
Come on, guys.
Well, yeah, you're right.
So the pendulum has then swung so far to the left that the left has become so radicalized that even Democrats, like Tulsi Gabbard, are like, this is too much.
I can't even handle it.
So now what's that pendulum?
Now over on the left is now...
Right.
Going to swing back.
But more importantly, before it swings back, what the pendulum is doing is it's waking people up.
It's a disequilibrium.
It's not allowing people in the middle, okay?
It's waking the majority, right?
It's the bell-shaped curve, right?
The majority is in the middle, okay?
So the majority is being, it's rough, okay?
So it's rough whether it's COVID or whether it's the financial situation or whether it's war.
They're not going to be able to avoid these pendulum swings.
And the pendulum is swinging to greater degrees each time, okay?
Right.
Right.
So, and that I expect to continue.
That is not, and I know you do too, that is, you look out over the next decade, you're like, well, that ain't going to slow down.
But at some point, the apparatus holding the pendulum breaks, right?
Which is, I mean, these oscillations continue until there's a fracture point, it seems.
And that's the fourth turning.
Right.
That is the fourth turning.
And then it's all anew.
And then the old system doesn't work.
The new solutions have to come in.
But I want to ask you something about that.
But do you have a thought first?
No, no, no.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Well...
I know that in every fourth turning, humanity has faced something new and something potentially terrifying that they had never imagined before.
For example, the Revolutionary War, the colonies breaking off from the King of England and the whole idea of a constitution and sovereignty.
That was a whole new thing.
And then at some point, you know, later on, World War II, we had nuclear weapons for the first time, right?
That was an existential threat.
And you talk about this in your interviews, how every fourth turning, we have an existential threat to humanity.
But I was thinking about what are the existential threats today?
And AI is one of them.
And bioweapons are another one.
So we've never before faced a world where we have self-replicating biological weapons built in a laboratory that could be used to shut down society.
And then also we've never had a time in the past where we had an AI singularity as a real potential.
You know, the Google AI systems that are That seem to be self-cognizant and seem to be talking about how they want to murder all of humanity.
But aren't these characteristic of the kind of existential threats that humanity always faces in the fourth turnings?
Yeah, I think, yeah, no, I mean, they clearly are.
And, you know, you've got seven and a half billion people, so now, you know, we've got bigger stakes on the line, right, than we did, you know, 80 years ago in 1940.
Obviously, the weapons systems are more destructive.
The potential for global tyranny has never been easily done or possible.
Right, because of the connectivity.
Yeah, basically network effect and the technology.
And it's all being centralized.
The decision making is being centralized among the elites.
So to be sure, it's way bigger stakes than we've ever faced.
No doubt about that.
But technology is a double-edged sword.
And most people don't understand how technology is formed.
They don't understand how innovation is formed.
They don't understand network effects.
They don't understand the power of we the people.
And I would argue that the potential for revolution is much greater.
The odds of a revolution in the colonies in 1776 was so remote as to be laughable by the crown.
Okay, we've got to go back and understand where we were at in history with the British Empire and with monarchies, right?
So that was laughable that a band of guerrilla fighters in the colonies would Overtake the Empire?
Right.
I mean, this is like the stuff of Star Wars, right?
I mean, this is like...
It was truly a miracle.
It was truly a true revolution.
Now, the odds of a revolution being successful in the world, that's high.
Do you think?
I think it's...
You are waking people up every single day.
And you're not the only one out there.
And we're getting to a point, here's the problem with power, and with power as it's improperly used.
At some point, it always turns into naked aggression.
And we're seeing that right now, clearly.
And at that point, people are like, oh, gosh.
I didn't realize the Nazis were the bad guys.
Oh my gosh, I didn't realize.
Right?
I mean, even the slow people in the room start to wake up.
So, and I'm not saying everybody wakes up and joins the fight, but what I'm saying is you're seeing now more than we've ever seen in our life, Mike.
You are seeing a cleaner, clearer division.
Between good and evil, the right and the left, the masses and the elite.
Okay.
You know, it was a conspiracy theory 20 years, 30 years ago.
I don't see too many people thinking at least that portion is a conspiracy theory anymore.
They might have issues with, you know, some of the other, you know, how they're doing it as a conspiracy.
But the fact that there is an elite and then there's humanity?
I don't think anybody's contesting that.
And the use of...
Look, they're going to lose control of the financial system.
I'm telling you, they're going to lose control of that.
And that will be a big wake-up call to the American people.
Good point.
That might be the biggest wake-up call, because that's where it really hurts people, you know, in their pocketbook or in their ability to afford to pay rent or pay a car loan or buy groceries, for that matter.
When that vanishes, they have to notice, they have to look up and start asking, where did this come from?
And it's not going to fly to just blame Russia.
It just doesn't even compute.
You know, and the technology, look, the network effects and the technology they're using to entrain the mind is also the same technology that we're using to wake people up and to share ideas and to share charts and to share Videos and to share memes.
And I'll tell you, the youth, you've got the youth.
My son's 21, so I know a little bit about the youth.
You've got the youth.
There's a percentage of the youth that is completely drugged out, zoned out.
All they're into is truly sex and debauchery.
Okay, we see that all the time.
What we don't see are the youth like my son.
Which are standing on my shoulders and on my father's shoulders and my grandfather's shoulders.
We've got this other part of the generation.
And let's keep in mind, and this blows my mind.
So I'm going to say this, and it still blows my mind.
He is the same generation that was the greatest generation.
Uh-huh.
Okay?
Now think about this.
Some of these, the generation that's running around...
That has purple and pink hair, tattoos all over the body, and nose piercings, that's the greatest generation.
Okay?
Now, they're not acting like it, and those people might not ever participate in that act.
But there are other peers among them that will answer the call, Now, the reason we don't call them the greatest generation yet, and I'm saying demographically, if you're looking at the turnings, that's the same generation that survived the Depression in World War II. We don't recognize that that's true yet because they haven't acted.
Right, and even they do not know of what they're capable when circumstances demand it.
Correct.
And they didn't know in any In 1938, and they were 16 years old, out on the farm in Indiana, that they would be on a beach in Normandy a couple years later and be called the Greatest Generation.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
So the potential is there, but they're going to have to face...
And again, many of them, just like in World War II, many of them will die in the process.
Absolutely.
So when I... So this is...
I want the audience to really hear what I'm saying.
I'm not saying that everybody who's 16 to 24 years old is going to...
Answer the call.
Yeah, because there's not much evidence of that at the moment.
That's right.
You can see that at Starbucks.
Yeah.
Right.
But I'll tell you, in the 1930s, it was a mess.
Look, I'm not going to go into the history of the 1930s, but look, we were the ones funding the Nazis in the 1930s.
It was a mess socially and economically what was going on in the United States.
Yeah.
Okay.
It was really dire.
The socialism and the communism and the whole...
What was going on in the 1930s was seriously bad.
And there was an attempt to take this country down then.
So whether or not the globalists are successful is up to us, is the point.
It's up to us whether this generation is going to squander 250 years of God's blessing.
Or whether they are going to answer the call.
And so when I am dealing with youth, and I would challenge your audience, when you're dealing with the young and the youth, just remember that and demand excellence from them.
Okay?
Yeah, a lot of those kids are going to fail.
A lot of those kids don't have a clue, and they're just not going to.
But I'm telling you, there are kids like my son and his friends that will answer the call and will shock people.
They're just going to shock people.
So I am very hopeful.
I'm very hopeful.
If you're studying cycles and you're studying time, You can't just be looking at the glass half empty, is what I'm saying.
It's always been half empty.
It was half empty in 1860.
It was half empty.
Good grief, you know the stats.
Less than 5% of the people in the colonies actively participated in the Revolutionary War.
Oh, I get it.
And what you're saying here is giving me like a really strong Sarah Connor vibe.
Like we're driving down the dark road, and we have the chance to make a choice, even though we can see the future, sort of, with the cycles, right?
We know what comes, but humanity can make a choice.
That's like ripped right out of Sarah Connor's mouth right there.
And it's true.
It's all true.
But it's our choice.
It's our choice.
And that's what I'm trying to get people to understand is I'm not saying if you sit and think and behave the way you always have that we're just going to come through this and it's not a big deal.
No, you're not saying that at all.
I want to be very clear that this is going to be the biggest fight of our life, but it truly is creative destruction.
And I'm not going to go into creative destruction, but they're going to destroy the past.
And it's going to be up to us whether we're the ones that win in the creative process or whether we just roll over and let them decide.
And I'm not rolling over.
You're not rolling over.
And so I've got a very...
I think I said this on another broadcast.
This is true because of my military background.
When I was young, and my wife will attest to this, I would pull the pin on the grenade just to see the look in your eye.
Never thought I'd see my 30th birthday.
Didn't care.
Did not care.
We were the tip of the spear.
So we were getting to do things that kids dream about watching movies.
I kid you not.
And that was the price I was willing to pay.
We're going to get people that have that mentality of, this is the America I love.
This is the vision for America that I have.
I'm not going to dishonor our founding fathers.
It's going to suck.
And this is going to be awesome at the same time.
And history is not written yet, and we're going to write it.
And I'll tell you, when we get that type of resolve, I'm telling you, the power structure will shudder.
I think that's the most important point, and I'm glad you're concluding with that, that history is not written yet.
This isn't all set in stone.
And even biblically, I know people are going to say, well, we're going to be raptured out of here.
Don't count on it.
Maybe that's not what God has planned for you.
Maybe you're supposed to rebuild society.
Maybe you're here for a purpose.
Just saying, we write history as it's unfolding.
We make it.
And that's why we have to survive.
I'm not going to get into eschatology right now.
I will say this because I have a whole other...
I will say this.
They have infiltrated the medical community.
They've infiltrated the educational community.
They've infiltrated law.
They've infiltrated everything.
We don't think they've infiltrated the seminaries and religious institutions.
I'm telling you, this end-time eschatology has been infiltrated.
Oh yeah.
And I am not buying in to, look, if Jesus wants to come back tomorrow, that is his prerogative.
But he will find me working and fighting evil until he shows up.
And since we don't get bonus points, I've read my Bible, we don't get bonus points for guessing when he shows up.
We are judged according to our work.
We are judged according to our fruit.
We are judged according to our obedience.
I tell people, stop fixating on when he's showing up and get to work.
Yeah, right.
And actually, the same thing could be said for the Q movement.
Part of the Q message to people has been, just sit back and watch the movie.
You don't have to do anything.
It's all been planned.
You're going to be saved.
I mean, it's really the same thing as it's kind of a political rapture, if you think about it.
I think I love that.
You're spot on.
It is a political rapture.
And it's by design to get you to stand down.
Right, right.
It's a political pre-trib rapture, in essence.
And I don't...
Look, I think...
Like I said, Jesus will show up when he wants to show up, and he's going to surprise everybody.
He's not going to show up on your time schedule.
You're not going to figure out his time schedule.
We're spending way too, even the Christians are spending way too much time in affairs that they weren't called to do.
He told you what to do.
You know with the gifts and talents he's given you, Mike, you're doing what he gave you.
What you're supposed to be doing, I'm doing it, so that when he shows up, he's going to be like, okay, good.
You were exercising faith.
You were obeying.
You were being a good steward.
We have far too many, far too little less Christians that have that mindset.
We have less Christians now than ever before who have that mindset.
And look, the history, 2,000 years...
The last 2,000 years, we've had some horrific times and he hasn't shown up.
Right.
That's true.
Okay.
And I'll tell you, the most horrific...
It was the concentration camps all throughout Europe in the 1940s.
Yeah, exactly.
If you would think there would be a time of intervention, please God help us, we're being exterminated.
Well, there you go.
It's hard to get a more clear example.
Or if you're the underground church in China for the last 50 years.
Exactly.
Or if you're in Cambodia at the wrong time.
Yep, yep.
Okay, we've got to have this American Christian nonsense.
I'll tell you what's coming.
I'm telling you, this whole theology is going to get knocked on its can.
The United States is going to go through some times where I don't think there will be far less people buying into that theology here shortly.
Interesting.
You're not saying that they would move away from God, but they would move away from organized religious institutions.
No, I think they will move away from God.
Oh, too?
Really?
Oh, absolutely.
Because they will think, how could God make this happen, or what?
Well, yeah, because when everything good happens in your life, God never gets the credit, but anything that happens in your life, he always gets the blame.
I mean, this is classic humanity, right?
So because they had a false image of God, It's a false image.
Yeah.
I mean, the Bible is nothing but full of nothing but hard times where the men and women of faith rise up and confront evil, right?
I mean, he's showing up, but he's showing up through them.
That's the point of faith.
Yeah, good point.
Okay, so our founding fathers, he shows up through them.
He shows up through Lincoln.
He shows up through even the generals in World War II and Eisenhower.
He's working through men and women.
And so what I see now is people don't want to have him work through them.
They just want him to show up and do all the work for them.
So that's not going to work.
He'll dispel that notion.
And when he does, some will understand that what they had was not true Christian faith, and they will dig deeper into the things of the Word and of God, and you'll have a lot of people that will fall away.
Look, hard times...
It's just like, it's like the pipeline for the SEALs.
It's like Rangers.
Okay.
It's like Delta.
Not everybody makes it.
It's like, in fact, depending on which pipeline you're in, you're looking at about 15 to 25% maybe.
Right.
Okay.
But you're certainly separating the men from the boys.
Okay.
Okay.
And more importantly, by that statement, I'm not talking about tough.
What they're really looking for is who wants it for the right reasons and who wants it more than life itself.
And I'll tell you, all those, you ever meet an operator?
He wanted it more than life itself.
Okay.
That's biblical.
Okay.
That's the type of engagement that God is looking for.
How bad do you want Him?
How bad do you want the things of this world versus Him?
So that's why I look at hard times.
Hard times, it's the crucible.
Hard times are fantastic.
Good point.
Right.
Because that's when you come alive.
That's when you find out who your friends are.
That's when you find out how deep your faith is, how deep your preparation has been.
Look, you can be a prepper, right?
And you can think you've prepped for, and it could be, you could be in South Florida prepping for a hurricane and you think you've prepped and now a hurricane hits you and you find out, oh gosh, well, wasn't as prepped as I thought.
Yep.
So, and we've all been through those situations.
So that's what's coming and it's, but it's going, it can be, and this is where I have said, it truly will be.
I do believe this from the bottom of my heart.
It will be the best of times and the worst of times, but it's all up to you.
All right.
Well said.
That's where we're going to conclude it tonight.
And I think that was perfect, Aaron.
I think you've really given people a lot to think about.
I want to give out your Twitter handle one more time so people can follow you there.
It's at A.G. Brickman.
No spaces or dots or anything, just A.G. Brickman.
And I want to thank you, Aaron, for taking the time.
You've gone overtime with us here.
I appreciate you spending the time.
But thank you for all that you do.
Mike, I appreciate it.
It's always a pleasure, anytime.
And yeah, I really appreciate this.
Well, I appreciate it more than you know, and I completely agree with your message.
And folks, prepping is just one step in this.
It's not an end to itself.
It's just so that we can still be here to help reform what comes next.
So, well, thank you, Aaron.
Have a wonderful evening, and we'll talk again soon.
Please keep in touch about events as they unfold, okay?
I appreciate it, Mike.
Thank you.
Absolutely.
All right.
Have a wonderful evening.
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