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March 23, 2018 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Health Ranger hosts Alex Jones show, Edward Griffin and gun confiscation July 2012
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All right, let me lay it out for you here.
The big issues of the day, we're talking about the gun confiscation that really took place, that it's already part of American history, took place in New Orleans.
It's on the record.
We just showed you the video clips.
I mean, some of those were mainstream media video clips.
We've got people, witnesses firsthand.
You just heard a caller, Charles, who called in, who has actually called in many times in the past, telling us firsthand what he witnessed taking place.
The most heinous crimes The big picture here, and by the way, we've got G. Edward Griffin on the line.
We're going to be joining him in just a second.
We've also got callers on the line.
We're going to get to you, so please stay on the line.
James in Tennessee with law enforcement.
Joe from Georgia and Tango from Georgia also, so please stay on the line.
We'll get to you.
The big picture here is, look, I know that Alex and myself both would rather be here talking about the spiritual connection with...
The creative forces of the universe, the creativity and the beauty of the world and human achievement and actually positive outcomes for the future of humanity.
We would rather focus on that.
But the truth is...
When you've got gun confiscation taking place, when you've got an oppressive world government that's trying to take away your liberties, then you have to pay attention to that because you are not going to solve that problem by sitting in a room, let's say, and just meditating.
The gun confiscation, the Federal Reserve, the printing of currency, the stealing of your economic prosperity, the taking away of your rights— These things are real.
And even though we don't want to dwell on them because we don't want to stay in that area, we do have to beat them.
We have to achieve victory as info warriors, as defenders of liberty and life and love and truth and all that is good in the world and even in the universe.
I mean, we have to...
defeat tyranny if we hope to move on and actually achieve something great as a human civilization.
And that's why we do this.
I don't want to dwell on the negative, but we have to be realistic about what's out there.
And this is going on.
You know, Obamacare is forcing you to do business with monopolized criminal pharmaceutical organizations.
It's in your face.
The gun confiscation is really happening.
The NOPD really did go out there and rape women.
After taking the guns away from the family, so they were defenseless.
So it's real.
We can't live in denial if we hope to achieve greatness.
We have to beat the tyrants.
We have to restore liberty.
And that's the only way that we can actually achieve greatness as human civilization and protect the future for our own children and grandchildren as well.
Now, with more comments on that big picture view is, of course, Ed Griffin.
He is really one of the pioneers of the liberty movement.
Realityzone.com is one of his websites.
He joins us now by phone with his comments on what's happening in the world today.
Ed, thank you for joining us here on the Alex Jones Show.
What's on your mind today?
Well, thanks a lot, Mike, for inviting me.
What's on my mind?
Well, I feel rather schizophrenic this morning.
Everything at once is all on my mind, somewhat like you.
I appreciated your comments that we would rather focus on the more pleasant aspects of life, but the reality is in your face, as you said.
Good analogy.
While you were saying that, it reminded me of the The fellow that was on death row in prison, and he was sentenced to be electrocuted in the morning or hung, let's just say hung.
And he wasn't very happy about the idea.
He was in his cell.
He was dejected.
This was the end of his life and everything.
And the guy in the cell across the way said, what's the matter?
Why are you looking so dejected?
And he said, well, I'm going to die here in a few hours.
They're going to hang me.
And so the other fellow said, well, look at the bright side.
You still have your health.
Oh my, a little gallows humor there.
Yeah, that's kind of how I feel because sometimes people say, oh, you're so negative.
You're always talking about these bad things.
Why don't you look at the bright side, you know?
You know, I'm so tired of hearing that from people.
It's like, what, if your neighbor's house is burning down, you shouldn't tell them?
You shouldn't call 911?
Just let it burn down?
Don't be negative?
Don't tell the truth about something bad happening?
Yeah, exactly.
It's ridiculous.
I call it the Jiminy Cricket mentality, you know, the song, If You Wish Upon A Star.
No matter where you are, it'll all come true if you just wish, wish, wish.
And we kind of teach that to kids, that if you're good and you're pure and your intentions are correct and, you know, everything will work out just fine because you're good.
Well, the fact of the matter is we live in a world where there are a lot of people who are not so good.
As a matter of fact, the criminal mentality tends to gravitate into positions of power, government power in particular, because they figured it out a long time ago, why should you fight the government when you can Absolutely.
And what are you seeing in terms of the trending of criminality?
Because one of the trends that's becoming very obvious to info warriors and all of us who fight for liberty is that in the last even just five years, there seems to be an acceleration.
Just the outright criminality, thuggishness of government.
Not just federal, but I mean at local levels, too.
Look at California.
Look at Chicago.
Well, I guess Chicago's always been steeped in corruption and criminality.
But is it really getting worse, in your opinion?
Well, yes it is.
Because I think there's almost a mathematical relationship here.
This is a social event happening.
But I think there's a lot of mathematics in it, in the sense that the reason that all governments eventually...
We've evolved into criminal syndicates is because we give them power.
And power is a magnet.
Power is a magnet that attracts the criminal mentality, the predator class.
And so the more power we give to government, the more inevitable it becomes that that magnet gets stronger and it attracts more and more of the predator class.
And finally, we just have basically a government that we thought was of the people gradually evolved into a criminal syndicate.
So, yes, there's a mathematical relationship.
The more power we give to government, the more we create a criminal environment.
Well, yeah, look at the UN where you have total diplomatic immunity.
So anywhere that you have total immunity, you get complete and utter corruption.
Of course.
Runaway criminality.
Yeah, that's it.
So once people connect the dots and realize that there's a cause for this criminality, it's not just because, oh, it happened that way.
There's a cause.
It's that relationship between the power that we tolerate and In fact, we often become, when I say we, I mean the people in general.
Not you and me, of course, but in general, the population has been conditioned to think that no matter what problems we have in society, the solution is to give more power to the government.
And so we create this environment.
We are creating ourselves, creating this magnet for the criminals.
Well, what do you think about the gun confiscation issue?
I don't know if you heard the last segment, but it's rising up again because of this UN treaty being negotiated that would potentially...
I mean, this was written up right in Forbes magazine, in fact, which typically doesn't reveal this much information about what's really going on.
But it could potentially result in gun registration, confiscation of legal firearms, basically a total disarmament of the U.S. population.
Of course, they deny that that's what the treaty would do, but if you read between the lines, that's what it actually could do.
What are your thoughts on that issue, Ed Griffin?
Well, that pretty well summarizes it.
They do deny it.
They always deny the negative consequences of their programs.
They like to talk about their other measures in glowing terms.
They don't call it gun confiscation or gun control.
They call it disarmament, reducing crime, and they put things like crime reduction program, that kind of thing.
Well, of course, but of course the greatest armed criminals, I should say the most severe, the worst armed criminals, are the government themselves.
Just look at history, look at democide figures of death by government.
So I think what the mainstream people are missing is that it's not gun disarmament.
It is a movement of all firearms out of the hands of law-abiding citizens into the hands of the most centralized, corrupt, power-hungry groups of all, which is government.
That's the message that doesn't get through to people for some reason.
Yeah, because the media and the confiscators are always talking about criminals.
They're always talking about taking guns away from criminals.
And reducing accidental deaths and injuries.
That's the total focus.
That's the limits of the debate.
No one's allowed to discuss the real purpose of the Second Amendment.
The Second Amendment was not added to the Constitution by our forefathers to protect the citizens against crime.
from totalitarian governments.
Yes, yes.
Their own governments.
They were leery that their own government might someday become tyrannical.
And so, therefore, they said the people must be armed so that the people will have the ultimate control over their own government.
Well, who talks about that today?
Well, maybe we should support disarmament of the government.
I mean, we should.
But, you know, hey, I'd feel a lot safer with firearms in the hands of sheriffs and sheriff's deputies all across the country and not in the hands of, let's say, some renegade ATF agents.
Not that they're all bad, but there are a lot of renegade ATF agents out there.
But how about this?
Are you willing to take a call from a police officer who's on the line?
Why, sure.
All right, let's go to James in Tennessee, law enforcement.
James, you're on the air here with Mike Adams and Ed Griffin.
Go ahead, sir.
Yes, sir.
How are y'all doing today?
Doing good.
What's on your mind?
Well, you made a statement earlier about the police officers not being bad, and I think that's pretty much common knowledge.
There should be any way, and Mr.
Griffin knows that.
I happen to have been in for a while.
I'm not as old as some of the guys that I work with.
Most of your younger guys are the ones that are coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan and coming into the police forces and the sheriff's departments.
They have programmed these guys.
Not all of them, but I've run into a few.
Some people just can't be reached.
They've effectively robbed them all.
And that will be one of the biggest threats that I see.
So what are you saying?
That they come back with a mindset of just do anything and kill and it's like they can't think for themselves?
Or what exactly?
How does that look to you when you see these guys?
Well, you know, it's really weird.
Because, you know, being raised in a law enforcement slash military family, so to speak over the years, you see these guys and you think, you know, when I went in, when I got...
It was God's family country, or God's country family, and that kind of thing.
You wanted to do good by your fellow citizens and your brothers and sisters, and that seems to be missing.
That seems to be the element that's missing is just a compassion.
You know, they've been desensitized, I guess you might say, to killing.
Yeah, definitely.
And not that they're all around saying that, but you can pick up on those little nuances when you get into certain situations.
You know, they may be a little quicker to shoot than...
I've seen it in different places, not just where I'm at.
Okay, good points, James.
Thank you for your call.
Ed, your comments on that caller?
Well, yes, that's been my observation, too.
Of course, I was in the military.
Fortunately, I was never called upon to go into actual combat, but I was kind of braced for it.
And I can recall at the time...
That I had actually gone through basic training to condition my mind to follow orders, not to question anything.
And of course, that's necessary in any military.
I realize that.
But I was prepared that if somebody said, see that group over there, that's the enemy, go kill them.
I was prepared to say, well, my officer said that's the enemy.
My orders are to go kill the enemy.
That's the patriotic thing to do, because I'm fighting for my country and my family and everything.
But I was prepared to actually do that.
Of course, I didn't know nothing, as they say, at the time of what really was going on in the world.
I was there because I love my country, and that was the patriotic thing to do.
But now, in retrospect, I'm a lot older, and I've seen that there are hidden agendas quite often behind wars.
Sure.
Sure.
Well, Ed, let me ask you this question.
What about the pharmaceutical influence on these young minds?
Because this is the first generation of soldiers that is actually deployed with mandatory mind-altering drugs.
And I know you're well-versed on big pharma and the cancer cover-ups, the cancer industry corruption, things like that.
Do you think that their minds are being rewired, literally, with the chemicals that they're now being given on deployment?
Well, I don't think...
I think it's just an extension of the mind conditioning that was done through training.
In the old days it was just done through exposure, training, repetition, and mental programs, educational programs, whatever you want to call them.
But now they've added the element of drugs themselves.
Gosh, it's a frightening thing because I know that most of these shootings that we find in schools, they're done By kids that have been given these psych...
SSRIs and antidepressants, yeah.
They're all supposedly attention deficit disorder kids or something like that.
And this just blows their minds.
It pushes them over the edge into either suicidal or homicidal.
Well, it's not unusual today for a soldier to be on six different pharmaceuticals during active duty.
And you notice sometimes when they go crazy and they kill a bunch of civilians out there in a local village, those people are almost always on psychotropic drugs and usually sometimes half a dozen, like a chemical cocktail.
But you've got to think, maybe they come back and they are so detached that they can't even see what they're doing to their own brothers and sisters, their own neighbors in their own country anymore.
right it's yeah that their mind they're incapable of coming to you know judgment independent judgments and they've been trained to do that they've been conditioned to do that and And I really, I fear those people, but I also feel sorry for them. - Sure. - Nevertheless, you know, if they're ordered to come over and pick you and me up and throw us in the truck and take us out wherever we have to go and eliminate us, that's what they would do.
Let's go to another caller who's on the line, and I'll ask for your comments, Ed.
Tango from Georgia.
U.S. Army is the designation I'm getting here.
Tango, go ahead, please.
You're on the show.
What's on your mind?
Well, thanks for taking my call, first of all.
One thing I did want to touch on real quick is sort of on subject.
When you join any military service in this country, you take an oath.
And it's an oath that I think these kids nowadays need to remember.
You take an oath to protect the people of the United States and the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
And that's something that I take very seriously.
When I was, you know, first then, it really didn't hit me as hard as it did when I was out there.
I battled with depression for about a year once I got out from the withdrawal from the drugs y'all were just talking about.
I was suicidal for a long time.
But I'm over that now, and I'm trying to get the word out there.
I also worked for a security company just recently, and this is to touch on another subject about the TSA outsourcing to private security companies.
That just happened to the company that I worked for.
I just quit yesterday.
I told my boss outright that it was against my moral compass to do such a thing.
Wow, you're rare then because most people just go along with the tyranny.
Absolutely not.
No, I've been...
I'm over it, man.
I'm ready to take up arms, to be honest with you.
And I hope there are a lot of other ex-soldiers out there just like me who are ready to do the same and fight for this country and for the ideals that the Founding Fathers tried to instill.
But, I mean, I've also been witness...
I mean, I was stationed at Fort Benning.
I've been witness to these drills that y'all are talking about, the weapons confiscation drills.
I've been witness to...
The land seizure drills where the terrorists, the so-called terrorists, quote-unquote, are men dressed in overalls with John Deere hats.
Right, right.
You've seen it firsthand.
It's a lot of good information.
Let me ask for Ed's comments on what you're just saying there.
Well, I haven't had that firsthand experience in the military, but I know it goes on.
And, yeah, so the impact is on the young soldier that's being recruited, and he's being told that he's...
He's serving his country by learning how to do these things.
He's impressed by that.
He gets a paycheck.
He does his job well.
He gets a medal for his chest.
We've got to go to break here, Ed.
What else is there?
Stay with us, please.
More continuing straight ahead here on the Alex Jones Show with Ed Griffin and Pauls of military and law enforcement with knowledge of gun confiscation.
Stay with us.
If you're just joining us, this is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, filling in for Alex today.
Thanks for continuing with us.
We've got G. Edward Griffin on the line from realityzone.com, one of the top freedom fighters and liberty advocates in our world today.
We've had callers who are active duty law enforcement and military giving us information about gun confiscation.
We've got other callers on the line, but I want to ask Ed This question, there's an event coming up, April, let's see, I'm sorry, August 18.
It's called Lemonade Freedom Day 2012.
This is brand new.
I don't think anyone's covered this yet.
The website is LemonadeFreedom.com and this is an attempt to show that selling lemonade from your lemonade stand should not be a crime as it is being increasingly considered by law enforcement all across the country.
Ed Griffin, your thoughts on Lemonade Freedom.
Well, I like the idea.
I like the fact that there's enough indignation out there at the grassroots level for people to even consider that.
But, you know, I have to say that putting yourself out there and saying, come arrest me for selling lemonade, as much as I admire that, I would like to think that people will put in an equal amount of effort and time and money to try and re-elect those stupid local I would like to think that people will put in an equal amount of effort and time and money to try and re-elect those stupid local politicians that pass ordinances like that and get to the root of the problem, which is it's not that the police
are being told to go enforce stupid ordinances, but it's because stupid ordinances have So I always try to go to the source of the problem, not the problem itself.
And the source of the problem is that we're electing the wrong people.
I agree with you.
Completely agree.
And I'm trying to understand, what is the mindset of those who think gun confiscation from citizens is a great idea?
Because let's face it, there's a significant percentage of the country that somehow believes that.
What do they imagine?
That when all the people are disarmed and only the government has all the guns, that they're going to be safer?
Is it...
They actually do.
I have some personal friends, and I just think the world of them.
They're very nice people, but that's their attitude.
They think every time something happens, there's an accident, a little child gets killed by a gun accidentally, or some shooter goes into a school and kills a bunch of kids.
They focus on that and say, look, you see, the problem there was guns.
If those people didn't have guns, they think, but none of these crimes would take place.
And they might be They might be right that some crimes might not be committed if there were no guns out there, but there would be more crimes committed if there were no guns out there.
I have a little slogan I've used for years.
You know, guns are dangerous.
People get killed with guns.
You know, guns, there are accidents with guns.
Guns are very dangerous.
The only thing more dangerous than having guns is not having guns.
Well, and also, I love how people who think we should all be disarmed, when they have a problem, when they have an intruder hiding in the bushes outside their house, what do they do?
They pick up the phone to call men with guns to come solve their problem.
You know, I just say, take out the middleman.
Let's do it ourselves.
We're here in Texas.
We can defend our own homes against crazy people and looters.
I mean, that's an American right.
Yeah.
Well, they like to paint people like you and me as some kind of wild killers under the sky.
Yahoo's.
They hardly wait to kill somebody, you know.
Oh, right, right.
Yeah.
Well, I've fired a lot of guns when I was in the military, a little practice since I came out, and they kind of jar me a little bit, but I think they're very important for every family to have.
You know, just a great equalizer, as they say.
Well, yeah, this is what gives a 110-pound grandma the ability to stand her ground against a 250-pound thug who wants to steal her purse.
That's right.
It is the great equalizer.
Well, Ed Griffin, I really appreciate you being on the show today.
Ed Griffin from realityzone.com.
Check out his website, folks, to learn more about his philosophies and lots of information.
Ed, great to have you on.
Thanks for joining us.
Okay, thanks a lot, Mike.
Talk to you later.
Yeah, you bet.
Great freedom champion right there, folks.
There goes Ed Griffin.
And we'll be back here on the Alex Jones Show.
A lot more straight ahead, including an interview with a big pharma whistleblower in the next hour.
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