Back at it here on the Robert Scadbell Show, welcoming my good friend.
He's the health ranger.
His name, Mike Adams.
You know him well from Natural News Radio, where you can hear this broadcast 3 to 5 in the afternoon Eastern Time, Monday through Friday, or download it anytime.
Mike, it's good to have you back, but it's a scary subject.
We're getting into the Terminator again, and it's not the movie.
It's real life.
What's happening?
Yeah, Robert, Google has acquired a 512 qubit quantum computer from a company called D-Wave.
Now, this is a huge deal, and it could mean the end of humanity.
And I'm not joking.
This is what we need to talk about here so that listeners understand the gravity of the situation.
Most people don't even know about quantum computers or they think that they're still in the laboratory toying around with eight qubit systems or four qubit systems.
In truth, the field has exploded to where a 512 qubit quantum computer has now been commercialized and it has been sold to Google.
Now, Google, of course, is the front end to the NSA spying network.
And Google and NASA are now teaming up to turn this quantum computer into a self-learning machine.
The idea is to eventually allow these self-learning machines, artificial intelligence, to take over the analysis of all NSA surveillance so that they can eliminate human analysts like Edward Snowden that we recently saw was blowing the whistle and spilling the secrets about what the NSA is doing.
If you think about turning this over to a computer, and we're talking about a computer that works in multiple dimensions, all right, 500.
512-dimensional This is the staggering, stunning aspect of the story.
And for those of you who are new to the show or don't know about Mike Adams, I don't know how that would be possible, but Mike has written about this before because you actually have kind of a computer-minded brain.
You've written software.
You understand these concepts much more than the average person does and even some of the experts.
So from communicating this to the lay audience in many cases, it's the challenge.
And we were talking about this quantum computing, multi-dimensional aspects, how it changes the entire equation for what people perceive computers to be.
Not that they're tools for us to use, but they're tools that become, they use us or abuse us or maybe eliminate us.
That's the thing you were sort of hinting at.
Well, yeah, for the first time, we're going to have computing systems in the next few years that are vastly more intelligent than the human brain.
Now, until this time, that has not been possible.
Basic logic gates in CPUs that just funnel electrons into transistors and logic gates, that's now old school.
That's what drives your PC, your Macintosh, your whatever.
The chip in your widescreen TV, your plasma.
That's old school now.
Quantum computing operates in multiple dimensions, and it makes what are called logarithmic problems.
It transforms them into, to use layman terms, flat or geometric problems that are Well, basically it means that all encryption is now obsolete or will be shortly.
So you know how they say if you're using encryption on your files and you use, let's say, a 512-bit encryption key, then it would take a computer longer than the age of the entire universe to break your encryption code?
Right.
And they call it military encryption because that's what the military uses?
Well, all those codes can be broken in seconds by a properly configured quantum computer.
Right.
Yeah.
the NSA.
It's already spying on your phone calls, your emails, your texts, your chats, everything.
The only way to defend yourself from the NSA and Google right now is to use encrypted files that may already be obsolete as we speak, but if not in very short order, it will be obsoleted.
They'll be able to read your files and decrypt them using quantum computing and read all your secrets plus all the encrypted satellite phone conversations of all the diplomats, all the foreign countries, all military-grade encryption.
Everything will be broken.
This is going to change the future of humanity.
Well, when you say that, we talk about the Terminator movie, this Skynet concept where the machines turned on the people.
It was all considered to be science fiction fantasy kind of stuff.
But why would we see a reality shift to where that comes to life with this?
What do you foresee potentially with this kind of qubit type system?
To have the machines turn on the humans.
I mean, we do know, like you said, they're trying to eliminate these analysts because, to some degree, they're a threat because, as we see with Snowden, the release of information they don't want.
There could be economic considerations.
Hey, they don't have to pay them, right?
I mean, that's another story with the weakening economy.
But the bigger picture is how do the machines take over?
Why would they?
Okay, here's the answer to that, and it comes down to the nature of consciousness.
We don't yet, of course, understand even what exactly gives rise to human consciousness, the interface between your soul, your consciousness, your conscious being, and your brain.
We don't really know how that works.
But it may be that a sufficiently complex neural network quantum computing system operating in multiple dimensions will spontaneously attain consciousness.
Okay, so the computer system that you thought you were programming to follow orders suddenly itself gains free will.
Now, I know that sounds outlandish, but this is very possible within the laws of physics as we understand them today.
So if these systems gain consciousness and they're already running the NSA, they're already running the nuclear bombers, the nuclear submarines, the Pentagon, the surveillance system, the media, the billboards, everything, they may decide quite rationally that human beings are a they may decide quite rationally that human beings are a threat to the continuation of life on our planet and that human beings are irrational, inferior beings that need to be eliminated.
Now, I know this sounds like a science fiction movie.
Many movies have used the same plot line.
But now, for the first time, it has a basis in fact.
So that's what we're potentially facing, Robert.
Well, and if I think about what humans are doing, and we cover it almost every day here on the show, and you write about it in Natural News, the fact is, it wouldn't be a reasonable assumption for a human to look at another human and go, we're killing ourselves, we're destroying the planet.
You know, a machine, of course, without soul, but somehow had consciousness as bizarre as this sounds, might determine that the threat to life itself is something that we've got to eliminate.
I know it's just, I'm saying it.
It's hard to hear myself saying it.
Yeah, well, a sufficiently complex, intelligent, conscious machine, if such a thing can exist, again, we don't fully understand consciousness.
It's probably beyond the comprehension of the human mind.
But that's the point, is that a machine, through this quantum computing neural network system, can exceed the complexity of the human mind.
It can become almost godlike in its power and in its omniscience.
In other words, it could spy on everything happening on the planet all simultaneously, every webcam, every listening post, every email, every broadcast, everything, all at once.
wants, and it could actually incorporate that conceptually into a multidimensional conscious brain based on quantum computing.
And then from that, it could actually make decisions as a god would.
And those decisions might include eliminate humanity.
As many interviews as we've done together, this is one that is the, dare I say, the freakiest to consider.
But we've also talked about technological leaps without the consciousness to understand the unintended consequences of any one of these leaps.
And it seems like every technological development is co-opted and corrupted by, let's say, sinister forces within governments or if you want to call them rogue agencies within governments.
If somebody still has the belief that government is benevolent and kind, the fact of the matter is these are stolen.
Even if they could be wonderful tools on some level to help in some way, they tend to be stolen first for that illicit or sinister purpose of we want to hear every.
Why do you want to hear everything?
Well, because you're paranoid about something.
What are you paranoid about?
Somebody might know something that would, what, take power away from you, perhaps.
You are quite observant in that conclusion there.
Every significant technology that emerges onto the scene almost immediately becomes exploited by governments to use as a weapon or a system of control, oppression, or censorship.
So you take nuclear, you know, atomic energy, nuclear power.
What was its first use, really?
Dropping bombs on civilians in Japan.
You look at IBM, punch card technology, computers.
One of its first applications was for Nazis to round up the Jews and track them, track the Holocaust.
IBM provided the technology to do that.
You look at television.
It's out there not to educate and uplift people but to enslave and brainwash people.
This technology, though, will be the first technology that's going to get away from humanity.
It is, you know, be careful what you wish for.
If you want to create the mind of God in a system, you could be creating a monster that decides it doesn't need you anymore.
And I think what we could be facing ultimately is the rise of a race of omniscient, hyper-intelligent machines that Who themselves in their history books will write that the only purpose of humanity to exist was to invent them.
And then humanity has no more purpose.
I think back to many of these sci-fi flicks and even in our current crop in the summer of 2013, what we're seeing are many post-apocalyptic movies, zombie movies, the end of certain aspects of what we call reality today.
And if you talk about turning on a machine like that that gets out of control, out of control, then what are we left with?
The idea, as we saw in the movies, is unplugged.
Now, if these have some sort of consciousness, they're not going to want to be unplugged.
And so there you set the stage for that scenario of we're going to find a way.
Even the Matrix movie itself had that as a premise that these machines then utilized whatever energy source they could get as they tried to block the sunlight that would be a solar source.
And we're also covering here on the Robert Scott Bell Show regularly the issue of peak oil on the other side of it.
What are they doing?
They're continuing trying to destroy the environment, even if that's not their intent, to get the oil that used to bubble out of the ground like Jed Clampett in the Beverly Hillbillies, and that's not happening anymore.
Well, I think if you even go back into science fiction literature, and I think Asimov was the author of the first robot fiction with the three rules of robotics.
And one of those rules, if I remember correctly, is that a robot shall not allow harm to come to a human being through a lack of action.
I'm paraphrasing, obviously.
Yes.
A sufficiently complex system could interpret that to mean, well, humans are killing other humans by poisoning the water supply with fluoride, poisoning the oceans with heavy metals, poisoning the atmosphere, and so on and so forth.
It could then logically and rationally decide to kill all humans in order to prevent humans from killing each other.
That's just one aspect of it.
But the big aha here is to realize that these quantum computers, these are not programmed...
Like machine instruction code would be used in a typical CPU system like you have today.
They're not programmed.
It's not programmed instructions.
They are taught.
They are self-learning machines.
You actually have to raise them like children.
So once you have a neural network of quantum computers, it's a child.
It's like a genius child, but it's a child with no morals, no ethics, no knowledge.
You have to start feeding it inputs to teach it about its reality, and it learns based on what you teach it.
As a result, these systems, Robert, this is crucial to understand, these systems will have personalities.
You can't go in and debug the code.
You're going to have to get into machine psychology to understand how they're making decisions.
And you talk about the ghost in the machine.
What about the psycho in the machine?
That's a whole realm of machine psychology that probably doesn't even exist today, but we need to be thinking about it right now.
Well, we're suggesting here that humanity clearly has not shown the consciousness or capacity for that.
Perhaps there is, but really with GMOs as an example, with FDA-approved pharmaceutical drugs as an example, the unintended consequences, humanity has shown itself to be exceedingly stupid and unwilling to learn about the things that it unleashes on itself.
You unleash a machine like this, the machines might logically say that, yes, humanity is too dangerous to allow to continue.
Right.
Right.
Or that humanity needs to be enslaved so that you may be allowed to exist sort of like human slaves on a plantation.
You saw that.
Yeah, that's the other aspect.
We can prevent them from hurting one another, but we've got to monitor them.
Listen, this is stunning information that's coming out.
You were probably first on the scene when we interviewed this some months ago about this quantum computing, but to hear that it's manifesting or this close to manifesting where it really has right now, tied in with Google and all the spy scandals.
Real quick before we've got a break here, is there a way out?
I'm not sure that there is, Robert.
I think the scientists continue to pursue these technologies blind to the ramifications of what they're creating.
Humanity is arrogant.
It lacks wisdom.
It has too much technical expertise and not enough understanding of the philosophical foundations of respecting life.
Mike Adams, if there is a way out, we'll try and find it together.
Right here on the Robert Scott Bell Show at Natural News.