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May 16, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Kent Heckenlively reveals why vaccine mandates are ILLEGAL under US law
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You know, when you're messing with the immune system, I mean, this is a powerful thing.
I mean, this is, you know, vaccines are not marshmallow lollipops, okay?
They are powerful, you know, medical interventions.
And so this one size fits all, this, you know, you can't ask questions, I think is one of the most dangerous things that our human race has ever experienced.
Welcome to Brighton.tv.
I'm Mike Adams, and today we're interviewing a very special guest, Kent Heckin-Lively, and he's the author of The Case Against Vaccine Mandates.
This is an important new book that's coming out that delves into the legal structure that says that vaccine mandates are...
It's unconstitutional, illegal, under current U.S. law.
I'm going to be interviewing him.
Just to let you know, if you're looking at my eye, yeah, I got over-pounded in a training incident, and I have a little bit of a bloodshot eye.
Due to that, it's no big deal.
My elbow's also hurting, but whatever.
So we're not going to let that get in the way.
Kent Heckin-Lively's book is coming out October 26th, and we're going to ask him a lot of tough questions about...
Fake president, well, Biden, whatever you think, he's real or fake.
Biden's mandates pushing vaccines.
We'll be right back after this break for this full interview.
Thanks for joining me.
All right, welcome back.
Mike Adams here, brighteon.tv.
And we're joined today by Kent Heckin-Lively.
He's the author of the new book, The Case Against Vaccine Mandates, coming out October 26th.
Available everywhere, including Amazon and Barnes& Noble, or at least I should say available for now, unless Elizabeth Warren convinces Amazon to conduct book-burning exercises against books that don't agree with the official narrative.
Mr.
Heckin-Lively, thank you so much for joining me today.
It's an honor to have you on.
Thanks for having me, Mike.
Okay, great.
Well, I love the title of your book.
Your book, as I understand it, runs counter to another book called The Case for Vaccine Mandates, authored by Alan Dershowitz.
So give us the summary of what your book lays out and why Alan Dershowitz is wrong.
Well, you know, it's really been interesting because I have been writing and publishing books for about 10 years now.
I've got nine books published.
My most recent one that people know is Ending Plague with Dr.
Judy Mikevitz, and we're joined by Dr.
Frank Russetti.
I've also written extensively about the vaccine program.
So what happened was probably about three or four months ago, my publisher came to me and said, Kent, I'd like you to write a book.
Called the case against vaccine mandates.
I think you're the person to put this together.
And, you know, I am very passionate about this issue.
So I quickly said yes.
And then having a second thought about it, I said, oh, you know, I know you always like to have a debate.
Because, hey, this is America.
We're supposed to have debates where each side gets to say what they want to say.
I said, are you going to have somebody write the case for vaccine mandates?
And he goes, oh yeah, I've already got that contract signed.
That's going to be Alan Dershowitz.
And so at that point, my bowels did turn to jelly.
I was a bit terrified.
About taking on the country's greatest constitutional lawyer.
But I kind of say it's, I've given myself the nickname, the stallion of Skyhorse Publishing, and I'm going up against the Apollo Creed of Harvard University, Alan Dershowitz.
And what really kind of got me right off the bat is that when I listen to Dershowitz talk about the legal arguments, the first case he always starts with is Jacobson versus Massachusetts from 1905.
And so I thought, okay, well, you know, let's really look at Jacobson.
And what really got me right out of the gate is how I think Dershowitz mischaracterizes the facts of Jacobson versus Massachusetts.
So going to that case, It's 1905, and Massachusetts has this law saying that you need to take the smallpox vaccine, and if you don't, you'll be fined $5, okay?
So immediately I'm going, he's going to get fined.
Okay, they're not going to take away his job.
They're not going to prevent him from interacting in society.
You know, there's no social shaming that's going on.
And so, you know, next question I asked was, okay, so what's the value of $5 in 1905 money today?
And it's 150 bucks.
And as I read the case, Jacobson, he was a pastor, Pastor Henning Jacobson, he's a Lutheran pastor, and he went to jail rather than pay this fine.
And so to get out of jail, all he had to do was pay this fine, which was the equivalent of about 150 bucks, which is about one third of blowing through a traffic stop in California where I live.
And I said, this is completely wrong.
And then as I read the commentary on it, I found out that nobody had ever anticipated that you would violate somebody's bodily integrity by forcing them to take a medication.
And so I said, this is completely wrong.
I don't understand why.
Why Alan Dershowitz, who I generally think is one of the smartest people in the law, is making such an argument which is demonstrably false on its facts.
At most, it gives the government the authority to impose a relatively small fine But it doesn't say you can't participate in society if you don't get a vaccine.
It doesn't say, you know, we're going to keep you from interacting with people.
So that was the first thing that just made me say I think Dershowitz is absolutely wrong.
So what you're asserting is that Dershowitz is then extrapolating that to say that the government can assert power over your body and force you to take an experimental injection or force you to be locked down or force you to not be able to travel on public roads and things like that.
Is that your main point?
Absolutely.
So at most, they can impose a relatively small fine on you, but you get to continue to live your life as you see fit with your conscience.
And then it gets really troubling.
And this is where...
You know, I hope the audience follows me because, you know, I'm just trying to take an objective look at this and see what the law said.
Because, you know, if the law seemed really good, you know, I would say it might argue, you know, in a different way.
The next case that really talks about it is the Buck versus Bell case in 1927.
So we've got a period of 22 years between Jacobson and Buck versus Bell.
And the facts in the Buck versus Bell case are absolutely horrifying.
So Carrie Buck was a psychiatric patient, and the state said that she should be sterilized so she wouldn't have any more idiots or imbeciles, was actually the language that they used.
And there's a line in Buck v.
Bell which says, Giving a fine to a person for refusing to take a vaccine is essentially the same thing as severing a woman's ovaries.
And I said to myself, oh my God, that is absolutely terrible.
And so, you know, I think modern audiences would be shocked to find out that that is what's being, you know, put forward as a way for these vaccine mandates.
And, you know, then I started doing a little, you know, it really sat wrongly with me because I said, how is it That a Supreme Court Justice and somebody who is highly regarded, Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., wrote the opinion on that.
And I was saying to myself, wait a minute, there's something I'm not understanding here.
Well, I started doing a little research on Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., only to find out that he was one of the leading eugenicists of the day.
And his father, Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr., who was the dean of Harvard Medical School, was one of the first public figures in 1875 to say, we need to slow down the population, essentially, of all of those people who are not Northern Europeans.
Okay?
So, who...
And, you know, it's kind of funny because I got my 23andMe results back.
And, you know, I'm about 24% Swede.
So 24% of me is the approved race.
Then I'm British and Irish.
I'm Italian.
I'm North African.
I'm Middle Eastern.
So about 76% of me, according to these people, you know, needs to be kept from reproducing.
So when I understood that...
That Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.
decision It came out because of this very strong eugenicist strain that was in American life.
And what was really interesting was to find out where it was centered.
So it was centered at Harvard University.
It was the number one place.
And, you know, I'm not going crazy on this.
This is stuff I got from Harvard's own magazine.
Because Harvard, you know, in 2015, they did a really excellent expose of Harvard's past, you know, It was Harvard University.
On the west coast it was Stanford University.
There were a lot of large California eugenicist organizations.
And in the scientific field, They actually had an office at Cold Springs Harbor in New York, and it was the leading center of eugenics research in the United States.
And then the trail gets kind of interesting because then you find out that the Nazis took a lot of their eugenics idea from the American eugenicists, and you find that The Nazis were doing this thing.
First, they went after disabled children, and they killed about 70,000 disabled German children, even before they started going after the Jews.
Then they went after German citizens who were adults.
They killed about 7,000 of them before there was an outcry, and that was stopped.
And then they had their final solution.
And what's interesting to say, and I know that A lot of your audience will think about this because we wonder what the real plans of these people are.
You know, what I can say, you know, very strongly on the historical record is that there was a great part of the American progressive movement, which were eugenicists before World War II. Now, They seem to have gone silent afterwards.
So, a couple possibilities.
Maybe they changed their mind, but nobody got prosecuted.
Nobody got kicked out.
Nobody got shamed.
So, you know, all of these vaccine mandates owe their power to the eugenicists.
I feel very strongly in saying that, and that's supportable.
I'm glad you're connecting the dots on all of this.
And our audience, I think, is very much aware of this.
We've published articles at Natural News showing the posters from World War II in German that would say, you know, you have to kill the infirmed because they cost too much to maintain and the state needs the economic resources to go to the power of the state, not taking care of sick people.
And yes, the eugenicist movement The Third Reich was inspired by eugenicists in the United States.
No question about that.
But aren't we now seeing really echoes of eugenics?
We see a lot of vaccine zealotry right now, and you see in pop culture, social media, in the media.
For example, a guest on MSNBC the other day said that unvaccinated people should be assassinated with drone strikes.
It is really terrifying to see the level of hatred that the mainstream media is showing towards those who are vaccine-hesitant or vaccine-skeptical.
What I always like to point out to people is the power of money and something that never really gets covered, which is that vaccines are a $50 billion-a-year business, at least.
At least.
For Big Pharma.
Right.
How do they spend some of that money?
Well, Big Pharma spends $6 billion advertising in the mainstream media, and they spend $300 million a year lobbying Congress.
Okay, that's twice what oil and gas spends.
So for those who may be liberal and who rightly question the power of the oil and gas lobby, what I'd like to say is that Big Pharma is twice that.
And so it's up to a relatively few number of people to raise these issues and say, hey, maybe we're not getting the whole story.
Yeah, well, it wasn't that long ago when progressives in America were exposing the power of corporations, saying corporations are bad, you should question authority, you should question a government that's trying to poison you.
I mean, I marched with the anti-GMO liberal marchers in Austin, Texas, not that many years ago, and now those same people are marching and demanding vaccines be injected into your body whether you want it or not.
So, you know, what started out as my body, my choice on the abortion issue has become our power, your body.
You know, like, your body belongs to us.
So, I have a chapter in my book entitled, My Body, My Property.
And whenever we start to get away from that idea...
We get things like slavery.
We get things like the Holocaust.
We get things like Jim Crow laws.
Now, one of the things that, you know, it's always a little bit problematic.
You know, I march up to the Nazis because I think that the eugenics program that was run in the United States actually did provide some support for what became the final solution.
Yeah.
I don't know if I can go beyond that.
I don't know if the evidence allows me to do that.
I'm not saying it's not there.
I'm just saying I can't find something that I'd take into a court of law.
What I will say is this situation currently reminds me of what we did to Japanese Americans in World War II. Exactly, the internment camps.
This is a Korematsu sort of situation because there was no really good evidence that Japanese population was a threat.
But these people were stripped of their livelihoods, their businesses taken from them, and sent off to camps.
So the hill I'm going to fight and die on is not that we've got a Nazi regime coming, but we've got something very similar to what happened to Japanese Americans during World War II, and we all admit now that that was a terrible mistake.
Well, and we also have a rage-filled vaccine mob and a really discriminatory media narrative that's actually sort of pushing the bullying of unvaccinated people.
But before you respond to that, let me just mention to our viewers, the book is called The Case Against Vaccine Mandates.
It's coming out October 26th.
You can pre-order it on Amazon or Barnes& Noble or other booksellers.
And it's important to preorder this because that helps the book move up in the rankings so that the author here, our guest today, Kent Hacken-Lively, gets invited to more shows to talk about this and to counter the official narrative.
I also want to ask you a question, Kent.
Does your book, you know, a lot of people are now terrified of their employers forcing vaccine mandates onto them because of Joe Biden's recent announcement.
Does your book give readers some ammunition to defend themselves against the coercion of their employers?
I think it absolutely does because it reviews the history.
So if people can talk about Jacobson versus Massachusetts, I think that's a really interesting case because, you know, you'll hear Alan Dershowitz talking about it all the time.
I actually think he's mischaracterizing it.
Even when I heard him debate Laura Ingram on it, she didn't get the idea.
All she could say was, well, smallpox was $300 million.
This is $4 million.
And I said, no, no, it's wrong.
Think about all the things we had wrong in 1905, right?
You can have discriminatory covenants on homes.
Jim Crow was legal.
All sorts of terrible, terrible things.
And yet, even in 1905, they said, we cannot violate your bodily integrity by forcing you to take something.
And if you don't, we're going to coerce you by taking your job, denying you educational opportunities, preventing you from interacting in society.
So kudos to 1905, which understood that your body is your property.
Yeah, well, and now you have commentators on CNN like Liana Wen, the former president of Planned Parenthood, saying that you shouldn't be allowed to engage in interstate travel if you're not vaccinated.
But, you know, those of us, I understand you have been looking into the legal aspects of this as well, the human rights aspects, the body property aspects.
But our audience and a lot of what I cover is that, number one, this isn't even really a vaccine.
It's never been approved by the FDA.
They approved Comirnaty, which is not even available in America.
So when Biden and the media say that you have to take this, it's been approved by the FDA and it's proven safe and effective.
Those are all lies to start with.
You know, perfect.
Because I looked at this book as an opportunity to educate people about vaccines.
So half of the book is the legal arguments, you know, going up through the eugenics program talking about Buck versus Bell.
The other half All of the vaccine controversies that people are not familiar with.
I go over the Simpsonwood Conference of 2000, in which the CDC understood they were getting an unmistakable signal that there were developmental problems in highly vaccinated children.
They decided to cover it up.
I go over the William Thompson case from 2013, finding that earlier administration of the MMR vaccine was having devastating effects on children, especially African-American boys.
And I review the case of Andrew Zimmerman, who was the government's chief witness in the autism omnibus trial, and him saying that in 2007, He told the government that at least a third of the autism cases were caused by vaccines.
I also spent a good deal of time talking about the vaccine court and the fact that I interviewed Gary Golkowitz, who for about 25 years was the chief special master of the vaccine court.
You know, and really quite surprised to find that he doesn't think the program is working well.
I also talked to a Stanford Law professor, Nora Freeman-Ingstrom, who is one of the few academics to look at the operation of the court.
And I found that everybody, you know, from parents to academics to people actually working in the program, they said it wasn't working well.
And so the thing I always say is, We're kind of having the wrong conversation.
The conversation is, should you be forced to take a vaccine?
Almost like, should your employer force you to drive a Honda because it's more reliable than a Ford?
Well, OK, you know, I can kind of get that.
But what they're not understanding is that starting in 1986, a completely different liability system was set up for vaccines.
So there is no liability for any of the big pharma companies.
The government is on the hook.
So think about that.
The government's on the hook.
They're pushing it, you know.
Any lawyer worth their salt, we look for independence and objectivity.
And that's why I think the strongest arguments against vaccines are going to come from the lawyers because we're going to say, well, look, the system for getting to the truth has been corrupted.
This would never be allowed in any other situation.
And so I really, in 120 pages, I guess, I really lay out all those arguments in a real easy-to-read fashion.
What I'm really happy about is that of all my books on Amazon, I'm usually...
Between 4.7 and 4.8, so even though I take on very controversial positions, it seems like readers really respond.
With my last three books, what I'm really happy to report, because I went after Google with Google leaks, I went after Facebook with Behind the Mask of Facebook and Ending Plague, I submitted all of those to the very liberal Kirkus Reviews.
and Kirkus Reviews, to their credit, gave me endorsements for every single one of those books.
And they said, wow, Heckin' Lively provides a mountain of evidence.
Now, they always said, I'm not sure I agree with all of his conclusions, but wow, this guy has provided a mountain of evidence and this discussion needs to happen.
Okay.
The book is called The Case Against Vaccine Mandates, available now for pre-order on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and other booksellers.
And Now, this interview is for Brighteon.tv.
This is our normal duration interview.
But we're going to continue, Kent, if you'll stay with us for a few more minutes, in an extended interview where I want to ask you about Senator Elizabeth Warren now calling for book burnings.
So she wants Amazon to ban your book before it's even published.
And also about the case for natural immunity.
So what happened to natural immunity?
How come everybody who's already been exposed and has natural antibodies still has to take a vaccine under a vaccine mandate?
Have they just thrown the whole history of the human body out the window?
So we're going to get to all of that in the extended version of this interview.
I just want to thank you for joining me today, Kent.
It's been intriguing already.
Thank you.
Okay.
Also want to say if Alan Dershowitz is listening and if you want to come on and defend your argument, we welcome you.
We've done an interview with Alan Dershowitz before on censorship.
Love to hear his thoughts on this.
And, you know, maybe we can have a lively, informed debate about this.
But thank you for watching, folks.
This is the Breitian.tv episode.
We'll talk to you again soon.
Okay, this is now the extended version of the interview.
So, Kent, thank you for staying with us.
The two main questions I want to ask you, as I mentioned, Senator Elizabeth Warren calling for Amazon to ban books on COVID or vaccines that disagree with the official narrative.
What are your thoughts on this astonishing announcement?
Book burning in America!
Elizabeth Warren is really treading into some very dangerous territory.
And, you know, I hate to say it, but I'm one of those free speech absolutists who says, well, the answer to speech you disagree with is more speech.
I think that informs people.
I think I trust people.
You know, I know I'm coming into this debate and there are a lot of people who are going to hate me.
But, you know, I'm just going to keep talking.
I'm going to be friendly, approachable.
I'm going to make my points.
And, you know, like Kirkus Review, giving thumbs up to three very controversial books, you know, I made my case.
And I'll continue making my case.
The danger, of course, of what Senator Warren is proposing is that who decides what's the truth?
And I guess she's saying, well, Fauci is the ultimate truth teller, which is a laughable proposition.
That guy, in my opinion, is a war criminal guilty of funding biological weapons against humanity.
He's probably going to end up in some kind of Nuremberg trial, right?
But If they start with, hey, you can't say things that disagree with the government narrative on vaccines, then what about next?
So you can't disagree with any medication.
You can't be critical of Vioxx or whatever.
Well, one of the things that I think that conservatives have an edge with, and I really think this is a blind spot if you're liberal.
When you are a conservative, you read history to answer the question, who are human beings and how do they act?
So when I look at what happened with Jacobson, you know, a very kind of mild proposition, then you go to, you know, Involuntary sterilization of psychiatric patients.
Then you go to the murder of disabled children.
Then you go to the murder of disabled adults.
Then you start murdering those individuals who are not of the appropriate race or gender or sexual orientation.
And so I think...
So when I raise these things, I'm not saying that liberals or the leftists who are doing this are Nazis.
I'm saying this is the road you're starting down.
But they've already crossed that threshold with infanticide.
The state of New York legalized murdering babies after they're born, even when they're perfectly healthy and breathing and living, and they can kill them because they are unwanted.
So, I mean, haven't they already blown past all those lines that you just threw in the sand?
You know, one of the uncomfortable ideas that I came up in writing the case against vaccine mandates was to find out that the program in Nazi Germany to kill disabled children ran for the entire duration of the war.
But when adults started disappearing...
Then a hue and cry was raised by church leaders because that was something that they could not deny.
People who might have epilepsy.
Epilepsy was one of those conditions that might get you killed in Nazi Germany.
And so I actually kind of have this...
Perverse idea that as we see more adults harmed by these vaccines, and that will be undeniable, I think that the whole Pandora's box is going to open up.
Well, it's funny you say that because there's a theory that's just really breaking out today.
The question asked by Michael Snyder, who's an author and ran for Congress in Idaho, and he's saying, where have all the people gone?
Where are all the people that should be taking these jobs?
Millions of open jobs.
Over 10 million open jobs in America.
Small business employers can't find people to work.
And there's a theory.
Now, I admit it's just a theory.
I don't know what to make of it.
But there's a theory that there might already be millions of deaths from vaccines, but it's all being covered up.
You can't go onto Facebook and say a relative died.
You'll be banned.
But when a local news station, and this was covered by LifeSite News, when a local news station put out a call online on Facebook saying, hey, give us your stories of unvaccinated people who died that you know of, they were flooded with thousands of responses from people who said, no, I know people who died after being vaccinated.
Yeah.
What do you think of that?
All I can say is I'm hearing a lot of anecdotal stories like that.
For example, where I work, the custodians told me a story about one of their cousins who the father and two sons Shortly after getting their vaccinations, developed cancer.
You know, all three of them developed very aggressive cancers.
I'm hearing that that's popping up.
And, you know, when you're messing with the immune system, I mean, this is a powerful thing.
I mean, this is, you know, vaccines are not marshmallow lollipops, okay?
They are powerful, you know, medical interventions.
And so this one-size-fits-all, this, you know, you can't ask questions, I think is one of the most dangerous things that our human race Well said.
Well said.
I completely agree with you.
And by the way, I suspect your next book might be titled The Case Against the Censorship of the Case Against Vaccine Mandates.
Perhaps.
That's where this is all going.
You're not allowed to speak.
You're not allowed to read.
How can anybody observing this situation not realize that this is authoritarianism by definition?
Yeah, and you know, for a bunch of the scientific background of this, you know, Ending Plague, which is available right now, is a great resource because not only is Judy Mikevitz on, who, you know, is one of the most banned people on the internet, but her longtime collaborator, Dr.
Frank Russetti, 38-year government scientist, he actually won the Distinguished Service Award from the National Institutes of Health, which is the highest award a scientist can be given.
Also, who demanded to be in our book, Dr.
Luke Montagnier, the Nobel Prize winner for HIV. So there are good scientists out there.
They usually tend to be older because they don't have as much at risk.
But Ending Plague, while you're waiting for the case against vaccine mandates, I really encourage you to get Ending Plague.
Read it.
Put the reviews up.
We also have a documentary which is all finished, which should be coming out.
A really top Hollywood actor narrates it.
I can't say his name yet.
But there is a lot coming out.
And, you know, hopefully you're going to see me on a lot of platforms debating Alan Dershowitz.
And hopefully, you know, I can keep my lunch down while I'm doing it.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Well said.
Last question for you about natural immunity.
So this is just a conundrum where even through the history of the CDC and the FDA, they've always said, even right now on the FDA's website, for example, they say if you've had the chickenpox and you have natural immunity, you don't need a chickenpox vaccine.
Why have they just changed for COVID?
Well, you know, there's just so much that's going on.
You know, you've covered the emergency use authorization, which is only available if there's a treatment.
So, you know, that gets into the whole hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, other possible things that seem to treat it really well, but are off patent and therefore are not moneymakers for big pharma.
So it's staggering to me that these things that are called essential medications by the World Health Organization are suddenly dangerous.
As I've delved into this plague of corruption, I really don't trust any of them.
Maybe I start from a different perspective, and maybe that's why people need to pick up my books and see that I really do provide the evidence, which I believe supports my conclusions.
Well, I think your position of not trusting any authorities is now shared by probably hundreds of millions of people across the world who two years ago did trust the authorities, and now they don't.
And this is the other big story.
Here's the funniest thing.
I always talk about this.
When Judy Mikevitz put together her Plandemic 26-minute video, I wrote the opening for it, that Mickey Willis read, so I'm involved in this thing.
It got over a billion views before...
Before I got clamped down on.
And the two things that she was really saying in that is that, you know, first of all, this virus came from a Chinese laboratory.
It was manipulated, if not designed.
And secondly, you know, Fauci was not to be trusted.
And she was stricken off of all social media.
You know, we got denounced by Chuck Todd on Meet the Press.
And, you know, how is that looking like 18 months later?
You know, yeah, everybody's going, oh, yeah, probably came from the lab.
Oh, yeah.
Fauci goes back and forth.
I mean, I turn on Fox News every night for as much as I can handle, and they're all talking about what a fraud Fauci is, and you've got senators saying it too.
So I'm like, thanks guys for being 18 months late to the fight.
Yeah, exactly.
You and Mickey Willis absolutely nailed that, and it's just extraordinary work.
And by the way, a little factoid you may not know, Brighteon.com was one of the few platforms where that video could be found, you know, after it was being banned everywhere.
How big was the attack on Brighteon?
Well, yeah, we got hit with lots of attacks.
But the funny thing is, there were people translating that video into multiple languages, you know, Russian, Spanish, everything.
And those multi-language versions became very widely shared on our platform.
And we ended up getting a bill for like $40,000 in bandwidth.
Yeah.
Just for that video.
But we were happy to fund it because it's like, where else are you going to spend money?
This is waking up the world.
So we subsidized that film.
You may not know that, but yes, we did.
Do I owe you money?
No, no, no.
Can I do a layaway?
I even told Mickey, I said, this is what we're here to do, is to fund this, and you know what?
Bring them on.
More videos, more people watching.
This is humanity that we're fighting to save, so there you go.
But that's about it.
Any final thoughts here today, Kent?
You know, I just really have to say, I know people are scared about what's going on.
You know, I have lots of friends who, you know, may think that I'm absolutely nuts.
I know they do.
And what I really try to do is I really try to take an objective look at it.
I show my evidence.
I tell you, you know, I point you to all the sources.
And, you know, I just want to have a conversation.
And, you know, I'm not a bomb thrower at people.
You know, you can search my entire media profile.
You'll never find me using profanity, even though these are very serious issues.
So I'm going to engage respectfully with people.
I'm actually thrilled to be, you know, facing off against Alan Dershowitz because, you know, whatever you may think of him, he always conducts himself as a gentleman and I'm looking forward to that debate.
Yeah, exactly.
And thank you for that.
I'm glad you mentioned that.
And that's why I enjoy interviewing Dershowitz, because he has his own internal principles, he sticks to his principles, and he is polite.
Now, again, you would say he's completely wrong on his interpretation, but he's not a nasty, evil troll like so many of these other people who resort to those things.
So I welcome Dershowitz...
If Alan Dershowitz and I are in the same city, I'd take him to dinner.
I want to hear Alan Dershowitz's stories.
Exactly.
I'd love to have a great dinner, you, me, and Alan Dershowitz.
We would really have a great time.
I would so look forward to that.
Absolutely.
Okay, so again, finally, the book is The Case Against Vaccine Mandates.
Get it now on Amazon before Elizabeth Warren burns it.
There you go.
All right, thank you for joining me today, Kent.
It's been an honor and a pleasure.
Thank you, Mike.
All right.
Take care then.
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