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Welcome, everyone, to the Health Ranger Report here on TalkNetwork.com.
And today I'm interviewing one of our listeners' favorite authors, an investigative journalist, a man who's published many books and has investigated many issues that affect our world and document our history.
His name is Jim Mars.
And he is, of course, the author of the new book, Population Control.
He has a show here on TalkNetwork.com called The View from Mars.
And his last name is spelled M-A-R-R-S, so two R's.
And his website is JimMars.com if you'd like to check out some of his work.
Welcome to the show, Jim.
Hey, Mike.
It's a pleasure to be with you.
Well, it's great to have you here in person.
We're getting to do a recording right here in the studio.
Right here in soggy Bastrop, Texas.
Yeah, that's right.
We are at the Secret Space Weapons Conference where Jim is speaking in Bastrop, Texas.
What are you speaking about today, Jim?
Remote viewing aliens.
Really?
Yeah, so you got two weird topics, okay?
Psychic ability and space aliens.
And do they go together?
And yeah, they do.
It's an interesting story.
Fascinating.
Well, let's back up for listeners who I'm sure most people have heard of remote viewing, but not everybody has.
So could you describe remote viewing?
Okay, remote viewing is basically a psychic ability.
We used to call it clairvoyance, where a person can describe people, places, things at a great distance without using their ordinary five senses.
And if this sounds kind of woo-woo to some of your listeners, then yeah, trust me, it sounded woo-woo to all the people that started this.
But this began As a reaction back in the 70s to information that was coming out of the old Soviet Union, that they had been experimenting with psychic ability with some success.
So in the halls of the Pentagon, the attitude was, well, we think that's a bunch of hooey.
We don't believe in any of that stuff.
But by golly, if the commies are doing it, we got to do it, too.
There's something to it.
Yeah, so we had a psychic race, and sure enough, they did a lot of the CIA got involved, they got Stanford Research Institute involved, and they did a lot of experimentation over and over and over again, and they found out that yes, it really works.
In fact, the two fascinating Aspects of remote viewing are that, number one, they found out everyone has this ability, okay?
But then that's, Mike, that's kind of like saying we all have the ability to play Chopin on the piano, you know?
It takes training.
Yes, everybody can do it, but I guarantee you most people can probably do it better than me.
But if I did take piano lessons and practice, you know, day in, day out, yeah, I could get to where I could play Chopin on the piano.
So yeah, everybody has the ability.
The other one is really, really wild.
They found that this ability is not limited by time or space.
Whoa, okay.
So we're talking non-locality.
Exactly.
Someone can see the future or the past or some other location.
And while you're at it, let me make this because I find this really, really fascinating because, you know, one of the age-old questions is, you know, is it predestination?
You know, are we predestined to do certain things and you can't get away from it or whatever?
When the trained remote viewers that work for the CIA work for the Army, when they look back in time, everything is solid.
It's just there, you know, because it's happened.
When they look forward into the future, which they can...
The further into the future they go, the more nebulous it becomes.
Because it's all probabilities.
It's all probabilities, which means if you are afraid of something in the future, you have the ability to change it by changing what's happening right now.
So you have free will, even though the future is, well, I guess it's like a probability wave, right?
Right.
Well, it's like, okay, Mike, let's say that I do a psychological study on you, and I know you inside and out probably better than you know yourself, and I find out that you really, really, really love ice cream, okay?
So I can pretty well predict that if I offer you a bowl of ice cream, you're going to take it.
Right.
You know?
But if for some reason you say, boy, I really want that ice cream, but I'm not going to take it, you do have the ability and the power to say no and change it.
Yes.
Now, so the underlying theory of remote viewing has to be something that we are all connected.
Right.
In some way.
There must be...
Einstein's unified field theory.
Which he never perfected, by the way.
No, never did, but...
But he thought it existed.
But the idea is that the whole universe, everything is just a swirling mass of energy, and that therefore it's all connected.
A table that you may be sitting at.
You can bang your knuckles on it and it wraps and you know that's a solid table.
And yet you also know scientifically that that table is really nothing but a bunch of atoms all clumped together.
And we know that atoms are like, what, 98% nothing.
More.
More than that.
More than that.
So actually, that table's a bunch of nothing, except it's real to us, and I guarantee you, you bang your head on it, your head will hurt.
So, you know, there are ramifications.
So it's really fascinating.
And we know that remote viewing can work outside the Earth, because back in the 70s, there was a test done on Jupiter.
And they went down and saw all of this stuff on Jupiter.
They saw it had a little magnetic field.
They saw it had a small ring around Jupiter.
And at that time, when they gave those conclusions to the scientists, they all just went, well, that's kind of interesting, but we don't know that.
And so it all languished, you know.
In the late 70s, 80s, they sent out the Voyager spacecraft, and they came back, and everything these remote viewers had said about Jupiter turned out to be absolutely correct.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
So, it really works.
So, the U.S. Army created a remote viewing department.
Wasn't there a Hollywood movie made, kind of mocking it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The Men Who Stare at Goats.
That's right.
Yeah.
And that was what, in Watergate parlance, is a limited hangout.
Okay.
They kind of told the public a little bit about the truth, what was going on, because they did.
Thank you.
Remote viewing, the psychic phenomena, they did get off into some weird character and weird exercises.
So they made this movie that took some of the wilder things they did, scrunched it all together, and then did it in kind of a humorous way.
So everybody would go, well, that's just crazy, you know.
And yet the reality of it was anything but crazy.
Now, supposedly, as of 1995, the military unit of remote viewers was disbanded.
And if you ask a government official today if they have a remote viewing program, they're going to tell you no.
And technically, they're probably telling you the truth because it's my understanding that what has happened is two things.
Number one, they have recruited younger and more recent remote viewers and then inserted them into Various groups like the Delta Force and the Army Rangers and just various departments, even probably some of the drug enforcement agencies, they all try to have at least one remote viewer around.
And that only makes sense because if you're, for instance, if you're in a combat unit, what commander doesn't want to have somebody around who might be able to tell him what's on the other side of the hill?
That's true, yeah.
And it reminds me, remember the book by Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers?
They always had a psychic.
They had a psychic who knew where the bugs were under the ground.
That's right.
With every platoon, they had a psychic.
That's right.
So see, that's an instance of art imitating life, because some of our sneaky peep forces indeed carry remote viewers with them.
The other thing they do is that they can technically say, no, we're not developing remote viewing within the military or even within the government, is because they have taken the Army-trained remote viewers who are now out of the service, and many of them are operating as civilians and teaching remote viewing, and they have a lot of remote viewing students.
Really?
And so they contract with the government.
Ah.
Say the government, you're in the government and you want to know something and you want to use the remote viewers, you don't do it on government time, but you can contract with one of these size spies, as I call them, and then they turn around and have their students, you know, do this as exercises, and then they get the results and they work up a report and do this as exercises, and then they get the results and they work up a report So the government has access to remote viewing.
I see.
Now, so does the government ever contract, let's say, a dozen remote viewers to focus on one thing individually and then compile those results and see if a theme is being repeated among those dozen people?
Well, absolutely, because that's the way that you get to the higher percentages of accuracy.
Right.
If one person sees...
Well, let me put it this way, Mike.
It's the same way if you have a dozen witnesses to a car accident.
Yes.
You know, you're going to interview them one by one.
Sometimes you kind of get almost sounds like 12 different stories.
Of course.
Yeah.
But if you'll take everything they say and if you synthesize it, then you find out that, you know, the vast majority of them said the black car ran the stop sign and hit the red car.
You'd pretty well take that to the bank.
Yeah.
All right.
Good point.
And remote viewing, obviously, it's up to interpretation, obviously.
Right.
And the remote viewer themselves, they may have personal experiences that could distort what they are seeing.
Exactly.
Exactly.
In fact, they have a term for it.
It's called analytic overload.
And overlay.
Analytic overlay.
And that means, well, for example, if I want you to remote a South Sea Island beach, okay?
Well, you can close your eyes and you've got a picture of sand and the sun and the seagulls and the waves coming in.
That's not remote viewing.
That's daydreaming.
That's meditation.
That's meditation.
Follow me down the road.
You know what it is.
Let me give you this example.
Let's say I want you to remote view the Eiffel Tower.
Well, if I tell you, Mike, remote view the Eiffel Tower, I mean, immediately you've got a picture of the Eiffel Tower because you've either been there or you've seen pictures and films of it.
You know exactly what it is.
That's not remote viewing.
So what I have to do is give you what they call a coordinate number.
Now, this coordinate number actually doesn't really mean anything except when I come up with it, in my mind, I know that this coordinate number represents the Eiffel Tower.
Uh-huh.
And that thought form goes out on the universal energy grid.
And so when I give you that number, if you do remote viewing properly, then your mind subconsciously will gravitate towards that number and towards the Eiffel Tower that it represents.
And then, if you go through the protocols that they worked out at SRI and within the military, then pretty soon you're able to interrogate yourself.
And you go, well, is it...
Natural or man-made?
Well, it's man-made.
Okay, is it tall or short?
Well, it's tall.
Is it in North America?
No.
Is it in Europe?
Yes.
Is it in a big city?
Yes.
Start narrowing it down.
You start narrowing it down, then you've got people around it, and you've got this and that, and pretty soon you go, you know, I think that's the Eiffel Tower.
Hey, Jim, we've got to take a break.
We'll be right back, folks.
You're listening to an interview with Jim Mars.
Check out his website, JimMars.com, and we'll be right back after this break with more.
Welcome back to the Health Ranger Report here on TalkNetwork.com and the interview with Jim Mars, who is just an extraordinary investigative journalist, what I would consider one of the, quote, old-school journalists who actually engages in real journalism, asking questions.
What you see in the mainstream media today is mostly just parroting official state propaganda.
That's not journalism.
But Jim Mars conducts real journalism, and his latest book is called Population Control.
And Mike, the subtitle pretty well tells the story.
That was my question.
What's the subtitle?
Corporate...
How corporate owners are killing us.
That's right.
Now this is, you know...
I think this is one of my most important books because it directly affects every single individual.
We all eat food, we all drink water, and we all breathe the air.
And if they are putting poisons, literally poisons, in the food, in the air, in the water, then people need to be aware of this so they can protect themselves and their loved ones.
And, of course, I realize I'm kind of preaching to the choir here, Mike, because you, as the health ranger, you're always on to, you know, what are they putting in our food?
What are they putting in our water?
But your book, actually, I learned a lot from reading your book.
A lot of new things in there that I wasn't even aware of.
In fact, I bought a copy of your book for every one of my editors and told them to read the book so that they had a better understanding.
Wow.
Especially the historical context of the cover-ups and what's gone into the foods and the water.
And your book also covers war, the war racket.
Yeah.
And energy?
Yeah, something I found out that just kind of blew me away is I'd always heard that the United States is the arms merchant of the world.
And so in the back of my mind, I guess I kind of knew that.
But then I get to looking at these congressional reports and I find that between, say, 2000 and 2012-13, the United States provided over 78% of the weaponry that are sold and given and handed out all around the world.
Really?
That much?
78%.
Now, and I immediately thought because, hey, I was brought up during the Cold War and we had to worry about the Russians.
They were about to nuke us, you know, and we have to be concerned about China.
So I checked.
Russia, you know, they produce 5% of the world's arms.
Wow.
And China, great big China, makes everything we find at Walmart, they only produce 3% of the world's arms.
Wow.
That's crazy.
So, 8% of the world's arms come from Russia or China.
78% comes from the United States.
Wow.
Now, the real irony of that is, so while we're spreading weapons all over the world, here at home, they're trying to take weapons away from the average American, right?
Good point.
Yeah, that's a very good point.
And it also brings up two things, where the weapon industry has to make sure that there continues to be conflict all over the world.
Absolutely.
That's their business model.
Yeah.
It's just like the cancer industry doesn't want to cure cancer because they need people to have cancer so they can keep making money.
Well, there's more people making a living from cancer than dying from it.
That's true.
And as long as that's the case, then they're never going to find a cure.
Are there more people making a living off of weapons than dying from weapons?
Probably.
Maybe so, yeah.
Well, particularly since so many of the people that are getting killed with the weapons are in third world countries.
Well, that's exactly true.
And that's part of the plan, too.
You mean those laser-guided bombs are not colorblind?
They aim for brown people?
That's right.
Well, they only fire them off in brown people countries.
That's right.
So they figure they're bound to hit some brown people.
Yeah.
Well, wasn't there a recent revelation?
I think The Intercept covered this about the statistics of civilians killed by U.S. drone strikes.
And every strike kills, I think, four out of five people killed are innocent civilians.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and then here very recently we had the instance where there was a U.S. drone strike that hit a hospital and even killed some of the doctors without borders.
And I've kind of looked into that and what I think happened there was is they hit that hospital intentionally with the idea of blaming it on the Russians.
So they could say, you know, don't Don't come in here.
You're going to cause a problem.
But somehow their false flag project kind of fell apart, and everybody realized it was a U.S. drone, and so we kind of got caught with egg on our face.
I say our face.
Come on, Mike.
This is not you.
This is not me.
This is not the American people.
This is the criminal oligarchs that have taken control of the federal government.
Absolutely, and every once in a while their false flags blow up in their faces.
Right.
Now, back to your point where you said they're trying to take away weapons from us, the citizens.
You know, by doing that, aren't they making America more vulnerable to a foreign invasion someday by the Russians or the Chinese?
Absolutely.
You know, the one country in the world that over the past several hundred years that has not been invaded is Switzerland.
So let's look at Switzerland.
What do they do about firearms?
They require every able-bodied man to keep a firearm in his home.
An actual battle rifle.
I mean a battle rifle.
That's right.
And of course they're lucky because they're in a little country surrounded by mountains and a handful of people can hold those passes.
But you've got to have arms.
And I would also point out that Switzerland, I've been in Israel, and in Israel, you know, every three or four people is carrying an Uzi or an AK-47 or an AR-15 or some kind of weapon.
In fact, it blew me away going down the public streets and seeing these beautiful women in their khaki uniforms, and they got Uzi slung under their shoulders.
You know, you're really nice to them.
Right.
You don't go, hey, sweetie.
Not when she's got a machine gun slung under her arm.
But anyway, so the point being is that in these countries like Switzerland, like Israel, where everybody goes around armed, don't they have, you know, crushing crime statistics?
No, not at all.
In fact, they're the safest countries around.
And why the so-called liberals can't get this through their head, I don't understand.
In fact, their efforts to take away weapons has pretty much backfired.
That's true.
Because every time they set up one of these stage shootings, or at least publicize something overly, gun sales go up.
Because people go, bam, I'm going to go defend myself.
That's true.
They have expanded the profitability of the gun manufacturing industry.
Right.
I think following Sandy Hook, there were tens of millions of new guns purchased by private citizens.
Exactly.
In fact, I've heard it said that Barack Obama is the top salesman for the nation's arm manufacturers.
That's right.
Both times he got elected, gun sales went through the roof.
Oh, as they should.
And don't forget that Ben Carson, presidential candidate, was attacked for saying that if the Jews had been armed in World War II, they could have made it more difficult for the Germans to round them up and commit the Holocaust.
That's exactly right.
Amazingly, the liberal media has no understanding of history.
They think that gun confiscation did not happen.
I guess they think that Hitler was this super nice guy or something.
Yeah, right.
No, we've paralleled Nazi Germany.
In 1933, January, the Germans, one of the most cultured and sophisticated peoples in the world, they had a democratic republic, the Weimar Republic.
And then somebody burned down their parliament building, the Reichstag.
Who could that have been?
And in that slower...
Quieter time.
That was as big an affront to the German people as the World Trade Centers were to us.
That's right.
And just like us, Hitler got up and said, well, here, give me the power and I'll go after those communist terrorists.
Okay, well, it turned out, of course, the Nazis said it themselves.
Yes.
This is a classic false flag.
But everybody got panicked and they passed the Enabling Act.
all the police departments and virtually created the Gestapo, the secret state police, set up detention centers for dissidents and radicals, which quickly evolved into the concentration camp system and all of that.
And we see the same thing happening today.
We had the attacks of 9-11, which still have not been clearly defined as who did what and Right.
And we were given a cover story that has not held up.
And then they passed the Patriot Act, you know, and without then the congressman that passed it didn't even read it.
Of course.
Now, you know, I don't know about you, but if I vote for some guy and he's voting on legislation that he doesn't even read, I want him fired.
Get him out of there.
And then, of course, then they created Homeland Security, which consolidated all the police departments in this country and is now moving us quickly and surely into a police state.
Well, now the Department of Justice is running the police of many large cities like New York, for example.
So yeah, they're federalizing local police.
At the same time, on the issue of climate change, we've seen now calls for people who don't agree with the official government narrative to be arrested and imprisoned for having a view on climate science that agrees with satellite data and not with the regime in power.
Right.
Well, you know, I may be old and getting infirm and kind of flaky in my thinking, but that seems to me to be a clear violation of the First Amendment in the Constitution of the United States, which guarantees us freedom of speech.
Well, you're not allowed to have freedom of speech if your speech disagrees with their speech.
Or if it violates political correctness, that's beginning to bother the heck out of me.
Well, let's talk about in the next segment, we've got a minute left here, but isn't it true that the left is now the most intolerant group in society?
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
If they can't come up with a valid counter-argument, then they just shout you down.
And you know what?
This is nothing new.
This is exactly what the Communist Party did in Russia.
This is exactly what the Nazi Party did in Germany.
Yes.
Yeah, with a gun to your head.
Yeah.
Because you were disarmed.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, that explains the disarmament effort.
All right, well, folks, we're talking to Jim Mars here.
Check out his website at jimmars.com.
That's Mars with two R's, M-A-R-R-S. His most recent book is called Population Control.
Right?
Is that it?
Yeah.
Population control.
Okay, check for that at Amazon and other booksellers.
And he also has a radio show here on TalkNetwork.com called The View from Mars.
So check out that show.
Just go to TalkNetwork.com.
We'll be right back after this break with more from Jim Mars.
This is the Health Ranger Report here on TalkNetwork.com, and we're joined today, our continuing conversation with Jim Mars.
He's an author, an investigative researcher, one of my favorite people of all time.
He's also a fellow Texan, so we always happen to have a Texan on the show.
And he's got a show here on TalkNetwork.com called A View from Mars, with a subhead, is the Search for Intelligent Life Here on Earth.
I like that title, Jim.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, sometimes when I read and see the news, I have to wonder, you know, is there any intelligent life on this planet?
You know, seriously, society has changed so much in just the last 20 years, and there is a massive dumbing down that has really kicked into high gear.
I read recently that I think public school students in Detroit who do nothing get a C automatically.
So your average, if you fail...
Right.
And to get an A, probably you only have to be literate.
I've had some educators argue that with me, you know, and they say, well, we don't want people, we don't want these kids to feel bad about themselves.
And my comeback is, well, how good are they going to feel about themselves when they're 50 years old and they can't read or write and they're, you know, relegated to selling pencils on the street corner?
Right.
Right.
Well, and also, what about when they go to college?
And at college, they're going to have, if they go to college, but college is a big scam, too.
We can talk about that.
Colleges are getting dumbed down, too.
Totally.
Totally dumbed down.
But even if they go there, they're going to get students from Korea, from Taiwan, India, students that are academically way ahead, like five, six years ahead of them.
There's no question about that, and the test scores show it.
But, you know, it even goes more fundamental than that.
Here's what bothers me, Mike, is that when I was in junior high school, maybe high school back in the 50s and early 60s, if you didn't go along with the program, you know, then if you were a rugged individualist, okay, and the people, you know, were kind of looked up to, James Dean type, okay?
Yeah.
Oh, he's a rebel, but, oh, man, he's his own man.
And, of course, we had the Marlboro Man, you know?
Right.
Right.
Cowboy guy, you know, unfortunately advertising cigarettes.
But, you know, the whole idea was the rugged individual, the type of people who took it upon themselves to build this country and turn it into something, you know.
Well, we have Caitlyn Jenner now.
She's an individual.
Yeah, well, today it's like, no, no, you can't.
You have to be like everybody else.
You know, we're not going to have any winners in this race because we don't want to have any losers, you know.
And so, boy, what a namby-pamby-pabbly nothing, you know.
I mean, it's not It's not conducive to producing productive citizens.
Well, and also in the military, think about this.
The military is being feminized.
We have this sensitivity training and political correctness and the neutering of the male energy in the military.
I was thinking, if we ever go to war with Russia, let's say, and we have a land war, you know, war is determined by supply lines.
Yes.
And the Russian supply lines are going to be ammo and fuel, and the American supply lines are going to be...
Chocolates.
Yeah.
Like, what are they going to be, feminine hygiene products for the front-line women fighters and for the men, political correctness guides, comic books they have to read?
You know, seriously, war is a male business.
Let's be honest about it.
I mean, it's getting so bad today that not only in the military but in corporate America, you know, if you have a good-looking female who is a co-worker and you say, hey, you're looking good today, uh-oh, man, I mean, you could open yourself up to sexual harassment, you know, blah, blah, blah.
It's insane.
It's just insane.
And the only thing where I differ from a whole lot of people is that most people would agree that political correctness has just gone out of sight.
It's insane.
They stop before I get there when I say that this didn't just happen.
This has been society molded and manipulated to create the very type of confusion and conflict and divisiveness that we see in this country today.
Because, you see, people who want to run the world, one of the biggest roadblocks to that would be a homogenous and united American public.
Who, if it got to push and shove and they didn't want to do it, would be armed and would say, no, we're not going to do it.
So they have to disarm us.
They have to divide us.
They have to keep us all fighting with each other.
And it doesn't matter.
It could be over anything.
It could be over race, it could be over religion, homosexual versus heterosexual, you know, just anything, anything to keep us all fighting with each other.
Well, they're very good at that, and you make a good point.
There's a very small number of global elite who have to control a very large number of people who could overrun them if they all decided to.
Exactly.
Very quickly.
And so, yeah, we have the police, the attack on the police from the left, saying that all police are criminal murderers now.
That's what Quentin Tarantino had just got blamed for taking part in that march.
And of course, we've got the race wars, like you mentioned, black against white, often is how they portray it, or white against black, whatever.
You know who I really feel sorry for are the vast majority of black citizens who are honest, God-fearing, hardworking people.
And they are getting dragged into this whole thing because of a very small minority of black people.
Sure.
According to the FBI statistics, this isn't me ranting or trying to be racist.
You know, you've got a small percentage of 13% of the population that are committing up to 80% of violent crimes.
And then, all I hear is, well, there's a disproportionate number of blacks in the prison system.
Well, duh!
There's a disproportionate number of blacks committing the violent crimes that require imprisonment.
Although, I'll admit, let me back off, there's all kinds of issues, all kinds of things going on.
For example, drugs.
Our prison systems are overflowing, and most of the people in their own drug offenses.
That's what I wanted to point out, is that I think a lot of the black men in prison have been arrested for pot possession.
Yeah.
A lot of white kids get off scot-free for that same crime.
Well, that's because we have the best criminal justice system that money can buy.
Of course, right, right.
But then, of course, the whole idea that a plant can be criminalized.
Meanwhile, the drug companies are drugging everybody, but especially white kids.
With hazardous chemicals.
Of course.
See, the only reason they want marijuana illegal is so that the drug companies can make all the money drugging kids instead of local marijuana growers.
Well, it's my understanding that the biggest chunk of money that has been put up to fight the legalization of marijuana comes from the alcohol industry.
That's interesting.
And I think it's true.
Because I think if people realized that they could do a little bit of marijuana and feel really good and then wake up the next morning feeling great.
Without a hangover.
Without a hangover.
And it would not cause near the familia destruction that we see with alcohol.
I think people would begin to wean themselves off of alcohol.
And I think the alcohol industry understands this and they're fearful of it.
I'm sure that's the case.
But I also know that one of the California ballot measure a while back that was for legalizing marijuana was viciously opposed by the marijuana growers because they get a high price because marijuana is illegal.
That's true.
The criminal element.
Right.
It's so profitable to sell an illegal substance.
If it's legalized, more people grow it, the price plummets.
And by the way, this is something that a lot of people are learning in Colorado all of a sudden.
They were doing the math on how much money they could make growing marijuana when the price was sky-high black market.
Yeah, because it was black market.
And now that's cheap.
Right.
The price is plummeting because everybody's growing it.
You can get a license.
You can grow it.
See, that's the problem.
That's why they had to keep it illegal because once you legalize it, no matter what form, no matter what the law says, then all of a sudden people can just put a seed in the ground and grow it themselves.
That's right.
Now, I think there will always be a marijuana industry, though, and here's why.
This was one of the arguments used to stop the end of prohibition.
They said, number one, everybody would turn into a drunk if alcohol was legal again, and that everyone would start making their own alcohol.
It's hard work.
Neither one happened, okay?
Actually, alcoholism went down following the legalization of alcohol.
And, of course, today, yes, I don't know if you people listening, I don't know if you know this or not, but by law, you can make several gallons of beer, okay?
You can make some alcohol.
You're just not supposed to sell it, okay?
But you make your own.
Actually, I know a few people who enjoy making beer as a hobby.
That's right.
But how many people actually are going to go to all that trouble to try to brew some beer when they go down to the 7-Eleven and buy a six-pack?
That's right.
Yeah.
Well, hey, you can make your own alcohol, you can make your own firearms, and you can grow and roll your own tobacco.
So alcohol, tobacco, and firearms...
Department.
You could actually bypass all that if you wanted to.
If you wanted to be a free citizen.
It's a lot of effort, though.
Yes, it is.
To grow all that.
Speaking of, I wondered for a long time, how did mankind learn how to, or humankind, Trying to be politically correct.
There you go.
How do humans learn to make beer?
Because I can understand wine.
You know, some grapes fell down, lay on the ground, got fermented.
A thirsty caveman came along and ate them anyway and then got a little buzz and said, oh, this is cool.
So he squeezed them and started making wine, okay?
But beer, you've got to have hops and malts and sugar and various chemicals and you have to let it sit and then you have to, you know, time goes by and you have to let it ferment.
It's kind of a complicated formula.
Well, it just tells you how many crazy things people tried, and most of them didn't work.
Yeah, but when I track back to find out who actually figured out how to make beer, and the answer is nobody really knows.
But I did track it back to the earliest civilization known on this planet, which was the Sumar in the Sumerians, between the Tigris-Euphrates River, which is generally accepted as kind of where the Garden of Eden was.
had apparently four types of beer.
I don't think any of them were light.
No light beer or not.
And so did they tell us how they figured out and where they got beer?
Yes, they did.
They said they got it from the Anunnaki.
Really?
And the Anunnaki translates as those who came from the heavens and landed on the earth.
You know what?
I want to ask you more about that in our next segment.
We have about, I guess about a minute left here.
But, wow, that's fascinating.
What about the history of metallurgy?
How did these people figure out how to combine these metals to make strong alloys?
Well, in the ancient Chinese, in the Vedas of the Hindus, the legends of the To Aztecs and Mayans and to the Sumerians and the Egyptians.
They all tell the same story.
They were taught this by people who flew in through the skies and came down to the earth.
Wow.
Interesting.
All right, we're going to get into that in the next segment, the last final segment with Jim Mars here.
So you're listening to the Health Ranger Report on TalkNetwork.com.
Jim Mars has his own show on our network.
What day does it air, Jim?
I think it's Monday evenings, but I think we're talking to maybe moving it, so just check.
Checktalknetwork.com for the schedule, and the show is called The View from Mars, Search for Intelligent Life on Earth.
That's right.
All right, we'll be right back after this.
Alright, welcome back.
This is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, here on TalkNetwork.com, interviewing Jim Mars.
He's also the author of a book called Our Occulted History, which we're going to get into in this segment, which talks about, really, a technology transfer from ancient aliens to early human civilizations.
So, Jim, just starting off, let's say someone's listening to this and they don't believe that there's any other life in this entire cosmos other than human life.
I know that seems like a really, really incredibly narrow-minded idea.
No, that's the way it was when I was growing up in the 40s, 50s, okay?
Really?
I think today we don't really see that so much because we have whole generations that have been brought up on Star Trek and Star Wars and you know blah blah blah and so you try to talk to them about spaceships and aliens they just go yeah okay.
It doesn't necessarily mean that they accept it or wholeheartedly believe in that, but they're certainly open to the concept, and they understand the concept.
I remember my mother, early on, back in the 50s, I was reading science fiction.
I was reading Robert Heinlein and Ray Bradbury and Isaac Asimov.
And I was telling her, hey, we're going to have rockets.
We're going to go to space.
We're going to put up satellites that circle the Earth.
And my good old Southern Baptist mom said, quit filling your head with that nonsense.
You know, said, well, there's nothing outside of this earth and blah, blah, blah.
And I'll never forget that fall day, I think it was in 1954, that I came home and the newspaper was on the front doorstep.
I picked it up and it said, Russians launch Sputnik into space.
And I went in and I held it up and I said, look, Mom, see what I've been talking about?
She never said another thing about reading science fiction.
And that was even before the Russians launched Cosmonauts.
Oh yeah, that was before we put the dog, Laika, or the monkeys, or the other cosmonauts into orbit.
But specifically, what your book talks about is this technology transfer from advanced civilizations, non-Earth civilizations, to ancient human civilizations.
That's true.
The idea of ancient astronauts, people in antiquity who were able to not only fly through the air, I know that sounds like some kind of wild science fiction.
And yet, if you'll study the oldest cultures on the world, you know, the Hindus and the Australian...
Aborigines and the ancient Sumerians, the ancient Egyptians, the ancient Chinese.
They all talk about people flying through the air and people that came and visited them and taught them things.
That's true.
They taught them math.
They taught them science.
They taught them agriculture.
You know, in fact, it's really fascinating because you would think that if agriculture and the development of food crops, you would think that that would evolve around lakes and rivers where there's good, rich, you know, wet...
Soil and everything and then spread outward into deserts and into mountains and all like that.
But the truth of the matter is, and they don't really know how to explain this, that domesticated crops actually began high in the mountains and then came down.
And the reason that is a great big huh is because if you go back to the Bible and the story of Noah, you know, after the flood he landed on Mount Ariad.
And they began to, civilization began all again in these mountaintops and then moved downwards.
Now, you mentioned the Bible.
There are many reports in the Bible that could easily be interpreted as interaction with ancient astronauts.
Absolutely.
I think Ezekiel is the prime example of that.
And I want to tell you something.
Ezekiel was a pretty good reporter.
He starts off in the book of Ezekiel.
He didn't say, just one day I was eating mushrooms.
He said, in the sixth day of King so-and-so, I was by the river Shubar, and blah, blah, blah.
And he gives a very detailed description of where he was, what was happening.
He said he heard this big roaring sound, and he looks up and he sees this whirlwind and dust and stuff going.
He hears this sound.
He sees he doesn't know what it is.
Okay?
So the best he can do, the only way he describes it, and it's been translated down to us today...
Is a vision of God.
He saw a vision of God.
Which could have been lights or engine blasts or something.
Exactly.
And in fact, to prove that he wasn't just talking about daydreaming, he talked about something, a real tangible object that he called the vision of God.
Because, you keep reading, he said the vision of God landed over here.
The vision of God took me up.
The vision of God took me over here, and we landed on this mountaintop, and there was a city there.
And he gives very detailed descriptions and even measurements of the gate and of the walls and everything else, you know?
So it's quite obvious that he's talking about some kind of real object.
In fact, as he's being shown around in this city, he says, well, what's in that building?
And they said, well, you can't go in there.
And he says, why not?
And they said, well, that's where the vision of God is, you know?
It's a hanger.
It's a hanger.
It's obvious that he's talking about something very real and tangible.
Well, when I lived in South America, I went into a museum of ancient artifacts of the Inca.
And, of course, there's that one model of, it looks like kind of a space shuttle aircraft almost.
Oh, the one with the triangular wings?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes, and it's been dated to be very, very old, obviously, long before.
About 2,000 years, something like that?
Yes, something like that.
Yeah, and by the way, I mention that in my book, Our Occulted History.
They, of course, have tried to brush that off, the debunkers, and say, oh, those are just stylized bees.
Bees?
Yeah, insects.
No.
Bees don't have triangle wings.
They don't have triangle wings for one thing.
They don't have a tail.
Right.
A vertical stabilizer, actually.
But to actually prove that that was based on something that actually flew is there were some Germans here a few years ago that took one of those little bee ornaments and they built it into a model about, I don't know, three or four foot long.
With the triangular wings, the tail, exactly as it is, and put a motor on it, it flew.
It flew.
It flew just fine, okay?
So it's aerodynamically stable.
Exactly, exactly.
And by the way, in my book, Our Occulted History, when I use the term occulted, we're not talking about vampires or voodoo or anything like that.
I'm using it in the astronomical sense, meaning when the moon...
Eclipses the sun.
That's called an occultation.
So it simply means our hidden history.
And there is so much history of humankind that's been hidden from us.
Well, it also, I think, helps explain, you know, there were really leaps in human knowledge and understanding throughout ancient history that seemed to be very difficult to explain in just discovery.
In evolutionary terms.
Exactly, right.
But also the knowledge base.
Like, you know, we were talking about metallurgy or even the art of making beer, for example.
But there are other things, like advanced mathematics.
Perhaps they were discovered, but there seem to be some technologies that were handed over.
There's gaps and there's leaps.
Right.
In fact, we have experienced one of these leaps in technology during our lifetimes.
If you go back to the technology that was in general use up to about 1950 and then come forward, I mean, there has been a quite literal explosion of technology.
The integrated circuit.
Yes.
That is a huge leap between...
Okay, let me explain what I'm talking about.
You've got your car, you've got your automobile.
Now you go back and you find out that the cars, of course, came from horse-drawn wagons.
And then they put a motor on them.
And they were bunky and square, you know, and then in the 30s they had big wide fenders and early on they looked like horse-drawn wagons with motor.
And then they got more and more slick until you got today with all the modern cars.
That's an evolutionary movement, okay?
Yeah.
But then you've got like, you mentioned integrated circuits and lasers and things like that.
There's a gap there.
There's no evolutionary jump.
All of a sudden, this exploded starting about 1950.
And what was going on in 1950?
You had 1947 Roswell, which they claim we got alien technology.
You've got Aztec.
You've got several other notable crash retrievals where they said we had obtained extraterrestrial technology.
Uh-huh.
And it certainly in my book goes a lot further to explain these leaps in technology than to think that evolution just kind of takes a huge jump.
Well, surely, I mean, there must be cases where scientists have some kind of eureka breakthrough moment on their own.
Sure.
But, as you're saying, perhaps that can't account for all these leaps.
Well, as an example, Colonel Corso wrote a book before he died, and he said he was one of the ones in the military that was passing along alien technology into the civilian thing.
And, for example, night vision, okay?
Right.
He said he took a lens that they had gotten from Roswell, from the crashed saucer, and he took that one time, one day, to a guy who was working on night vision and simply showed it to him.
And the guy went, wow!
And he saw what it was made of, how it was made, there was like, anyway.
And he said, where'd this come from?
And Corso said, from France.
Sounds like the Coneheads, right?
And then he went away.
And so today, this fellow who is credited with night vision did work on night vision, did have the great breakthrough.
I see.
But he was programmed into it by a simple visit one time.
There's a storyline about this in the Terminator movies where developing the Terminator, they had a breakthrough by being able to have access to the microchip that was saved from the Terminator in the first movie.
Right.
And I remember, was it Dyson?
He was saying, yeah, it led us in directions we never could have imagined before.
Right.
Yeah, that's exactly the way it works.
And see, that's not to be putting down human ingenuity and inventiveness.
We've got a lot of sharp people, but something has to spark them.
Something has to give them the idea.
That's right.
Well, like if we today, if someone from 50 years in the future came back in time, showed us some amazing technology, that would give us ideas of how to create that.
Right.
But there's a thin line there because, for example, if, say, you and I went back in time just a hundred years, a hundred years, that'd be like 1916, okay?
And we had one of these little handheld TV, color TVs that you can get at Radio Shack, and we showed it to somebody back then, a good bulk of them would say, that's magic.
Right.
They'd probably burn us at the stake or hang us, you know?
Yeah, probably, especially if that TV was playing CNN or something.
Right.
We'd really be in trouble.
Yeah, really.
We'd be in big trouble.
They'd see us broadcasting everybody who hates America and hates the Second Amendment and hates the founders of America.
They would think we're the devil.
Yeah.
Now it's just called mainstream media.
Yeah.
Well, I call it, there is no mainstream media.
There's only corporate advertising delivery systems.
That's well said.
Or the lamestream media, I've heard it said.
Anyway, we're out of time, Jim.
Thank you for all your time today.
Well, thank you so much.
And let's keep keeping everybody healthy, Ranger.
Okay, you got it.
Thank you, Jim.
And for all the listeners, check out Jim Mars' show here on TalkNetwork.com.
It's called The View from Mars.
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