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May 23, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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LA firefighter John Knox reveals THOUSANDS of firefighters are saying NO to the jab
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Me personally and a lot of guys in our group are willing to give all of that up fighting for our freedoms.
We're fighting for the ability to maintain sovereignty in this country, to be able to have that freedom of choice.
That's such an important thing.
And so when I go out and I speak at different events and town halls and whatever it is, I really want to get people to understand that you need to be that change that you want to see.
My job is to empower you.
Welcome to the Health Ranger Report on Brighteon.tv.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and today we are joined by John Knox from Firefighters for Freedom Foundation out of Los Angeles.
Angeles.
He's a paramedic and the things that he has seen and things that he knows are going to blow your mind.
He's going to share them with us and all of you here today on the show.
And also his group is, of course, opposed to the vaccine mandates that are being pushed on first responders, not just firefighters, but law enforcement officers and paramedics, EMTs and so on across the board.
We've got a lot to talk about, especially since now the media is announcing that an Omicron variant has been discovered in California, one of them in one vaccinated individual.
So the media is pushing mass panic over that, even though it's a mild variant.
But we'll see what they're going to do with that.
So stay with us here on Brighteon.tv.
We'll be right back after this break with John Knox from Firefighters for Freedom.
Okay, welcome back, folks.
This is going to be a great show.
I'm really looking forward to this.
John, I want to welcome you.
Thank you for taking the time with us today, and thank you for all of your service in the community as a paramedic, part of the firefighting team.
Just thank you for joining us today.
This is great.
Thanks for having me.
Awesome to be here.
Well, I'll tell you what, America only survives on the backs of people like you who just barely hold the society together.
Just give us a quick background.
I know you're a board member of Firefighters for Freedom.
We'll put the URL on screen for people, but a quick background, if you would, please.
My background, I've been a firefighter paramedic for the City of Los Angeles for 21 years.
And the way our foundation came about was the end of, let's see, August.
We saw, a group of us saw that the city was going to start imposing, they were talking about vaccine mandates.
And we didn't agree with that, being that it's a mandate.
We can get into that.
So, we got a group of us together, started working in that direction, and it actually happened faster than we thought it would.
So, we got a board of directors together of 11, and then out of that, we put together a legal team.
Which includes Scott Street, John Howard, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And then we also put together a webpage for that social media platform, including Instagram, and we filed suit against the City of Los Angeles.
The suit was initially, the initial suit was based on constitutionality and What they said is the safest way to protect the workforce and the public was through vaccination, and we disagreed with that as well.
So based on those two things, that's what our first lawsuit was on.
What's the status of that suit, by the way?
Actually, so it's gone through a couple of iterations.
Right now, we actually have a court date for a preliminary injunction on December 20th.
And in the context of the recent federal decisions that have suspended the vaccine mandate nationwide for healthcare workers, does that add some weight to your arguments, your legal arguments?
Well, it should.
It should, but...
But again, we live in this weird upside-down world.
So, I mean, anytime I try and predict something or go off of sheer logic, you almost shoot yourself in the foot.
So I would say I would hope it would.
I think it would.
But again, you never know.
So I take it that you and your fellow board members and members of this group have not been vaccinated.
Is that correct?
I mean, against COVID. On the board members, correct.
None of us have.
Okay.
In a lawsuit, yes, we do have vaccinated members.
Okay.
So they've been vaccinated, but they still seek to maintain their body autonomy, their own decision making over whether they should be vaccinated, correct?
Yes.
So, you know, we've got, for different reasons, we have members that have been vaccinated due to coercion and intimidation over loss of their job.
And then we also have members that have been vaccinated by their choice and understand that it's their choice.
Yes.
I've also seen a lot of people who had been vaccinated, and then they learned more about the vaccine.
And now, if they were to go back, they would not have taken the vaccine, knowing what they know now.
Yeah, we do have quite a few of those as well, because the city mandated that you're not in full compliance unless you have the boosters.
And so the county has said, now you need the booster to be in compliance.
And so it's any and all boosters.
It's not just one.
I mean, if they come up with 27 of those or whatever, then you're...
So...
Perpetual shots.
Why haven't you and your fellow board members been fired yet, or have some of you been fired by the city?
Funny you mention that.
Oh, yeah?
That came out this morning.
I just got off the ship this morning, and...
Fifteen minutes after I got off shift, I received a letter basically stating noncompliance with the city ordinance and vaccine policy, and I'm placed off duty, leave no pay, pending termination at this point.
Wow.
Yeah, and that started two days ago.
They started that.
That's a whole host of other issues that we could talk about, but...
Right, right.
Wow, what a race against time because the federal courts and even the Sixth Circuit Court, you know, handling these vaccine mandates, this has national implications.
Would you and your fellow firefighters, would you lose benefits, pensions, retirement, things like that if you're terminated?
You won't lose your pension.
You're able to take your pension with you, but we have a lot of members as well that are under the pensionable mark, right?
I see.
So they would basically be terminated and whatever they put into their pension, they would get out of that to go with them, but they would not get a pension.
Now, let me ask you, what would happen Well, do you have any estimates of what percentage of the firefighting force there in Los Angeles might be fired under these same conditions, this letter that you just received?
And then a follow-up question.
What's going to happen to a city like Los Angeles, which, as I understand, is barely keeping on top of the situation with full employment?
What's going to happen?
So...
We have about 1,000 members in our lawsuit right now.
And our original numbers were that we had 1,600 plus or minus that weren't vaccinated.
We had about another 675 that declared to state due to privacy issues.
And so total initially, we had about 35% that were vaccinated.
So, you know, if you look at those numbers, you're Those are big numbers.
I don't have the exact numbers right now, but what we're looking at is potentially anywhere from...
We have about 27% of the department that is in the lawsuit and potentially 50% that is unvaccinated.
Wow, so we're not talking about some small percentage here.
This is a major impact.
And it's not just the fire department.
This is all city departments.
So, I mean, you're talking about sanitation, Department of Water and Power, and you're talking 27 different departments in a city that has 4 million people.
So what does that look like?
I mean, that's an absolute and sheer disaster.
Well, okay.
I have so many questions for you on this.
If they lose that percentage, even a quarter, let's say they lose a quarter of...
What's full employment?
How many firefighters are in the Los Angeles City Fire Department normally?
LA City Fire Department, we staff about 3,400 sworn members, active duty, sworn non-civilian.
Um, so, I mean, even if you lost 10%, right?
And you're looking 300.
Um, currently we are, we are in a staffing shortage.
We are unable to maintain full staffing every day.
We're force hiring, uh, guys to work.
Um, We're closing resources in the city because we are unable to keep them open.
So it increases response times.
We go into degraded mode often, which means that we're unable to take certain types of calls.
So, you know, losing any percentage of those individuals creates a significant impact.
Well, and also on that point, right, right.
This is a threat to public safety when they claim that they're protecting public safety.
But isn't this also a threat to the firefighters?
Because if you're understaffed and you go into a scene, maybe a chemical spill, not just a fire, but lots of different things that you respond to.
If you are understaffed, doesn't that also represent an increased threat of injury or death to your fellow firefighters?
Absolutely.
You know, I mean, and here in Southern California, I mean, this is the time of season starting, you know, anywhere from October through February is our brush fire season because we have Santa Ana winds that are out here.
So, you know, and we send resources all over the state as well.
So there's a lot of issues, you know, we have one campaign fire.
I mean, A big fire in the city of Los Angeles, you know, a brush fire like the one we had last year that was over off of Mulholland, the Getty fire.
And I mean, that depletes our resources so drastically that we're already in a degraded mode, having to send, you know, response times.
Now you take out even more of the staffing.
It's a huge issue.
It's a massive issue.
Well, and again, so many things.
You're familiar with the term vax-cidents, correct?
Yeah.
Now, of course, paramedics and firefighter response teams frequently respond to traffic accidents.
What have you seen yourself, or people in your group, what have you seen?
Are there more traffic accidents now than normal, or what are you observing?
Um, yes.
Well, you know, I mean, it's subjective, I guess, but at the same time, we do definitely guys talk and, and, you know, you're like, wow, we definitely have, I know personally of several incidents where guys have had traffic accidents that, you know, the patient had a bleed or whatever, a brain bleed or some other issue that created that traffic accident.
Um, we, we've, It's, you know, whether you want to call it anecdotal or whatever, it's definitely happening.
You definitely see an increase in other types of calls.
I think one of the biggest things that I see are seizure-related issues.
And we're also seeing a lot of people with neurological issues.
I think that, you know, we never saw those before, you know, but you have this uptake and you're like, well, that's kind of weird.
How come all of a sudden we have that?
Well, it's fascinating you mention that because I just recently interviewed Steve Kirsch, who has looked at the data coming out of VAERS, and there are 400 categories of adverse reactions that are now extremely heightened due to just with these COVID vaccines compared to all other vaccines in history.
And many of those are neurological.
Some are even neuropsychological as well.
But neurological Side effects are incredibly common because the spike protein attacks neurology.
Without disclosing, obviously, any personal details of victims, do you go on response calls as a paramedic and treat people?
Actually, at this point in my career right now, I'm working as a dispatcher.
I'm a 911 dispatcher now.
I work out of our dispatch center.
We process The City of Los Angeles runs anywhere from 1,800 to 2,000 calls a day in the City of Los Angeles.
That means we're processing that many calls plus because we don't send on every single thing and we have all kinds of different calls coming in.
We process, I would say, 2,500 to 3,000 calls a day come through our call center.
You definitely, when you're taking call after call after call, you notice all of a sudden when things change.
You're like, Well, we have a big uptick in this type of call or that type of call.
And so, yeah, I mean, I definitely see things that or talk to people who are like, yeah, they're having issues.
Well, what kinds of things are you hearing?
And I mean, I don't want to get you into trouble.
Well, I guess you've already been fired at this point, but no, seriously, I'm not trying to say this lightly, but what kinds of issues are you hearing in the calls that stand out as unusual?
Well, I mean, just, you know, I mean, because I don't have names and things like that, I guess I'm not really violating anybody's HIPAA rights at this point.
Correct.
Stories coming from calls that I've taken.
So I had someone yesterday who basically was having, you know, he called and he's like, my wife is acting completely erratic.
I've never seen her acting this way.
She's doing things she's never done.
She has no medical history, no issues, you know, and I'm But don't you just say that's substance abuse?
I mean, that's your first go-to, right?
Well, that's one of our things that we would dispatch on.
Has she taken any drugs or alcohol?
No.
So there's no substance abuse issues with that, right?
And so for someone, when they talk about that this person or that person's had these neurological issues that they can't explain that have just recently come on, I mean...
No history of seizures and they're now having seizures.
I mean, a seizure is a...
I mean, we all know how seizure patterns work and so on and so forth.
And usually...
In the past, you know, I mean, I've been a paramedic for 21, 22 years.
And so you usually start out having seizures as a child from some sort of neurological issue or some traumatic event, right?
So, but then now all of a sudden we're having no issues, no traumatic events, no whatever.
They haven't had them from a child and their new onset and their acute over the past, you know, six months.
You got to scratch your head and wonder why all of a sudden do we have this uptake in these types of calls?
Right, right.
I mean, again, chest pain, you know, things like that.
We see, you know, we know that myocarditis, pericarditis, those are all issues, whether from COVID or from the shot issue itself.
I've read other stories where...
Hospitals are sometimes having to stage patients outside the intake areas of the ER. You know, someone comes in, a paramedic brings them to an emergency room, and the emergency room just can't take them.
Hopefully that's not happening in LA yet, but could that happen with the hospitals firing nurses and doctors as well who haven't been vaccinated?
I mean, anything can happen.
You know, I mean, we've had, when we have a bad flu season, you know, a really bad flu season over the past years, we definitely, you're standing on a wall in a hospital waiting for a bed.
But, you know, I'm not seeing any, you know, guys that are in the field right now, you're not having any surges in COVID patients where the hospitals are overwhelmed or anything like that.
Even during the height of COVID, we, Wasn't an issue, you know, especially in the beginning where they talked about, you know, the hospitals are inundated.
We'd go there and you're like, there's nobody here.
What about the issue of law enforcement also being required to take the vaccines and therefore many members of law enforcement being let go in the context of firefighters increasingly under attack by gangs, for example, or looters or whoever?
I mean, I've heard stories.
This is my question to you.
Aren't firefighters sometimes subject to being shot at or attacked because of the suppressed law enforcement presence in the city?
I don't know whether it's because of suppressed law enforcement.
I mean, it's just a lot of times there's a lot of misguided intentions just because you're in the public sector, right?
So I can't say whether there's an uptick due to, you know, that issue or not.
Okay.
Well, all right.
Fair answer.
What's the general tenor in Los Angeles among first responders about not just the vaccine mandate, but about how they're being treated by the city?
Yeah.
They're not happy.
You know, I mean, evidence of the lawsuit.
You know, I mean, we have a thousand members in the lawsuit right now.
And so...
In addition to that, you know, our second lawsuit that we filed was for punitive damages based on the harassment and coercion.
I mean, we have a zero harassment policy in our department.
I mean, there's a whole manual on it and everything.
And now you've got your senior officers, chief officers that are creating that environment.
And so, I mean, we filed a lawsuit against the city of Los Angeles for $2.1 billion to try and put some teeth into that to get them to stop that.
So, you know, it's, no one's happy right now.
I've never seen morale inside of the fire service at a lower point than right now.
Is it your hope, and among your fellow members of Firefighters for Freedom, is it your hope to be reinstated without the vaccine mandate and perhaps with back pay?
Because if you're going to be terminated here, you're going without incomes, even though you've dedicated your lives to the city and to public safety.
What is your hope of the outcome of this lawsuit?
Yeah, definitely.
You know, everybody wants to be reinstated.
And so, again, they've stepped outside of the labor laws here in California.
We definitely have something called Skelly versus the State Labor Board.
That was a case in 1975 that went all the way to the Supreme Court.
And that ruled that there's a whole process called the Skelly process that has to happen before you go to a Board of Rights and be terminated.
And With disciplinary action, there has to be a whole process that goes through that.
And the fire service, the fire department has violated every single rule in that process.
So there's been no due process.
And that's where that came from.
And so out of that, yes, back pay would definitely.
And in the Skelly ruling, it even says that you would be reinstated with back pay.
So, you know, they're opening a can of worms that is not good for them.
So it sounds like, and I'm hearing this in a lot of court cases, that the facts are on your side very clearly.
It's frankly irrefutable.
It's just now a process of grinding through the court system to get this wrong righted.
Is that your belief and assessment of the situation?
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay, but this could take years.
Well, like I said, we have a preliminary injunction hearing on the 20th of December.
Our termination date is technically supposed to be the 18th of December.
But if the city goes ahead and does that two days prior to that court date, I mean, that's going to throw up a lot of red flags.
And the judge would, I think, have some serious questions as to why they wouldn't have waited for that preliminary injunction hearing to go through.
Well, I wonder also, if they do terminate all these people, you know, over 1,000, maybe 1,600 or more, it's not going to take very long for the local news stations and city residents to notice that, hey, bad things are happening in the city.
They're not getting addressed.
You know, firefighting is actually a very important function, not just fighting fires, but all the other things that you do as well.
Yeah, I mean, we run all the medical service in the city of Los Angeles as well, you know, and none of us want to lose our careers or our jobs, right?
I mean, I have a contract with the city of Los Angeles.
I took an oath both to the state constitution and the federal constitution to protect and serve, right?
Yeah.
Protect and defend and then serve the citizens.
And I've done that for the past 21 years, as have all the other individuals I work with.
And we want to work, but the city is pushing this issue based on illegal mandates.
It's extraordinary.
There are now calls by people such as Jim Cramer from CNBC. He is calling for the United States military to be deployed domestically to go door to door and enforce vaccine mandates at gunpoint in America.
That just happened last night.
I didn't see that.
That's disturbing.
That's a whole new thing.
In your assessment, What would be the impact of that on medical services, emergency response, and so on?
I don't even know how to respond to that.
To me, that sounds like pure lunacy.
When you think about it, what is a mandate?
It's a swipe of a pen, and it creates ruling by fiat or by regulation.
In the United States of America, we have The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.
And those enshrine our freedoms and limit the government's ability to rule us, right?
We allow them to govern, but not rule us.
And so we have the legislative branch of law, and a mandate steps outside of that.
People don't realize the difference between a mandate and a law.
And the reason...
The president did not create this into law is that he knows that he can't get both sides to come together and create a law and put this into effect.
So therefore, he just has a mandate and people think, oh, that's what, you know, the general rule of the Constitution states that anything that's repugnant to the Constitution is illegal.
Therefore, it's void.
Okay, so folks, we've been interviewing John Knox here on Brighteon.tv.
We're out of time for this segment, but hang on with us, John, for the extended interview.
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All right, we're in the extended conversation now, John.
Thank you for allowing me to interrupt you there.
Here's a question, and I don't mean this in a flippant kind of way, but looking at your camera scene in the background, people can see a cowboy hat.
You've got a Trust in the Lord poster that looks like a Bucking Bronco rider.
You've got an American flag.
You've got your badge and so on.
A lot of people are going to look at this and say, why are you still in Los Angeles?
Seriously, because that city no longer, at least in the minds of most people, how do you stay there when the city is so, or at least the city leaders, I should say, are so anti-American?
What happens in Los Angeles and California spreads across this country like wildfire.
The city of Los Angeles was one of the first ones to put the mandate out there.
And we jumped in front of this.
And, yeah, would it be easy for me to pick up and leave and go somewhere else?
Absolutely.
And, you know, I mean, I'm an outdoorsman.
I've got horses and I enjoy being out and doing whatever I do.
So, yeah, that would be great.
But at the same time, you know, I enjoy my career.
I enjoy what I've been doing for the past 21 years.
And We jumped on this in the beginning to stop this.
This is an overreach of Governmental powers by a local bureaucracy.
And again, if we take a need of this and allow this to go through, I mean, they look at if they can get the first responders to submit to this, they're just going to plow over the rest of the United States and the citizens.
And so we've taken a stance and yeah, I could move.
But at the same time, then where am I going to move to?
So if I move to Idaho or Texas or wherever I move to, it's going there as well.
So why not just stay here and fight this fight, you know, and knock it down here, set precedent here, and then, you know, allow that across the country again.
Good point, because you're kind of behind enemy lines, at least from my point of view in Texas.
You're way behind enemy lines, but you're taking the fight to them there.
And you've got Newsom, who himself, he suffered a Guillain-Barre side effects from taking the vaccine, and yet he hides that.
He won't tell people that this could harm you.
He pushes the mandate on everybody else, the city leaders and so on.
Is there a sense, I guess my question is, From the men and women who are on the front lines, firefighters, paramedics, police officers, sheriff's deputies, and so on, is there a sense now that they have been stabbed in the back or abandoned by the bureaucrats who have no freaking idea what it takes to rescue someone out of a burning car or to stop a mass shooting in a school or
whatever?
Is there a sense of that that's growing?
Yeah.
I mean, people are fed up.
I mean, not just us first responders, but I mean, people that live here are fed up with it.
You know, they took an oath, right?
They're public servants as well.
They're voted in.
And, you know...
This is what Americans need to understand is that there's no one coming to save you.
There's no politician that you're going to hire or elect or whatever that's going to come and save you.
It doesn't matter if you're Trump or you're Biden or whatever.
They're not here to rescue you.
Americans need to wake up and realize that we're here.
We have the power and the ability to save ourselves.
And so, you know, you voted those people in, vote them out.
I know we have voting issues and, you know, so on and so forth, but that's being worked on.
The point being is, this is a grassroots level.
We're not, our organization, Firefighters for Freedom, isn't a right versus a left.
I could care less if you're Liberal or conservative, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter if you're vaccinated or unvaccinated.
Our point is, is that as Americans, this is a civil right issue.
This is a human rights issue.
We were...
You know, created by God, endowed with very specific inalienable rights, and those are protected by those documents.
And as Americans, we have those freedoms and we need to maintain those.
And in order to do that, we have to be, as a grassroots organization, Look, if you and I have different political ideologies, who cares?
Let's come to the table and just have a conversation.
We can agree to disagree, right?
That's civil discourse.
And that's been stopped in this country through driving wedges in people, right?
White, Black, Mexican, whether it's race, religion, creed.
Now it's vaxed versus unvaxed.
All of these things, they're trying to...
To stop us and separate us.
We need to come together as Americans and work together to maintain these liberties that we have.
Well said.
And by the way, I think your group, Firefighters for Freedom, should be thrilled.
You're a wonderful spokesperson.
You really lay it out clearly.
And I love your principles, and we operate on the same principles.
I don't care what political party people are involved in.
This is why I interview Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
over and over again, because his book is outstanding.
And I'm right with you.
Doesn't matter black, white, Hispanic.
Doesn't matter gay, straight, cis, trans, whatever.
I mean, every person has the right to own their body and to say no to these interventions.
I thought it was wonderful.
We saw Black Lives Matter leaders marching with conservatives in New York City against the vaccine mandates.
It's like, hey, there is common ground, by the way.
And that's the thing, you know, people don't...
We don't own anything.
If you really think about it, there's nothing you own other than your body, period.
End of story, right?
And if you allow these mandates to go through, if you allow them to take your sovereignty away and your body autonomy, you have nothing.
At that point, literally, you become a slave to them.
They have 100% control over everything.
This is the last bastion of freedom is your body, period.
That's right.
That's right.
I mean, it's almost the definition of slavery when someone else owns your body and the product of your labor.
I mean, that's classic slavery right there.
But let me shift gears.
Mental health.
Want to ask your opinion on this because you're taking calls from people now...
The lockdowns.
We've had a lot of social isolation now for more than a year and a half.
We've seen a rise in suicides and psychiatric disorders and so on.
And I know people who are counselors in California who are booked out like four months.
Just people need to come in and scream or cry or whatever has to happen.
Are you seeing anything from taking calls about changes in mental health over the last year and a half?
Yeah, we get a lot of calls for psychological issues.
Everything under the sun.
We've had a large uptick in drug use, alcohol use.
During the height of the lockdowns, we saw a lot of domestic violence.
Whether that's spousal abuse, whatever.
We're experiencing it as first responders.
We've got guys between Dealing with COVID and isolation issues, going to work while everybody's at home, worrying whether you're bringing that home to your family, all of the unknowns in the beginning.
Now you're being forced with these mandates to do something against your will.
All of the issues that are going on are creating massive issues of violence.
Psychological issues inside of our department as well.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, you know, on the first responders.
I mean, we've got...
I mean, I just talked to a gentleman a couple days ago.
He's been off of work for two months now, and it's literally taken him over two months through workers' comp and everything to be seen by a psychologist.
I mean, and when you're...
How does that happen, you know?
Yeah.
That's nuts.
It's a system that's absolutely a train wreck right now.
But the thing is, it's going to get much worse if they continue to push these mandates.
I mean, like you said, sanitation is going to be short-staffed.
City finance is going to be short-staffed.
I mean, imagine what happens when the city, the payments, the paychecks, the pensions, the bondholders, when this starts getting disrupted.
You know, people are going to hit the panic button like never before.
Yep.
Again, it's not just firefighters and police officers and frontline workers.
In the city of Los Angeles, I think we have 27 different agencies, and it's spread throughout that whole thing.
So, you know, it's going to affect the city in a massive way, you know, and you have a huge workforce when you have a city of, you know, 4 million, 4 and a half million, whatever it is in the city of Los Angeles, it takes a lot of people to run that city.
So, you know, even if you have 10 to 25% of that workforce is cut.
That's huge.
That's huge.
Well, especially, I was on a police foundation in another city in the Southwest years ago, and I remember even then, the cops were saying, At full staff, we're still short-staffed.
We cannot keep up with the calls, just the law enforcement calls.
And you're right, a lot of it, they're domestic calls, substance abuse, domestic violence.
Those are the worst ones.
The cops hate that because you're walking into a nightmare of insanity with great personal risk.
Okay, so I've asked you a lot of things.
What have I not asked you that you think is important for our audience tonight?
Wow.
I don't know.
That's a good question.
I think I want people to understand that this started out originally as fighting for our jobs, right?
And of course, I want to keep my career.
I love my career.
I've been in public service a long time.
And I'm there because I enjoy it.
I enjoy helping people.
And I really get to do that every day, working in such a diverse Segment of society.
I mean, that big of a metropolitan city, you come across everything, right?
And so it's a good feeling being able to help people.
When you call 911, it's the worst day of your life, usually.
And so to be able to go out and figure out whatever their issue is and mitigate that problem, it's good to help people.
But I think as it started out for that, it's now become something bigger.
We realize that it's much more than my job, my career, pension, any of that stuff.
Me personally and a lot of guys in our group are willing to give all of that up fighting for our freedoms.
We're fighting for...
The ability to maintain sovereignty in this country, to be able to have that freedom of choice.
That's such an important thing.
And so when I go out and I speak at different events and town halls and whatever it is, I really want to get people to understand that you need to be that change that you want to see.
My job is to empower you.
If that costs me losing my job and Fighting for those freedoms so that you understand how important it is, that's something that I'm willing to do.
I think that, you know, like what's going on right now with these vaccine mandates, right, in school children.
I mean, five years old and up to 12 and then 12 and up.
And at what point...
Do you as a parent get to decide what's best for your child?
It should not be the nanny state that's doing that.
They have no ability to tell you what to do with your child.
And so fighting these issues, if you don't, you put the people in...
I think the biggest issue I see is that as Americans, we're born into this country and we're born into freedom.
And we really don't...
We take it for granted and dealing with a lot of people who are immigrants.
This country was founded on immigrants.
And one thing that I've noticed is when I talk to people that have come here from Eastern Bloc country, Central America, places where there's some serious issues with socialism, communism, totalitarianism.
They understand how fantastic and what incredible opportunity this country has to offer us.
And, you know, a lot of Americans have taken that for granted.
And so I think it's time for America to wake up again.
The sleeping giant needs to be rewoke.
And so if we can push that message out and, you know, you don't like your children being forced into vaccination, well, guess what?
Get involved in your school program, right?
They got voted in, vote them out, and you step into that position, and you be that change, right?
That's the only way that this is going to change, is if we, the people, right?
Biggest letters in the Constitution, we, the people, step to the plate and actually make change.
Okay.
Well said.
Well said.
Now, last big question for you.
And this was only prompted because I think I noticed you're wearing a paracord bracelet.
Is that right?
Or is that just a watch band?
No, it's a paracord bracelet.
Okay.
All right.
That's what I thought I saw.
So, question to you.
And, you know, you don't have to answer with any great details if it's too much.
A lot of people across America are very concerned about the collapse of city services, the collapse of law enforcement, the chaos that would ensue.
Are you taking any basic precautions, you know, preparedness to just in case this thing goes horribly wrong and the city suffers a meltdown of its ability to provide even, let's say, tap water, right, or law enforcement?
Are you taking some precautions?
Yeah, I mean, I would be remiss if I didn't say I wasn't.
You know, I mean, it would...
Yes, working as a first responder, I mean, I live in California, so earthquakes are always an issue here, right?
I mean, we had the 94 earthquakes here, and I mean, that shut the city down.
I mean, you got to remember that we have just-in-time supplies, right?
Supply chains.
So usually there's only about enough food for three days worth of...
Shopping here.
And about every three days, the grocery stores and everything.
Well, if we had a disaster, or whether it's man-made, or it's natural-made, or something with the system collapses, there's going to be a lot of supply chain issues.
So yeah, I mean, it would be foolish not to have...
Some sort of food supply, some sort of water supply, you know, emergencies.
I mean, when it snows here, we get a big snow up in the mountains.
I mean, the mountain communities, grocery stores are barren.
So, you know, that's just a snowstorm, a small snowstorm.
So yeah, I definitely have stuff that I prepare for.
And being in emergency services, I'd be foolish if I didn't.
Yeah, good point.
It's just that the city wants to be so concerned about public safety with vaccines, but how strong is the city's prepper message to the public?
Everybody should be prepared.
They almost never say that.
No, I've never heard anything like that come out of this.
See, and that's crazy.
I mean, you're living in earthquake central.
Yeah.
So, I mean, just on that alone, you should have at least a week's supply of food and water.
I mean, that's simple, even if it's beans and rice.
That's just my thought process.
Yeah, right.
And there are still a couple of nuclear power plants, I believe, close to San Andreas fault in one case.
I think that's the case.
I think there's only one left in the state of California.
Okay.
We have San Onofre here in Southern California, and they've decommissioned that.
Now, how far along on that, I don't know they are, but I think there's only one active one left in the state.
Okay.
All right.
Well, it only takes one, though, right?
Look at Fukushima.
So, you know, it's wild.
Look, I just want to thank you for your time and your perspective and your service and what you're doing.
I think you're absolutely right.
All of America supports you in this effort.
Oh, let me ask you, does your foundation, is it a foundation that can accept donations?
They can, absolutely.
Okay.
So that's firefightersforfreedom.org.
Is there a donation page on that site?
If you go to the front page, right there on the front page, there's a donate button.
You can click on that and you can donate.
All that money goes towards our attorneys, to pushing the message out, to running the foundation.
We're actually getting ready to get up and running a Another fund to help some of the firefighters that have been relieved of duty.
Possibly, you know, so we're building the airplane as we're flying.
Another feeling, yeah.
Pretty wild what's happened.
We've got chapters that we've started now as well throughout the U.S. We're growing.
So, I mean, the mandates aren't just here in Los Angeles.
And so we've had people reach out to us from all over the U.S., How do we do this?
How do we move forward?
How do we stop this?
So, yeah.
Well, I think also your organization or the organization that you're a member of there is critical beyond this one issue as well.
So I think this issue is sparking this recognition of the importance of first responders uniting in their call for freedom and to be treated with human dignity.
That's really what this comes down to, basic human dignity.
Yeah, 100%.
And if you're a firefighter in Los Angeles, you have to operate with great tolerance or you'll be fired immediately.
You can't be an intolerant bigot running around interacting with the public in Los Angeles.
So you're a tolerant person, and yet the city is intolerant toward you.
So your message is desperately needed.
Yeah, it's interesting because I have some video clips of city council meetings, their Zoom meetings or whatever, and it talks about them being vaccine discriminatory.
It's okay for them to do that.
And you're like, wait a minute, what are we talking about here?
At what point is this not okay? - Hey.
It's blatant.
I mean, it's medical discrimination.
It's actually discrimination based on the content of your blood.
Well, actually, this brings up one more question.
So, you know, looking at AIDS and HIV, and I know paramedics have been specially trained in how to deal with open blood coming from someone, right?
You take precautions.
In every case, you don't know what's in their blood.
And yet, the state of California has decided that you cannot discriminate against someone who has HIV in their blood.
Because they say, well, it's a basic human right to still be a person even when you have HIV. And I agree with that principle.
But yet, if you don't have this mRNA in your blood, then they discriminate against you.
So it's discriminating against people based on the content of what's not in their blood.
How...
I mean, that's insane!
I'm sorry to say...
I know.
It is.
And, you know, so you're thinking about it rationally and logically.
And when you use critical thinking skills, there's days it just makes your head want to pop off your shoulders.
And so, yeah, I don't know.
You know, you've got me at a loss for words.
Well, then my mission is complete.
Again, like you, you know, it's how do you put any sort of rational thought to this?
And say that it's okay.
You know, again, it comes down to the point where right now, you know, let's say you decided to take the shot, and I didn't, or somebody on my job did, and I didn't.
That was okay at one point, but now all of a sudden you're taking my choice away and forcing me to do that.
So there's no difference.
If you're a person that believes that the mandates are mandatory and they should happen and so on and so forth, What's to say later on down the pipe?
Because we know that these aren't going to stop.
So they're going to mandate something that you don't agree with.
And since you've already said you've abdicated your sovereignty, you've given up your right and said mandates are okay, you don't have a leg to stand on.
Whether that means they're going to tell you...
If your family members aren't vaccinated, you're going to lose your job.
Or maybe you can't have children if you're not vaccinated.
I mean, there is no answer to where this goes.
I'm really glad you mentioned that because that's exactly where this goes, which is sterilization, forced sterilization.
So just as they've created this global panic over COVID, they've also tried to create global panic over climate change.
And under that context, they can say that having children is a threat against humanity.
Therefore, sterilization is mandated for whatever groups that they choose, the same bureaucrats that forced the vaccine mandates.
So imagine a world where you have to apply to your state government and get permission from Newsom before you're allowed to have children.
I mean, that's the world they're creating.
And that's not...
That's not far-fetched.
It's not.
If you apply critical thinking to it, there is no difference.
It doesn't matter whether you're telling me what I have to do to keep my job.
It can apply to anything.
If you told me that I had to start taking...
I'm too toxic masculine, and you needed to put me on hormones to decrease that, to make me a little softer and a little less more not...
Threatening.
Or I lose my job.
There is no difference.
It doesn't matter.
It's whatever they want to push forward through that mandate.
The forced soy boy intervention right there.
But John, I don't think they're going to have any success softening you because you seem like a pretty tough but informed person.
And that's what we need right now.
So I'm really glad that you are speaking out.
And I didn't mean to cut you off there.
Was there something else you wanted to add?
No, you're good.
I have to inject a little humor from time to time.
Mandatory chemical castrations to stay on the force.
I mean, who knows?
There literally is no end to it.
And some people, unfortunately, we have normalcy bias in this country, right?
And That's unfortunate.
And for people who don't know what that is, normalcy bias means that, you know, oh, this is the United States of America.
That could never happen here.
Communism could never happen here.
Or this could...
This is the greatest country in the world.
It could never happen here.
But it is happening here.
And that's the problem.
You know, so you have that normalcy bias that seeps in.
And another big word is cognitive dissonance, right?
And so when you look at what that is...
Let's say that you got a shot and later you learned something that maybe there's some issues with that.
Well, instead of allowing yourself to Say, you know, I made a mistake.
You double down, right?
And you go twice as hard.
And now you go with that narrative and you just ignore all the science or anything that's out there.
To the contrary, that actually proves the point that you were right in that.
And so there's a lot of that going on right now as well.
Absolutely.
It's, you know, it's frustrating.
Well, I want to say to everybody watching to go to your website, firefightersforfreedom.org, and that's the numeral four.
And also, you have a group on Instagram.
It's the same name, Firefighters for Freedom.
And you'll probably branch out to some other platforms as well.
And I also want to encourage people, if you're thinking about year-end donations...
I want you to know, John, that America, at least the real America, the America that I know, we absolutely support first responders, law enforcement, sheriff's deputies, firefighters, paramedics, EMTs.
The call center operators such as yourself, we understand the importance of how fragile society is and who keeps it held together, sometimes with bailing wire.
It's just barely held together, and society can collapse if you don't have...
I'm sorry, go ahead.
I was just agreeing with you.
Absolutely.
It's funny that people really don't grasp the concept of how fragile society is and what goes on on a daily basis.
We take it for granted.
Most people live in a bubble and whatever's going on in their little neighborhood, that's about as far as it goes.
But there really is A large threat out there, and we see it on a daily basis, whether it's law enforcement, fire service, anything, even in the hospitals, whether it's disease-related or it's criminal-related, everything.
And so it's just this fine balance that we manage to maintain, and that's really getting rocked right now.
Well, the people I find who are the best informed about all of this are first responders like yourself, but also veterans who have been deployed overseas.
They've been in the muck, and they have seen it.
And people like myself who have lived in other countries.
I've lived in South America.
I've lived in Asia.
When you have lived outside of America, and you've seen...
You've seen it with your own eyes.
It's a wake-up call.
So to you and all of your colleagues there, we want to say God bless you and God bless America and thank you for everything that you're doing.
Absolutely.
Thank you for having me on.
It's a great platform.
I appreciate it.
Well, absolutely.
We're honored to have you on.
And so thank you, John, for joining us.
And for those of you watching, as always, feel free to repost this interview anywhere you'd like.
My name is Mike Adams.
I'm the founder of Brighteon.
And as you know, I built a platform so that we can have these kinds of conversations which would be banned on YouTube and Facebook and other places like that.
So thank you for your support for those of you watching.
And thank you again, John Knox, for taking the time with us today.
God bless America.
Everybody, be safe.
It's gonna have a wild ride.
Take care.
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