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May 11, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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DEEP DIVE into covid with Sally Fallon and Mike Adams: 5G, spike protein, SPIONs and Germ Theory
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I credit my mentor, Mary Enig, who kept saying over and over again, when you eat too many polyunsaturates, your cell membranes become floppy.
They're leaky and floppy.
And they don't have that integrity that they would have if you were eating butter and meat fats and lard and tallow and so forth.
And of course, most Americans can't even get their head around that because they have been propagandized for 100 years that these fats are bad for them.
Welcome to Brighton Conversations on.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com, a free speech platform where you will hear conversations that are banned on most other platforms.
In fact, today we're talking to one of the authors of a new book, a relatively recent book, The Truth About Contagion, exploring theories of how disease spreads.
And it's Sally Fallon from the Weston A. Price Foundation.
And Dr.
Thomas Cowan is also one of the other authors on the book.
Now, this book has been subjected to some censorship types of pressures.
And we'll get into some of that.
But it's out on Amazon now.
And we're going to talk about it here freely without censorship.
So, Sally, it's great to have you back on.
Thank you for joining me today.
I always enjoy having conversations with you.
Thanks, Mike.
It's great to be here.
Absolutely.
So, the truth about contagion...
Now, we did an interview a couple of months ago, and we were kind of maybe sparring a little bit about, you know, viruses and origins of disease and so on.
But people are really fascinated by what you said in that interview and the terrain theory of disease versus the pathogen theory.
So could you give our viewers kind of a quick summary...
In case they're not familiar with that, what is that all about?
So we can then dig into the book in more detail.
Right.
So modern medicine is based on the germ theory.
And the germ theory was formulated by two people in the late 1800s, Louis Pasteur and Robert Koch in Germany.
And basically that theory said that every disease is caused by a specific microorganism.
And that gives the justification of For treating disease with poisons and vaccines and so forth.
It's interesting that nobody says every disease anymore.
Just to give you a good example, scurvy, it was considered, scurvy was considered an infectious disease.
After all, one person would get it on a ship and then somebody else and somebody else.
So obviously they were infecting each other.
And because of that attitude, it took a long time To convince people that this was a nutritional deficiency.
And same with the bellagra.
It was considered a contagious disease.
And then they found out it was a B1 deficiency, vitamin B1 deficiency.
I'm very interested in leprosy because that was considered extremely contagious.
Back in the early 1900s, they put people in a kind of prison.
They were just grabbed and put in these clinics and never allowed out because they were considered so highly contagious.
Today, if you read Wikipedia, it will say it's a little bit contagious, but actually the symptoms of leprosy are identical to the symptoms of squiridoma, which nobody would consider contagious.
So little by little, every disease that was considered caused by a microorganism That has given way to another idea.
And we're not saying that the microorganisms aren't there.
We're just saying that they're not the cause.
Well, one thing that has, I think, become obvious to anybody who's been thinking about it is that we are constantly surrounded by and even infiltrated by all kinds of particles.
and those particles, maybe some of them could be called viruses, but they're not alive.
They're particles.
Some of them could be toxic particles.
There are bacteria in the world around us, but they're all around us all the time.
So a lot of people have the question that I think you're pointing to, which is what causes a person to suffer an acute condition all of a sudden, What changed in that person or their immune response, let's say, that caused this acute condition when they've been exposed, that we've been coexisting with all these things all this time?
Right.
And in fact, the paradigm, we've seen a complete paradigm shift in the last 20 years about bacteria.
They were considered evil and bad for us.
The body was supposed to be sterile and then it was attacked by bacteria.
And now we realize that we live in a symbiotic relationship with bacteria.
So...
Why does somebody get sick all of a sudden?
And our proposal is that two things make us sick.
One is nutrient deficiencies and the other is poisons that we're exposed to.
Now, an acute illness like a cold or flu or something like that, I think most people in the alternative health world would agree that this is a kind of detoxification process where we have encountered toxins or We may be deficient in something.
A fever, for example, increases iron in the blood, so maybe we need iron.
I mean, who knows?
But if there are any bacteria associated with disease, they are there as the cleanup crew and not as the cause.
So, a lot of people then are wondering, what are the ramifications of this?
If this paradigm shift is embraced in what causes disease, and as you said, it's an opportunistic, maybe a nutrient deficiency in a person combined with...
Now, let's talk about toxins for a second, because the medical establishment, the science establishment, basically pretends that toxins don't exist.
They say that exposure to toxins, I mean, they don't even want to focus on that.
Right.
You know, malaria is a very good example here, because they're still looking for a vaccine for malaria, and of course they blame it on microbes carried by mosquitoes.
Very early in the days when they were actually looking at yellow fever, which is a type of malaria.
This is Walter Reed.
He had to admit that he could not show that malaria was contagious between, or yellow fever was contagious person to person.
Then he had to come up with this idea that it was the mosquitoes and so forth.
But they're swamp gases.
Malaria and yellow fever, these are Hot climate diseases and swamp gases like methane or hydrogen sulfide are toxic, you know, and they have the same symptoms that are ascribed to malaria.
And I'm very interested also in toxins in insect bites.
Mosquitoes have vascular dilators in their bites and that keeps the blood flowing while they're getting their meal.
Now, one mosquito bite is not going to harm anybody, but if you're depleted and you get bitten by a lot of mosquitoes, those vasco dilators we know have very similar symptoms to what they're calling malaria.
So you really don't need a microorganism to explain this disease.
But the key point is that if it's not a microorganism, if it is swamp gases, then the obvious thing to do is Either move away from the swamp gases or clean them up in some way.
You know, the other thing that strikes me as interesting about all of this is that chronic degenerative diseases, which are very often caused by nutrient deficiencies that continue over many, many, many years or decades, And they are treated with the same approach that medicine initiated with the germ theory, that for every disease there was a pathogen, and therefore there was a chemical that could kill the pathogen.
So for years, well, they continued to find, what's the chemical that can solve osteoporosis?
Or cancer, you know?
Or cancer.
We poison our cancer patients to death.
And really, it's a superstition that...
Dates back to the days of Aristotle, which was that if you fed yourself a little bit of a poison, then your body would be immune to a larger dose of that poison.
People really believe this.
I mean, Napoleon took little bits of arsenic, because he thought he was going to be poisoned by arsenic, and this was going to protect him against somebody poisoning him.
So today, it's a little bit of poison.
We put a little bit of poison in the vaccination to prime or push your immune system so you'll be immune to the bigger dose of the poison.
We give you poison, chemotherapy poison, to kill this cancer, so hopefully you'll survive the poisoning.
I know.
That's so crazy.
All of medicine is basically about poisons.
And there's nothing about nurturing people, protecting them from poisons and nurturing them.
And I think what people have seen has happened in these nursing homes with the COVID patients is a perfect example.
These patients basically starve to death and are poisoned by the treatments that they get.
So let me ask you about this, the Delta so-called variant of the coronavirus.
Now, it seems to me, as just an observer of this, that these variants are created by the media and that they are...
They are illusions created by the media.
But I've heard other very qualified PhDs, Dr.
Judy Mikovits, for example, talking about how this has never been isolated.
They can't, you can't have a, or they've never produced a bucket of Delta variant, for example.
Right?
So could you speak to that about the attempt to isolate these things and why haven't they been isolated if they're real?
Yes, and Judy's right.
I'm an English major, and I really don't like it when someone uses a word like isolation, but they don't mean isolation.
They mean something else, you know.
And they basically, there is a way to isolate a virus.
It's very time-consuming and laborious, and they end up not getting much virus.
So instead, they don't do that whole process of isolating the virus.
They take a kind of a mishmash of what they hope is viruses and cellular debris, and then they culture it in, for example, kidney cells or lung cancer cells.
And in the process of culturing it, they add antibiotics that actually cause a tissue breakdown.
And they can see that tissue breakdown and they blame it on the virus and not the poisons.
And something has been done recently, it hasn't been published yet, where they show you get exactly the same cytopathic effect, that's tissue breakdown, whether you are giving the poisons or what you think is the viruses.
Now, as to all these different variants, and there's a whole Greek alphabet.
So, you know, if people keep getting sick, they can blame it on the next letter of the Greek alphabet.
And then they start over in alpha again, I guess.
I'm waiting for the omega strain.
Yeah.
I'm sure they'll roll that out.
To omega, yeah.
But this is just playing kind of fast and loose with...
Genetic libraries that they have.
And you can send your tissue breakdown or you can choose from these different libraries.
And if you want to find a measles virus, you choose the measles virus library.
So if you want to say it's a Delta variant, I guess there's a Delta virus library.
But they really don't mean anything.
They just kind of...
So when you talk about these libraries, I think you're referring to the PCR test code base pairs matching sequence, right?
Well, yes, and really I'm not the one to talk about this in depth, but I know that they have all these sequences.
We're talking about hundreds of thousands of sequences, and they think, well, this Family of sequence or this bunch of sequences means this and this bunch of sequences mean that.
But they're not starting with anything real.
That's what I mean to say.
Yeah, right.
So basically somebody entered it into a database.
Yes.
They didn't take a virus and scan it and say, oh, this is what it is.
Somebody just said, oh, it's going to be this sequence.
They can't say what the sequences are because they haven't isolated the virus.
There you go.
That's the point.
Right.
And it's interesting.
I don't know if I told you this, but we run a food science lab and food manufacturing business.
And about a year ago, we were talking to Thermo Fisher and trying to purchase their PCR equipment for food safety testing.
Oh, yeah.
And during this conversation, by the way, ultimately, they refused to sell it to us.
Which tells you all you need to know about their science, right?
They refuse to sell it to us.
But during the process, I was asking them many, many technical questions, as you might imagine.
And one of the questions I asked them was, okay, can this instrument, this PCR equipment, can it tell me The amount, you know, the quantity of, let's say, a food microbe, let's say E. coli, take it.
Can it tell me how much E. coli is in this food?
I take a food sample.
I run it through your food aracocycle magic multiplication machine.
What does it tell me?
Does it tell me how much?
And they said, no.
No.
It can never tell you how much of anything.
It can only tell you that it has found one or more matching sequences.
And I said, do these sequences fully describe the E. coli bacteria?
And they said, no, no, no, no, no.
These sequences are just little...
Portions, little strings, bass pairs.
And I said, could these sequences exist from something else?
And they said, yeah, that's possible.
So I said, so what is your instrument telling me then?
You know, Mike, I have the same sort of background as you because we produce raw milk and raw cheese on our farm.
And...
We test every batch of milk with a very simple test that shows us the coliform levels.
And we can actually tell you how many colonies of coliform are in the milk or the cheese.
And we know that if we are not completely clean and we test quarterly for listeria, we'll get a positive test for listeria.
And in particular, I know that if there's any rust, listeria loves rust.
So the certain conditions will foster...
What we call pathogens that can produce toxins, that we know.
But that doesn't mean that if I am suffering from listeria, that I am going to pass it to you.
We might eat the same foods and it might seem like it's been contagious, but it's the same terrain.
It's not that we're passing it from one person to another.
And it's the toxin that's doing the damage, as you say.
Yes.
And, you know, in certain conditions, bacteria produce toxins.
And we're not talking about viruses here because viruses are not...
Not living.
Yes.
But I think people have misinterpreted me sometimes and said, well, it doesn't matter if food is clean, doesn't matter if the milk is clean.
And that's not it at all.
It actually is very important to have...
Your environment cleans, that you're not living with sewage gases or whatever to poison you.
Right.
Well, and I was asking you some questions along those lines in our last interview.
That's why I appreciate you clarifying as well.
And I agree with you that the toxins are the problem, but...
The so-called vaccines that they're using today are injecting people with toxic nanoparticles.
Yes.
That's what's crazy.
So you're being injected with...
A nanoparticle spike protein that is not living itself, but it is a toxin because it has a cause and effect, toxic effect in human physiology.
Well, most toxins are proteins.
Like snake venom.
Yeah, and you know, Mike, everybody's blaming Wuhan and viruses being made in Wuhan.
But that spike protein technology was developed in the United States.
I'm aware of that.
Yes, and there were a couple agencies that did it.
They had military funding.
DARPA. It is a bioweapon, and it seems, at least under certain conditions in certain people, they do multiply, and they have toxic effects, including promotion of blood clotting.
Well, yeah, absolutely.
So, get us into your book then.
What is it?
The Truth About Contagion.
So, we've just kind of scratched the surface here.
What does the book really delve into here?
Do you cover the spike protein and how that works in the book?
Well, no.
We hadn't even heard about a spike protein when we wrote the book.
I mean, this book we wrote in two months.
It was two things.
I wrote a blog On contagion, you know, is disease really contagious?
And that was a very popular blog.
And then Tom did a 10-minute talk that went viral about his theory, and we think it's a good theory, that this illness, and it is a serious illness, it's not just a mild flu, is caused by the rollout of a microwave technology called 5G. It certainly, the people started dropping dead in the streets when they turned it on in Wuhan.
It was in the same timeframe.
Then it spread to Europe, where they were turning on the 5G. And then it spread to New York, where it was first turned on in America.
Then the larger cities, and then it started reaching the smaller cities in the rural areas where they were turning it on there.
5G is microwaves, and we know that microwaves are toxic to people.
The defenders of 5G say, well, the power is so low that they can't hurt you.
This is 24-7.
You know, if they put up a 5G tower near you, you're getting exposed all the time.
Well, yeah, and new research has just come out, I think, in the last week showing that mobile phone use is absolutely linked to an increased risk of brain tumors.
Absolutely, absolutely.
And we had a dear board member who succumbed to brain cancer, and she had her office near a big tower, right outside her window.
And yeah, I mean, even our diet didn't save her or didn't help her.
So let's explore.
I'm sorry to hear that, obviously, but you've hit upon something that's quite fascinating, and this has been bouncing around the conversation sphere.
5G, how it interacts with diagnoses of COVID. Now, I've been skeptical of that point myself, but I do understand and acknowledge that 5G exposure to the skin creates peroxynitrites under the skin,
in the blood, and these are Extremely damaging molecules that cause oxidative damage and can interfere with the ability of the blood, the hemoglobin molecules, to correctly carry oxygen and eliminate carbon dioxide.
So yeah, go ahead.
I'm just opening that door.
It prevents the iron in the blood from carrying oxygen and also makes the iron extremely reactive.
We all know that iron, if it's not in the right place, Is very bad.
You know, we have an article coming out in our summer journal of the Weston A. Price Foundation called Questioning COVID. It's written by a physician in Italy.
And she says in this article that as soon as they change the phone system in these various nursing homes and change it to 5G or wireless phone system, that's when it broke out.
And she said the people caring for these patients were not exposed all the time because they went home at night and nobody got sick.
It didn't pass from patient to caregiver at all.
And her theory, a very interesting theory, is that what happens when you're overexposed to the millimeter waves is it depresses the sympathetic nervous system.
Now the sympathetic nervous system is the nervous system that allows us to act and to move and, you know, to take action.
And people just kind of slow down.
And if they're taking any of these drugs, like sleeping pills or antipsychotic, which so many people in nursing homes are, they also affect the sympathetic nervous system and the combination of being on these drugs and the exposure to 5G is lethal.
And the very first thing she does is take the patients off the drugs.
So it's not the double whammy to the sympathetic nervous system.
There is a phenomenon, and I think it's called electroporosis.
Have you heard of that?
Electroporesis?
Nope.
Well, maybe it's pronounced that way.
As I recall, it's electroporosis, but let me describe it.
It's that under the presence of an electromagnetic radiation field that penetrates the body, it increases the porosity or the ability, the osmotic capability of cell membranes so that substances in the blood move into the cells, right?
Yes, I would agree with that.
And, you know, we have, and this is what Tom Cowan is so passionate about, our cells are watery gels.
They're not liquid water, it's water in a forced state.
And they act as that gelled water basically separates the negative and positive charges, and it can act as a wire.
So if you have very good cell membranes, good robust cell membranes, It's like having good insulation in your wiring.
And let me just bring in...
You were correct.
It's called electrophoresis.
Oh, okay.
But the phenomenon is referred to as electroporosity.
Oh, yes.
Okay.
We're both on the right track, but continue.
Go ahead.
You're explaining it.
Well, anyway, this is why we advocate a diet that is very rich in saturated fats because that makes...
Keeps your cell membranes from being porous.
Yes.
And also the cholesterol in your cell membranes keeps your cell membranes waterproof and keeps it from being porous.
And that's your best protection against exposure to 5G because after all, none of us are not going to be exposed.
So when they take a typical person in America today, they put them on anti-cholesterol drugs to lower the cholesterol.
It takes away the protection of the cell membranes.
Then they flood their bodies with toxins in the form of psychotropic drugs or chemotherapy or what have you.
They're putting blood pressure medications.
They depress the sympathetic nervous system as well.
And then they get hit with 5G and all of a sudden the cell wall porosity is amplified by a hundred times.
Suddenly the levels of these chemicals in a person's blood that were not lethal Suddenly, boom, they're driven into the cells, and now it's a lethal dose, even though they didn't take it.
Exactly.
Right.
And the third thing is that most Americans are eating a diet very high in what I call industrial seed oils.
Right.
So polyunsaturates, and I... Credit my mentor, Mary Enig, who kept saying over and over again, when you eat too many polyunsaturates, your cell membranes become floppy, leaky and floppy, and they don't have that integrity that they would have if you were eating butter and meat fats and lard and tallow and so forth.
And of course, most Americans can't even get their head around that because They have been propagandized for a hundred years that these fats are bad for them.
And they're actually highly protective.
Sally, I think you're nailing it.
This is bombshell stuff here.
You're putting the pieces of this puzzle together.
And by the way, we've covered the toxicity of the seed oils.
Hundreds of articles on Natural News.
The soy, the corn, the rapeseed, canola.
It's like eating liquid death.
And that's even when they're not hydrogenated.
They actually have...
I've pretty much gotten the hydrogenated, well, partially hydrogenated ones out of the diet, but it's like going from the frying pan to the fire.
In fact, the reason they hydrogenated these fats in the first place was because they knew that they were toxic when they were liquid.
So they thought that if they hydrogenated them, they'd be safe, and it turned out that they weren't safe.
So, the other thing that strikes me about this conversation is that, let's say, someone living in a city exposed to 5G could theoretically be perfectly okay if they did not have their blood polluted with all these toxins and chemicals.
What if they had great nutrition?
And then the only thing that was increasing was the absorption of nutrients, you see.
So they could be okay, but it's this convergence of multiple factors.
Yes, yes.
Bad diet, toxic pharmaceuticals, and exposure to 5G. Yeah, well, I really think you should minimize your exposure to 5G and minimize your use of cell phones and all that.
I think we would agree on that.
But yes, I think that people who eat half a stick of butter a day like I do and cook in lard, I think they are going to be much more tolerant of this.
And I'm always struck by, you know, we have a growing number of people who are EMF sensitive.
That's right.
They cannot handle any exposure.
You know, they can't drive in an electric car.
They can't...
They can't use a cell phone at all.
They can't run on a treadmill, too.
I've heard that.
Most of these people are vegetarians.
Interesting.
Let me bring in something else here, the magnetism question.
Because when I first saw people reporting that these vaccines were making their bodies magnetic, I said, are you kidding me?
Come on, this is somebody joking.
But then now a more serious survey has come out of a European group that surveyed, I don't know, what was it, about 120 people Half men and half women and half vaccinated and half unvaccinated.
They just tried common refrigerator magnets on those people, and they found something really fascinating, which is that I think the vast majority of those who were vaccinated showed this magnetism on the injection site, but that the magnetism became stronger the more time that had passed after their original injection.
Really?
Exactly.
And none of the people who were unvaccinated showed this magnetism.
Zero.
But it reminded me of this research into what are called spions, which are superparamagnetic iron oxide nanoparticles.
And there's research about how they were injecting these into mice and then using external electromagnetic fields to drive these spions into nerve cells, you know, brain cells of the mice through external control.
And there's also the graphene oxide, which is...
Another question, yes.
Yeah, so some Italian scientists sent...
They were able to get hold of some vaccines, and they sent it for analysis, and they were mostly this graphene oxide.
I saw that.
These are carbon nanoparticles, but they do have electrical charge and they create magnetism.
So, you know, why would something like this be in a vaccine?
That's the first question we need to ask.
Well, you're exactly right.
Why is that in the vaccine?
Because we're told that, oh, it's just, you know, a weakened virus or something.
Well, isn't that the theory about vaccines?
Right, right.
But then why all this graphene oxide?
And by the way, I haven't independently confirmed that, but that lab seems like they know what they're doing.
So I'm going to go with that for now, cautiously.
But here's the question.
Going back to the magnetism, people's injection sites were becoming more magnetic over time.
Now, graphene oxide has been used in superparamagnetic particle creation.
My question is, my theory, is that there is self-assembly After the injection, in the body, self-assembly of nanostructures that demonstrate paramagnetic properties.
That seems to be consistent with what we're seeing.
Yes, and the magnetism was at the site of the injection, but then it was on the chest.
This survey didn't test all over their body.
They were just testing the injection site.
But I know what you're saying.
I've seen other people...
When I first saw those videos, I thought, oh, these people are just sweaty.
You know, they're leaning at an angle.
I mean, I wasn't impressed, but now they've done surveys and it seems to be very real.
Yeah, I think, you know, these vaccines are bioweapons.
They are not designed to protect you.
They're designed to make you sick and possibly to control you.
Or at least read you electronically.
What do you think, you know, you're with the Weston A. Price Foundation.
What would Weston Price think today?
Because he was blown away by just processed foods being brought into, you know, Pacific Islander culture.
But what would you think about what's going on today?
I don't know, but, you know, Weston Price was very critical of the idea that TB was caused by a bacteria.
He observed that people on healthy diets, even though the air quality was very poor, they lived in smoky thatched cottages or smoky tents, so they were constantly exposed to pollution.
They did not get TB. And then the next generation, along with the change in facial structure, he believed that it was a malformation of the lungs.
And that caused the breakdown of tissue in the lungs, and that was TB. So he would definitely not be advocating a bacterial or viral theory to what's going on today, for sure.
Is it possible...
I'm thinking about the role of ivermectin.
Is it possible that ivermectin is just nullifying a toxin?
Yeah, you know, I'm a little bit skeptical about ivermectin.
I don't know if this is like a backup conspiracy or something because it's a heartworm drug and it makes animals quite sick.
If I were to take anything, in fact, I do take something to protect me and that's just quinine drops because we know that the quinine seems to protect you against this depression of the sympathetic nervous system.
Maybe ivermectin does also, but I'm not as convinced on the ivermectin.
And, you know, people have had wonderful things to say about hydroxychloroquine.
Well, that's just the drug version of quinine.
That's true.
Yeah, I would just suggest that people, I have my little cocktail every evening and sparkling water and cochina, which is the quinine bark.
I'm with you.
I take quinine bark, and I also, on my podcast, I ate some ivermectin horse paste.
Yeah?
And what was it like?
It tasted like nasty, dirty socks, by the way.
And it was supposed to be apple-flavored, so I'm probably not going to do that.
A lot of people take it in Africa.
I guess it's for heartworm.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, apparently.
I heard somebody the other night, a French person, say he trusted it because so many Africans took ivermectin.
Okay.
I just don't know, but I think the quinine, which is an herb that was used by Native peoples long before the white man arrived to protect them against Malaria.
And by the way, it's not called bad bugs.
It's called bad air.
That's the name of the disease.
Oh, that's true.
Malaria.
Yes.
And when the doctors arrive, they say, well, that's just a superstition that it's caused by the bad air.
But we know what's in the swamp gases now, and we know the effects they have on the body.
That's fascinating.
I'm glad you just pointed that out.
I never thought about the Spanish, what the words actually mean.
It means bad air.
You're exactly right.
Wow.
And by the way, you know, we had, and I point this out in our book, the cities for two or three decades or centuries, excuse me, people crowded into the cities.
We had the Industrial Revolution.
And it took years for everything to catch up with that and that people were subjected to sewage gases which are very toxic and they were living in the most appallingly dirty conditions and you know just imagine and also we had horses so there were piles of horse manure everywhere and this made people sick and it was only when we cleaned things up That the cities became
livable again.
And also, we replaced the horse with the car.
Well, in San Francisco, they've replaced the horse with human manure.
So now we're reverting back to third world, worse than third world.
That's right, yeah.
Right?
So there's just human feces all over the streets.
I mean, Portland, Seattle, LA, the homelessness situation is totally out of control.
We see it in Austin, Texas here.
It's kind of like, it's worse than a third world because at least in a lot of third world conditions, it's more rural where you have nature to absorb.
You can go poop in the woods, but now they're just pooping in the streets of San Francisco.
I also think they had rules about pooping in the woods.
They did.
You did it in certain places and not others.
You didn't do it in the stream.
Right.
I think the point is, okay, so we had this new technology called the internal combustion engine, and that brought people into the cities and eventually did replace the horse.
But now we have this new technology, which is cell phones and 5G and everything.
And people have rushed to embrace it headlong.
It's just, that's what humans are, you know, this wonderful thing.
I think it's going to take several hundred years to clean it up and figure out how to live with this.
It's not like we want it to go away, but we want to learn how to live with this pretty dangerous technology.
Well, not only do people find value in, you know, they want the bandwidth because if they're oblivious to what's going on, they want instant videos and instant social media.
Download a movie to your cell phone in five minutes, yeah.
Right, right.
But the surveillance state wants the technology so they can spy on everybody in real time and have real-time video feeds.
They'll turn on your camera without your knowledge and just watch you walk around your home or something.
Yeah, and...
Right, and they can use it as a weapon also.
As a weapon.
And already, I think it's 95 nanometers or whatever, is already a weapon.
The military has this weapon.
Yeah, that's right.
I forgot the wavelength as well, but they use them as anti-personnel weapon systems.
It is the same frequency.
The thing that people don't realize about 5G is that it is focused on you.
It's a narrow beam.
It's not a wide beam that's broadcasting the whole thing.
It's actually following you.
These are directional antennas.
And one thing we don't know, Mike, is can the frequency be changed once you've got all these things installed in the towers?
Can they be revved up?
My son was pointing this out to me.
He said, Mom, you know, you cannot find out when you go see where the towers are, what the frequency coming from these towers is.
There's just no way to know.
So there's a lot of unknowns here.
And, you know, the question is, can they change the frequency?
Can they raise the frequency of these things?
An educated guess is, yeah, absolutely they can alter their frequencies, because there's a lot of frequency-hopping technology in these telecom systems, and sometimes they want a different frequency to penetrate fog or rain or a building, for example.
Different frequencies have different characteristics through ambient phenomena.
So I would, just my guess, maybe there's somebody who can comment on this video who knows this stuff better than we do, but...
There's got to be no question that they're able to use different frequencies.
Yeah.
Well, there's a lot of things you can do.
The good news is the 5G does not penetrate buildings, so you can make your home safe.
And in our book, which The Truth About Contagion is the title on Amazon, the contagion myth got us off of Amazon.
But anyway, in our book, we do have a very...
Easy to understand guidelines of how to minimize your exposure and also for your diet.
Oh, great.
Your guidelines about the kind of diet that will protect you.
So that's one good reason to check out your book, again, The Truth About Contagion.
Can you give us just a couple of teasers about some nutritional information that might help people be more resilient against 5G or perhaps spike protein?
Anything you can share with us?
Yes.
Well, for example, I have instead of a column, do this column.
So instead of commercial salad dressings, which are Just the worst garbage in the world.
Make your own salad dressing with olive oil and vinegar.
Instead of cooking oils, cook in butter, lard, or tallow.
Instead of margarine or spreads, use real butter.
So it just goes like that.
Instead of sugar and high fructose corn syrup, eat sweets in moderation made with natural sweeteners.
And instead of soft drinks, Fermented drinks like kombucha.
And one of the things that we like to say about our diet is there's really no renunciation in our diet.
There's always a good substitute for something that's bad for you, that tastes delicious, that's satisfying.
Our diet isn't really very strange or causing you to suffer and sacrifice.
It's a really satisfying Delicious diets that anyone can follow.
It's just knowing what to avoid and which food you can eat.
And I think it's liberating to know that you can eat all the animal fat you want, because animal fat makes you feel good, you know, makes people feel good.
Well, you're right, and you're reminding me that I'm lacking some barbecue brisket right now.
Well, make your own barbecue sauce, Mike, because the barbecue sauces that you buy are full of MSG. Oh, yeah, and high fructose corn syrup, too.
I have a giant smoking machine now, an offset smoker.
I smoke brisket now.
With the wood from my own ranch.
I use my own wood.
I can taste it, too.
It's pretty interesting.
Anyway, this has been fascinating, Sally.
Thank you for joining us.
The book is The Truth About Contagion.
It is available on Amazon and other booksellers right now.
Also, check out the Weston A. Price Foundation, folks.
My blog, nourishingtraditions.com.
All of this started with this blog.
I had no idea that it would take off like this.
But I've been doing...
I just did three blogs on building biology and how you can make your home safe.
Everything from the kind of light bulbs you use to...
Where you put your sensor filters, to making sure that you don't take your cell phone in your bedroom, turn off your wireless at night, that kind of thing.
So I did three blogs on that, and there's been a lot of traffic for those.
That's neurodegenerations.com.
Okay, nourishingtraditions.com.
Alright, well thank you so much.
Sally, this was a really fascinating conversation.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, thanks for coming on.
We'll talk again soon.
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