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May 24, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Attorney Thomas Renz describes the coming PROSECUTIONS of those who carried out COVID crimes
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We the people always have the power.
We have always had the power.
We will always have the power.
No government can govern without the consent of those that it governs.
And as we the people stand, it doesn't matter how corrupt they are.
Because if of the 320 or 340 or whatever million Americans there are, if enough of us stand up and say, "I'm sorry, we're not accepting this, we're changing this," it will change.
Welcome to the Health Raging Report here on Brighteon.tv.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
Today we're joined by attorney Thomas Renz.
How do I even begin to describe Thomas Renz?
He's a humanitarian.
He's a courageous attorney.
He's a whistleblower.
He works with whistleblowers.
He's been sounding the alarm over the shocking increase in injuries, autoimmune disorders, neurological injuries and cancers in active duty military personnel via the D-Med database.
We're going to ask him about that today.
He's also speaking out against the DHS declaration that claims anyone who disagrees with the government's stance on COVID is now a terrorist.
And then finally today, we're going to talk about accountability for those who are responsible for these crimes against humanity.
The death clot shot vaccines, the pandemic, the gain of function research.
How do we hold them accountable under the rule of law?
We'll ask attorney Thomas Renz those questions and much more today.
Stay with us.
We'll be right back after this break.
All right, welcome back to the show, folks.
Mike Adams here, and we are joined by attorney Thomas Renz, and his website is Renz-Law.com.
We'll put that on the screen for you.
Thomas, just, by the way, massive applause for you and your work for humanity, and welcome to the show.
Oh, man, Mike, thank you so much.
I mean, you've given so much to support us and help us.
I couldn't be more grateful, and I hope everybody watching knows what kind of a hero you are.
I don't think of myself as a hero at all.
I just feel like you.
We're like brothers and sisters fighting for the survival of the human species.
That's what I feel like every day.
What about you?
Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm some schlub from Ohio.
You know, I mean, I'm not even sure why anybody, I can't get my wife to listen to me, let anybody, yeah.
So I don't know why anybody listens, but I'm glad that, you know, God's blessed me with the platform and by, you know, making friends like you who can help me to promote the platform, to stand up for the people who don't have a platform.
So we're going to keep doing that.
Well, I love the fact that you just took it upon yourself.
You know, you didn't wait for someone to tell you what to do.
You didn't wait for some big wealthy donor to come along and give you a million dollars.
You just started doing it.
And then, you know, you're raising funds as you can.
And by the way, as long as we're mentioning it, how can people financially support your firm and your efforts?
So if you go to rems-law.com, we actually finally, you know, I mean, like two years in, we put up a give, send, go.
And what we want to do is, you know, I don't, if a big wealthy donor wants to give us money, that's fine.
But we will never, ever be accountable to anyone but God and our country and our families.
We're going to fight for what's right.
So we want a million people to give a dollar each or $5 each or $10 each.
Just give what you can per month.
Give us $5, $10 a month so that we can keep fighting.
The more we have, the more we'll fight.
I now have good, real attorneys who are not in it for the money, who are in it for the cause, who are willing to fight with us.
And if we can fund them, we can keep them real busy fighting this cause.
So I'm praying for whatever support you'd be willing to give.
And there's a sense, I think, among people that we've reached a turning point, that we're beginning to win this war.
Well, I don't know if war is the right word, but this assault on humanity.
And the Canadian truckers, I think, really with their courage and their dedication to a peaceful process, they've really set an amazing example for everyone around the world.
I think that represents a turning point for all of us.
What's your take?
I agree with you.
I mean, the two things that I'm very excited about, one is something that, you know, those truckers, those guys, they're my people, right?
Right?
I don't, I'm not, nothing, you know, everybody's like, oh, you're a big shot.
No, I'm not.
I'm just some guy from Ohio.
I'm like them, right?
I'm a guy who's taken a stand, and I love these guys.
I admire them.
They're heroes, and I support anything for them.
God bless you guys.
I hope this gets to you.
I pray for you.
And maybe because of them.
These heroes in the military coming out and getting this date out was the other thing that I think is a real turning point because now the elected officials in Washington are on notice.
And this is smoking gun stuff.
They're trying to cover it up, but they're failing miserably.
And...
I mean, I think those two things together present a real turning point, so much so that the DNC came out yesterday and said that Democrats need to have an exit plan for COVID before the election, or they'll get slaughtered, which they will.
Well, it's funny you say that because I think they've already administered their own exit plan by taking the vaccine.
I mean, aren't they committing vaccine suicide themselves?
Sadly, I don't get any joy out of saying this, Mike, but you know as well as I do that for a lot of people that's going to be true.
There's going to be millions and millions of people that either die or have lifelong health issues because they decided to do this.
I guess my people, the smart people who stayed away from it, are going to thrive, but it doesn't make me feel any better.
It's a sad, horrible thing.
Well, yeah, it is a sad, horrible thing.
I mean, it's a war on humanity and people like you and myself and many others have worked so hard to sound the alarm to try to save those, even those with whom we don't necessarily agree politically.
But we've been met with arrogance.
We've been met with slander and defamation attacks against both of us by the very people that are literally committing suicide.
And most of them, I would estimate, At least a third, maybe two-thirds, will be dead in the next decade from what they've done to themselves, even as we try to stop it.
But, you know, we can't save everybody if they are dedicated to death and destruction.
No, and it's really a heartbreaking situation.
You know, as Christians, the only thing we can do is pray for people.
You know, to my knowledge, nobody's really got a cure for this jab, and I don't know what we can do about it to help them, but yeah, you're exactly right.
The thanks we've gotten for trying to save people is to be slandered and ridiculed and attacked, and that's okay.
I mean, that's just part of the deal.
I figure if I'm going to punch the devil in the nose, the devil's going to punch back.
Let's talk about the devil punching back.
There is the devil Homeland Security Agency, DHS, that has issued a warning.
I mean, it's a crazy statement that basically says that anyone who disagrees with the government's official position on either COVID or elections is somehow a domestic terrorist at this point, which, you know, number one, it's bizarre because the government's position keeps changing.
So, you know, which version are you supposed to agree with?
But what's your response to being named, essentially, labeled a terrorist by DHS? Well, I mean, my first response, because you've got to understand, you know, as an attorney and as someone that's, you know, standing for a lot of the people or standing with a lot of the people who are fighting this, you know, the second this happened, my phone blew up.
And everybody's like, oh, my God, they're labeling everybody who puts out disinformation a terrorist.
And my response was, Great!
Fauci's finally getting labeled a terrorist!
But joking aside, though, I look at this alert, right?
And I read it, and it says...
You know, they cite people who are sowing or, you know, creating distrust in these public institutions.
And so I've said this a few times on a few interviews and I'm going to say it again and I'm going to keep saying it until my tongue falls out.
Let me tell you, DHS, what I am doing.
My goal, my intent, my everything that I'm trying to do.
I want to sow as much distrust in these public institutions as I can.
We should distrust you because you're crooks.
You're frauds.
You're liars.
I've got Anthony Fauci on record lying.
I've got all sorts of people lying.
We've got the data.
We've got the evidence.
And our nation was founded on people who didn't just blindly trust the government.
Maybe you've forgotten that.
The First Amendment is about people not having to tote the line.
What you're talking about when you say, I either trust the government or else, is communism.
That's what they do in China.
We're not doing that here.
And I will stand by that until my dying breath.
Over my dead body are my kids going to grow up in a country where they have to swear allegiance to a bunch of crooks and bureaucrats.
And that's what you're saying.
So if you guys want to put any of my friends, any of these people who are heroic enough to tell the truth on any sort of a list on this, I look forward to seeing you in court over it.
Well, yeah, absolutely.
And I've said publicly, it's pretty clear that this illegitimate government, the Biden regime, That is an enemy occupying force.
They stole the election.
They rigged the votes.
They committed massive fraud and treason and so on.
They are engaged in psychological terrorism against the American people.
They've been engaged in biological terrorism, pushing the vaccines and pushing SARS-CoV-2, gain of function, research, bioweapons, and so on.
And yet then they call us terrorists.
And the thing I don't understand in that statement, if I remember correctly, DHS was warning that people who disagree with the government on vaccines might be planning on attacking the power grid or something.
I was like, what?
I mean, it tells me that they plan on attacking, the government plans on attacking the power grid and then somehow blaming anti-vaxxers.
They're not even, that's not even related.
I mean, people who don't take vaccines, they still love electricity, by the way.
So where's that even coming from?
Yeah, and I mean, what kind of stupidity is that?
I mean, really?
Really?
I mean, you know, let's stage another event.
Let's do another January 6th fake event to try and scare people.
Yeah, listen, this garbage isn't going to work.
These guys are trying to bully and intimidate us.
They're trying to use the power of the government to intimidate real people.
And you know what?
I'm not big.
I'm just some schlub in Ohio.
One guy.
You know how intimidated I am?
Zero.
You guys can pound sand.
I'm just going to tell you, I don't care.
You know, we committed, and Mike, you and I have talked about this.
We committed a while back to standing.
We've got to stand.
We've got to take a stand on this.
We've got to fight.
We've got to do what's right.
My flag is firmly planted into the sand here.
I am not moving.
This is wrong.
They're murdering people.
I got the data.
You can't argue with the data.
You can try and cover it up, but it's not working.
And, you know, listen...
We're going to fight this, and you can't intimidate me into silence.
Yeah, and that's exactly the attitude of the convoy truckers in Ottawa, and that's why it's working.
Because when you reach a point and you say, I will not be intimidated, I will not back off of this line in the sand of protecting humanity...
And you add to it, I mean, yeah, we will not use violence.
That's not what we're doing.
We are opposed to violence.
We are opposed to vaccine violence, to government violence, medical violence, ventilator violence.
We are opposed to all forms of violence against people.
But we are not going to be intimidated and back off.
If enough people do that, it works.
It works.
The government.
I mean, you withdraw consent from the tyrants and the tyrants crumble.
Yeah, well, I mean, listen, our role models are great.
We've got the, listen, we've got the playbook.
Martin Luther King was one of the most brilliant people.
Martin Luther King, at a time when black people were viewed as less than human, stood Fought against the powers that be and gained the rights that they should have always been there.
The man was a hero.
He was brilliant.
He did it peacefully.
He did it right.
Jesus Christ, Mahatma Gandhi, we have loads of role models.
We know how to do this.
But you know what none of them did?
None of them cowered in fear.
None of them backed down.
Rosa Parks sat where she sat and that was it.
There was no backing down.
And those are the heroes that we have to follow.
They didn't get violent.
They weren't crazy.
They didn't do anything bad.
They just stood.
And they stood on principle.
Those are my heroes.
Those are the people that I'm trying to stand with because they're the people that I look at as role models.
You're exactly right.
And to add to that, let us not forget the history that each one of those people you named, except Rosa Parks, was subjected to government violence against them.
So in the case of Dr.
King, of course, he was assassinated as a government-involved conspiracy.
So the FBI wrote him a letter telling him to kill himself.
The FBI was waging kinetic warfare against black Americans at the time, kind of in a similar way that the FBI is waging warfare against conservatives today.
And then, of course, Jesus Christ, need I say, you know, the Roman Empire, the violence against him, and then Gandhi as well.
The thing about all the violence and all the arrests.
So what each of these individuals showed was that you win by forcing the evil governments to expose their own violence and their own anti-humanitarian ways.
That's the genius of peaceful protests, and that's what's being accomplished right now all around the world.
Absolutely.
The way to eliminate the darkness is to shine light upon it.
And that's what we're doing.
I mean, listen, we've known, you know, I didn't know.
You knew long before I did.
I had no idea.
So, you know, I was pro-vax up until just a year ago, maybe.
Until this COVID thing came.
My family is fully vaxxed.
I had no idea.
My wife will never let me forget the conversation.
She came in and was telling me about some Hollywood person who was talking about a link between autism and vaccines.
I told her she was nuts.
I was like, that's just crazy.
What, the whole medical establishment is being lied to or wrong?
I had no idea.
But then this happens, and it was my red pill.
And so, you know, you guys knew this before me.
I was wrong.
I have no problem admitting I was wrong.
I'm not wrong now.
We've looked at the data.
We've looked at the evidence.
I was wrong before because I made an assumption without looking at it because I trusted the These liars and scumbags in our government and in big business.
I should have looked at it myself first.
I didn't.
Now they're telling us that if we want to look at it ourselves and we want to question them, there's some sort of a terroristic act in doing that.
That is the...
Absolute definition of tyranny.
That is unconstitutional.
It is uncalled for.
It is unheard of.
And Joe Biden should come out and publicly apologize tomorrow and have a public rebuke of whatever scumbag DHS wrote that.
Well, I agree with you.
Of course, that's very unlikely to happen.
They're more likely to just keep doubling down on it.
But let's talk about some of the data that you've uncovered.
One of the things that you've done really well...
You've done a lot of things well, but one of them is you've had whistleblowers come to you and give you data, Medicare data in one case, I believe, and then even state-level Medicaid data.
But more recently, the DMED database, the Pentagon's own database of injuries and illness among active-duty military.
Now, you made a lot of waves with announcing that Could you give us an overview of initially what you found and then how the Pentagon has tried to twist and lie and cover up your findings with more lies from the Pentagon?
Give us that story.
Yeah, so this is amazing, Mike.
So here's the very compressed version.
So we get this data, and the data shows, you know, infertility skyrocketing, miscarriages skyrocketing, over 1,000% of average on diseases of the nervous system.
Just everything skyrocketing.
Cancers.
Yeah, cancer especially.
Cancer is shocking how bad it is.
And we're seeing this skyrocket, and it's a mind-blowing thing.
So everybody's looking at this, and it's like, oh my God.
So we make it public.
Now, wait a minute.
Just back up just one second.
I want to be clear.
This is the database that's specific to active-duty military personnel, right?
And this database is not something that anyone can publicly contribute to like VAERS, correct?
Correct.
No, so let me explain the database.
So the database, DMSS is a defense medical surveillance system, and that is basically electronic medical records for our military personnel.
It's viewed as the most complete and comprehensive database on the planet.
It's one of the best sources of health information there is.
Scientists, researchers, public health experts, they all look at this and study it because it's such good resources.
Because, you know, if you're sick in the military, you go to the military doctor, the doctor records it.
It's not recorded by the public, it's the military.
And it's doctors and nurses and things like that.
So on top of the DMSS database is a database called DMED, and that's the Defense Medical Epidemiology Database.
Because the defense medical records are so good, and they knew that people wanted to look at them, and scientists needed to evaluate them, and also that they needed to make sure that, you know, if our soldiers get sick, they know what's going on.
So they create DMED. And all DMED does is look at the medical records, takes the names off because it's got to be anonymous because you can't give out personal medical information, and then allows people to organize it and search it and find information easily.
So that's all it does.
So DMED is the premier tool for epidemiologists to study what's going on with health.
The data in DMED has been cited in more medical journals and peer-reviewed studies and other things than I can count over the years, and it's historically been a place that people go to, right?
So this is the best data on the planet.
The best data on the planet showed that Hundreds of percent increases in cancer.
Hundreds of percent.
Hypertension, I think, went over 2,000%.
The only thing that had changed from 2020 to 2021 was the jab.
There was no spike on anything in 2020, so we know it wasn't COVID. It was very even.
One more thing.
I'm sorry to interject, but these data, as I understand it, were only up to, what, the third quarter of 2021?
Yeah.
October, November, depending on the piece.
So yeah, it wasn't even the full year.
That 300-400% wasn't even the full year.
It's actually worse than that if you look at the full year, but it wasn't available at that time, so we didn't get to see the full year.
But yeah, this data was shocking, even using 10 months, you know?
I mean, it was just incredible.
So This DMED data, which is the premier data in the world, showed these horrifying results.
MS, all these different types of cancer, all these issues with clotting and hearts and strokes and seizures and you name it.
So we go and we present this, and by the way, I had declarations under oath.
The data was taken off.
We had two people in the room filming on two different cameras when the data was taken off the servers.
And it was also taken off by more than one individual, and more than one individual had it recorded.
So, you know, it's really good, right?
So we got this data.
We make it public.
There's shock, naturally.
There should be.
Because, hey, wait a second, everybody's lying.
Well, they are.
So the data's public.
And then guess what happens?
The DOD doesn't respond to us, the attorneys, and it doesn't respond to Senator Johnson, who wrote letters.
They respond to PolitiFact, where they know no one will ask any questions, and they respond with this really bizarre statement that says, oh, there was a glitch in the data from 2016 to 2020.
Wait a minute, a five-year glitch?
Yeah.
I mean, what?
There's more.
There's more.
They said 2021 is correct.
So let me lay this out.
There's three considerations, right?
So this is a cover-up.
It's fraud.
It's a lie.
So they started changing data in the DMED, and they started changing it because they needed to cover up The fact that this was a disaster.
And they changed it backwards rather than forwards.
The reason that they did it backwards instead of forwards was they know that they want to keep giving their soldiers these jabs, so they know that the high numbers in 2021 are going to continue in the future.
So they couldn't say that, you know, well, 2021 was wrong.
They couldn't cover that up because it'll continue.
So they had to say that the previous numbers were bad.
So our baseline was wrong.
Well, here's the problem with that, Mike.
Several things.
So the first is, if you believe that, the first thing you've got to take for granted is you have to understand that if that's true, this database has magic.
It poops unicorns.
And what I mean by that is this.
The data they claim was correct for 2021, but the database was wrong up until 2021.
Now, they claim that they didn't know it was wrong until after I did the whistleblower testimony.
How did it get fixed then?
How did they fix it?
It magically fixed itself.
The unicorns in this database magically fixed the database in 2021, Even though no one knew it was broken.
Yeah, yeah, right, right.
So, okay, let's just back up one second here, please.
So right now, they are going back retroactively into the history of the database, and as I understand it, they are now fabricating and adding reports of injuries from 2016 through 2020 to raise the baseline and make 2021 not look as bad.
Is that a correct description?
That's not only correct, that brings me to point two.
To believe that the baseline was wrong, and I've got this data right here, so I'm looking over at it.
You have to believe, I'm going to use ICD code counts for an example.
So an ICD code is a diagnostic code.
When you go to the doctor and you've got a cold and they diagnose you with a cold, they enter into your medical record an ICD code that represents that you have a code.
So every time you go to the doctor and something's wrong, you get an ICD code.
So our army is about 1.4 million people.
Healthy troops.
Young people, healthy people, fit people.
And according to the numbers, they were averaging around 2 million ICD entries per year.
A little over it, right?
Which makes sense.
That's about what you'd expect.
You know, none of these, no one had any reason to doubt that.
About 2 million a year.
Now remember, this is reviewed and it's in all sorts of public health journals.
And people, you know, who have been studying this use this data.
So no one, none of the doctors or scientists studying this data from 2016 to 2020 thought there was anything wrong with that 2 million count a year.
In 2021, it jumped to 21 million, right?
So, again, they're claiming that 2021 is correct.
When they change it, the new numbers that they put into the database...
For the same thing, for ICD codes per year, went from $2 million per year to $22 million.
So they're saying that they were off by a factor of 10.
Unbelievable.
That even though the ICD code count was running around 2 million per year, nobody, none of the scientists, including Fauci who sees this, including the DHHS, none of these scientists noticed that it was off by 20 million a year, a factor of 10.
From 2016, no one noticed it.
Okay, I have two thoughts on this.
Number one, what about the data before 2016?
What does that show?
Well, so I don't know if they know this, but we might have some of that.
And supposedly they've changed some of that now, too.
So we'll see.
I haven't done any comparisons on it, but we've got a whole bunch of stuff they don't know about.
Okay.
And then secondly...
If they were adding 20 million reports then for each of these five years, they would have had to do this algorithmically.
They couldn't manually make up 20 million entries times five, you know, 100 million entries.
There must be a detectable pattern in the algorithm of what they've added, a pattern of counterfeiting or fraud.
Is anybody working on that investigation that you know of?
Well, we're having the data analyzed and we're not sure whether there was a pattern or whether they just went in and started changing numbers blunt force.
I mean, because there was, we had several different people come forth off record and say DOD is in a panic because they never thought this data would come out.
And, you know, so they're just changing things right and left.
And whether they did it, some of the numbers that we've seen don't make sense.
So you only have access to aggregate numbers, but not the individual reports that make up the 20 plus million?
We have saved a lot of stuff, and we have a ton of individual reports.
I don't know that we have all of them or not, but we've got a ton of stuff.
We might have it all.
I don't know.
I'd have to go through.
Well, it just seems to me that all it would take is an audit, and maybe Senator Johnson would be interested in this, but an audit of the new numbers, and that would turn up the fraud very rapidly because you can't just fake 100 million new entries into the system and expect to not get caught.
Yeah, well, we expect fully that that's going to happen.
I mean, listen, we're presenting this to the courts.
We're going to get this done.
We're going to try and figure out.
But, I mean, look, there's no question.
This is clearly manipulated.
It's clearly garbage.
The third point is really this.
I mean, listen...
To suggest that we now have 20-some million of these per year indicates that our military is the sickest and most unhealthy group of people in the country.
I mean, unless our entire military consists of 90-year-old bad people, I mean...
This is absolutely...
And here's the other thing, right?
Well, I mean, that does describe some of the top generals of the Pentagon, by the way.
Yeah.
Yeah, but unfortunately for us, not most of the soldiers, though.
But I mean, you know, here's the thing.
This isn't hard to call BS on.
It's very clear what's going on here.
It's very clear that this is cover-up.
It's very clear it's garbage.
And one of the things that they've got to understand is if they were wrong by $20 million a year...
And if all these scientists and all these people relied on this data for their scientific studies, peer-reviewed journals, all these different things, and if our military is truly in that bad of shape, then we'll be suing the defense contractor who missed it by that much, as well as going after all...
We need investigations on all the people who blew it by $20 million a year.
But that's not going to happen because we don't need it.
This is a lie is a lie is a lie.
Well, and hold on.
If they're, quote, correcting this now and saying they were off by a factor of 10, which is extraordinary, then aren't there thousands of published medical and scientific papers in mainstream medical journals that now need to be retracted?
Apparently.
We're going to have to retract an awful lot of them.
I mean, if they're off by this much, every one of these public health experts...
And there's going to be a lot of embarrassment, too, because, you know, if you're a public health expert and you accept it as true the DMED data and it was off by a factor of 10, well, you must suck at being a public health expert because how could you miss that?
It's not like it was off within a confidence interval.
It was off by a factor of 10.
Well, right.
And by the way, if they're admitting that it could be off by a factor of 10 in the past...
Then couldn't VAERS also be off by a factor of 10?
Couldn't it be that there are 10 times more reports than what we've seen so far?
I mean, their system has no integrity, no computational integrity whatsoever.
So then anything is possible.
And like you said, how is it that when the vaccines got introduced that the database magically knew to fix itself?
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot of things that make this more than a little bit of a stretch.
And, you know, I've said before, and I'll say again, you know, hey, for any of you soldiers that are being ordered to change this, remember, I'm just following orders didn't work out real well after World War II. Yeah.
And, you know, that's a crime.
Yeah.
Yeah, let's talk about that, but I've got to wrap up this segment, so just stay with me here, Thomas.
We've got to wrap this up for Brighttown.tv.
This conversation continues in the full version of this interview on Brighttown.com.
So if you're watching this on Brighttown.tv, we've got to wrap it up here in the interest of time.
But join me at my channel, HR Report, on Brighttown.com for the extended interview, and thank you for watching today.
Now, Thomas, let's talk about...
The motivations and what it means.
You mentioned criminality.
It seems to me, just as a casual observer, I'm not an attorney, obviously, but it seems to me that if the Pentagon is actively fudging their injury database in order to diminish the awareness of the injuries and deaths caused by a vaccine that's being given to active duty soldiers,
it seems to me that that is an act of Wartime treason to decimate U.S. military troops, to kill soldiers.
I don't know any other way to describe it.
How do you describe it?
Well, I mean, you know, I can't argue with you.
I mean, if you're actively taking steps to do something that you know is going to be damaging or injurious to tons of soldiers and then you're trying to mandate it, I mean, that seems rotten.
And listen, I mean, they've got these data.
So this data has been presented.
I mean, we know we've got FDA. We got just at the ACIP meeting on the 4th, you know, they cited the DOD data.
We know they're looking at this, right?
So, you know, the thing about this is you might also want to ask yourself what sort of liability there is for the members of ACIP and for the members of the FDA who keep voting to approve this, given that they know the danger but are not admitting it.
So I think there's a lot of liability.
And I think, you know, Mike, one of the things that I've said that really scares people when I say it, but I'll say it again.
If I point a gun at you and shoot you in the shoulder, I can't say I didn't mean to kill you and get out of a murder charge.
I still shot you If I have reckless indifference to human life, that's generally going to be a murder charge depending on the state.
So, you know, here's the thing.
If I know that the vaccines are dangerous, I know there's a very serious likelihood of them causing severe injury or death, and then I make you take them, as in the case of the military, and don't tell you about the potential for injury or death because I want to make more money off of it, What is that?
I mean, what is that?
I welcome someone to explain to me why I'm wrong.
Well, I think we have to...
And by the way, thank you for bringing up this section of our interview about accountability.
You're exactly right.
But we have to go back to World War II, I think, to find a similar situation.
And we need to ask...
How were the Nazi soldiers held accountable who participated, who were complicit in genocide against an entire ethnic group, who ran the trains, who shot innocent people?
This is a very similar situation.
This is a vaccine holocaust.
They know that they're killing people, but it's a pretty broad net, I would say.
If we start to demand accountability, which I think we should, Don't we have to include the so-called journalists who knowingly lied and pushed propaganda?
Don't we have to include big tech that censored the truth?
Don't we have to include NIH, Collins and Fauci and many others in government, FDA officials, CDC officials, doctors who are pushing this and getting paid bonus money and so on?
Isn't it a pretty broad net that we need to investigate?
Yeah, absolutely.
And that's really the most important part, it's accountability.
I mean, COVID... We're winning the COVID narrative, but the accountability issue has got to be done.
My mentor was a Nuremberg prosecutor.
I spent a lot of time looking at this stuff.
I really think it's fascinating.
And You know, this situation has so many...
I mean, going right down to, you know, prior to World War II, you know, Hitler's crew was out there claiming that the Jews were dirty and they were diseased and they needed to be separated.
And they were claiming they did vaccination experiments on them.
I mean, we know that this happened.
And it's interesting that there's so many parallels between the Nazis and what they're doing today.
And yeah, I think there's going to be a lot of widespread accountability.
Now, I do think there's a number of people who don't realize how badly they've been used.
But I think that there are an awful lot of people.
And I do think that there's complicity.
I think when you cover up, I think there's liability.
I think for the media, for big tech, all these people, yeah, there's liability there.
And guess what?
We're coming for you.
It may take a while to get there.
But, you know, we've got millions of people who are going to be suffering from lifelong health issues and early deaths.
And I'm guessing that them and their families are going to be very eager to see it happen.
And we just got to make sure that they're aware.
Well, I can see a scenario, like your comment on this, where, and this is going to take several years, I believe, to unfold, but where every corporation that profited from this genocide has their assets seized, and every principle, every...
manager, every CEO of every corporation that profited from this also has their assets seized.
I can see, I think Pfizer, for example, right now is reporting, I think, 50 plus billion dollars in profits being anticipated for the next year.
50 billion in profits.
I'm guessing they're not going to be able to hold on to that forever because it's going to be taken from them and probably put into some kind of a, you know, a vaccine Holocaust reparations fund and distributed to the victims who have managed to survive a vaccine Holocaust reparations fund and distributed to the victims who have managed to I I'm just guessing.
Again, I'm not an attorney, but what do you think about that idea that I just mentioned?
Yeah, I mean, I think we've got to look at things like that.
I mean, we have to look at ways to make this whole, right?
And, you know, the interesting thing about Nuremberg in World War II is there was no instruction manual.
These guys had to figure out how they were going to do it, and they had to, you know, come up with something.
They were a group of brilliant, brilliant people back then that did this.
But I think that that is the template that I think we have to get to.
We have to recognize that this is a once-in-a-generation type thing, and I'm not talking about COVID. I'm talking about what people did to other people for money and power.
And, you know, the last time we saw anything like this was World War II. This is a global war against humanity, against our health.
And so I think that there's going to have to be ways to hold these people accountable.
And some of it's going to have to be creative.
But if we don't have justice, there's no healing.
And, you know, the healing that has to occur isn't just the physical damage from the vaccine.
As millions and millions of people realize how badly they've been defrauded and that their lives are going to be cut short, they're going to be facing lifelong health issues because they've been defrauded, there's going to be a lot of sadness and anger and all these things.
And we have to come together and do this peacefully and do it right and get these people justice, but do it in a civil and proper way.
So I think that that's really a fascinating thing to think about.
And it's necessary that we start having this conversation.
Well, that is a fascinating conversation because what you're describing is that here we are at this moment in history where evil individuals and evil institutions are committing medical genocide, vaccine violence against innocent people. vaccine violence against innocent people.
And yet we have to remain civil in the way that we deal with them.
And I agree with you.
I agree with you.
We cannot resort to the violence that they have resorted to.
But we also have to realize that the entire court system is rigged In favor of big pharma, the media, big tech, governments are complicit in this.
So how do we even arrive at a point of critical mass where there is even the opportunity for accountability?
Because, you know, in World War II, Hitler was defeated.
We don't have the same situation today.
How is this going to unfold?
So we're seeing it unfold, right?
The truckers in Canada, you mentioned earlier, And they've got one coming in the U.S. and they've got some in the U.K. So the one thing that tyrants always fear is the people.
And that's why one of the proudest things that I can say for myself and one of the things that I always like to remind people is I'm a nobody from Ohio.
We the people have always had the power to If you're a tyrant, you're also a bit of a magician.
And the most important illusion that you have to pull on people is tricking them into believing that you have power and they don't.
We the people always have the power.
We have always had the power.
We will always have the power.
No government can govern without the consent of those that it governs.
And as we the people stand, it doesn't matter how corrupt they are.
Because if of the 320 or 340 or whatever million Americans there are, if enough of us stand up and say, I'm sorry, we're not accepting this, we're changing this, it will change.
You know, I love the Martin Luther King thing, right?
When we think about this, African Americans were viewed as less than human.
I mean, they were just, they were treated, they didn't have any power.
But enough of them stood up, and they took it.
They took it, and they should have.
And God blessed them for doing it, and God blessed them for giving us that roadmap to doing this.
They did it peacefully, they did it properly, but they did it in a way that was forceful, but civil.
They just said, listen, I'm planting my flag in the sand, and I'm going to stand behind it, period.
And they did.
And, you know, that's what has to happen here.
That's how we get to that accountability.
That's how we force it.
You know, meanwhile, everybody takes the gifts that God gave them and pushes us forward using those gifts.
I'm an attorney.
I'm a...
I don't know, big mouth, running my mouth all over the place, whether my show here or my speeches, whatever I'm doing, I'm pushing this out.
That's my gift.
That's what God gave me the opportunity to use.
And so that's what I'm doing.
Maybe your gift is art.
So make murals.
Make art.
Do something.
Inspire people.
Maybe you're a musician.
Maybe you're a comedian.
It doesn't really matter what you are.
What matters is that you use the gifts that God gave you, and you use them in a way to facilitate this.
That's how we change this.
That's how we win this.
And when we the people stand, tyranny always falls.
All right, well said.
Attorney Thomas Renz, I want to thank you for your courage and for your words of wisdom today.
I am right there with you.
You've laid out the roadmap for how we defeat evil and dismantle the systems of tyranny and really systems of mass murder against humanity.
I want to remind our viewers, your website is renz-law.com and you are able to accept donations there as well.
I think you have a link to Give, Send, Go.
Is that correct?
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
And please, folks, consider supporting Thomas Renz and his attorneys because they're fighting against obviously very powerful global interests that have unlimited budgets.
So I just want to thank you, Thomas, for joining me today.
It's been a pleasure and an honor to speak with you.
I hope we get a chance to do so again soon.
Please hang on after I wrap this up.
I want to ask you one question on the other side off air.
But thank you for joining us.
Thanks, Mike.
All right.
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