Ben Armstrong interviewed by Mike Adams on Revelations, End Times and coming Biblical events
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The science has 0% chance for children from 5 to 11 to even die of COVID, let alone even be hospitalized of COVID. The worst thing that's going to happen to them is they might get sick and have cold-like symptoms.
That's the worst that's going to happen to them.
Yet, we have them saying, let's have an experimental vaccine injected in them and see what happens that we know cause heart conditions, blood clots, and all sorts of other problems.
We know that for a fact.
So why are we purposely endangering children for something that's not dangerous to them?
Obviously, there's a political agenda because there's no logic behind it.
There's no science behind it.
it, you know something nefarious is going on.
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I'm Mike Adams and I'm the founder of Brighteon.
And I built this platform so we can have interesting conversations with interesting people, especially patriots, people who love America and want to see America restored to what the original vision of the founders And right now, we have something fascinating happening across America.
America.
We're going to talk about that today with our guest, Ben Armstrong from The New American, one of our favorite publishers and websites that is telling the truth and asking the right questions about what's happening with our country.
So today with Ben, right after this break, we're going to talk about secession or a negotiated exit from the union.
What's happening in Texas?
What's happening in Florida?
What's happening with the National Guard in Oklahoma saying, no, we're not going to enforce vaccine mandates.
Even we're going to get into economics, the dollar, the money printing, and also vaccines and vaccine mandates.
All that straight ahead with Ben Armstrong from The New American.
Stay with me.
We'll be right back after this break here on Brighteon TV.
All right, folks, you're watching Brighteon.tv and I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
Today joined by Ben Armstrong from The New American and that's the website there, thenewamerican.com.
Also just fantastic content and other hosts and superstars as well.
Like Alex Ben is with the same organization there.
Everybody there doing fantastic work.
But Ben is also a superstar.
He's got amazing analysis, amazing shows.
You've got to watch him at The New American.
Ben, thank you so much for joining me today.
I'm a fan of your work, and God bless you.
Just thank you for joining us.
Thanks for having me on, Mike.
I really appreciate it.
I'm so glad to be here.
I'm excited.
Well, we're excited to have you on, and we obviously have a lot to cover here today.
So let's start with the topic I brought up right there, this kind of creeping nullification or what may ultimately end in secession.
There's a lot of signs out there that the state's And some cities are rejecting, like there's a city in California rejecting the vaccine mandates in California, but then states like Texas and Florida and South Dakota and others rejecting Biden mandates.
Give us your thoughts on what you see happening and where this is headed.
I've been saying for a long time that chaos is coming to America because the states that are conservative states are not going to easily be overthrown.
I believe the election was stolen.
And since we have that situation and this administration is pushing us towards communism because you've got a bunch of communists in the administration flat out, let's say it.
So you have communists pushing to make America into a communist, really more of a one world government.
But the one world government is going to be communism.
So they're kowtowing to China, who has the communist agenda.
And I've been saying for a while what they don't realize, unlike like let's take Australia, what you're seeing there, America, because of the states and because it's made up the states, you can't just overthrow the federal government and you've overthrown the country.
That's not how America was designed, thankfully, by our forefathers.
So you are seeing a little bit of that chaos starting to build.
Secession, yeah, I think there'll be threats.
I think it's a legitimate threat.
We've heard this before in the past.
We've even heard this when Trump was in California, was saying they were going to secede because of Donald Trump.
But a lot of that was just, you know, it's just talk and nobody really believes that there's a threat of that.
There is a true threat.
Do I think it will actually happen, the secession?
I don't think so.
I don't think it will actually...
I would love it.
To be honest, I would love if Texas would secede.
That'd be fantastic.
But I don't think...
We're going to see a secession fully, but I do see, and I call them a regime, not an administration, because it's a regime.
It's an overthrow of an election.
I don't think they were duly elected.
So I see they're going to use, as much as they can, the federal government to crack down on states, even...
Even when it's unconstitutional, as we are seeing, they're doing unconstitutional things.
They know it's unconstitutional, and they do it anyways because they're hoping their agenda gets passed before the courts slow roll it and knock it down.
That's the vaccine mandates, which we'll get into later on.
They know that that won't stand up in court.
They don't care.
They're just trying to get as many people to take the jab as possible.
But as for secession...
I'm not thinking Texas will ever do it, but because we've never been down this road before, because we've never seen anything like this in America before, it's impossible to predict.
It's possible if I were to I don't like being wishy-washy if I'm in a Put a statement on it.
I would say they don't secede, though.
I hope we don't see secession because the United States is stronger as a whole.
But let me debate the other side of your argument and say something like this.
So the fall of the Soviet Union in 91 happened very suddenly, and it was initiated by the collapse of really the financial solvency of the USSR.
And there was a debt default, and then things fell apart over a period of days, really.
And then you had the regional nation states just saying, we're done.
We're going to do our own thing.
But that had been building up for decades because of the deep, deep corruption.
And you're right.
America's not there.
We're not at Soviet-level corruption, but we're getting close with the FBI and the DOJ and the money printing.
Isn't it possible that we could have a currency collapse and then anything goes?
Yeah, a financial collapse could very well happen.
But because of my Christianity, I really believe America is this mystery Babylon that the Bible talks about.
And anyone can look that up and look at the destruction of mystery Babylon.
Everything happens very quickly all of a sudden.
It has a financial collapse.
It has an actual physical attack that happens to it as well.
And it gets destroyed.
And according to the Bible, it's the wealthiest nation of its time, probably the wealthiest nation to ever exist.
And it's clearly a Christian nation because it talks about the voice of the bridegroom and the bride being in it.
So it's the wealthiest Christian nation to ever exist has this sudden destruction.
To me, that screams America, but some people would disagree.
But I don't want to get that.
I don't need to drift way down.
But because of my Christianity, that's how I look at politics, too.
I use my Christianity.
I use the Bible to really look at, am I seeing what the Bible is saying?
And I am.
I am seeing...
America, and that's why I've predicted that America will go into chaos, actually, right before.
I think you are going to see states get close to seceding.
I don't think it will ever fully get there.
And it just depends.
Our economy could collapse before then.
Who knows?
We're dealing with people...
That don't care about America.
We have to understand that.
We're all about, well, we want to keep America.
We want America great.
These people want to destroy what America was founded on.
They think they're going to get the wealth out of it.
So that's the only reason why they haven't completely destroyed it.
It's because of the wealth.
So what they want to do is a controlled bring down of America into the global government and strip its wealth.
And then they think they will get a communist utopia to rise up.
I have news for them.
That will never happen in America.
Because I believe God blessed this country.
God will not allow them to take America and make it a communist utopia.
It will be destroyed by foreign enemies before they ever get that.
And the reason why is, naturally, if you bring America and weaken it, Like they're doing, and you weaken our military, and you weaken everything, and the military is all focused on American citizens instead of our enemies.
Our enemies are not going to wait.
They're going to sit there and say, if we don't do it now, and I'm talking about Iran, Russia, possibly China along with them, but I really think Iran and Russia through biblical prophecy is why I say that, but Iran and Russia are going to salivate and say...
Imagine if Trump gets in in 2024.
They have a window here where if we get really weak and our military gets really weak and the road that we're on...
You make a very important point in all of this, that the balance of geopolitical power is usually a very tenuous balance, and whenever there is extreme weakness that appears, if there's a vulnerability in a nation like America, the enemies, they will pounce.
They must pounce on it just by their own strategic posturing.
death to America.
And then we always act like, well, they don't mean that yet.
I believe they already have nuclear weapon capability already.
I think they have it.
They're now just building it up.
I believe the North Korean test of the nuclear weapons in North Korea was actually for Iran.
I think Iran paid North Korea.
That's why North Korea backed off so quickly, because they just wanted to get the test done.
And then once they were paid and got their money, then they were able to back off because I think it was for Iran, because Iran can't do a nuclear test by them in their area because Israel, not America, Israel will hit them.
So you have to factor that in.
So So we're sitting here with enemies that have, and Russia has nuclear capability, and Putin is running around saying that he has doomsday planes.
He's saying they're doomsday planes.
He's got seven of them all together because he's got some old ones, two brand new ones.
And he's talking about that he can conduct doomsday from the air and is bragging about it.
And then you have, he has these mock ballistic missiles that go...
Past Mach 7.
Past seven times the speed of sound.
It's amazing.
We can't shoot these things down.
If they wanted to do a surprise attack, they have the technology.
They have the will to do it.
They just need to know that America is weak enough that it won't respond, that it won't do anything.
That's what they're waiting for.
That's all they're waiting for.
But people don't think there's evil in the world.
We act like there aren't enemies out there that want to destroy America.
It's the cultural complacency of America where...
The masses are so oblivious to the evils of the world, and they don't realize even how evil their own government is.
So America can normally withstand all these things that you just mentioned, except for the fact that we now have this Chinese Communist-controlled regime in power that's deliberately trying to take down this nation from within.
So one of the attacks on the military has been vaccines.
And I'd like to ask you about your take on that.
Vaccine mandates pushed very, very aggressively across the military.
And notably, by the way, even the Fifth Circuit decision to stay the executive order requiring vaccine mandates for employers, that does not, that stay does not apply to the military.
So there is no reprieve at the moment for the military.
What are your thoughts?
The vaccine mandates are completely unconstitutional.
Secondly, it's not even a vaccine.
It is gene therapy that they are calling a vaccine.
So we have to factor that in because everyone says you're an anti-vax.
No, I'm anti-experimental gene therapy.
That's what I'm anti.
And this is experimental gene therapy.
Third, why does anyone need to get vaxed for COVID-19 when they all admit that it has mutated and there are variants because all these airborne vaccines COVID viruses mutate.
Okay, so COVID-19 has already mutated.
They've already said there's the Delta variant.
What you were getting in these vaccines, what they would inject in the military, is for the original COVID-19.
It's not the Delta variant vaccine.
So you're basically saying we have to vaccinate and we're mandating something that's not even around anymore.
Then they tell you it doesn't even protect you from the variants and you still can get sick and you can still spread it.
Bill Gates and Fauci just came out.
Just a couple days ago and admitted that it's not working.
And here's the real question here.
Why did Bill Gates and Fauci just come out and basically admit that, okay, the vaccines are winning.
We're not seeing the signs that it's going to keep people from getting sick.
I think they're worried that we're going into...
The cold and flu season right now.
And it might trigger the immune enhancement that so many doctors have been warning about where the animal studies showed with SARS-1.
Remember, COVID-19 is SARS-2.
SARS-1, they did all sorts of studies with mRNA, experimental gene therapy vaccines, so-called vaccines, into the animal studies.
And all the animal studies showed that when they introduced something similar a year later, What happened?
The animals died because of immune enhancement.
Their own immune system started attacking their own cells because it's gene therapy.
You're putting spike proteins in your cells.
It sees it as an enemy and it starts attacking and the animals die.
We've never seen these trials in humans.
They just went from that and said, all right, with COVID-19, we're just going to throw it on the human population and hope immune enhancement doesn't happen to the population yet.
We're seeing the signs of that in Israel and And I think they're worried that we're going to see the signs of that in a month or two right here in America.
So they're trying to get out ahead of it.
There was a story that broke this morning, and I forgot the name of the university, but there's a university in the U.S.
I'm thinking it's the University of Michigan, but don't hold me to that, where flu, there's a massive flu outbreak now among fully vaccinated students and staff.
And the CDC has even sent a team there to investigate because they're shocked at the severity and aggressiveness of the spread of the flu.
So this is exactly what you just mentioned there, Ben.
This is antibody-dependent enhancement, which is an effect of the immune system suppression caused by the spike protein vaccine, which, as you pointed out, even Fauci admits is worthless at this point.
And somehow Fauci uses his twisted logic to say that's why you should take another dose, the booster dose.
Right.
And wait a second.
It makes absolutely no sense.
They're going to keep hitting you with more and more injections of the very thing that's broken.
And you know what?
Children are not even susceptible to this.
No healthy children get really even hospitalized or die from this.
The only children that have died were...
Ones with pre-existing conditions, but severe pre-existing conditions, like they're dying of cancer and then they contract COVID and they died with COVID, but not of COVID. Those are the only child deaths that we've seen.
So, you virtually have a 0% chance, and so many doctors have said this.
This is the science.
The science has 0% chance for children from 5 to 11 to even die of COVID, let alone even be hospitalized of COVID. The worst thing that's going to happen to them is they might get sick and have cold-like symptoms.
That's the worst that's going to happen to them.
Yet, we have them saying, let's have an experimental vaccine injected in them and see what happens that we know cause heart conditions, blood clots, and all sorts of other problems.
We know that for a fact.
So why are we purposely endangering children for something that's not dangerous to them?
Obviously, there's a political agenda because there's no logic behind it.
There's no science behind it.
You know something nefarious is going on.
It's not a conspiracy theory.
To say you shouldn't inject children with experimental gene therapy vaccines for no reason.
But in the Old Testament, in Leviticus, God, speaking through Moses, instructs the Israelites that you shall not sacrifice your children to Moloch And that any parent who sacrifices their child must be stoned to death by the community.
Otherwise, God will unleash his wrath upon the entire community and separate them from existence.
I mean, it's a direct quote out of Leviticus.
I think it was chapter 20, but I'd have to double check that.
But this, in my view, these vaccines are a kind of child sacrifice.
Just as you said, there's no medical justification for it.
The child can only be harmed.
There's no chance that they will be helped by it because they already have a near-zero risk anyway.
So there's no benefit.
Why would a society want to inject 28 million children in the United States with a biological weapon?
That's the spike protein.
It is the bioweapon component.
Why would you try to mass murder 28 million children?
Either for money...
Or, you're someone who believes in depopulating the Earth, and you think you're saving the Earth.
They always justify it in their mind.
People don't do evil things without some sort of justification to help themselves do it.
So if they think, well, we've all evolved, so we're all animals.
See, evolution is really the key to all of this.
The people that believe in evolution believe that you are no different than an animal.
And therefore, they view you as cattle.
And you have to understand that they view you as cattle to understand that they're willing to do this.
Too many people in America come from a Christian point of view.
And this is a good thing.
We come from a Christian point of view.
That man was created and we're special and we're above the animals.
But what if you never were raised that way?
You have to understand that your mind thinks totally different.
You evolved from an animal, which evolution is a blatantly racist theory as well.
And of course, the Democrats embrace it because evolution says that a black person is closer to a monkey than a white person.
That's evil.
That's awful.
The Nazis used evolution to justify the Aryan race and everything they did came from evolution.
So these globalists also don't believe in God that you're created.
They believe you're cattle.
So killing children...
It's like killing cattle to them.
If it's a benefit to them financially, and if they think...
Maybe they're doing something where they're collecting information because they want to prolong their lives.
And if they think they can prolong their lives, that's another motivation, then they would sacrifice the children, like they're saying, sacrifice children for their own benefit.
But it could simply just be money, greed as well.
I'll tell you this.
The old child sacrifice...
A lot of people don't understand this.
The same reason people do abortion is the same reason people sacrifice children...
And an idol.
Way back.
And we look at these pagan cultures and say, those people are crazy.
Why would anyone take their child and sacrifice it to an idol?
It sounds crazy.
But understand, what were they being told?
They were brainwashed to believe if you sacrifice your child, the gods will bless you when your crops will grow and you'll be blessed and financially blessed.
They were doing it to financially.
It was about money to financially bless themselves.
And they believed a lie.
What do they tell women who are 16 and they're pregnant?
You got to get an abortion because you won't be financially blessed.
You have to go to college and then have a career because if you don't, your child's getting you might be poor the rest of your life.
So it's better to kill your child and then you'll have more money than not.
And plus, that's a lie.
You don't know if that 16-year-old is going to be an inventor of something at 18 or starts a website and becomes a YouTube star and is a multimillionaire, and their kid's only two years old, and they could be, who knows what these, but they lie to them, tell them that they'll be financially blessed if they kill their child.
Same thing.
Let me shift gears.
You mentioned the coming chaos earlier, so let me ask you also about the book of Revelation, since we're talking about the Bible right now.
I love that.
Yeah, this is one of the reasons I wanted to interview you, because you do openly talk about these things, and you don't hold back, and that's what we need right now.
I'm tired of people holding back and compromising and self-censoring, and you don't do that.
But the four horsemen of the apocalypse, a lot of people would look around and say, well, yeah, that's kind of happening right now.
I mean, maybe war is not here, but it's coming.
But there's pestilence, right?
And there's the economic strife.
And what's the other?
The war...
You tell me.
What's the other one?
I forgot.
War, and basically you'll have famine, too.
Famine, yeah.
But I want to give you something more about the four horsemen.
Okay, go for it.
People look at what it's described, but they don't concentrate on the colors.
The colors also have symbolism.
That's right.
So you have red, which represents communism.
You have the black, and it will fit even with the description.
The black horse, they have the scales, and it's weighing, and that's capitalism.
Right.
You have the white horse, which we would say is the Catholicism, and then you have the green horse.
Now, they've changed it to pale white.
That's only because when they were translating, it's a mistranslation.
It's supposed to be green.
It's chloros, isn't it?
Yes, chloros is the original.
And that would translate to green or maybe pale green.
And so when they translated, they said, oh, well...
They must have meant pale, because there's no such thing as a green horse.
There's a red horse, there's a black horse, there's a white horse, but there's no...
So they just...
Well, there's a pale horse, so we'll say that.
But no, it was green, and green is Islam.
So what it's saying is, is the four horsemen, you're going to see these powers in power all at the same time when all these things are occurring.
So you're going to see communism, capitalism, Catholicism, and Islam all at the same time.
And we're seeing that too.
All together.
So the Four Horsemen, I don't believe, is something that just happens during the Tribulation.
I think it's something that happens actually before the Tribulation and as a lead up.
But others might disagree.
That's fine.
But I find it interesting.
What I really find interesting is...
Mystery Babylon.
Because I'm an American and because I believe Mystery Babylon is America, it's very interesting because for years, I've studied this most of my life, and Revelation chapter 18, I am pretty much an expert on.
What I found was really interesting is...
That this mystery Babylon is destroyed at the end of Revelation, the book, but that's not necessarily when it gets destroyed.
And I always wondered what the timing, when will it be?
Well, I finally found it and it was always there.
It's in Revelation chapter 14 if anyone wants to look this up.
Starting at verse 6, there are three angels that fly by and they give us the timeline of when this mystery Babylon is destroyed.
Why is this significant if you're not reading the Bible?
Because if it's America, you'll find this interesting.
The first angel that flies by basically says that the gospel will be preached throughout the whole earth.
I believe that's already been accomplished.
It's reached the whole earth, so that's already done.
The next angel says fallen, fallen is Babylon.
And then the third angel then says, do not take the mark of the beast.
What does that tell me?
That tells me that the fall of Babylon, which could be America, this mystery Babylon, happens between when the gospel is preached throughout the earth and before the mark of the beast is ever implemented.
And everyone's talking about the mark system coming.
So we are living in the period of time in which this mystery Babylon will be destroyed.
Interesting enough, we're seeing America and all this chaos.
Then there's another thing that's really interesting.
Let me squeeze this in.
I know I talk a lot, but chapter 18, it talks about that this mystery Babylon, which I believe is America, so we'll just say America, deceived the whole earth through its sorcery.
But sorcery is translated to mean pharmacy.
That's where we get the word pharmacy.
And then the very last verse says, and the blood, it mentions the blood, the blood of the saints and the prophets, that's talking about Christians, and all the earth's slain.
Everyone used to interpret that as, well, that must mean something about people being slain throughout all of time.
It doesn't seem like that.
It seems like, to me now, it's indicating that pharmacy will slay a huge chunk of the earth.
And I didn't know that until just...
Oh my God, Ben.
You just hit upon something that I've been...
It's been coming to my realization in a little bit different way, but exactly what you just said.
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We're continuing now, Ben.
So what you just mentioned is bombshell, and it just resonated because what I've been trying to explain to people in just the last two days or so through my own podcast is that America is going to be blamed for the vaccine deaths around the world.
And this is going to be used, the sorcery, the pharmacology, Copia, which is the root.
I mean, sorcery, one of the definitions is the pharmaceutical companies as we know them today.
There are going to be mass deaths around the world over the next decade.
America's going to take the blame for that.
They're going to blame America for having Fauci.
They're probably even going to blame Trump for launching Operation Warp Speed, too.
So they're kind of setting up Trump.
To take a fall or have some blame for this as well.
They're going to blame America's pharmaceutical companies, America's media and so on.
I can see America being set up to be blamed for all of this global vaccine genocide.
Absolutely.
In fact, I take it a step further because I believe that this mystery Babylon is attacked by Russia and Iran.
Someone will say, well, it doesn't say that in Revelation.
It doesn't.
But if you go to Jeremiah 50 and 51, it talks about the destruction of a Babylon, and it's clearly not about the old Babylon.
So I'm assuming it's mentioned Jeremiah 1551 goes hand in hand with Revelation.
And in there, you're finding it's the king of the Medes, which is the Middle East, the Middle Eastern kings.
So you're talking about probably Afghanistan, Iran and a coalition.
Who knows who would be with them who are riled up to surprise attack this mystery Babylon, the richest Christian nation on Earth and the king of the north, which is Russia.
And that's I don't think anyone disagrees.
Most Bible scholars would say the King of North is Russia.
Okay, so...
With what you said, what we're talking about is, let's say the vaccine creates this enhancement, people start dying, the immune enhancement, I don't ever say it right, but the immune enhancement, you know what I'm talking about.
And tons of people start dying across the world.
Also realize, people need a justification before they can pull the trigger.
Putin's sitting there.
Putin's very upset.
If Putin's people start dying and they blame America's pharmaceuticals, Putin could then say, look, they're way worse than me.
They're way worse and done something far more.
I'm justified for attacking them by flying my doomsame plane.
And that could be a justification moment for him.
So it all can coincide, but people don't think about these ramifications.
I mean, if our pharmacies, who trick the whole world into taking this vaccine, if it goes south, they will be ticked.
They're already...
Jealous of America and have hatred for America, and they already are trying to destroy America because it used to be, and I say used to be because it's not right now, it used to be a beacon of light.
And so you already have that.
You give them that type of justification, and yes, you could see a surprise attack from that.
Well, and think about the way that we today view the history of Germany.
And we look back and we say, why didn't the German people rise up and stop Adolf Hitler?
Because some people tried, right?
But they failed because there were so many, quote, good Germans who went along with Adolf Hitler, went along with the Holocaust, that Hitler was able to stay in power and then The world condemns that entire era, which of course attacks the reputation of the German people, who are not inherently evil, not any more than any other people around the world, but they allowed that to happen.
This is what we see in America now.
Too many of the American people, especially those on the left, are allowing great evil to rise to power in America like a global depopulation regime.
We see it every day.
I feel like I'm part of the French resistance trying to stop Adolf Hitler right now.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, the globalists figured out how to get people to obey, and it's threaten their money.
Okay, so threaten their job.
People are more willing to go to war than they are to lose their job.
There's actually been polls on this.
Would you go to the military and go to war, or would you rather have, you know, standing up and you lose your job?
People don't want to lose their income.
And America, of any other country, money is really the god it bows down and worships.
It should be worshiping the true god of heaven, but it bows down and worships at the altar of money.
China has figured that out.
China has been buying off everyone.
Fauci, politicians, everything.
China realized, oh, they'll do anything for money.
They have no moral standard when it comes to that.
And the individual citizens are also, well, I can't stand up because my job is being threatened.
I understand how hard this is.
I'm not saying that, yeah, that's horrible.
That's a hard decision.
But you have to look at it this way.
If you don't stand up for your freedoms now, your job doesn't matter.
And you probably won't have it in the future, especially if you're a Trump supporter.
They'll come after you for just thinking conservative.
If they keep going down this road, just being someone who is affiliated, that you voted for Donald Trump, they'll start firing you for.
But people don't think that we'll get to that point.
It will get to that point if you don't stand up now.
You're not saving your job by not standing up.
You're just prolonging and moving your destruction down the road, and it's going to be the destruction of America as a whole, not just you losing your job.
If you stand up and stop the communist wave, and some people will lose their jobs, but if we stand up and stop this overthrow of our country, if we do that now, America doesn't get destroyed, and then we can...
Do what Biden would say, build back better.
Although that's a comment I hate even using that.
But we could bring back America, make America great again is really what we'd have to do.
But do I see that happening?
No.
I don't see enough people.
I think the most we're going to get to, and I've been begging for it, I don't think we're there yet, is 20% 20% standing up and holding off this evil communist regime.
That doesn't give us full victory.
But what I think what we can do is hold them off, which will cause the chaos between the federal government and the states and states fighting against states, not in a physical civil war, but arguing, legal battles, just crazy chaos.
The left will probably riot in the streets a little bit more.
You'll have Black Lives Matter.
They'll find something to do.
You'll start to see that yet again.
It won't be the right.
But if we can hold it off, that chaos will come.
Allow God to do it.
Allow God to fight the battle.
Hold it off.
Watch what God will do.
Now, if our destruction happens from foreign enemies, remember, God is bigger than any of us and can protect you.
If you're watching and you're praying, you're asking, God always brings a remnant through everything.
And so trust in God.
But I don't think God's going to protect the people who are not paying attention, who are saying, I'd rather be naive.
I'd rather not know.
They see videos like this and they shut it off right away because it takes them – They have to confront the issues.
And they don't want to confront it.
They'd rather be...
I want to just watch my sports or watch Netflix and pretend everything's still the same.
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
Yeah.
By doing that, though, you're going to get swept away.
It's terrible.
You're using the term chaos quite a bit, so describe for us what you envision that looking like at the street level.
Chaos in America.
In real practical terms, what's the experience of that for those of us living in America?
Yeah, I think it's more of a governmental chaos.
I think there will be some riots in the street, but it will only be on the left.
I don't think that there will be chaos like, okay, you've got a bunch of vigilantes or people defending on the right for the Second Amendment and shooting people in the street.
No, no, no.
I don't mean it like that, so I want to clarify.
That would be like a civil war.
So I'm trying to say it's not going to be a civil war, but what you're going to see is chaos is...
The left will burn down cities, Black Lives Matter marches in the name of whatever they want to say they're protesting.
You're going to see more of that in the future.
That type of thing.
And we're all going to be upset again.
And it'll be very similar to what we already saw.
Then you will see the chaos will be in the government.
The Constitution, you know, the left always talks about constitutional crisis.
It's basically a constitutional crisis.
They've made the Constitution null and void.
So you're going to have chaos in that some states are going to follow the Constitution, other states are not.
And the federal government, under the Biden communist regime, is going to attack any way they can the states that follow the Constitution, trying to get people unemployed, trying to get people will not be making money.
The government will take their benefits away.
You're on Medicare.
They might start threatening your Medicaid and say, no, you get no treatment.
That type of chaos.
But Ben, the states could threaten right back and say, hey, we'll instruct all our citizens to stop paying federal taxes or something like that.
It might get to that.
Exactly.
But what does that cause?
Well, right.
More chaos.
Exactly.
That's the chaos I'm talking about.
So yeah, yeah.
The states could stand up.
Strong conservative states will.
The strong conservative states are not going to get overthrown easily.
That the brilliance of what our forefathers did made it very hard to just sweep and overthrow.
You can sweep and overthrow Australia pretty easily.
You cannot do it in America because of our 50 states, because we're a republic.
We're not a democracy, too.
I hate that we even say democracy.
Our founding fathers hated democracies.
They thought it was the worst form of government.
They wanted a rule of law.
People don't know what republic means.
Republic is really rule of law.
It means the Constitution, we're set on laws.
It's not about what the mob wants.
They can't change the rule of law.
The Constitution is almost like the Ten Commandments, almost.
They did leave it in because they know they're men and they're flawed.
They're not God, so they're not going to be perfect.
So they made it very hard to change the Constitution.
A huge, long, hard process.
But basically, the Constitution is your Ten Commandments that you're never supposed to violate.
All our officials take an oath.
To uphold the Constitution, every judge takes an oath, and yet they're slaughtering the Constitution.
It's despicable.
I don't know why they even live in America.
If you don't like the Constitution, if you want to change it, Every other country in the world you can go to.
Pick anyone.
Leave.
But they don't.
They don't leave.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Well, already this has been a fascinating conversation, and obviously we have to talk again because there's so much happening.
I'd love to come back.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, we're just scratching the surface here today.
But give our viewers a reminder of where they can find you, your podcast, the schedule, the time, all of that.
Yeah, you can find me at thenewamerican.com.
New episodes Monday through Friday.
Usually posts around 2 p.m.
Check it out.
There's all sorts of awesome posts up there.
I deal a lot with the vaccine mandates, the vaccine in and of itself, the so-called vaccine, and a lot to do with election fraud because we've got to...
We can't just move forward without understanding that the last election was a fraud and Donald Trump actually won and Joe Biden is illegitimate.
If we don't cement that and do something about it, there is no really going forward as far as I'm concerned.
So I deal with a lot of stuff like that.
So check it out at the new American dot com.
OK, fantastic.
Ben, thank you so much for joining us today, taking the time.
God bless you, and I really appreciate your courage to tell the truth, and your analysis, I think, is spot on.
We're going to be in for quite a ride here in America, but in the end, the true American spirit, and especially those of faith, those who are with God, we emerge victorious from all of this, but not everybody's going to make it.
Exactly.
In the end, we do win, but there'll be a period of time where it looks like we're not going to win, and not everyone will make it.
I wish I didn't have to say that, but that's the reality.
I tell the truth whether it hurts or not.
So that truth hurts, but it's the truth, and I appreciate it.
Mike, you're awesome.
I love what you do.
I've been a fan of yours.
I've been watching the stuff that you're doing, and you do a fantastic job.
Oh, wow.
Well, thank you, Ben.
Much appreciated.
I appreciate what you're doing as well.
And I've seen some of your videos on Brighteon.com.
That's how I really became aware of your work there.
So thanks for letting people post videos as well.
It's very educational.
And thank you for watching today here.
And feel free to repost this video on other platforms as well.
Or you can post it on your channel on Brighteon if you'd like.
Go for it.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon, and you've been watching an interview with Ben Armstrong from thenewamerican.com.
God bless everyone and take care.
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