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June 1, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Dr. Gaston has DECODED a vaccine exemption strategy that WORKS
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Welcome to the Health Ranger Report on Brighton.TV.
I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, and today we're about to be joined by Dr.
Gaston, who is an expert in health freedom and helping you protect your health freedom.
He joins us in studio near Austin, Texas.
To talk about the latest developments in how to assert your rights when someone else is trying to take them away because you are not agreeing to vaccine mandates or mask mandates or lockdown mandates.
We're living in a world of medical imprisonment.
And yet, there are solutions to escape that imprisonment and assert your own individual rights and sovereignty.
And that's what we're going to talk about today with Dr.
Gaston.
We'll give out his website, and you'll learn about the resources he has available for you to learn more and assert your rights to health freedom.
Stay with us.
We'll be right back with that interview and more right here on Brighton.tv.
All right, welcome back to Brighttown.tv, folks.
I'm Mike Adams, and today we're joined by Dr.
Gaston, and he has a powerful message to share with us today about health freedom and asserting our individual rights against a system of medical tyranny that has encroached upon our freedoms worldwide.
Dr.
Gaston, it's a pleasure to be able to speak with you today.
Welcome to the show.
Well, Mike, it's a pleasure for me to be here.
Thank you very much for having me over here.
Well, absolutely.
We've been wanting to do this for quite some time.
Indeed.
I'm very glad that you were able to travel and get here and do this.
So tell people a little bit about your background, where you're from, what you've been working on.
I've seen some of your work in the last couple of months.
I know it's progressed dramatically, but go ahead and give people a little background and lean in on the microphone here too, please.
Yes.
So, background.
I'm a medical doctor.
I grew up in medicine as a general surgeon who specialized in liver and pancreas surgery.
Twenty years into this path, and the more I learned about medicine, the more I started realizing there were other ways of doing things.
And I started broadening my perspectives into holistic and integrated medicine.
And natural medicines.
And the more I broaden, the more I started friction with the establishment.
And the more friction was there, the more enticed to move towards promotion of change.
The system is very sick.
Actually, it's pretty much done.
Done?
Yes.
You mean collapsing?
What do you mean?
Yes, yes.
The conventional medical system that we know, it's coming to an end.
And my impression is that it's already done.
Well, I'd like to ask you more about that for sure.
Your background is already intriguing.
You're trained as a surgeon, practicing surgeon.
You said pancreatic surgery?
Yes.
Was it mostly cancer surgery?
Mostly cancer surgery, yes.
I see.
So you were trained as basically a medical technician, right?
You know, to understand anatomy and the physiology and how to do things with your hands, right?
Yes, yes, yes.
And, you know, I'll quote one of my teachers, surgeon teachers, right?
And he always said the most important aspect of surgery is understanding indication because a monkey can do surgery.
I see.
So interpreting what you're seeing and doing.
Yes, yes.
But, yes, I was trained as a I like the way you're terming it, trained as a technician.
But then you went far beyond that, and I would imagine you started to ask questions such as, why are these people having these cancers?
What's behind this?
Are there inputs in lifestyle and choices that have led people to this moment where my hands are in their chest?
You know, those kinds of questions, right?
Yes, yes.
The path to become a medical doctor, the path then to become a surgeon, the path then to become an ultra-specialist, like what I did, is very involved, you know?
Yes.
It really absorbs you.
I mean, the first seven years of my kid's life, I missed it.
Wow.
So you have very little time to think.
Yet, and I listen to you a lot in your programs and you're a system thinker.
You see the dots, but you see the lines that connect them.
True.
You have this capacity, very broad, right?
And I kind of came to this world with same capacity gift, whatever you want to call it.
Yes.
Holistic thinking.
Yes.
And the more I progressed in my experience and my exposure, With the human experience, in that which relates to health and disease, the more I started realizing that I had been told I was given the pie, the whole pie.
And it became more and more evident that really what I had been given is a portion of the pie.
And most of the pie was missing in my education, in what medicine is supposed to be.
They were saying here, focus on this, learn how to do these things, but don't really pay attention to the big picture?
It's not stated like that.
So this is medicine.
This is all there is.
And they kind of brainwash you into thinking and keeping you busy and there's a lot of information you have to digest and you have to perform and you really don't have There's not much critical thinking.
I see.
And there's not much critical thinking in general in our educational system, in every aspect of our educational system.
I've heard that medical training, at least in America, is a system of weeding out disobedient thinkers.
You know, I wouldn't be surprised.
What I can talk from experience about the educational system in America is after I came here when I was already graduated from medical school and I came for my residency and training as a specialist, right?
And I would say yes.
In general, all systems that function within big business are geared towards weeding away dissonance.
Good point.
Yeah, I think that's true in politics.
It's true in finance.
It's true in academia.
In law.
Law, exactly.
In every aspect of academia.
Good point.
Every science.
Even geology, anthropology, you name it.
Astrophysics, right?
Yes.
This is what stars are.
Don't question it.
Yeah.
Oh, it's a very interesting phenomenon because, you know, all the...
The progression or the process of putting all the brains together, you know, to develop knowledge, right?
And it comes together and then it starts gathering momentum, right?
So an institution is born and more and more people and more and more significant Brain work and production and results.
But then it starts taking a life of its own.
And then it starts becoming more important, the life that institution has, than the actual reason why that institution was there in the first place.
Right, like the American Cancer Society.
It exists to make itself wealthy and powerful.
Right.
And so many others.
So then it's all about preserving the status quo, right?
And what does it bring funding to what we do?
What is respected by others?
What recognizes my position?
And, well, the evidence is showing me that things are going this way, but everybody's going that way.
And if I point to this way, well, I'm going to be marginalized, maybe not get money or whatever.
And we lose focus of the reason why we were there.
So when COVID came on the scene, Did this just reinforce your understanding that you weren't getting the whole picture?
Or what was the real breaking point for you from conventional medicine to where you are now, which we haven't fully explored.
We're going to get to that.
Right.
But was COVID the breaking point or was it earlier than that?
Way, way earlier.
I see.
Yeah, so the breaking point was finishing all my training, all my specialty training, all the big academic journey that took me all the big academic journey that took me many parts of the world presenting academic papers and all sorts of grandiose things.
glorious medical things until I went into practice.
And I'm originally from Argentina.
So when I came to the US, I came to, in my mind, with looking to the best possible education I could get.
And that's what brought me to the US. And I came with what is known as a J-1 visa.
It's the type of student visa that medical doctors get to train.
Yes.
So the J-1 visa has a limitation.
Seven years is the maximum.
And after you're done with your seven years, wherever you're at, there is a rule.
And I was getting to the very top of the beginning of my high academic career.
But there's a rule that says, after seven years, you have to go back to your country.
For two years before you can apply for something different.
So I'm faced with having to go back or look at what is known as a J1 waiver.
A J1 waiver is a way to waive that two-year rule back home.
So I say, okay, J1 waiver, you go work in an underserved area.
In America?
In America.
So where did you end up going?
Western Nebraska.
Western Nebraska?
Yes.
Sounds actually like a delightful place to me.
Gordon, Nebraska.
So the government said if you are willing to go be a doctor...
A GP? No, no, no.
A surgeon.
A surgeon.
Oh, okay.
In general, it's for general practitioners.
It's more common, the waivers.
But for some specialists, like a general surgeon, they are available.
So you did general surgery in, what was the town again?
My general surgery education was in Youngstown, Ohio.
Okay, but then you moved to western Nebraska.
To practice.
To practice.
From Youngstown, Ohio, I went to Seattle to do my fellowship in liver and pancreas surgery at the Virginia Mason Medical Center.
All sorts of big shots working there.
And I was very, very...
Interesting, in many aspects, part of my life.
But after I was done with that, either I went back home or I went...
I was ready to go to a big academic center, university center, to do pancreatic surgery.
So reality shows me a rural hospital in western Nebraska.
Now then, and what's the name of that town again?
Gordon.
Gordon.
Gordon, Nebraska.
Okay.
So in this town then, you were made a general surgeon?
Yes.
Wow.
So then you got to work on everything.
Did you do trauma surgery?
Whatever was needed.
Oh, wow.
I was the surgeon covering Gordon, four towns, Gordon-Chadron Alliance.
So it was about a 50-mile triangle in the Nebraska winters.
For a week, I was it.
Incredible.
So people would call you.
Drag, you had a bed at 3 in the morning for a chainsaw accident.
For whatever happened.
And on top of that, we were about 40 miles south of Pine Ridge.
The town of Pine Ridge, which is kind of the center of the Lakota Sioux Reservation of Pine Ridge, which I think is the biggest one of the Lakota nation.
And so they had a fantastic hospital, but totally understaffed.
So...
Rarely, if ever, they had a surgeon there and stuff.
So anything surgical would come to Gordon.
I see.
Okay.
That came to you.
Actually, you know, in Nebraska there's cowboys, there's Indians, and there's cows.
Mostly cows, right?
Yeah.
Because this is the Sandhills.
So Western Nebraska is different from the East.
So my patients were, you know, literally I helped Jim Sasse, who was the veterinarian, so I've helped in C-sections with cows.
But I would take care of the zoo or the cowboys in town.
No kidding.
Yes.
So this immersion into that culture must have been eye-opening.
Oh.
That was the breaking point for me.
No kidding.
Because there are several things that happened.
The very first lesson I get when I arrived there was humility, humbleness.
Because you are in a big academic environment.
You know your stuff.
You're supposed to be a big shot.
But you have 20 that are big shots like you, right there.
And they're looking over your shoulder, and you get into trouble, and somebody's going to come get you out.
You're talking about during your training, there were all these big shots and dazzling experts.
Right, and your training, you know, one of the things that happens is you progress.
You start as a junior, first year resident.
You know nothing about surgery.
You are very little...
And they start giving you tools and allowing you to progress, and you hold retractors for hours at the beginning, and eventually you start cutting, and you get to the point where you are the operating surgeon.
And the attending, your teacher, your senior is watching over you, or at times leaving you.
Just leaving you in the room by yourself.
And getting into trouble, that happens to everybody, there's always something or somebody that can get you up.
When you're in a small town, when you're in...
Either you know your limitations, or learn them fast, or you get burned in five minutes.
Absolutely.
So that was the first lesson for me.
Humility.
And when you talk about getting into trouble, you're talking about...
Well, a challenging situation where you have some bleeding from a vessel that was in the wrong place and was supposed to be there.
You make a mistake or you have to use the word that is forbidden in surgery, which is oops.
You can't say in an operating room that, right?
Right, and you don't know what kind of injuries people are coming in with, or they may have had a penetration with a tool.
I mean, you're talking about farming and ranching.
There's a lot of tools and tractor equipment and combines and things like that.
I'm sure you've seen your share of those kinds of accidents.
Yes, yes.
Gnarly, as we say in America.
Every case is a challenge, you know.
And you can approach it from the side, oh, nothing new here, I know everything, and get above your head, right?
Or the intelligent thing is, okay, you know, what do I know?
What are my limits?
Do I get here?
I mean, being humble versus always, versus arrogance.
Yeah.
Well, you've always struck me, by the way, as a very humble person.
You are very congenial.
You're very polite, even though you have a vast amount of knowledge and expertise that took decades to refine.
And yet you've never come across as an arrogant person.
You've been very easy to communicate with this entire time.
So thank you for that.
Thank you.
I mean, that's become an evident part.
I appreciate the recognition.
I think it's intelligent to behave in life that way.
Because, I mean, humbleness is not about playing yourself down.
No.
It's about knowing your limitations and acting accordingly.
Exactly.
So the opposite of humbleness is actually portraying yourself bigger than what you are.
And it's going to catch up with you at some point.
Oh, especially in surgery.
Especially in surgery.
Yeah.
Right, when someone's bleeding out and you're like, oh, I don't know what to do.
Yeah, and this extraordinary experience, you know, at the beginning I used to look down on the community doctors, right?
But when I started becoming a community doctor, because I was a big show author, or in the past to become a big show, academic show author, When I became a community doctor, I started realizing, well, this is where real medicine happens.
Uh-huh.
Right.
And this is where you're really, with no pretense, with no things to keep appearances, this is where the rubber hits the road.
It gives you appreciation for the old country doctors, too, that would go house to house, like house visits.
Ooh.
And they would have to deal with, you know, a woman giving birth over here and then a vehicle accident over there, back to back.
I had, I learned C-sections from the primary care doctor that was there in the town.
Yes.
Wow.
I was not trained in C-sections and, well, I had to do C-sections.
Uh-huh.
And I learned from the old primary care doctor there.
So are you saying that this experience in western Nebraska, this was a pivotal moment of change, of transformation for you?
Yes, and it wasn't just this experience.
There was a build-up, right?
Because how do we relate to the outside world and how do we gain knowledge for a big chunk of it?
So there's two ways.
Either we Experience and extrapolate that experience to the outside world, or we repeat, we copy that process done by somebody else.
So there are two ways of learning.
Through your own experience.
Or through someone else's experience that you adopt.
So there was a buildup of experiences that took me to start broadening my understanding of what it is to be human.
And one of the things I started realizing is that the biological equation that we are taught in medicine With only the elements that are given to us in medical school was actually a lot broader.
The experience was starting to show me that it was a lot broader than what I had been told.
So what do you mean?
You're saying from a holistic point of view of what goes into health?
Yes, for example.
Right.
I'm having somebody come to my office with belly pain and The direction from the referral point that patient needs an endoscopy, but I sit down and start engaging with the patient to find out, you know, what I'm going to see in the endoscopy.
Well, I start seeing a lot of layers behind that belly pain that have a lot to do with how the patient is at home, what emotional factors are, Are coming in, what their habits are, what they stand in life.
And the more thoughts and connections I started perceiving, the more I started realizing that the very mechanistic reductionist The perspective that is given in conventional medicine today is utterly insufficient to explain the human experience in health and disease.
Well, this is wonderful to hear you saying this, too, because this was part of the job of the old country doctors was to know the townspeople.
To know their habits.
Oh, this person abuses alcohol or this person rides bulls and injures himself or whatever.
This person is dealing with this stress.
And I think then that's what you're seeing is that all of these lifestyle factors create The presentation that you are seeing here, and that medicine can't just be a factory of a chart of this symptom treat this way.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Let's say that maybe a simple way of stating this, not wanting to see enough on oversimplification, but Any of us, at any given time in life, we're standing exactly where our feet took us.
So what I am expressing today, what I'm manifesting in my reality today, is the sum of every step I have taken to this point.
That's right.
And the biggest dissonant factor for me in the conventional medical model has been the idea that both disease and healing is an outside factor to the individual.
And this did not fit with the observed reality.
But doctors say this all the time, that someone comes in with type 2 diabetes They are typically sedentary in their lifestyle, typically very much overweight, eating a lot of refined sugars and so on.
And then the doctor says, there's nothing you could have done to prevent this.
And that's a lie.
Well, it's criminal to say something like that.
Right, right.
I think it's horrendous to say something like that.
Because it pushes it out to external factors.
You know, the other thing that's horrendous for doctors and uncommon for doctors to say is, oh, Mr.
Mike, this is what you need.
What, like a prescription or something or whatever?
Whatever.
Oh, I see.
Whatever.
I think that is a horrendous display of poor understanding of the human experience, disrespect for the other person, and hubris.
Yeah.
Because what I should state is, Mike, this is what I understand is going on with you right now.
And this is what I know that can help.
And that's it.
But from that statement to saying, this is what you need.
Whoa.
Right.
I mean, so many conventional doctors, they exploit their authority to push things on patients rather than empowering the patient.
Right?
So the patient.
But also, many patients demand this as well.
Patients come in and they present themselves in a doctor's office and they say, Oh, I'm not in charge of my body.
I'm just going to eat my ice cream and then you fix me, doctor, right?
So there's that attitude from patients as well, right?
Yeah.
One of the first observations.
You go building catchy phrases, right, as you go learning and kind of boiling down your understanding of situations.
What you're talking about, I use this phrase to describe it, and this was one of my first observations in my office on my own.
The question was always, okay, what brought you here?
The first question, you know?
Yeah.
And the most common answer was they.
Was what?
They.
They?
They told me to come and see you as a referral, blah, blah, blah.
So then who is they?
We're getting to that.
But the bottom line with this was the attitude I would perceive from patients in general was, Doctor, my body is not functioning well.
Here are the keys to my body.
Please fix it and call me when it's done.
Right.
Wake me up when you're done.
Yes.
And this is a deeply self-disempowering statement to make.
It is, well, I don't know what's going on, and I don't want to know.
I want somebody to fix it, and then let me know when it's fixed.
So I'm disempowering myself completely, which is kind of a tendency in the way humanity has been conditioned to Very true.
It's self-dissociation.
Yes.
Right?
Because you are the only one who inhabits your body.
No one is better qualified to know what's happening than yourself.
Correct.
You are the experience, you have the sensory input, and you have your own intuition.
And all of that, you're going to cut all that off and tell the doctor, you run the test, you figure it out, you fix it.
Now you're further illustrating what I said about the sin of saying this is what you need.
Because what you just described, no matter how good of a doctor I am, I will never have the full input of the information you carry.
That's right.
So I can never assume I know absolutely with certainty.
I mean, there are certain circumstances, particularly in emergencies, where, yes, the experienced doctor, but when we go into the fine areas of health and disease, now what you just said is fundamental for me to acknowledge it, to fully acknowledge it.
Never treat a patient like, oh, they're patients, they know nothing.
Right, right.
Especially like chronic fatigue syndrome.
Patient comes in, complains about fatigue, inability to sleep.
This is a complex issue.
Absolutely.
And you can't just throw pills at it or anything like that.
No.
And it may be psychosomatic as well, mind-body interactions.
Well, yes, and if we are going to stick to the concept of the duality, right, and the mind-body duality, because if we don't acknowledge the duality, Well, everything is, you know, psychosomatic.
I mean, there's energy in motion, right?
Emotion is energy in motion.
And we are energy.
So we are energy manifesting in this plane of existence.
So that process of manifestation goes taking form based on every aspect of who we are and what we're doing and what we want to do and whatever else defines us.
So in the context of one of the reasons I wanted to interview you, we've got to get to the health freedom aspects here and the masking and the vaccine mandates and so on.
But now I'm understanding even more the context of where you're coming from because you believe in patient empowerment.
The patient should be in charge of their medical decisions.
The patient should be informed.
And I would imagine that what you saw with COVID, what we all witnessed, was this overpowering order barking by not just doctors, but Fauci and the medical establishment to say, obey us or else.
Which is the opposite of what healing is supposed to be.
Exactly.
And, you know, on that attitude of patients, doctor, here's the key to my body, fixing.
Yeah.
That common tendency, the doctor that should know better gets drunk with the empowerment he or she is receiving with this disempowerment of the patient.
And, you know, the...
The etymology of the word doctor comes from the Latin docere.
And docere is to teach.
So a doctor is a teacher.
So a teacher empowers.
A teacher gives tools to a student.
We don't do that.
We do the opposite.
We like the power that we are receiving.
It is misplaced because it doesn't represent the reality of healing or disease for that matter.
But we like it.
So we take it.
And we even push further in disempowering the patient and creating dependency.
So that's how the system is built.
Yes, and the system demands conformity of treatment.
At least in Western medicine today, right?
So instead of having a decentralization of medical ideas and solutions that are localized to the specific challenges of people in local regions, you end up with a factory that's churning patients through it according to rules decided in Washington D.C. under Health and Human Services, rules that have nothing to do with reality often.
Yes.
And then they threaten doctors with prison For mislabeling a diagnosis and they accuse you of billing fraud.
Yes.
And they arrest doctors.
I mean, so the system is designed To perpetuate itself and grow more and more within the constraints of that equation that diseases and health is something that comes from the outside.
Uh-huh.
Exactly.
So it's a big dichotomy.
You know, this goes back to the mid-1800s.
This goes back to Pasteur and Bishop.
And the more I learn about medicine, the more I realize Bisham was right.
This is all about the terrain.
And the outside factor becomes irrelevant in the face of a healthy terrain, or almost irrelevant.
Yeah, it's interesting how the germ theory really shifted the approach to now chemical carpet bombing the body for everything.
But it fits the model we're discussing, right?
Because the germ theory is an outside factor that you have no control over.
But then they assign that even to depression, right?
They say, oh, it's a chemical imbalance.
In your brain, as if your brain chemistry is alien to you.
You have depression.
Versus you're depressed.
Right, right.
You have a diagnosis.
You listen to the commercials and you have depression.
Right.
It's this entity that came to you.
Yeah, I've described it that way as well.
For example, if Western medicine was applied to lawn care, then any time your lawn didn't have enough water in a drought and the grass turned brown, a doctor would come along and diagnose it as brown grass disease.
Exactly.
And then they would have a green paint medication.
Exactly.
To paint it green, say this is treatment.
And would go blade by blade, fixing and checking the different tones of green, and maybe the yellow, and yes, I mean, perfect.
But then anybody who said, wait, maybe it just needs water, Would be ostracized from the medical community.
Yeah, horrendous, horrendous.
Right, that's quackery.
How dare you suggest water.
Quackery.
Yes.
Right.
That's a perfect analogy of what's going on.
Yes.
Alright, so taking this now into health freedom.
Get us there.
This look at your background has been really fascinating.
But now, how do you use your knowledge and experience to help people today to assert their personal freedom against a system that is more powerful and more dangerous than ever before in human history?
Yes, we're facing a move from certain powers to thin the herd, to exterminate a significant amount of people, and the leftovers to have them under very strict control.
And the sanitary, the health aspect is the tool that's being used the most right now.
And the fear we have about being sick and about suffering and about dying and all these handicaps in the way we engage reality that are being masterfully used.
And one of the things is this freaky vaccine mandates that have been illegal from the beginning but have been pushed all over the place.
Well, the only thing you could do is, if you didn't want to get jabbed, is do a religious exemption or get a medical exemption.
And the medical exemption, the planning stage of these was very carefully drafted and anticipating these, the CDC put out a list of The freaky, weird conditions that are the accepted exemptions.
So there's a list of five, six things that, okay, if this is there, yeah, there's a contraindication.
But when you look at the definition of contraindication, actually the dictionary definition states a medical procedure inadvisable for a patient.
So there's two components, two main components to the equation and one connector, right?
Everything was focused on the patient side.
And what we were being told is that patient's conditions determine contraindication.
Suddenly, when I realized this, I said, no, well...
Procedure conditions can determine contraindication too.
And what evidence do we have right now?
Well, we have a mountain of evidence that these procedures are horrible.
Not only there's no clear indication for them, not only there's no clear convincing indication that what has been affecting humanity is this supposed virus, because the thing is so confusing and so based on flimsy elements that there's a long stretch to conclude that A
vaccine, or this is not really a vaccine, but a vaccine against this particular entity would be the answer for this.
And on top of that, the evidence that this is a very far-fetched conclusion, we have all the evidence that's coming out that these proposed procedures that are being called vaccines, anti-COVID vaccines, have horrible safety profile, And are ineffective.
Right, and that's come out in the Pfizer documentation.
It's plenty.
At this point, there's plenty of information.
So when you put all this together, I say, okay, well, this procedure is really a threat to your health.
So what I ended up doing is crafting a universal type medical exemption, which is signed individually for each person that comes in, but universal in the sense that I don't care what your state of health is.
I don't care if you are very sick or the healthiest person in the world.
If you do not want to explore this path of this job, of this procedure, I consider that this, my opinion, is that this is contraindicated for you.
And this assigns all the reasons why the contraindication is there are given and two pages of references supporting all the reasons.
Right.
So what you have been able to put together meticulously through many, many months, maybe a couple of years of research, is The justification for someone to demand an exemption from this experimental injection, laying out the reasons for that.
Well, yes.
I guess you're terming it correctly.
This is a tool.
No, you correct me if I didn't say it correctly.
No, no, no.
But this is a tool.
This is not the solution.
This is a tool that the person gets to be able to exercise his or her rights.
Right.
And this is what I provide.
It's a tool.
That you can use when somebody's bullying you into participating in an experiment and you don't want to participate.
And, well, this tool is useful for you to hold your ground.
Exactly.
That's a great way to describe it.
And so just to be clear, on a practical matter, those listening, they can go to you via your website, drcornulabat.com, correct?
Yes.
And they can request a personalized version of this exemption documentation.
Exactly.
I engage with each patient.
Yes.
And I generate that document for that person that asked for it.
And it has his name or her name and whatever identification is necessary there and my signature.
And so this is intended for people to, what, present to an employer that's trying to bully them into a vaccine?
To an employer that's trying to bully them.
I had about...
Almost two weeks ago, I had a call from one of my patients, a Colombian woman who It's actually in Austin, lives with her daughter and is working on her green card.
She wants to stay.
And went through the application.
And the last part of the application process to get the green card was going through the medical examination for immigration and the checking of all her vaccines.
Right.
Including COVID. So she didn't want to get the shot.
So she asked for an exemption.
I provide her the exemption.
So she goes to the immigration doctor with this.
The doctor checks it out.
Gets a copy of it, you know, for his records.
Gives back the document to the patient.
And well, whatever, whatever.
In the end, the doctor had to fill in the immigration form, put it in a sealed envelope.
And the patient then sends that to immigration.
So the doctor does not want to include the exemption, just marks that she did not get the COVID vaccine, but does not include the document that I signed for the patient, and gives us the sealed envelope, absolutely refuses to do that.
So the patient receives the sealed envelope, grabs the exemption, puts everything together, sends to immigration, and she received the green card.
Wow.
So I got another patient that works for the healthcare system as a sales rep for medical equipment.
So he's not only, he doesn't work in one, he works in many hospitals.
So each health system that he works for, he had to present this exemption.
Wow.
Yeah, he contacted me last week.
Actually, I still owe him that form because one of them was asking for this particular, because they have linked at work, the exemption with a disability.
That's a trick of the law of what's going on right now.
So there was a form that needed to be extra filled in by the doctor.
So I said, "Hey, have you presented this in other?" "Oh yeah, I presented all of them." "Did you go through?" "Yeah, it went fantastic." So it's working and it's working well.
I had another person that, no, in the job they said no, for whatever reason.
They actually, this particular patient, when they looked at it, they said, oh, this is political.
Okay.
And they went away for a week, and they called for a meeting, And they looked at it and said, we need to look at it again, and they went away, and three weeks later they said, no, we can't accept it.
Didn't give any reasons.
But, you know, employers have a lot of power in our system, right?
Sure.
And the recourse for that person is to sue the employer A lot of people acquiesce, right?
But if they decide to sue, this is a great tool to use.
Absolutely.
Right.
And just at the start, this tool tells your employer that you are informed and you are backed by research.
I mean, at least it pauses their strategy of just bulldozing everybody.
Yes.
To say, I'm not going to be bulldozed.
Very much so.
Boom.
Here's some evidence you should look at this.
Yeah.
And the model I have here was developed originally in Argentina because I have my matriculation in Argentina.
I came from medical school there, so I still have a way of practicing in Argentina.
So we launched it there in January.
And we went as far as setting up a website.
Where people come in, fill in the application on the website, that goes to the administrative side, I review the applications, each one of them, and approve them, and then the system alone sends the documents with my signature and with their names.
So I can do, you know, 50 to 100 an hour.
And I have actually done over 2,000 exemptions for Argentina and several Latin American countries and some Europeans, too.
Oh, wow.
And so is that site, that's the same as your site?
No, this is a different site.
Different site is in Spanish.
This is what I'm trying to build here.
Oh, okay.
In English.
In English, yeah.
It's ready.
I'm just still navigating the quirks with regulations.
I see.
Okay.
And trying to get attorneys to stop telling me what the safe is.
The thing to do is, because I know what the safe is to go hide in a hole, and it's been a huge challenge to find the razor's edge, to find exactly what the letter of the law says, and if there is no precedent to these, then good, there is no precedent, let's make one.
So you don't have that semi-automated site set up, but right now people in America can come to you directly through your website.
Well, they have to come to Texas, technically.
That's the issue.
They have to come to Texas.
Yes.
I mean, there has to be a consultation with me.
Okay, right.
And this is the area because what I want to accomplish is exactly what I've been doing in Argentina, which is a very streamlined, web-based system where the person applies through that.
I send a document through the system and it's free.
Everybody can apply for it, and I can churn out a lot.
And actually, I go as far, not only making it free, even though in our culture here it's not well regarded.
Free stuff is not well regarded.
Right.
Gives and Go campaign.
So anybody that feels that something of value needs to be paid for, fantastic.
Go to the application and go to the Gives and Go and donate.
So just to be clear from what you said, you don't necessarily charge for the service you're providing, but people It would be maybe spiritually correct to offer some donation to you so that you can continue to expand this work to help other people.
Exactly.
Let me expand a little more that.
You used the word spiritually.
This is free.
This cannot be charged.
This is something that humanity needs right now.
Now, there has to be a fair exchange always.
So I cannot charge for it.
But the donations are open because, you know, the exchange has to happen.
But money can never be a limiting factor for somebody to be able to access something like this.
And the other thing that's important on this is the template and even the web system, once I have it honed down, I am sharing it for free with all my colleagues.
Anybody that wants to adopt this, I'll wrap it up with a bow tie.
So other physicians practicing in other states, for example, could take this with your blessing and they could start writing exemptions for people?
You know, I'll share with them everything I know.
I'll help them out as much because the more of us that are doing this, the better.
I mean, right now things are cooling down with COVID and running out of steam.
They're actually not running out of steam.
But turning it down.
But there's another one coming.
There's another one coming, no question.
And we need to be prepared.
And that's the one where they're going to say, you have no choice, you must obey, because look at these people bleeding out from hemorrhagic fever or whatever they come up with, right?
Yes.
You can already tell CNN is going to have people bleeding all over the TV and they're going to say, see, this is why you have to obey.
But we're not prepared for that.
As activists, We're not there yet.
No, we're not.
We're green.
The Argentina experience was fantastic.
What I just described here is what we applied in Argentina, and I came January 14th with a video that went viral.
Very aggressive.
Very assertive.
More than aggressive.
Well, it's a little aggressive, too.
Because there were circumstances that pushed this agenda for us.
So I went out to the public.
Things went viral.
And I said, Canizia Libre, which is open bar.
You know, exceptions for anybody that wants.
And invited all my colleagues, giving it for free to all of them to implement.
Well, less than a handful of doctors contacted me, and I don't know if anybody else in the Latin American countries that has adopted the system and has gone public saying, you know, exemptions for everybody.
Well...
Doctors everywhere are terrified of losing their medical licenses, and that's part of the tyranny of centralized control.
Exactly.
This is how they have even banned ivermectin.
This is how they have forced people onto ventilators and hospitals in the United States.
The doctors are terrified.
Exactly.
You know, but it's interesting because the fear is just a perception, right?
It's just a build-up perception that's not real.
It's not based on...
It's happening, okay?
But it shouldn't happen.
There's one thing, for example, the exemption conceptually is based on medical professional opinion.
That's the core.
As a medical doctor, I have a constitutional right, and more than a right, I have an obligation to have an independent opinion.
And this has been upheld by the US Supreme Court numerous times.
Yes.
So I not only have the right, I have the moral obligation of having an independent opinion.
And yet, the movement in medicine has been everything about boiling it down to standards of care.
Which is the centralized system telling you what to do.
But it's even worse.
The World Health Organization so-called treaty is about to be signed soon that would place every nation's laws under the authority of the WHO. And the WHO, in my view, is a criminal organization that grossly Misrepresented what was happening with COVID. The WHO answered to China more than anybody else in the world.
And the WHO is largely controlled by the pharmaceutical giants.
It's an entity that has the conflict of interest it has are so humongous.
They don't fit in their building.
And sure, you bring up a very important point because, you know, Putin invades Ukraine.
Five days later, March 1st, ministries of health of the most important countries are meeting in Switzerland to start drafting this disagreement.
So we're all busy with Ukraine and flags and Putin and...
And the undermining, the systematic undermining of our individual rights to replace them with this idea of the common or communal good over the individual, the very core of communism.
It's being filtered in and we should all be screaming For that not to happen.
Well, and Fauci came out the other day and said that he thought the courts should not be able to overrule the CDC. And that's what the WHO and Fauci and the CDC, they want total power with no checks and balances.
They want to be, well, medical dictators over the world, the rulers of the world.
And in order to rule at any time, all they have to do is pretend there's an outbreak somewhere.
That's all they have to do.
Roll out PCR swabs.
If you swab enough people and you crank up the PCR enough, you're going to find anything you want.
We know how easy it is to build up the perception of a pandemic, right?
Yeah, yeah, right.
And so...
Then the media, you know, elevates the fear factor, but they can control the world through endless epidemics once they have that power.
Exactly, exactly.
And this is going to be on us, medical doctors.
This is definitely going to be on us.
If it happens, it's going to be on us.
Because we have the power to stop this.
Not only do we have the power, we have the moral obligation to stop this.
But there are few doctors like you who are seeing the intricacies of all of this and are taking a stand and actually trying to help individuals.
Very few.
Yes, there are few, but the number is growing.
I see.
The number is growing and it's going to keep growing.
I'm a firm believer that the system is on the verge of going away, of disappearing.
It's done.
That's interesting because If we think about what would a system of medicine look like if it served the people rather than the corporate interests, we may have an opportunity to build that system soon.
Yes.
Part of the work I do, the core of the work I do as a medical doctor is education.
Is what?
Education.
Education, which is the promotion of empowerment and self-dependence.
This is the core of what I've been doing for the last 15 years.
And this idea that us doctors working so that we are not needed one day, even if that's far away, but in principle, Engaging always so that they don't need us anymore.
This is the way out for the system.
And we certainly would be creating a system that's several orders of magnitude more cheap and cost-effective.
Right, right.
In America...
Yeah, we have the most expensive medical system in the world.
Something like 20 plus percent of the GDP is spent on what I would call sick care without really any education of patients of how to take care of their own health and prevent chronic degenerative disease and so on.
If you don't believe me, just go to the grocery store and look at what's in the cart of the person behind you in line and you realize...
We're going to have a lot of disease because look at what people are choosing to eat.
Yes.
And they need to be educated because of what you're doing.
But I want to, in just the few minutes that we have left here, I want to reiterate on a practical note, people who are searching for exemption documentation can go to your website.
Yes.
There is an issue one.
Yeah.
Medical exemption at...
Protonmail?
No, no, no.
At gcornoulabat.com.
Gcornoulabat.com?
Yes.
G? G, Gaston.
Oh, okay.
So the letter G, cornulabat.com.
Yes.
And what's the beginning part again?
Medical exemption?
Medical exemption.
So they can email you.
Yes.
Okay.
And this is in the website.
Oh, okay.
So maybe the easiest way is to go to the website, and when you go into medical exemption, you know, in the menu, this information.
Because right now I'm gathering all the information because this is an evolving system.
And I want to make it as easy as I can for people.
Absolutely.
So whatever needs to be done right away, I'll address it right away.
The people that have a little bit of room, once the system is already built, then we'll go.
But you said earlier people need to come to Texas.
With all the remote medicine that exists these days.
Yeah, but it's regulated.
It's regulated.
Yes.
And the thing is that for the medical system in general terms, right, and this is what we're working with attorneys in trying to dissect.
But as a general rule, the patient's location determines license jurisdiction.
Right, okay.
So you're in New Hampshire, well I need to be, if I'm going to take care of you, I need to be licensed in New Hampshire.
If your patient comes to see me in Texas, then your location is Texas, then my license in Texas is okay.
What about somebody in West Texas?
Do they need to come see you in person or could you do remote medicine?
Right.
We can do remote.
As long as they're in Texas.
Well, Texas is a pretty big state.
Yes.
If you've driven across it, you know.
Bigger than most European countries, of course, by far.
And there's a lot of people in Texas who can take advantage of this.
I'm just thinking about all the states.
Anybody can come, right?
That's true.
Anybody can come.
Come visit Texas, and while you're here, just move here.
Because, I mean...
It is happening.
It is happening.
Everybody's moving to Texas.
But it's the people in states like California or New York that need exemptions the most because that's where it's the most onerous requirements by employers and government.
How many cities, for example, New York City requiring vaccine mandates of all their city employees, which makes me wonder, how are you going to run your city when some significant percentage of those people expire in the next decade?
How are you going to run New York City?
And the answer is, well, they're not.
It's going to collapse like Seattle and San Francisco are collapsing.
But that's a different conversation.
Yes.
Well, it's fascinating what you're doing, and not only I appreciate it, I know that our listeners appreciate what you're doing.
And I'm thinking, you know, how can you keep us updated about all of this?
I mean, are you going to update your documents?
Are you going to maybe have some better website tools coming out later this year?
Yes, yes.
This is going to be happening.
I'll be finishing resolving these in the next two, three weeks.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Four at the most.
I mean, it's not only what I push, but, you know, how others respond, unfortunately, when things depend on others.
Okay.
I'm really looking forward to other things.
To colleagues contacting me.
Are you going to be in the central Texas area?
Yes.
Marble Falls is where I'm looking to settle.
So is that west of Austin?
Yes, west and a little north.
Horseshoe Bay, you heard about Horseshoe Bay?
No, I'm not familiar with that.
But I know Marble Falls.
Yes.
There's a really nice quarry out there, which is where it gets its name.
Yes.
Okay, so that's great.
So you're in kind of the Austin area.
Exactly.
Because I'd like to say, frankly, as we get our studio fully operating here, when available as these issues reveal themselves, I'd love to invite you in as a medical expert for commentary on the next outbreak as it happens, things like that.
As long as, you know, it's convenient for you.
I don't want you to have to travel hours and hours to get here.
No, no, but I think it's very important that the word gets out.
It's very important that people get informed.
It's very important that we start being able to have opposing views, to be able to have discernment.
Absolutely.
To be able to have critical thinking.
So if in the process of supporting these I have to travel for a few hours.
I'll do it and no problem at all.
Okay.
Because I think there's a larger cause behind what we're doing.
Yeah, there is.
That needs to be attended.
And I think that people like you have a very critical role to play in the rebuilding of the medical system.
Yes.
And the principles.
We need a medical constitution.
Yes.
To be written.
Yes.
We need a medical bill of rights.
Mm-hmm.
And out of this experience that we're all sharing to our horror in many cases, there's no doubt that this is going to be on people's minds to establish a medical bill of rights that shouldn't be just America.
It should be a global bill of rights.
Yes.
And sovereignty.
I mean, the essence, healing is something that comes from within.
It's never something that's given from the outside.
That's right.
It doesn't work.
Well, yeah, and people are seeing that now with these so-called COVID vaccines.
Yes.
They do not work.
They actually increase your risk of death.
Well, you see it with cancer and all the treatments in conventional medicine.
You see it with all the medications that are used to manage disease.
Yeah.
But rarely, if ever, to cure.
Or to prevent.
Or to prevent.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
And this is the...
The principle in which I base my understanding that the system is already done, because it's based on a false premise.
That's right.
On a fallacy.
Yeah.
And the one thing that we never heard before is now the media and many channels, they are calling doctors murderers.
This has no precedent.
This has never happened.
Well, I've called conventional doctors murderers myself, right?
But I'm also careful to say there are people trained in that system who've become complementary medicine, alternative medicine, holistic medicine, right?
That's critical.
I come from...
When I was growing up, I mean, my mother...
She was in medicine.
She's a registered nurse.
And many of the adult friends, friends of the family, were doctors.
So I grew up around a lot of doctors, around a lot of medicine, actually.
And, you know, they're wonderful people.
But it's the system that can turn a good guy into a murderer if they're not willing to step back and say, whoa, what am I doing?
Yeah, and I think in many instances with what's going on right now, the term is well used.
It's being well used.
It's horrendous what's happening in hospitals right now.
This is my opinion, and I'm entitled to my opinion.
I'm just letting the medical boards know about it.
Indeed, you are entitled to your opinion, and your opinion is becoming increasingly recognized, by the way, by other doctors as well.
Well, we're out of time for this conversation today, Dr.
Gaston.
I want to give out your website one more time.
It's drcornulabat.com, and it's d-r-c-o-r-n-u-l-a-b-a-t.com.
I got that right?
Yes.
Okay, great.
Is there any other social media channel or anything you want to give out?
A video channel?
No, not yet.
All right.
Well, we welcome you back.
We honor what you're doing.
We applaud your courage and also your compassion for fellow human beings.
And I hope to be able to speak with you again.
And I hope that we're both wrong about the next pandemic, but I'm afraid we're correct about it.
Wrong or correct, let's be ready.
Let's be ready.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, well said.
God bless you, Dr.
Gaston.
Thank you for being here today.
God bless you too, Mike.
Thank you for having me and keep up the great work you're doing.
Well, thank you.
And for those of you listening, feel free to repost this interview on other channels or other platforms as well because we want to spread the word as widely as possible.
We'll have Dr.
Gaston back in the near future to comment on health and medical related issues as well.
So, thank you for joining us today.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Breitian.com and you can find more interviews and podcasts at my channel, hrreport, on brighteon.com.
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