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May 24, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Skyhorse Publishing CEO Tony Lyons announces new book project with Dr. Robert Malone
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You know, if you think about it, that we currently can have a president taken off Twitter, we can have congresspeople taken off Twitter, and yet, you know, people who were not elected to anything, like Dr.
Fauci, who are so entangled with corporate interests, get more and more power.
And that's not what is supposed to happen in a democratic country.
Welcome to the Health Ranger Report here on Brighteon.tv.
I'm Mike Adams, the Health Ranger.
Thank you for joining me today.
We're joined by just a wonderful, hugely influential person.
You may not have heard of him, though, because he's actually the publisher behind many of the books of some of the top authors that you know and love, Dr.
Judy Mikovits and Mickey Willis, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and so many others, Kent Hecken-Lively and so on.
His name is Tony Lyons of Skyhorse Publishing, and he's agreed to join us today to talk about the censorship of books today, what's happening around the world and on certain book retail sites because, well, some globalists, let's say, don't like the message that is found in some of these books.
It's questioning the official vaccine narrative, and in some cases even questioning, well, the origins of SARS-CoV-2.
So, we're going to talk to Tony Lyons here for the rest of this show today.
Stay with us here on Brighteon.tv.
We'll be right back after this break with Tony Lyons.
All right, welcome back to Brighteon.tv.
Mike Adams here, the Health Ranger.
Now we're going to bring in Tony Lyons, who is the head of Skyhorse Publishing.
Tony, thank you so much for joining us today.
It's an honor to have you on, sir.
You've done amazing work.
Welcome.
Thanks so much for having me, Mike.
Well, it's great to have you on.
And by the way, I want to note to the audience, you were recently on with Tucker Carlson, correct?
Right, right.
Well, that was a great segment.
I didn't know that you did a lot of interviews until I saw that.
Is this something new that you're doing now, or what's the story?
Yeah, I've never done it before.
So in the last 15 years, I've never done a single one.
But in the last month, I've done a bunch, and I'm planning to just do it all the time now.
Well, that's great.
I think you did a wonderful job with Tucker, and the world needs to hear from you.
Now, as a book publisher, I would assume you welcome a very broad spectrum of ideas and narratives and book topics.
Is that true?
Definitely.
So we really believe in freedom of speech.
And, you know, as you know, there are a lot of people now who don't believe in that.
And, you know, so we've come up against that.
But generally, we publish books on both sides of all the major issues that we think are critical right now.
Okay, yeah.
So that's a great point.
I think you published a book by Alan Dershowitz, correct?
Yeah.
Right.
So we published Alan's book, which was The Case for Vaccine Mandates.
And then we published Kent's book, The Case Against Vaccine Mandates.
Okay, great.
Yeah, I think that's...
I mean, we're supposed to live in a society where we can hear both sides of an idea and then decide for ourselves which course of action we wish to take.
That seems to be even the neoliberal worldview right there, you know, free speech and debate.
But now we're living in a world where so many people want to shut down your authors and your books.
Tell us about that, please.
Yeah, so we just published Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s book, The Real Anthony Fauci.
And that, over the last month, has been the best-selling book in America.
It's sold over 700,000 copies in all formats, but it didn't get reviewed in any major newspaper in the country.
It hasn't gotten onto mainstream television shows.
You know, it's been a fascinating story because...
How can the best-selling book in the country not be covered in any mainstream narrative and then be called misinformation in so many different ways?
So if you try to place an ad somewhere, they send you a note back saying that it's misinformation.
And that's just become kind of a code word for anything that doesn't follow the mainstream narrative.
Yeah, that's a really good point, that they're using the labels of misinformation or disinformation to simply shut down scientific debate, even though the very definition of science is that, really, every scientist is supposed to be challenging every other scientist's views constantly.
That's how science works.
But let me go back to what you said right at the beginning there.
This book from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has become the number one book in America without virtually any media coverage.
Now, normally a book only becomes number one because of media coverage, right?
Right.
So...
It's shows like yours that are really getting out, getting this story out.
But it is fascinating because there's no telling how many copies this book would have sold if it was covered in mainstream media sources.
I mean, even the New York Times, we tried to place...
A full page ad there.
And, you know, it was a big, complicated story where we went back and forth with them many, many times.
But in the end, they said that the book itself constituted misinformation, but they wouldn't tell us what in it they disagreed with.
So clearly nobody there read it.
They just don't like the cover.
They don't like the general narrative that comes with the title.
Well, that's extraordinary because New York Times is supposed to be the paper of record, supposed to be fact-based, and you would think if they are running fact-checkers that they would be interested in facts.
And frankly, I'm still not all the way through reading Robert F. Kennedy's book because it's filled with so many facts.
It's overwhelming.
I can barely get through a chapter without my brain spinning about how I have to cover this and that and that.
I mean, it's extraordinary.
It's one of the most well-documented science-based books in the history of modern medicine, as far as I'm concerned.
Sure.
I mean, this is a book that has 2,194 citations, and it was vetted by doctors and scientists and lawyers, and it's got a blurb from a Nobel Prize winner.
I mean, this is a very serious, well-researched book.
Well, absolutely.
And even just the introduction of all the thanks he gave to the hundreds of very intelligent doctors, researchers, chemists, and so on, who contributed to his understanding.
It shows that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
went through the process of talking to every expert he could find.
To educate himself so that he could write and document this incredible book, which, in my view, stands as a milestone in the history of medicine.
I think that 50 years from now, after, in my opinion, Big Pharma collapses and the death care system collapses, but that's my view, I think people are going to look back at this book and say this was the awakening pivotal point.
Me too.
I mean, I, you know, I've worked in publishing now for about 25 years, and I've been running Skyhorse Publishing for 15 years, and I've published over 10,000 books.
And I've never gone on to any show to discuss the books that I've published.
And, you know, this, I think, is the most important of all of those 10,000 books.
I would agree with you.
And by the way, you have a huge selection of books that are available.
If you don't mind me mentioning, Brighteon does have a retail site that sells some of your top books.
That's called brighteonbooks.com.
People can also get books, I believe, directly from skyhorsepublishing.com and also just at booksellers everywhere, correct?
Yes, but I would much rather that people go onto your site and buy these books.
Well, yeah, I appreciate that.
I think we have only three books that are available in physical format from our store.
The others are electronic downloads, which is an EPUB format and a PDF format and so on.
But I got to tell you, people love that format too because they can put it on mobile devices and they can take it with them.
They can get the book instantly.
Even if they're, let's say, locked down in their home because of a COVID lockdown, they can still get the book and learn the truth.
It's really, it's a good system.
Yeah, definitely.
Definitely.
So, tell us about some of the other top books that you have right now.
You have authors, I know, like Dr.
Cowan and Dr.
Mikevitz and so on.
Give us kind of an overview of what's on your radar that people are really interested in right now.
Yeah, so there's Judy Mikovits' book called Ending Plague, which is part three of the Plague of Corruption series that was a big bestseller last year, and this one's doing very well, too.
And then there's...
Let's see, there's the case for masks and the case against masks.
And as you might expect, the case against masks was censored like crazy.
And you really just couldn't find it anywhere.
So, you know, that's the kind of world that we're living in now, that if you publish a book that the mainstream media likes, then they cover it.
If you publish a book that they don't like, then they don't cover it anywhere.
Well, if you publish a book called The Case for Censorship and another one, The Case Against Censorship, the one against censorship would not be available anywhere because it would be censored, thereby proving the book is correct.
But what's been fascinating, too, is that I've been on a bunch of radio shows and some TV shows, and even those shows where I'm discussing the censorship of books have been censored.
Yes, that's meta-level censorship, actually.
You can get censored even for claiming censorship.
But what's fascinating with Dr.
Fauci is that he has no reason to engage in censorship if he really believes in what he's saying, because he has so much power now.
That, you know, if he had a better argument, he could just make it.
He could get on to any mainstream TV show.
He could get on the front page of any newspaper.
So, you know, what you have to think about is, what is he running from?
You know, why is he hiding from a book like this?
You know, why is his only comment on the book?
So a whole bunch of people have asked him, What his reaction to this book is?
And his answer was, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
is very disturbed.
And so a whole bunch of mainstream media places, rather than discuss the book in any way, have just come out with hit pieces against Mr.
Kennedy, saying everything bad they could possibly say about him, but not mentioning the book or, you know, disagreeing with anything in it.
Right.
So so you see that that the levels of censorship are really deep here.
So on the one hand, most libraries don't don't carry it.
Most bookstores don't carry it.
You can't read about it in a in a newspaper.
The author gets attacked everywhere.
So they're just really working hard.
And, you know, Dr. Fauci, you know, has the bully pulpit.
I'm I mean, he can defend himself so easily.
But, you know, if you look at the kinds of things that he does say, so he, somebody asked him what his favorite book was.
And he said, his favorite book was The Godfather.
So you think about that for a second.
I mean, that's a little bit of a strange answer for the number one, you know, sort of the health czar of the United States.
So then people said, well, what's your, you know, what's your favorite line in that book?
So his favorite line is, it's not personal, it's just business.
If you think about that, the most powerful health person in the country believes that his job is to focus on business, not on people.
What you've seen more and more is that his job has become to help Corporations, big pharmaceutical corporations, maximize their return on investment.
And if you think about him that way, and if you think about how the U.S. government is treating this pandemic, you really see that it's about money.
And that's what's really well covered in this book, is that it's about all of the financial entanglements that led the government and led Dr.
Fauci to...
Avoid any kind of treatment like the plague and focus only on things that big pharmaceutical companies could make lots of money on.
Yeah, that's right.
Wild torturing black children and puppies along the way.
I mean, insane, insane things.
But I would just encourage the folks watching, get the book yourself, because this book is absolutely mind-blowing.
And if anyone is willing to read even the first chapter, they cannot any longer believe the false narrative from Fauci.
But I understand, Tony, you've got news you wanted to mention today about Dr.
Robert Malone.
So could you go ahead and share that news with us?
Sure.
So we are going to publish his book.
It's going to come out probably in May or June.
And it's called, Lies My Government Told Me.
Great title.
Yeah, so, you know, we're going to have a final cover in the next couple of days, and I really believe it's going to be a landmark book, and that, you know, he's been on the right side of this whole sort of fight in the last, you know, two years, and he's been censored in all kinds of ways, and he was taken down from Twitter, you know, but he's really fighting back, and this book is going to be, you know, part of his fight.
Well, as you know, and I'll just go ahead and say this publicly, just as we interviewed Robert F. Kennedy Jr., I would be thrilled to interview Dr.
Robert Malone about the book and to help make people aware that that's coming.
And so, you know, please, please pass along the word.
But I even want to mention, you know, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., he has been healing the awakened Americans in ways that he may not even have imagined because he is a Democrat.
And, you know, an unapologetic Democrat, what it has done is for so many people who are on the conservative side of politics, they have come to realize that, wow, look at Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
It doesn't matter what letter is next to your name.
What matters is, do you have principles?
Do you care about humanity?
And what I see...
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
accomplishing is a coming together, a joining of the hands of we the people.
Regardless of political affiliation, we are pro-humanity.
And so, to your credit and to his credit, he has accomplished something that Trump could not accomplish.
Trump was more divisive with people, where Bobby Kennedy is more healing.
And it's an extraordinary thing to watch.
Sure.
Sick children don't care whether their parents are on the right or the left.
This is really more a question of right or wrong than it is about right or left.
And I think Bobby has really shown that he wants to write a book and tell all people what he believes is the truth and have that message get out to anybody.
Well, and he absolutely did that, and also to his credit, you know, he was attacked by the media for even granting interviews to people like Tucker Carlson, for example.
I mean, think about the layers of censorship.
It's like, not only how dare you say what you said, but how dare you even be interviewed by someone that we don't like?
That's totalitarianism right there.
Yeah, it definitely is.
And this is a period where it's so clear that we're heading towards fascism, that it has to be okay to have dialogue in this country.
I mean, if we don't have that, then we're not a democracy.
You know, if people have, if, you know, really serious scientists like Dr.
Robert Malone, you know, get taken down from Twitter, you know, I was even, you know, if you think about it, that we currently can have a president taken off Twitter, we can have Congress people taken off Twitter, And yet, you know, people who were not elected to anything, like Dr.
Fauci, who are so entangled with corporate interests, get more and more power.
And that's not what is supposed to happen in a democratic country.
That's right.
That's right.
Well, and extending this even further, looking at where this is going, one big question that I'm sure many people have is, how does Skyhorse Publishing continue to function in this environment?
Aren't there efforts to try to debank or deplatform your company?
Yeah, so what's happened so far is that there have been some hit pieces on me personally.
There have been lots of things said about Skyhorse Publishing.
But for some reason, I mean, I'm not really sure what it is.
About publishers so far, but there really hasn't been...
I mean, the pushback more has been that bookstores don't carry the book or that some platforms, like big tech platforms, won't let you advertise for any of these kinds of books.
So once again, they just come back with a statement saying that it's misinformation.
So are you confident in your ability to be able to continue to publish books that challenge official narratives?
Yeah, so, you know, I'm going to do that.
So if there are any consequences, I'm not really concerned.
I mean, Tucker Carlson asked me whether I was afraid to publish books like this and worried, you know, what the consequences might be.
And my response was that I'm more afraid of the consequences of publishers not publishing books like this.
Absolutely.
And, you know, the censorship has now extended into the arts.
So there are songs that are banned off of Twitter.
There's street art that is being banned and taken down that is not allowed to be shared on Facebook.
And so I think you make a very important point that if this trend...
If fascism by the left continues, then there will be no allowed music, art, movies, books, writings, speech, podcasts, nothing other than what is approved by them.
And even what's approved is an ever-shrinking window of allowable speech, isn't it?
Well, so what I think people have to recognize is that when you go down the path of letting any group censor other groups, then it's going to come back to bite you at some point.
That either you're for censorship or you're not for it.
And if you're for it, then at some point somebody else is going to have more power in some situation, and then you're going to suffer for it.
Well, yeah, absolutely.
If you agree with the right to speak freely, then you must support it among those with whom you disagree, by definition.
But let me ask you this, though.
As a publisher, you make decisions about what to publish and what to reject.
Now, that's not, I wouldn't call it censorship, but you obviously have the right to reject, and you probably reject 99% of the manuscripts you get.
But how do you decide what to approve and what to reject?
So what I'm looking for is strong arguments on both sides.
So, you know, that's what I base it on, how strong the argument is, and how well written it is.
Well, okay.
But then, I mean, if you don't mind me asking, you know, a couple of hard questions, then how is that determined in your company?
Do you have a group of editors who review manuscripts and make recommendations to you?
Are you the final decision maker?
Or kind of how does that process actually take place, if you don't mind me asking?
Yeah, so we have about 20 people who read manuscripts that come in.
And, you know, if it's in any way controversial, I would be the one making that decision.
But you've proven you're willing to publish books on both sides of strong controversies.
Right, right.
So what about, I mean, just theoretically, if someone had a manuscript that was pro-fascism, let's, I don't know, maybe some Antifa supporters or something who claim to be anti-fascist, but we know how that works, and they want to publish a book with Skyhorse that wants a total government lockdown of society and the end of human freedoms.
I mean, USA Today is...
Just had an editorial where they said the state should take away all children from all parents.
There should be no parenting allowed.
Would you entertain a book that made that argument?
No, definitely not.
And why not?
Well, because, you know, first of all, we live in a democracy.
I care about freedom of speech.
So I'm not going to publish books where the goal of that book is to stifle speech.
Or to stifle people's constitutional rights.
And then my other sense is that That if the mainstream narrative is really strong, that there's no need to really publish books that say what everybody's saying on, you know, nightly news and newspapers, because that's already out there.
So, you know, much of the time, what you need is the counter argument, is the other narrative that's not being covered.
Well, that's a really good point.
And I remember it wasn't that long ago when the political left in America was all about the counter-argument.
I remember when Bush was president, it was all anti-war.
And then when Trump was president, it was cool to be anti-government and to join the protests.
And suddenly that's all switched around and you're a terrorist if you question the narrative.
That's where we are now.
Crazy.
Yeah, that really is crazy, you know, because the left used to always think that the way to win an argument was to have a better argument, not to stifle anybody else's right to make an argument.
Yeah, now they think you should win the argument by having a bigger Molotov cocktail.
Right.
Okay, we're going to wrap up this segment here on Brighteon.tv, Tony, and thank you for handling some of my skeptical questions there.
Folks, this conversation continues on Brighteon.com and the extended interview.
Thank you for watching today here on Brighteon.tv.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon and an advocate of free speech, and be sure to watch the remainder of this interview on Brighteon.com.
We've got more questions for Tony.
Thank you for watching today.
Okay, we're just going to continue here, Tony.
And again, thank you for standing by and thank you for being open to my questions because I'm curious as well, you know, how this works.
I think the point you just made is the strongest point of all.
If every corporation and every media outlet and every politician is saying all the same thing in lockstep...
Where is the counterargument to that?
And that counterargument may, in fact, be the strongest argument.
And that's the role that Skyhorse very often plays, correct?
Right, right.
So publishing on both sides doesn't necessarily mean that it makes any sense to publish a book that makes an argument that is made all day long.
Right.
That anybody can just kind of turn on the news or look at the front page of the Washington Post and hear that story.
So, you know, that's not what I'm doing and that just doesn't make sense.
Now, if you look at the history of Skyhorse Publishing, it has been a lot of books that have nothing to do with politics.
I mean, books on gluten-free eating, exercise, fitness, preparedness, survival, a broad spectrum of topics.
But it seems like now you're known for, well, especially for the Bobby Kennedy new book, which is, is that the most successful book in the history of your company?
Yeah, definitely.
Okay, okay, great.
And I'm glad that's the case.
But looking at the whole history of the books you've published, I mean, you've done a lot in a lot of areas that are not politically charged.
Yeah, we've had 57 New York Times bestsellers, and they've sort of run the gamut of all kinds of books, books about sports, history, politics, health and fitness, practical books of all kinds.
Yeah, that's really amazing.
I'm really glad that you exist and you're doing what you do.
Let me ask you a question about supply chain and how do you publish books so quickly?
Even though I know it takes a few months, but people need to realize you have to get it printed and then bound and the book cover has to be printed separately and this is an international operation.
How do you turn these books around so quickly?
Yeah, it's been really tough.
One of the things that I think works well is that it's a pretty small company, so I might get on the phone with the head of a printing company and beg them to get me the book quickly, which might work better than somebody from a multinational publishing company just wouldn't do that.
So I get involved in all the details of the publishing process.
But some books really need to come out quickly.
And the idea that that isn't possible is just clearly untrue.
It's just a question of how hard you're willing to work.
Well, clearly you're willing to work very hard to get this done.
Yeah, with the Bobby Kennedy book, it was the most difficult time, I think, in the history of publishing to get a book printed and bound and shipped quickly.
It was just a nightmare.
I mean, Simon& Schuster that does our trade distribution and warehouses our books, they canceled or postponed 200 books in the fall season because they couldn't get them printed.
So we were able to have 400,000 copies of this book printed on short notice and get it shipped.
So wait a second.
What's the problem with the printing?
Is it the labor supply collapse or paper or what?
Yeah, so there have been big paper shortages.
So one of the things that you'll find with this book, The Real Anthony Fauci, is that I've gotten calls from people saying, hey, I have two copies of the book, and one of them is really thin, and one of them is really thick.
Is there some scam here?
Did somebody else print the book?
What's the story?
So I say, no, the story is that we've printed it at five different printers on about 10 different kinds of paper.
Right.
So most publishers don't have that kind of flexibility, so they have long-term deals and they only print on one or two different kinds of paper.
So I was willing just to get this book out quickly to do it on all kinds of different paper that they had because I thought that the message was what really mattered, not whether it's an inch thick or half an inch thick.
Yeah, yeah, good point.
And to those of you preppers out there watching this, I'm going to wave my finger at you just a little bit.
You bought too much toilet paper, and now the paper supply was not available for the books.
You almost interrupted the printing of Bobby Kennedy's book.
Okay, that's a joke, but the supply chain is a problem.
One more question for you.
There's a resurgence of interest in the printed word.
People are wanting to go low-tech precisely because of this censorship.
So people don't want an electronic book often because they know that Amazon, for example, Amazon Kindle, they can delete the book off your device.
That has happened in the past.
Or, even worse, they could digitally alter the book without you knowing it.
So, your comments.
Yeah, so I think there's been an incredible upsurge in reading, and even more so of reading these kinds of books.
So the fact that a book could sell 700,000 copies without being reviewed anywhere, without being available in most places, It's shocking, and it's showing you that people are really willing to fight to get the books and to hear the narrative that they want to hear or that they feel that people are trying to prevent them from hearing.
So people are just getting tired at this point.
After two years, they're just getting sick and tired of being told what to do or what to think or what to read, and they're just not willing to accept that anymore.
Well, under a truly Marxist system, The government would eventually outlaw a lot of your books.
Have you considered that as a possibility of what may happen?
Yeah, I mean, it's really hard to outlaw books.
It's a lot easier to delete things from the web or to bar you from Twitter or from different platforms.
There's something about books.
People can just pass them around.
They can be easily shipped.
You know, so if we get kicked off certain platforms, we just go to some other platform.
And that's, you know, that's happening though, you know, with the big tech platforms too, is that, you know, there are new places that are cropping up and they're really growing quickly because people don't trust the media that they're able to easily get.
Absolutely.
Well, let me mention this possibility to you here.
You know Mark Zuckerberg is working on the metaverse, which currently requires wearable goggles.
But you know the technology exists to have augmented reality in contact lenses, so you just wear contacts.
Now...
In that world, if you allow the system to control what you see, even physical books could be censored in your vision, where if you were to hold up, let's say, the real Anthony Fauci book, the book cover would be blacked out in your vision through the augmented reality contacts.
Have you ever thought about that as a coming form of censorship, of augmented reality overlays censoring the real world?
That would be scary.
There are so many scary levels of censorship now that I have no idea how we would combat that.
Yeah, I know.
We would have to rescue people by ripping the contacts out of their eyeballs and saying, look at the real world, you know, something like that.
There's books everywhere!
But metaphorically, you know, it's not that much different right now.
You know, you can search for four things and just get the same narrative time after time because there's so much control of Google and Facebook and that sort of thing.
Well, that's a good point, yeah.
They're controlling people's entire reality just through Google and Facebook and so on.
But one really, really fascinating thing is that it really seems like, you know, Dr.
Fauci and people like him are doing it for the money, you know, that there are these crazy financial entanglements.
Fauci's the best paid, you know, public official in the country.
he's got the got a $350,000 per year retirement package.
Whereas somebody like, you know, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. isn't making a penny from his book, is donating all the royalties.
You know, many of the people who are part of his nonprofit Children's Health Defense are, you know, volunteers.
You know, so there's so many people working so hard.
And what you can see by that, when somebody like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is willing to work, you know, 15 hours a day for nine months on a book, not make a penny on it, You know, what you learn from that is that he can win, is that people who are willing to just fight for what they believe in versus people who are just fighting to extract more money out of people, you know, in the long run,
you can see that they're likely to lose that battle.
Absolutely, and I've been amazed over the last two years of how many people have come to what I will describe as our side, which is the side of health, freedom, and liberty, body autonomy, People who otherwise never would have thought that they would be on, quote, our side, but they've been forced into that position.
Even Dr.
Robert Malone, for example, you know, he's a mainstream pro-vaccine scientist most of his career.
You never would have predicted.
That he would be out now warning with credibility about the depopulation effort that might be, you know, accentuated through these vaccine injections.
But what it shows is his courage, his intellectual courage of being able to accept new ideas.
Right.
And then, you know, people like him and like Bobby, you know, are doing something that, you know, not only is there no financial benefit to them, but, you know, there's so much harm to their lives.
I mean, they're losing friendships, their careers, you know, they're kind of risking it all.
They are.
And I think that goes back to what you said before, that sort of people on the right and the left really respond well to that at some point.
So even though Bobby Kennedy is a Democrat, so many Republicans respond well to him because they see that he's a person of principle.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think I've seen the media start to call people like Dr.
Robert Malone, quote, right-wing, which is utterly false.
That in no way describes Dr.
Malone.
I mean, I guess next they'll call Bobby Kennedy right-wing, which is absurd.
Yeah, I mean, what he is, is he's anti-corruption.
That's right.
That isn't right-wing or left-wing, and he's, you know, pro-safety, pro-vaccine safety, pro-health for all children, for all people.
So, you know, once again, that has no right-wing or left-wing side to it.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, we're going to wrap this up here in just a minute, but I want to ask you and mention, you know, we talked about going old school back into physical books.
And by the way, for those of you watching, another advantage is there's no Orwellian cloud-based system that knows what you've read.
And they don't know where you are in the book.
Your bookmark is a physical thing.
So why would you want an Orwellian system monitoring what you're reading?
That's just cognitive privacy.
But there's also a movement back to vinyl records.
And I don't know if you want to get into the record publishing business, but add more complications.
But I'm actually going to be putting out...
I've explored this.
I'm trying to put out an audio recording on vinyl.
You can put 44 minutes on two sides of a record, it turns out.
But the wait time is 16 weeks to get them pressed, right?
But think about it.
It's physically there forever.
It can't be erased in the cloud, and EMP attacks even can't erase it.
It's physically encoded in the vinyl of the pressing, just like ink and books.
Yeah, I mean, there really is something great about knowing that something can't be changed.
You know, that a physical book, it's there forever.
Yeah.
Well, I would imagine there's a lot of interest.
Have you ever thought about printing certain kinds of preparedness or homesteading books on a really long-term, high-quality paper that would not age as normal paper does?
Yeah, that's a good idea.
I mean, I'm not sure, you know, what kind of paper that would be.
But, you know, I don't like the fact that many of the books that we print now, if you look at them in five or 10 years, they're all sort of turning yellow.
Right, right.
I mean, I love to go in and use bookstores.
And, you know, the pages are still readable, but they are turning yellow over time.
But I guess with additional costs, it's possible to print books on really durable paper that would last a century or so.
Would that be possible?
Yeah, I mean, there are lots of books that were printed, you know, You know, in 1780 that are still, you know, pretty easy to read and the paper is just the very highest quality.
So it certainly is possible to print on better paper.
So, you know, it's just a question of finding that paper now.
Well, how about hemp paper?
Alright, so here's my idea for you, Tony.
We're going to go right back to the Constitution, which is on the Bill of Rights.
I mean, it's on hemp paper, I believe.
So let's print a prepper book on hemp.
I mean, it might cost $100, but believe me, people would love it.
Let's print a prepper book on hemp that will last for generations and just call it, you know, this will not vanish even if society does.
Right?
Well, if you find a company that is doing sort of commercial hemp paper, I would print your books on that paper.
Okay, all right.
You've given me a homework assignment.
And to the audience, we have to find a hemp printing company that will print with permanent inks on hemp, and we'll figure out what to put in there.
But I love this idea.
Okay, Tony, thank you for entertaining all my wild ideas.
Is there anything else you want to leave us with here as we wrap this up?
Just that I love this book, and I think it's the most important book that I've ever published, and I hope that you'll all read it.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, for real, folks.
Get that book.
It's also available as an audiobook on audible.com.
I have that as well, and it is probably the most important book that you can read today.
Well, let me say other than the Bible.
I would say Bible first, this book second.
Maybe the Bible, the Constitution, and then...
There we go.
Okay, yeah.
The Bible, Constitution, and then the real Anthony Fauci.
Thank you for the correction, Tony.
Thank you for joining us today.
I really appreciate your time.
It's been a pleasure talking with you today.
Thanks so much.
All right.
Take care.
And for those of you watching, as always, feel free to repost this interview on other platforms.
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I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com.
And you can get many of these books at brighteonbooks.com or check your local bookseller.
And if you can, folks, support your local book retailer.
Don't let Amazon dominate the entire market.
That's my opinion, not Tony's opinion.
Buy it anywhere you want.
But I love to support local retailers, the brick-and-mortar stores that are struggling to survive.
So go out and buy a physical book locally if you can.
Thank you for watching today.
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