Dr. Jerome Corsi interviewed by Mike Adams on the deep state COUP against Trump
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Welcome everyone to Brighton Conversations.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon.
Today, we're talking with Dr.
Jerome Korsi of KorsiNation.com.
He is one of the most influential researchers and analysts of our time.
He's done extraordinary work in exposing the deep state and the treasonous Thanks, Mike.
It's great to be with you.
Thank you very much.
Well, thank you.
I've been a fan of your work for many, many years, and strangely, I don't think I've ever interviewed you before, so this is a great day to do this.
As we are approaching the election chaos, riots in the streets right now, what is at the top of your mind of what people need to be paying attention to?
Well, I mean, I've been watching this, and the chaos is just exceptional.
I've never seen it this chaotic.
The Democratic Party has become a Communist Party.
There's no doubt in my mind that they are now 100% Marxist.
The Democratic Party is wanting to get rid of its moderate wing, what's left of it.
And AOC and the others are leading the charge with this critical race theory, the social justice nonsense, which is Marxism in a current relativistic form.
I mean, it's a very bizarre set of theories.
At any rate, the chaos is what these people are all about.
And what has driven the hard left so radical, like they've gone over the cliff with this radicalism, is that they can't stand Donald Trump because Donald Trump confronts their agenda by believing in God, by professing America first, by wanting by professing America first, by wanting people to be able to build families and property.
The hard left, I mean, yes, Black Lives Matter scrubs their site, but they're clearly Maoists.
And until a couple of days ago, they had a whole screed on their site about why the family is no good and LGBT, you know, D and all the social justice nonsense of gender.
They are completely revolutionary Marxists.
It's what we've taught in our universities.
And we've got a group of people now in control of the Democratic Party that want to pursue.
They want a revolution.
They want to pursue this agenda.
And they are intent on this to do whatever they need to do to remove Donald Trump from the White House, because if Donald Trump wins reelection, they're desperately afraid in the next four years, their agenda will be dismantled.
And I'm desperately praying that they are right and it will be dismantled.
In fact, one of the most intriguing presentations that you gave in the last year or so talks about how President Trump has a legitimate plan to destroy these anti-American Marxist forces, these insurrectionist forces.
Do you think that Trump has the backbone to do what is necessary To achieve that end, let's say, after the election.
I mean, perhaps invoking the Insurrection Act, perhaps arresting treasonous actors and so on.
You're not going to be able to just sit back.
This isn't just going to go away.
You're going to have to take decisive action.
Is Trump willing to do that, in your view?
Well, yes.
I wrote a book, another e-book on my website, which is The Plan to Remove Donald Trump from the Presidency.
I wrote it in June.
Donald Trump read it.
And I laid out how this was altogether the Russian hoax, which we now know is complete nonsense, Ukrainian hoax, the impeachment trial in the Senate that was in February.
It's hard to even remember that happened this year.
So much has gone on.
And then COVID hits and we go into a lockdown, which is designed to destroy the Donald Trump economy.
We have Antifa and Black Lives Matter destroying the inner cities.
We're all locked down.
This is absolute chaos.
So there was a plan.
They had the military with Esper and Milley and the others, the people in charge of the Department of Defense and Joint Chiefs, saying, basically, we will not cooperate if you invoke the Insurrection Act.
That's really mutiny or insubordination.
I am saying the military is ready for a coup.
It was very dangerous.
I exposed that, the 25th Amendment, that all these books, John Bolton, this book, that book, Michael Cohen, saying Donald Trump is mentally incompetent.
Well, Donald Trump, I think, took steps and made sure that Pence was on board.
You can't use the 25th Amendment to remove the president if the vice president doesn't go along.
And now we're at the last stage where the idea is going to be to have massive voting fraud, to have lawfare where all the elections are thrown into the courts.
Hopefully the Democrats are saying, well, we'll postpone this until after the inauguration date, and so then we'll bring Nancy Pelosi in as next in the line.
We'll have the military drag Donald Trump out of the White House, and Nancy Pelosi will be president.
Now, I don't think any of that's going to work, because so far, Donald Trump has been able to beat every one of these attempts to disrail him.
I've always said about Donald Trump, he always looks like he's going to lose until just before he wins.
I've known him in New York City, not well, but professionally, I've known him in the city for many, many years, and he's quite successful and quite bright.
He's also shrewd, and right now, There's limited steps that he can take.
When I wrote that book, if you read it, you'll see how you have to see this as really a coup d'etat, continuing plot.
And as we get new documents coming out, we see, in fact, how the Department of Justice, the Obama administration, FBI were really removing a president.
That was their goal.
Even when they knew there was no Russian collusion with Trump, they still pursued trying to find evidence that they could create.
I was part of that.
They wanted me to take a plea deal, and I refused.
I did not have contact with Julian Assange.
They threatened to put me in prison for 25 years with a cordon I'm not going to stand before a judge and swear before God to a crime I didn't commit.
That broke their entire investigation.
One more point I want to make.
Donald Trump has got to be careful.
Because this is a carefully architected plan.
What we're seeing in the streets today has been, this is rehearsed.
This has been a plan that was used in the color revolutions that George Soros funded with the State Department, Ukraine, the Orange Revolution, Maidan Square, where they overthrew a President Yanukovych who fled to Moscow.
This is used as a chaos to create a change of government.
They tried it in the Arab Spring.
They did this in Egypt with the Tahiri Square where they had all the protesters for so many months.
Same formula.
And if Donald Trump sends in the military...
It's what the protesters want.
They want chaos.
They want blood in the streets.
It intensifies the violence.
It scares people deeper.
What Donald Trump is doing is really fairly brilliant because now we see that this is Joe Biden's campaign.
This is his presidential campaign being run in the streets of Portland, Oregon, Seattle, and New York City, and no reasonable adult person wants to live under this chaos.
Right, right.
But does the dynamic change after the election?
Because some of my sources have told me that Trump will remain hands-off until after the election, but at that point he and the federal law enforcement get very aggressive.
Do you think that's true?
Well, I think he's already...
I mean, first of all, a key element in Trump's ability to survive the presidency, I think, is almost an intervention of God that had Ruth Bader Ginsburg die, all she had to do was stick it out a few more months and they thought they could put Biden in there.
She didn't resign when Obama was president, where Obama could have appointed someone much younger who was as radical or more radical than she is.
And so now Trump gets a Supreme Court nomination and confirmation, which will occur.
And the balance of the court goes from five to four, with Ginsburg on the court, to in favor of more conservatives, the Constitution is six to three.
Regardless of who he appoints, I mean, a Supreme Court appointment is never predictable 100%, but I think he'll get someone who he's confident will, when these vote fraud cases come, not allow the mail-in voting.
But what about Roberts?
Are we counting Roberts as a constitutionalist now, or is he gone?
Well, Roberts, you never can tell what Roberts is going to do.
Certainly, he's been disappointing from the very beginning with the Obamacare decision, saying it was constitutional.
And he was taught constitutional law by Larry Tribe at Harvard.
And Larry Tribe is one of the chief architects of this lawfare, which is a revolutionary idea of using the law to destroy the law, packing the court with liberal judges, having all kinds of rulings like you see in the General Flynn case, which don't really make any sense legally, but certainly throw a monkey wrench which don't really make any sense legally, but certainly throw a monkey wrench into the process of being impartial and It becomes a political weaponized law.
But at any rate, I think when the balance of the court shifts with one more person, Roberts is going to have a lot more people within the court arguing with him, saying, you know, this is nonsense.
You can't do it this way.
And if he's inclined to go left or being blackmailed, which is another theory, and I have no proof of that, to go left.
They say because of adopted children.
There's lots of theories.
But I think the point is Roberts can be brought more conservative because we have the one more seat.
And the fact that it's 6-3 means that even if Roberts waivers, it's still 5-4.
Right, right.
And so, you know, we've got a much better buffer now in the Supreme Court, and I think that's a critical factor because these contests, we're finding ballots thrown away and ballots that are going to be nine days counted after the election, which is absurd.
Right.
We've had enough time to expose the vote harvesting or the producing of enough mail-in ballots that are made up to swing an election after Donald Trump wins on Election Day.
I also think right now the...
I judge presidential elections on the basis of candidate enthusiasm, and Donald Trump is still charismatic.
He's drawing massive crowds.
Biden is...
He has no campaign whatsoever.
He's not charismatic.
He can't get 10 people to show up to hear him.
I don't know if they could pay 10 people to hear Biden.
The architect with optics, they're all sitting around in circles, social distancing.
It looks stupid.
Donald Trump's at least calling his peaceful protests.
Like the rioters in the streets, they don't have to wear masks and they don't have to social distance.
And he's packing huge crowds again in the open air, not in an auditorium, but bringing the plane up to a hangar.
He's getting 25,000, 30,000 people to And they're getting more people or Trump supporters standing by the road to a Biden event to watch him come in and chant four more years for Trump than you have in the Biden event itself.
Biden, I think, is suffering clearly mental dementia.
He's suffering some form of senior dementia.
I don't know what it is, but it's obvious.
And his health is terrible.
He gets exhausted.
He has to put the lid on travel, do nothing for a whole day after he's been out for a day.
The debates, I think, are going to be very difficult for him, even if they pump him up with amphetamines and coach him as to what the questions are likely to be, or if the Democrats, like they did in 2016, managed to get the questions from Fox or get the questions through some way or other from Chris Wallace.
Well, you know, again, they'll prep Biden, but I don't think he's going to do well.
So a massive turnout on Election Day, people voting in person, is going to, again, make it harder to steal the election, especially if we get some court rulings that limit the mail-in balloting.
A couple of questions.
Are you aware of the format of this debate?
Is Biden going to be joining in remotely, or are these in-person debates?
I think they're in person.
I have not seen any provisions for remote.
So if that's in person, then it makes it impossible for Biden to simply read his answers off a teleprompter.
Yes, but they can coach him.
Like, they'll say, okay, here's the ten answers you've got to get down.
We're not going to spend the next few days.
We're just going to do these ten.
But I think there's still a very high chance that Biden bombs big time sometime during that debate, especially if there's any kind of free-for-all conversation where Trump really excels, by the way.
Yeah, Trump will be off the cuff.
He'll say things.
And I'm sure Trump is now thinking it through and getting some coaching as to how to be spontaneous and how to trigger one of these episodes in Joe Biden.
There's enough brilliant psychologists and psychiatrists that can tell them, here's what you do.
And Biden will not be able to pivot and respond.
I also think that a lot's been happening with law enforcement.
I mean, my advice, if you read this e-book I've written on the plan, I wrote that plan to remove Donald Trump from the White House in June.
So he would read it.
Others would read it because once you see what they're doing, you can stop it.
And so my recommendations for dealing with the violence in the streets is, first of all, which Barr is doing, is that you make sure you collect all the videotape and you begin doing face identification and you identify them.
Now, they probably arrested at least two or three hundred.
By the time you go around the country and have the federal agents arrest 2,000 or 10,000 of these protesters, and they're hauled away into a federal court, criminal court, and they're no bail.
They don't get released.
And they're facing 25 years in prison when they're 20 years old or 18 years old or whatever, and they realize they've ruined their lives.
It's not going to be so much fun to go out in the streets and, you know, act like a wild, raging, psychopathic teenager burning things down because there's going to be consequences for it.
I agree with you.
You only have to arrest a few thousand people to stop most of these riots, and a lot of that was deputizing the local law enforcement under federal authority so they could place federal charges so that the George Soros-funded local DAs wouldn't just let everybody back out, which is what had been happening.
So I think that's brilliant.
Another thing they're doing, which I think is also very good, is the realization of defunding.
In other words, we had Barr this past week declare that three cities were now anarchist cities, controlled by anarchists, which is Portland, Oregon, Seattle, and New York City, de Blasio, and the various mayors on the West Coast.
And as such, they're not going to get federal funding.
And also, Nancy Pelosi wanted her COVID relief package to include trillions to bail out these bankrupt Democratic governors and mayors who have destroyed cities like New York and people are leaving in droves, their tax bases are diminishing, they're going to have to start laying off social services.
And Donald Trump said, no, we're not funding you guys.
You guys want to destroy your cities and your Democrats?
Good luck.
We'll let the Democrats' cities deteriorate into these mob scenes and see if the people who live there want to continue living that way.
Exactly.
These are steps that you can take without playing into the game.
See, I did a lot of consulting with my academic career.
I did a lot of work on terrorism.
I actually created a computer model that predicted the outcome of terrorist events.
In the early 1980s, it was published in a journal of conflict resolution at Yale, Game Theoretic Journal.
And I was recruited onto a team that was working with psychiatrists around the world I really advise the State Department and others on terrorists.
And I basically said terrorism, or what's going on in the streets today, is like a bad playwright.
They've got a great first act.
Okay, we show up, we burn the city down, we terrorize everybody, we go mad like screaming devils and demons out of hell through the city, we create chaos.
Okay, that's act one.
In Act 2, in their minds, it's like a bank robber.
They're bad playwrights.
Bank robber's got a great opening act.
Act 1 is terrific.
Walking in the bank, I got guns, everybody hold your hands up, give me the money.
Great.
Okay, Act 2, how am I going to get out of here?
Well, now the play begins to deteriorate.
Act 3, they give you exploding money and you turn up with orange dye all over you.
Well, Act 3 isn't working out so well.
So the job is to rewrite the play so it's Act 2 and Act 3 are your acts.
And basically, you begin to say to these terrorists and others, no, we're not going to have revolution.
We're going to arrest you.
You're going to be indicted.
Go to prison for 25 or 30 years.
These cities are going to be deteriorating.
We're not going to fund them.
And by the way, here's the solutions to this.
Namely, oh, well, we don't have kids going to school.
Well, I guess kids can go to school remotely.
Let's do homeschooling, and let's close down the public schools.
Let's get rid of the teachers' union.
Let's say the universities, if you're going to teach this critical race theory nonsense of Marxism, you lose federal funding.
Cut the money, and you will cut a lot of the socialism and communism.
And also it doesn't provide CNN that video footage that they want to show to claim that Trump is a military dictator, mass-murdering innocent, peaceful protesters in the streets, right?
When Democrats begin being thrown out left and right...
When people in America, which, you know, America is not Hollywood or Hollyweird, and it is not New York City.
And New York City is actually, I think, changing very rapidly.
The money moves out.
You know, you get a lot of these leftists who have, you know, these fuzzy ideas of do-gooders.
But finally, blacks wake up and they realize that it's the liberals who are making all the money, and they've been kept on the plantation, the Democratic plantation, because the Democrats need victims in order to make and steal money.
Part of Biden's game over in Ukraine with Burisma was he was also able to get foreign aid to Ukraine, For their natural gas and other energy industries to compete with Russia, that money comes into Brisbane and other companies through the private banks owned by the oligarchs, and Biden and companies steal the federal aid.
So you get U.S. money allocated somewhere, and then you steal it.
On a cause that has a victimization to it, and the blacks don't get any of the money.
So Donald Trump's saying, you know, why are you guys continuing to be conned like this?
We'll offer you jobs.
We'll get your families.
We will offer you opportunities, which is what Martin Luther King wanted.
Martin Luther King said, quit the discrimination, and we will excel.
Right.
And a colorblind society, and these people want to intensify race in order to make it an issue so they can make money.
Absolutely, yeah.
What we really need is a merit-based society that is colorblind, and that is what Dr.
King recommended.
Let me shift gears here, though, a little bit to get your opinion on Durham and Barr.
Trump has expressed a lot of frustration about how long these investigations are taking.
We've seen some leaked emails and so on, documents that have shown what appears to be a lot of criminality and obstruction of justice inside the FBI, of course, with the FISA warrants and so on.
Do you think Durham is for real?
Is he really onto something?
And is Barr going to take action?
Or are they going to just draw this out forever and let it go away?
The great tendency in Washington is to cover things up and continue with the institution as it is.
So Barr is loyal to the Department of Justice.
He doesn't want to destroy the Department of Justice.
He was part of the Iran contract cover-up when he was head of the, you know, before when he was in a position of authority in the Department of Justice under the George H.W. Bush administration.
So if you'll notice very carefully, and it's not by accident, what's happening, and Barr's been put on notice, By Grinnell, first of all, the Acting Attorney General Richard Grinnell, and now by John Radcliffe, who is the Permanent Director of National Intelligence, and also some international sources that have said to Barr and Durham, okay, we're going to drop documents.
We're going to make them public.
It started with Grinnell releasing the footnotes in the Horowitz Report, which made it clear that the Steele dossier was Russian disinformation planted by Russia to destroy Trump.
We just got, you know, now more information on General Flynn, that even within the Department of Justice, the attorneys like this Jeanne Rhee, who was one of the prosecutors in Mueller who went after me, I can tell you a complete partisan, rabidly anti-Trump.
And that's reflected now in documents that we're getting, that these were not cases.
Now, as these documents get released, including the documents that Biden attended the meeting after early January 2017, before the inauguration, where the Obama administration decided to go after Flynn, These are going to be very damaging.
The American people are now understanding that crimes were committed.
So even if Barr did not want to have indictments, he's going to be cornered.
He's going to have a choice.
The documents are going to be released.
He's been given kind of like a period of time here to do the right thing.
If he doesn't, he becomes part of the cover-up, and that'll be released.
So you may have asked for a grace period, and he's moving to take some steps.
If he doesn't, I can guarantee you that between now and the election, there's going to be so much information released, including the Senate report on Joe Biden.
We now have the Clinton Foundation for Uranium One under criminal investigation.
There's a book that has just come out.
I just got my copy of it the other day here on this October surprise, which makes it clear the Wiener laptop had in it sex material, pedophilia involving the Clintons, maybe even movies, which were disgusting.
This is all coming out in the recent days, and this is not accidental, right?
This is a design move to say basically to Durham, do something or else.
I think it'll corner them, and I think they'll have to do something.
Yeah, because to those of us who are patriots, it really does look like they're dragging their feet and they're just protecting the system as if they are extensions of the swamp sometimes pretending.
Well, they are.
They're institutionalists.
They're Washington.
Washington's a very comfortable place.
I'm saying that we need to consider...
Moving the entire bureaucracy out of Washington.
I'd like to put it all in Death Valley.
There's nothing in the Constitution that says it has to be in Washington.
Move the Justice Department to Death Valley, and let's see how many of these comfortable leftist globalists, Georgetown coffee shop elite, want to go to Death Valley to continue doing their jobs.
It's a way to get rid of them all.
Good point.
This leads me to my next question, and I'm not aware of your public views on QAnon, but I thought I would just ask you, because the Q movement, which I haven't talked about much at all, but it's been under attack by the mainstream media recently, which kind of piqued my interest a little bit, what's your take on the QAnon movement and who's behind it?
Well, I mean, General Flynn started it with his whole digital patriots.
He was going to use this methodology to release information to the public, bypassing the intelligence agents.
And it was very carefully crafted.
I got recruited early on to do decoding of it by some people who were very knowledgeable and plugged in in New York City who asked me to do the decoding.
And it became a PSYOP. Because as soon as it began to be successful, I'm talking about into 2017, it got started.
2018, it was being co-opted because the intelligence agencies saw its effect and foreign actors saw its effect and they decided to corrupt the movement.
Also, some greedy people in the United States decided they would try to capitalize on it.
I began to try to take it over.
So for a period of time, I felt it was largely misinformation that was designed to say, don't worry, we have a plan, everything's okay.
It said to trust the plan, and it'll be just fine.
Well, a lot of the predictions never happened.
A lot of the information was wrong.
I think General Flynn is beginning to take steps to revive it.
And I think in recent periods, it's been a little bit more accurate.
I think the movement has to be distinguished from the Q identity, because I strongly support the movement, which is a patriots movement, and they want justice, and they want the inside information.
They know the amount of disinformation, the amount of lies that we're being told are tremendous.
And that's, again, part of, I think, what the Q movement is designed to reverse.
And I think it'll be successful in doing that.
But, you know, as I look at this, I don't want to fight with the Q movement.
And if General Flynn gets back out, I know General Flynn.
I've met General Flynn.
I've been able to be in touch with General Flynn.
Not necessarily now.
Talk to him once or twice, but I leave him alone while he's going through these legal problems.
I know Sidney Powell is attorney quite well.
She's brilliant, doing a great job, and I don't want to be interfering.
But once he's free of all this, which he will be, I will see if I can't do something to work with him and to get him involved again.
Speaking of Sidney Powell, as I understand it, she recently said that she was taking steps to take this Flynn case to the Supreme Court because she's never seen this degree of malfeasance and corruption in the courts.
But hasn't the corrupt court, in essence, and I forgot the name of the judge who's involved, what's his name?
Judge Emmett Sullivan.
That's right, Sullivan.
So corrupt.
Such a treasonous criminal, in my view.
Hasn't he succeeded, though, in shutting down Flynn, at least until the election, by running these delaying tactics and these insane legal maneuvers where the judge himself thought he could become a plaintiff and not dismiss the case?
I mean, it is insane.
Well, they destroyed Flynn's life for four years.
Ruined his family, put him into economic hardship.
He had to sell his house.
I've been through it with these people in the Justice Department.
They try to economically ruin you.
They try to ruin your life.
They put you under intense pressure.
I think the Mueller prosecutors, in my case, in General Flynn's case, suborn perjury.
They would put a gun at his son's head and said, we'll pull the trigger unless you sign this paper.
That's not justice in America.
That's Gestapo justice.
That's the KGB. And yes, Sullivan's prolonging that agony.
But in the process, what's been exposed in these things, again, I see the hand of God.
They've exposed the evil corruption of the deep state.
Any right-thinking person who looks at what's happened to General Flynn, especially with what's coming out now, and these documents are playing a piece in reframing the whole situation so we see the corruption, that it's clear that these were lying criminals who were running the Justice Department, who broke the law in order to achieve a political purpose, okay?
And that's apparent.
And, you know, the documents actually say that from within the Department of Justice.
We now know there were various of these people, including in the intelligence community, were buying professional liability insurance because they were afraid they were going to have huge legal costs if it ever got exposed what they really did.
They ought to think about the criminal consequences as well.
Now, I want to make one more point.
Sidney Powell could not go to the Supreme Court immediately because there is a process.
She had to go to the circuit court.
The circuit court had an on-bank hearing, and there's a group.
So all of these steps were taken in order to prolong it.
But now she's at a point where she can go to the Supreme Court.
And again, I'm going to go back to my previous point.
She'll be going to the Supreme Court when, in fact, Ginsburg is gone.
So she's going to have a much better opportunity.
This thing is being architected, as it were, in a way where I think what's happening is we're seeing, and again, in the hand of God, I think a lot of prayer, a lot of people working on this, where, in fact, it is turning on.
Like, okay, the Q movement, the Great Awakening.
I think we're having an opportunity to see a Great Awakening.
I think more people now are aware of that the left is Marxist and Marxism is destruction.
It's lies.
It's for the small group of Marxists to make all the money.
Kamala Harris, with her rich husband, lawyer, who has a history himself in government, Now a millionaire?
Hollywood lawyer?
Yeah, she's one of the...
How about Bernie Sanders with all of his houses?
And the Antifa and the Black Lives Matter don't understand that the history of these movements are...
They're the first to be eliminated, should the movements succeed.
Yeah, and, you know, also...
The speed at which the GOP Senate is now moving towards confirming a new nominee to the court, many of these senators are quoting the horrendous treatment that Kavanaugh was subjected to by a malicious Democrat and media conspiracy to try to smear Kavanaugh.
So it's backfiring.
It's actually causing the GOP senators to move more quickly and to confirm with more certainty this new nominee.
The whole thing has backfired.
I mean, this is the whole point about the screaming demons in the city like the gates of hell have been opened.
Now we see this is what Marxism is all about.
Anybody had any doubt, just watch a few hours of the rioting in Seattle or Portland or New York City.
Look at the cities destroyed and shut down.
The Democratic governors won't let people go to work.
In epidemics, COVID-19, you quarantine the sick.
You don't quarantine the healthy.
You don't wear masks.
You let people get their immune systems robust.
We also breathe in antibodies in addition to them.
And it's not even certain that Fauci and these other doctors who are conflicted, They hold patents on disease elements, treatments for disease elements, like this COVID-19 has in it the glycoprotein 120 and the spikes of the virus from HIV-1 AIDS. Well, Fauci has patents for treatments of glycoprotein 120.
He makes money.
The NIH and CDC are public-private partnerships.
They're quasi-governmental.
And with the structure they have in place, these scientists have a conflict of interest.
They're biased towards pharmaceuticals.
They demonize hydroxychloroquine and zinc.
I've got a whole program on my website, the TeleMD program.
We're not selling hydroxychloroquine, but we can get you an interview with a doctor who can prescribe it and a pharmacy who can get you the prescription filled and mail it to you.
And that's all legal because the FDA still allows doctors to prescribe hydroxychloroquine off-label.
But the point is that Fauci, if you listen to Fauci, his advice has been so...
Ridiculously stupid.
They don't even know what they're talking about.
One day masks are okay.
One day masks are not okay.
One day the disease is airborne.
One day it's not airborne.
We need to lock up everybody or two million people will die.
In a model that was completely bogus, a statistical model.
Again, we're seeing the fraud...
Displayed in front of us.
And that's one of the great awakenings.
That's one of the unusual moments of history where there's the government lying with a CIA and media that architect a reality.
You know, the John Kennedy was killed by a lone assassin from a six-floor window with a World War II rifle that didn't work well even in World War II. And we're supposed to believe that.
You know, we go into Vietnam and we get the Pentagon Papers that say the entire Vietnam War was a fraud from the beginning and they knew it.
Lied.
And now people are really seeing the corruption in government.
And what I'm saying, the only thing to do, and our founding fathers knew this, is reduce government to a bare minimum.
Well, move the bureaucracy out.
Bureaucracy is not in the Constitution.
Get it out of D.C. Make these people quit.
Put term limits on the bureaucracy.
And make it so that it's government service, not a career in which you get wealthy, get to live in the Beltway, go to the Kennedy Center and see opera, and all the things that D.C. offers.
Let's reduce the travel congestion, if it ever gets opened again, around the Beltway in D.C., And get rid of these people, because they're all globalists, they're all trained in the universities, they all have a mindset that's anti-American.
I think the average American can see this, and we don't want our children raised in a godless society where the person reading the story hour is a transvestite who decides not to wear any underwear that day so the children can see everything.
While they're dressed like a demon, too, as well.
Crazy.
Okay, last big question for you then.
In your view, what does a second Trump term look like?
I mean, starting even from Election Day, because we anticipate a lot of legal turmoil between Election Day and Inauguration Day, but assuming Trump makes it through all that, you know, he's going to go after the deep state, I'm convinced, but what does all that look like exactly?
First of all, we've seen it all year.
It's not going to change.
It's been chaos all year.
And I'm saying, you know, this e-book and others that, you know, I have an e-book on COVID-20 where there's going to be another disease architected.
The chaos isn't going to go away.
The deep state isn't going to just suddenly say, oh, you beat us, we die.
They're going to have to be a nasty, you know, a stake's going to have to be put through their nasty little heart.
And part of that is prosecutions.
And part of that is going to be taking their money away and exposing all the Corruption and the theft of government money, the welfare, all these things that support, you know, basically Tammany Hall written large in all of our democratic states.
It's got to be ended.
Now, that's going to be a chaotic process.
And it's going to...
And Donald Trump, I think...
He's uniquely suited to manage this because he has certain unique properties in his psyche.
He doesn't mind, as long as you're talking about him, you turn on every channel and they're talking about Trump.
While some of them hate him, they're still talking about him.
The worst thing for Trump would be if nobody talked about him.
He puts his name on buildings in New York City.
And he's always been controversial.
He builds Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue, puts this beautiful building up.
Well, he had to tear down this Bonwet Teller building, which was this 1930s Art Deco thing that all the literati...
And the Metropolitan Arts Club and all their patrons loved in New York for these frescoes.
He bought that building, took a wrecking ball and destroyed it before they could put it on the preservation list.
Well, so a lot of people in New York hate him.
But they also, a lot of people love him.
And the love-hate in Donald Trump is part of who he is.
But he doesn't seem to mind.
And he achieves what he wants to achieve.
I think he's gotten more godly.
I think he's always had a destiny in his mind that he would be president.
I think he's president at a moment of destiny when he can save the republic.
I think he knows it.
And I believe he will, in the second term, when he's not worried about re-election, take even more aggressive steps to, for instance, they've already introduced and set up procedures to stop the censorship in Silicon Valley, break up these companies like Google and these others.
I think they are going to go after the hate crimes laws in the universities which are teaching Marxism.
I'd like to see us get rid of the student tuition program because these universities can't expand with their leftism without money.
Get rid of the school system and the unions because kids don't need to go to private school where they're being taught nothing.
And I think homeschooling will now have a new rebirth.
People are learning they can live wherever they want.
They don't have to pack into these democratic cities in order to earn a living.
We're going to do some fundamental changes here.
And I see the hand of God trying to architect this and giving us a chance To get back from the abyss of this evil globalism leftist nonsense that we were being architected into.
And maybe in this century, as you know, we go into kind of a new epoch or era, we reject communism, we reject the left, we reject Mao, we reject all these things as malware of the brain.
And come back to the fundamentals that have always worked for human beings, which Marxists may find very boring, but it is Jesus Christ, it is the Bible, it is traditional values, it is families, it's education of children, it's discipline, and these things are not easy.
Staying in a marriage, etc., but yet they are the fundamental formulas.
I always thought, okay, so Moses comes down from the mountain, And he's got the great instructions from God in the Ten Commandments.
Of course, they're worshiping a golden idol.
He has to smash those and go get them a second time.
But when he says, okay, now, what are these great instructions from God?
Well, God says, don't kill your neighbor.
Don't lie.
I am Lord thy God, honor me.
I say, you really have to tell human beings these things?
I mean, a person should know this.
Don't kill people, don't lie.
These are the Ten Commandments?
Yes, because our nature is such that we need to be instructed on these things.
Children need to be, and it has to be learned in every generation.
Well, I completely agree.
The return to those core values is part of what can save America.
But if you don't mind, just one counterpoint to what you said.
Even if Trump makes it to a second term and serves throughout a second term, isn't 90% of the bureaucracy not only anti-Trump, but in some sense anti-America now?
Unless we get rid of that bureaucracy, then when Trump's gone, all that big government evil just comes back again and haunts us For the future, right?
Well, like I've said on this show and said many times, I'm sure Trump's gotten the idea, move the bureaucracy out of D.C. There's already been legislation introduced to do that.
Trump's already moved some of it out of D.C. Yeah, like the EPA, I think, or some of the EPA. Yeah, just move the whole thing to places where people don't want to go.
Dalhart, Texas is a good one.
The feedlot's there.
Put a lot of it in Dalhart, Texas.
Let them smell the cattle.
Yeah.
Cattle aren't very pleasant smelling in a feedlot.
Greeley, Colorado.
Yeah.
Some people like really Colorado.
I'm more thinking of the Mojave Desert, Death Valley, you know, the southernmost tips of the United States where you can fry eggs on the sidewalk.
I'm thinking of places like that.
Okay.
Yeah, good point.
Yeah, it shouldn't be one giant party.
And also all the government gyms are open inside the EPA buildings while all the private gyms are shut down because of COVID restrictions.
It is insane.
Yeah, and I think put term limits in.
And Trump will catch on to these ideas.
He's very quick on these things, and he'll pick it up.
And enough people are understanding today that we need to get rid of the bureaucracy.
Our founding fathers warned us that big government is inherently evil.
Yes.
It will inherently become evil, that we need reduced government.
Well, we've gotten too much government.
We've had too much reliance on government to solve our problems.
We need to get back to what makes America great, which is the independence, the free thinking, the First and Second Amendments, all the amendments, the ability to disagree with each other, the ability to create a business even if you fail, family structures, which provide through churches and others, charity, which is not based on state-based.
I think we've got too much state.
None of this will be accomplished...
But the point is, first, you've got to have the Great Awakening.
People have got to see it.
And now that they see it, now we can start saying, well, what steps do we take to get there?
And Trump will be very good at putting in the steps and putting out the signposts to say, here's the way we need to be going in the future.
In a second term, he's got to have more freedom to do that.
Plus, I think Trump deserves a third term because they tried to shut him down in his first term with fake Russia collusion.
I don't think he wants it, but we have to then now start saying pretty quickly who's going to be our next candidate, and right now the Democrats don't have a candidate.
Yeah.
They don't have another charismatic Marxist on the scene like Obama.
And they played that act already.
They played that card.
Now they've got a guy who's gone in senior dimension and a Marxist woman who's from not a black American from slavery.
Right.
Slept her way into where she is and with a very bad personal history and Attorney General in California, where she put in prison a lot of blacks for minor crimes of marijuana and the like, and she was brutal doing that, and she isn't liked in the black community.
Trump could win 40% of the black vote and 40% of the Latino vote, I'm predicting this year.
Will Joe Biden be replaced, or will he be the candidate?
They stuck with him.
Yeah, if they replace him now, they for sure lose.
And for now, they think that they can yet get through with him.
And, you know, the only reason they're going to debate is they know they would lose more votes not debating.
They've done their polling of the Democrats.
So they're going to debate, and the debates are going to be a disaster for them.
Indeed, indeed.
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Thank you all.
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