Dr. Judy Mikovits interviewed by the Health Ranger on coronavirus plandemic
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Welcome everyone to this Breitian Conversations interview.
I'm Mike Adams, known as The Health Ranger, the founder of Brighteon.com and the publisher of NaturalNews.com.
Today, this is probably the most requested interview of the year.
We have Dr.
Judy Mikovits with us, who is the author of the new super best-selling book, I mean, super popular all over the world right now, Plague of Corruption.
That book is published by Skyhorse Publishing.
It's available everywhere.
And you can also check out the website, plaguethebook.com.
Dr.
Judy Mikovits joins us today to talk about the pandemic, the documentary, the censorship, her time at the American Cancer Society, Dr.
Fauci, and much more.
Thank you, Judy, for taking the time to join us today.
Thank you, Mike.
It's a pleasure to be here.
Well, it's great to have you on.
You have been just viciously censored.
I mean, it's not just that people disagree with you.
I mean, even you and I might have some small areas of disagreement, but it's that they're destroying your ability to speak.
Can you start out by, first give us a little bit of background for our viewers who may not be familiar with your history, and then talk about the censorship, please.
Yeah, I'm a career research scientist for the National Cancer Institute for 21 years.
In pharmaceutical industry for a decade, and then at university for another decade.
And we made a...
A major discovery back in 2009 of a new family of cancer and autoimmune disease-causing viruses that came from mice, mouse-related viruses.
And it became clear over the two years that we did the study of the mouse viruses that they weren't only associated with chronic fatigue syndrome, but with things like autism, with neurocancers, with Acquired immune deficiencies and of course the The blow that ruined my career was the realization that the most likely way these contagious mouse-related
cancer-causing viruses got into people was not only the contaminated blood supply for almost 40 years, starting back with HIV times, but then again, the vaccines.
And so vaccines are loaded with animal tissue and adventitious agents And when it was realized that 25 to 40 million Americans, and that was the number back in 2011, that were potentially infected and carrying these cancer-causing viruses and contributing to these exploding rates of cancer and chronic disease,
the decision by the government was basically just to destroy the messenger, make me go away.
And Dr.
Fauci was personally involved in that effort to silence you?
Oh yes, he was funding the studies where we discovered this family of viruses and to more than seven million dollars ultimately funded these studies.
And when the data became obvious that our studies would be replicated, Dr.
Fauci shut down that last multi-center study that published in 2012 And prior to that, in order for me to even participate, I couldn't participate fully because I was arrested, falsely arrested, held in jail on felony fugitive from justice charges that were based on no warranty.
Except for the mention that it came from a federal agency and the NIH and the NCI laboratories had that felony fugitive from justice.
Under my name, should I ever step on in the laboratory, I would have been arrested.
So, first of all, for people who have not heard your story before, this is extraordinary information.
I know you've talked about this in hundreds of interviews.
But I think a lot of people, only now, thanks to this pandemic in a way, the weird silver lining to this horrible atrocity that's happening around the world, is that many people for the first time are waking up and finding out that the science establishment is a criminal cartel of extreme corruption, and that it has been for decades.
And you were blowing the whistle years ago, or attempting to, they threw you in prison.
Right.
In jail.
They threw me in jail for five days.
No warrant.
No bail.
By the time I did get out, $100,000 bail.
Haven't had a single day in court.
A single day of discovery.
No due process.
Lost my constitutional rights.
For five years after that, I was silenced because when those fraudulent felony fugitive from justice charges were dropped, they said, if you...
Go on a blog.
If you speak, if you do anything other than talk to your lawyers and your family by a phone or computer, then you'll be arrested again, and this time you'll never get out.
So what we did was, fortunately, Kent Hecken-Lively is a lawyer, so we wrote The Plague, the original book, which came out in 2014.
We started this documenting those events This is a much heavier science book, as you can tell.
It's still a story about those five days in jails and those horrific events that happened to me, but the science is detailed.
This was published November 18, 2014.
And not one word was said about the government.
And you see here the new front material.
The new front material for the paperback, which was published in 17, is all about how Tony Fauci corrupted those studies.
And not one word since then has been said until Plague of Corruption published April 14th, a month ago.
And then all of a sudden, the attacks wake up on me again, where the journals start, and the journals are just as corrupt, and this is what's so hard for me to understand, or even for my colleagues in science.
None of us would ever think that level of corruption existed.
And yet, again, there are so many prominent thinkers and people emerging who are now recognizing this, even Robert F. Kennedy Jr., for example, who wrote the foreword to your book, I'm a huge supporter of their work and I've also praised his work as well and his courage.
He has paid a dear price politically and reputation wise for taking his stance and standing for the truth.
They haven't put him in jail like they did you.
But many of us have paid a steep price for attempting to tell the truth about the corruption of science.
Even Chris Martinson from Peak Prosperity now Who was never into, quote, conspiracies.
He has stumbled into them and now the virologists are calling him a conspiracy theorist for simply questioning the gene insertions into this, you know, at least there's some biological weapon version that was being worked on in labs in China and elsewhere.
But do you agree with my assertion that there is now some level of awakening that's happening?
At least more people are starting to question now.
Yeah, it's amazing, the level of questioning.
And that's one of the testimonies to Ken Tech and Lively, who's not only an attorney, but a sixth grade science teacher.
So his training and asking questions and getting the answers in such a way that the people understand him.
This book is now New York Times bestseller, USA Today bestseller this week.
Amazon bestseller.
In fact, both books are now bestsellers.
So the people are waking up because when you see the...
And yes, the COVID-19 situation highlights all of this because what we're being told is the exact opposite of anything that has to do with public health.
Shutting us down for a flu, taking away...
Natural herd immunity, staying out of the sun and the sand.
Oh, we're locked down, causing all kinds of economic destruction, but more importantly, our health, depression, seasonal affective disorders, the driving, literally, and driving everything home, and every night continuing on the news with Oh, just go get your flu shot because get it at the end of the summer.
Yeah, because you'll cause, you know, the next round because, again, the science is lying about the shots and their role in driving these pandemics.
I do want to ask you more details about that.
And by the way, I put out a little mini documentary yesterday called How the Lockdowns Are Being Weaponized.
So even though initially, in the initial response, I saw the need Personally, for stopping air traffic and so on.
Within 30 days, we had a tremendous amount of knowledge of how to stop transmission and nutrients that worked and ways to get back to work.
But now what I see is the lockdowns are being weaponized.
They're being extended without justification.
It's a way to punish the American people, punish the economy, perhaps punish Trump.
but it's a way to enslave people to deny them remedies and cures and prevention strategies so that they can be corralled like cattle into a vaccine holocaust is what I'm calling it.
That's what it looks like to me.
Correct.
You're exactly right.
And I agree completely.
And I do agree with you and with Mr. Trump when he stopped the air travel, because that's how you stop a virus that came from China from coming to the U.S.
But you also stop other things that drive the infection.
And that hasn't been done when the lockdowns and these other things, as you mentioned, these draconian measures are weaponizing and are getting us into anger and health situations where we'll do anything to go back to life.
even if it's take that shot that we'll never recover from and could even kill us.
Absolutely.
I want to ask you about that in more detail.
Let me provide a little bit of background.
Just this week, The DOD awarded a hundred plus million dollar contract to the ApiJect company to purchase 500 million injection devices that have optional RFID tracking and GPS geolocation to synchronize private patient data with A government cloud database.
So right there, that freaks people out.
And then Trump announced that he's going to deploy the military to have mass vaccinations nationwide, to have the vaccines by the end of this year, and to mass vaccinate large, large numbers of people nationwide.
This is setting off alarm bells, even in many Trump supporters and so on.
It sounds like He wants the military to administer the vaccines at gunpoint.
Now, I'm not saying that, I mean, he hasn't announced that yet, but that's what it sounds like to a lot of people.
What's your take on what's going on?
Right.
That was the most surprising thing to me.
And here in Ventura, our public health official, Dr.
Levin, stood up there and said, we're going to take people from their homes.
If somebody's positive and others are not, and we don't have more than one bathroom, then we're going to start taking people from their homes and quarantining them.
And what if it Is your children?
Are you going to take your children away?
Take away your funding, Medicare, things like that.
My husband would be one because he actually has COPD. He won't test positive, but of course we know we're not going to submit to testing because the tests are contaminated.
The tests come from them.
We have no idea what they're testing for.
So even that they would test your temperature on the way in to a grocery store.
This is, for me, this is horrific and I am...
I do feel, I don't know why it's not over, and it should have been over weeks ago, but I can't understand why Mr.
Trump would say, you know, the military is going to administer these vaccines when it's pretty clear there's been no vaccine for a severe acute respiratory syndrome causing coronavirus in 20 years.
And in fact, they have done more damage and spread the disease.
What are we thinking?
And the vaccine research on SARS-CoV-1, the classic SARS, those vaccines failed because they caused the cytokine storm immune reaction upon subsequent infections in animal studies.
So do you find it astonishing that practically everyone in the science establishment and everyone in the mainstream media, and even Trump himself, is just...
Assuming that a vaccine will be a miracle cure, that it will work, that it will be safe, that it will be effective, that it will have no side effects.
I mean, aren't they supposed to be evidence-based medicine?
How are they leaping to something that doesn't even exist, has never been tested, never been proven?
What is this?
Well, and it's censorship at the height because so many more doctors, my colleagues, virologists, you know, in 2014-15 got together and said, this is dangerous.
Don't do this type of research.
And it was against the law and we did it anyway.
So we're only hearing from mainstream media because the rest of us are censored.
There's a huge number of people that say, hey, we don't need that.
We have therapies right now.
We have type 1 interferons.
We have all the knowledge.
We appreciate how to make immune therapies for cytokine storms.
Why would you...
And everything you said is true as far as...
With the MERS, the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome vaccines, those actually drive the pathogenesis and can drive cardiac arrest within days of the shot.
And why would we think injecting RNA into people, the very thing that creates cytokine storms, is going to help?
I mean, the science doesn't think that.
Why is the information not coming out on mainstream media?
Yeah, well, we know why, of course, the mainstream media is driven by big pharma, and this whole thing is being engineered for a big pharma payday, regardless of how many people die from the malnutrition caused by lockdowns, lack of sunshine, depression, suicides, economic collapse, all that.
They don't care as long as they get their payout.
And I know you've said things like that before, but let me ask you this.
Your documentary, well, I should say documentary about you, Plandemic, I should plug it to tell people it's available on brighteon.com.
That's the free speech video platform that we built.
We spent millions of dollars to build it.
It's now practically the only place you can find Plandemic.
It has been meticulously censored and taken down off of Facebook and YouTube and Vimeo even.
Can you tell us a little bit about just the censorship push to silence your voice and remove that documentary?
Yeah, well, that documentary certainly spearheaded the censorship for us, which we hadn't experienced at that level before.
And it was surprising to us because it had been set up, PlandemicMovie.com, such that it could download to your computer and you could save everywhere.
And yet every time...
It pops up again, or even someone talking about it, it's censored, and it's taken down.
The good news is the movies is those voices that were censored so much more than me, as other doctors that are, including Luc Montagnier, who endorsed our book and talked about how corrupt medicine is.
Luc Montagnier has the 2008 doctor Nobel laureate for the isolation of HIV, and he was even interviewed for Plandemic.
That was only part one, and several more parts are coming here in the next three months to show where scientists who are speaking up, doctors who are speaking up, won't be silenced and concur with me and others.
Yes, we disagree in subtle little ways, but overall medicine is corrupt, and this plague of corruption, This old boys network at the top has to end, and as we've said, if we don't end all of this before these vaccines are rolled out, even the flu vaccine at the end of the summer, I will keep saying, please, please, please, no more vaccines, or we'll never have our freedom again.
I compare the urgent need to take down this big pharma anti-human complex.
We have to treat it as if we're defeating the Third Reich.
I mean, we have to take it that seriously.
We have to dismantle.
It is a corrupt, anti-human, dangerous, malicious cartel of evildoers who basically confiscate productivity from the economy, strip mining money out of people's pockets by spreading disease and infections and death and suffering.
That is their model.
That's what they do.
A quick programming note, I didn't realize you were going to be releasing additional chapters or interviews.
Could we talk later about, I would love for Brighteon.com to be your safe haven.
So we could feature your videos on Brighteon.
We could really promote them there.
We could protect them there.
And also, I'm sorry, go ahead.
I'll certainly send you to the filmmaker for Plandemic.
That was Mickey Willis.
But we do have other filmmakers and other videos with Ty and Charlene Bollinger for Truth About Vaccines.
So yes, we'd really appreciate if Brighteon, because these are being taken down at Brighteon.
At an incredibly rapid rate, so the more we pop up there, the more they take down.
So we'd appreciate brighteon.com protecting them.
And we are rolling out a multi-domain system where people could share your video and embed it using other domains other than brighteon.com because what's happening is ISPs are censoring brighteon.com.
Because of your video.
So, I mean, it's incredible.
I'm just telling it like it is.
I mean, this is the level of censorship that we have never witnessed before to silence you.
It's not like they want to debate with you.
They're not willing to debate.
They just want to say that you can't speak, that they are right, and no one can question that.
I mean, but isn't that indicative of the level of corruption and fraud and evil that the institutions have become?
Correct, and it's the level of how important the information in Plague of Corruption is.
It looks like prophecy.
You're absolutely right.
The data we've gathered over the last decade that I realized that science was corrupt and there was a plague of corruption surrounding lots of dangerous viruses.
You're exactly right.
This is a holocaust.
And I think back to in 1936, and I think to where they covered this all up from people, and the reason I say 1936 is because I rode crew in college, and there's a book called The Boys in the Boat about the 1936 Olympic team in rowing,
and you can see how the Nazi Germany was, and the Olympics in Berlin was whitewashed, how Nobody, the athletes, didn't know about it.
And you can see that same level of corruption.
But now we have the internet.
Now we have free speech networking.
So everything's going so fast to get this Holocaust and get it finished and shut us down, remove our rights, take away our freedom, and end it quick before the entire world wakes up.
And that's why it's so important that things like Breitian and everything you do to bring this to the people.
Everyone can read this book, and when you read it, you'll know that it's not just me.
In Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s beautiful foreword, he talks about decades, you know, from Ronald Goldman and shutting him down in the chickenpox vaccines all the way back to, you know, polio vaccines.
We think about what happened to You know, Dr.
Suzanne Humphreys, and we share in this book, we talk about similar things where her life was threatened four or five years ago, and you and she revealed how our Federal Bureau investigation, the FBI, participated in saying, oh, she's just bringing an anti-vax method.
A message to the world.
And she literally set up this thing that threatened her life.
And I remember writing you saying, Mike, never, never, never show up and meet with the FBI without an attorney, a criminal attorney, because they will turn it around in you.
And we have three or four chapters about the fourth times in the decades, in the nine years since I was jailed in 2011, When the FBI participated fully, all the way up until that recent talk I gave October of last year at The Truth About Cancer in Anaheim, the live event, where the title of my talk was Persecution and Corruption.
And I walked through everything about how the media, the fake science news, that our journals, that the premier journal in the world, Science, And the other in the UK nature, that they literally participated not only in commissioning fraud by Dr.
Fauci, but in editorializing such that they sent messages everywhere to tell scientists, if they dare look there, if they dare discuss these topics, scientists and doctors, then their lives are over essentially too.
If not suicided, their career is over.
That's...
I can't tell you how many times I've heard similar things.
I want to ask you about Dr.
Fauci and how dangerous it is that Trump seems to be listening to him for the moment.
But first, you know, I did a film a few years ago called BioSludged, and that film documented another scientist who was an EPA scientist.
I'm not going to mention his name here, but when he...
Showed to the EPA that it's dangerous to concentrate raw human sewage and spread it on food farms, which is what's happening all across America.
The EPA sent armed federal agents to his house in the middle of the night to drag him out of his house and threaten his life if he continued to talk about this, and then they pulled all his funding and shut down his lab and ostracized him from the industry.
It's very similar to the thing that they did to you, and this happens all across the EPA, the FDA, the CDC, you know, Emory, you name it.
It is a fascist, Nazi-like regime of anti-science criminals parading around as if they're the science angels.
Correct, and that's what's so difficult.
Yes, in his book, Science for Sale, exactly, we were writing our first book, Plague, when we learned of This other courageous man who whistle blew against the EPA. So I learned right then the depth and the breadth of this plague of corruption when I learned about William Thompson when I saw what happened to Jeff Bradstreet.
Yes, they'll come into your house.
They'll drag you.
It really doesn't matter who you are.
There's an entire chapter about, you know, not only stolen identities, but the dangers of being a scientist.
And the first chapter in the book is Scientists at Sea, because before they arrested me and captured me, I escaped on our boat and got to my friend's boat on the water because my friend reminded me they can't take you off international waters, so I was safe there for a few days.
I guess I could have kept sailing, but I thought, oh, well, my husband found a lawyer, and this was just a civil lawsuit, and of course I'd done nothing wrong.
And within a week's time, you know, our house was surrounded, and it was pretty sure I was never going to get out of that again.
This is what people need to understand, is that the science establishment linked to big pharma and the vaccine industry runs Stasi-like Execution squads or intimidation squads, they kill people, they intimidate people, they threaten people, they drag people out of their homes.
One of the reasons, as you probably know, I've done thousands of hours of combat training with Navy SEALs and so on, is that if they come to me, I'm going to make them pay a price.
They're going to pay in blood if they come to my house and try to drag me away.
I'm going to take a few with me.
But not everybody is set up to do that, and this is...
You know, an evil criminal cartel of violent, anti-human criminals, and one of them is in the White House.
And his name, in my opinion, he's one of these criminals, Dr.
Fauci.
He's at the ear of Trump.
How dangerous is that, in your opinion, to our society today?
And should Dr.
Fauci be arrested and prosecuted for crimes against humanity?
Maybe that's a leading question, but you can dismiss it if you want.
But what's your opinion?
No, it's not a question.
For me, it's a statement I've been making for at least the last six weeks since early January when we could start to see what was going to happen with this.
Yes, absolutely.
Not only Dr.
Fauci, but Dr.
Redfield, Dr.
Birx, they committed crimes against humanity.
With what they did to the HIV infected and driving the AIDS epidemic and preventing the treatments from getting to them, the diagnostics from getting there, just as they're preventing the appropriate diagnostics from getting in this situation.
They're doing the same thing as they spread this around the world.
They spread HIV around the world with the hepatitis B vaccine.
Again, spearing people into taking it in the susceptible population.
They should have been arrested for crimes against humanity a decade ago, but certainly now.
Do you believe that the coronavirus vaccine will spread the infection?
Do you believe that that would be an inadvertent thing or that it is an engineered thing?
I not only believe that the coronavirus vaccine would spread the infection, I absolutely know there's data that the coronavirus vaccine Would kill those who are already immune, that is, those who have already developed antibodies through mechanisms that include things like immunologists, and certainly Dr.
Fauci knows about what we call ADCC, antibody-dependent cytotoxicity.
But even more important...
Even more important, the flu vaccines, the influenza vaccines that they continue to push, did and will continue to spread coronavirus infections around the world and drive this pandemic.
But seriously, we won't have to worry about the infected because those who receive that coronavirus vaccine, if they've already been exposed and made antibodies and are immune compromised, they will die the next time.
So you just said something there that's a bombshell.
I wanted to address it.
Are you saying that the flu vaccines contain something in the family of coronaviruses or that they contain this particular strain, this Wuhan coronavirus?
What exactly are you saying there?
Well, even if they do, so the flu viruses contain coronaviruses because the flu vaccines contain coronaviruses because they're grown in either chicken eggs, bird cells containing bird proteins and bird viral nucleic acids, Including all animals have coronavirus, so including coronaviruses.
And particularly that vaccine used in Italy is grown in a cell line called Maiden Darby kidney cells, which is a dog cell line.
And dogs have a lot of different strains of coronaviruses.
So it doesn't have to be SARS-CoV-2, and I'm not saying that at all.
But if you've made a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 and you've already developed an antibody, so because they contain that and they're a vaccine, you will develop immune responses against those coronaviruses, and that will act as if you'd been exposed before and drive the disease,
as we've seen in the vaccine development for SARS and MERS. That's If you've been exposed before, the next exposure creates quite a problem.
Even influenza alone, it's another family of upper respiratory infections.
They're live attenuated vaccines with three to four different strains of Usually the influenza A, B and whatever the strain of the year is.
But in the Tetra, in the one in Italy, it also had H1N1. Well, sometimes that will happen that the immune response to the influenza will protect against an exposure to another upper respiratory infection.
But in the case of coronaviruses, in the case of SARS-CoV-2, we know absolutely it will drive the disease and you have an increased risk.
Say 36% was the single paper that was done in 2017 and 18.
So knowing that, why would our government, this is how you know it's evil and corruption.
Why would Robert Redfield continue to say that even in next year?
Oh, get it earlier, folks.
Get it at the end of the summer.
Why would Tony Fauci say it in the beginning?
Because they know we've been held down a long time.
And if they don't let us go, some people who have to make a living.
And it's going to be the parts of our societies who are most vulnerable to injury.
The blacks, the military workers, the health care workers.
Like me, who have been exposed to these for many years.
So the heavily vaccinated, the parents who have to work and can't afford to stay home and homeschool their children, they will be the ones to take the hit.
And that is really genocide.
And that's why it's a holocaust.
So they're really, they are setting up a second death wave.
And I remember, I think it was a New York Times tweet or article early on in February that said, everybody get the flu shot, it will protect you from the coronavirus.
I was like, what?
What are you talking about?
They were just using this to promote the flu shot.
But my next real question to you, though, is then wouldn't this...
See, I've always been a little confused about the specificity of the antibody tests and the specificity of the PCR replication genetic test.
And it seems like what you're saying would flag a large number of false positives.
And we know that some antibody tests, of course, have false negatives as well.
Speak to the accuracy of these tests.
Many come from China, which we know they're bogus.
It's almost like China's trying to cause chaos.
What's the deal with all the antibody tests?
Well, with all the antibody tests, first the PCR testing was never meant for diagnostics.
And those, the reagents were contaminated at the CDC. The FDA uncovered this, of course.
That wasn't told to anybody.
So the PCR tests say nothing about your exposure.
But the antibody tests, importantly, they're just looking at conserved regions.
They call them epitopes.
So coronaviruses all have those conserved immunogenic regions.
So yes, they could be false positives because they're picking up some of these other vaccines from flu vaccines for many years past.
And we'd know that if it were an IgG, but the good news is that's a memory response.
And so again, the last thing you would do is inject and inoculate.
You would be possibly protected from a natural exposure.
The viruses, coronaviruses, don't go through dry air.
And so this whole six-foot rule is crazy.
They go through water droplets.
They have to be in sneeze, in cough.
So wearing the mask is protecting nobody, especially if you're a healthy person.
And so nothing, as we see people, I'm pointing to the beach out here, as we see people on the beach running with a mask, they're actually...
Crippling their own immune system.
They're protecting no one.
They're hurting themselves.
Coronaviruses aren't going through dry air.
It's not how they transmit.
They transmit in water droplets.
And I have that in one of the slideshows that I have shown around the world on the truth about vaccines a week or so ago.
And we keep trying to explain to people this is how they transmit.
And so again, the masks are no good.
There's no reason to wear a mask other than to hurt yourself.
And if you get that flu vaccine, you're going to be amplifying the live attenuated influenza to you, back to you.
You're still shedding it and making people sick with the influenza.
But more importantly, you're doing huge amplified damage to your own immune system if you wear a mask.
I think this is one of the areas that probably gets you censored the most.
And actually, you and I disagree on the mask issue.
Not outdoors, but in indoor environments and shared indoor spaces.
You know, I've been an advocate of masks.
But your argument makes sense to me, especially outdoors.
And it's also, you know, people need sunshine.
People need to exercise.
If obesity is a comorbidity factor and everybody's stuck in their own homes just getting fatter and fatter by the day, collecting government checks to order Oreo cookies on Amazon, I mean, you know, this is not a good national health care policy.
Right, right.
And we don't actually disagree all that much because indoors, if you're sick, And you're taken care of, let's just say my husband, who's 81 years old and has COPD. If I were actually coughing, I'm coughing, but that's from my congenital lung disease.
That's why I don't want to wear a mask.
But if I'm coughing, I'm actually have flu-like symptoms and I'm sniffly and runny nose.
It's good for me when I take care of my husband to wear a mask or, you know, wash my hands a lot when I prepare food.
But for our own, when we're healthy, both of us are far healthier inside because we are constricted in our lung.
He has COPD. I have congenital kind of pleurisy that I was born with.
We always cough, my twin and I. And I always, just to add to what you just said, I always think, you know, the establishment, their argument is going to be that anyone who doesn't take a vaccine is irresponsible, or anyone who doesn't wear a mask is irresponsible.
But what about the nutrition component?
What about someone who takes vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc, they live a healthy lifestyle, they don't live on junk food and inflammatory foods, And as a result, they have lower inflammation markers, let's say, throughout their body.
A lot less likely to be infected with something that attaches to an ACE2 receptor in lung tissue.
A lot less likely to transmit something to someone else.
I mean, there are many ways to be responsible with health.
Don't be obese.
Don't be on blood pressure medications, right?
The only thing we're told by the establishment is vaccines, And masks and remdesivir.
You know, it's like, this is your whole universe?
Right.
Exactly.
And all of them point to their conflicts of interest.
And all of them point to, like you say, we're irresponsible.
Well, you're criminal.
You know, you're criminal for saying this.
Irresponsible?
You know, I made some little labels and tags that actually said, I don't have to wear a mask.
A lung disease.
You can't ask me what it is.
The American Disabilities Act and the HIPAA, the Privacy Protection Act, and all those benefits that ACT UP and the advocates in HIV AIDS got to us, says none of these things are legal.
There's nothing legal about forcing us and we're not irresponsible.
And we just simply go in and say, thank you very much for protecting my health.
And I don't think, I basically just, I'm not going to go into the hate thing.
We encourage people all we can.
If you're more comfortable with the mask, that's fine.
I'm not going to say anything, but...
Individual freedoms and irresponsibility, as you said.
I'm out in the sunshine trying to keep myself well, trying to ride my bike.
I take my husband out and we breathe fresh air and we eat clean food.
I mean, what is it that the farmers markets are closed down so that we can only get GMO? We can only eat Roundup.
up.
We can only eat processed food, which I never do.
So I don't have a trouble not going into that grocery store.
And I tell people, hey, you know what, you know, we don't go into their grocery store and you're going to be healthier and go into the small markets, which we do around our area of genuine people selling clean, healthy food that's organic, that's certified, that's free.
We can all, as a movement, be responsible together, and that's what we do.
Hug people in...
In public, peaceably assemble in public.
I mean, that an 81-year-old man can't sit down in the beach.
If he might get tired or get pulled off by an armed guard, that's martial law.
That doesn't have anything to do with that man's health, and that's irresponsible.
We're coming up on just the last few minutes of this interview.
I'll just add a short personal story.
I used to train in Brazilian jiu-jitsu, which is...
You know, hand-to-hand combat.
You're on the ground a lot.
You're rolling with other people on mats and such.
I had to give it up because I got...
After one session, one particular session, I got very symptomatic.
I realized I had really contracted some toxins from somebody that I was rolling around with.
You know, there's no way that you can, you can't wear a mask and gloves and a bodysuit doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
You would both die from, you know, heat.
But I can't trust other people to have a healthy lifestyle.
So if I'm in the grocery store, And there's people who aren't wearing masks there.
Maybe some of them are healthy.
Maybe some of them are horribly unhealthy.
And maybe they're intravenous drug users.
And they eat junk food.
And they're just like a walking time bomb of viruses.
I wish there were a way to tell the difference.
That's all.
Well, I think you actually can tell the difference because a healthy person walking through the grocery store, again, isn't coughing.
So a healthy person has no lesions on their skin.
Really, when you feel that bad, you really aren't But if they are coughing, we've always been, hey, wash your hands.
But in fact, those sprays that they're spraying on everything, these viruses don't live on cardboard.
So by spraying these very toxic cleansers and then you're concentrating as you're breathing in toxins, that makes my throat raw.
I know even breathing these perfume trash bags and all this toxic stuff, That they're putting on the things.
That's a little bit worse and your eyes will start watering.
So I prefer the love approach and loving people.
And I think in general, meaning not that you don't, you love people because you do this the last decades longer than I have even been aware.
I just think that good, smiling, healthy people, people appreciate it.
I don't go shopping when I'm sick and neither does my husband.
We wouldn't put anybody at risk and I'm not.
Now, as I'm on the streets with riding my bicycle, how could I be hurting anybody?
And again, that's, you know, out at an outdoor farmer's market.
I can't buy food.
Outdoor Farmers Market is the best place to buy food.
It's the safest place, right?
Okay, last question.
I know, I know.
That's what's insane.
Last question for you.
So there's been a split even in independent media about interpretations of what's happening with this pandemic and so on.
I've been very heavily criticized for just saying that this virus is real, you know, that it's engineered or that people are dying and so on.
Have you found...
I mean, there's a group of people that say there are no such things as any viruses, that all infectious diseases are caused by, you know, 5G or electromagnetism or whatever.
There's another spectrum of people saying nobody's really dying from this.
How do you navigate all the conflicting information that's out there right now?
Well, I agree with you completely.
There is absolutely a dangerous coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2.
Clearly, it evolved in part by going through laboratory tissue.
Clearly, there are some strains that even contain HIV. There's absolutely a dangerous virus out there.
And there always are.
I always think about the 2014 Ebola outbreak in Liberia.
So that killed 21,000 people.
But when you shut it down with the appropriate procedures, like stopping travel, which President Trump did in the beginning, and then Tony Fauci said, oh, open everything up, you don't have to do that.
Tony Fauci said wearing a mask will immune suppress and immune compromise.
Don't do that.
It doesn't do anything to prevent the spread.
Other people.
So then we waffle and then we change.
So it's in that particular case that, They're driving this beyond.
It's clear that the death rate of, even though it's a dangerous virus, I won't say that it's not a dangerous virus, I know that, but how it's spread around the world by inappropriate use of other vaccines, how it's spread across the world by travel, by spreading even the cell lines and growing these viruses, you know, coronaviruses in these animal cells.
They're the same We grow our vaccines in.
If they aerosol them in the large vats that we make vaccines, God only knows what happens on any given week.
That was one of the very more important discoveries we made in 2011.
Every single production can cause the evolution of new pathogenic strains.
But we can use the appropriate health measures, and principally it's going to be don't get any other vaccines until they're tested safe, until the animal tissue, because it's the xenotransplantation, the mixing, the injection of all of this animal tissue that is driving the disease.
And the ones with the most injections, those with asthma, 50% of our children, those with other...
Microvasculature diseases.
Those are the victims.
And I won't say that, you know, clearly things like glyphosate and 5G put people at risk of more disease, but a healthy immune system that's not injected and that's not infected with expressive viruses simply don't have a problem.
8% of our genome is a virome, meaning crippled or dormant viruses.
That's how our immune system clears.
And then it knows if it sees it again and it says, I remember that.
Well, there's no memory generated by any vaccine for any of these live viral vaccines.
That's why we keep, everybody says, what about polio?
I Nope, doesn't work.
The only polio in this country every year is caused by the polio vaccine.
So what did the CDC do?
Oh, they changed the name to acute flaccid myelitis because it's not that strain of enterovirus.
So we see the same plague of corruption over and over in the messaging to the people.
So yes, there's dangerous viruses out there and it's only going to get worse.
But the last thing we ever want to do is vaccinate.
We want to end the vaccine program.
I said five-year moratorium.
Five-year moratorium until they're tested safe.
Not a single safety study has been done in 36 years.
Test the combination.
Test what you're giving.
The way I would test the drugs I've developed for 30 or 40 years.
In double-blind, placebo-controlled studies, do the vaxxed, unvaxxed studies.
And what you're going to get at that end of that five years is you're going to see people are healthy.
You're going to see we don't have to worry about the pandemic du jour.
We don't have to think about it because we're not participating.
We've got God-given health, beautiful food, as we're discussing.
We know how toxic GMOs are.
We can keep these out of our lives.
We can go back to...
exercising and taking care of ourselves and have a whole new world of health we never realized before, and that'll end these plandemics forever.
A very inspiring and appropriate message.
Thank you so much, Dr.
Judy Mikovits.
Your book is Plague of Corruption.
It's available at plaguethebook.com.
And let me just add, personally, I think that It would be a great world if President Trump would have Dr.
Fauci arrested and award you the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
How about that?
I think the world owes you an apology.
I think you are a courageous voice for humanity.
And I think that you are being silenced precisely because you allow humanity to reconnect with who we are and what we're here for.
And I thank you for everything that you're doing.
I thank you for your courage.
And I invite you, you can come on anytime.
Love to do a follow-up interview with you in a few weeks and explore what's happening at that time.
So thank you so much for your time today.
Thank you so much, Mike.
I would love to come back anytime, as you know.
Okay, take care, Judy.
It's great to talk with you and blessings to you.
And I hope your book does extraordinarily well and angers the science establishment.
So thank you so much.
Thanks so much, Mike.
It already has.
Right.
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