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May 24, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Harrison Smith from The American Journal interviewed by Mike Adams on liberty, journalism and censor
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Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
Today I'm joined by a really special guest, first time that we've had him on our show, but you probably have heard of him, Harrison Smith.
He's the host of American Journal, and sometimes he fills in for O. Schroer and Alex Jones and so on over at Infowars.com.
So he joins us today to talk about the insanity in the world.
What's going on with these, not just the COVID boosters and the lockdowns, but mass formation psychosis.
He was talking about that on his show earlier.
We're going to ask him questions because he reads the news.
He does the research.
He interviews guests.
So he's got a really high level, 50,000 foot view of what's going on in the world.
Plus, he's in the InfoWars studios every single day.
So he's hearing the tips and the buzz and the guests and everything.
So he's got a lot of information to share with us.
We'll be right back with Harrison Smith right here on the Health Ranger Report on Brighteon.tv.
Stay with us.
We'll be right back after this break.
All right, welcome back, folks.
Mike Adams here, joined now by Harrison Smith of InfoWars.com and American Journal, which airs 8 a.m.
to 11 a.m.
Central Monday through Friday.
Harrison, welcome to the show.
It's an honor to have you on.
Well, it's an honor to be here, and thank you so much for that very kind introduction.
I really appreciate it.
Well, actually, I haven't even said the good part yet.
Good!
Look, I'm a fan of your show.
See, the way it works, because your show is early, so it just happens that when I'm making smoothies in the morning, your show is getting posted on Brighteon and other platforms.
So your show is the first show that I get to hear each day as I'm making my smoothies, which is...
I'd be worried about you if you were up earlier than my show begins because we are very, very early in the day, which is a double-edged sword, but it is nice because I know a lot of people like to wake up and tune in.
I try to keep things light.
I know people are out there making their smoothies, getting ready for the day, and we cover just the most horrific stuff you can possibly imagine.
I try to do that by...
Somehow finding the humor in it or finding the jokes in it while still representing how serious all of this really is.
That's my goal.
Not to depress people at 8 a.m.
in the morning.
I want people to have vigor and be inspired, not downtrodden, which is hard with the news that we have to cover.
I think you're doing an extraordinary job.
And that time slot, it's hard to fill because, you know, you almost have to deal with last night's news almost because it's so early in the morning to do your research.
But you're doing an amazing job.
I love your satire, by the way.
I love the mocking that you do.
It's really great.
You do!
And it totally works because it is so insane.
But what's on your mind about the biggest stories that have crossed your desk in the last couple of days?
What's going on?
There's been so much.
It's truly insane.
You know, I don't really like getting into the...
Political stuff, but the first thing that jumps into my mind is the AOC nonsense.
I mean, I cover a lot of political stuff, let me be clear, but when it's just sort of the gossiping or the snapping back and forth of politicians, I usually don't cover that, but that's been a big one.
What I try to do is take stories that I think you can extrapolate out.
And figure out, okay, what's really going on here?
So that was a big one we covered today was AOC and trying to pick apart what psychological manipulation is she trying to carry out here?
That's a big one, obviously.
Well, but Phyllis, what does she do for the viewers?
What's going on?
Well, basically, she's just a complete hypocrite and is hanging out in Florida, you know, having a great time, not wearing a mask, not being under the restrictions that her constituents are under.
And when she gets called out on this, her response is, believe it or not, they're just trying to date me.
The people criticizing me actually just want to date me, and that's the reason they're criticizing me.
It's so absurd.
It's hilarious, quite frankly, but it's also rather troubling that this woman is a sitting congresswoman.
It's a strange world that we live in.
That's probably the least important thing I covered today.
It's just what popped into my mind.
No, I hear you.
What's going on?
Well, yeah, you're right.
But there is all this hypocrisy.
And of course, Twitter's banning conservative members of Congress.
So what are your thoughts about the insane censorship that's taking place right now?
Yeah, that was another, obviously, major story, the censoring of Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Of course, that comes at the heels of Robert Malone, Dr.
Robert Malone, going on Joe Rogan, but he'd been kicked off of Twitter just before that.
So, yeah, I mean, it's increasing.
It's accelerating at this point.
And I guess these big tech companies just think it's up to them.
They have the authority.
They have the sovereignty.
They get to decide who we get to listen to, who we get to hear from.
It doesn't matter how many people voted for her.
She's an actual sitting congresswoman.
It's like, you know, they kicked off the president of the United States.
They'll kick off Marjorie Taylor Greene.
They'll kick off anybody.
That doesn't comport to their particular narrative.
I mean, it is reaching new and more absurd heights.
And I really hope this is a wake-up call for Republicans who just seem completely unwilling to tackle what is one of the biggest issues and really compounds all the other issues, We could deal with all these other issues much more easily if we could discuss them and have access to the audiences that we'd like to speak to.
So yeah, massive, massive issue there.
I'm surprised I'm still on Twitter.
I expect to be off pretty soon.
Oh, gosh, you are on Twitter.
That is rather amazing.
Obviously, you're not using it much then because...
I use it a lot.
I don't know.
I mean, it is maybe my fifth or sixth account.
So I have been kicked off before.
I just keep coming back.
But my current one is still going.
So we'll see.
Okay, maybe your name is so common they just can't figure out which one is you.
They don't want to accidentally delete the wide receiver from the Vikings, so maybe they're just avoiding me.
That's funny because there was a famous football player named Mike Adams a few years ago as well that was always getting confused with me.
I actually like it because then when people search my name, football comes up.
I'm hidden.
I'm under the surface.
I like that.
I hear you.
No, I hear you.
There was a conservative commentator named Michael Adams who died last year.
Oh, gosh.
And I'm really sorry about him dying.
I didn't know him, but I think he wrote for Town Hall.
And, man, that day my phone blew up.
Oh, I bet.
They're like, are you dead?
And I'm like, if I were, I wouldn't get your message, you know?
Well, you know, maybe a quick name change, you know?
Maybe that's...
So let me...
Well, getting to more serious topics, because you do have a vast amount of knowledge in all these areas.
Give us your outlook of where you think things are going in 2022, or just sort of the major highlights of the trends or the things for us to watch out for.
Where is all this going?
Yesterday, I hosted the Sunday night show on Infowars.
I almost picture it like, I don't know if you're a fan of the Harry Potter series, but there's a very famous scene where Harry Potter and Lord Voldemort, their wands connect and it's like a pushing back of energy.
This is where we are now, where 2022 started with massive protests all over the world.
Germany, Austria, Italy.
There are all these videos of them saying...
Fireworks are illegal because of COVID and the whole city is setting off fireworks.
So there's this spirit of resistance.
There's a spirit of humanity uprising against the tyrannical and pointless dictates of their masters.
On one hand, that's the Harry Potter energy, right?
But on the other hand, you had on exactly the same day, you know, in Brussels, they're putting, you know, sick and attack dogs on people, or that may have been Amsterdam, but both Amsterdam and Brussels had massive crackdowns.
They're, you know, the new mayor of New York is instituting even more mandates.
So It's a very strange dichotomy where you have humanity waking up and casting off the shackles on the one side, and the globalists just doing everything they can to just clamp down the trap while they think they still have us.
So I picture this ball of energy just sort of being pushed back and forth between these two poles, and I don't know which way it goes, but it does feel like we're on the cusp of a decision one way or another, you know?
But what's colliding with all of this is the inescapable number of dead people.
You know, the mounting numbers of dead and the body bags stacking up.
So, of course, Dr.
Robert Malone, he put out an article earlier this morning about the life insurance CEO story that I know you've covered.
Suddenly, there's a 40% increase in deaths.
Among, you know, 18 to 64 year olds, basically all working age Americans.
And of course, that increase extends to other areas.
I did the math, and that's about 93,000 excess deaths per month in America.
Right.
So, yeah, I mean, we're almost at 25,000 per week.
And of course, none of these are called COVID vaccine deaths.
But at some point, don't you think, I guess this is my question to you, Harrison, at some point, Doesn't the narrative collide with the reality of so many dead people?
You know, they either have to come up with something more convincing than it's all just a coincidence, because that's the argument they're going with now.
It's just a coincidence.
All the athletes collapsing, all of the extra deaths, just like ignored.
That's not going to last for too much longer.
So, yeah, I guess right now, you know, the cracks are appearing in the edifice.
Yeah.
The Robert Malone interview, of course, Peter McCullough before that.
And it's amazing.
40 million listens on the Joe Rogan podcast, most popular podcast guest of all time.
And now he's...
So it's like Alex Jones is the most popular guest.
Then he gets beaten by Peter McCullough.
Now he's probably going to be beaten by Robert Malone.
So there's so much hunger for this information.
And the edifice is starting to crack.
Those are starting to appear.
And we're just waiting for the whole dam to break and it really to come out.
But just everything from the...
I mean, the way the CDC is changing their dictates arbitrarily, the way that, you know, it's coming out now.
Yeah, masks didn't really work.
And CNN even just now had an article about, you know, obesity is actually really a big contributing factor.
It's maybe just getting healthy is the best thing to do to fight COVID. So it's like, you know, they're all coming around to things that we've all known for two years at this point.
So something is happening.
There's a groundswell occurring.
But one thing we know about the globalists is they don't just give up.
They aren't going to look over their shoulder and go, you know what?
It is killing everybody.
Our bad.
We apologize.
We'll work this out from here.
They're going to keep lying.
They're going to keep trying to hide this.
And they're going to keep pushing because I think they're desperate.
And they really fear.
I did a big...
A couple of Twitter posts yesterday about humanity being a tiger, that they're just like, they're desperate to get this tiger into the cage.
And now they've, you know, they tried to lay the trail to attract the tiger, so hoping the tiger would just wander into their cage unknowingly and they could slam the door behind it.
But that didn't happen.
Once the tiger got close, he sort of recognized the cage and he started to get suspicious.
They could have backed off.
They could have gone, okay, now's not the time.
Humanity is a little bit more awake than we thought they were, but they don't do that.
They reach out and they grab the tiger and they're trying to pull him in.
In doing that, they expose themselves, though.
So there's got to be...
There's got to be a reckoning one way or the other.
They either have to do something drastic.
They have to start a war with China.
They have to release a new, much more deadly pandemic.
I mean, they have to do something to clamp this down, this awakening down right now.
That's sort of what I'm scared of.
What I'm hopeful is that they fail in that regard and the tiger gets free and metaphorically tears them to shreds, politically eliminates them and becomes free once again.
Right, right.
Well, maybe we'll call it 2022, Year of the Tiger, even though that's not the Chinese calendar animal for the year, I don't think.
But yeah, Chinese New Year is coming up pretty soon, in a couple of weeks, so who knows.
But one of the things you've covered on your show is you've shown video clips of the insanity of the mask Nazis and the vaccine Nazis, which are...
Many people believe that there are really neurological changes happening in these people that affect their behavior and change their personalities.
And you've covered so much of that.
Could you comment on what you think is behind that?
Because a lot of their behavior does not look human any longer.
What are your thoughts?
Yeah, I mean, the phrase I keep going back to is just like, what have they done to you?
What have they done to you people?
You know, Paul Joseph Watson had a video that said, what have they done to us?
Well, they haven't done it to me, but to everybody else out there, to a lot of other people out there, they have really tortured them and forced them to drastically change the way they treat their fellow human beings.
Obviously, the video today was the Canadian guy who pulled down his mask for a second so he could smell a candle and Oh yeah, the Dollarama, yeah.
Oh my god, people across the store yelling at him.
They're just vicious.
They're so mean, and it's really wicked.
And of course, kudos to you.
The mass formation psychosis, I think really that was a natural news article that Dr.
Robert Malone basically was quoting from when it came to Joe Rogan.
My producer found that, came out on December 12th.
I saw it, yeah.
Thank you for that.
Well, I was reading from it on today's show, and it was like, oh, this is where Robert Malone probably got all this information.
It's this article from Natural News, and it explains it really well and in-depth what mass formation psychosis is.
And, you know, we call it menticide, the killing of the mind, cult programming, abusive relationships.
You know, it's all the same mental...
You know, manipulation just scaled up, you know, whether it's worldwide or on an individual basis, it's still the same, you know, mechanism taking place.
And so I'm glad that now there's this phrase, mass formation psychosis.
It's almost like critical race theory, right?
Before you define, before you have the word for it, it's hard to say what you're really complaining about.
You know, it seems kind of racist to me what's going on here.
Then you get the term, critical race theory.
So now we have this term, mass formation psychosis, and I'm all in because that's exactly what I think we're experiencing.
I think it's a great term for it.
It is.
It is a kind of psychosis, and it does explain why people who are in that cult are completely immune to facts, logic, reason, cause and effect, any of those things.
I mean, they literally act out like cult leaders, and many of them are members of Congress.
I saw an interview this morning, a member of Congress, saying, well, it's not enough that we've just censored Marjorie Taylor Greene, that that's just the beginning.
We have to censor all conservatives.
And, you know, what kind of world do they think they're building?
But they don't think about it because they're in a cult.
I think you're right.
I don't think they think about it.
I think they're just power hungry.
They think they're on top and they'll be on top forever.
And so they're setting up really, really kind of horrific situations, which is kind of...
I always take sort of a sarcastic tack on my show.
Not always, but I generally am somewhat sarcastic.
And I try to illustrate this to them by acting as if I'm in favor of what they're trying to put forward, right?
So when New York...
that the governor can arbitrarily detain people who they believe will be a public health crisis.
You know, I'll sort of take on the bad guy and go, oh, okay, so once we're in office, we get to do this?
So we get to just imprison anybody?
Say that they're sick and we just get to hold them forever, no trial?
We don't even need to prove anything?
Yeah, that sounds good.
Yeah, pass that law.
We'll see how this goes.
We'll see how it works out.
Just trying to get through to them, like, how we are seeing things.
How tyrannical.
Because it's very interesting.
There was a really, really funny tweet where it was somebody saying, you know...
If we had a right-wing dictatorship, we would do this, we would do this, we would do this.
Really what he was doing was describing what the left is doing right now, but he was describing it as if it was a sort of a wish list for the right wing and all these leftists were going, oh my God, this is so tyrannical.
It would be a dictatorship.
And so it's like, okay, so you can recognize tyranny when it comes from the right, but somehow you're totally blind when literally the exact same thing is happening, but you're in charge.
So it's a disconnect that is really fascinating.
Well, as you've said, it's always projection.
And you were talking about this, I think, on the Sunday show.
They're always projecting onto others exactly the things that they're doing.
But check this out.
Let me get your thoughts on this.
You know, because of the life insurance story, there is mass death happening across America right now.
And as I said, it's a little over 90,000 per month.
And that's based on third quarter data from last year.
So fourth quarter is going to be significantly more.
And now in 2022, it's going to be even worse because of the winter and so on.
Vitamin D deficiency.
But there are about roughly two Democrats dying for every one Republican dying.
So you could say roughly it's about 60,000 Democrats are dying per month in America right now and roughly about 30,000 or so conservatives.
This begins to explain why they have to rush the borders with so many replacements because they have to replace the dead Democrats that took the vaccine and probably at some point will no longer be able to vote after they're dead.
Right.
What are your thoughts on the numbers here, where this is going?
Well, you know, one of our top stories we covered today was the fact that there were 400,000 anchor babies born last year.
So that number, 400,000, is greater than the number of births that took place in any of the states, I think, except for California.
I think California had 420,000 births.
But, I mean, that's a huge...
And so assuming each kid has two parents who also get to stay because their kid's a citizen, that's 1.2 million new people in a single year, just the ones who had anchor babies.
So yeah, the replacement migration is absolutely happening at a very rapid rate.
And I need to look in more into the numbers that you're presenting because I haven't dug into that yet.
I must have missed Robert Malone's post this morning, but it doesn't surprise me.
I really do wonder what's going on behind the scenes.
How are they going to deal with this when the numbers start proliferating out and people start seeing what it's going to be?
They're scrambling, I guarantee it.
Well, one thing that's going to happen is life insurance companies are going to start going bankrupt or begging for bailouts because they're having to pay out on so many policies.
That's going to get worse.
So that's a clear indication of what's going on.
But just to shift gears, I want to ask you more of a personal question of how you...
I became the host of American Journal, which is your show.
I think the show was created for you or with you.
But before that, I remember being at the studios there, sometimes filling in for Alex or what have you, and I would say hi to you, and you were doing special reports, sometimes filling in, but at that time you didn't have your own show.
So what was your progression at InfoWars to what led you to where you are today with American Journal?
Well, it's sort of fascinating, and it's really a...
It says something good about Infowars, I'll say.
It says that they really do sort of live by their libertarian principles because I actually got hired as a cameraman and an editor, and that's what I did originally.
So for 10 years, I never went to college.
I just was a freelance videographer.
I made music videos and all sorts of stuff.
So I got hired on Infowars doing that.
But of course, I'd been a big fan of Alex.
I'd been a big fan of yours for years before I ever worked there as well.
So it was kind of fun getting to meet you for the first time, you know, One of my first celebrity meetings there at InfoWars.
Oh, really?
Yeah, absolutely.
So what I like to say is I eventually just started making reports and nobody stopped me from doing it.
So it slowly built from there.
I had some things to say, so I started making reports.
And InfoWars is truly a sort of libertarian company that says, hey, basically it's all on you.
If you want to make reports and they do well, You'll succeed.
But if you make reports and don't do well, then, you know, we're going to get you back behind the camera, you know, whatever it is.
And so they really just left it open and completely sort of gave me free reign.
And I started making reports and started filling in.
And slowly but surely, I guess I was just in the right place at the right time when we wanted to launch American Journal.
I said yes.
And it's been going pretty well.
So it's about our one year anniversary.
We started in January of last year.
So, yeah.
Wow, that's great.
That's a really great story.
And yeah, I remember seeing some of your reports, and I know John Bowne does reports and also Greg Reese.
And, you know, you got to give kudos to Greg Reese, too, because his reports have become super freaking bombshell five minute compact reports at this point.
Oh, it's amazing.
Yeah, he's nailing it as well.
And then you're nailing the show format.
You start out with a daily dispatch.
I understand you made the decision to move that to the front of the show, make it a little bit shorter.
I think that's a great decision.
Are you getting a good positive response on that?
You know, I haven't looked on that because that was just today.
Today was the first day that we did it because what would end up happening was I'd go, okay, I'm going to do a daily...
My whole idea was that the Daily Dispatch would be something, since we're a morning show, when people wake up and they want to know, okay, what's happened overnight or what's going to be the big story today?
And I just wanted to have a quick little, almost like weekend update from SNL where it's just sort of, here's a headline and here's either some further information about it or maybe just a quick joke about it and then move on.
And what ended up happening was I would spend the whole first hour on the Daily Dispatch Because I would have so much to say about every story.
I couldn't help myself.
So we decided, okay, we're going to reset things.
And from now on, The Daily Dispatch is going to be very short, under five minutes.
And we're just going to do the top five stories.
I give the headline.
I give a little bit more.
And I tell you to stay tuned so I can get more into it a little bit later.
So yeah, I feel like we've sort of Hit our stride after a year of doing this.
We're all sort of very comfortable in how we were doing things.
So now we're shaking it up and we've got whole new processes taking place.
And I think it's going to be very good going into next year.
I've got high hopes.
Yeah, absolutely.
And, you know, I was just thinking maybe you could invite the Babylon Bee to come in and do like a five-minute Saturday Night Live type of, you know, comedy news update.
I'm going to write that down because that's a very good idea.
I don't know anybody at Babylon Bee, but they crack me up, man.
Well, I don't know anybody either, but I actually, I wish I worked at the Babylon Bee because that's the way my mind thinks anyway.
It's just like, I have to tone it down, you know, but normally the first thought is like a Babylon Bee kind of crazy thought.
So, I tell you, if they don't want to do it, you know, maybe we should do something like that on your show, but I don't know.
It's so ripe for comedy in today's world that we can't miss this opportunity.
Well, but, you know, and this is the beautiful thing about InfoWars is it's very easy for me to go from, you know, laughing at this and sort of shaking my head and rolling my eyes to, like, righteous indignation, very angry about what's actually happening.
We get to talk about history.
We get to talk about current events.
We get to make predictions into the future.
It's very freewheeling, and it's really just an absolutely wonderful place to work.
Just to have the free reign.
Really what I try to do is to be an avatar for the audience because I know the audience is not getting their views aired anywhere else.
So they see the headlines and they think, am I the only person that realizes how insane this is?
So I just try to...
Turn that back around and go, you're not alone.
We all get how insane this is.
Just because InfoWars are natural news, just because there's only one or two places where you can actually find this attitude, doesn't mean that it's not prevalent.
It is very prevalent.
So I try to encourage people in that to go, you're not crazy.
These people are crazy.
Yeah, I think you're doing a great job by pointing that out and really bonding with the audience.
I mean, the feedback I get is people really, really enjoy your show.
I enjoy it as well.
We're wrapping up here for Brighton TV, that segment.
But check out your show at Infowars.com, 8 a.m.
Central through 11 a.m.
Central.
And we'll continue this interview on Brighton.com.
Thanks for staying with us today, folks.
Now, this is the extended interview here, not running on Brighttown.tv, but I want to ask you maybe a little more question about what it's like to work at InfoWars because, you know, very few people have actually been in the studio.
I've been there.
The thing that I'll say, just to leave this off, is that no one is ever goofing off.
Everybody is working and There's no one sort of browbeating them to do that.
Everybody is self-motivated and they're there because they want to be there and they want to be part of that mission.
So with that said, how would you describe the environment, the day-to-day environment behind the scenes?
Oh, gosh.
I mean, it does change.
I mean, it can depend on, you know, what the news is that day or how viciously we're being attacked in particular.
But the overwhelming attitude I get is a battleship that is, you know, at sea.
We are, you know, all in it together.
It sounds cheesy to say that we're all a big family, but it really does feel like that because when you are under attack like we are, it's really hard to explain, but it's very familial.
It's very much like, look, enough stress is coming in from the outside.
We don't need to create more of it between us.
It's like the attacks actually increase the cohesion, the unit cohesion inside.
Yeah, because it's just like, look, we got these people on us.
We got these people telling lies about us.
We got the globalists trying to take down the world.
We have a clear vision, a clear mission that we're on to try to expose the globalists.
And that's our primary focus.
And the other thing that you need to understand about InfoWars is what you see in front of the camera is the same stuff that you see behind the camera.
Alex Jones or Owen Troyer or myself, I like to think, We aren't putting on a show.
We aren't, you know, pretending to be something that we're not.
So, you know, if I'm in a bad mood, I'll be in a bad mood on the show.
And you see exactly what that's like.
If I'm in a good mood, I'll be in a good mood on the show.
And that's what it's like.
Same with Alex and same with Ellen.
And so it's all very pure.
It's all very real.
You can't get away with stuff at InfoWars.
We're all about ferreting out secrets and figuring out what people's real motive is.
And so kudos to our management team, essentially, for finding really good people because we have a lot of just incredibly dedicated and very, very talented people behind the scenes that don't get a lot of credit.
I mean, we credit the crew a lot, but...
These guys are workhorses, man.
As soon as my show is done, my switcher and my producer are like reconfiguring cameras and they're running wires through the walls and they're creating new graphics.
I mean, everybody is...
It really just wants to make the best show we can possibly make and really wants to get as much information out in the best package that we possibly can.
And so it's about having this singular mission and knowing that, look, we got enough stress and...
Anger from the outside when we're here.
It's all about the mission.
It's all about moving forward.
And so I imagine if anybody's ever been on a, you know, football team, a high performance football team, or even, I've never, I'm not in the military, I've never been in the military, but I imagine it's sort of the same atmosphere that you would get, you know, behind enemy lines with your, you know, with your fellow soldiers, just going, okay, even if we got, even if we have some trouble here, we're going to, we're going to bury it, we're going to get over it because the enemy's on the outside, not within us.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I think that's a good description.
And also, I remember Alex talking about how in the lawsuits against Infowars, the judge was demanding, like, where's the notes of all the meetings that you have to determine what you're going to say, you know?
Even I know.
That doesn't happen.
There's no market-focused testing groups.
They're not trying out different things.
It's just like, Alex, here's the story.
Boom!
You're live.
What say you?
Right?
That's how it happens.
It's literally like that.
Speaking of projection, right?
We were talking about projection earlier.
This is one of those things, right?
In the same way that they're...
The reason I was talking about projection today was because there was a...
Long Twitter thread where there's a woman talking about how during the Joe Rogan podcast, Robert Malone said that an Atlantic writer was asking him, like, why are you doing this?
Who are you really doing this for?
Who's paying you?
No, it's that kind of idea.
It's, you know, how are you coming up with these talking points to trick your audience?
And it's like, no, no, you do that.
We don't do that.
You know, you think that because you do it, everybody must do it.
But there's actually honest organizations out there.
There's actually people that just get up and try to tell the truth, even if it's uncomfortable, even if it Proves them right.
Even if I was wrong before, and now we have new information that proves it, I'm going to come out and say it.
You know, with ivermectin, there was a study that said that ivermectin might decrease sperm count.
And of course, it was...
We looked into it and it was a totally falsified study.
It was totally irrelevant and didn't actually prove anything whatsoever.
But my first reaction was to be like, oh my gosh, I need to get this information out because I've been advocating for ivermectin and I feel a responsibility that if there's new information showing that it might be bad in some way...
I'm not going to sit there and go, well, but then I'll look wrong.
Then I'll look bad because I've been...
No, no.
I need to get this information out to people because I feel a responsibility for this.
So it's all projection on their part when they think that we have some scheme behind the scenes that we're doing.
Right.
Okay, let me ask you this.
Now that you've been doing that show for a year and you've become more well-known, you're publicly known, your face is on the broadcast, do people recognize you in public and do you get high fives and do you also get attacks in public?
What's that like?
I get no attacks.
The only real attack that I can even remember would be that my sister's friend contacted her and said, is this your brother?
He says a bunch of bad stuff.
And of course, my sister kind of just rolls her eyes.
I mean...
Obviously, you know, just being in the political world, you have friendships that kind of fall apart or whatever.
But far, far more often, is it a positive recognition on the street?
Yeah.
I've been recognized a few times.
If I ever go to a protest, there's going to be a lot of info warriors there, and they're going to recognize me.
And they're just the finest people on earth.
And I'm sure you know this.
Literally, just the most decent, loving, God-fearing people you could ever ask for are info warriors.
So it's been such a blessing to be on InfoWars.
And...
Maybe it's just a genetic disposition, but I really don't care what anybody thinks about me.
So all the negative stuff just washes off like a duck in water.
I could not care less what the detractors say, so I don't even pay attention to it.
These days, who believes the mainstream media anyway?
You know, like when the Atlantic attacked Robert Malone, it just made Dr.
Malone more famous, gave him more credibility.
It's like, you know, when the Atlantic attacks you or BuzzFeed or whoever, it's just like, that's actually the certification that you're legit in the minds of people who are real.
Yeah, you know, that's very true.
For people who are awake, it's a badge of honor.
And I have been, you know, I think I was on a 60 Minutes thing where they were talking about January 6th, and I was, you know, they've said my name and, you know, called me all sorts of horrible names.
The ADL has a whole sheet of lies about me, you know, I mean, that stuff...
It kind of annoys me a little bit because I don't want people believing those lies.
And I know organizations like the ADL, regardless of how we feel about them, and a lot of the population of America is still very well respected.
And when they're the ones telling, this person is an anti-Semitic, homophobic, whatever, and it's just like, I'm literally none of those things.
I love everybody.
I'm the least racist or hateful person you could ever possibly imagine.
So that...
Kind of hurts my feelings a little bit because it's so wrong.
But, you know, liars are going to lie.
And you just got to, you know, not care what they say, I guess.
Yeah, true.
Well, I mean, we're all living in that environment.
And, of course, they're attacking, you know, Steve Kirsch.
They're attacking Robert Malone.
They're attacking Dr.
Peter McCullough and so on.
But that's why it's so great that you use humor.
And I do as well.
Like, I did this bit on my podcast about NASA hiring transgender astronauts and giving them the wrong space suit that didn't have room for their man junk.
And, you know, it's freaking hilarious, actually, if you think about it.
You know, doing a spacewalk and being contacted like, there's a problem, sir.
And, you know, the transgender astronaut screams, it's ma'am!
You know, whatever.
It's freaking hilarious.
Yeah, Houston, we have a major problem.
Yeah, right.
But, you know, then you're called transphobic or a hater or whatever.
No, that's just pure comedy.
Well, and I guess the line that we sort of have to tread, and I think this gets lost in a lot of people because they're so convinced, again, projection, right?
They're always looking for like, oh, that's a dog whistle.
Oh, he doesn't really mean that.
He doesn't want a sovereign country with a border because he cares about nationhood.
He's really a racist against Mexicans, right?
They're always looking for the secret ulterior motive that you have.
Yeah.
It's a little bit difficult, but I basically am always trying to play the defense, right?
If you want to be transgender, God bless.
It doesn't affect me in my life.
I couldn't care less.
If you're whatever, it doesn't matter.
But then when you try to impose it on children, then when you're...
Trying to change laws to destroy the concept of gender.
When you have doctors who are treating patients but say that there is no such thing as physical...
Now I've got to defend this because this is reality.
Now I have to push back on you.
Not because I hate you because of who you are.
Not because I'm a bigot and I dislike you.
So I always try to make it clear that it's like, look, I'm defending here.
I'm not the one attacking anybody.
They're attacking us.
I have to defend myself.
You don't get to call me bad names for saying, leave me alone or for saying, stop imposing your will on mine.
I'm not doing it to you.
You shouldn't be able to do it to me.
So it's difficult to talk about some of this stuff without giving the liars fodder for when they try to say, oh, really, this person hates people for no reason.
It's like, I don't hate...
I love everybody.
I just want to be left alone.
I don't want you imposing your, frankly, sick beliefs on my children.
That's all right.
Whatever beliefs you want.
Your style, too, your style of presentation comes across as intellectual and also very humanitarian, actually very compassionate, as you said.
You care about reality, and you care about people, and you respect people's individual liberties.
And this is important because Alex, of course, is known as a very rambunctious type of aggressive style.
And Owen is sometimes aggressive and hard-hitting, and he's not going to take any flack, which is great.
And I love Owen, and I love what he does.
He's got incredible courage.
But you have a completely different style and so together you reach different types of people who are okay with different styles of presentation.
Does that make sense?
Oh, yeah, it definitely does.
And I hope that's the case.
I hope it's working.
I have a lot of people, callers and people on Twitter and stuff say to me, you know, if I'm trying to introduce somebody to these concepts, I'll send them your show first because not everybody's ready for Alex Jones.
And, you know, I get pretty worked up about things.
You know, if I wanted to put myself in the mindset, I could be...
I'm vicious constantly, right?
If I, you know, delve into that aspect of my psyche, I could do that.
But we got two of the finest angry ranters on the face of the earth, Owen Troyer and Alex Jones.
We don't need a third, you know, trying to compete with them.
So that's their style.
I'll stick with what I'm more, you know, natural in, which is just sort of sarcastic and humorous while at the same time, you know, trying to put across like this is very serious.
This is actually, you know...
Literally, it's depopulation.
It's genocide.
They're trying to kill us.
It's really not funny, but I'm not going to let them ruin my day.
So I'm also going to laugh at them while we're at it.
Yeah, exactly.
And I admit, sometimes there are days where I watch your show first, and it's usually part of my morning routine.
And some days I can't hear Alex live.
I have to wait and go to the replay because Alex can be super, super intense.
But the thing that Alex does that's amazing is I can't tell you how many times I've seen a story myself.
I've assigned it to my writing team.
And then somehow I missed the big, big picture that Alex nails.
You know what I mean?
Alex is the best at connecting the dots, and then I'll have to go back to my story like, whoa, I totally missed that, but Alex got it.
He's very good at that.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, he's the best.
He's the man, right?
Like, that's what he's all about.
So, yeah, I don't try to compete with him on that regard.
He's got that locked down.
But I do try to find just whatever the angle everybody else seems to be missing is because, you know, a lot, especially with Twitter, especially with social media, you get a lot of kind of variations of the same interpretation of whether it's a particular clip or a particular news story.
A lot of people are kind of saying the same things, and I really try to consciously go, okay, what's really happening here?
What's going on deeper underneath?
What are some names I don't recognize in this article that I can then search that name and find out who that person's connected with and find out what their organization is a part of?
And then you uncover something that nobody else has and now you're adding value to whatever you're doing rather than just parroting what everybody else is saying.
I really try not to parrot anybody ever.
That's almost my primary goal.
Well, that's great.
That's great.
And you're doing a great job with it.
And I love your show.
I know people do as well.
We're wrapping up on time here, but any final thoughts you want to leave us with or maybe hint of things that are coming up?
Well, we'll have to have you on the show.
It really is an honor.
I mean, to me, I still pinch myself.
Every time I sit in for Alex or something, I'm sure the audience is sick of hearing it now, but it's such an out-of-body experience for me.
I mean, I grew up watching Alex Jones.
I first watched Alex Jones in middle school when he was breaking into Bohemian Grove, so...
I followed this guy all the way up.
I used to tune into his radio show.
I wasn't in college, but around college age, I moved to Austin, and I tuned into his radio show, just driving down the street, just like, yeah, America!
This is awesome!
So it's such a bizarre, truly a blessing and an honor to be on Infowars, to be...
Just in that mix is such a wonderful thing.
And to be on this show, of course, I followed you as well.
I was into Alex a little bit earlier, but you were always a major aspect of that.
So, again, just from meeting you in the Infowars studio for the first time to now to have been welcomed on your show, it's really just a wonderful thing that...
We're very sincere when we thank the audience, thank the InfoWars audience for supporting us.
It's like I'm living out a dream, and I just try to continue to appreciate that.
Band.video is where you can go to watch all of the segments, and you can watch live, InfoWars.com slash show, every day, 8 to 11 a.m.
And my call out to your audience is give us a call.
Call in.
Dial in and we'll put you on air.
I don't really filter calls.
Whatever you want to talk about, I'll put you on air and we'll discuss it.
It's a lot of fun.
Okay, that's fantastic.
I'll definitely pass that along on my podcast as well.
And by the way, I forgot to ask you the main reason why I wanted you on.
So let me ask you that now, which is about the racist medicine.
Tell the story, because you have it on video.
We played the video and everything.
But tell us the quick story about what happened to you with monoclonal antibodies.
Sure.
Yeah, sure.
I came down with COVID. My whole family got it all at once.
We were having a big family get-together.
We all came down with COVID. My parents in Houston actually got monoclonal antibodies, said it worked like a charm.
It was really wonderful.
I was doing ivermectin and some Z-Pak type, you know, supplementation sort of stuff.
I was kind of doing okay.
I didn't think I really needed the monoclonal antibodies.
But when my sister came down with COVID, she said, I'm going to get these monoclonal antibodies.
It's free.
It's from the state of Texas.
You just have to call in and make an appointment.
I thought, all right, yeah, I'll do this because I want to get over this quickly.
And if it's free and all that, I'll give it a call.
I give them a call.
And on the first call, they told me, well, you know, if you're white, you probably won't be able to get this.
And it just sort of threw me off.
And I didn't really know what to think about it.
So I tweeted it out.
I said, I think I just got denied medical service because I'm white.
And then I gave out the number because I just thought, you know, why not?
Here's the number I called.
Call him.
Ask for yourself.
So people did.
They found out it was true.
And I ended up just going to the place anyway because I was like, look, maybe I misheard him.
Maybe the guy was reading the script wrong or something, you know.
I'll go, and it's a win-win situation for me because either I get the monoclonal antibodies, which I did want because I've heard they're effective, or I'm going to get them on video telling me explicitly that they're keeping me out of this because I'm white.
And so that's what I did.
I went in.
They took me all the way back to the creepiest place in the world, man.
East Austin.
This creepy, run-down convention center in the middle of nowhere.
It's just fields around everywhere, and there's this old convention center, and it's filled up with army tents.
It looks like a scene from E.T. with quarantine facilities.
It was very creepy from the beginning.
It was very weird.
And...
And so I just, you know, I flipped out my phone when they came up.
I mean, they took me all the way in the back.
They sat me on the bed.
I thought I was about to get it.
And then this woman comes up.
So I flipped my phone open and started recording, just thinking, all right, they're about to tell me that I'm not going to be able to get it.
And sure enough, that's what happens.
And so I just posted the video and said, here it is.
They're denying me because I'm white.
And now, you know, that's a nationwide story since it's been revealed in New York and Minnesota.
Right, right.
But at first, The left-wing media accused InfoWars of fabricating an entire set to make that up.
But actually, you were breaking an exclusive story that's now confirmed in New York and other states, as you mentioned.
It's astonishing.
Yeah, and it's amazing the way that this works, isn't it?
What should have happened was, you know, they said, oh, InfoWars broke this story.
I guess InfoWars isn't making things up, right?
That should have been the conclusion.
But it goes the other way somehow.
It's like, here's a true story.
They're like, oh, it's from InfoWars?
Then it's definitely not true and we can ignore it.
I mean, that's very annoying.
I've got to be honest with you.
It's very annoying when you're telling the truth and you have people claiming that you're lying, even when you have literal video evidence.
You have it on video!
Like, you couldn't hire an actor to be as authentic as that nurse that was talking to you.
And would we ever do that?
I mean, that's not what we do.
Our whole thing is exposing scams.
Our whole thing is exposing false flags.
And yet, somehow, that gets projected onto us.
No, you were doing like a Project Veritas thing, basically, yourself.
More or less, yeah.
And...
And the thing I like to tell everybody about this is there was nothing about me that let me get this story.
I didn't have special access because of InfoWars.
I didn't have special knowledge that anybody else had.
I thought I was going to get monoclonal antibodies when I heard them say, oh, you have to be Hispanic or black to get them.
I was just like, that's kind of weird.
I'm going to film this.
I'm going to record this.
So that's what I want people to learn from this lesson is like, you do this.
You do this.
Send us the video.
We'll spread it around.
But there's so much corruption and sickness going around everywhere, and people just need to expose it, man.
You just need to get your phone out, film it, take a picture, expose what's going on.
And even if people call you all sorts of names, get the truth out there because it's very troubling where we're going in this country.
Yeah, completely agreed.
But I've got to ask you one more question before I let you go.
Because we're living in a world where ethnic identity is something that we're told is internal.
People can be whatever they want.
I wish you would have responded to that nurse and said, why do you think I'm white?
Right.
Right?
I mean, maybe I self-identify as a person of color like Senator Elizabeth Warren.
Yeah, if I'd been Harrison Rodriguez, maybe I would have gotten it in that case.
I could have done that.
You know, there was that moment, and you can even kind of hear it in the video.
She's like, any more questions?
And I'm like...
No, I think I'm good.
I mean, you know, literally going through my mind was like, do I go full Alex Jones right now?
Do I go full?
I'm going to start yelling and embarrass all of you for daring to deny me of my mind.
I thought, it's not me.
It's not my style.
I've got the video.
I've got the proof right here.
I'm going to go expose this to the world.
But yeah, there is a moment where you're like, do I get angry about this?
Do I say that I'm actually I'm black and you're racist for saying that I'm not?
I mean, it's But, you know, when you live in clown world, you do as the clowns do, I guess.
It's all very weird.
But the nurse was a person of color, as I recall from your video.
So if the nurse had been white, would that have given you maybe more latitude culturally to say, why do you think I'm white?
I'm just curious.
Maybe so.
I really didn't even think about that.
I mean, the funny part is, it's not even really funny, but, you know, the nurse, I'm sort of questioning her about it, and she's going...
She's going, well, you know, the science says that you should be able to recover so you don't need the monoclonal antibodies.
And it's like, that's not what the science says.
That's not what the science says.
But what the elites do is they put the underlings in a position where they're having to try to come up with some sort of justification for what they've been told to do, when really what they're doing is unjustifiable.
It's racially profiling, determine whether you get potentially life-saving treatment.
That's a horrific thing.
And then you put this Poor nurse.
I feel sorry for her.
She's in this position where it's like, okay, go deny treatment to this kid.
And hopefully he doesn't ask why.
But if he does, I guess you've got to make something up.
I guess you've got to try to make it sound like you're not doing what you are doing.
So no hard feelings against her, except I guess she's a cog in the machine that's destroying us all.
The racist medical regime that's basically telling white people to go die.
Quite literally, yeah.
I've talked about it on my show quite a bit, but in medical school now, this critical race theory, this sickness, this rot is really infiltrating to where it's...
People didn't take it seriously when it was just academics talking about it.
They thought it was just sort of something to laugh at when it was a bunch of weirdos screaming on the street.
This is life and death, man.
And it's happening in courtrooms.
It's happening in doctor's offices.
It's happening with government largesse.
Now there's a new pilot program where I think it's in Atlanta, Georgia.
Black women are getting subsidies.
They're getting basic income because they're Black and women.
And it's like...
This isn't just speculation anymore.
This isn't just silly people having weird racial philosophies.
Now policy is being made on this.
Yeah, exactly.
Literally, life and death policy that either is sending people away to jail or letting criminals free or preventing people from getting the medicine that they need.
I mean, if we don't put a stop to this and reverse it right now, God only knows where this ends.
It's total genocide.
Yeah.
It's not universal basic income if it's actually race-based selected income, right?
So it's not universal.
I mean, it's like if you're black, you get money.
If you're white, you probably get penalized, right?
So what's universal about that?
No.
No, it's racialized basic income.
Yes.
Frankly, I think it's insulting to the black women.
It's insulting to everybody, yes.
It's so sick, and it's not going to solve anything.
It's only going to make everything worse.
The problems are not with race in this country.
The problem is with government intervention.
The problem is with hatred and...
You know, lack of personal responsibility.
I mean, there's a lot of problems out there.
Race is not the main one.
And yet that's the one they're trying to solve.
Meaning, you know, basically they're trying to, you know, you might have cancer, but they're trying to treat you as if you have heart disease and it might just make everything worse.
So, you know, that's where we are now.
Yeah, well, I mean, this is a world where you can be a biological man, claim to be a woman, and demand an OBGYN, examine your cervix.
So, I mean, anything's possible at this point.
But look, Harrison, thank you so much for spending the time today.
And just thank God you're not in the medical industry.
How about that?
Every day, I thank God I didn't go to school for one second longer than I had to.
So being a doctor was right out.
That was never an option for me.
But no, thank you so much for having me on.
This has really been a pleasure.
Love to have you on my show soon.
And this has been great.
Really, really wonderful.
Thank you.
Yeah, I enjoyed it too, Harrison.
Thank you so much.
It's great to chat with you.
And folks, be sure to check out his show, American Journal, each morning, 8 a.m.
to 11 a.m.
Central on Infowars.com.
And there's a live feed there.
You can check it out.
And also, his shows, after the fact, they're archived on not just Band.video, but also Brighteon.com and other channels or other platforms as well.
So thank you all for watching today.
I'm Mike Adams of Vriteon.com, and we're talking with Harrison Smith of InfoWars.com.
Thank you all.
You all have a blessed day.
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