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Health Ranger on Alex Jones Show, interview with Mark Baker Michigan livestock farmer Apr 2012
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Coming up in just a couple of minutes, we've got Mark Baker from bakersgreenacres.com.
He is the Michigan pig farmer whose livestock has been threatened by the state of Michigan.
Excuse me.
But before that, we've got something fun for you here.
You know that we've had this big discussion about SSRIs and psychiatric drugging of soldiers and all of that going on.
It's a big deal.
And finally, people are waking up to it.
Back in 2009, I wrote a song called SSR Lies.
And in the spirit of the creativity that goes on here at Infowars, where Alex does his parodies and the whole crew, they're super talented, a bunch of musicians here, super creative crew.
I wanted to play for you about 45 seconds of that song while we're getting our guest online so that you can hear some of what I was talking about back in 2009 that is now becoming more mainstream.
So go ahead and cue that song for a little bit.
Come on.
Come on.
All right.
So some of the words there, you got to take your life back, put the knife back down, throw the medication on the ground because those medical suckers are going to psych that.
And if you're speaking your mind, they're going to strike that.
Those are the words of what you just heard there.
It might have been a little hard to make out from the song because I wasn't really using that great of a microphone back in 2009.
But...
That's what we've got to get to in this country.
We've got to de-escalate the violence.
We've got to de-escalate the race war.
We've got to get the drugs out of people's minds, stop the fluoride poisoning of America, stop the GMO poisoning of our crops, stop the electromagnetic poisoning of our brains.
We've got to be able to retain the consciousness and the awakening and the basic love for humanity and love for life that's going to give us a future in this world.
And that means throwing the medication away.
You know, Whitney Houston could probably still be alive today if she wasn't using all those psychiatric drugs or painkillers in her case.
Heath Ledger is another Hollywood legend who was killed by an overdose of FDA approved prescription drugs.
It's a very long list.
Marilyn Monroe, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, their deaths were all caused in part or entirely by FDA approved painkillers and prescription drugs.
That is the epidemic that's really haunting us in America today.
Now joining us to continue our conversation about farming in America is Mark Baker from bakersgreenacres.com.
He is the Michigan pig farmer that we mentioned earlier.
Mark, are you with us right now?
I'm here, Mike.
Thank you, Mark, for joining us today, man.
It's great to hear from you.
You're a very courageous American.
Just want to give a quick background.
You're an Air Force veteran.
You've been a farmer there in Michigan for, what, five or six years, something around that time?
About eight.
Okay, eight years.
Okay, I didn't know that.
So, on April 1, you were there at your farm thinking, oh my goodness, the state is going to come murder, slaughter my herd.
What actually happened that night before April 1 when that regulation was going to kick in?
Well, we got tipped off on Friday that they were coming, and I called my lawyer, and he made a few phone calls.
Apparently, The Attorney General in Michigan stepped in and said that there would not be any movement against us until our court case is settled.
So I had some reassurance, but there's a bit of a trust issue with these guys, so I moved my family off Saturday afternoon anyway, just as a precaution.
And then I stood from 12 to 12 the next day waiting.
They didn't show.
So, you could still be rated at any time under this invasive species order that the DNR in Michigan has actually put into place, correct?
They haven't?
Yeah, I suppose so.
I don't see any concrete block to keep them from doing what they want to do.
They've said they won't, or the Attorney General has said that he's restrained them.
But isn't this like Obama signing the NDAA that, quote, legalizes secret arrests and secret torture and detainment of American citizens and then saying, well, I won't use it?
Isn't that similar to what's really happening to you in Michigan?
So they want to claim they have this power over you, but then they say they will selectively restrain it in your case because you went public, you made a YouTube video, you have a family that looks nice on YouTube.
They don't want to obviously be seen as raiding your farm.
But what about all your other friends and neighbors and farmers?
Are they afraid of being raided?
Not only are they afraid of it, but they're being aggressively searched as we speak.
And DNR has shown up that a friend of ours, Ron McKendrick up in Sheboygan, tried to get on his farm to inspect it, what they're looking for as probable cause.
And he told them, no, get a warrant.
Well, they came back the next day, and then they trespassed illegally.
They had binoculars, and they were looking out onto his property to see if they could see.
So they're surveilling his farm?
Yeah, and then they parked down the road.
I guess I'm told it was two trucks, and they were there for two days.
You would think that they would have something better to do, to stake out actual terrorists, if you could even find any in America?
I suppose, but this is the DNR. They are supposed to be just protecting wild animals down the woods and clearing trails and things like that.
Well, let me ask you this, Mark.
Well, first of all, let me give out your website, bakersgreenacres.com for those who want to read your blog, who want to see your videos, your ongoing updates, and so on.
But I want to ask you, as a United States Air Force veteran, someone who put your effort, your life, your time on the line to help protect America and its values and its freedoms, and now here you are being subjected to the threat of having your animals killed at gunpoint by the state in which you are a resident.
How does that make you feel?
I think it's a disgrace.
I think the state government here should really be ashamed of what they're allowing to happen to their citizens.
It seems to me that there's got to be more to this also because it's not just...
That they're going to back off selectively in your case.
That law is still on the books.
Those bureaucrats have conspired to threaten you and destroy your property and put your livelihood in essence.
Isn't that a crime or shouldn't it be a conspiracy to destroy the livelihood of an honest, hardworking farmer?
Well, yeah, in reality it is.
They've leveled a declaratory ruling at us that is It is unconstitutional and therefore illegal.
And we're duty-bound as American citizens to disobey orders that are illegal or unconstitutional.
And then it's their responsibility to try and prosecute us.
In the prosecution phase, it'll be found out that the orders that they have leveled are unconstitutional.
And then it will turn on them.
And the courts will We'll want to know what they are doing and why they are doing this.
Are you planning on seeking justice through the legal system to hold those accountable in Michigan government who have conspired to destroy your livelihood and slaughter your animals?
Yes, we are.
A group of us farmers have sued the Michigan DNR, and we probably go to court with them this summer sometime.
Have you thought about filing a civil suit that names the specific individuals and attempting to hold them accountable?
Yes, we have.
We sued Rodney Stokes, who is the director of the Michigan DNR. Will you please keep me posted on the updates on that, and I'll share that information with Curt Nemo and the entire Infowars team.
See, this is the thing, Mark.
It is time for the American people, especially the farmers, to stop just laying down and taking it.
And I don't mean That's true, Mike.
There's several legal defense funds out there for farmers to use.
We started off with the Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund, and they're the ones that got us going on this.
And they're in place.
To protect the rights of farmers.
But the farmers really have to know that a lot of this work they have to do on their own.
And the first thing they have to do is think about resistance.
If they're asked to do something that's unconstitutional, unfair, first they have to resist.
And like in our case here, the DNR, if you tell them that they can't come on, there's really nothing more they can do than get a search warrant.
And I think that if they go to the The county judge asked for a search warrant to search for illegal pigs.
I don't think that's going to go over very well.
That's insane.
But what we saw, what we just reported on in other breaking news today, the case with Andrew Wordies in Roswell, Georgia, the bureaucrats there in that city, they kept pushing to try to just fabricate something or find something.
They had their own culvert clogged up.
That ended up flooding his property to create a nuisance that they then charged him with having a nuisance property.
It's like once you're on their target list, they can invoke all these ridiculous rules and even create a situation where they can cite you for a violation and then throw you in jail for having that violation.
Yeah, I guess so, but I think things are changing.
I think Americans are getting set up and Like in our case, people have said to me that, oh, you have a problem with the DNR. I don't think that's the case.
I think the DNR has a problem with me, because we're not going to let up on this, ever.
You know, we're just not going to let up.
They could do away with the declaratory ruling tomorrow, and we would still be on them to find out why this was done, who was behind it.
You know, where the money goes.
We know that they're working with Michigan Pork Growers Association, which is the concentrated animal feeding operation outfits that are here in Michigan.
And those guys definitely want more market share.
And so they're using the DNR to strong arm the small farms and put them out.
Let me mention the Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund because they have done some excellent work in this area.
Their website is ftcldf.org.
It's obviously the acronym for their name, Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund.
But it seems like, Mark, what you're doing, and I really love to see your courage in doing this, is you are putting the tyrants on notice.
And I think that's what we have to do across America.
Whether it's the farmers, whether it's the milkman in California, whether it's the backyard chicken farmer in Georgia, whether it's the front yard gardener in Oak Park, Michigan, we have to put the bureaucrats on notice and say we will not be trampled on any longer.
We have the God-given natural right to grow our own food and to not be interfered with and oppressed by local government tyrants just because they're not into farming and food.
That's right.
And people gotta remember, first of all, they're American citizens.
There's a lot that goes with being an American citizen.
There's a lot of privileges with that.
And then these guys that are trying to push these unconstitutional laws down our throats, they have names, they have faces, they have careers, and they can be sued individually.
And they will know that that's going to affect their life profoundly, just like they want to affect my life.
I mean, they don't have a problem with, you know, doing away with half my farming operations.
Yeah, well, they were going to put you out of business, basically, destroy your entire livelihood.
Well, they've done it to at least 70 Michigan farmers that have just done away with their herds just because they were afraid.
And I think that they don't know who they are in being an American citizen.
They have the Constitution.
And, you know, people, I've heard, since this has started, I've heard people say, well, the government's just wiping themselves with the Constitution.
Well, not if you don't let them.
That's right.
Your Fourth Amendment right is very clear, and they cannot trespass on you, you know, unless they have a warrant for...
You seem like a very action-oriented individual, and I don't mean that in the context of an escalation, just that you're willing to take a stand for the rights that you have been granted as an American citizen and those same rights for which you have...
Donated your time to help protect as an Air Force active duty person.
What is the sense there in Michigan?
As you talk to others, is there a sense of people getting fed up and I don't want to say rising up because I don't want to imply an armed resistance.
I just want to say people asserting their rights against the bureaucrats who are clearly out of control.
Is that happening or are people giving up and surrendering and giving in and licking boots?
Here in Michigan locally, there's more giving up Then standing up.
And that's sad, but Michigan...
All right, I served in the military for 20 years, and I served with a lot of people from different services that were from Michigan.
And Michigan people are very hardcore people.
They're hard workers, you know, fast runners, hard-living people.
But they are petrified of their government.
And I come here to live.
I'm from Massachusetts.
I came here to live because this is my wife's home.
And I'm just amazed at how fearful these people are of their government.
So I can only assume that it's just been a lifelong operation of instilling fear in these people, especially of the DNR. They're petrified.
Well, that's part of the tactic of government is to paint people as terrorists, to then run these giant screens in Walmart where you've got Janet Napolitano saying, be afraid of your neighbors, spy on your neighbors, watch what they do.
If you see something, say something.
Your neighbor might be a terrorist that might be planting a bomb.
No, they just set their purse down on the table for a second.
It's not a bomb, okay?
But they've trained, you're right, Mark, they've trained people to be afraid of each other.
But across the country, Mike, now that's a different story.
There's lots of people that are standing up and they're saying that we are with you.
And I don't mean like a hundred, I mean thousands.
My inbox fills up ten times in the course of the day.
And it's just one after another of support.
There's only been like maybe...
One-tenth of one percent that has had anything negative to say about it.
It's usually because they misunderstand the law.
Right.
They haven't really looked into it.
But I'll tell you something about me.
It's not the Air Force that put this patriotism in me.
I'm from New England, and when I was a kid I used to have to walk past a monument that told about a man named Nathan Howe that dropped his plow in the furrow to respond to the Lexington alarm of April 18th.
1776, and my grandfather used to tell me about that, and here was a guy that led his plow over to the side, and he went back to the farmhouse, probably got his gun, if he owned one, or a pitchfork maybe, and then went to the Concord Bridge to help the alarm.
And that was a blockade against Boston.
The British had blockaded Boston and were Oh, really?
Turn in your guns and we'll give you food.
Well, that may be coming again in America.
Looks like they're trying to control our food, doesn't it?
I heard a little bit about that, yeah.
Well, it's right there in the language.
It was covered here on InfoWars.
I covered it as well.
It's right there in plain language, and it's not some throwback to history.
It's actually reactivated right now in peacetime.
We've got to go to a break here, Mark, but we'll continue with you on the other side of this break.
Stay with us, folks.
There's a lot more ahead here on the Alex Jones Show.
This is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, filling in today for Alex.
Hope you're enjoying the show.
We've got a lot more straight ahead.
Stay with us.
We've been focusing a lot of freedom issues related to farmers' food.
And much more.
The bigger picture.
Mark Baker is joining us right now from bakersgreenacres.com in Michigan, which for some reason has been the hotbed of a lot of government assaults on individual liberties and rights.
And I'm wondering what's in the water in Michigan, but I know it's probably fluoride.
What do you think, Mark?
What do you think about your state?
Why are they so tyrannical with everybody there?
I don't know.
It almost seems like Michigan is a place where they test things out.
They try to see what they can do.
Exactly what people will take.
Well, and as you said, most people are taking a lot.
They're putting up with it.
See, it gives me hope, on one hand, to interview you, Mark, and to hear your patriotism and your courage and your understanding of the key concepts of liberty, but then you tell me these things that make me feel kind of down, that a lot of people are surrendering and giving in instead of standing up.
That doesn't make me feel good.
Well, yeah, if we look back in history, especially at the Revolution, there was really only 20% of the colonists that resisted King George, and then less than 2% actually picked up arms.
And it doesn't take a whole lot of people.
It just depends on, you know, the fervent.
Well, you've hit upon it.
That's exactly right.
Alex says it all the time.
A lot of people who are just sitting still doing nothing, they don't count.
No.
The revolution, as you say, was less than 5% of the population, and yet they won because they had it in their hearts.
They had it in their spirit to protect their liberties.
Like you, Mark, you're not just fighting for some legal precedent.
You're fighting for your livelihood.
You're fighting for your family, for your future.
That's right.
And not just mine either, Mike, because...
They're going after, right now, it's heritage breeds of swine that they're going after, but they could just as easily say that certain types of beef are invasive species, or poultry that we like to grow out on pasture is invasive because it hurts the wild birds, something like that.
We've actually heard those rumblings.
Oh yeah, that's coming.
But wasn't the origin of this Invasive Species Act, you actually explained this to me, was originally written by Michigan to prevent the tankers, the big ships, coming into the lake and dumping their ballast water that was full of ocean saltwater creatures that became invasive.
Wasn't that the original intent behind the law?
Yes, it was.
It's a good law.
We've really got to protect our natural resources.
Everybody knows that.
But to add The farm animals onto an invasive species order is just a little over the top, I think.
Well, but here's where it's going, man.
You want to know where it's really going, Mark, and all the listeners out there?
They're going to label humans the invasive species.
That's what's coming.
That's what was depicted in Hunger Games, that the people are the invaders, that all the land belongs to the kingship, and that humans are not allowed outside their zones.
Everything's a green zone?
Yeah.
And they take your land?
I mean, this is part of the story in Roswell, Georgia today.
Well, let me ask you this, Mark.
What's ahead for you?
What's the next step?
Well, I'm actually heading up to the Upper Peninsula today, and we're going to have a little strategy meeting with a couple of the other farmers that have chosen to resist And our lawyers, and just talk about what our next move is.
There's going to be some depositions happening, and these people from the DNR by name will have to come in and explain the things that they have said.
These are people that have gone to college and that have made ludicrous statements about how biology works.
They don't know what a feral pig really is.
Well, they do, but they've said these things, but now they're going to be held accountable in a deposition.
All right, Mark, we're out of time.
I want to thank you for joining us, though.
Bakersgreenacres.com is the website where you can learn more about Mark and read his blog there.
Stay with us here, folks.
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