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March 15, 2018 - Health Ranger - Mike Adams
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Derrick Broze of The Conscious Resistance interviewed by the Health Ranger
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Welcome to my show.
Welcome, everyone.
This is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger here, editor of naturalnews.com and newstarget.com.
I'm joined today by a consciousness and freedom activist known as Derek Brose.
He's part of Freethinking Houston, and his website is theconsciousresistance.com, and he joins us here in the studio today to talk about freedom and the next phase of consciousness for humanity.
Derek, it's great to have you in the studio here.
Yeah, thanks for having me, Mike.
I appreciate it.
Well, let's start at the very beginning because maybe a lot of people in our audience don't necessarily know about your work and your books, so can you give us a brief introduction of who you are and how you came into this movement and what you stand for?
Sure, I'll try to keep it brief because, as you know, all of us have our stories of how we got to the point we are now on this journey.
But as an individual now, today in 2017, I'm an activist based in Houston, Texas.
I'm a freelance journalist.
I write for activistpost.com, the anti-media, Mint Press News.
I co-host a radio show in Houston on 90.1.
I work with the Houston Freethinkers still, and now I'm an author of three books.
Together, all that is the focus of really my entire life, is just trying to spend my energy from the moment I wake to the moment I go to sleep and promoting awareness, promoting freedom, promoting solutions to the many problems we're dealing with.
I've been on this path since about 2010 or so.
I had my awakening in 2009 and started to read about Ron Paul and read Jim Marr's Rule by Secrecy.
So I kind of got the conspiracy and the libertarian stuff at the same time.
And I've been on this journey since then.
It's definitely a spiritual journey as much as a political journey, you could say.
And you have a new tour that's launching right now.
That's one reason why I wanted to invite you in to help promote that tour.
And you told me that tour involves a lot of hands-on practical activities and skills teaching as well.
Can you describe what that tour is about and maybe some of the cities you're going to?
Absolutely.
So this tour is really the culmination of what I've been doing for seven years now.
When I started out as activism, the idea was I need to find people.
You know, I just started to realize there was things going on in the world.
So I would print out flyers and go put up flyers on street corners that said, there's poison in the tap water and things like that and just try to talk to people.
But the goal was ultimately Connecting, building relationships, trying to, one, help people be aware of the crimes of government and crimes of various institutions that affect our lives, and then to try to motivate them to seek solutions.
I didn't know what the solutions were exactly, but I just figured the more people who know, then the better off we will be.
And the tour is just an extension of that.
So it's called the Decentralize Your Life Tour, and that's the key message there, is decentralizing in the sense of not just unplugging from, say, the government, And not supporting them through taxation and things like that, but also looking at our entire lives.
And this is, I think, where your audience and you, you really help in the sense of food production and health.
So we're talking about decentralizing when it comes to currency.
So getting off the Federal Reserve note, our tour is sponsored by Bitcoin.com, one cryptocurrency.
You know, we think that not just cryptocurrencies, but alternative currencies in general, barter networks, anything that can get people away from the Federal Reserve note, that's decentralizing and lessen your dependence on that system, you know.
Anytime you're a part of a community garden or a backyard garden or growing your own food, producing, you know, taking care of your own health, then you're unplugging from the pharmaceutical complexes, you're unplugging from the Monsanto, you know, biotech companies, and you're not supporting factory farming and monocrops and all these sort of things that don't serve the health and the wealth of the people.
Also, you can see that these institutions, these industries, they benefit from handouts from the government as well.
The important thing, I believe, and my message has come to now getting people to ask themselves to look at their lives honestly and say, in which ways am I contributing to my own slavery or am I contributing to the things that I don't support?
You can be like, I hate that Monsanto is out there, but when you go buy their products or just genetically engineered products at the grocery store, you're contributing to that.
Right.
Absolutely.
Trying to unplug from that as much as possible.
So we're going now on tour, taking that message, combining spiritual awareness.
We're going to be doing meditations.
We're going to be doing community volunteering, what we're calling action days in every city.
So when we arrive in a city, for example, we're going to start in Houston June 1st.
Then we'll be in Austin.
We'll be all through Central Texas for anybody out here who wants to come hang out.
And we're going to arrive in the city.
We're going to go to some cities we're doing community volunteering at gardens.
So we'll be doing some permaculture activities.
Some cities were doing homeless outreach, and other cities were doing park cleanups.
It's a wide range of activities that are being organized by the people on the ground locally.
Well, you sound like a threat to society.
I mean, my God, you're going to help homeless people.
You might get arrested in Dallas.
Yeah, or even in Houston.
We've got the anti-food sharing ordinances in Houston, and we've got the anti-tent ordinances.
Yeah, you know, we're out there, we're being dangerous, trying to get people to understand the ideas of, hey, communities can take care of themselves.
You know, I'm one of those crazy people that believes in a much maligned philosophy known as anarchism that, despite what the mainstream, or what I call the dead stream, tries to tell people, It is free people coming together and taking care of themselves.
It's building a garden.
It's helping the homeless.
It's people coming together without a central authority and without the need for that.
So we're trying to take that message.
We're going to hit 52 cities June, July, August, and then East Coast in October.
And we're really excited because it's going to be meditation.
It's going to be gardening.
I'm going to be giving talks and presenting the ideas that are outlined in my new book and through my book series.
And I believe we're providing some real tangible solutions.
There's a lot of people, and I think you yourself, we start to realize, all right, there's no change coming from within the system.
We can either just stick our head in the ground or we can just go find our happy spot out in the woods and ignore everybody else.
But ultimately, I want to provide solutions that are going to help for people.
I can't just...
I can't just go to Mexico as much as I'd like to and, you know, live tropical island and have fun or in Ecuador or wherever and be like, okay, I've found my happiness when I know that everybody I care about is here dealing with these things.
And so I want to do my best to provide those solutions.
And I think the best way to communicate that for the ideas that I'm working on is face to face.
So I'm like, let's come to your city.
Let's talk in person.
All right.
Website where people can find out about where, you know, your schedule, your tour schedule.
All the information is at theconsciousresistance.com slash tour.
It's got the full list of the tour dates.
As I said, we're starting June 1st through the 15th is our Gulf Coast tour.
So we're doing 11 cities in Texas plus New Orleans.
And then in July, we're going West Coast, Midwest.
And then going to the East Coast.
And really, there's more cities out there who wanted us to come than we have time for.
We're making this work as much as possible, but there still are some time constraints, unfortunately.
So I do plan to do this again next year and visit more cities.
So if people see the tour and they're like, oh, it's not coming to my city, We would very much appreciate if people, you know, if they're willing to make a drive or a short drive to come see us where we're closest to.
We're hitting all the major cities for sure and even some places that have very small populations but that people specifically reached out and said, our community needs this message.
Will you please come?
And so I'm happy to oblige.
Let's talk about decentralizing your life because that really resonates with a lot of my message as well and I think our audience People don't even realize how much they are surrendering their authority to centralized institutions.
It's not just the central bank and the money supply.
It's also every time you use Google.
That's a centralized information censorship and a totalitarian disinfo source.
That's Google.
Facebook.
You are centralizing all your social intelligence and handing it over to the Freaking NSA, through Facebook, right?
People are centralizing their food supply, relying on chemical pesticide-based agriculture through powerful corporate entities that poison the food supply.
So everything that you are teaching, it seems like, is about Peer-to-peer, like peer-to-peer gardening, right?
That makes sense.
Decentralize local redundancy in every system of society, and that is powerful.
And that's what I fully support.
It's one reason I wanted to talk with you, but can you talk about the reaction among people?
When you teach gardening, when you teach alternative currencies, when you teach people about even alternative health, that you don't have to go through a centralized, government-run healthcare system, what's the reaction from people?
I think it's mixed.
You know, of course, there's going to be those people who, and this is probably the majority right now, unfortunately, who've been indoctrinated through the state education system.
That's another huge area.
We're talking about decentralizing, you know, homeschooling, unschooling, world-schooling.
In general, just taking more of a direct role in your child's life and their education rather than relying on the state to do that.
The average person sends their child to the state's education system.
People tend to think ideas or some people believe that ideas like decentralization is going to lead to chaos and we need some big leader up there on top.
We need some central bureaucracy or some central leader to guide policy because I guess they believe humans are not capable of coming up with things as complicated as roads.
It's a slave mentality.
Exactly.
They're just used to being slaves, so they can't think outside the slave box.
And I think that's really where what I'm trying to do is help.
The key core of this, along with decentralization, is empowerment.
I recognize that I can promote decentralization, I can promote anarchism, agorism, or any of these solutions I believe in, right?
And they will have an effect.
I think they're valuable and they can show their value and they already are showing their value with technology is leading to the decentralized peer-to-peer revolution.
If we don't combine that with this message of empowerment, of individual empowerment, of individual self-healing so that we can...
I mean, my goal is to be the best me I can be, whether that means physically, mentally, spiritually, you know, being healthy, being informed, staying in shape, all those kind of things.
And if we're able to promote that type of culture and create a new culture that isn't about look to mommy and daddy for help or, you know, look to the government or, you know, looking at the celebrity culture and all these kind of things, which is really about disempowerment.
It's what it comes down to.
So they're trying to get people to be in a...
A state of disharmony.
You imagine the frequency of us, each of us as individual beings.
They want us to be afraid, they want us to be anxious, to think that we need their systems, and all this reliance on that.
It's very difficult to break that mold for some people, but that's also why I focus on action and emphasize action and consistency, because I have books, right, but the books are only as good as what they actually can do in the real world.
You know, we talk about this in the book that theories and political philosophies are, you can look at them one of two ways, either theoretically of what they say on paper or what they actually do in the real world, right?
So some people say communism is this great thing or socialism is a great thing or even fascism now it seems like some people think it's a great thing on paper, right?
But then in reality we can see a much different outcome.
So my goal is to see that if we're going to create these situations, we have to lay the foundation which will make the population conducive to that change.
So if everybody's not believing in themselves, if they're hurt, they're stuck in this insecure, fear-based system that they're trying to give us, this whatever you want to call it, new world order, deep state, shadow government, the thing that they're trying to feed everybody, if people are in that state of disharmony, it's very hard for them to believe that we can take care of ourselves.
When you start talking about decentralization like there's no way we could do that I've never seen that in people we need other people to take care of us you know so the goal is promote that message while also hopefully providing a message of empowerment and reminding people that they're not alone that they are valuable that they have power and that it's just about each of us individually taking that power back and then looking around be like wow I'm surrounded by other beautiful powerful people that can do this too and encouraging that the root of that is is consciousness And this is one
thing that I also really resonated with with your message, your website, The Conscious Resistance, your books, The Conscious Resistance, Finding Freedom in an Age of Confusion, Manifesto of the Free Humans.
And by the way, where can people find these books?
Those are all available on the website as well, theconsciousresistance.com slash books.
And I do want to mention that you can download them all for free.
And if you want to buy them, that's even better.
But we just want the words out there.
So consciousness is this crucial concept, and I've even talked about how I think the next revolution for human civilization must be rooted in the embracing of consciousness.
And yet, we live in a society where the scientific status quo, which of course you and I know is not rooted in real science often, But the entire scientific establishment says that consciousness doesn't exist.
They say it is an illusion, an emergent property from the biochemistry of a physical brain.
Now, how can they say that unless they had the consciousness to come up with the thought, right?
But that's what they say.
The FDA says that there's no such thing as mind-body medicine, that the mind is disconnected from the body.
Now, what a disempowering message that is from the centralized medical authorities and health authorities and so on.
But what I want to ask you is, how do you define consciousness and how do you see consciousness as being the key catalyst for the real revolution in human society?
Because I think, I mean, our audience is really interested in your thoughts on that.
Yeah, I think that's a great question.
It's one that we try to address in the first book, which, for one, the first thing we do is let's establish definitions, right?
So you look in the dictionary definition and it says conscious or consciousness.
It says the state of being aware, of being awake, you know, being alive, basically, that we can sit here and be like, okay, I'm thinking and therefore I am, right?
That type of thinking.
But as you said, in the mainstream, the dead stream, they often promote this materialist, reductionist worldview where just machines, there's, you know, it's just chemical reactions and yada, yada, yada.
So there's no, like you said, they take the spirit out of it, you know, and when you promote that mentality, when you get people to think, okay, they're just machines that are just here for a certain period of time, and then they perform a task, you know, it seems to coincide with this belief that Go to school, work a job, get married, be a slave, pay taxes.
Because you're just a machine.
You're just pumping out.
Your job is to produce or to consume.
You're not here in that worldview to enrich and enliven yourself.
Right, and innovation in their worldview only comes from government funding.
Absolutely, absolutely.
It can't come from human ingenuity of just realizing the greatness of what we are and reaching new heights, which is really what all of history is a result of.
Elon Musk worshipped as an innovator.
It's all government grant money.
He's not a Thomas Edison.
Yeah, absolutely.
Right?
You know?
And I think that's important for people to recognize, too, that there's so many people out there who are reaching, I mean, the highest heights of themselves as an individual.
They might not be YouTube famous, they might not be, you know, internet famous or nationally, internationally renowned, but they are, in their own individual ways, living to their fullest capacity.
They're, you know, living their highest self, if you want to put it that way.
So for me, consciousness and the importance of consciousness If you don't recognize that you're awake, if you don't recognize that you're aware, that you're alive, that you're a human being, then you kind of go into this zombie-like, what some people refer to, like a sheeple-like phase.
And I don't even mean to say that in any attacking way.
I think this is a reality that some people recognize.
You run into an old friend, for example, and you're really excited about all the things you've been doing, and you're like, Telling them about it.
What have you been up to?
Same old thing, just going to work, going to school.
There's no excitement, there's no life there.
It's just going through the motions.
And I would say that that's almost a state of unconsciousness.
Sure, they're aware they have to pay a bill, they're aware they have to do this, they've got to follow this law and do this, but is their spirit truly shining?
To grow in that capacity.
I would say not.
It's extremely important for each of us as individuals to be able to reach our highest high.
I think that does start with the journey within.
For me, I got into this.
I got into meditation.
I'm 32 years old now.
In 2005, I went to prison briefly.
I was addicted to crystal meth.
I had a very bad drug problem.
And it was due to years of depression, suicide attempts.
And it's because that's why that's so intrinsic to my message.
Because I recognized back then, I thought I hated the world.
I mean, I thrived off just saying, like, oh, you know, screw the world.
I was just really, you know, nihilistic or whatever.
But it was because I didn't care about myself.
I didn't feel good about myself.
And I had all these issues I needed to process.
And I think there's a lot of people out there who have these doubts, insecurities, fears, etc., And when you're stuck in your own emotional muck and just trying to deal with that, it's very difficult to even care what's going on in the world.
And somebody's like, hey, these people are out there robbing you.
They're pulling false flags or whatever.
And you're just like, yeah, I can't even deal with my own problems.
So we can see the correlation and the need to help uplift people.
For me, the conscious evolution, the conscious resistance, that term, it came to me in 2013.
And it was just the realization that I am a physical being who's out there as an activist and doing journalism and reporting and such, but I'm also a person that is exploring my conscious state of mind through meditation and through prayer and through friendship and through just connecting with nature and life itself, and that I couldn't separate those anymore.
And I really think if you're only dealing with the physical manifestations of power, you're really missing out on a big part of the fight because the internal tyrant is probably the most dangerous that we each face.
Well, yeah, as a great example of that right now, the term resistance is often used now by the political left to say they're resisting Trump or they're resisting the election or they're resisting whatever.
And I know that you're not in a tribe of left versus right, and I'm not either.
But this term resistance is used by people often who are, in essence, pushing their own totalitarian society demands.
They want to deny free speech to people with whom they disagree, for example.
That's not freedom.
That's just their form of totalitarianism, but they call it resistance.
So just for you to be able to clarify this so that no one misunderstands your use of the term, what do you mean by resistance and what specifically are you resisting against?
I know that's not the core of your message.
Yeah, I got you now.
But...
Just cover that a little bit.
I can't remember exactly what we say on the website, because it's something I wrote, but it's something along the lines of that consciously, and it's in the book too, consciously resisting is basically just, it's the moment when you recognize that the fight isn't just physical, that it's deeper than that, that there's a spiritual battle going on.
There's a battle for our very consciousness, our spirit, if you will, that's taking place, and from that awareness, moving to a place of action.
So it's not in the sense of...
I wouldn't even say resisting government.
I propagate a message of awareness through journalism.
My journalism, I'm not going to lie, I'm an objective sometimes journalist.
Sometimes I'm subjective.
I put my views in there.
There's nothing wrong with that.
You're a human.
Yeah, I'm a human being with the thoughts and opinions.
But I will openly say that the reason I'm a journalist is because I'm hoping that my articles that point out the crimes of state and corporate power lead people to questioning that and letting go and coming to, I think, some of the realizations you have recently that There's no hope within that system.
And it doesn't mean that things are hopeless.
It just means let's find a better way.
Let's create something.
So my resistance isn't in the sense of like, you know, I personally, I'm not a Trump supporter, but I think it's hypocritical for people to say they're resisting Trump and be silent about what Obama did or Bush did or, you know, all these going backs.
So for me, I just think that the resistance part comes in really when you decide to take care of yourself.
I mean, you're resisting by not fighting them.
So it's kind of this, because I heard people say, and sometimes in the spiritual crowd, they're like, oh, well, what you resist persists.
And it goes into this mentality of, let's just meditate and block it out and not talk about the negative things.
I've never been into that crowd.
That's why I had to write this book, because I was hanging out with Anarchist libertarians who were atheists or had no spiritual sense.
And then there's others in the spiritual crowd I ran with who were like, don't talk to me about politics.
And I wanted to bring the message together.
So resisting in this sense, it just means empowering yourself, lifting yourself up, focusing on your community, focusing on what you can do.
So rather than trying to vote them out of office, rather than thinking that violent revolution is the answer or something like that, We build something new.
We create and compete with that system.
And that's what the new book is all focused on.
That's why I'm promoting this concept called Freedom Cells that I would love to get into if we have time and actually trying to give people tangible steps that they can take in their own lives to create more freedom and to, again, lessen their dependence on these systems that don't serve them at the end of the day.
Freedom cells.
I like that term.
I do want to ask you about that.
But a question first is, it seems like a lot of these discussions that we are having, we the people, those who are forward-thinking, who are conscious, self-aware, and solutions-oriented, We are playing around with ideas of what might replace the downfall of this current society that really most of us who are informed agree is unsustainable.
So, I mean, that's a pretty big question, right?
When are we going to reach this point where change can happen?
I feel like it's already happening.
This is the beautiful thing in that If we're looking for that moment, you know, some people expect, okay, when the state says, today's martial law, then we're going to get out.
Or if they tell us we can't get out of the country, then we'll, you know, everybody's waiting for this big moment to happen or the crises, which I do think are inevitable economic collapse, because as you said, it's an unsustainable fractional reserve system.
Hyperinflation is inevitable.
We can look other places and see the history of that.
But I feel like the problem that comes in, or at least in my view, is if you live a life that's reliant or waiting for that moment.
Because then you're just sort of, well, we've got all our bug-out bags, and I prepare for emergencies as well, so I'm not hating on anybody who does that.
But if that's all you're doing, you've got all your food stored up, you've got your prepper items and stuff, and you're like, okay, now we can just sit back and just watch everything burn, and we'll wait until that moment that we've got to go run away to our cabin, and we'll live, everything will be happy.
I don't think it's going to be that easy.
I think that if we do nothing now, and we just either keep voting or just say, like, screw it, I'll just watch it burn and wait until that crises moment, Whether it's, you know, another huge false flag or economic collapse or just whatever sort of engineered event they come up with, we're going to be dealing with a situation.
I like to tell people, like, you can either wait until that moment, and then these are going to be your options.
You can go loot and riot with all those people that are running around downtown, robbing the stores, and see what you can get for your family.
Or, you know, you can go down the street where FEMA says they've got plenty of food for you and your family.
Just come hang out at their camps and they'll take care of you.
Right.
And turning your guns at the door.
Yeah, exactly.
Come bring your gun.
We got food.
We got beds.
Everything's going to be good.
Or you can be the people who thought ahead and who prepared.
And not just preparing, again, in the sense of waiting for doomsday, but building community now, building gardens.
And this is what my message is really about, is that individual empowerment, the individual self-healing, the spiritual healing, as well as laying the groundwork, not so that we can become the new government or this new state, but so we can create I believe local autonomous communities that are able to interact, trade, do business, etc., but without this central overarching authority that's going to tell people in New York how to live the same as people in Houston or in Austin.
That we can develop a sense of localization that empowers people.
Again, it's decentralized.
The concept I mentioned earlier, Freedom Cells, is really intrinsic to this idea.
This is a big bulk of what the book talks about.
The term Freedom Cells, I got it from Austin activist John Bush.
He kind of passed it along to me and I've just been expanding upon the ideas.
What it literally means is just getting together with a group of ideally eight people, about eight to ten, seven to ten, in that range, who can come together for mutual interest, for sharing of skills, for sharing of knowledge, for prepping together, Maybe you want to defend your community against a violent agent of the state, whether that's a CPS agent who wants to come take your kid because you don't vaccinate or because you smoke a plant or because they don't like your religion or whatever.
The idea then is that we have this core group of people That come together, can share knowledge, can share skills.
There's no one leader that is running the group.
It's everybody coming together on a level playing ground.
For example, in Houston, we've been working on this idea for almost two years now.
We'll have meetings where we come together.
Every member of the group is working on getting three months' worth of backup supply of food.
Everybody's making sure that we have an encrypted form of communication or some alternative form of communication that we feel is safer.
Everybody has a firearm and knows how to use it or some form of self-defense that they're comfortable with.
So you're getting everybody on the same skill level, for example.
Maybe you want to make sure that everybody in your group knows how to do CPR, knows how to build a fire.
Whatever basic skills you want to teach, the idea being that if one person leaves, gets hurt, dies, et cetera, you're not like, oh, there goes our one guy who can build a fire.
Everybody's got the skills and the knowledge and then you can come together, say you share knowledge as well.
So we've done it where we want to learn everything we can about permaculture.
You guys take permaculture on land, you take water, you take air, and we'll come back in a week or two, we'll teach each other everything we know.
Or I want to finally dive into this Bitcoin thing, let's teach each other about that.
So you're sharing knowledge, you're sharing skills, and I think also in the long term we can get to the point where We are able to defend our communities, as I said, against outside forces.
And this would be, again, with a decentralized message, there are already peer-to-peer apps out there that, even though they might not be intended for the purpose that I'm promoting them as, they work great.
So we built the Freedom Cell Network website, freedomcells.org.
I highly recommend everybody joining that.
It's been growing over the last year.
It's not another social network for you to join, so it's not a place for you just to go, Post your food or cats or really even political stuff if you want.
The goal of that website, when you join, you can create your skills and say, what are your skills?
Hey, I'm a good painter.
I have computer skills, whatever.
These are what I'm looking for.
And then you can search within 10 miles of you, 20 miles, 50 to 100, and find other people in the area with similar goals.
And then from there, the goal is to connect in the real world.
So you make the digital connection, then meet in the real world, start having this.
We got our core group of eight people, right?
And then we tell everyone, because in Houston, we started out kind of spread around the big city, right?
So it's convenient to meet every couple weeks, but if I need, like, if I'm going to have an emergency and I call my Freedom Cell, but they're 30, 45 minutes away on the other side of town, it's a little problematic.
So the goal is to have people in as close proximity as possible in the long run.
It makes sense.
We've got our core group of people.
We encourage everybody, turn around, start another group.
So you start one in your neighborhood, your community.
Then you've got eight groups.
Eight groups of eight to ten people each, so you're looking at 80 to 100 people spread across one area.
Now imagine as this starts to spread everywhere, we become this network that, again, isn't going to become the next state.
We're not trying to become the authoritarians.
Like you said, some people talk about freedom or resistance, but they really just want power.
We're talking about a decentralized method that could give us local power and lessen dependence on the state that we've been talking about with decentralization.
This is the redundancy survival network, but not just survival, but regrowing your community after a collapse of some kind.
Absolutely.
Or whatever.
And I want us to be as proactive as possible, which is why I'm emphasizing not just doing the prepping and kind of sitting by and waiting for that moment to happen.
Because as we were talking earlier before the interview, it's kind of hard to imagine that, okay, say you got the economic collapse or whatever kind of scenario you want to think about.
But you haven't laid any groundwork to connect to your neighbors.
You don't know any of them.
They don't trust you.
You don't trust them.
So you're all going to be fending for yourselves and maybe even fighting each other for resources.
But if you've got this network put together and you know you can call in using, like, there's the cell 411 app.
You can send out emergency alerts.
You can create little cells, right?
We have the Houston Freethinkers public cell on there.
Anybody can join, right?
And if somebody's in trouble or emergency, whether that's flat tire, being pulled over by a cop, robbery, or just, hey, we have a meeting going on, you send out that alert and it goes to everybody in your cell.
They can come there and be a support system, you know?
And by being proactive, we can be the ones that...
That have seeds stored up, that have food stored up, that have stuff and can go to our neighbors and say, hey, don't go to FEMA, don't go loot and write, here's some seeds, here's some tools, get your family started, like, let's help each other.
Well, this is a great concept, freedomcells.org is the website.
I just want to point out, though, under the Obama administration, with Janet Napolitano, remember?
See something, say something, Janet.
They would have considered these to be terror cells.
And the funny thing is that's kind of where the name comes from, because they talk of terror cells.
Anybody who knows much about warfare, having cells, like hidden groups of people, is kind of a common tactic.
And it doesn't necessarily always have to be for nefarious purposes.
People coming together with common goals, having cells...
So we wanted to retake that language and said, instead of being about this terrorism, we are cells of people coming together, spreading freedom, spreading light, awareness, consciousness, but also in the sense that thinking of the cells within our body, that each cell is performing an individual task and it's unique and powerful on its own, but it's also a part of this larger collective that is our body, that is doing this, you know, monumentous thing.
That's right.
So we think about each cell like that, that each one can be unique, can be powerful on its own.
But then as it starts to grow, imagine being able to travel around this country or around the world and using websites and apps or even just word of mouth with people and knowing, oh yeah, this is where that one community is at.
They told us where all the farmer's markets are at and where we can meet other like-minded people and we can trade outside of the Federal Reserve note.
And we end up having...
This network that can really parallel them.
And as we see, the state is unsustainable economically, all the other ways, the health production, the environment, that unsustainable system, it will collapse.
And part of it is going to happen regardless of whatever we do.
I think other parts of it, we're going to need to propagate this message, like what we're doing here right now, spreading awareness.
That's what helps people realize, I don't need that.
And then that's one less person that's dependent on that system.
That's one more person looking for local answers.
The system, though, I know you're aware of this, just sort of reminding those watching, the system, the government, will do everything to try to defend itself.
Absolutely.
Even, you know, use coercion.
Like, I remember back during the Obama administration when the government budget deficit, or the current budget was being debated, And they had a temporary shutdown of the government.
I think the GOP shut it down.
One of the very first things that Obama did was order the release of violent felon criminals from government-run prison systems.
I'm not talking about the non-violent people who got caught smoking marijuana or whatever.
The violent offenders, they just started releasing them onto the streets.
Basically, Obama was saying that if you don't fund us, the government, we will terrorize your communities with criminals.
That was a very clear message to me.
It was like, wow.
We both know and I think the audience is fairly aware that people in power are going to do what's necessary for them to stay in power.
We can see that.
They're not just going to, oh, well, look, they're starting to recognize that they have their own power.
Let's just let them have it and get out of the way.
I've had people say, you can find videos of me talking about freedom cells, and there's always someone that's got to comment, oh, that's all well and good until they come wake-o you or something like that.
Right.
What I like to say to that is, first, I think it's not giving us enough credit to assume that we're just thinking things are going to be perfect and that we're not preparing in the sense of self-defense.
That doesn't mean we're stockpiling weapons or anything like that, but just being aware that all communities should be able to take care of themselves, whether that means from violent criminals, just your average criminal on the street, or a criminal in an IRS uniform, or a criminal at a presidential...
An ATF criminal at Waco.
Yeah, whatever they may be.
It's important to have preparations for that.
And the other thing I think is using The technology that we have available, while we do have it available, because we also know that they would love to control or limit the Internet.
Right now, I think it's, as you mentioned earlier, it's a data mining tool for them.
So it serves their purposes to leave it open so they can gather data.
But there's a lot of censorship now on Google, YouTube.
You've seen that yourself.
So, I mean, definitely people are recognizing that the Internet can be censored.
While we have those tools now, though, we're trying to use them in a way to bring people together.
And to, I think, the other important part of the whole Freedom Cells idea is using the technology.
Everybody's, you know, Facebook living, live streaming, stuff like that.
Right.
Sorry to interrupt, but if Waco had happened in a time like now, when everybody's got a video phone, everybody's got access, they couldn't have covered it up the way they did.
And the thing is that, you know, the evil, or however you want to put it, they thrive in the darkness, right?
Well, we're about love and light and peace and freedom, and we thrive in the light, so we should be transparent where they're not, right?
So what I envision is Communities coming together using this freedom cells concept.
Some people like us, we're planning on launching an intentional community here in Texas in 2020 that's based around all these principles, this mindfulness, permaculture, and the sovereignty of the individual to own themselves.
All those concepts Put in line with the freedom cells and agorism working outside the states.
We're going to launch an intentional communion in 2020.
My goal is that we can lay the groundwork and have a piece of land to defend, have somewhere to use as a place for music festivals that promote actual consciousness-raising music, that place that have, you know, markets where people aren't using the Federal Reserve note or health, you know, health events, all kinds of things that we can use this space as to cultivate this mentality.
It's not going to happen by just standing around and complaining on Facebook.
It's not going to happen through voting.
And it's not going to happen in a violent revolution, even if we thought that was the way to go.
So to me then, what we're left with is to create, to build, and then to overgrow them by competing with them directly.
Like the old broken system obsolete.
Absolutely.
You don't have to destroy it.
You just have to have something better.
Absolutely.
And on the Waco point, we do that by being transparent.
I'm encouraging all of the people who are getting involved with Freedom Cells.
If this is a concept, if this is an idea that is helping you grow, like, oh, wow, I found a new set of friends.
I just learned some new skills.
Let your friends know that.
Let your social media people know that, hey, I'm trying this new thing out.
And so when we're all out there in the community, And people see us doing this good work and they see us as a force of good and not these extremists that the government's trying to paint freedom-minded people as.
It's going to be very difficult for them to then send in their armies when everybody's like, wait, those are the people I buy my eggplants from.
Those are the people in my community.
They're not violent.
And then we would see, I think hopefully people would recognize, wow, the state is the aggressor.
They are the ones that are causing the problem.
I've always had this concept of having...
Maybe buying 10,000 acres somewhere in Texas and getting it declared a health freedom zone.
Yeah.
Where the government, not the state, not the federal government, can outlaw any medical intervention because everybody who enters the zone, maybe it's an Indian tribe layer on top of it or something, like it's a sovereign...
You have to form like a health church.
Yeah, like a health church, right.
Right, where we can practice integrative, alternative, complementary medicine without being shot by coercive government.
Absolutely, yeah.
But I don't know that the framework exists for that.
Micronations, perhaps, or an offshore floating platform island of health freedom.
Some people think that sea-steading is the way to go.
I think that what we're going to see, though, is if we build this, whether it's on sea, it's on land, through freedom cells, and I do want to emphasize this, that I don't care what you call it.
When I started talking about this, I was emailed by people in Brazil, Argentina, New Zealand, all over the world, all over the US, who said, we're already working on this.
We call it this name, or hey, this is beautiful.
I don't care.
If we just take the concept and use it, these mutual aid groups, freedom cells, whatever you want to call them, Build community again.
That's what we've lost.
We've lost the sense of who we are as people, of who we are as conscious beings, as powerful, beautiful beings, and we've lost the sense of community because for so long we've been taught, you go to the grocery store for your food, you use chemicals on everything, you trust the government, you trust the media, and now we're unlearning all that and realizing We have to take care of ourselves.
So the more we spread that, I think we're going to see opportunities for this to grow.
And I do have faith that it's going to happen.
I don't know that it will be perfectly smooth travels.
I think there will be bumpy moments on the future that's coming our way.
But I know for me personally, it's worth thinking about what I can do now for my future potential children or my nieces and nephews.
And also in line with indigenous native families.
That line of thinking that comes from our communities, when you think about the seventh generation principle, you're thinking not just of what the actions you take today affect, but the future seven generations and even beyond that.
And when you start to look at that and realize, and look at the world with that lens on, you're like, well, is this institution known as government really going to help my future children?
Am I leaving them something good?
And if you can't honestly say that you are leaving them something good, then I think it's probably time to take action.
Well said.
And by the way, Derek, it's been a pleasure interviewing you, and I think you have a very powerful philosophy.
I look forward to seeing you continue to develop it, share it with others, build these skill sets, build redundant, self-reliant communities all over the country.
I want to thank you for joining me today.
Thank you for having me, Mike.
And for those of you watching, check out theconsciousresistance.com for the tour times and dates where Derek will be in your local communities.
Not all of them, but you might have to drive a little ways to get to him.
But you should meet this young, innovative individual here and learn what he's got to offer.
And there are many more like him who are using the Internet, using technology, and using just human ingenuity to help create systems that might serve as the real answers for when our current systems that are unsustainable begin to crater and implode.
And that day is not far off.
So thank you for joining us today.
This is Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, for naturalnews.com with Derek Brose in studio here in Central Texas.
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