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April 22, 2022 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Dr. Paul Cottrell talks coronavirus solutions with Mike Adams (interview)
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Welcome, everyone.
Today we have a very special guest, someone I've never interviewed before, but who was incredibly intriguing in a recent interview he did with Stefan Molyneux.
His name is Dr.
Paul Cottrell, and he is a financial analyst.
He's an expert in chaos theory.
He's extremely brilliant.
I'll just say it.
Your words were intriguing to me, Dr.
Cottrell, and so I wanted to have you on.
Thank you for joining us today.
We're going to talk about many things, including finance, liberty, and coronavirus.
Thank you for having me, Mike.
I've been a fan of yours for a long time.
When you had your channel on YouTube.
I did not know that.
I've been following you for many years.
I've been trying to bring some of that natural remedy into my life to boost my health.
I appreciate it.
Well, that was the other thing that really intrigued me.
In the interview with Stefan Molyneux, you were offering some very well-educated and thoughtful analysis of perhaps where this is going, but also you mentioned your specific health protocol, which I would definitely like to get into for the benefit of all our listeners here.
But since perhaps some of our listeners and readers aren't familiar with your work, could you give us just a little intro of your background and how you got to where you are now, please?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, I was born and raised in Michigan.
I was an automotive engineer.
My undergrad was in management and engineering.
I got an MBA in finance.
When I received my MBA, that was in 2008.
That was during the Lehman crash.
I wanted to get into trading.
I wanted to get out of automotive engineering.
We moved to New York, right in the middle of the crisis while everyone was leaving New York.
And it's been a great experience, actually.
But as I was managing portfolios, I was getting more and more interested in coding and algorithmic trading and the artificial intelligence side of that.
So I decided to get a PhD in finance that was focused on algorithmic trading, the oil markets and the currency markets.
So that was kind of like my specialty.
And then during that process, my brother passed away from heart disease.
So this is part of the reason why I kind of so focused on health.
Because heart disease runs...
So to go on with that, so I decided to pursue medicine.
So I finished my pre-med program at Fordham University.
That's in New York.
I would say it's the second best pre-med in New York City.
Following that, finishing up a master's in biology at Harvard University.
I'm working the tail end of that.
I've applied and been accepted to medical school already.
I also, just for fun, because I like learning, I have two engineering certificates from MIT. So I have a lot to offer here because I see this problem in many different pillars.
It's the scientific pillar, it is the financial pillar, and it is the civil liberties pillar here.
So...
Well, this makes perfect sense.
This explains so much about why you've been really spot on, I believe, in your analysis.
We've seen many people who are, for example, just straight-up economists who don't understand virology or epidemiology or even exponential trend lines, for example.
And they say, well, this virus is no big deal.
And if you ask them why, and they say, well, it hasn't yet killed as many people as the flu.
So, you know, you see this very limited viewpoint of an economist who doesn't understand, no, we're on a track here.
Bro, this track, here's where this track goes because the rest of us can actually do, you know, virology type of mathematics and so on.
But anyway, so you bring together this synthesis that I think is crucial to have a good solid analysis of where we are and where we're going.
So let's start with that.
Where do you think we are right now In America, I mean, we're at over 76,000 confirmed infections, 1,100 deaths in the United States today, half a million confirmed infections around the world at the moment.
So where do you think we are now?
And roughly, where do you think we're going?
I know it depends on how we respond.
I know that.
I'm not asking you to make an August prediction that's too far out here, but give us your best take, please.
Well, I've been found on this since January 25th, all right?
And I'm very concerned What the scientific literature is showing, that there are multiple receptors involved with the spike protein for this virus.
What that basically means to the average listener is that this can lose function in its primary receptor and gain function in other receptors.
I call it pinballing.
It can go back and forth.
It can lose function and gain function.
Where we're at right now, We're just over half a million people infected worldwide, right?
And we have 23,000 individuals that have passed away.
Now, I've been kind of focused on the United States in the last week and a half or so.
And we have roughly 75,000 cases confirmed.
We have a lot more because we're just starting the testing, right?
And we have over 1,000 cases that passed away in the United States.
A big chunk of that, of the cases confirmed, are in New York City.
That's over 20,000.
And 280 deaths.
I've been on Doug Hagman's show twice since this outbreak.
I made a startling prediction here.
It is assuming that the secondary and the tertiary waves are going to be as virulent as the primary wave and that it will last for 18 to 20 months.
Assuming that social distancing doesn't really cut it down and the hydroxychloroquine doesn't work or remdesphere or some other antiviral I believe within that 20-month period that 165 million people in the United States,
I'm not talking about why, I'm talking just in the United States, because of the comorbidity or the health conditions that we have in the United States, a lot of people are unhealthy, a lot of people are elderly, they will contract COVID-19.
The far majority, it will not be a death sentence.
It will be a bad cold, something like that.
But about 27 million people in this 20-month period possibly would be in ICU or need ICU. About 25% of those, which is about 6.8, 6.9 million people, could die from complications, and that's the key word, from complications of COVID-19.
Because there's a lot of heart disease.
My brother died from it.
There's a lot of pulmonary issues.
My mother has COPD. If she gets this, probably because she has very bad COPD. Long-term smoker that never quit.
If she got it, probably in three days she could die.
A lot of people that are Gen Xers have parents still alive in their 70s.
That are prime targets of this.
So this is why the numbers that I'm providing are so stark.
But there is some hope.
And that hope is if people...
If we can cut down the transmission rate, this R-naught value, to something more manageable instead of 4 or 6, something 1 or less, then...
These numbers will drastically go down.
But I'm concerned because everyone is heard in the news.
We're in shelter in place now in New York and in many other areas.
Pennsylvania is one.
California is one.
I'm not sure about Texas yet.
But many areas are in shelter in place.
But that allows individuals in New York to congregate.
And it happened last weekend where they were all congregating in Central Park.
People were spreading it.
If we just listened and just sat at home for a good 24 days, we would slow this down.
It won't cure it, but it'll slow it down drastically.
I'm concerned about the egocentricism, but that's where I'm seeing it right now.
You know, that's a really good point.
I wanted to ask you about that, too.
We have such an attitude of individualism in the United States, which is part of our liberty culture, and yet I always say, you know, your freedoms come with a sense of responsibility, or they should if you act like an adult.
That is, since we have a communicable disease, we must have a community cognizant response.
We have to be aware of others, and we can't just say, oh, I have the right to go party I mean, yeah, you have the right, but you have a responsibility to not kill other people, right?
And that's a big part of this, and we're seeing really a lot of Right now, a lot of resistance, especially, interestingly, among the pro-Trump, more pro-conservative side of the political spectrum, there seems to be a strong consensus that this is no worse than the flu, which I find baffling, just baffling.
But that is emerging.
I'm watching it.
What are you seeing?
Right.
No, I totally agree with you.
From a New York perspective, A lot of people are transient in New York.
They get their degree, they come, they think they're going to make it big in New York, and they notice about two and a half years, three years later, they can't, and they go back to mommy.
The younger generation doesn't have that stick-to-it-ness, that grit.
There is a self-centeredness.
I'm concerned.
There's been a lot of people that left in New York because they knew it was going to be locked down.
This happened about two weeks ago.
People were taking their big luggages and leaving New York.
This has a harboring of 24, maybe even all the way up to 37 or 40 days before showing symptoms.
You could be asymptomatic and still have it.
When they go home, A certain percentage of those are spreading the disease to their family members.
So they think, oh, I'll be okay.
I don't feel sick.
So they don't understand the science that, yes, you can be contagious and asymptomatic, especially coming from a huge epicenter like New York.
I'm concerned that New York ends up being a Wuhan.
Oh, I think it's clearly, it's almost there now, I would say.
Two or three weeks, that's where it's going to be, I would imagine.
But you bring up something.
You mentioned the asymptomatic carriers.
Now, as you are well aware, I'm sure, the current testing recommendations in the United States by the CDC, as well as President Trump himself, say that no one should be tested unless they actively show symptoms.
Also, as I'm sure you're aware, the countries that have a good handle on this, that have kept the spread to more of a linear function rather than quadratic, let's say, they have done very aggressive testing of asymptomatic members of the public.
They've done good contact tracing, and they've been able to isolate very quickly and effectively.
It's my belief, and I want to ask you if you believe this or if you have a different view, it's my belief we will never, we will never contain this in the United States unless we start testing everybody, including asymptomatic people, for this very reason.
What's your take on that?
I totally agree with you.
And, you know, just full disclosure, I am a Trump supporter.
I was right when he decided to run for president.
I stuck with him thick and thin.
And I will, you know, I will vote for Trump, you know, next election.
So it's not like someone might say, oh, he may be against Trump.
There are a few things about Trump that I feel that he dropped the ball on.
He's patting himself on the back in terms of shutting down travel.
I think it was a little too late and not enough.
We could have shut down everything and not have those cruise ships coming in.
But he decided that the economy was more important at that time.
So I think that was a failure at the CDC level and some of his advisors with that.
Now, in terms of trying to test everybody, I don't think we have enough kits yet.
But Governor Cuomo, who I'm not a big fan of, But he's the governor of New York, Democrat.
But he has mentioned two things that I think are very important, and he's doing right.
And he said, test, test, test, to flatten the curve, and we have to build up capacity for the ICU beds.
So the Javits Center, this is like a big convention center, that's starting to turn into a triage center.
So there's these different communities in New York City that were building up these triage centers.
And the sad thing is, at Bellevue Hospital, they are already putting outside tents for morques because of the death rates that are starting to increase with refrigerators.
So, I mean, it's getting...
It's getting real.
Individuals that say this is just the regular flu, you don't do this for the regular flu.
It's getting real here.
Absolutely.
It was easy for people in the United States, I believe, to ignore this when it was just Wuhan, and then it was just Asia, and then it was just Europe.
This kind of thing.
Oh, it's not here yet.
No one that I know has died.
I heard that from many, many people.
I've never seen anyone die from this.
You know, my answer was, well, just wait.
Just wait about 45 days and you will start to see that.
So it's now very difficult to ignore in the United States.
Three U.S. states, as of yesterday, called for FEMA to send emergency mortuary assistance response teams called DMORT. And also, I have a source that told me that there are There's a surge of orders for reefer trucks, refrigerated cooling trucks to carry dead bodies, which means that these dead are going to be processed somewhere, perhaps cremated.
That seems to make the most sense from a virology point of view, cremated somewhere.
So we're literally talking about a scenario in America where we will have mass cremations of people dying from coronavirus.
That's not a conspiracy theory.
That is actually 30 days away or less, maybe next week.
I think what's going to happen and what is needed, all right, and it hurts my soul actually to say this, all right, because, you know, I'm Jewish and I through, you know, I've heard stories of great grand uncles, you know, great uncles that, you know, actually, you know, went through the Holocaust and had the tattoo.
So, I mean, so it bothers me to hear cremation.
It hurts the soul.
But it's almost needed to make sure that we stop the transmission because they did that in the Black Plague.
They burnt the bodies.
They burnt all of the materials that that person touched.
And it kills the virus.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
And what also is important is getting those tissue samples, the pathology of this, to understand really what's going on at the cellular level.
And how this is progressing, because I believe what's happening here is that different cohorts of patients, it's going to be affecting differently, not just in terms of age, but also in ethnicity, and in terms of upregulation of different types of receptors.
Because my concern here is that we'll get past this 20-month But in five years, ten years, this thing's going to ramp up again when it gains function.
We're never going to get rid of this.
The question is, will it stay attenuated, weak enough, where we can live with it without it destroying our economy and destroying our lives?
You mentioned pinballing.
I'd like to ask you to speak a little bit more to that, but this virus right now has three different types of spike protein molecules that can fit specific receptors in the human body, although I think only one is currently being expressed in most of the infections, the ACE2. Is that correct?
Okay, so for the actual virus, it's a SARS virus, actually.
So SARS-CoV-2.
Is the virus.
And the disease is COVID-19.
Okay?
So there's a spike protein.
It's called the S-protein in the genome.
And that spike protein has topology.
It has certain charges, as you know, with amino acids, there's different charges.
And those charges and topology will fit certain receptors.
The main receptor is the ACE2 receptor.
And there's a lot of them in our lung tissue, in the air sacs.
There's two main receptors.
Cells in the air sac.
It's the AT2 cell that actually has the primary ACE2 receptor.
But cardiac tissue has it.
Liver tissue has it.
Kidney tissue has it.
Our blood vessels have it.
So there's lots of systems in our body, lots of different tissue systems that use ACE2. ACE2 helps maintain blood pressure through the renin-angiotensin-2, that's ACE2, angiotensin-2 aldosterone pathway.
So this might be one of the mechanisms, not the only mechanism, one of the mechanisms on why people were just dropping.
Their blood pressure couldn't be maintained through that pathway, and they just dropped.
Another is that it may be affecting the myocardium because ACE2 is also there and the heart stops.
There seems to be some evidence that it's affecting the vagus nerve.
The vagus nerve innervates the heart, the lungs, a lot of your automatic systems that you don't even have to think about it, involuntary systems.
So ACE2 is a very important receptor, but there are four other receptors that have come out since February 24th or so.
They are the GRP78, which is a chaperone receptor that if you are stressed, if the cell is stressed, it will upregulate and move to the surface of the cell, the cell membrane.
There is something called CD147, and also two other receptors called DC-sine and L-sine.
Respectively, DC-sine is also called CD209, and L-sine is CD299. But explain these to the audience.
What do these mean?
Okay, so CD... The CD209 are on macrophages, so this part of your immune system.
And this is where the HIV homology is important.
The CD299 is also on AT2 cells, which are in the air sac, but they're also in lymph nodes.
So the glycoprotein 120 is the spike protein of HIV. There was four inserts from HIV-1, which is a type of HIV. And I've proved and made videos on this that show where they are in the genome of this coronavirus that's infecting us right now, this SARS-CoV-2.
Three inserts in the spike protein part of the genome.
Are from glycoprotein 120, which is the spike protein of HIV. And there is one insert that is from HIV GAG, which helps with assembling the capsid, the shell.
This helped create, the GAG protein helped create a cleavage point For the spike protein.
So the spike protein, as it's being coded from the genome, it makes a series of amino acids.
But a lot of times when proteins are created, they're inactive.
They have to be activated somehow.
A lot of times they're cleaved.
They're modified.
They have to be folded.
So furrin is a particular cleavage protein, a protease, that...
That cleaves the actual GAG insertion and increases its virulence.
All right?
So the furrin goes to the GAG insertion, the HIV GAG that's in this coronavirus, cuts it.
So you had these S1 subunit, S2 subunit.
They're cut, they fold, and then now you have a more virulent spike protein.
Now, for the different receptors, I'm concerned that one of the major receptors, not only, but one of the major receptors that HIV, the glycoprotein 120,
attaches to is L-sine, the CD299. I'm concerned that That we're going to lose affinity for ACE2 and become more and more, have more and more affinity towards the DC sign and L sign receptors.
What are the physiological implications then?
Well, it will affect our immune system.
And we already have cases where white blood cell counts are going down, where the presenting T cell cells are actually downregulated.
Would it be a stretch to call this something like airborne AIDS, or is that going too far?
I don't want to say that because the ones that aren't, let's say, as initiated in the scientific realm will interpret that.
Way too far.
Because when I say HIV homology, people say, oh, coronavirus is AIDS. No, it's not AIDS. HIV is a retrovirus.
Coronaviruses are not retroviruses.
But what we do have is little pieces of HIV genome in our spike protein for this coronavirus.
But people, you know, they extrapolate, oh, that means you're going to get AIDS. No, that's not what we're saying.
Right, right, right.
Okay, let me ask you this, then.
Let's go back to the ACE2 receptor sites, because that's what's active in the current morphology of the viral strain that's circulating.
Now, I want to ask you about your estimate of Interaction with blood pressure medications.
Now, we have, according to the American Heart Association, 100 million Americans have high blood pressure.
I don't know how many are treated with high blood pressure medications, but surely it's tens of millions in the United States because that's pushed very aggressively by the doctors.
There is a lot of research about two classes of blood pressure drugs that already have very, very high stroke risk increase and can kill people for other reasons.
And then there was a small study, I believe it was out of Italy recently, that showed 76% of those who died from coronavirus had a comorbidity of arterial hypertension.
So, my question to you is, aside from the hypertension itself, is it possible that people who are on blood pressure drugs, is that helping them or hurting them?
Could it create even more risk?
I think that it is creating more risk, but it depends on how their blood pressure is being controlled.
A lot of people that are on statins That's reducing the cholesterol.
And that causes a whole bunch of other issues, as you know.
Cholesterol is a major molecule that is needed for all of our hormones.
So if you're down-regulating the production of cholesterol, even though you may be lowering your blood pressure, you're causing a whole bunch of other problems with the endocrine system.
But there are these ACE inhibitors to control.
Remember what I said, that the...
The renin-angiotensin-aldosterone pathway helps raise blood pressure.
So if your blood pressure is being controlled by a medication that is using that pathway or other pathways that are similar, and you are infected with a virus that's affecting that, you can have these wild swings in maintaining homeostasis.
So yes, you could go into pericardia or tachycardia.
So tachycardia is boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then pericardia is slower.
So depending on the pathways, what types of medications, because there's many different types of heart disease, right?
So depending on what pathway and what medications you're on, it will cause an issue with your homeostasis while you're on your medication.
So that's why There's been cases where if you get COVID-19 disease and you're diabetic, or you have heart disease, or if you have kidney dysfunction, or stroke, you could have heart failure very quickly.
I mean, there's these cases where...
They drop dead very quickly.
And that's where I'm concerned with individuals, because we're Gen X, parents that are in their 70s or 80s, that our parents, they have a high chance of having this heart failure.
Yes, yes.
And, you know, there's a lot of talk right now about, oh, how we need to bring the pharmaceutical industry back to America so we can make these drugs here, and yet I keep trying to point out, well, why don't we teach the American people to not need the drugs?
Eat healthier, you know, fruits and vegetables.
If you're on a blood pressure medication, Really, from a holistic health point of view, it's supposed to be a temporary stopgap measure until you change your lifestyle so that you no longer need the meds.
But many doctors today, most I would say, are being told, no, you treat for a lifetime, you manage the symptoms, You alter the biomarkers with a statin drug or a depression drug or a blood pressure drug because the patient will not change.
And maybe that's largely true that most patients will not change, but shouldn't we at least try to teach them to change their lives and not need the medication so much?
Exactly, exactly.
Like, for example, I'll be anecdotal for a second, and that way the listeners will maybe take to heart.
My father's in his 76, 77, and he's in pretty good shape.
He does have high blood pressure, and he's taken a statin.
He's been taking it for about 15 years.
I'm starting to see the effects of that statin on his neurological function.
He doesn't remember as well as he used to.
With my mother, heart disease runs rampant in her family.
She had her first heart attack when she was 40 years old, and she has five stints.
Now, my brother died at age 35 from a heart attack.
He had a minor heart attack, and then four weeks later, then the event that actually killed him.
I've had cousins who had triple bypass surgery at age 50.
I had two uncles.
One was 35, who died from a massive heart attack, and another uncle, who was somewhat in shape, a little overweight, but somewhat in shape, was playing with his best friend, who was a cardiologist at U of M, University of Michigan.
He was the head of cardiology, on a racquetball court, and he died on the racquetball court.
He was exercising.
And I saw that at a very young age.
I saw these deaths, and this creeping, I'll call it the creeping death, all right?
So that was part of the reason why, you know, after I passed the death zone, the 35 to 47 death, the 46-year-old death zone, I decided to, you know, pursue medicine and try to help people that were similar to my brother.
So that's where my heart is, and that's why I'm pursuing medicine.
Now, at age 16, I read a book.
I don't remember the name of the book, but I was at Borders when they had Borders until it went out of business.
I read this book, and it was about anti-aging.
It was talking about high doses of vitamin C, the beta carotenes, getting fresh water, exercise.
It was basically an antioxidant book, juicing.
It talked about juicing and stuff like that.
That was when I was 16 years old.
I'm 47.
So, you know, you can figure out, you know.
So, and ever since then, I have been a, I wouldn't say a health nut, but I've been very conscientious of maintaining a certain protocol.
And over time, through different types of technologies, and people like you and Dr.
Group, they provide New information on how to improve the protocol.
So back then, it was more the standard minerals and vitamins and exercise.
Then I started getting into the anti-inflammatory stuff, the PQQ stuff, the CoQ10, this kind of route, and the turmeric stuff.
I'll tell you what, a lot of people don't believe my age when I say I'm 47, but it's because of this.
It's because of this protocol that I... I have maintained since I was 16 years old, but have tweaked it because of people like you and Dr.
Group that have provided things that are unique, that boost up.
People don't realize we have stem cells, adult stem cells, and we have cells that will basically turn off when they divide too much.
But when you boost your immune system, And you're in this antioxidant regime, what will happen is they'll stimulate those stem cells and they'll clear out those old cells.
So when you actually do later a tissue sample, your tissue sample is younger because it's looking at the telomeres.
It's clearing out all those dead cells.
at least at the cellular level, you're actually younger because you're recycling out the bad stuff and you're upregulating those stem cells to create new tissues.
You totally get it, Dr. Pollock.
Paul.
Can I refer to you as Dr.
Paul?
Is that okay?
And I'll show you, for the viewing audience, this is what I was drinking right before I started this interview.
This is avocados, turmeric, flax seeds, goji berries, coconut water, bananas, all organic, of course, and some whey protein that we've lab tested.
And I've got to say, Dr.
Paul, what you just said really hit home.
Many people describe the work that I'm doing in my own lab with mass spec instruments and so on as PhD level work.
I don't claim to have a PhD, but it's the kind of work that I swear I could never have learned it unless I was drinking this.
This activated my brain and it allowed me to learn the sciences and learn atomic mass spectrometry and everything that goes with that and some basics of organic chemistry.
I'm not a specialist in that area.
There's no way I could run that lab unless I was drinking this for the last 10 years.
It really does make you younger.
It absolutely works.
But tell us about your specific nutrients that you're taking for the coronavirus prevention, let's say, whatever your protocol is.
And also then, what would you begin to take if you were confirmed infected that you aren't taking now?
Okay, it's first to make a disclaimer that If I was infected, which I'm not, hopefully, I would try to see a doctor first.
Yes, yes.
Because they will have stronger protease inhibitors, stronger antivirals at a higher concentration if they give it to you.
But there is high potential where you can't get to a doctor and you need to have stuff in your toolbox.
To work with.
I call it MacGyvering.
You have to MacGyver it.
If you've got a problem, you've got to play MacGyver.
So my everyday routine is when I'm well, multivitamin, a zinc supplement, an additional vitamin C,
Not to plug anybody, but I do take the turmeric that Alex Jones sells, and then the DNA force, the iodine drops, the filtered water.
I use zero water.
It's a five filtration system.
It works.
We've tested that in our lab.
It actually does go to zero, yes.
It's really good.
And then I take NMN, which is based on the research from Dr.
Sinclair.
It's from Harvard and MIT. That's one that I wasn't familiar with when you mentioned it.
Yeah, so what it does is it It improves the sirtuins, so it allows for better communication between the nucleus and the mitochondria.
And what will happen is it will upregulate and improve mitochondrial health.
See, as we get older, our mitochondria start to die out.
And we need mitochondria in all of our cells for power, but especially for neurons.
Because if you look at the tip of a neuron, which is where the synaptic clef is, there's going to be lots of mitochondria there.
So if you start to downregulate for mitochondria, the mitochondria has its own DNA.
It starts to die off, and you don't have as many.
You'll actually literally move slower because you don't have the energy because that's where your ATP is created and the electron transport chain.
So NMN is known to boost that up.
So I take that and what else?
I think that's about it.
That's about it for the everyday use.
Oh, C60 with the avocado.
And that's like my antioxidant.
Regime.
Every day.
Oh, with D3 and the K2, MK7, because they have different molecule structures, and what that will do is it'll reduce the inflammation.
It'll do two things.
One, for arteriosclerosis, it will reduce the inflammation so you don't have the plaque buildup.
Because a lot of people think it's about reducing lipids.
No, it's about reducing inflammation.
That's the key.
It's about reducing inflammation.
It's about reducing endocrine disruption and reducing inflammation.
You do that, you'll get healthier.
What about minerals?
Do you take zinc or selenium or magnesium?
I take zinc.
I do a zinc supplement.
My magnesium is part of the multivitamin.
That's basically my everyday regime.
Now, I work out.
I do some kendo, which is a martial art.
I do some weight training, not a lot, and a lot of walking because I'm in New York.
There's a lot of walking, not lately, but a lot of walking.
I used to do, when I was younger, in my 20s or 30s, I used to do triathlons.
But I found that it was building up so much inflammation, I was actually getting arthritis.
So I listened to Dr.
Group and he said, if you do D3 with calcium, My calcium increase was actually through drinking milk, 1% milk.
But what I did was low-resistance training in the arthritic areas, and I did it for seven months with very high doses of D3. D3 does deposit in your adipose tissue, so it can be toxic.
But you know where the point of toxicity is when you start getting the foggy brain.
Then you stop.
But for my body weight, I did just slightly over 20,000 individual units of D3 each day with low intensity.
And all of the arthritis after seven months went away.
Totally.
100% went away.
That's a lot of vitamin D on a daily basis.
It is.
Now, when I stopped the regime...
That protocol with the D3, I went back down to 5,000.
I do 5,000 every day.
So that's my everyday health.
Now, if I got sick...
Before you go there, let me just mention, have you looked into astaxanthin because it's a fat-soluble carotenoid that is anti-inflammatory.
It's well circulated when taken orally with fatty acids.
And it's a great complement to the anti-inflammatories that are water-soluble, such as vitamin C, that, you know, tend to flush out very quickly.
Azazanthin comes from a microalgae.
We get it from Hawaii.
It also comes out of, I think, China and Korea and some other places.
And what's interesting about astaxanthin, if you don't mind me adding this in, it's just that...
This is not a plug for astaxanthin.
I don't think we even have any left.
Because everything's sold.
But it's made by growing a green microalgae in large outdoor ponds.
And then they stress the microalgae by withholding key nutrients that the microalgae need.
But they have very strong sunlight UV radiation.
And then each...
Each organism builds a protective shell out of astaxanthin in order to survive a drought, and it's like the red stuff on the side of a lake that dried out.
A lot of that red stuff is a type of astaxanthin, and it allows the key genetic material inside the spore to survive up to, in some cases, 100 years of drought and sunlight, and then in the next rain in the desert, It reopens and it regrows itself back into the green phase of the microalgae.
So that's a little bit about astaxanthin.
I think it's one of the key nutrients for neuroprotective health.
I haven't tried it, so I'd have to look into it, but it sounds interesting.
The thing about it is that there's a lot of knowledge out there about You know, the nutraceutical or the homeopathic realm to help boost your health.
And it's not fake science.
It's not pseudoscience.
It's real science.
Yeah, well, they're real molecules, you know?
Like, you're describing the molecular structure.
And I always tell people, if you don't believe in nutrition, then you don't believe in chemistry.
Because, you know, these are molecules, and a molecule can come from a plant, it can come from a lab, it can come from biosynthesis, it can come from genetic engineering, or it could come from dirt.
You know, these molecules, they function because cause and effect functions, right?
We live in a world of cause and effect.
And, you know, atomic nuclei have functions and ionic bonds have functions, electrons work in a certain way.
You know, you can't just throw out the parts you don't want and say vitamins don't work, but drugs do.
Right, exactly.
And a lot of people say, oh, vitamins don't work.
Well, the easiest way to understand why a vitamin works is that you have enzymes and you need cofactors that attach to those enzymes so they work properly.
And if you're deprived of those, your enzyme activity is going to go down and you're not going to be as healthy.
You're not going to repair your DNA as well.
You're just not going to function as well.
So just taking a multivitamin...
We'll improve your health.
But, you know, adding all these, you know, there's a lot of chemistry that we're talking about here about, you know, down-regulating those pro-inflammatory cytokines, you know, and up-regulating those anti-inflammatory cytokines to, you know, reach a better health, you know, healthy state.
But it's also cleansing.
You know, I'm a firm believer of what Dr.
Group has been, you know, promoting on the idea of, you know, colon cleansing once a year, liver cleansing.
There's different levels of liver cleansing.
But I have found when I've done those that they help.
But, you know, you have to know what you're doing and you have to repopulate, you know, your microbiota.
You know, people don't really realize.
They think all germs are bad.
Well, no.
You have to have the right germs and the right germ levels because they help with metabolism.
We have a chemical communication with microbes.
If that's disrupted, we're not going to break down the lipids and the proteins and the carbohydrates as well.
No, there was a, you know, there are pandemic denialists out there, and one of them, many of them, actually, I've lost friends over this.
I'll just say it.
I've had to stop talking to people that I used to consider friends.
I had to cut them off from my phone.
But one of them said to me at one point, said, Well, the reason that they know this coronavirus is fake is because it's only one virus, and then they read this NIH study that said there's a million viruses in the body, so we should all be dead.
And I said, what are you thinking, man?
Almost all viruses are harmless because they don't have the spike proteins.
They don't have the function.
They don't have the genetic coding to cause the damage.
I mean, most viruses do nothing.
They're just little bits of dead code that fumble around in the world.
They do nothing.
But this is the kind of thing I hear from people who don't know.
This is the problem.
Science can get really deep.
And the devil's in the details, right?
We've heard that phrase.
That's why I was so careful on the HIV homology and how to phrase it.
Because people will jump to conclusions.
The reality of the situation is that bacteria Some bacteria, not all, but some bacteria are very beneficial to us.
If we don't have them, we die.
There's a lot of actually evolutionary biology out there that is saying that some of these big jumps in evolution with certain species were due to viral infection.
Because what happened was that reverse transcriptase...
It was integrated in the integrated genetic code into our genome and created a new function, new functionality.
It also could be detrimental.
I mean, there are Retroviruses that actually create oncogenes.
That even brings up the question of what is an organism then, because none of us are truly contained, isolated organisms.
Just a reminder, I know the audience is going to want to hear your protocol for, again, what you would do if you were infected.
In addition to visiting a doctor, what else would you have in mind?
Right.
So as you know, you've talked about it, there are a lot of compounds naturally that are in nutraceuticals or homeopathic remedies.
And there is a class of them called terpenoids and lignoids.
There was a paper that was actually published in 2007 that I dissected.
I was with a team discussing this, some chemists, and a non-profit that's in Europe.
Because we couldn't isolate the 22 compounds that were in that study.
We looked at what could an average Joe or Jane buy on the shelf that has those compounds in some amount to be able to help with this particular situation.
Now, that paper showed that terpenoids and lignoids will inhibit the protease that helps make this virus.
Now, what's nice about this is that at least with the beta, because there's different types of coronaviruses, but at least with the beta coronavirus, I don't know about alpha and I don't know about delta, but at least with the beta, which is this is what we have, the particular pandemic that we have, There is a protease called 3CL, and 3CL is conserved.
So you can have certain regions in a genome that's conserved.
So we have some genetic code that's conserved from primates that just keep on carrying on.
Well, something similar is happening with the 3CL protease.
So if you can inhibit 3CL, you can stop this or slow it down and reduce the viral load So your immune system can create natural antibodies, not fake antibodies from a lab with a vaccine, right?
Because I'm not a big fan of that.
It slows the reproduction of the virus to allow your immune system more time to beat that curve.
Basically, you have to beat that curve before the curve kills you or eats you alive.
Exactly.
It's a differential equation.
There's a rate of production of the virus and a rate of production of finding a solution through antibodies.
So you need to bring down that viral load and increase your ability To produce those antibodies.
So it's that differential equation there, the balance.
So based on that paper, we came up with a few things that people could buy.
It's not a panacea, but it's at least something to get your hands on.
So one compound could be found in forscaloin.
This actually, in the research, had the highest selectivity index, meaning that it was able to inhibit the 3CL proteasease.
And what was the phytochemical in there that was identified?
In the paper, it was labeled as compound 10.
I can give you the paper, and then it didn't say what the actual chemical compound is.
It did give the chemical structure.
So there's some software that you can do that you can draw the chemical structure and it'll spit out the name.
It didn't mention the name, actually.
It just showed the chemical structures for each of the 22 compounds.
So, that's where we had the chemists in Europe to find what is compound 10.
Where is it?
And that's what they told us.
So, borscaloan is compound 10.
All right.
Then there's another compound in Rolora.
Then there is one in birch bark, birch bark extract.
It has to be the birch bark.
I looked at that in a paper about 3CL protease inhibition as well.
And I believe that was also found in another herb in Chinese medicine as well.
Did you see that?
I don't know about the herb in Chinese medicine, but the birch bark had this compound.
Now, calendula also has compounds in it that are found in this paper.
And licorice root extract is also very good.
Absolutely.
Now, my protocol with it, by looking at the chemistry, there's hydroxy groups.
Maybe I'm getting too science-y, but with the 3Cl, you're trying to block it.
Well, that means that it has to bind.
Well, what binds really well are either hydrogen groups or electron pairs.
If you have a lot of hydroxy groups, which compound 10 has, which is the 4-scaloin, they'll lock into the 3-CL batter.
Then there's other compounds that have two lone pairs from oxygen.
Atoms that are inside that molecule that can use that to bind, because it has to share the electrons, right?
So that's also a mean.
But not just that, it's also just the topology locking it in.
But here's the unique feature.
So I wouldn't just take one.
I would stack it a certain way.
So the stacking is four scolone in the morning with the birch bark.
And you take that, let's say, in the morning, 7 a.m., and then again at 3, like 3 p.m.
At noon, you would use the calendula and the relora.
And the idea is that you're trying to increase concentrations in your cells with different chemicals that have different topologies to lock in to reduce the viral load.
Right.
You know, so there's a stacking kind of component to this.
Is Rilora, is that a prescription medication?
Or what is that?
No.
You can get that at just a nutraceutical, off-the-shelf thing.
Everything I just mentioned, you could go on Amazon and get from a health foods vendor.
Is that a brand name?
I thought that was just a trade name.
Okay, I'm not familiar with what that actually is in terms of its molecule, but I guess we'll check it out and share that with the listeners.
And also, I want to mention, I'm sure you'll appreciate me mentioning this for anybody from the FDA or FTC watching this.
We make no claims that any of these are cures or treatments specifically for this.
Nothing is proven yet.
There's no drug that's ever been proven.
There's no molecule that's been proven.
There's no vaccine that's ever been proven to treat this.
This is offered to try to help save lives in rational ways that may help people boost their own response to this so that we can reduce the spread.
And we welcome all solutions that arise.
If there is a prescription medication that cures 99% and is harmless, we will recommend it.
I'm not against recommending a prescription drug if it works, if it's safe, if it's effective, and if it's especially affordable for people.
We're welcome to all options here.
And I assume you probably agree with that, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
And again, like I started with this conversation, is that first go to your doctor and they have stronger stuff.
They have stronger antivirals and protease inhibitors and stuff like that, but there's a big potential that you can't get to a doctor, that the healthcare system starts to fail and to have something It's better than nothing.
Dr.
Paul just said he went to a health store and just started picking stuff off the shelf.
No, it's tied to a real research paper that's on my website that states that these compounds actually inhibit Yeah, this is a rational, based on chemistry, based on the morphology of molecules.
Also, this is worth pointing out, ask for your comments on this, but the longer people can delay getting infected or getting sick, the more experience our healthcare system has in how to treat this more effectively.
Because right now there's a learning curve in the hospitals.
They're trying everything.
And two months down the road or three months down the road in the USA, there's going to be a lot more experience among physicians and nurses and so on about how to deal with this.
Absolutely.
It's about flattening that curve.
And there's a lot of different ways.
The social distancing, the ramping up of the ICU beds.
Boosting up our immune system at the nutraceutical level at home.
I mean, everyone, no matter what your age is, what your health condition is, you can start now.
And something is better than nothing.
Absolutely.
And that, what we can do at home.
Drinking filtered water and eating the right foods and having the right supplements will bring down, because what that will do, I use the analogy as a charged battery.
Your immune system is like a charged battery.
The more charge you have in that battery, when you do get infected, you have a better chance of fighting it.
But if you're living an unhealthy life and you only have half a battery, And you get that virus, you're not going to have all that power to fight it.
You might be able to fight it.
You might not.
I'm a guy of probability, and I want a full-charged battery.
And there's a tipping point with this because of the exponential growth of the virus in your own cells.
There's a tipping point where it's suddenly too late.
You know, you're suddenly overwhelmed with it.
And I think this is why so many people can die so suddenly because literally five minutes ago you had enough tissues to be able to breathe.
And then now, suddenly, maybe in the last minute, you don't.
It can happen that fast because of the doubling of the exponential spread of the virus.
But we're coming up on an hour.
I want to be respectful of your time, Dr.
Paul.
So go ahead and give out your website, your YouTube channel, or anything you'd like people to be aware of so they can follow you more.
And I hope we get a chance to talk again as well.
We'll definitely talk.
I enjoy the conversation.
I try to help people.
My website is called the-reikovic.com.
I'm sorry.
The-Studio-Rakovic.com.
But the easiest way to go is just to YouTube and just type in Paul Cottrell.
You'll get to either two channels.
One is called Paul Cottrell.
The other one's Dr.
Paul Cottrell.
Had to have a backup because YouTube, that's the way they are.
But there's links.
If you just type Google, just my name, you'll find lots of stuff that I've published on SSRN for free for people that are working papers or PowerPoints.
It's very easy to get a hold of me if you just Google my name and you can just find everything.
But the main publications that I've done lately about this particular virus have been on my website and on YouTube.
So please subscribe.
It will help.
I am trying to help people because, again, as I was telling Mike, you know, that I've seen a lot of death at a young age, and to my own brother, it affected me, and I want to help people.
And I feel that I have some part to play, a small part, but some part to play to at least inform and to try to help save lives and lower this, dampen this curve that we've been talking about, flattening it, because that's the only way we're not going to have these Outrageous numbers that I've been stating earlier on.
Because if we don't flatten that curve, we're going to see a lot more people infected and a lot more that will die.
And something that we didn't cover, Mike, that the trading session just finished, but something that we didn't mention, which is really important, is our civil liberties and how our civil liberties are being eroded by this.
Because what was going on in Congress the other day, yesterday, they were pushing decaching.
And that's a huge problem when you're talking about surveillance technology with 5G and the encroachment of our civil liberties.
We could spend an hour just talking about that.
I want to do another interview with you, maybe next week if you're open to it, about that very topic.
I mean, the thing is, you and I could probably talk for 10 hours about fascinating things, and the audience would be riveted, I think, in many cases.
But here's something kind of disturbing.
While we were talking, the number of infections in the United States went up by 5,000.
We're over 80,100 right now confirmed, and the number of deaths is 1,151.
I don't know if there's a catching up factor.
These are tests that are catching up to infections that already existed, but it's still shocking that we have 80,000 infections right now.
Well, there's a lot in that number.
One is we have hundreds of thousands of cases.
We're just catching up with the testing.
The throughputs for the amount of testing per day is just not there yet.
I'm willing to bet that New York alone has 100,000.
You're absolutely right, yeah.
That's a conservative number, yeah.
So, then when you compare it to all the cases that have been confirmed in Europe, and you compare it to China, something interesting comes up.
There's more in Western culture than in Asia.
And the question, you know, putting a scientific hat on, why?
Is it because China lied and the WHO lied?
And that opens up a whole can of worms on why is the WHO lying to the world?
Is it that because of the receptor affinity, it's different for Western culture versus Asian cultures?
It's possible.
Or it's a combination of both?
And we need to wake up and realize that this is not the flu.
And this has destroyed the global economy.
It's going to affect a lot of people.
We're starting to hear unemployment rate, you know, is ticking out now.
Well, perhaps next time we could start with why communism is bad and how communism is running the WHO and running much of the mainstream media and running the universities and how really communism actually, I think, gave rise to this virus and the cover-up that led to all of this.
We can talk about that another time if you're open to it.
Definitely, definitely.
Just reach out.
Just have Thomas reach out.
Whatever you want, I'll make sure that I'm available.
Because these are things that are really important.
Because it was not just the scientific pillar, but it's this geopolitical pillar.
Because something's happening between the United States and the CCP. And the first island chains.
And...
The Belt Road, and there's a big geopolitical play going on here.
Yeah, there is.
The erosion of our civil liberties.
And I believe that what is happening today is what I call the BioPatriot Act.
Just like what happened right after 9-11 with the Patriot Act.
Everyone was fearful and a lot of our civil liberties were eroded to build up a gigantic surveillance state and TSA and Homeland Security.
Something similar is going to happen.
We're going to have decashing, forced vaccinations, and erosion of our civil liberties that...
I'm not even sure if that does happen, if we can roll it back.
Well, every time that they're swabbing people to do a coronavirus test, they've got your DNA. Exactly.
So they're probably building a DNA database along with the virus answer.
It's like, oh here, how can we get the whole country to line up and give us their DNA? Oh, just give them coronavirus tests and people just line up.
I'm not going in to do that.
Last thing.
Again, I'm sorry to take the time here, and I'll go ahead and put this in the recording, but do you need anything?
Aren't you in New York?
Yes, I am.
Okay, do you need anything from me?
Because I've been sending out gift packs to lots of people.
I'm actually making industrial-level colloidal silver.
I've got bulk zinc gluconate.
We've got 5,000 kilos of vitamin C, all kinds of stuff.
Well, you know, anything for free is great.
Well, but what do you need, man?
What do you need?
Food is starting to become a problem.
Food is starting to become a problem.
And you know Alex Jones, obviously.
I made an order.
I made an order where I bought four buckets for the household.
It's on back order.
If you can kick them in the butt and say, send it to Dr.
Paul, because I really need those four buckets.
I've been waiting for two weeks now.
Well, okay.
Now, I don't know that I have that kind of pull over at InfoWars because that's a third-party provider.
However, I have good news.
We have ranger buckets coming online next week that we've already got all the food in our warehouse and we're just packing them together right now.
It's not the ready-to-go meals where you add water.
It's more like, oh, here's lentils, here's chickpeas, here's almonds, cashews.
That would help.
Because what's happening is these grocery stores are starting to run out of food and vegetables and stuff.
So we're trying to get vegetables and cut them up and freeze them.
I am sitting on thousands of pounds of expired organic almonds and organic oats and things like that from my store that we can't legally sell, but they expired six months ago, but I'm eating them just fine.
Would you like lots of almonds?
Yeah, because I'm in survival mode right now.
Okay, all right, you got it.
Three hours ago, I didn't have water.
Oh, man.
But, you know, it's getting that serious.
I mean, it's getting to the point where, you know, and I did prepare.
But the thing is, is that when society starts to break down, you have to replenish.
And I live in a small place because I'm in Manhattan.
But, you know, the ability to replenish is getting harder and harder.
And that is a problem.
I will get you a package of almonds and I promise not to cough on them.
Okay.
But no, I don't have the coronavirus anyway.
But you know, the people go to the grocery stores and they cough all over the food now.
They think it's a prank.
And this one grocery store had to throw away $35,000 worth of food.
Did you see that?
Right, right.
That's insane.
I think it was CNN or Bloomberg.
Yeah, that's bonkers.
Totally bonkers.
And why would people do that?
And not only that, there's stupidity on that level, but there's xenophobia where we actually have people on the train.
And if someone's Asian, Everyone on the other side of the train moves.
Yeah, that's nuts, too.
That's totally nuts.
They, you know, that they created the virus, that they, you know, that it's only harbored in Asia.
You know, so it's like there's a lot of stupid sociological things going on in our society that really is, I believe, is un-American.
No, I know.
You don't have to tell me, man.
My wife is from Taiwan.
She's Chinese.
We've seen this before.
I lived in Asia.
And when I lived in Taiwan, I was welcomed as the foreigner.
They loved white Americans coming over, but then now...
There's this suspicion, especially if an Asian person wears a mask in America, which is the responsible thing to do, they get looked at like they're highly contagious.
No, they're actually trying to stop the spread.
Asian people, they're way ahead of us on wearing masks.
I lived in Japan for a year and a half working for Nissan.
They have a totally different culture then.
They were extremely nice to me.
Very welcoming.
The xenophobia is happening in New York.
I don't know about other areas in the country, but it's happening here.
It's sad because they're suffering...
As much as we are.
And they're scared.
Yeah.
And we all need to band together.
That's right.
Because if we do that, we can fight the virus and the globalists that are taking down our constitution.
And that's a serious thing.
We've got two viruses going on here.
There's the globalist virus and the Wuhan virus.
How about the fact that the Federal Reserve is going to own everything by the time these bailouts are all done?
We've got to talk about that.
They're going to own the corporate bonds.
They're going to own the mortgages, the real estate, the commercial real estate as well as residential.
They're going to own the market.
I mean, the markets are no longer functioning as free markets.
Everything is rigged now.
I feel as though the playbook of Atlas Shrug is playing out right now.
They had the bugging out of the billionaires.
They have the secret coin.
Remember the coin that they had in the book?
This is kind of like the Bitcoin or the crypto coin.
They had the idea of The destruction of the oil market and this new type of technology, maybe zero point, I don't know.
But there's a lot of similarities in Atlas Shrug that's starting to roll out right now.
Where is Galt's Gulch then?
Where do we go?
And that bailout package, I swear it looked like it was right out of Atlas Shrug.
It is fiscal insanity.
People have no clue what this is going to do to the dollar long term.
Anyone left holding dollars is going to be wiped out eventually.
That's where this is going.
They're moving towards a totally new monetary system.
What that is and how that all plays out, I don't know.
I'm really concerned that it's going to be that digital dollar.
Or the de-caching of society is a component of the Biopatriot Act that I'm talking about.
And, you know, people think I'm crazy, but this 9-11 and this, they're connected.
They're connected.
And not only that, if you look at, I call them the bookends.
It took 102 minutes for the Twin Towers to fall.
Once they were hit, to actually fall.
It was 102 minutes.
I find it really odd that if you mirror 102, you get 201.
And 201 is the event 201.
So I believe this is a play that's been happening, that they have been trying to roll back our constitutional freedoms.
And we're asleep.
And I'm trying to get people awake and engaged and call their representatives, make sure decaching doesn't happen, you know, make sure that we don't get forced vaccinations.
This messenger RNA platform, that's new.
We have no idea what that means long-term to our genome.
None whatsoever.
No, we could be looking at real transhumanism here.
A transgenic modification of the future human gene pool.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But, you know, you and I are battling, one, the educational level for some of the masses in the United States for science is low.
What we're talking about is really high-level stuff.
I can't get people to do basic math.
I'm still like, people!
Here's a spreadsheet.
Here's how the numbers work.
I can't even get people to see that.
There are days I throw up my hands.
I'm like, forget it.
Everybody's going to die because they can't even understand.
I've had those days too, Mike, where it's like, should I just give up and just hide under my desk?
But the thing is that I think back on my forefathers and how they fought for the country and what happened to my mother's family through the Holocaust.
It is our duty for our children and our children's children to live in freedom.
And we just have to step up to the plate, get onto the battlefield, On the front line, and to the best of our ability, roll back these policies, hopefully in a peaceful way.
But my concern, Mike, is this.
If push comes to shove, we might actually have to, you know, water the tree of liberty with blood.
And that might be a very real possibility here if they start doing the forced vaccinations.
Right, right.
Well, we're going to have to save that topic for next time because that's a whole can of worms.
Don't even get me started on that.
Well, I do think that the great state of Texas is going to be a major player in this.
Yeah, and probably its own country, too, before long.
But look, Dr.
Paul Cottrell, it's been a real pleasure speaking with you.
I'm very honored that you would spend this much time with us, and I hope you'll do it again.
We obviously have a lot of very important things to talk about, so Wow, thank you so much for your time and for your generosity and your brilliance and your compassion for fellow human beings.
Thank you, also.
I mean, you're in the same boat as I am, trying to help.
That's the key here, trying to help.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Alright, well thank you then.
So everybody, Dr.
Paul Cottrell and we'll put his websites up on the screen for you again or YouTube channel and so on where you can find him in case you can't spell Reykjavik.
I wasn't sure exactly how to spell it either when he mentioned it.
But in any case, look, we've got a lot more coming.
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