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Aug. 18, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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David Avocado Wolfe interviews Mike Adams - food, freedom and the FUTURE for humanity
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Greetings, everybody.
David Avocado Wolf here.
I've got a really incredible guest, one of my oldest friends, actually, strangely in the world, Mr.
Mike Adams, the health ranger, naturalnews.com.
He's quite a pundit these days and has been dishing out some really epic content on his situation report.
So with no further ado, how are you, Mike Adams?
Wow, David.
I'm doing great.
I'm honored to join you.
You and I go way back.
I really honor your life's work, by the way.
You were at the leading edge of so much of what people have come to realize over the years.
And I drink an avocado cacao smoothie literally every day, and I've done so for over 15 years.
I wonder who's responsible for that.
I wonder.
That's fantastic.
It's really good to see you look great, and it's just wonderful to have you on the program.
Now, I told everybody, I was like, you know what, I'm going to reach out to my old friend Mike Adams.
He knows a lot about what's going on in Taiwan, probably more than anybody I know, and I do want to get into that.
But before we do that, I think maybe we'll take people back to how long we've known each other.
You know, we worked in the same grocery store all the way back in Columbia, Missouri, back in 1986.
Is that right?
I think it was a little, I think it was 88, 89 time frame, something around there.
Okay, yep.
It was the 80s, and the 80s were awesome.
We just didn't know it then.
Man, it was so good back then.
Life was so good.
And you worked for my Aunt Dee.
Yep, exactly.
And then one day, I think we were hanging out, and I was talking to you, and you're like, oh yeah, Columbia, Missouri, this time.
I was like, oh my god, that's you.
Here you come back into my life.
And we realized that we had known each other all the way back then, and My Aunt Dee, by the way, you know, she was a diehard Democrat and, you know, Planned Parenthood and the whole thing.
And so, you know, we clashed with, you know, myself and her family clashed on that particular point very intensely over the years.
But the divide has gotten much greater between the Democrats and the Republicans and even within the Republicans, because obviously the entire thing has been pulled so far to the left.
So I want to get your take on that.
What's your thoughts about politics today in America, where it's going?
And I want to hear what you think about what happened in Arizona last night.
Well, first of all, I want to say that I think the philosophy of yourself and myself and probably most of your listeners is that we don't care about political parties.
We care about principles for humanity.
And those principles have been interwoven throughout, for example, your life's work.
You know, how can you go from Someone who's all about organics and permaculture and non-GMO. But then you're also commenting on politics issues.
Well, what they have in common is that you are a pro-humanity person.
And it's not just the phrase, let's say, pro-life.
That's a subset of it.
We're talking about pro-cosmic living.
You know what I mean?
I know you know what I mean.
But for your audience...
We want everybody to be free.
We want everybody to be healthy, everybody to be abundant and awake and aware.
And the forces that are fighting against us want people to be asleep, deathly ill, suffering, diseased, and enslaved.
So those are the two parties, so to speak, or the two forces of the universe that we're involved in here.
Fighting the evil to allow the good to emerge.
Thank you for that.
That was so important.
I really appreciate the way you Characterized that because this is the core of it.
We fight for humanitarian principles.
We fight for healthy humanity.
We fight for a healthy world.
We fight for the environment, all of the above.
Now that today, interestingly, politically aligns us with people like Carrie Lake, who's really a person who's like, look, because this is what happens when you have a policy like the border policy under the Beijing Biden regime, for lack of a better term.
It collapses down into a humanitarian crisis, rapes, murders, human trafficking, sex trafficking.
But, oh no, we're giving opportunities to illegal immigrants.
So they cover it over with this nonsense of, oh, we're creating opportunity, when actually underneath it is a total humanitarian crisis.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
So all of these cover stories, for example, they demand tolerance no matter what.
Well, I'm not going to tolerate pedophilia and child grooming, right?
So we, of course, we are open-minded to lots of different approaches to life and philosophy and belief systems and It doesn't bother me if someone is a Christian, a Jew, a Muslim, a Sikh, whatever.
That's fine.
But we do not tolerate violence against children, genitalia mutilation, chemical castrations.
Because, see, I remember a time when I was marching at the anti-GMO march in Austin, Texas, many years ago, with mostly Democrats at the time.
I was in the march.
I spoke at the event.
And I remember a lot of the participants there saying, we can't have, you know, one toxic synthetic molecule in our blood because that's bad for us.
We have to have clean blood.
We have to have clean food.
But then now, so many of those same people are, but let's treat children with chemical castrators made by big pharma that might make them go blind.
And I'm like, where did you fall off the train on this thing?
Because I thought we were about clean living, you know?
That's so interesting.
I mean, isn't that something that really marks our time, is how there's a whole cadre, a whole group, a legion of people that we used to be aligned with that just went right off the deep end, right into Big Pharma's basket of toil and troubles.
Yep.
Well, exactly.
And the vaccines are, you know, the big issue of this, where, again, people who want to eat organic and non-GMO and avoid glyphosate, for example, other pesticides and herbicides, you know, I remember hearing them always say we have to have clean blood so that we have a clear mind and we have healthy bodies.
But then now...
Many of those people, the vast majority, are saying, but let's inject ourselves with mRNA with unknown genetic transformations and transfections.
Like, what?
Don't you do yoga?
Like, how do you do yoga and then go inject yourself?
I don't get it, man.
I don't get it.
It's driving me absolutely up the wall.
How does someone run a health food store, an organic health food store, demand masks, did VanMax vaccine passports, the whole thing, I was in the desert in California recently, and we just pulled off at a health food store.
We walk in there like, oh, mask, mask, mask.
I was like, you're still like, what?
She's like, no, no, you have to wear a mask.
I was like, we have to, for what?
It was just so crazy.
I was like, this is an organic store.
And then the whole thing of what you just said about the way that they take, you know, being open and suddenly it's like, suddenly they flip it into discrimination.
Well, we're open, but you have to be open in the way that we tell you to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And what you realize is that, you know, we didn't leave those principles.
You and I, we still have the exact same principles that we spoke about 15 years ago at some of your events, for example.
The exact same principles.
A lot of the people abandoned those principles and they became radicalized into embracing child mutilating vaccines, for example, that are untested, that are experimental and unsafe.
And, you know...
I'm sure I'll take some heat for it, but look, if you inject your five-year-old child with one of these mRNA vaccines, you are a bad parent.
You are an irresponsible person.
And you may kill your child and you may kill yourself and leave your child an orphan.
And you see, you know, this is my style of communication, as you know, these days.
I don't hold back.
I'm here to tell people the truth.
If you want to be a good parent, protect your child.
And a five-year-old has no risk of dying from COVID anyway, so what's the point of injecting them, even if it did work?
Good point.
And now we're seeing the insanity of essentially what I think occurs, and I think you're probably going to agree, of like, how did we get here?
It's big pharma taking over media and brainwashing, and it's been going on for a really long time.
I think we should have known back in the 90s when we saw only big pharma ads on television that trouble was ahead.
Yes.
Well, you know, it was 1997 that the FDA allowed, or I'm sorry, it was the FTC that allowed direct-to-consumer drug advertising.
Well, actually, I think it was a combination decision of the FDA and the FTC. But from that day, Big Pharma owned the media.
And what we just found out recently is that the CDC, through COVID, they worked in direct collusion with big tech, ordering big tech what kinds of speech to censor off of big tech platforms.
Now, David, as you know, that's a direct violation of the First Amendment.
The government can't collude with corporations to censor citizens That right there is fascism by definition Well, exactly.
And it's an obedience cult.
I was just on the phone a few minutes ago with Steve Kirsch.
And Steve Kirsch has been unable to publish surveys on Google, you know, the Google survey engine, because they don't like the questions that he's asking, which is, oh, do you know anybody who has suffered side effects after taking a vaccine?
Or do you know anybody who's had COVID or long COVID, things like that?
Google said, oh, you can't ask those questions.
Really?
Wow.
I'm excited to get into your brain a little bit about where this is all heading because I kind of have some ideas about where it's heading, but I think I want to start with what's happening right now and then I think we'll work our way there.
I think where we're at right now is that the Democrat Party has already surrendered to the CCP. That's the way I look at it.
Is that how you look at it?
What's your thoughts on that?
Yeah, absolutely.
And it's not limited to the Democrat Party.
There are a lot of Republican governors who are CCP payroll recipients.
And the rhino wing of the Republican Party is all sold out to the corporations.
So even if you look among Republicans, there are very, very few individuals who are going to challenge Big Pharma's dominance.
So, for example, in Florida, Governor Ron DeSantis is one of those individuals.
He's like, no, we're not going to mandate vaccines for children.
At least there's some limit.
Senator Rand Paul also asks a lot of very good questions.
He's been hounding Fauci for over a year, and rightly so.
And there are a few other members of Congress.
Charles Grassley, for example, in the Senate is asking some tough questions.
But it's fewer than about 10 people in Congress who are willing to challenge this.
That's so crazy.
It's insane.
The waters that we're in are very, very troubled waters.
Now, what do you make of this whole...
Nancy Pelosi, Nancy insider trading Pelosi, kind of a drunken maniac who's seen her city fall into slums and ruin.
What is this whole thing going on in Taiwan?
You know more about Taiwan than anybody I think I've ever known, and you have an inside track on it.
What's your thoughts?
Well, okay, just to establish background, I lived in Taiwan for two years.
My wife is from Taiwan and we maintain lots of contacts with lots of people in Taiwan.
So we get a lot of direct information and also we can translate directly any kind of documents coming out of China or the speeches of Chinese generals or the secret recordings and things like that.
I've also interviewed Dr.
Yen Limong and Jennifer Zhang, the whistleblower and so on.
Right, I've done a lot of research into this.
Now, it's a very complex situation, but from what it appears right now, the big, big picture, and we can get into details as you want, but it looks like China is practicing to carry out a full naval and air blockade of Taiwan at some point in the very near future.
This is going to have devastating impacts on the United States and the entire global supply chain.
So there's one corporation in Taiwan called the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corporation, and they have exclusive contracts for the two nanometer microchip manufacturing technology that feeds microchips to Apple.
So all the iPhones and Android devices for many of the top manufacturers, as well as circuitry that's used in United States military weapons, missile-guided systems, drones, and some of those circuits are used in renewable energy devices such as wind turbines and solar charge controllers and things like that.
Without Taiwan, the United States will Frankly, the supply chain will collapse.
And much the same is true for many European countries, as well as Japan, South Korea, and Australia.
So one of the reasons that China is not...
And by the way, interrupt me if you want to interject something here, but I'll just finish up this thought.
One of the reasons China has not blatantly just attacked Taiwan...
is because the backlash attack against China would be waged by a combination of Japan, India, South Korea, Australia now, in addition to the United States Navy.
And the U.S. Navy is quite powerful, despite all the shenanigans going on with the woke Pentagon.
The Navy is still very, very powerful and capable of defending Taiwan.
So that's kind of the summary.
I expect a naval blockade of Taiwan before the end of this year.
Wow.
So it's coming sooner.
I kind of feel like they're setting up for it.
I don't think China ever acts...
They don't seem to act emotionally.
Everything's very well calculated.
How long have they been calculating this maneuver that's coming up now or sometime in the next year or whenever we're going to see it?
What's your thoughts on that?
Well, frankly, China has been planning this for over two decades, but their timeline for this attack against the West was actually for the year 2035.
So they are being accelerated into this against their will.
And part of that, by the way, was Trump.
So Trump waged a very effective economic war against China with tariffs.
China was engaged in a lot of illegal trade dumping activity to try to dominate U.S. industry, dumping of solar panels, for example, and trying to bankrupt the U.S. Trump saw that Whatever you think about Trump, one of the effective things that he did was to attack China's economy, which This, in effect, really weakened China's ability to build more military might.
China is building aircraft carriers.
They actually have an aircraft carrier factory, and they just released another one recently that won't be combat ready for two more years, by the way, but it is seaworthy.
So they're sailing it around.
They can't fight with it yet.
A lot of bugs to work out.
China has been rushed into this by two factors.
One was Trump, but the second one is the Biden crime family.
So the Biden crime family is completely owned by China because of the blackmail they have on Hunter Biden.
And I probably don't have to tell you, but Hunter Biden's laptop is a goldmine of blackmail involving Chinese underage prostitutes, crack pipes, whatever.
Whatever craziness you can imagine, it's on that laptop.
So China's got all that.
Joe Biden's going to do whatever China wants.
And Joe Biden is about to be removed from office by the Democrats.
That's why Nancy Pelosi has just flown to Taiwan, because they're setting her up to look presidential and to actually take over.
They're going to bypass Kamala.
Actually, they're going to Kamala.
The plan on Democrats is Biden's going to be removed, either 25th Amendment or resignation.
Kamala will resign over old dirt from her California days.
She's super dirty.
And then Pelosi is going to take over the White House for some period of time.
That's what's being set up.
China wants to attack, blockade Taiwan or attack America while Joe Biden is in office, which means the clock is ticking rapidly.
China's running out of time.
So those are the factors at play.
OK, wow.
So let's talk about the semiconductor industry.
I've heard different numbers.
I've heard about two thirds of the entire semiconductor industry is produced in Taiwan.
Is that correct?
Is that roughly correct?
That sounds about right.
But but understand that there's there's sort of, you know, cheap old semiconductor technology, which is like five nanometer, 10 nanometer.
That's a lot more common all over the world.
But what Taiwan specializes in is that 2 nanometer tech that even Japan doesn't have yet.
Not at that scale.
What's the delta?
Let's say they blockaded Taiwan.
We couldn't get those chips.
What would be the circumstance for another, say, factory in Japan or in Honolulu or somewhere else to ramp up to produce that type of technology?
Is it possible within two years?
How long is that going to take?
It's about three to five years.
And the U.S. has met with Japan, by the way, to try to set up exactly that kind of factory.
I believe that they're expecting with funding that that factory could open in 2025.
So and usually these things are delayed, right?
So, you know, it's going to be longer.
But there are a lot of microchip factories in the United States, but they just don't function at that scale.
So what would happen is there'd have to be a lot of redesigning of...
Of the systems that use these.
So think about all the automobile manufacturers would have to go back to the drawing board, engage the electrical engineers, redesign control systems, or scrap the circuit boards.
Same thing with the military weapons and so on.
So it's a very big deal to not be able to get these microchips.
When I think about the Taiwanese people, and I think about the Taiwanese people I know and times I've been there, they're very freedom-loving people.
They're very capitalistic.
They've kind of kept half of Taiwan industrialized, the other half natural.
And they're beautiful people and just love their history and I love what they've done in the last 70 or 80 years.
Where do you think the people are on the ground in Taiwan?
Will they fight?
Are they going to fight door to door?
A full land invasion by China, what's going to happen?
Where is their strength?
Where's their will?
Are they going to blow up the Three Gorges Dam if China attacks?
What do you think is going to happen?
Well, thank you for asking, because I also really honor the Taiwanese people and their culture.
And again, I lived there, and I got to interact with so many amazing people.
They are freedom-loving people.
They are entrepreneurial.
I mean, they're really great at business.
And they are inventors.
They're engineers.
They know how to manufacture things.
They are committed to democracy, by the way.
Now, in terms of, of course, reunification with the mainland China, Taiwan is split.
So you have the KMT party, which is pro-Chinese reunification, and then you have the DPP party, which wants independence and nationalism, which is a good thing in this context.
So there is a pretty straight split along those lines, but what people have to realize is that when Chiang Kai-shek escaped the Communist Chinese and came to Taiwan and then essentially colonized, you could say, began to grow the new population of former mainland Chinese in Taiwan.
A lot of the Taiwan people, of course, left behind family in mainland China.
And those ties continue to this day.
So you talk to average people in Taipei or Taichung or other cities, they have family members, sometimes long lost uncles, aunts or great uncles or what have you.
And that's why so many people want reunification.
It's because they miss the family being split apart.
But they don't want to typically reunify under communism.
You see, that's the difference.
They would want to reunify under their own autonomous arrangement, but you saw how that worked out for Hong Kong.
Didn't work out at all.
China said, oh, you're going to be autonomous.
You're going to have your own legal system.
You're going to have freedom of speech.
And then a decade later, oh, we're just killing everybody that we don't like because it's communism.
Good luck.
So reunification is, in my opinion, a suicide mission for Taiwan.
Their only pathway to survival is independence and maintaining strong allies with Western nations.
Is Taiwan an armed nation?
Do people own guns in Taiwan?
What's their gun laws like?
Well, they don't have any kind of a Second Amendment, and normal citizens do not have firearms.
And it's easier for them to control that because it's an island.
So there are only certain vectors in and out.
They don't have, you know, a big open southern border like we have in the U.S. However...
Taiwan has its own criminal element, gangs and so on, and they are all armed.
Taiwan has, of course, its police forces, but they used to have mandatory military training for all young men.
It used to be two years training.
It's not exactly mandatory anymore because they have a lot of excuses to get out, and one of those excuses is to be overweight.
So part of what's happened to Taiwan over these couple of decades is they've slid into sort of a lot of processed junk food.
They've gotten away from their indigenous foods or traditional Chinese foods, which are very healthy.
And herbal systems as well.
Absolutely.
You go out and you eat a bowl of street noodles that's like beef noodle soup, for example, and it has star anise herb in it, which is anti-pandemic.
I mean, you're eating medicine all the time, but...
Now they're eating Pop-Tarts and whatever, so a lot of them are becoming obese.
The youth in Taiwan more and more are becoming really kind of apathetic, like a lot of American youth.
Frankly, they're not like the previous generations in terms of motivation or capabilities or body strength or anything.
So the truth is that Taiwan's standing army The full-time soldiers are very capable, but all the reserve young men, not that capable.
Frankly, they would need a lot of training to be functional.
When I think about Taiwan, obviously they have some kind of an army.
They have some kind of a navy.
How does this stand up against what China would...
Could you talk us through what a conflict could look like?
Say we roll around to December.
How many ships does Taiwan have to defend itself?
How many destroyers?
Do they have even a single aircraft carrier?
Do they have F-16s?
What's their defense look like and how would the U.S. play into that, do you think?
Yeah, okay.
Great question.
So Taiwan, their entire military strategy to defending against a Chinese invasion is a denial of access strategy.
So it's a lot of shore defenses.
It's a lot of mines in the Taiwan Straits because they realize that China has to make this massive crossing.
In order to land on the beaches of Taiwan, and there are not very many beaches.
Very few landing points, so they can be very heavily defended.
But I don't think China is going to wage a beaches of Normandy type of landing on Taiwan.
I don't think that's going to happen, ever.
And there are a couple of reasons.
Number one, Taiwan has medium-range missiles that can strike and destroy the Three Gorges Dam.
So if you can take out the Three Gorges Dam, you can take down the CCP. If China loses that dam, it is both an ecological disaster because there are something like 20 nuclear power plants downstream.
You could have a dozen Fukushima type of industrial accidents from that.
But also China would lose power and control over water for For irrigation, China's already in a very difficult famine situation.
They've had record flooding, and they've had to buy up grain from all over the world.
Not just rice, but corn and soy, and even to feed the animals that they eat.
In Chinese culture, they eat a lot of pork, by the way.
They're really into eating pork for some reason.
I don't eat pork at all.
I'm not Jewish.
I'm just like, nah, no thanks.
But they're all into it, so they have a lot of raw materials that go into pork.
But China has said to Taiwan, hey, if you take out the Three Gorges Dam, we're going to launch nuclear missiles and take out your cities with nukes.
So there's kind of a mutually assured agreement in place, or madness in place, so maybe that won't happen.
But you asked about the United States Navy.
So the U.S. Navy is fully capable of aiding Taiwan in defending against a Chinese invasion.
And the Navy has, of course, nuclear-capable submarines, aircraft carriers.
The U.S. Navy can project force.
They have carrier strike forces.
visit.
So Taiwan is quite capable of defending itself against an invasion with US help.
And the most likely scenario is going to be, again, a naval and air blockade of Taiwan while China attacks the United States to try to take down the USA.
Once the USA is taken down, Taiwan will surrender.
So China knows this.
They don't have to take Taiwan.
All they have to do is take down America.
That's their goal.
I've heard some of your podcasts.
And by the way, your situation reports are classic.
They are incredible.
And for everyone who wants to learn more, by the way, Mike Adams is the creator of Brighteon.com, and I'll leave all the links to track him down.
What's the best way for people to get your situation reports?
I track them down on Brighteon.
Is there a better way?
What's the best?
Well, yeah, thank you.
That's the best way.
That's where they go up first.
But I also do post on BitChute and Rumble, for example.
But Brighteon.com, my channel name is HRReport, which stands for Health Ranger Report.
And it's called the Situation Update.
And I put out five a week.
And...
In fact, I still need to record one tonight.
And no matter how long...
You are so committed to that situation update.
It's incredible.
I really appreciate your commitment to it.
And you lay these things out.
And I want you, if you could quickly...
I'm sorry to cut you off.
The strategy of China to invade the United States, that's something you get into in those reports.
If you could just lay that out for us quickly.
But go ahead.
Well...
Understand that China knows that the longer they delay the invasion, the weaker the United States gets.
So what's actually going on in the US right now, in my analysis, is that the Biden crime family is deliberately taking down the US. They're weakening the United States.
Vaccines were part of taking out military effectiveness, but there's something else happening here.
Russia and China are working together on the world stage.
When Russia attacked Ukraine, And the United States then committed to shipping thousands of anti-tank weapons systems and artillery systems and everything else over to the Ukraine theater of war.
That actually made China's eventual invasion of the United States far more likely to succeed from China's point of view.
Since then, we've seen very good analysis of how America has lost its industrial capacity to remanufacture artillery and anti-tank systems and ground-to-air, you know, anti-air systems and so on.
And one of the most shocking statistics that I've seen in this Is that, for example, we shipped Ukraine, the United States shipped Ukraine, something like 5,000 to 10,000 javelins.
And I believe right now the defense contractors, Raytheon primarily, can only manufacture fewer than 2,000 javelins a year.
So, in a war with Russia, we would blow through all those javelins in about two weeks.
So the entire United States military is utterly incapable of fighting off a land invasion by China if they were to land on the beaches of California.
Think about that.
Wow.
I already, when I think about Gavin Newsom in California, Oregon, and Washington State, and even British Columbia, there's so much of it that tells me that those Government officials have already surrendered to Communist China.
Give us your read on that, especially Gruesome Newsome.
I mean, he's just so in bed with the CCP, it's hard to even imagine how it could be worse.
It's really incredible.
You've described it accurately.
During COVID, there was a moment where Newsom approved $1 billion to be sent to an electric car company in China.
And you probably talked about this.
And it was supposed to be for PPE. So we were supposed to get a bunch of masks shipped to California.
Well, of course, those masks never showed up.
And then the media in California was ordered not to talk about it.
Don't ask questions about it.
The whole thing was just covered up.
So there's a billion dollars Just gone.
And Newsom sent it somewhere.
Now, you think he's not getting a 50% kickback on that?
This is a money laundering operation through the CCP. So Newsom uses the money.
This is what I've been told from other intelligence sources.
Newsom gets these massive kickbacks, like 50%.
Here's half a billion dollars.
Newsom uses the half a billion to pay off Everybody that needs to be paid off in the California legislature, in the California press, California law enforcement, you name it, everybody gets a piece.
It's run like a mafia mob organization, and China is the money laundering hub for all of that.
And the billion dollars, that was just one payment of many.
So the state of California rips off the taxpayers, launders billions of dollars through communist China to bribe California officials to maintain their power and tyranny over the people.
Well described.
When I hear that kind of money laundering operation, immediately I go, hmm, I wonder what's going on in the Ukraine with all those billions of dollars that are getting laundered over there.
Exactly the same thing.
It's exactly the same thing, right?
And so it's a crime and criminal mafia element.
The U.S. is obviously in a lot of trouble.
I don't know where to go from here.
I mean, I guess I would say one of the things that you are a master of is helping people to prep.
You are a prepper, and you're a patriot.
You say that on every one of your programs, and it resonates and rings in.
Having come from the state of Missouri, I'd love to get your thoughts on what's happening in the state of Missouri these days.
Things seem to be revving up kind of in the right way.
I've been looking at Missouri politics going, oh, this is good.
Oh, this is Eric Schmidt.
He's not going to let them come after our Second Amendment.
Oh, look at this.
What are your thoughts about prepping and the state of Missouri?
Well, let's first talk about the Midwest.
And yes, Missouri, Schmidt has been fantastic.
And I'm really glad he just won the primary there.
But, you know, there were a couple of good candidates there as well.
So, you know, Missouri is on a good path for a lot of reasons.
Illinois, on the other hand, is in a suicide cult of Democrat destroyers.
Illinois will be bankrupt.
I mean, it's already bankrupt, but it's going to hit...
It's going to hit the fan at some point here.
And what I predict is states like Illinois, New Jersey, New York, and California, as the mass exodus accelerates, those states are going to start trying to penalize people who sell their property and move out of state by trying to collect something like a 20% or 25% penalty for leaving.
Right?
So, oh, you want to sell your home in California and move to, you know, Austin, Texas or somewhere?
Guess what?
What have you sold your home for?
Let's say it's a million dollars, which isn't even a very fancy home in California anymore.
You got to pay the state quarter of a million just to leave.
That's what they're going to be doing.
Now, Kansas, interestingly, is becoming the abortion tourism destination for the Midwest.
There was a constitutional amendment that just failed in Kansas that was called the Value Them Both Amendment, which would have allowed the legislature to regulate abortion activities or set limits or set some kind of safety standards for abortion clinics, although maybe that seems contradictory, but some kind of medical standards.
Anyway, that was defeated.
So what's actually happening is people who live in Missouri are traveling to Kansas for abortions.
And the same thing with Oklahoma and Iowa and even Texas and Arkansas for that matter.
So Kansas is going the direction of California more and more, and Missouri is going the direction more like Texas.
So interesting how things are shaping up.
It is interesting how things are shaping up, and it's interesting that we both kind of migrated into Texas, which I find to be fascinating.
And I kind of see, and I guess we've got to get into this now, this thing's coming apart.
I just can't see how the federal government of the United States is going to hold these states in this union for the next 10 years.
I don't think we're making it through 10 years.
I don't think we can make it through another two years of the Beijing Biden administration.
What are your thoughts on state secession and where this thing could end up?
Well, I completely agree with you.
I think that there's going to be a national divorce one way or another.
It has already begun.
Actually, it began when Trump was in the White House.
There was a lot of nullification of immigration law enforcement by blue cities.
And in fact, some Democrat-controlled states declared themselves to be sanctuary states.
Well, you know what?
I mean, two can play that game.
So if the federal government passes, let's say, nationwide gun restrictions, Texas and Oklahoma and Indiana and whoever else can just say, well, we don't recognize that.
We're going to nullify those laws.
We're going to be a Second Amendment sanctuary state.
So, in fact, there are elements of this that are already happening.
So, for example...
Texas Governor Abbott, when they capture illegal immigrants crossing the border, again, illegally, and for the record, I'm not opposed to immigration when it's done legally.
My wife is an immigrant, but when it's illegal, that's a different story.
We all need to play in a fair manner and follow the rules and wait our turn and so on and qualify, by the way.
But Governor Abbott is essentially rounding them up and putting them on a bus and shipping them to Washington, D.C. So then Mayor Bowser in D.C., she freaks out and suddenly declares an emergency and says, we need the National Guard in D.C. because all these illegals are suddenly a problem.
And she condemns Governor Abbott.
How dare you send illegals to Washington, D.C.? I mean, does she hear herself?
We've been dealing with this problem every day for years.
This is the kind of thing that just boggles the mind.
It really does.
I don't understand what goes on inside the mind of these communists, socialists, leftists.
There seems to be no common sense or no ability to put it all together.
To me, it looks to me and I go, okay, these people are sociopathic.
A lot of them are psychopathic.
A lot of them are low IQ. A lot of them are low EQ. I think we're swimming in multiple generations of toxicity.
And the toxicity, as you know, I mean, it's from personal care products, laundry detergent, fabric softener, so toxic.
And half the food you buy at the grocery store is contaminated with the fabric softener chemicals from aisle seven, or, you know, what have you.
And, like, you can actually taste it on the grapes, right?
It's insane.
You've got the pesticides, the herbicides, the heavy metals, the chemtrails, the geoengineering.
And then on top of that, you have the hormone disruptors that are in the food plastics.
You got the sodium nitrite in the processed meat, you know, just on and on the fluoride in the water, you name it, and extra aluminum.
That seem to show up everywhere.
The water supply has lead in it because the infrastructure is crumbling in America and a lot of these pipes are just dissolving into the water supply.
You have copper poisoning also in the water.
Some people are driven to schizophrenia from excess copper intake.
You need some copper, but not too much.
Frankly, I think we're living in a cesspool of mass toxicity and poisoning.
And this is the beef I have actually with psychiatry.
So, you know, psychiatry, they typically, not everybody, but I mean, there is some holistic psychiatry out there.
But for the most part, mainstream psychiatrists, they just want to claim everything is a chemical imbalance in your brain.
And they want to drug your children and drug you and here, take these pills and those pills.
Hey, why not ask people, what are you eating?
What's your diet like?
What's in your pantry at home?
I mean, doesn't that make sense?
We should start there.
As you and I know, because we've been in the health field for so long in a real sensible way, it's like, unless we're addressing what people are eating every day, unless we're addressing the GMO foods, unless we're addressing the atrazine that's sprayed on everything as the number one contaminant in the water supply, unless we're addressing glyphosate, I mean, it's so crazy to just dump drugs into people on top of all of that poisoning It makes no sense.
And I think that's probably what has drawn you and I into the political arena over the years.
This problem is causing a catastrophic political and social problem.
And you can see the gender dysphoria.
That's atrazine, baby.
That's what that looks like to me.
Do you agree?
Yeah, 100%.
It's atrazine poisoning.
Atrazine is the second most common herbicide that's used in America today.
In fact, in our lab right now, we're finalizing an atrazine quantitation method.
And atrazine, we're able to go to the grocery store and buy pineapples and pineapple juice, and there's atrazine all over it.
For some reason, they use a lot of atrazine on pineapples.
I don't know why.
But there's certain types of foods where we know we're going to see certain types of things, like we're going to see a lot of glyphosate in lentils.
I don't know why, but they spray glyphosate all around lentils to dry them out or something.
But anyway, humanity is just mass poisoning the food supply and calling it progress.
This is not progress to poison more people and to have a larger and larger population of people who have, quote, food, but the food is poisoning them to the point of insanity.
That's not progress.
It makes no sense.
Whenever I think about the control mechanisms of this world, it's all about control, greed, and poisoning.
That's their whole thing.
At the highest level, control, greed, poisoning.
You always find those three together.
Let me just bring in, too, alkaline hydrolysis.
So this is the method that's been approved in over 20 states to dispose of dead people by flushing them into the sewage system for the city.
In the sewage system, and again, it's called alkaline hydrolysis, it uses lye and water, and they dissolve the bodies and literally just flush them down the drain.
So somebody can select that as a method of death?
Because normally I would think, okay, they're going to be either buried or they're going to be incinerated.
And burnt turned to ashes.
But there's another thing you're saying.
I haven't heard of this.
Alkaline hydrolysis.
Or as I've come to call it, flesh goo disposal.
Yeah, right.
But here's the craziest part.
This is turned into the biosolids slash biosludge that gets put onto the farms and the crops as, quote, free nitrogen fertilizer.
So you know biosludge in every major city in America is distributed on farms.
And the farmers aren't told the truth about what this is.
See, every sewage treatment plant in America has a problem.
Like, how do we get rid of all this sewage?
Oh, it keeps coming!
For some reason, people keep flushing.
So they have to dry it out and load it up on trucks.
And then they have representatives that go out to the farmers in the rural areas surrounding the cities and they say, hey, would you like free fertilizer?
Would you like free nitrogen?
And the farmers go, oh, okay, it's free.
Go ahead.
So they dump the bio sludge on the farms.
The bio sludge now in 20 states contains dead human flesh goo.
That's insane.
Right.
So this is cannibalism, David.
This is you're flushing the bodies of the dead to feed them to the living.
It's like right out of the matrix.
It's soylent green, hardcore.
Now, you're bringing up another issue that has been on both our minds, I'm sure, very intensely for quite a while now, which is what's going to happen to our cities?
And where is this going?
Because we can see that rural people are able to somehow maintain some sense of sanity, some sense of, you know, like reason and common sense of what's going on.
The city people tend to be drawn right into this whole Everyone wants to call it communism, socialism, democrat, whatever, idiocy.
It's all the same kind of stuff.
Where is this going?
And what's your take on this?
Because I'm sure you've thought about this very intensely.
You're right.
I have.
I even have an audiobook on it called Ghost World.
People can download that.
It's free.
It's ghostworld.co, by the way, if people want to check that out.
In my thinking, unless we change course, this could all change.
But I don't see the evidence that it's changing.
If we don't change course, the cities of America, especially the Democrat-controlled cities, will absolutely collapse into Mad Max type of scenarios.
We're already seeing the beginning stages of that.
We're seeing retailers just shut down stores all throughout Oregon, Seattle, Washington, and Los Angeles, San Francisco.
They're just pulling out even...
Boeing moved out of Seattle.
You've got Caterpillar that moved out of Illinois, by the way, to escape Chicago.
The cities are collapsing into lawlessness, drug use, Starbucks.
The Starbucks CEO recently, Schultz, I believe, he recently said, we have to shut down all these stores in California and Oregon because all these drug users are coming in and using the bathrooms and just leaving needles all over the place.
They're assaulting the employees.
So my predictions are no longer...
The future, it's here now.
It's just a question of spreading.
And it's going to spread.
These are going to be lawless, collapsed zones of drug addicts, prostitution, child trafficking, total lawlessness, and most importantly, No grocery stores.
Grocery stores are going to pull out because it's only going to take a couple of flash mobs looting all the meat and everything out of the grocery stores.
Those stores are going to shut down so fast.
They're going to move out.
And then you're going to have kind of like an escape from L.A. movie with Kurt Russell, that kind of thing.
It's going to get bad.
Wow.
You know, I keep coming then back to where we started this whole conversation, which is the breakdown of the moral fiber of America, the What was once a great Christian nation, which was once a great nation, right?
And this kind of a breakdown of the moral backbone has been intentional.
I think you know that, of course, for sure.
They've been trying to work it at every angle.
They try it with the scientism and replace the traditional Judeo-Christian Islamic belief systems of, you know, how this world is set up.
I'd love to get your take on that, because I think it's driven you, right?
What I do with that kind of moral breakdown of society, I go backwards in time, and I start to go, I need wisdom from the people who preceded us, you know, the great patriarchs of the Bible, for example.
Is that what's happening for you?
It seems like it is.
Well, absolutely.
Christianity provides a roadmap that can keep society sustainable and polite, by the way.
You know, the Ten Commandments, if you follow them, they actually work for society.
However...
What Christianity teaches is not the end of the great cosmic lessons for humanity.
And I think if we really want to understand the world and contribute to building a better civilization for humanity, we've got to understand that churches, especially these mega churches, these organized churches, are not on board with the Bible anymore.
You can go to church and, you know, I'm not saying all of them, but a lot of these big mega churches, they're all about just donations.
They won't teach the book of Revelation.
They won't teach end times at all.
And, you know, you go there, you listen to the sermon, you sing the songs, and then they feed you donuts and muffins.
I'm like, what is wrong with this picture?
That's full of pesticides, you know?
God doesn't want you to poison your body.
Why can't the church start with the basics?
That, frankly, are even Old Testament type of basics.
Like, take care of your body.
Your body is your temple, and so on.
So we've got to...
There needs to be a lot of reforms in the church as well.
I think you...
I suspect you would agree with that.
Absolutely.
I mean, it's just, you know, I eventually got to Rudolf Steiner's material, and Rudolf Steiner has this angle on Christ that when Christ was crucified and his blood hit the earth...
That's when the etheric body of Christ penetrated into the earth.
And in essence, what Steiner says is that this attack on the environment, this attack on our own bodies, all the chemicals, the atrazine, the glyphosate, the herbicides, the pesticides, the suicide, everything is all an attack on the body of Christ.
100%.
So when I see people in like a church and they're eating muffins or like cupcakes, I'm like, oh my God, what's going on here?
It's like no sense of organic No sense of original, like, let's get back to the earth in the original creation.
I love that idea of the original creation, the original intent of the creator.
It's a really good roadmap, helps you to align real quickly.
And there's just no sense of that.
So that's something every time I get, you know, sit down with a Christian leader, a Jewish leader, a Muslim leader, a Hindu leader, we go right to that.
We, like, cut it right to, like, we've got to get back to living off the earth without the chemicals.
Yeah.
That's the thing, is every world religion is rooted in elements of truth for humanity, and yet those elements have been abandoned by the popular expressions of those religions in popular society.
So, too many churches want to be Popular, instead of adhering to the lessons that they were taught.
Because, oh, we might lose members if we tell people to stop eating junk food.
Because, you know, that's the biggest draw to our Sunday church brunch is the junk food, you know?
And there's a compromise that, in my view, is just not acceptable.
That's why I'm a very spiritual person.
I'm a Christian.
I don't go to church.
I don't go to any church.
I'm not a member of any church.
And I'm afraid if I went to a church, I would not be able to help myself.
I would have to stand up and condemn them all for what they're eating.
I mean, so I'm not going to go do that because I don't want to mess up their little junk food parade.
But I'm sorry, that is not a temple, period.
Well said.
I feel exactly the same way.
It's interesting that our life path has driven us in exactly the same path.
Let's talk a little bit about the future for Mike Adams.
You're working so hard to help humanity.
It's incredible.
Your situation update, I can tell you're thinking about it all day and then you go in there and you record it.
You're really a hard worker.
You're committed to helping humanity.
Where does this go for you?
I know for me, for example, Let's say Texas secedes or something happens in this state.
Texas militia is not being fed junk food.
They're going to be fed real food from this state that's grown organically.
They're going to be fed superfoods.
They're going to be fed the best food ever.
Real herbalism.
And that's the hill I'll die on.
We're not going to have any more military or any protectors or anybody who's going to be watching anything or police or anything on the junk food train again.
That's the hill I'll die on.
What's the hill that you'll die on?
Well, you know, it's funny you should bring this up, and it's uncanny how aligned we are with what we want to do.
So since you last toured our facility, and you're welcome back, by the way, we have new machines that we were waiting on at the time, custom-designed machines that took about two years.
One of them is the size of a city bus.
I can't wait to show you this machine.
Oh, my God.
It builds.
You put in different ingredients in these different...
Large cylinders.
And it builds different instant type of camping foods.
It's all organic.
It's all lab tested.
It's all nitrogen packed and then vacuumed back out.
So it's vacuum sealed.
We have built this facility and this machine, in addition to all our other machines, you know, we run about 50,000 square feet.
I think you've seen most of it.
And we intend, and I mean, this is the first time I'm saying this publicly, but When Texas secedes, or however that looks, Civil War, whatever, we intend to make healthy, organic, clean food available to exactly what you just mentioned, the Texas National Guard, the Texas military, whatever it is.
We know that we will be stronger, we will be more resilient, our soldiers will be able to heal more quickly, be able to maintain cognitive function, alertness, which is important, Because they're going to be given vastly superior nutrition.
We intend to be a hub of nutrition for the future of Texas.
That's our goal.
That's incredible.
I feel so in alignment with that.
That's exactly the feelings that I'm feeling.
And I think we know.
It's just incredible how fate had brought us together.
And the similar mission, similar interest over all these years is really exceptional.
It speaks to something.
I'm really proud of you, by the way.
I just want to tell everybody, I got to tour your facility, and it's been a long time, been years since we'd seen each other.
What an awesome facility.
What an amazing thing you're doing.
I'm really proud of you, dude.
You're really doing good work.
Well, look, I appreciate that, but I just want to echo the same thing back to you and all of your life's work and how many people you influence.
And I also want to say, I think one of the things that you and I have both experienced in this is that The bigger your projects become, the smaller your own ego has to become in that picture.
And you realize you're just channeling some bigger divine message or intent.
It's like you and I, David, as people, frankly, we don't really matter in the big picture.
We're just being sort of given opportunities to serve life for a temporary period of time.
We're going to come and go, man.
I mean, life is short.
You know?
And then we're gone.
But during this time, if we can serve this true cosmic creation force, which is God and even beyond what people think of God, then that is an honor.
That's the greatest honor of all.
And, you know, even if the rest of society, which is rooted in Satanism and Luciferians, if they condemn what we say or what we do, you know, shame on them.
We're working on behalf of life and God and creation.
End of story.
Well said, man.
That was so good.
I felt that.
I felt that in my heart.
We work from the heart.
You work from the heart.
You're doing great work.
And we will persevere.
We will overcome.
And we will continue to create.
And we'll continue to support healthy lifestyles for people within our reach.
And that's such a beautiful mission that we share.
Thanks so much.
And I feel very honored, by the way, Mike Adams, that you spent some time with me here today.
I really appreciate that.
I'm honored to join you, David.
Keep up all the work you're doing.
Happy to join you again.
We'll get through this together.
Right on.
Thanks.
I'll come visit you at some point very soon.
I'm in the state of Texas right now.
I can't wait.
To everyone, I'm going to leave you all the links to Mike Adams' great resources.
Naturalnews.com, brighteon.com.
What was that one?
Ghost?
What was that reference you had?
Ghostworld.co.
But you can find all those audiobooks at the top of naturalnews.com.
Okay.
Fantastic.
I'll leave all the links for that.
Thanks so much, Mike Adams.
Have the best night ever.
You too.
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