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April 28, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Welcome everyone to Brighton Conversations.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of brighteon.com, where you will hear interviews that are banned everywhere else, especially on YouTube.
That's the whole point of Brighteon, is to be a free speech platform.
And today, we have as a guest a very special individual, someone who has reshaped human history, and with his new film, he is about to open the eyes of Probably hundreds of millions of people around the world about the truth of what's going on with COVID-19 vaccines, with the legal immunity that vaccine companies have against injury for their faulty products and so much more.
His name is Dr.
Andrew Wakefield.
You probably recognize that name.
He's a hero of the health freedom movement.
He joins us today.
Thank you, Dr.
Wakefield, for coming on.
It's a pleasure to have you here.
Mike, you're very kind.
Thank you for your comments and it's great to be talking to you again.
Well, it's just wonderful to see you again.
We haven't done an interview for a few years, it seems.
And look how much things have changed.
We're now in the middle of a pandemic.
We have President Trump using taxpayer money to fund billions of dollars worth of vaccines that might not be safe at all.
And the vaccine companies have been granted total legal immunity.
I mean, let's just start off with that.
We'll get into your film here in a second.
But what do you make of this situation?
Well, you know, it is utterly bizarre that when you take a product out of the free market, away from the constraints of the free market, and you take away liability, there's no incentive for safety.
They've got no downside.
They're going to have a, if Bill Gates gets his way, a mandatory market worldwide, all they can do is make an enormous profit.
And when we've done this before, and we characterize this in In the new movie, with the 1976 swine flu epidemic, there was no epidemic at all, there was no infection at all, but it was a CDC error.
There, the government were blackmailed into giving liability protection to the industry for the first time, and the consequences were disaster.
So people can now look into the past, look into the looking glass of this story and say, This is where we are going right now, but it's going to be 10 times worse, 100 times worse, because we're dealing, as you know, Mike, with Frankenstein viruses.
Well, and not only that, we now have extreme pressures on the financial markets for a vaccine savior to save the economy.
I mean, this is the way a lot of people in Wall Street are looking at this.
Like, we can only bounce back and have a good economy again if there's a vaccine.
And they don't even care if the vaccine works or if it's safe.
They just want a vaccine, and then they're going to throw more money into the stock market.
Meanwhile, tens of millions of people are unemployed and being paid not to work by the GOP Senate, which is...
They've just abandoned all economics.
But the point is, there's a rush now on the vaccine.
It's a rush.
It's a desperate rush.
Get it out.
Doesn't matter if it's tested.
Doesn't matter if it's long-term trial.
Doesn't matter if it's safe.
Just get it out there so we can have higher stock market prices.
That's insane.
That's not an economy and that's not medicine.
What would you even call that?
No, we're looking at a desperate public relations exercise, which is going to hurt a lot of people.
It's happened before and it will happen again.
You cannot rush science.
You cannot rush science which is largely unquantifiable and unknown.
You simply do not know how the population are going to respond to these vaccines.
We get some insight from the early trials and it's not good.
It's really not good that amongst the healthiest people in the population, when you give them a vaccine, then 80% of them getting a high dose have a severe adverse reaction.
A moderate adverse reaction.
That is not good.
And it bodes very badly for it when you have to give it to the elderly or those who have comorbid conditions.
So historically, if you had a vaccine with that safety profile, you wouldn't go near it.
But because there is this elaborate public relations exercise, the need, the desperate need for this salvation, then we are headed for catastrophe in my opinion.
Well, there's no question.
And even Moderna in the trial results that they released publicly, I think it was clear there was a dose-dependent response with increasing aggregate side effects that were mostly systemic effects, by the way, not simply local effects.
Systemic effects like chronic pain, fatigue, all kinds of things.
And if you look at the animal research on these mRNA vaccines over the past few years, you find that there's a real problem with autoimmune disorders and a hyperinflammatory response.
Why is no one paying attention to this research?
I mean, the science is already there in the animals, so they just skip the animal trials now and use humans as animals.
I guess my question is, could this be the most disastrous medical decision in history?
Yes, no question at all.
Let's say that you've done the short-term safety studies.
I know, Mike, autoimmune diseases don't emerge until there's some triggering factor maybe a year, 10 years down the line.
When it comes, it's catastrophic for the individual who's suffering from it.
So let's say you give this vaccine to everybody in the world and it produces autoimmune disease in 10% or 5% or 20%.
You've got a major, major problem on your hands, except unless, of course, you're a stockholder in the pharmaceutical industry.
Who would make trillions of dollars on the drugs that are then necessary to treat these patients with autoimmune disease?
So it's a kind of win-win for them.
They can't go wrong.
But you cannot rush this kind of thing.
Where we have done it in the past, it has been catastrophic.
Well, especially...
Oh, I'm sorry.
At the scale, too, the scale of the desire for globalists like Bill Gates, the scale of immunization that is being pushed.
For example, if you vaccinate a billion people with this vaccine, and we've already seen reports of side effects in 80%, even higher than that in the second dose group.
But even if you have, let's say, 1%, That's serious side effects, hospitalization, long-term damage.
I mean, people don't realize, you know, 1% of a billion is 10 million people.
And that dwarfs the number of people who have been killed by the pandemic.
So we could be looking at a situation where the vaccine could be far more disastrous than the pandemic that it was supposed to be stopping.
And that's a major concern.
I know you agree with that, but you're the expert in so much of this, I just have to get your reaction to what this is.
I've studied the history of this for a long time.
I've studied vaccine injury for a very long time, and what we're looking at is adding this experimental vaccine into an already bloated schedule for children, let alone adults, where We've got a 54% chronic morbidity in American children right now.
How is that going to compound this?
It's going to increase it dramatically, in my opinion.
And it's not that we now, you know, first of all, it was, well, we may have 80% efficacy.
Now, Factory's predicting 30% efficacy.
So how are they ever going to achieve their desired, if somewhat fictitious, goal of herd immunity with a vaccine?
They're never going to achieve it.
And then I see in the newspapers, quite rightly and quite understandably, that the latest poll says that less than half of the American people are going to have a COVID vaccine.
So you've got less than half of them having it in 30% efficacy unless, of course, they force us not only to have the vaccine, but to have a dose every three months for the rest of our lives.
How much money is that going to make?
But that's the situation that they're kind of anticipating at the moment.
Yeah, it seems like it's not even about herd immunity, it's about herd morbidity.
It's about, you know, corralling people into something that could really cause them serious harm.
But you've got a new film now, 1986, The Act.
And that's the website, 1986theact.com.
And please explain to people who don't know the history of Congress and the FDA and legal immunity, why 1986?
What is this film all about?
In 1986, Ronald Reagan signed into law the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, and that came about for very interesting reasons, not the reasons that people suspect.
But what the Act was intended to do was to take away financial liability for death and injuries caused by recommended childhood vaccines.
It was meant to compensate children who were damaged by vaccines, who were the And it was meant to make vaccines safer.
In the context of the first aim, it has been a tremendous success.
Exempting the pharmaceutical companies from liability has been an enormous success for them.
The rest has been an utter catastrophe.
And there was an unknown history to this story that I had to get into, and even surprised me.
I thought I knew a bit about it, Mike, but it really surprised me.
But what it is, in essence, is a story about what happens when you do exactly that.
You take a product, an industry, outside of the constraints of the free market, and you and I know that the free market operates such that good products, safe products, float to the surface and succeed, and the companies thrive.
And bad products sink to the bottom, and they perish.
Unless the company decided to make them better.
But when you take a product out of the constraints of that free market and you make it mandatory, then you've got a terrible, terrible problem.
And then on top of that, it gets worse.
If then the agencies, the federal agencies responsible for vaccine safety, such as the CDC, such as the FDA, conspire with the industry to To sabotage those checks and balances that Congress put in place to make vaccines safer,
to monitor the true rate of adverse reactions to vaccines, to do the safety science, then you have a nightmare, and that's exactly the situation we find ourselves in at the moment.
So it is a story about the history of the Act, how it came into being, and so for people who don't know, It was really about the pertussis vaccine, the wholesale pertussis vaccine.
And that was causing a lot of brain damage, a lot of seizures, a lot of death.
Unacceptable, that is, in the words of the authors of the biggest study that was ever done on this.
And the industry said to the government, we have made this vaccine as safe as we possibly can.
And yet we are being sued.
You are mandating this vaccine for children.
You want children to have it.
So if you want children to have it, then you take on liability or we are going to pull out of making it and children will die because whooping cough will come back and it'll be your fault.
That was the subject.
And that was a complete lie.
Because they knew as early as 1937, and bear in mind this vaccine didn't come, the safer acellular vaccine didn't come onto the market until the 1990s.
But in 1937, Ledley filed a patent for a safer acellular pertussis vaccine, a solidized antigen vaccine.
They knew that they could make it safer 60 years before the vaccine ever hit the market.
But because it was going to cost them pennies more to make They decided they weren't going to do it.
And thousands and thousands of children went to the wall in the meantime because the industry made that decision.
And then...
Sorry, go on, Mike.
Well, let me ask a question here, and while you're explaining all of this, this act in 1986, this then disincentivizes quality control during manufacturing as well.
Not only the formulation of the vaccine but also manufacturing.
There's no incentive for quality control or consistency in the vaccine or to recall even faulty products because there's no liability.
The liability is shifted to essentially the families Whose children are being harmed by these vaccines?
I mean, I know there's a fund set up, but most people who file with that secret vaccine court, most of their claims are rejected.
And the medical costs end up with the families who are not to blame.
You know, they're innocent victims in all of this.
It seems like the perverse economic incentives here have really created the nightmare that you're documenting in this film.
Yeah, it's even worse than that, Mike.
If you have no liability, if you cannot be sued for damage done by your vaccines, why would you do safety studies?
Why would you design safety studies that were adequate or proper?
Because those might identify problems with your vaccine that would impact on your market.
So you don't do them.
There is actually a disincentive to do the right safety studies, to do them at all.
Because it might expose problems that are going to impair your profitability.
And so it's got so much going against it.
It's the only industry in the world that I'm aware of that has this kind of liability protection and it has led to utter catastrophe.
Yeah, I think a great way to describe this to people is imagine if there were a car company in America that made very faulty cars that leaked gasoline and exploded all the time.
And, you know, people just driving around, their car explodes.
But that they did a deal with Congress, and Congress granted that car company legal immunity so that when the cars explode, you can't sue them.
You know, too bad for you.
You know, you're...
Your brother or your sister just blew up in a car.
Too bad for you.
And then, even worse, the government forced you to buy those cars.
That's interesting.
That's absolutely right.
You've got to buy that car, and you've got to drive it.
And it's interesting you should say that, Mike, because in the film, we illustrate some of the discovery documents with the Ford Pinto member.
Do you remember the Ford Pinto?
Of course you do.
And this is a situation where Ford wanted to get into the small car market with a $2,000 car to compete with the Japanese.
And that car had a major problem, a design fault, such that when it was rear-ended, the bumper assembly impacted the gas tank and it exploded.
And hundreds of people died or suffered severe burn injuries.
And Ford made a decision that they could withdraw that car or they could do a recall.
They could put a weld on the bumper assembly and make it safer for $11 per car.
But that was going to cost them about $145 million.
If they just let people burn, it was going to cost them $50 million.
So they made a business decision, they let people burn.
And the problem for Ford was that then found its way in front of a jury.
In legal discovery, that got into the courts and got to the jury.
And of course, there is nothing worse than a product manufacturer finding themselves in front of a jury having committed that kind of crime.
The punitive damages were huge.
And what the pharmaceutical companies have done is exactly the same.
What we disclose in the film is exactly that, what we call the Pinto memo for vaccines.
The discovery that they knew that vaccine was unsafe.
They knew the pertussis vaccine was causing injury.
And they decided that rather than spend a few pennies per dose, they were going to increase the cost of their vaccine to the American people by 6,000% so that they could stay in a market, cover their legal costs, and still make a profit.
When they knew all along that they could make a safer vaccine, their appalling behavior is absolutely disgraceful.
Well, it's criminal.
I mean, this is a massive criminal enterprise, and I believe that a lot of Americans did not realize that until COVID-19 came along.
And, you know, at first, Dr.
Fauci was a hero.
Now he's perceived by maybe half of America as rather quite a villain.
And in fact, his villainy goes all the way back to the swine flu vaccine.
I mean, they've run this scam before.
Which is pushing just insane fear more than is justified, covering up treatments that could prevent infections, in this case such as hydroxychloroquine, and then pushing a vaccine that earns lots of money for all those players who are involved and who have board positions on drug companies and so on.
I mean, this sounds like racketeering to me.
What do you say?
Yeah, it's exactly that.
It's even...
More interesting.
And what I'm really intrigued to get to the bottom of, Mike, is what was the role when these...
My belief is that the COVID-19 virus comes out of a Wuhan lab and that it is a virus that has been manipulated either through molecular genetics or through rapid passage in animal cells to produce a virus that is more capable of infecting human cells.
And the molecular biology really substantiates that.
So these are what are called gain-of-function studies, as you know.
The gain of the function, the function in this case, is the virus's ability to infect humans and cause harm.
Now, those studies caused outrage among scientists some years ago, and they were banned.
They were stopped by the Obama government in this country.
And yet, what appears to have happened, and I really want to get to the bottom of this, is that with Fauci at the head of the NIH, Funding was sent to China, to Wuhan, to actually allow that research to continue.
Now, if that's true, I would consider that to be treasonous, because they've been outlawed in America, and yet taxpayers' money is being sent offshore to continue these studies.
And if it is true, and if this virus is the consequence of that work, Which has caused global meltdown.
Then there really are some very serious questions that need to be answered by Dr.
Fenton.
Well, I completely agree with you on that point.
I've got a lot of questions for you on that.
But first, how can people find your movie, watch your movie, or buy your movie?
How do they do that?
Okay, you can go online to 1986react.com.
You can stream it.
You can download the movie.
And it's now coming out on DVD and Blu-ray.
DVD initially and then Blu-ray.
So we want to make it as accessible to people as possible.
It's also a complex story.
It's a story of legislation, litigation, medical science.
So it's a lot.
So what we're doing now is we're dividing it up into chapters so that people can watch an 8-minute chapter, a 10-minute chapter, go from one to the other, watch it on their iPhone on their way to work.
I sincerely hope they are.
And that people can take it in bite-sized chunks, so that it's not overwhelming.
I wanted this film to stand as the definitive study, the definitive analysis of the 1986 Act, so that people could see from woe to go how it really came about.
Are you getting this film into the hands of lawmakers that might be open to this message, such as Missouri Senator Josh Hawley and others?
Absolutely.
In fact, I was just up in New Jersey speaking on the steps of the state legislature and having the screening of the movie in the evening.
So that is exactly what we're doing because the aim of this film is to change that law.
If it does not change that law, it has not succeeded in my primary intention for the film.
That is the job of this film.
Get it to the people.
Get it to the voters.
Get it to the majority of Americans, as you say, who do not know that there is liability protection for death and damage caused by these vaccines.
And then let them vote accordingly, but get it into the hands of the electorate so that they can make a choice.
And that is that either they stand for the people that elected them, the people who elected them, or they work for the pharmaceutical companies.
And if they work for the pharmaceutical companies, they can go and look for another job.
Well, I think there is a mass awakening underway to the criminality of the vaccine industry, the drug companies.
I've never seen this kind of gain of knowledge, especially among conservatives or Trump supporters, but also outside of those sectors.
I find it fascinating that for maybe 20 years, people like you and I have been smeared and dishonestly vilified for asking critical questions about vaccine safety or vaccine composition, you know, real science-based issues.
And I think most of the public sort of believed that we must have been wrong for most of the time until now.
Now, they see America's frontline doctors, you know, Dr.
Stella Emanuel and others, being just savaged in the media.
These are frontline doctors who are saving lives, who are just speaking the truth about what works, and the backlash against the way they've been censored and vilified is now forming this massive uprising of awakening where The American people are saying, wow, these drug companies really are criminal conspiratorial cartels, and the media is in with them, and big tech is in with them.
Google is complicit in mass murder, you could even argue, and Facebook is complicit in murder.
My how things have changed.
You've been vindicated.
Things have changed.
It's interesting, isn't it, that it started with people like you and me.
It started with those who questioned Vaccine safety.
Then it went to those who were concerned more broadly about health freedom.
I'm talking about censorship.
And then it went to people who were marketing nutritional supplements, entirely valid nutritional supplements, which are necessary for normal immune function.
The censorship spread and spread and spread, and now it's the mainstream.
There you have these doctors standing up there on the steps of the Supreme Court.
Telling their clinical stories about their clinical experience dealing in the front line with patients with this disease, actually treating them, and then finding themselves censored on all platforms.
So where does it end, Mike?
Where does it end?
They're spreading their tentacles so far that, in the end, what it does is to inform the public that the single message that they're trying to protect is vaccines and vaccines only.
Those are our salvation And anyone who steps outside that rubric is going to be punished.
But that has led to the awakening of so many people.
How many of those doctors who took part in that press conference said, hey, whoa, I'm not even allowed to say this in mainstream media and I'm a doctor treating these patients.
I've never said a word against vaccines in my life.
And now I'm part of this mass of people who are being censored.
And I think the interesting thing is that The platforms like yours and others are going to be the new market.
Because what these people ironically have done, what Facebook and Instagram and all these others are doing, is censoring themselves from the market.
It won't happen overnight, but it's happening more and more and more.
People are saying, OK, you won't allow free speech.
We are going to go to those platforms that will allow free speech.
Yeah, we're not far from the day when you post an article on Facebook that talks about vitamin C, and it's disallowed, and Facebook displays a message that says, well, we don't allow content that causes physical harm to people.
Because that's what their message says right now if you post a story about America's frontline doctors.
So now Facebook and Twitter and YouTube, they are pretending to be board-certified experts in medicine when they have no such expertise.
And they're siding with the drug companies who are the organizations that have the history of fraud and bribery and price fixing and admitting to felony crimes, even under the Obama administration.
Remember the GlaxoSmithKline admission of massive felony crimes?
$3 billion settlement.
Well, I mean, if anyone has a history of lying, it's the drug companies, it's the vaccine companies.
They should be banned.
Their message is harmful to humanity.
As Bobby points out, the four manufacturers of all the childhood vaccines on the American schedule, the childhood schedule, all four of them are convicted felons by their own admission.
They had to confess to their crimes.
And yet, somehow, If you go to these companies, yes, they're criminals, but if you go down in the elevator two floors and along the corridor to the vaccine department, they've found Jesus.
Oh, really?
I don't think so.
Their behavior is not only the same, but worse.
And that's what this film discloses.
Now, is this film ever going to appear in theaters, or are you just going direct to customers?
Because, you know, I've seen in the past, theaters are threatened.
They're bomb threats to theaters that we're going to show, you know, Vax and things like that.
Yeah, we will do.
And what Vaxx did was build up a large number of movie theatres who faced that kind of threat.
There's going to be violence and picketing and rioting and these anti-vaxxers are hysterical.
And it never happened.
And once it never happened, the theatre owners realised that this was all just a big lie.
And so we made a lot of friends with Vaxx across the country.
People made a lot of money out of screening the film.
And what's happened this time, of course, Mike, is we intended for a theatrical release, but COVID couldn't end with that.
So we've decided to go out online, to go out on DVD, but to follow that up with a theatrical release.
And people, unlike if you show something like whatever it is, you know, Star Wars, people will not go to the movie theatre after they've seen it at home on television.
But with this kind of film, where there's an enormous following, People will come, and they will come because in that movie theater there is an extraordinary sense of community and oneness, where people can come, and as Polly's film showed, they're able to tell their stories for the first time.
So people come just to be part of that experience, and so I'm looking forward to taking this on the road.
And how many years have you been working on this film, by the way?
Overall, about four.
I started to conceptualize it about four years ago, but really got into it in the last two years.
It was an interesting challenge from a filmmaking point of view, because as I said, Mike, it's a really complex story.
And even the most ardent fan of this would be asleep in 10 minutes if you took it from the traditional documentary approach.
And so I was at a fundraiser in L.A., and Little pop-up fundraiser, and there was a celebrity couple there, and they said, we're going to get behind this film, we're going to do everything we can to help it.
And I thought, what can you do?
I know.
You can narrate the film.
Not as, you know, voice of God narration, but you can be the husband and wife expecting their first baby, and you are going to go on this journey of discovery, because you have a question to answer about What you're going to do with this baby once it's born, or even before it's born?
Are you going to get vaccinated as a pregnant mother?
And so now there was a journey.
Now there was a couple in whom we were invested as an audience because we cared about them, because they were us.
They asked the questions that we've asked, that every family, every young family around, every table in the world is asking every night.
What do we do about vaccination?
And now more so than ever, Stokely.
They go on that journey and we are now interested, we're engaged because their journey is our journey and their outcome matters to us.
And so it makes it a much more accessible and relatable film.
Well, this is the kind of investigative film that used to win a lot of prizes back in the day when actual investigations were valued by pop culture.
Today, instead, I think Dr.
Fauci is receiving a Human Rights Award.
Somewhere of some kind.
You notice how the most evil, the most destructive, the most dishonest groups and people, they love to give each other awards of how they're so loving and wonderful, when in fact, they're probably complicit in schemes of mass murder, in my opinion.
But I guess we're not anticipating that your film would win any official awards, but it might change the world anyway.
Yes, it would be nice to have got it.
I was sort of putting it into Tribeca again, Mike, just to get it censored again because of the De Niro effect.
How do we get publicity for this film?
I know.
Let's put it into a major film festival and have it pulled at the last minute.
Yeah, the timing was all wrong, but it did cross my mind.
Okay.
Now, one quick question.
Do you have, has your team put a trailer up on Brighteon yet?
Or do you have a channel on Brighteon for like little clips or trailers or things like that?
You know, we have a lot of that material.
We will get that to you.
And I'm very keen that we should be on your platform.
I've heard nothing but the things that I must get onto it.
I've been tied up with making this movie, but now I'd love to engage.
I think it's great.
We'd love to have you on the platform, even just posting your other video blogs, commentary, things like that.
We've helped other people move their entire platform, like Stefan Molyneux.
He was blacklisted by YouTube, and we made a commitment to Stefan.
We said, look, We'll get all your videos and we'll put them on Brighton for you.
I'll have my staff do it for you.
And he said, great, that's fantastic.
And then I said, well, how many videos do you have?
And he said, 3,600.
We're like, wow, okay, let us begin.
We better get on him.
Because he's been doing it for so long.
But yeah, we're helping a lot of people migrate over.
I mean, even Del Bigtree with Highwire, his team set up a channel, and he's now posting lots of Highwire videos, which is great.
So yeah, definitely take advantage of that.
Let me ask you about the Lancet, because the Lancet got caught publishing this fake science to try to destroy hydroxychloroquine.
And you know the study I'm referring to.
Yes, you do.
And the study went back to this, I don't know, this made-up company that claimed to have patient data, and it was run by, I don't know, a former porn writer and a science fiction writer.
I don't know what it was.
It was insane.
The Lancet published the study.
Hundreds of scientists immediately started questioning it, saying, what?
How could this data be true?
And eventually Lancet had to pull it.
But in the meantime, the WHO used that fake study to cancel the clinical trials of hydroxychloroquine.
So it was kind of mission accomplished.
But doesn't this show that even mainstream science has abandoned all shred, any last shred of ethics in its attempt to try to push vaccines and destroy alternatives?
Yes, there's no question.
It really exemplifies just how desperate they are to pursue that.
It didn't matter to them that it was going to be found out.
They must have anticipated that there was a good chance of it being found out.
But as you say, it achieved the objective in the short term.
It gave the World Health Organization and others just enough of an impetus To pull the studies.
And it's very, very difficult as you know to get those reinstated once they've been pulled.
And so the prevailing narrative until those doctors turn up on the steps of Supreme Court is that hydroxychloroquine is a non-starter.
And of course, what it all comes down to is that Trump said it was a choice and a valid choice, a valid therapeutic choice.
On hydroxychloroquine, he said, and anything that Trump says, the other side has to take exception to.
So it's become such a political nightmare.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with looking after the welfare of the American people, protecting them from an infection.
There is no data, no information at all in the mainstream that is in the least bit credible.
And so probably like you, I've I've stopped looking at mainstream altogether because it is such a scam.
Such a lie.
I think it's extraordinary how quick these institutions are to abandon their principles in order to try to achieve a political goal.
We saw this with the media.
The New York Times has lost any reputation among any sensible person with their pushing of just totally fabricated lies, the Russia collusion hoax against Trump, for example.
They've just abandoned journalism.
In fact, they admit it.
They talk about that.
They have to stop being journalists because they have to destroy Trump.
They openly talk about it.
But then we've seen the same thing now in science journals, including the New England Journal of Medicine, not just the Lancet.
And this goes through many different journals and many different institutions, including a university.
Stanford has put out some of the most horrendous Just awful science.
I'm beginning to wonder if Stanford, in order to be admitted to their research division, you have to prove that you don't understand integers or something.
It's atrocious, but it shows the desperation and it shows that I guess it begs the question, what can the average person believe in, or do they have to now disbelieve everything from the science journals, from the media, from the experts like Fauci?
Should we just say, you're all liars, we don't accept anything?
What's the right answer for consumers of information?
That is one of the main themes of this film.
One of the main themes of this film, Mike, is the power, the extraordinary power of maternal intuition.
It's an ancient voice that has evolved over millions of years.
That is not an emotional argument.
It's a survival imperative.
It's the reason that we're here on this earth now, not because of Fauci or vaccines or antibiotics or medicine or men in white coats, It is maternal intuition, the knowledge of when their child is well and ill, what is best for their child, what is not good for their child.
And it is an extraordinarily powerful phenomenon.
And it leads this woman, this mother-to-be on that journey.
She knows that there is something to this story that she needs to investigate.
Now, like 95% of the couples, thousands of couples I've talked to over the years, where there is controversy within the family about this, The husband, of course, is, oh, come on, really get over it.
What about polio?
And walks out of the room.
But she knows that there is some issue.
And people have said, well, that's just anti-science.
You're deferring to the mother's intuition.
No.
The mother's intuition doesn't say to her, don't vaccinate.
It says, read the science, investigate, understand the Where this came from.
And that's what she does.
She goes on a journey of researching and researching and researching.
And pulling the whole story to pieces and exposing it to us as the audience as she does so.
And her husband, if he's going to be a father to this child and her husband still, he's got to get on board.
And she takes him on that journey.
And so what that says to us, and it's true because the ultimate, the conclusion of this film and the conclusion of all of this Factual experience is that she was right.
It is an utter endorsement of that maternal intuition.
And when mothers realize that, not only individually but collectively, then we have the power to turn this entire thing around.
We defer to that inner voice, that inner authority, not to the external authority of Tony Fauci or Bill Gates or whoever these people are.
We trust ourselves.
We trust our own instincts.
And that sounds like quite a thing for people to grasp at this stage because we've spent so long investing in the credibility, our trust in the man in the white coat.
But let me give you an example, Mike, just a concrete example to illustrate what I mean.
One day, as a family, we were on holiday in southern Spain in a villa.
And we were upstairs.
My son had a fever.
He was about six at the time, and we were up in his bedroom, and my wife was sitting on the bed with him, mopping his brow.
And the rest of the children, we had four children, were in the bedroom, apart from one.
Suddenly, my wife leapt up.
She ran across the room, didn't say a word, ran down the stairs, ran across the kitchen, ran across the courtyard, ran across another courtyard, ran into the pool area, and leapt full-length into the pool.
To catch my baby daughter just as she took the last step down into the pool, which would have led to her certain death.
Where did that come from?
I just, all I could do was marvel at that extraordinary thing.
She knew.
She just knew.
Something told her not only that there was danger, but precisely where that danger was.
And she saved my daughter's life.
And that is as concrete and as real as any science you'll ever read.
And it's just that we don't understand its origins.
But those two people who were once one are inseparable for all time.
And that is the intuition I'm talking about.
So when mothers regain that knowledge, when they regain that inner authority, then...
We will start making decisions in our own interest and not in the interest of or not driven by fear.
Well, that's an extraordinary description of a very real phenomenon.
And yet the establishment, the media establishment, the science establishment, big tech and so on, it seems like one of their primary goals is to isolate us from our humanity, right?
So they want to disconnect the mother from the child.
And you see this in many ways.
And I know this isn't about abortion, but in the abortion industry, they use language that says, not a child until it's born.
And even then, in some states, it's legal to terminate that child's life.
But how could they say that a mother and a child, that that's not a child, that's just tissue, you see?
So there's a disconnect.
And then even when we're adults, they say, don't trust your judgment.
You're not the expert.
You're not allowed to question anything.
You have to listen to these experts who all happen to have, by the way, financial ties with the new patented vaccine, you know, if conflicts of interest.
But isn't that a big part of the message, is to turn us into biological robots who no longer listen to our inner selves or listen to a higher power?
That's all part of it, right?
And I think Forbes wrote this article.
Was it Forbes that wrote the article saying, do not do your own research?
Do not investigate.
Defer to that.
That man in the white coat.
As you say, they're conflicted in the biggest way.
He's conflicted.
He has financial interest in Moderna and other companies.
And Gates.
For heaven's sake, where did Gates come from?
What?
Authority on this planet.
I gave him a place to sit and dictate global vaccine policy and personal health policy.
He has no qualification.
Zero.
And yet, he finds his way onto mainstream media telling us how we will live or die.
Dr.
Wakefield, one of my main concerns that a lot of people have not talked about is the fact that because of the extreme censorship that now favors vaccine dogma and silences vaccine skeptics, there is no longer any mechanism in society by which people who are harmed by mandatory COVID-19 vaccines could even voice Their experience of vaccine injury.
That entire mechanism has been wiped out.
If you are damaged by a vaccine, if you're paralyzed, if you have febrile seizures, whatever, and you try to post that on Facebook, you're going to be deplatformed and blocked because they're going to say, well, that doesn't coincide with the truth from the WHO. There are no vaccine side effects.
You can't say there are.
So how could a society...
That now has the gatekeepers of speech and knowledge who have total control and are run by the vaccine industry.
How could that society ever have the self-awareness to even know when a vaccine is damaging large numbers of people?
The reason for this is people are not aware of the existing systems for recording vaccine adverse events through the vaccine adverse events reporting system.
It's not publicized, even though Congress made it mandatory that CDC and FDA publicize that resource.
They didn't do it because it would reveal the true rate of adverse reactions to vaccines.
So can you rely upon the government to do it?
No.
So my suggestion, my immediate thought as we were talking about this, Mike, is that Mike Adams on his platform sets up a new repository for people to access to file their vaccine reactions to COVID-19.
And of course, the question that that raises is how do people become aware of that new platform?
And I think there are sufficient numbers of New platforms available to people, new websites.
Dell's new website asks, for example, the film, the knowledge that it's going out, to spread the word that there is this repository for credible Data on adverse vaccine reactions.
It's going to be difficult.
It's going to be a challenge.
But we can be sure of one thing, and that is that the government are not going to want to do it.
There will be no will to do it.
It will be a tiny budget with which to do it.
And it will ultimately yield false and misleading results.
Well, we may take on this project and have a website where people can submit vaccine reactions, but knowing in advance, of course, that site would be subjected to intense cyber attack, DDoS attacks, infiltration, and trolls posting fake stories, things like that.
Because, you know, the vaccine industry is a criminal mafia, and they've run these tactics against you and I at levels that we can't even publicly talk about.
People really would not believe the kind of lives that you and I lead and others like us.
Dale Bigtree, I recently had a private conversation with him.
He just, even he's astonished.
He just could not ever think what he got himself into.
You know, the level of threats and so on.
But I may do that project.
I'll keep you posted if we do.
Somebody needs to do it.
But I do know that we have a plan to have a vaccine videos website that is videos just about vaccines.
And we already have the technology to do that.
And we're putting a lot of research into new features, a lot of research investment, I should say.
But getting to the question for you, sorry to take up so much time there.
I'd like to ask you, as a physician, what's your take on this new platform, the mRNA vaccines?
Where, as far as I could tell, there is no existing messenger RNA vaccine that's been approved for human consumption until now, what appears eminent through Moderna.
And aren't there lots of questions about, you know, what happens when you have extracellular mRNA material floating around in the body, possible inflammatory responses, things like that?
I mean, is this the right time to try a whole new platform experiment?
The answer is no.
The answer really is no.
The idea is that you put messenger RNA in, that it encodes for a protein and that protein, once produced by cells, elicits an immune response.
So you become, in effect, your own factory for generating the vaccine.
But the problem is, Mike, that on many, many levels, but once it's in, you can't get rid of it.
It's there, and it'll go on churning out that protein and churning it out.
What if that protein is a protein that stimulates an autoimmune reaction in 5-10% of the population?
There is no way of them switching that on.
And that really, really worries me.
Our experience of these kinds of Frankenstein vaccines, and one was the dengue fever virus vaccine that was used in the Far East.
And there was a classic example of taking the backbone of one virus and sticking on genetic elements of another virus, creating this Frankenstein, and then putting it into people, and it didn't cause any adverse reaction.
And they produced antibodies, and it was thought to be wonderful until they were then exposed to the natural dengue fever virus, and then it was catastrophic.
And many, many children who got that were killed or damaged, and that risk stayed with them lifelong.
And of course, the drug companies tried to cover it up and hide it.
They knew there were problems in advance of it being licensed.
And now there are criminal charges against them in those countries.
So it is our experience, even this early in the game, is not good.
And so I have grave concerns that when we start to mess with nature in this way, we start to mess with these genes, we know not what we do.
And we are going to reap a terrible reward for generations to come.
Well, that really speaks to the importance of what your new film talks about, 1986, The Act.
I want to encourage people to go to that website, 1986theact.com, watch the trailer, stream the film.
But when you grant legal immunity to an industry that operates with extreme arrogance, This apparently science-based hubris of playing God with people's bodies and cells and overriding and hijacking the protein synthesis mechanism of the body's cells.
People don't realize proteins are hormones.
Proteins are enzymes.
Proteins are building blocks and so much more.
Proteins are messenger molecules inside the body.
You mess with that.
There is a complexity That, in my view, I think can only be understood by the mind of God.
You can't take some researchers and offer them bonus shares in big pharma and say, oh, you're God now.
You play God with people's bodies and we're going to mass produce this for billions of people and we're going to silence anyone who says that it's a problem.
That is the recipe for medical genocide.
I don't know any other way to say it.
Yes, when they did the sort of human genome project and derivative studies from that, they thought that if they altered one gene, it would alter one outcome.
The knock-on effects of altering the function of one gene We're myriad.
They altered the functioning of a whole host of genes that could never have been predicted.
And people step right back from it.
They say, wow, we're messing with something we don't understand.
Someone was asked, you know, what did you learn from your involvement in the Human Genome Project?
And they said that the environment is more important.
And that really is the takeaway message.
We need to control and protect our environment.
We need to optimize our environment because that we can influence, but do not mess with the genetic code that has evolved over millions of years to reach this Really an exquisite state of operation right now that we are interfering with and damaging so readily and so easily.
And it's really worrying to see because, as you know, Mike, if you offend nature, if you cause one tiny change in the ecosystem, then nature will exact a huge price and it won't do it immediately.
It will happen some years down the line, and when it happens, it will be far bigger than you could ever have anticipated.
So we mess with nature at our peril.
Yeah, there was a science fiction film called Children of Men that imagined a world where no one could have children anymore.
And the human race was dying out.
And that was science fiction until now.
You know, the side effect of hijacking protein synthesis could be, and I'm not saying it will be, but there is a risk that this could cause widespread infertility, widespread infertility.
What if the women's bodies began to attack hormones required for gestation, such as progesterone, for example?
You could have sort of immune system reactions against elements of the body that create children.
I mean, it's no longer science fiction.
What would you say, you know, if you could speak to President Trump right now and just like put some duct tape over the mouth of Fauci for a few minutes, send him off into the pumpkin patch or wherever he came from, and if you could say something to President Trump right now, what would that be?
I would say that one of your greatest priorities, Mr.
President, is to protect the health freedoms and the bodily autonomy and the individual rights of Americans.
And Americans genuinely believe that.
And that your role is to preserve that above almost all other things at this stage.
You cannot be forced.
One should never be forced to have any medical procedure, and most certainly not an experimental COVID-19 vaccine.
Where there is indemnity from payouts for damages done by your vaccines, there can be no mandates.
There can be no mandates at all anyway, but there most certainly cannot be mandates where there are such exquisite and unquantifiable risks.
So, even though that is what the Gates and the Fauci's of this world want, it is absolutely unacceptable.
And I think you would find that the great majority of Americans, if they knew that there was no liability for death and damage done, would say, give me back my bodily autonomy because it's my choice as to what I put into my body and the body of my children.
Well said, and the American people are probably very close to finding out that there's no liability among the vaccine companies as people start to suffer the damage.
I mean, this is inevitable.
When you have, I mean, hundreds of millions of Americans are going to be vaccinated.
I mean, that's what looks likely, one way or another.
The government's buying hundreds of millions of doses from different companies such as AstraZeneca and Pfizer and so on.
There are going to be side effects.
There's going to be harm.
There's going to be hospitalization and death.
People are going to find out very quickly that the courts, that you do not have due process anymore in this nation, that we are living under a pharmaceutical cartel, a criminal cartel, run by genocidal, greed-based lunatics who will kill any number of people as long as they make more money in the process.
So, any final thoughts, Dr.
Wakefield, before we wrap this up?
I mean, it's been an amazing conversation already.
What would you like to add before we go?
On that point you just made, Mike, I mean, you see Gates on television talking about, yes, look, there will be damage.
Concurring with you, there will be damage.
There will be adverse outcomes.
And rather than saying something like, and so those people...
Who have been injured should be generously and expeditiously compensated for paying that price.
His response to that is so we will need indemnity.
We will need protection from liability.
There is no humanity to this man at all.
I mean, just as a public relations exercise, someone might have taken him aside and said, well, look, why don't you say that people who are injured should be compensated and protected and looked after and cared for for the rest of their lives?
No.
His interest is exclusively in getting indemnity for the manufacturers and those administering the vaccine.
It should be.
Bill Gates, for five seconds, pretend to be human.
That's the advice he should be given.
Just pretend.
Mark Zuckerberg, for five seconds, stop looking like a cyborg.
You know what I mean?
But I do believe, Mike, as a parting message, that I'm an eternal optimist.
I do believe that we have an extraordinary ability ultimately to survive, to determine our own destiny, to take back what is ours and our bodily autonomy.
And I think that this...
Events have conspired.
They've come together in an extraordinary way.
COVID-19, the film, everything that's going on, censorship, to bring this to a head, to bring this to a point where there is such awareness that people are going to start to defer back to that inner authority and say, there's something about this that just doesn't feel right.
Until I'm satisfied about that, until I've done my research, and until I've listened to Mike Adams' show and so on, then I'm going to defer making a decision on this.
And if I'm pushed, I am going to refuse to have that vaccine until I know more.
And this could also be the great failing of the vaccine industry.
This could be the turning point when millions of people suffer and die and they can't cover it up anymore.
And enough of us whistleblowers and independent voices are able to reach out there.
This could be the end of the vaccine terror era.
Under which we have lived since 1986.
I mean, it's a kind of medical terrorism, and it may come to an end, but not until a lot of people suffer.
That's the sad part.
Yes, and I think that people like, even people like Paul Offit are so aware of that, so keenly aware that they're sounding alarms, because they know that if they get it wrong this time, then public confidence in vaccine policymakers will be lost for all time.
And that will be across the board for all vaccines, and they do not want that to happen.
So even those ardent fans of vaccinology and vaccines are stepping back from this.
As they should.
Well, it's really been an honor being able to speak with you again, Dr.
Wakefield, after, you know, a couple of years of not interviewing you.
I hope you'll be able to join us again.
I'd love to hear more, you know, in the months ahead about the success of your film.
I want to encourage our viewers to go to your website, 1986theact.com and download the film, stream the film, buy the film, get the DVD, hand it out to friends, you know, loan it to your neighbor.
I mean, awaken them to what's going on and also look for trailers and maybe snippets.
I don't know what you'll post, but whatever it is on brighteon.com.
And we're definitely going to have a lot of additional videos about vaccines in the months ahead.
Dr.
Wakefield, it's been an honor.
Thank you for joining me today.
It's great to be on.
Thank you.
Well, that's a wrap, folks.
Dr.
Wakefield, a legend in the realm of health freedom and a filmmaker who truly deserves incredible recognition for the sacrifices that he's made, the efforts that he's making today for humanity, please support his film.
Because guess what?
If you do, he'll make more.
So just go onto his website, buy the film, give him financial support, vote with your dollars, and he will dedicate his life to producing more similar films that help wake us up and help us fight against the evils of a vaccine industry that is preying upon our children.
I'm Mike Adams, the founder of BrightTown.com.
Thank you for watching today.
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