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March 20, 2018 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Interview with Dr Andrew Wakefield about vaccines and autism
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Right now, and welcome back to the Robert Scott Bell Show.
Dr.
Andrew Wakefield, thank you for being a part of the show today, doctor.
Nice to be back, thank you.
Are you wearing your Kevlar bulletproof vest today?
That's right, I've got a few holes in it nonetheless.
My goodness, the mainstream media has been attacking like the vicious attack dogs of Big Pharma here.
But at the same time, you and I talked off the air, the parents are not buying this anymore.
It's not as easy to convince the parents of what they've seen is not real.
That after vaccines, there's some changes that are significant happening.
And as you acknowledged in your book, and we talked about last time, the gut damage leading to all kinds of havoc.
That's absolutely right.
I mean, the problem is real.
And if it weren't real, it would have gone away a long time ago.
And I've been doing this for nearly 20 years now.
And I think what we're looking at is a system, regulators, vaccine manufacturers and others who are...
Why won't these people go away?
Why don't parents believe us?
And they don't believe them.
They don't believe the government because there is a real problem.
The parents know it.
The parents trust their instincts and they know it.
And there have never been so many children with chronic, debilitating, immune and inflammatory conditions.
And there is something definitely going on.
Well, and it's hard to, at this point, as you say, and I acknowledge, too, as a parent, if you witness your children healthy, happy, functioning, and you go in to get a series or a shot or a series of shots, and suddenly there's a downturn in function, in awareness, and connection to the world...
You are never going to be able to convince that parent that the vaccine didn't have something to do with it.
And as I've acknowledged as a homeopath witnessing this even in my own personal life, how it impacted my young childhood, that there is definitely collateral damage associated with these allopathic interventions.
And vaccine is the sacrament they do not want you to question.
That's right.
And it's put itself, they've tried to put it into an almost sort of religious arena that one isn't allowed to question it.
And it's not subjected to the same testing as drugs are.
The rules that apply in terms of regulation are much laxer of vaccines.
It seems to have got through under the radar.
And they are putting more and more and more vaccines.
There are now some 200 new vaccines.
In trials, many of which are intended to be mandated for children and adults.
And that comes on top of an incredibly onerous regimen of vaccines.
So the attack on me has effectively been a displacement.
It's been trying to deflect the attention away from the vaccine issue to saying, here's the guy who caused it all, here's the guy who started it, and he's to blame and it's all false.
No, it isn't.
It's not false.
There was no fraud in our work and it has been now substantiated.
Dr.
Wakefield, since when is it that a journalist gets to publish stuff in medical journals?
Because this dear guy is just a journalist, and suddenly now he's thrust as an expert in this realm.
It is extraordinary that the British Medical Journal, once a reputable medical journal, has handed itself over to a journalist with an agenda.
Let me just give you a little bit of background on Brian Deer, because...
Yeah, we've got another minute until break, and then we'll continue on.
But go ahead and start with that.
I'll be at these very quick, but I just want to give your listeners some context about this man.
When he first became involved in the autism question, when he first approached a parent, that is, Mrs.
Rosemary Keswick, The first mother who ever contacted me was a child who had developed bowel disease and regression into autism following a vaccine.
He interviewed her under a false name.
He gave her a false name.
He gained access to the home of a bereaved mother with a severely damaged child under a false name.
Now, once a liar, I'm afraid always a liar, and that is a measure of the man.
And if people know that and people are aware of that, then they can put into context what has followed on from that point.
Well, that's what we need to do here.
And in addition, you've got Paul Offit.
They call him Paul Profit.
Vaccine Profit has been a major attack dog and defender of the vaccine industry against all questioners, whether they be parents or whether they be scientists.
I want to talk to a doctor.
By the way, we're talking with Dr.
Andrew Wakefield, the author of Callous Disregard, the man who has become target number one, replacing WikiLeaks because of what he has found out about the damage of vaccination to the gut of children and the subsequent autism spectrum.
We've got more on that after this break.
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This is a special edition of the Robert Scadbell Radio Show.
Special broadcast alert.
We have Dr.
Andrew Wakefield in the house.
Dr.
Wakefield, the author of Callous Disregard and at the center of a storming controversy, not controversial to us here in the United States of Health Talk radio listening audience because we've been following this for years and years and recognize The danger of vaccination and the irresponsible blanket use like a religious sacrament of vaccination.
And of course, those who question it within and without the medical profession, we acknowledge and do our level best to prop up, back up, protect.
Dr.
Wakefield joins me now again.
One of the first interviews we're able to get.
Following this major attack by Offit and this dear journalist who suddenly got elevated to some status that he certainly has not earned in regards to integrity.
And Dr.
Wakefield, with his findings, simply pointing out the facts that he found regarding the damage and danger of Max.
He's now under attack in the media.
Recently attacked by, oh, good old Gloria Vanderbilt's son, isn't it?
Anderson Cooper at CNN. How was that?
Yes, I think that the media themselves, the mainstream media, are feeling extremely frustrated.
In other words, they've been trying to convey the message of their sponsors and their advertisers that this is all safe and fine, and they cannot understand why people don't believe them.
And I think that this happens for two reasons.
One is that they have sort of given in to their sponsors and advertisers rather than catering to a balanced and fair, honest appraisal of the news in respect of vaccines and other drugs.
And then, on the other hand, people are trusting instincts more.
And we saw a survey a year ago showing that 25% of parents in America believe that vaccines cause autism.
That's remarkable in as much that we've done nothing in terms of public relations other than to take a good battering from these people.
This year I saw a similar thing just a couple of days ago showing that 61% of parents now believe that vaccines cause autism.
Now, there may be some differences in the way these studies were done, but nonetheless that does not reflect well on the ability of the mainstream media to convey a message because people simply don't believe them.
And Anderson Cooper's attack on me, he called me a liar because I'd said the book had been replicated.
Well, our work, our findings in the Lancet paper were of a novel bowel disease in children with autism, and that's now been replicated in many countries around the world and published.
And yet, you know, he comes on the show and calls me a liar.
Now, he needs to get better informed because if he's going to make that kind of allegation, Then he's going to drive the reputation of the mainstream media even further down.
Well, yes.
And, you know, funny enough, on CNN, I saw another interview conducted by another one of their talking heads and interviewed the head of Generation Rescue to counteract and sort of defend the position that we have and understand.
And he actually allowed him to speak.
So there are chinks in the armor.
They are allowing another message through, and I think they have no choice or else parents and masks are flocking away from the mainstream media message and getting their news from sources that are not conflicted with interest pharmaceuticals.
I think that the power of social media and the internet has been wonderful in many ways because it has allowed people to communicate information that is not dependent on mainstream media.
And sadly, the mainstream media has given itself over so much to the advertising dollars, largely from the pharmaceutical industry.
Yeah, indeed.
That's the conflicts of interest we're talking about here.
And, of course, they're very dangerous and, in fact, deadly in the case when you witness the, I think, $1.5 or $2 billion paid out through the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Act that was passed in the 1980s.
So this is not a small little side occasional thing.
This is happening every day, and yet they fight for it tooth and nail, which seems to me incongruent with the concept of a culture of life that they claim they want to protect.
That's right.
And you have to be honest with people.
If you are not honest with people, and they ultimately find out that you've been deceiving them, that you've been misleading them, either by underestimating the problem or, frankly, lying about the problem, then you're going to try...
Confidence, public confidence in all public health policy.
And that could be catastrophic.
But they've only got themselves to blame.
And people, you need to be honest with people.
You have to be honest with people.
You have to treat people with respect.
Irrespective of people's educational level or their training or their profession, their instinct, their instinct tells them there is a real problem here.
And that is an instinct that one has to trust.
You're listening to the Robert Scott Bell Show.
We're interviewing Dr.
Andrew Wakefield, the author of Callous Disregard.
We had him on last year, and now, of course, the attacks have ratcheted up in a big way as they claim the published studies were fraudulent.
They pulled it back.
We predicted this at the time when Dr.
Wakefield was on with us last year, that this would likely happen.
It's happening now.
Dr.
Wakefield, having been shunned by the vaccinologist, it's a badge of honor in my mind, but what can you do now that is different that we didn't have access to once you mentioned the social networks, but other means by which many in your community, the medical community, have acknowledged what you have and are doing their level best, but yet they're being attacked by the regulators.
One of the stories I'm going to be covering a little later is the FDA attacking intravenous vitamin C. Yes, it's very sad.
I think that one of the things they've put out there is that I'm the only person who believes this, that I'm isolated amongst my colleagues and that I'm a lone wolf and therefore dangerous.
Now, I've just come back from a vaccine safety meeting in Jamaica where there were experts from around the world.
There were medical journal editors, there were ex and current vaccine regulators, and everybody expressed concerns about the lack of safety studies, the lack of long-term safety studies, the lack of any understanding of the way in which these agents can cause harm, multiple vaccines, adjuvants, things that boost the immune system and vaccines such as aluminum, There is so much that is not known.
And for people to take a didactic position that these are safe in the face of that ignorance is unacceptable.
Yeah, indeed.
Of course, you ask about the safety testing, the long-term safety testing.
Of course, the safety testing with multiple vaccinations or a number of vaccines given at the same time have not been conducted.
Yet they would claim what you do is fraudulent and somehow unscientific, which is ludicrous on its face and dangerous, even worse than that, because it is convincing and preying on those who are not aware and not listening to the alternate sources of the people from within and without the medical community.
And I reiterate, I have had medical professions on my program for 10 years now that have stood with this concept and stand by you and support what you're doing.
Yes, I think that one of their fears is that that number, the number of scientists and doctors and other health care professionals who are joining.
I think one of the things that really focused people's attention on this was the H1N1 scam, whereby those in the front line, many doctors and nurses refused, just simply refused to have the vaccine on the basis that it was not adequately tested for safety and had There's things in it that they really didn't want injected into their bodies.
And, of course, the H1N1 outbreak turned out to be nothing, a damn squib.
And so a lot of people looked at that and thought, wow, this is just a revenue stream for the pharmaceutical industry and has nothing to do with protecting individuals from All right, stand by.
I've got one more segment with Dr.
Andrew Wakefield, and he has to go off and do some other media interviews.
We've got a lot more to cover here on the Robert Scott Bell Radio Show.
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In the meantime, I'll link through to it all.
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Alright, we've got lots more to come up.
Vitamin C attacked.
Congress attacked.
Also, Stuart Tomp returns with the Essential Fat Update a little later.
We'll hear from my good friend Scott Kennedy.
We're talking about children being irradiated by big medicine.
That's right.
Ionizing radiation tests are finding out that they're over-radiating them and then the airports as well.
But right now, I've got one more segment here with Andrew Wakefield.
Dr. Wakefield, the author of the book, Callous Disregard.
I've got that link.
We also have another website I want to send you to to keep you up to date called autismfile.com.
Is that correct, Dr. Wakefield?
That's correct, yes.
Now, they've attacked you on many different fronts.
Maybe we can cover a couple of these in this last segment of the attacks and how they're wrong.
Yes, certainly.
And Deere's allegations, the allegations from the UK freelance journalist, really were made last year.
They were published in the Sunday Times last year.
So the latest attack involves no new claims at all, nothing new.
And what I did at the time was to go into exquisite detail, which is in a chapter in the book, called Deere, appropriately, and addressing every single one of those allegations and showing why he was wrong.
I'll give you one example.
For example, you said there was a discrepancy or discrepancies between the children's general practitioner records that were taken some years before and the records at the Royal Free.
In other words, we had somehow manipulated the records at the Royal Free to make them different from the general practitioner's records.
That is impossible.
We could not have access to the general practitioner records.
At the time, we had absolutely no access.
We would take histories from the parents afresh.
We would start again and we would take the history.
And what we relied upon was the story as told to us by the parents.
And that turned out to be accurate.
And when you go back to analyze the discrepancies that he alluded to, then his claims, his actual claims, are false.
And so the substance of that, I went to great trouble to actually putting a setting out in detail in the book.
And he was, on that basis, referred to The Press Complaints Commission in the UK, which is a sort of regulatory body for journalists, and he has yet to face that.
But in his latest claims in the British Medical Journal, he says that Press Complaints Commission hearing or complaint is now defunct.
No, it's not.
It's active.
It's live.
He is going to have to answer to the Press Complaints Commission.
So, again, just...
An illustration of the dishonesty, the manipulation that is a feature, a characteristic of the way he writes.
Yeah, it's very clear those that can look through the surface or below it, but as I said, they're preying on the people that are still a worshipful of authority.
And I've had many doctors over the years that become disillusioned with their own profession because of the corruption of the culture of big pharma's encroachment.
Like you just mentioned, the H1N1 scam and the fact that they found even at the World Health Organization conflicts of interest with big pharma there.
So, you know, you're losing this, let's say, this area of an area where people really still trust and they still do trust doctors by and large.
But then again, many of them are defecting and those are the ones that are having to attack.
You right now are the latest and greatest example.
Yeah, I think it's very, very sad.
Once you, you know, the public has for a long, long time held the medical profession in high regard, very high regard, and the medical profession has a very high standard to live up to, to deserve that respect, and it's going, it's eroded.
It's eroded because the way in which healthcare is funded, the way in which, for example, pediatricians will be reimbursed for five minutes of a consult.
Now, if you've ever dealt with a child with autism, then they need at least an hour to an hour and a half for a consult to work out what's going on in this very complex problem.
Now, if you, as a doctor, can't get reimbursed for anything but five minutes of that hour and a half, then you're going to We're not going to see those children.
We're not going to give them the time and investigation that they need.
And they're going to see those consequences.
And I think the system is so skewed against this kind of child, this child with a chronic, complex sickness.
And really, it is so sad.
It breaks my heart every time I see it happen.
Yeah, indeed.
Well, you've got the heart.
You're doing the right thing.
We're going to continue to shout from the rooftops and from the Robert Scott Bell radio show.
And Dr.
Wakefield, I hope we can have you on real quick for more updates as this evolves.
Thank you very much.
It's been a great place.
All right, everybody, check out Autism File.
I've got links up at robertscottbell.com.
That was Dr.
Andrew Wakefield.
We're coming right back with more powerful healing.
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