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April 29, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Aliens AMONG US? Interview with Mike Bara about UFOs, life on Mars and more
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Welcome to Bright Town Conversations.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com, the free speech alternative to YouTube.
And today you're in for a real treat.
We're going to cover some topics that get you banned on YouTube, if you dare talk about them.
And in fact, our guest has been in YouTube prison for more than a month.
His name is Mike Barra, B-A-R-A. You might know him on YouTube.
His channel is MikeBarraOfficial.com.
He is about to be released from YouTube prison and be able to post again there.
We're going to talk to Mike Barrett today about ancient civilizations and many other fascinating topics.
Mike, thank you for joining me today.
First time that we've been able to have an interview like this.
It's great to have you on.
It's great to be here, Mike.
By the way, I'm in permanent Twitter prison.
I'm not allowed to be on Twitter simply because I called Ted Lieu a warthog to his face.
I've been banned from all those platforms for years, so it could be worse.
By the way, how did you get onto the Starship Enterprise right there?
In the captain's chair almost.
He's with William Shatner.
I've co-starred with Bill Shatner on a couple of shows.
So, you know, I mean, me and Bill, we're tight.
You know, we're very tight, me and Bill.
And he got me on the Enterprise.
So here I am.
That's awesome.
Because he still has some pull with those people.
You know, Shatner is just a cool guy.
I mean, in real life.
Yeah.
I mean, he's a really awesome dude.
I'm glad that you have been able...
I mean, he's an icon.
He's not even a person.
He's actually an icon.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
Okay, well, let's start with a couple of things.
Ancient civilizations, so maybe some big picture questions.
So, number one, a lot of people, for some reason, still think that we are alone in the universe.
What would you say to that?
I think that the strongest proof we have that aliens exist, Mike, is the fact that we exist.
Because if you look, go to YouTube sometime, or go to Brighteon sometime, and look at some of the videos posted from Hubble shots of the Andromeda galaxy, and you have to pass all the way through the Milky Way, and you see these stars, and just as they zoom up and zoom up on these gigapixel pans, you just see...
Billions and billions and billions of stars.
And there's just so many of them.
And then some of them are galaxies with billions of more stars.
And you look at all that and you say to yourself, or at least I do, even if this was an accident, even if human intelligence and our existence is an accident, it had to have happened not only somewhere else, but again, to use that term, that number, billions, billions of other places.
In the universe, even if it was some sort of random accident, it would happen over and over and over again.
So we should be surrounded by friends and possibly enemies and people that are interested in us, for sure.
Yeah, good.
I want to ask you that question.
But first, I mean, there's even evidence of life in our own solar system.
You know, I think it was the 76 Viking mission from NASA proved that there was microbial life in the soil on Mars at that time.
And then just the other day...
I mean, they tell us there's no atmosphere on Mars.
That's the official NASA position.
But then they just sent a helicopter to Mars in the current mission.
Helicopters don't work without atmosphere.
And then yesterday, they were like little tornado twisters, like dust devils on Mars.
Right.
And you've got to have air for that to happen.
Well, yeah, it's actually a very thin atmosphere.
I think it's just a few millibars in comparison to Earth.
But there is absolutely an atmosphere, and it's mostly carbon dioxide.
So that's what makes it unique and different.
Which is actually great because all we have to do really is genetically engineer some plants and lichens and things like that that take in carbon dioxide as food and put out oxygen and we could terraform Mars back into the lush, green, beautiful Earth-like world it was, you know, a few million years ago.
In about 100 years we could do it.
And I don't know why we're not doing it.
Well, so you bring up an interesting point.
So Mars was once more habitable by more advanced life forms.
In your research on this, what happened to Mars?
Well, and I wrote a book called The Choice in 2010, and I followed this up in a couple of other books about the solar system.
My two Mars books, Ancient Aliens on Mars 1 and Ancient Aliens on Mars 2.
And what happened to Mars was that there was a cataclysm of Mars An enormity that we can't even imagine.
What I think Richard Hoagland proved years ago with his theories that I co-wrote with him, paper that I wrote, is that Mars is not a planet.
It was the moon of another very large, massive planet, something that they now call Super Earths.
That they've observed in other solar systems.
And as a moon of that planet that was in a tidal lock relationship, in other words, just like the moon, it always showed the same face to the surface of this parent planet.
And then something happened to that planet, either through natural causes, and there was a couple ways that could go down, or through some sort of unnatural event.
That planet, that parent planet, which is probably five times bigger than the Earth, Exploded.
And it absolutely ripped away more than half the atmosphere of Mars.
It devastated the planet.
There's so many craters on one side of the planet of Mars.
There's so many craters that literally you can't count them all, and you certainly can't name them all.
And there's all these other proofs that show that Mars, while it once was warm and wet, which we can go back and look at the water flow and things like that on it, it just completely destroyed whatever civilization was there, or at least made it so...
You know, so difficult to live there that they eventually moved underground and then obviously left.
And I suspect came here to Earth, to be honest with you.
So, in essence, we are Martians.
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of really interesting factoids that support that.
One of them is that when astronauts go into space, they go into microgravity or zero gravity, in low Earth orbit, that their circadian rhythms go from 24 hours to 24.9 hours.
Now, a day on Mars, guess what?
One rotational period.
It's 24.9 hours.
So it's like our DNA, outside of the influence of Earth's gravity, basically reverts back to a Martian cycle rather than an earthly cycle.
So that indicates that at least some part of who we are came from there.
Well, I've noticed that even here at 1G. I truly often wish there were a 25-hour day or 26-hour day.
I'm always pushing another hour, and it seems like, oh, I'm having to go to sleep too early and then wake up too early both every day.
That's not right.
Mm-mm.
Okay, so then is it called the Cydonia?
Is that the face on Mars?
Cydonia or Cydonia, yeah.
It's named after an area near the island of Crete, I believe.
Okay, so is that, what's your take on that?
Was it built by an ancient civilization or what?
Yeah, how I got started in all this is I started working with a guy named Richard Hoagland, who was famous for doing research on the so-called face on Mars, which again, that same Viking probe that you talked about earlier, took pictures.
There was an orbiter and a lander, and the orbiter took a lot of pictures of possible landing sites, and one of them was an area called Cydonia, which actually, believe it or not, Viking 2 was originally scheduled to land in Cydonia on Right near the face on Mars and these other objects.
There's an object called the DNM Pyramid, which are obviously eroded pyramidal structures.
They're unnatural.
And the face itself was very unnatural.
And so, you know, those pictures revealed what looked to be the remnants of an ancient human-related civilization because the face looks like it used to be a humanoid face.
And then as other missions went by, there was all kinds of skullduggery with NASA. We kind of documented that in our book, Dark Mission, The Secret History of NASA, all the different lies that NASA told over the years about Sedonia.
And the ultimate conclusion is if you look at the high-resolution Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter images, The thing's artificial.
The face is artificial.
The pyramids are artificial.
There's all kinds of structures all around the ground there.
You can see spars and rebar and different structural members and stuff.
Rebar?
Yeah, I mean, literally bars and crossbeams and things that are sticking up on the face and on the pyramids that are clearly architectural and not part of any natural erosion process.
Wow.
Wow.
You know, what I really enjoy about talking with you, by the way, is you follow the evidence wherever you go.
You kind of remind me of sort of the next generation of Jim Mars.
And, you know, Jim was a good friend of mine.
I really regret his passing.
But he was meticulous about his research, you know, a prolific writer.
But he would spend a year writing a book.
I don't know how he would do it.
But it was just thousands of citations in his books on the JFK assassination and also the rise of the Fourth Reich.
I mean, he talked about Operation Paperclip, where NASA brought in former Nazis, gave them new identities, and they built America's Apollo space program.
And to this day, most Americans have no clue that that happened.
Yeah, and I hate to get competitive here, but actually me and Hoagland were the ones that first started writing about that.
But the interesting thing is, when you get into NASA, it was dominated by secret societies.
Everybody who was anybody at NASA was either a Freemason, a Scottish Rite Freemason, A Nazi, somebody who had come over on Operation Paperclip, or what we call the magicians, these guys that were followers of Aleister Crowley, out at JPL. And it was actually recently a TV series, Strange Angel, I think it was, on CBS, All Access, that kind of tried to cover that but did a little bit of a poor job.
It wasn't the greatest show ever.
Anyway, so all this stuff is true, and they all practice these different rituals.
I mean, most people don't know that the head of the Mercury, Apollo, and Gemini programs, Kenneth Kleinconnect, was the son of the head of the Scottish Rite Freemasons.
They don't know that Kurt DeBuss, who ran the manned spacecraft center down at Cape Canaveral, We're good to go.
Performed a Masonic ceremony in the lunar module before he and Neil Armstrong went out on the first moonwalk.
So these things are all true.
They're all verifiable.
It's just people don't want to accept them.
They don't want to face the consequences of the reality of it.
Yeah, so it's almost like they were having Nazis claim the moon.
Yeah, well, I think the first, I think Apollo 11 was basically to consecrate the moon as a Masonic temple.
That's why Buzz performed the ritual ceremony.
He took a Masonic ceremonial apron with him.
And let me ask you this.
Why would you take a ceremonial apron with you to the moon if you didn't perform a Masonic ceremony?
And Buzz claims it's like a Catholic communion ceremony that he performed.
But trust me, he had that Masonic apron on that he brought with him.
And when he came back, he gave it back to the The guys at the temple, the house of the temple there in D.C. And then the other missions were, I think, technology salvaging operations.
They knew that there was ancient alien technology on the moon, so they went there to retrieve that.
But along the way, they continued to follow these rituals of landing with the belt stars of Orion, which represents Osiris, 33 degrees above the landing site.
And again, it's this pattern of honoring these ancient Egyptian gods.
And when you look at Crowley and you look at the Nazis, the SS... And you look at the Freemasons, they all worshipped Isis, Osiris, and Horus.
They're all their gods, who were extraterrestrial gods, gods with a small g, that came to Earth thousands of years ago.
So, you know, it's a pattern that you just can't deny.
So it also seems self-evident to me that, you know, the moon is the high ground over Earth.
Earth is in a gravity well.
The moon has very high strategic value, and the dark side of the moon in particular is a fantastic observational platform to monitor everything from, you know, gravity fluctuations in the solar system as well as other stars.
Everything.
What do you think is on the dark side of the moon?
I mean, China had a flyby there a couple years ago, I think, didn't they?
Yeah, they actually landed there because they were able to get a data relay satellite in the right orbit to relay back the communications.
And so they landed there.
You know, again, keep in mind, it's not the dark side, it's the back side because of the way the moon rotates in that sequence relationship.
Yeah, you're right, Jeff.
At one point during the month, pretty much the entire moon is lit up.
But the dark side of the moon just sounds so much cooler and not simply because of the picture.
Right.
It's the other side of the moon.
It's the other side, right.
And I like that better than the back side.
I'm going to start using the other side.
Back side could be anything.
So, you know, what's back there is a lot of this stuff A lot of this wreckage and these ruins that Hoagland had talked about first and other people did and I've done work on, they're very well preserved on that side of the moon for whatever reason.
And we have a lot of visual information from the photographs the astronauts took of pyramids and structures there that are just truly amazing when you look at them.
They're really something else.
Why do people, some people, think that we never went to the moon?
I mean, it's a very common, you know, alternative theory to claim that it's all fake.
And it even morphs into, I think, the whole flat earth movement, which pretends that there are no satellites and there's no outer space, I suppose.
Sort of, where do you think all that's coming from?
Because they're stupid.
Look, I mean, I'm an engineer, okay?
I'm an aerospace engineer.
That's what I did, you know, for most of my life.
And so I know how to think things through.
And most, I'm sorry, our education system is crap today.
It's just, it's not good at all.
That's true.
And people do not know how to think critically and they don't ask the right questions.
And they see some video on YouTube and they believe it.
And the other thing you have to remember too, Mike, is that The theory that we never went to the moon, the rumor, was actually started at NASA by NASA. And the reason why is because what they're really doing is they were covering up what they really went to the moon for, which is to investigate these alien structures on the moon, on the moon itself.
So what happens is that people see all these things that don't make sense.
This secrecy.
And they assume the secrecy is because, oh, we couldn't go.
But in reality, that's not what the secrecy is all about.
What the secrecy is all about is covering up what it was NASA really went to the moon for, which is to recover ancient alien technology.
So what you have is you have a lot of people that don't know, they don't understand science and physics and technology, and they're influenced by these really dumb videos, which are put out by more people who don't know science and technology and so forth.
And engineering.
And they end up with this completely false belief system.
I mean, people like, I don't want to mention any names, Jay Widener, who put out this idiocy that Stanley Kubrick filmed the moon landings.
And it's ridiculous.
There's not one single shred of evidence to support that conclusion.
And, you know, I did a show last year for Science Channel called Truth Behind the Moon Landing, where I had to play the crazy conspiracy guy.
And I had to spew all this stuff out, and I only agreed to do it, well, first of all, because they paid me, secondly, because they put me on TV. But I only agreed to do it because I knew we would get to the truth at the end, that I knew what the answers were to all the questions that were being raised.
So it's really important, I think, that it's just people's lack of education and lack of scientific understanding.
I mean, none of the claims that we fake the moon landings, not one of them holds up against the slightest bit of scrutiny when you really dig into it.
Yeah, I know.
I've looked at those, too.
And, you know, I'm a published scientist as well.
I run a laboratory.
We do organic chemistry, mass spectrometry, the whole deal.
I run into the same thing that you just mentioned, even especially with this whole COVID coronavirus situation.
I found that even prominent alternative media people...
Have no ability to process statistical data or epidemiological data or to understand basics of math.
And what I find strange, these are the same people who make fun of leftists for saying that, you know, transgenderism.
They say, ah, you can't say a biological man can be a woman.
That's crazy.
And then they say something just as crazy and stupid.
I know.
I know.
It's like the radiation thing.
Oh, well, the Van Allen radiation belts would have killed them.
Well, you know, radiation is a question of two things.
It's a matter of intensity and exposure.
And first of all, the exposure was very short.
They traveled at almost 17,000 miles an hour through the belts.
They knew that there were areas where there was weaker radiation, and so they traveled through those at a high rate of speed.
They were never in the belts for more than an hour, and they had plenty of shielding.
In the lunar module.
I mean, we went through and looked at all that stuff for the show, and basically, you know, you've got alpha particles, you've got beta particles, and you can stop 90% of alpha particles with a sheet of plexiglass.
You don't even need aluminum or any of the other things that the lunar module was made out of.
So it's just crazy, and people just do not have a basic understanding of science and physics and engineering, and that's why they believe this stuff.
And it's this really...
It's really hard because whenever I try to argue against this and say, no, don't look at the fake conspiracy, look at the real conspiracy, which is what did they find there, I can't get any headway because people just are so emotionally attached, they can't give up their ideas.
You know, that is so true, and that's something we really have in common.
I was invited at one point, I think, to debate some flat-earth people, and I was like, what's the point?
Because you disavow logic and reason to begin with, So it doesn't matter what the arguments are.
I mean, just last week, just last week, this last weekend, I went up to Mount Rainier here near the Seattle area.
And it's like, okay, if the earth is flat, I should be able to see Mount Rainier 100% of the time on my way up there, right?
It should be towering over everything because it's 14,000 feet high.
So it's just crazy.
It's like, how do you even deal with that mentality?
Yeah, I don't know.
But let's move on.
The next question is, recently the United States Navy released a film showing airborne aircraft of some origin that obviously were making maneuvers that don't look like they were of human engineering origin.
And then they admitted, or somebody admitted, you probably know better than I do, that these are non-Earth origin craft of some kind.
Why would the government be doing this right now?
What's behind all that?
Well, okay, first of all, my stance is that all those objects are drones.
All of those are human-made drones.
One of them, I think, is something similar to an aircraft I worked on in the early 2000s called the X-47B, which is kind of a batwing-shaped stealth drone that's piloted remotely.
And so that's the interesting question, is not...
To me, these are clearly not UFOs.
They're not alien spacecraft.
But the question is, why does the government or certain members within the government, why do they want us to believe they are?
And that's, to me, again, the second level question, a really interesting question.
And the answer is that there's definitely some people inside who have a political agenda to push their version of disclosure.
And I think that that's what this is all about.
And again, you just look at who they're aligned with, the Tom DeLonge group and all the CIA people involved with that.
And it's like, wow, who is pushing this and what's the answer?
And to me, when I look at it, I think they want to have control over the disclosure narrative.
That's what this is about, is asserting control.
Because these things, to me, none of those things show anything that remotely resembles an extraterrestrial technology or even a very advanced technology.
It's pretty conventional stuff, in my opinion.
Okay, that's interesting.
Well, I mean, look at the Tic Tac video.
It's just a blob on the screen, right?
And again, infrared cameras are very low visual resolution, so you don't really know what you're looking at.
It could be the afterburner of a jet that's flying away from you.
But what happens is they're using this equipment to try to target this thing.
And then supposedly, oh, all of a sudden it just streaks off.
You know, we all see it just streak off the camera and disappear.
Well, if you watch, there's a zoom setting on the camera.
And all that really happens is they zoom up on this thing and they lose the acquisition of the target.
And it didn't actually move.
It was just something either hovering or moving away from the aircraft.
And they just zoomed past it.
And then the interesting thing about it that I noticed right away on the DeLong video is as soon as they zoomed past it, they cut the video off.
In other words, what happened two seconds later is they zoomed back out, reacquired whatever the target was.
So I think that there's somebody in the Pentagon who's pushing this as alien spacecraft when in fact that's not what they are.
They're probably just experimental defense department aircraft.
Yeah, I've seen that before, too.
I've seen conspiracy videos showing objects moving in a straight line in sort of low-Earth orbit, and then suddenly they appear to change their angle, but it was just a zoom change, is all that was happening.
It was so obvious, just like you said.
I've seen other videos from a space shuttle and a space station that are pretty impressive, but yeah, you're right.
It's the same kind of thing, and people just don't pay attention.
I tried to talk about this at an AlienCon, and I got a lot of nasty feedback when I wasn't on the team.
Well, the truth is, to be a good conspiracy analyst, you actually have to be a skeptic.
You do.
And the people who just fall for everything and believe everything.
I remember talking to a guy six months ago.
He was like, the Earth is flat and aliens are here.
And...
I was like, well, where do they come from, man?
If the Earth is flat?
I mean, they believe contradictory theories themselves.
If the Earth is flat, can there be a hollow Earth, too?
I don't know.
How do we have a hollow Earth if the Earth is flat?
I don't know.
What's on the bottom of the hollow Earth?
It's flat, but deep.
Yeah, what's on the bottom of the flat Earth, too?
I want to know that.
It's actually a cylinder, and we're just on one end.
There we go.
Okay.
So, it's, you know, yeah, they believe contradictory things, and not just completely trash the audience, but, I mean, you have to ask questions, and how I got to be a conspiracy theorist is I kept asking questions, like TWA 800 is what got me started, and I kept asking questions, and I knew as an aerospace engineer, I knew when the government, the FBI, James Kallstrom, when they were getting up there and lying, and I'm like, that's a lie.
He's got to know that's a lie.
He can't not know that's a lie.
That's what made me a conspiracy theorist, so...
Well, no, I mean, the official explanation is nonsense.
Oh, the fuel leaked down in a perfect line that would trace the apparent path of a missile?
Wow, that's amazing.
How does that happen?
They don't have an ignition source.
Other than a missile, what ignition source could there be?
And again, there's a million other things that show it was a missile, absolutely a missile.
Probably one of ours fired by accident, and it was covered up because the Clinton administration didn't want to look incompetent in an election year, even though they were only going against Bob Dole.
Yeah.
Right.
Let's talk about technology that exists in other civilizations, in your view.
I'm of the belief, I don't know if you agree with this or not, it's okay if you don't, that faster-than-light travel is probably a very common technology in other civilizations, but it uses a tremendous amount of energy to achieve that, and it sends out ripples in You know, the fabric of space-time, gravity waves essentially is what physics calls them, that are detectable, just like a boat in a lake sends out ripples.
If you move faster than light, you're going to send out ripples.
And then if you look throughout Earth's history, there are many times in which labs have detected, you know, perturbations in the gravitational fields that are penetrating Earth and so on.
What do you think about FTL technology?
Well, that's pretty fascinating stuff.
I think personally that those waves are actually longitudinal waves traveling through higher spatial dimensions, like the fifth, the sixth, the ninth, and that they reverberate and have a physical effect down here in the third dimension.
So that's one of the things I wrote about in The Choice, my second book.
Is this idea of hyperdimensional physics, which, by the way, came from the mathematical relationships between the monuments on Mars.
That's where the idea came from, that, hey, guess what?
Everything in this universe is actually information or energy coming from a higher plane of existence, coming from the fifth or sixth or seventh or whatever dimension.
And I really think that these effects that you're seeing are more coordinated with, again, things like forces like angular momentum and probably torsion, which is something that Einstein studied but dropped because it didn't fit in with the existing scientific thought of the day, which was actually all based on Maxwell's equations, which it turns out were basically stripped of their higher dimensional aspect by heavyside back in the day.
So we've been operating on a...
On a very limited model of physics for over 100 years, and that's what's keeping us from figuring out FTL. But I do think definitely we've had experiments in these technologies.
I wrote another book in 2016 called Hidden Agenda, which was about secret space programs and do we already have flying saucer technology, and does that imply faster-than-light capability?
And I went through all the different...
Technologies and researches that have been done by people in Germany and guys like T-Towns and Brown who found that if you electrified a disc, that guess what?
The electrical charge, the positive and negative...
Everything charges went to opposite ends of the disk and it moved in the direction of the positive pole and against all forces of nature.
Now we have the EM drive experiments coming out that have been really interesting.
So this stuff, all of it you have to do is scale it up energetically and you can have...
I don't see any reason why you can't travel faster than light.
And I'm not sure I believe that things get more massive the closer you get to the speed of light either.
I don't think there's a lot of proof of that.
So we have all this information out there.
And the key thing is, how do you generate the power?
And again, it comes from spin energy, angular momentum.
That's what the mathematics of the monuments of Mars taught us.
And so, yeah, I'm completely on board with faster than light travel.
And I suspect we've had that technology since...
About 1957 or 58, to be honest with you.
Wow.
Well, yeah, and just to provide context for the audience, you know, the reason FTL travel doesn't violate the laws of physics is it's bending space time.
So you're not actually technically approaching the speed of light yourself.
And that's why you don't feel, if you're in a craft, That's suddenly thrust through a warping of space-time.
You don't feel the acceleration.
For the same reason that if you step off the top of a building, you don't feel the acceleration of gravity.
You feel weightless.
It's zero-G. Because you've stepped into the gravity well of Earth, which is a distortion of space-time.
Every planet distorts space-time.
And, you know, the Moon, from the Moon's point of view, it's traveling in a straight line, even as it orbits the Earth.
It's just that the Earth has bent space into...
Essentially, a circle around the Earth.
Yeah, well, and, you know, Brown's conclusion was that, yeah, he was creating a gravity wave, in essence, or basically a bubble around the disk object, and that the electrification was distorting the gravitational field so that you had a trough in the front and a hill in the back, and so you're kind of surfing down a wave in a direction, but from your perspective inside the spacecraft or the disk, you would not really notice anything.
You wouldn't get any physical sensation of movement because you're not using thrust.
Exactly.
Like you said, you're distorting the space-time continuum itself, and that's what warp drive is.
It's basically Star Trek's warp drive.
You've nailed it.
Exactly right.
And this is why even biological beings, technically, if they're inside spacecraft that have this technology, they could make 50G maneuvers without being splattered against the wall because you don't feel the 50Gs.
Right.
Well, you look at the STS-48 video from Space Shuttle, which is really extraordinary, and you see an object, you know, pop up over the horizon, travel along, a flash goes off, they fire something at it, and it just goes zing, zing, about a 45-degree turn at something like 200,000 miles an hour, and it would be the equivalent of dropping a 10-story building on top of you.
But in reality, the people inside experience nothing.
nothing.
And I'm sure that this was some sort of test of a weapon system that we've been working on here on Earth.
You know, if you look at the speed of transportation, it goes from basically a man walking or running, which is about 20 miles an hour at max, to a horse and buggy, to steam train, the automobile, the propeller engine aircraft, the jet engine aircraft, and then the rocket.
And it's a technology curve that goes straight up till about 1960.
and then it just flatlines.
Now, you know this.
There's no such thing as a technology curve that flatlines.
If it goes up, it keeps going up.
And what it says is, we should have had a breakthrough about 1960.
If you go back and look at all this research that was being done into anti-gravity effects and field propulsion and things like that, it was all out there in public.
It was all being published by the major journals.
And then they cut it off, interestingly, right after T. Townsend Brown made his presentation to the Navy for how to build an American flying saucer, which is what he actually called it.
And all of a sudden, everything goes dark.
They take the technology and we're still here 70 years later with nothing but chemical rockets.
We're still, you know, using the SpaceX crap to get ourselves into space.
And I think privately behind the scenes, the Defense Department or the secret government has had flying saucer technology for at least 50 years, probably longer.
What do you think is the agenda behind depriving the public of all of this exotic technology and the knowledge, and frankly, the abundance that could go with it if this knowledge were set free to be used in free market systems and worked on by other creative individuals?
Imagine where we could be in our world in terms of free energy, for example, or travel, like you said, reaching out to other planets to colonize them without using chemical rockets, which is Basically the worst technology in the world, other than lead-acid batteries, which is the worst technology in the world.
It's slow and dangerous, for sure, rocket travel, yeah.
Right.
So why?
Well, because, first of all...
I mean, why are they keeping it from us?
I'm sorry.
They don't care about us, first of all.
We're, as Kissinger likes to say, we're useless eaters.
So until we can get...
These people who are in charge, until we can get them out of positions of power, which I'm hoping will be happening over the next year or two, we're not going to have any of these technologies come to light.
But there's other technologies out there too, of course, like medical technologies.
But the answer is, we have a petroleum-based economy.
And I think that on the people who are on the good side, first of all, if you take away that petroleum-based economy, what do you replace it with?
You have to have some sort of economic system.
And there's a lot of concern amongst people, I believe in the elites or the higher-ups, That if we give people everything, they will do nothing.
They will sit around and smoke weed all day and do nothing with their lives.
Well, we're doing that already.
Those are the COVID lockdowns and everybody's getting paid to sit at home and smoke weed and then protest at night and burn down America's cities.
So that's been proven.
Right.
And I think that that was the concern, that you have to have an economic system where you have to strive for more.
And so I think that's a big reason why it's been suppressed.
But I do, I am very optimistic that this current president is going to be releasing some of these cures and technologies and things.
I hear a lot about this medbed technology, that it's a very real thing where people are going to go back to living their normal life cycles, which is 500 to 1,000 years, not 100 or 120 years.
So that's something to look forward to.
But these things have been suppressed, I think, to keep us as slaves, number one, and to keep us productive, always striving for something more, which, to a certain extent, I agree with.
I know a lot of people that would just sit around and watch Netflix all day.
Yeah, that's for sure.
And by the way, on...
On living longer, you know, I'm not sure that I want that technology in the hands of people like Henry Kissinger, George Soros, Hillary Clinton.
Right.
Haven't they lived long enough?
I mean, haven't enough children already been sacrificed so these people can have extended, you know, adenochrome lifespans, or adrenochrome, that's what it's called.
Something is, you know, actually death is kind of the great equalizer, if you think about it, like I mean, look at Hillary Clinton four years ago.
She was very sick, very ill.
She collapsed at the 9-11 ceremony.
There are people who say she died right there and has been replaced by a body double.
It's all possible.
But how does she make it?
I mean, she was having seizures.
She had a seizure during one of the debates.
There's one point where she has one of these weird moments and Trump looks at someone in the audience and he mouths the word seizure to his buddy.
And, you know, so how has she made it another four years?
And look at Joe Biden.
So it's weird how I know this technology exists, but I think it's very restricted.
I hear on the medical bed thing, I hear there's only two.
Two in the country right now, two in the United States, and they're very well protected and guarded.
So maybe a lot of these people, these bad people, don't have access to them.
Maybe the good guys have kept them from these things, and they're having to use other methods, these horrible things like adrenochrome and organ harvesting and all this stuff that we know is true that's out there.
Yeah, well, I thought that Hillary Clinton's brain was replaced with Joe Biden's brain, and then Joe Biden's brain was replaced with a moose.
Something like that.
Hey, you've got Elon Musk with the Neuralink implants into pigs' brains.
Maybe the first person to have that test was Joe Biden, and he's receiving commands from Elon Musk, but they're kind of lost in translation.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, the two brain surgeries he had were not for aneurysms.
They were to try to fix his sexual deviancy.
That was what those operations were for.
Oh, the sniffing centers of the brain, yes.
Yeah, it's led to his vast, very quick mental decline.
Well, it's kind of like a partial lobotomy gone bad, I guess.
Yeah, pretty much.
All right, let's get back to aliens here.
There are two theories out there right now among people who believe that we are not alone talking about disclosure or first contact.
One group of people believe that aliens are going to be super friendly and they're here to love us and protect us and save us.
Sounds like Al Gore's campaign slogan, frankly.
Then another group believes that aliens are more likely to be, you know, aggressive, combative, militaristic, because that's who colonizes the universe.
I mean, look at the history of Earth.
What do you believe between those two?
I think there's clearly both.
I think both are, you know, aliens are just like people.
There's good ones and there's bad ones.
And I think we've been in contact with some good ones and I think we've been in contact with some bad ones.
And, you know, the thing to keep in mind that I've always told people is, look, you cannot say aliens are demons and you cannot say aliens are our friends and they're here to help us.
I was on a TV show called Uncovering Aliens a few years ago for Animal Planet.
We had Stephen Jones Who was a contactee who said, oh, aliens are our friends.
They're here to help us in our next stage of our evolution.
And then we had Daryl Sims who was like, oh, alien is evil.
He must be killed and was chopped up like sushi, you know?
And they were great.
They were diametrically opposed, but why couldn't both things be true?
I was always like, guys, why can't both things be true?
But the important thing to keep in mind is this, as far as I'm concerned.
Aliens are not here to help us.
They're here for their own reasons.
They have their own agenda.
We have to be very wary of dealing with any outside civilizations because we can't believe that they're here to help.
Hi, I'm alien, I'm here to help.
That's the only thing worse than, hi, I'm from the government, I'm here to help, is hi, I'm an alien, I'm here to help.
So we have to keep in mind that these things, these people have their own agenda.
And that agenda is not necessarily in our best interest.
So I think when we deal with them, we need to deal with them from the basis of not only that, but B, they need something from us.
We're not on their planet trying to interfere in their affairs.
So what is it that they need from us?
We are superior to them in some way.
Otherwise, they wouldn't be here and be so fascinated by us.
So do you believe that humanity has been, let's say, infiltrated by non-Earth beings?
And let me finish the question.
I know I'm going down the rabbit hole here with you, but I tried to listen to an audiobook by Zachariah Sitchin, and it turned out to be this genealogy tree that was more boring than the Old Testament.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I couldn't get through it.
I'm like, what is this, a family tree discovery session?
So what do you think is happening?
Well, first of all, interestingly, Sitchin, I'm just going to tell you, I heard from people who knew him very well that he didn't really translate a whole lot of Sumerian cuneiform tablets, that he actually supposedly channeled that information from the Anunnaki themselves.
So somebody inside the Anunnaki, I heard it was Enki who was supposedly still alive and on Earth trying to fix everything he screwed up when he was down here alive.
But I think what we're dealing with is...
These people, I have a friend, I had a great friend named Robert O'Dean.
I don't know if you know who Bob Dean was, but he's a very famous guy in the UFO community for years.
He passed away a few years ago.
And he was a command sergeant major at the NATO headquarters in Brussels.
And one night at 2 a.m.
while they were all watching to see if the Russians were going to cross the border, you know, in 1966, we're going to come across to start World War III. His commanding officer said, hey Dean, you look bored.
He threw him a set of keys and said, go over there to that safe and open it up.
He went over and he opened it up and there was a book that was stacked like this high, like two feet tall.
And Dean opens it up and it's the complete history of human interactions with extraterrestrials as told by the U.S. government.
And he went through the whole thing and it talked about all these ancient species and all these different groups that were here and the Anunnaki, although they were called something else at that time.
And so one time during a lecture, you know, he would give it.
I was hanging out with him at a conference.
And I said, Bob, so are there extraterrestrials, you know, in the U.S. government?
And he talked about how they manipulate their genes, how they, you know, look just like us now, but they live much longer and stay much younger.
And then they, you know, create a new identity and become that person.
But he said, Mike, extraterrestrials aren't in the government.
Extraterrestrials are the government.
And I believe what he meant by that is that they have infiltrated at every level in the ruling classes, both the good ones and the bad ones.
And hopefully the good ones have a bit more power now than the bad ones do.
So does that mean, I mean, we know politically there is a deep state.
There's this permanent government bureaucracy that tries to ruin our lives and rule over us.
And many people now believe because of the COVID-19 lockdowns and the coming vaccines, which are skipping phase three trials.
Oh, who needs safety when you're vaccinating billions of people?
Many people believe that the governments of the world are now on a depopulation agenda.
I actually believe that myself.
That they're trying to now eliminate many humans, billions of humans.
Is that a viable theory if, in fact, many of these government people are non-Earth origin or non-human?
Yeah, I mean, to my mind, if that's their agenda, they're doing a really bad job of it because there's more people born all the time and the population keeps increasing.
Well, fucking is popular, you know.
Yes, it fucking is popular.
There's a very interesting video out there on YouTube.
I forget, it was this, I think a Swedish professor who basically shows that at the current rate, death rates, people still dying in their 80s, assuming we don't have med beds, that the population of the planet is going to get to 11 billion, which is eminently sustainable, and then it's going to stop and it's not going to get any higher than that because people die off and people get born at certain rates and So on.
And, yeah, but I do believe, seriously, that is an agenda.
That's an evil, dark agenda from the people who are losing their grip on power.
And, you know, is that coming from a reptilian alien perspective?
Is that coming from some other dark alien entities that want to cause pain and suffering?
Yeah, but to my mind, we've fended them off so far.
And, you know, there are people who believe in diverging timelines.
And all I can say, Mike, is that we...
We seem to be in the timeline that survives all these different cataclysms, because I'm sure there's, in their heart of hearts, a lot of them would like to kill a lot of us, because it's better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven.
But I don't think they're going to succeed, and I don't think that they've been very successful so far, because look at us.
We just keep...
Reproducing on a regular basis.
Yeah.
Well, is Mark Zuckerberg the first successful human-cyborg experiment?
Yeah, there's something wrong with him.
He's either an alien or he is a robot or he's something.
I mean, look, he's not a normal human by any stretch of the imagination.
That's for sure.
Alright, let's move into a question.
I haven't pre-asked you any of this stuff, so I have no idea where you stand on these things, but there's a lot of talk about Planet X and Nibiru, and a lot of people are concerned right now about Planet X swinging back around and crossing through Earth's orbital plane, not impacting Earth, but having gravitational effects and so on, and asteroids and volcanoes and earthquakes and so on.
Do you give any credence to that theory?
Some.
I researched this really extensively for the choice.
And, you know, was there a history of pole shifts?
And what I found is that if you look at the outer solar system, it does appear that something came through here a long time ago.
It knocked Uranus over on its side, so it rotates horizontally rather than around a vertical axis.
There's a lot of weirdness out there.
And if you believe the whole Sitch and Nibiru thing, then...
You know, every 3,600 years this happens, but there's not a lot of geological record that supports that.
Pole shifts and that kind of thing.
I think he was working within the physics that were understood at that time in 1976 when he wrote The Twelfth Planet.
I don't think it's really correct.
What I do think it's...
As I went back, I looked at it.
I looked at Nibiru.
And I thought, okay, even if it does come through, I think most of the time it passes by in the outer solar system.
I think the deepest it probably gets, from what I can tell, is in between the orbit of Jupiter and Mars.
And certainly, if it came on a close pass in front of Jupiter, it could perturb objects in the asteroid belts and cause a bombardment of asteroids on the inner solar system towards Earth.
So that could be an issue.
But I think the idea that it's going to come and the poles are going to align and we're going to flip over that stuff, I don't have any support for that, that I could find in the scientific record if what we're looking at is true.
But I do think it is a little bit of a danger that if Nibiru does come through to the inner solar system, and by that I mean inside the orbit of Jupiter, it could cause asteroids and stuff.
But again, I just don't see any proof that it's out there from what's available publicly.
I remember hearing, maybe it was Sitchin or other people on radio interviews, even 15, maybe 20 years ago, talking about upcoming dates where the planets would align.
And that, oh, that would unleash total hell on Earth and massive earthquakes and the continents would move.
And I'm thinking, you know, those planets are pretty far away, and I'm familiar with the inverse square, you know, distance rule for gravitational effects, and I don't think that Jupiter is going to pull Earth apart from that distance.
You know what I mean?
Well, not from gravity.
And the thing is, look, there's the four acknowledged forces in the universe, right?
Gravity, electromagnetism, the strong and weak nuclear forces.
But there is a fifth one out there called dynamic torsion, which a guy named Kozyrev out of Russia, I've got to give David Wilcox some credit for finding this guy, did a lot of research on, and Einstein dabbled into, but he was looking at static rather than dynamic torsion.
And I found that that seems to exist experimentally.
And there are definitely effects caused by the planets in certain alignments.
And basically, it has to do with the alignments in astrology.
Like a trine is a positive alignment.
It has positive effects, physical and emotional, on the consciousness of human beings.
And that's kind of what the choice was all about.
But in reality, what we're dealing with then is that what that means is that the planets with the biggest momentum, the biggest spin energy are the ones that have the biggest influence.
So yes, the gas giants do have a tremendous influence through the hyperdimensional ether and having interfering waves at this higher level that has a sort of pull-down or push-down effect.
On 3D reality.
And that's a big part, Mike, of what's going on with the revolutionary fervor that's going on around the world.
I mean, I predicted this in The Choice.
I said we're going to have all kinds of chaos and our hierarchies and structures are going to be challenged like never before, like we haven't seen for hundreds if not thousands of years.
And gosh, everything's playing out exactly the way I expected it to.
So there is an effect, but it doesn't really necessarily imply a pole shift.
And even if it did, Nobody can tell you what that alignment has to be, except maybe Hoagland and Torrance theory, which is that if there's a gigantic super planet X, not Nibiru, but something else, and it lines up with the galactic center and the Earth and the Sun on December 21st, 2012, you might have had some physical effects.
It's entirely possible, but what seems to have happened is instead you opened up this period where the consciousness of the human race is changing.
To this, what I call the global sovereignty movement, which is where everybody wants sovereignty over their own personal choices and how to live, and that means the end of globalist governance.
So I see a thought process effect rather than a physical effect.
I see an astro-psychological impact effect.
Yeah, well, I mean, John Nelson, just to do it quickly, John Nelson was this RCA researcher who in the 50s was said, they basically went to him and said, why are shortwave radio signals so crappy at some times of the year and so much better at others?
And he found out, hey, if you look at the planets, the gas giant planets with the most angular momentum, the most spin energy, when they're in alignments that correspond to positive aspects in astrology, trines and what's the other one?
Well, not squares because those are negative.
And oppositions, you know, when they were in negative configurations, the sun got really excited and a lot of sunspots and bad radio.
When it was in a positive configuration like a trine, everything was great.
Everything was hunky-dory.
The sun was quiet.
And again, what is every thought you've ever had in your head, Mike?
It's an electromagnetic wave.
So what these were influencing was a physical influence on electromagnetic waves.
And so clearly what you're looking at is that that's the most prominent effect that it has on people.
The last time we were in this series of alignments we've been in from 2012 to 2024 or 2025 was the American Revolution and the French Revolution.
So guess what?
We're going through it all again.
Okay, very interesting.
Absolutely.
The cyclical nature of human psychology, the rise and fall of civilizations.
I want to ask you about something that's been bothering me for a couple of years.
It's called the Allais effect.
A-L-L-A-I-S. Allais effect, yeah.
Jacques Allais.
Jacques Allais, right.
And I stumbled across this when I was looking at how early scientists were using large pendulums to prove the rotation of the Earth.
And, you know, people are familiar with that, you know, probably been to museums where there's a large pendulum and then the pendulum moves forward with the rotation of the Earth precesses, right?
Exactly.
And, by the way, the degree of that depends on your latitude and distance from the equator as well.
So they were able to show that scientifically.
But it was observed and repeated through multiple experiments that during an eclipse, and I don't recall if this is a solar eclipse or a lunar eclipse, but during some kind of eclipse, it's solar.
The first one, yeah.
Okay, that the pendulum...
It misbehaves and doesn't follow the rules of rotation.
It started rotating rapidly backwards.
It went against the rotation of the earth, which defies every alleged law of physics that we've ever known.
Right, so you're the first person that I've asked that even knows about this.
So that's awesome.
You even know how to pronounce the word, which is more than I do.
So how do we explain this?
Because it's been observed and repeated multiple times.
Right.
Well, I've got to send you a copy of The Choice.
You send me your email address and it will come in the mail pretty quick.
Because I wrote about this in there as well.
And again, basically this guy named Jacques L.A., who was a Nobel Prize winning economist, also liked to dabble in physics.
And he did this experiment in the 1950s and repeated it.
multiple times where during eclipses or even partial eclipses you would have this amazing effect where the eclipse itself, the alignment of the planets, influenced the movement of the physical pendulum.
So 3D physics being influenced by an alignment effect that modern science tells you has no effect because there's no gravity involved.
So it wasn't a gravitational effect.
It was, again, I think a hyperdimensional effect having to do with the alignments.
And this, along with John Nelson's work, are the things that indicated that, yeah, these alignments do matter.
These planetary configurations do matter.
And there's a secret hidden physics at work here.
In our universe, it has to do with higher dimensions and where energy comes from and how you access it, which is by spinning something massive.
And this guy absolutely proved it over and over again.
And then NASA in 1999, a guy named Dr.
David Noever ran a bunch of experiments from a solar eclipse that was taking place in Europe that year, and they ran all these experiments.
Everybody sent their data in from all over the world, and he quit NASA, took the data, and ran away, and nobody knows.
Nobody knows what he'd ever do with it.
And, by the way, started his own new energy company right after that.
So, you know, again, it's what Allais was on to, basically what he knew was true, what he observed was true.
Then there's a completely different way to create propulsion systems and create energy.
And it's fascinating that the guy who brought this information to the U.S. was Werner von Braun in the late 1950s.
Because guess what?
Von Braun had launched the Explorer satellite and it ended up in a far higher orbit than it could possibly have ended up in.
And like von Braun couldn't understand why, because he knew exactly how much energy there was in those rockets, and he knew exactly what the gravitational pull of the Earth was, and the wind, and everything else.
And so he began to understand that there was something important about Explorer that was connected to what Alley had experimented with.
He's the guy who got Alley's papers published in English.
And it ended up turning out that there was a rotational, a big object rotating.
Third stage of the Explorer rotated because it was a solid rocket booster, which were very inconsistent, and that was the way they averaged out the thrust of the third stage.
And eventually von Braun figured out that rotation added energy into a system, into some sort of energetic system.
And it sort of played itself out.
There's a whole story in the book that I go on about How we couldn't even hit the moon at first.
We kept missing the moon and couldn't figure out why.
And then one time, one of the rangers had a power failure and all the spinning gyros shut down and boom, for the first time, we hit the moon.
And that's when Von Braun figured out, oh, now we know how to get to the moon.
So it's fascinating because Alley's Observations ultimately led to us being able to even navigate and get to the moon because there was a secret physics that still is mostly hidden that is required to understand before you can navigate to the moon and back.
I like the term secret physics.
Doesn't this also lend credence to, for example, ancient Aztec rituals that took place during solar eclipses when mysterious things would happen?
And possibly they were able to erect very heavy large structures during this time window when gravity didn't act like it normally did or objects were impacted by other forces, as you say.
Yeah, and again, it's not gravity.
It does affect gravity, but to a minimal extent, it's more about electromagnetic fields, and they were able to do things with these energies that they couldn't normally do.
So yeah, I mean, alignments.
I mean, people who pray and meditate and all that stuff, if you can do it during an eclipse, theoretically, everything you're looking for, everything you're focused on should be drastically amplified during an eclipse, especially if you're in the path of that eclipse.
Yeah.
I mean, you can look at the changes in our culture, and you can basically just align them through eclipses.
So people in the ancient times knew that these events had a dramatic effect on the future, on their destiny.
They didn't really necessarily understand why, but we're just starting to figure that out now.
Okay.
Well, I can't believe it, but we're coming up on an hour already.
I've just got a couple more questions for you, if you don't mind.
This is already a fascinating conversation.
I can't wait to see the comments from readers on this.
The first one will be like, the Earth is flat, man.
What are you talking about?
The Earth is flat.
We never went to the moon.
Kubrick filmed it all in the studio.
There is no outer space.
So based on this psychological influence factor that you've talked about, what's coming next for us?
For Earth?
Dramatic governmental changes is one thing.
So again, all of what it shows, if you connect the astrology and the astronomy, and I did it all back in The Choice, so I don't want to do it again because it'll bore the crap out of your viewers.
But dramatic changes in all of our hierarchies and structures, that means our governmental structures and our monetary structures.
Those are the things that drive us the most.
So what we're going to have is a new monetary system.
I used to think, oh, there's going to be changes.
Now I think it's going to be almost a completely new system.
Might be the quantum financial system, or at least that's part of it.
But there's going to be dramatic changes and dramatic changes in how we govern.
And I mean, I think the election of Trump is the first symptom of that.
You know, I mean, that and Brexit, I could see these things coming.
I'm not going to say I predicted Trump, but I said things are going to get really weird.
People that you never expected to serve in government are going to suddenly be in government.
And then like four or five years later, I'm like, oh my God, you know, what's happening?
So those things are going to happen.
Our governmental structures are going to collapse.
And this is the part that bothers me about Barr and these guys.
They keep trying to preserve the old system and say, well, we've got to make the old system work the way it was supposed to work.
No, you have to accept that the old system is going away.
The old monetary system is going away.
The old government system is going away.
And what you should be working on is replacing it with something new and better because the old way is over.
People are not going to accept it.
You can't polish a turd, Beavis, right?
And our government is a turd.
But they can print money for a while and get away with it just for a while.
But this seems like some last desperate blow-off of the Federal Reserve system.
I mean, isn't the Federal Reserve just really, frankly, committing currency suicide at this point?
How many trillions this year alone?
$6.5 trillion?
Remember, Trump is now in charge of the Federal Reserve.
He's basically brought the books together in with the Treasury.
So what I think is going to happen is they're just going to keep printing money until the whole thing collapses or until they have – I don't know that Trump will let it collapse, but they're going to keep printing currency until basically the old fiat system is bankrupt, and they're going to replace it with an asset-backed currency.
I hesitate to say gold-backed because it'll be more than just gold.
And it'll put countries on a much more, you know, equitable level in terms of money.
And so that's what he's definitely doing.
He's killing off the old system by choking it on its own money.
And that's why the deficit doesn't matter and the debt doesn't matter.
And, you know, look, they could, you know how they could pay off the national debt?
Let's say it's $25 trillion.
You mint a one ounce 0.999 gold, you know, piece of, That says $25 trillion on it, and you walk it over to the Federal Reserve window, and you say, here, your debt's paid, go away.
And that's basically what's going to happen.
So for $1,800 worth of gold, you're going to be able to pay off $25 trillion in fiat currency.
So the value of money continues to get less and less and less, and I think it's going to be replaced by an asset-backed currency system.
Well, this is why people say, oh, well, Bitcoin's going to a million dollars.
And I say, yeah, if you define it in dollars, it's going to infinity.
Yeah.
Yeah, a million dollars in fiat currency.
And again, I mean, look, I may be wrong.
Cryptos may have something to do in the future, but cryptos are backed by even less than fiat currencies.
At least fiat currencies are backed by, you know, our birth certificates, which are made into financial securities, and we're given a monetary value.
I mean, cryptos aren't backed by anything, so I can't see them being part of the new world.
The new structure, but you know, you never know.
So I'm not going to tell people to sell your cryptos, but I don't have much and I'm not getting any, so.
Well, I don't have any either.
At one time, we had a solar-powered office in Tucson, and we had excess solar power.
So I bought Bitcoin mining machines back in the day when it made sense, and we used the excess solar power to mine Bitcoin, which I then went on with Peter Schiff, and I bought physical gold with the Bitcoin.
He accepted that at the time.
And so I turned sunlight into gold.
How about that?
Yeah, you take basically a worthless...
A vapor currency and turn it into something that has actual value.
It's pretty incredible to do that.
Yeah, and I keep trying to explain to people, gold is an element of the cosmos.
Gold, I mean, if you burn gold, you just get melted gold.
You can't get rid of it unless you have nuclear fusion or fission processes in your basement.
Hopefully you don't.
But you're not going to lose gold.
It's always going to be there.
Do not play with uranium, kids.
Yeah, trying to make gold.
Is that the lesson?
Yeah.
It's a very glowing experience when you attempt, as previous scientists have discovered.
In any case, Mike Barra, it's been a real pleasure being able to speak with you and brainstorm on all of these things.
I have a feeling this is just sort of the introduction.
Hey, tell us about your books.
Again, you mentioned them during the show, but what are they?
Oh, well, I have a whole bunch of books.
I have like eight books out.
Adventures Unlimited Press has a bunch of mine.
Ancient Aliens on the Moon, Ancient Aliens on Mars, Ancient Aliens on Mars 2, Hidden Agenda, NASA and the Secret Space Program.
There's Dark Mission, The Secret History of NASA. There's The Choice, which I'm going to send you a copy of because of what we talked about today.
And Ancient Aliens and JFK, which I think is my...
It's the one I'm the most proud of and I think is the most important because it talks about how the deep state targeted Kennedy and it was his involvement with the ET question, the extraterrestrial question, that got him killed.
And that's a big one.
And then I have a book on the Bermuda Triangle called The Triangle.
They're all available on Amazon.com or Adventures Unlimited Press or Feral House or New Page Books.
Those are the various publishers.
So go out and get them and I hope you'll enjoy them.
We'll put some of those on screen.
And by the way, if Trump wins his second term, is he going to declassify some exotic technology that would change humanity?
That's why Space Force has been created.
Space Force, I believe, is created so that they can start leaking out some of these advanced technologies, the propulsion technologies and the medical technologies primarily.
Are going to suddenly be discovered by research done under Space Force, and I think it's going to start happening fairly rapidly after the election, which I do believe at this point.
Unless they get away with massive fraud and everybody in the military is a traitor, I'm sure he's going to be president again.
Yeah, that's what it's looking like as well.
Well, Mike Barrett, thank you so much for joining us today.
It's been really intriguing being able to talk with you, and I hope you'll join us again, especially when you've got new topics, videos, or books.
Maybe they'll even let you post videos on YouTube again one day.
Yeah, hopefully Saturday.
Thanks, Mike.
It was great to be here.
Okay, thank you.
And thank you for watching, folks.
Share this everywhere that you can.
You'll probably be banned for doing so, but, you know, how dare you think for yourself?
That's really the topic here today.
Thank you for watching.
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That's okay with me.
We don't censor anybody for having a different view.
Whatever you think is happening, post it on Brighteon and let people make their own choices.
Thanks for watching.
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