Leo Zagami on Trump takes Venezuela, Putin will take the rest of Ukraine, and China will take Taiwan
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Hello, everyone.
It's Michael Jacob with Unleashed Intuition Secrets.
Joined once again by Leo Zagami, best-selling author, multiple books on the Confessions of Illuminati and also the Rise and Fall of a Frankish Monster, where he focuses on Jeffrey Epstein and the most powerful Jewish sect in the world.
And when we did that show, Leo, I think that was our best performing show ever.
You really, you know, revealed some things that people didn't have any clue about, myself included.
But now we're looking at, and I think your recent article on your website about Trump takes Venezuela, Putin will take the rest of Ukraine, and China will take Taiwan.
It's kind of like the new world order just keeps on going in a certain instance.
What were your thoughts?
Well, first of all, let me focus on the new year.
So happy new year to all our viewers, aside from you and Tracy, of course.
And we are here with a lot of news.
The year is starting very fast, filled up with some astonishing events.
Well, I wrote this article because I wanted to make some clarity here about what is really going on behind the scenes.
Putin didn't really satisfy Trump, but at the same time, Trump knows very well that he can't go and do the same thing he did with Maduro, with Vladimir Putin.
I mean, I know in the last few hours we had Zelensky saying, oh, maybe the next dictator, you know, indicating, implying that Putin could end up like Maduro.
Maduro didn't have 5,000 or 6,000 nukes to defend him.
So, I mean, it's just an illusion to even state something like that.
There is, of course, a lot of theater.
And I wanted to point out in the article that it's not only about the oil.
Of course, the oil is very important.
We have been talking about it for a long time.
And it's, of course, more important than any drug, you know, export facility from Venezuela, which at that point, you should invade the whole of Bolivia, Colombia, and so on, which is still possible.
I mean, Trump is kind of also indicating he will be interested in moving against Colombia or Cuba.
But in the case of Colombia, let's remember that we are talking about some of the most powerful narco-traffickers in the world who deal with some of the most powerful mafias in the world.
I mean, for example, Colombia has an exclusive deal with the Italian Drangeta, which is one of the most fierce mafias in south of Italy from Calabria.
They have a very good deal going on also with the Albanian mafia.
I don't think that these people will take it lightly if their business was taken away suddenly by an invasion of source or some kind of operation.
However, discussing a little bit this whole topic, the beginning of a new year, as you know, I've been talking about the Sinorasian world order for a long time now, since Volume 7.
I also talked about Taiwan as the next objective of this new world order.
We can basically claim with absolute certainty at this point that the old world order, the one that was in place since the second world, the end of the Second World War, which was called New World Order at the time, is no longer new, of course, it's dead.
There is something new which is unveiling.
Oh, interesting.
And so it was actually this was also stated in an article that was published on Russia Today.
And it's a statement that was also made by the Slovakian Prime Minister Fico.
And so it's about the end, I repeat, of the United States of America acting as sheriffs of the world, because, of course, now they are in competition with Russia, which has even more nukes than we have, and China, which is building more and more a nuclear arsenal.
Now, when I explained this in my books, I said that one of the great strategies behind the New World Order was, of course, Henry Kissinger.
He was the guy who architected since the 50s this strategy of tension based on nuclear deterrence.
So Taiwan, known also previously as Formosa Island, was and is of course historically linked with mainland China.
But at that point, after Mao Zedong finished his long march, after the communists took control of the mainland, well, that was the moment in which Kissinger said very directly to the Chinese, you don't have any nukes.
We have them.
We showed their potential in Japan.
You could be next if you invade Taiwan.
Now, we know that since then that has created a balance, a balance, of course, in which certain nations recognize Taiwan, certain others don't recognize it, to not upset China.
But the Sino-Russian world order now is in full motion.
And Trump himself needs what is in Venezuela, which is not only oil.
That is really only one of the, let's say, material interest.
And it's part also, of course, of the moral doctrine, which we will have to discuss.
But what is important, and it's really not addressed by anybody at the moment, is the rare earth elements which are present on the border between Venezuela and Colombia, in a sort of no man's land ruled by guerrilla mercenaries and people who want to take from the Amazons,
from one of the most important places for, of course, for nature and for the health of this planet.
You have always said that the Amazon forest is like the lung of this planet.
And it's there that the rare earths are creating a lot of interest and they're not really discussed in any way, shape, or form by the majority of media that prefers to focus instead on the oil.
So there is lantanum, cerium, neodium, scandium, along with major reserves of lithium, titanium.
And this is really what the major power players here, which is the United States, China, and Russia, need to develop the next kind of economy, which is based on robotics, which is based on artificial intelligence, electric vehicles.
And at the same time, let's not forget that there is a lot of these rare earth elements which are also used within the military-industrial complex because they are part of the new technology of war, which is developing very fast and which will make obsolete the old technology in a few years from now.
We will have these robocops, these military soldiers, which are also robots.
We will have, of course, technology, which is, like I said, is developing right now, but needs certain resources.
And those resources can't be found easily.
If you remember, one of the proposals, the main proposal from Zelensky, then accepting it, but then not really signing it.
But Trump was really eager to make him was about the rare earth in Ukraine.
When there was that famous confrontation in the White House that made us finally realize that maybe things were changing, that maybe finally we will have an end to this war.
The whole thing was about recovering our money.
Because one of the big disappointments here that might led, that might lead in the coming month to a fracturing of the MAGA movement, America first, is that the interest of America have to come first.
And that is not happening at the moment.
Because it's, you know, so we were supposed to recover money by getting from Ukraine that rare earth in exchange.
You know, I mean, they are indebted with us and they will repay us through those rare earth elements that we need.
Right.
It's not happening.
It's not going to happen because.
I think you're onto something because, you know, down in Venezuela, of course, they have the oil reserves, but they also have gold and silver mines that haven't really been tapped.
And they have huge resources down in the Venus.
We know that silver and gold are like that.
It's not only that.
And on the borders with Colombia, like I said, there is rare earth elements.
And there was actually China that recently went to visit.
Because I'm looking at – that's interesting because I'm looking at headlines and Colombia is massing troops along the border.
I wonder if it's in that area you're talking about.
Absolutely.
That area is actually, yes, they're amassing at the border, but that area, like I said, is no man's land.
Even the Colombian Navy that has sent one of their major representatives there to patrol the area.
They have difficulty.
It's a really, we have to understand here.
I mean, South America is still a very difficult place where there is and it's also a very vast place.
And so, like I said, most mainstream media today talks about the oil because that is what you find.
If you simply Google, you know, you're going to find, oh, there is major interest.
Of course, there is a voice of Venezuela bigger than Saudi Arabia and this and that.
But nobody talks about the rare earth, which for the economy of the future, the economy of the future is essential.
So you have Venezuela where we're in the Monroe Doctrine.
You know, Trump has also talked about Panama Canal.
I was in a Panama Canal invasion.
That was all about basically Noriega was like trying to strangle us from using a Panama Canal.
So we came in and we built this and we're going to take it back.
So that happened.
But in Ukraine, I totally understand.
Yeah.
Because the thing is this, you know, they thought they could maybe achieve a big one point.
Putin, even in Alaska, talked to Trump about the possibility of himself giving rare earth because they have rare earth in Russia to the US.
So, you know, it seemed like things were kind of balancing up.
But then us, Putin doesn't want to actually leave those areas where the rare earth is in Ukraine, which the majority is in the Donbass area and in those areas there.
So the fact is, at one point, we have here three major players.
These three major players need in their eyes to build the economy of the future.
Aside from the Monroe doctrine that, of course, Trump has mentioned in Mar-a-Lago yesterday morning, which is a very important doctrine, at least it was fundamental in the past two centuries.
I mean, Monroe was a president in the early 19th century.
Since then, things have changed.
At the time, if you see the threats against the United States were moved from Spain, from Portugal, from countries, colonial powers, which were on the other side of the ocean, including Great Britain, of course, we fought for the liberation of this country and the independence of this country against Great Britain.
So the Monroe doctrine was we don't want to have any interference not only in the United States of America, but also in the whole of Americas.
So South and Central America are part of our, you know, not a protectorate formally speaking, but almost, let's say.
And in the light of that, you also can remember Operation Condor.
You remember Operation Condor?
Operation Condor was this campaign that the CA conducted with all the various banana republics, a right-wing dictatorship of the southern corner of South America, which involved the coup de Tas and so on.
Things that today I don't believe they will be possible because today is much is more difficult to hide the information also.
You know, you have people simply with a phone in their pocket, which amplify what is happening on the ground.
Now, let me tell you some anomalies, though, which I found in the last 24 hours since the operation conducted to arrest Maduro.
We know that, of course, and everybody's talking about it in Mar-a-Lago, Trump said he will be in charge.
Rubio next to him because he's naturally involved, also.
He has Cuban origins, he always hates all the communists.
And rightly so, that's okay.
I don't have anything against that.
But there is a problem here.
They said that the vice president, of course, will carry on, will carry on.
The woman vice president that will carry on this whole operation in reality is somebody that we find there since the time of Ubo Chavez.
So she's a hardcore socialist.
She's a hardcore socialist.
Delsi Rodriguez is a hardcore socialist, but also we have an information that has surfaced in the mainstream media.
The CAA had a key element of Maduro's inner circle to make this possible.
So who was this CAA asset?
And is the CAA asset safe?
Is the CAA asset somebody that could be bought maybe by a better offer coming from China or Russia once things get too heated?
What kind of you know, when we think of assets, we have to think of people who can turn around very quickly.
You know, the score.
I mean, it's about double, triple agents, absolutely.
Yeah, you know.
So people at the moment are focusing on that situation on the fact that, of course, she went on TV bombastically claiming we want back Nicolas Maduro.
He's our president.
Give us back our president.
Then we have China that has intervened.
Then we have Russia that has intervened.
Then we have Iran that has intervened.
Of course, all the allies of the BRICS, including Lula in Brazil, everybody is against what Trump has done.
Now, I agree that Maduro was a criminal of sorts and he was basically a dictator who probably lost already an election and was there illegally.
But the problem of conducting this operation is already visible in the mainstream news.
Even you don't need to know when China says we're going to use this as a template to take over Taiwan in the last few hours.
And this actually was said after I wrote my article, which I was like, okay, so it seems pretty clear that what I wrote is correct.
Yeah, Maduro was meeting with a Chinese delegate just before he was captured.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
But like I said, in the end, it's about a gangster's kind of mentality on top of all this.
So China, of course, says, bring back Maduro.
They are all friends with Maduro.
If you actually see that video, if you see that video, you're going to see that there is a dialogue between them.
And at one point, Maduro says to the representative, oh, I remember you 20 years ago with the other Zhijin Pa, with the other Chinese presidents.
So I mean, these are people from, you know, that go back a long time because the communist infiltration of South America, especially of those communist dictatorships and regimes that surfaced in opposition to the United States, has always been.
See, here he says, ah, what sign are you of the horse?
I'm of the tiger.
And all this kind of BS, Chinese astrological BS.
But in the end of the video, it becomes also very clear that these are two old acquaintances.
So the Chinese have very much a link that goes directly to Xi Jinping.
And what he has said on New Year's Eve, which is also very important to state again.
I mean, on New Year's Eve, this New Year's Eve, Xi Jinping said very clearly, we are one people.
You know, we have the reunification is unstoppable.
He invoked the bond of blood and kingship.
And that's it.
I mean, it's very clear that there is going to be soon the reunification of Taiwan with China.
Yeah, they say right here, reunification of China and Taiwan, calling Bai Jing's long-held goal unstoppable, invoking the bond of blood and kinship between Chinese people and Taiwan straight.
Oh, yeah, it's on.
Some really good stuff, Leo.
So the fall of the New World Order and the beginning of the new New World Order.
I like that.
Yes, absolutely.
Because let's remember when this term was coined, it was, you know, the end of the 1940s.
It was a different world.
We were in a world that saw basically two powers, not three powers.
China is a problem now that in the end is a problem that was created by the Americans and by Kissinger and Nixon, because Kissinger and Nixon and George Bush Sr., who spent Beijing in 1974 with Barbara Bush before becoming head of the CA, he spent the whole year in Beijing.
And then he became, of course, later on president of the United States.
So here we have Kissinger, who was the guy who architected the strategy of using the nukes and the mutual deterrence strategy.
But then he is a guy who is very, I mean, Kissinger is no longer with us.
He died at the tender age of 100.
He was a Sabbathian francist.
As I explained in my book, somebody's citing the Sabbathan spread the Toziatic Brethren.
That's an interesting point.
Yes, the Ziadic Brethren, for those who are following us, and for those who have not read my book on Jeffrey Epstein, are a Masonic outlet of the 7th and Frankist, which opened up, let's say, the Masonic and Illuminati network to the Jews who were at the time not allowed to join it.
And so the Ziadik Brethren function like that.
But going back to Eric Isinger, Eric Kissinger was in a way part of that Asiatic Brethren because he was a key member of the Bohemian Club.
Now, if you read my book and you have read it on Jeffrey Epstein, you know that I focus also on the roots, historical roots of the Bohemian club, which are traceable to a lot of the Asiatic Brethren in Prague.
So the link is absolutely there.
And that's why it's very important to understand Eric Isinger was a key player of this world order.
And he was a key player who Donald J. Trump, for some reason, seemed to have loved, loved and held in high esteem.
Now, I will never have held in high esteem Herrick Isinger.
I think he was a despicable individual.
I think that the guy had so many skeletons in the closet, probably from the whole Cold War, that I mean, we know almost nothing about what Herrick Isinger really was.
I can tell you a few things because I was a member of the Monte Carlo Lodge of the P2.
And historically, this lodge built in Europe next to Italy in a very privileged environment, which is the principality of Monaco, hold the names of the most exclusive members of what was known as the P2 Lodge, which was this highly influential lodge in Italy, which ruled basically Italy at one point.
I know that for Freemasons here in America who have a vision of Freemasonry, which is mostly social, connected with, you know, some, I mean, it's very innocent compared to Freemasonry in Europe and in particular in Italy.
The Freemasonry here can be involved in certain things, but there is very few people at very high levels.
The majority of lodges that you have here in America are the lodges that dedicate themselves to, I don't know, pancakes day with the families opening up the lodge, showing their strange rituals and being involved in something that is more or less like a rotary club with an esoteric element attached.
It's a social thing.
You know, the sheriff, the doctor, the lawyer, this, the that, they come together.
And I must say, in the majority of cases, very good people, patriots, and very honest people.
So here's a question for you.
And that kind of can swing us over to the Iran narrative.
It was either Venezuela or Iran that the Cabal was going to target next.
Your thoughts, please.
I think Iran is still there because you have to understand, I mean, Pablo, I have written extensively about this topic.
I have actually touched on this topic in my books also, because at the end of the Pavlavi empire, at the end of the Shah leaving Iran in those chaotic days, I think of January, what was it, 1978?
It was the moment in which Khomeini was about to take power.
The gold was brought out of Iran.
and it was given to the Vatican.
So Iran was depraved and they took all the gold and brought it to the Vatican Bank.
And they did it thanks to the Italian mafia and the P2 Lodge and those people connected with the state behind operations and so on.
Now, Iran, yes, you're showing, of course, volume 10 of my confessions, which expands on this.
It's very important.
That's why I suggest people who are very much interested in knowing what is happening in Iran in reading this book because it tells you also the history of Freemasonry in Iran, how stunning work.
You know, I spent, gosh, almost half my life in the Middle East.
And I thought I was pretty well informed, but you blew it out of the water with this book.
And it answered a lot of questions that I had, you know, over time.
So that was excellent work.
We know that, you know, Iran with time became also very close to Russia, but as a reaction to what went on in the early days of a revolution that shaped a country that is very different from how Iran used to be.
People might not know this, but Iran was a very modern country back in the days when the Shah was there.
However, because of from the 1950s onwards, there was a first coup attempt, didn't work out.
The CA was heavily involved, the MI6 was heavily involved.
And in the end, the Iranians, there was this weird alliance in the 60s, 50s, 60s, and then, of course, manifested in the 70s, this weird alliance of Islamo-communists, a little bit like Mandan, you know, who is a Shia, in fact, Muslim mayor of New York.
We know that the whole of the West, Western world, was fueled up by intellectual revolutionaries that will bring the Red Book of Muslims.
He's Shia.
They were the worst.
i was in iraq they were the worst oh yeah because in iraq No, they are very hardcore, absolutely.
They're hard.
We spank them a lot, though.
Well, the thing is that in the end, unfortunately, they will always be close to Iran, no matter what.
You can go there and brainwash them left, right, and center, bring them 100.
Everywhere I went in the Middle East, it was Iranian influence that was causing the problems.
Everywhere.
People need to understand what Iran really is.
I mean, here it's not only about Israel and the fact that Israel hates Iran.
This is a word that goes back a thousand years.
And if we want, I can give you a little bit like volume 10.
The Shia element was the element that gave birth to the Ashashins, the ones that basically traded info and made a secret alliance with the Nice Templars who will use the Shia against the Sunni that were expanding all over the Middle East.
So for a non-Muslim, it's very difficult to realize all these nuances.
But the famous war of the Camels and everything that happened after the fourth caliph of the Rashudun, the initial caliphs after Muhammad, and then the fact that at one point there was the birth of the Shia.
The Shia are basically recognizing Ali, the cousin of Muhammad, as a figure just as important as Muhammad.
And at the same time, because Ali was married with the daughter of Muhammad, there is also this holy bloodline of the 12 Shia who are also part of one of the many schisms that came after.
Because the problem, like I said in volume 10 of my confessions, is like Islam didn't have a Roman Empire that embraced Christianity and made it the official religion and started to operate a regularization through councils of Nisia, this and that.
So a uniformity.
Instead, with Islam, I could wake up tomorrow morning and create a whole new branch simply by a new hypothesis and a new interpretation of the Quran.
And so this is a difference with Christianity.
So what do you think is going to happen?
You think the Islamists are going to be replaced or overthrown in Iran?
Now that Trump and Israel both have said they're going to back the people that are trying to overthrow them?
Okay, so it's more complex Iran than Venezuela, that's for sure.
Like Marco Rubio said, it's also different from what went on in Iraq.
You know, we see a lot of similarities, even in the mustache between Maduro and Saddam Hussein, but the two characters are different and why they're different.
They are different, they have some similarities.
Let's not forget that actually Saddam Hussein was a member of the Baha party, which was kind of secularizing and not really religiously following this or this other version of Islam.
And that was what kept together countries like Iraq first and then Syria.
Syria, Al-Assad was a member, was the Ba'ath party.
And it was the Baad Party which was kind of definitely Have this element, this socialist element.
When it comes to Iran, we saw that with, you know, I mean, of course, everybody knows Khomeini, everybody knows how he became in 1979 the supreme leader and how he took over the country, at least the facade of how he took over the country.
Because in reality, there is the interest of many foreign states that made it possible for him to go back after having brainwashed the whole of the world with his propaganda from France, because the guy was not really in Iran when things were, you know, when the revolution was taking place to establish what then became the later became the Islamic Republic of Iran.
He was nowhere to be seen.
He was in this fancy courtyard in the peripheries of Paris with the TVs.
I was a kid at the time, but I remember very clearly because we got brainwashed even in Italy.
Every evening we will have today Khomeini said this, today Khomeini said that.
And this guy was talking like, you know, he will be the next greatest king.
Right.
And they were presenting it like that.
Now, we know that Freemasonry and France, French Freemasonry is a form of Freemasonry very much involved in politics.
On the contrary, of English Freemasonry, that at least officially doesn't take care of politics and religion, from the moment in the 1870s, in which the Grand Orant of France became independent from this vision of things and they broke up, they gave always more importance to the political element,
not only and the social element, not only the esoteric within the lodges or maintaining the tradition of Freemasonry and so on.
It was about more than that.
In fact, in the Middle East, France was very influential with the lodges of Freemasonry.
They were the ones that intervened in Egypt and in other parts, and even in Iran.
Yeah, it sounds like the French and the British want to jump into the game because 12 hours ago, I'm looking at the news: British and French warplanes strike suspected ISIS weapon stockpiles in Syria.
Interesting.
Absolutely, absolutely.
I mean, let's not forget here that the whole of the Sachs pikes, the agreements that were made prior to the Barford Declaration, the Sachs-Pike Orta Agreement, whatever, and all that.
It was all about dividing the spheres of influence between France and Great Britain, because France and Great Britain, in a way, were also the two countries with the control over Freemasonry in the Middle East.
Traditionally speaking, even to this day, you have two forms of Freemasonry present in Lebanon, which is the only country that officially tolerates Freemasonry in the Middle East, aside from, I guess, there is Jordan, there is Morocco, but they're a little bit more secretive.
Then, in the rest of the Middle East, in the last few decades, the Freemasonry has been completely banned.
But in Lebanon, there is present both English forms, let's say Anglo-Saxon Freemasonry recognized by the United Ground of England, as well as lodges recognized by the Grand Orient of France.
Even lodges established by the Italians there.
So Iran has when the Shah left the country, the Grand Master there left the country with all the brothers and they establish the Grand Lodge of Iran in exile,
which I talk about in volume 10 of my confessions, which has an office here in California, Santa Monica, and it's still active to this day and is very much a lobby in Washington, which Pablo is in contact with the guy who eventually will be brought back to Iran.
I agree with you.
He's going to come back.
There's no question in my mind he's coming back.
That is the plan.
That is the plan.
That's the plan, you know, I mean, they want to bring back something.
I mean, it's not like Venezuela.
Venezuela is a completely different ballgame.
Venezuela is, by the way, a territory which is highly influenced by the church.
That's why the Pope has intervened in the last few hours, has stated that they want the sovereignty of the country back and that it has to be respected, the sovereignty of Venezuela, because, of course, they're not going to get their cut now.
So yeah, they want them back.
Volume 12, as you know, is based on the Jesuits and their control of Central and South America.
It's a priority.
It's always been a priority.
The Jesuits were founded in Spain and they moved along with the Spanish and Portuguese empires in colonizing countries, even as far as Japan or in the, you know, they went to at least attempt something.
Their base was in Goa in northern India, which was a Portuguese base.
So they moved along with the Spaniards and with the Portuguese.
And the center in South America is the Spanish and Portuguese.
I mean, that is a reality.
It's an historic reality.
It's not a conspiracy theory.
And today, if you go in South America, I mean, you see the legacy of the Jesuits is everywhere.
And so Chavez was very much protected by the previous Pope.
Chavez was probably in the end poisoned.
I remember, I think he was at some kind of event and President Bush, George H.W. Bush, was there.
And not George H., it was W. Bush.
So the little boy Bush.
So anyway, he had a book and he put his arm around.
And you need to read this.
It wasn't long after that that he went away.
So he messed with the wrong people.
Yeah.
Yeah, Chavez, though, the problem is that the legacy of Chavez is still what we are coping with.
I mean, the moral doctrine was not really a priority in the last few decades.
And for that reason, of course, Russia, as you know, started, I mean, I mean, but Russia then, when the fall of the Soviet Union, I think at that point, the Americans had the illusion that the Russians were no longer capable of influencing in any way South of Central America.
Because you know, I mean, you were involved yourself as a military at the time.
It was all because of guerrilla groups that were founded by the Soviet Union.
I mean, they were the big players at the time.
Today, the big players are China.
China is the one that literally goes and buys, they don't finance guerrilla groups.
They simply buy places.
They buy ports and say, this is our port.
We bring our ships and this is our goods.
And that is, of course, then there is still Russia involved.
And in fact, Russia, let's not forget that Russia was the one that a few weeks ago was said to have sent at least 100 soldiers, specialists alongside with an important officer.
So, but like I stated in my article, and of course, people can go and check it on realzagami.com, China and Russia will probably not do anything against Trump simply because now it's convenient for them, because they have an excuse to now follow up on their own projects.
I mean, they don't want to go and defend Maduro and Venezuela.
They don't care about Russia, cares about Ukraine, which historically is linked to them.
And China cares about Taiwan.
And Taiwan has also another key role in the technology of the future because of the microprocessors, because of the fact that they have really a very important role in the development of the key components for modern technology.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everything, yeah.
So that's what we're seeing now.
We're seeing kind of like these trade groups that are starting to formulate now: China, America, and Russia.
So it's a race to see who's going to be able to, you know, like, you know, America going to, and Israel going to, you know, Israel wants Iran out of the, wants Iran to go back to the Shah, which was for them a better way, you know, if they bring back Freemasonry to Iran, in a way, they have a better way of dialogue,
of working together, of making business and so on.
However, however, I don't know if a strong Iran with the return of the Pavlavi will be for Israel a completely positive thing.
Because let's not forget that the Pavlavi dynasty was not always, you know, siding with Israel.
And the Pavlavi dynasty, of course, is historically much older than the, I mean, Israel was born quite recently.
Here we are talking about a country with thousands of years of history.
That's why you can't simply bring back any person there.
They want to bring back the Pavlavi guy who is the son of the last Shah, even if he doesn't have any experience because he never had the experience of his father of actually ruling Iran.
He will be brought back there.
They will as a figure of a situation, though, that will be highly controlled by America.
But the problem is that at the moment.
Abraham Accords.
So the Abraham Accords are trading.
And I'm looking at it right now.
It's UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, Sudan, and Kazakhstan.
join in and trade.
So they want to expand that.
And I bet that Iran will be part of that.
Iran could be part.
But there is a problem here, though.
In the 19th, because it was 1979, 1978, it was the moment in which we have a lot of tension.
In the past decades before the revolution, there was this merging of leftist forces and the Shia clerics.
The Shia clerics like Khomeini were raised basically in the holy city there where is buried Ali, what it's called, Najaf there in Iraq.
You know Iraq better than me.
So you know the holy city where Ali is buried.
So there is this connection.
And there was this mix that took place, which is really very weird, because we have elements of socialism and elements of Marxism, along with the Islamic elements and the belief that the Sharia has to be respected in Toto and has to have also a police that controls the ladies that wear the scarf at the right measure,
and all that in a very obsessive way.
I think that of course the fact that this so-called new insurrections or possible potential revolution for a return of the Shah is no coincidence that these protests started after Netanyahu went to Mar-a-Lago.
I mean it would be stupid to think otherwise that there is no involvement of the Mossad.
The Mossad must have a direct involvement in this in this protest.
Oh yeah.
CIA saw it.
And I mean the protests are growing.
Trump is threatening to intervene.
And now people will say, what do you expect, Leo, for 2026?
You know, I mean, what should we expect?
Now, I can give you a very bleak view of the situation.
I don't know if you like it, but that's how it is.
Let's see what your prophetic abilities are.
Prophetic.
I mean, here is, I mean, from what I can see, geopolitically moving, Russia is going to expand also their takeover possibly of Odessa, which is a very important city historically.
That's going to probably happen this year.
There is definitely no way that at this point we can go and dialogue back with Putin.
It's just a waste of time.
It was a waste of time, probably maybe from the start.
But Trump believed somehow he had promised his electorate.
Trump made some promises.
And that is also part of 2026.
Those promises have been broken, starting from foreign intervention.
If we start having foreign intervention in Venezuela, because now with this vice president who is now president who wants to oppose the United States, boots on the ground might be a necessity, and that will end up in a never-ending war, no matter what they say.
And if you have, but then at the same time, Iran, and you want to give a hand to Israel, or we want to help the Iranian people.
That is back to Venezuela.
another reason why we went into venezuela is because they've been controlling the election election fraud was coming out of venezuela through the that is what i mean the the let's say the the legends of the internet or the mythology of the because i understand that the fact that you know they say oh the fraud started from venezuela And so Trump wants to go there because of the fraud.
Guys, Trump wants to go there because it's the biggest reservoir of oil in the world and the biggest also reservoir of rare earth in South America, which is essential for the future of our country.
If you want to compete with China, China has already flying cars, robots all over the place.
And what do we have?
So just be realistic.
It's not about some ideology.
Oh, the elections have been.
Yeah, Trump likes to, you know, now.
Now, I agree with you.
If we don't see some hammers coming down on all the knuckleheads here, the corruption and the we're seeing it, you know, in Wisconsin and all that kind of stuff.
We don't see some hammers really coming down across the United States.
Yeah, he's definitely.
If nothing happens, and if people like you, you know, you are, I mean, today you are actually stating something that I hope people remember.
I mean, if Trump doesn't do something, he's going to face defeat for his party in the midterm elections.
He's going to lose control of the both probably of the House and the House of Representatives.
At that point, Trump will become a lame duck president because they're going to impeach him, they're going to involve him in all kinds of things, and it's going to be a massive distraction from the real problems of the American people who have not been solved in the meantime.
Good point.
So people think that if he doesn't do it, I think we will.
I think there will be massive protest from organized people like myself.
I tell you, Michael, I think that MAGA is going to expire after the midterm elections.
That the whole concept of backing Trump will evaporate when there is a massive defeat.
Because at that point, it's going to be quite his party is going to rebel even against him.
Because if they want to have a future, the politicians, they don't care about an ideology.
You're right, it won't matter that if we rebel against him, the Democrats will totally annihilate him.
Like you're saying, they'll like impeach him again and just stop everything he's trying to push forward.
It'll be a defeat all the way around.
Now, some people say MAGA is dead already.
I think that the concept of making great America should never be dead.
It should be alive always in our hearts, regardless of the political movement that is representing and that Trump claims to be the guy who decides what makes America great.
He says, in regards to Venezuela, well, I want this country to be surrounded by peaceful neighbors or neighbors that are friendly.
This and that.
It's not really in the doctrine of our founders of this great nation, the United States, that said that we shouldn't enter in any kind of confrontation with other countries for interests that basically go beyond the United States of America.
So, yes, when it comes to the Panama Canal, I agree.
We needed to do something strong.
I mean, here we are talking about some, you know, it's a strategic thing that was created with the death of many Americans and the work of many Americans.
And so it's ridiculous to suddenly have the Chinese taking over the show.
Having said that, I think Maga is dead because all these infights are completely ridiculous.
I think that if we have to symbolically, you know, you tell me, I mean, you know, come today on the show and we discuss 2026.
I think to discuss the future, we need to know our past.
And what happened in 2025 with the death of Charlie Kirk, I think symbolically, it's the moment in which there is a fracturing of what used to be a very compact movement.
I don't know if that happened only because of his death or because his death coincided with the serious variable thing that happened.
But think about it.
I mean, now it's like it's a soap opera, Candy Sower against Alex Jones, Alex Jones against Candy Saw.
I mean, you're grown-ups.
What is this?
BS, Tim Paul against this, and then the guy says that, and then we have Ben Shapiro, Ben Shapiro.
Guys, this is really showing not only the fracturing, but it's showing really that, of course, we all knew that Trump had put together many different elements together.
And we were very, you know, very eager to make America again in the way that Trump promised.
But if you promise things and you don't deliver them, then it's not only a big disappointment, because the thing is, okay, Trump, during his,
you know, a long campaign that started from the moment of the 6th of January and after when Biden took control of the White House, Trump started his campaign for regaining control of the White House.
And we supported him.
We supported him because we believed that he could really change things.
When we saw a guy like Joe Biden, we were horrified that the White House could be in the hands of a senior idiot who put in his pants and who didn't know where he was.
And he was talking to the ghost that the people, they were not even.
I mean, it was just literally the most powerful man in the world.
The commander-in-chief was represented by a senile idiot.
It's just like incredible.
So, you know, of course, at that point, then these brilliant minds of the Democrat Party chose Kamala as a possible successor.
I mean, it's like choosing, I don't know, from a terrorist.
So you went from dumb, the dumber, the dumbest, the dummetist.
At that point, you know, obviously we had to believe that maybe Trump could do something better.
Trump at the same time took a lot of money from a lot of powerful people though.
And amongst those powerful people, there were friends of Jeffrey Epstein.
There were people he's still protecting to this day.
He compromised himself along the way because he wanted to win at all costs.
And so he said, you know, yeah, yeah, sure, we will do this, we will do that.
And, you know, it's not about at that point, it's not about the guy who lives, you know, in the middle of nowhere in some place in the United States who sent his $2 to the campaign.
It's about Elon Musk, who has given him millions of dollars.
It's about the big donors.
We have to be really realistic about this thing.
Even when you see the way that Trump has nominated the whole diplomatic corpse, aside from Kimberly, whatever, the ex-girlfriend of the sun, okay, whatever.
They said, okay, let's give her a place where in Athens, okay, let's get out of here.
Get her out of here.
Okay.
But the other ones, the other ones paid like 20 million, 40 millions, 50 millions to become ambassador in Italy or in France or in France, okay?
It was a relative.
So I'm not sure if it's true, but I've heard from other people that when he endorses someone, he gets paid to endorse people.
So I'm not knocking.
I love Trump, but there's lots of we have to always question.
We have to look at different things.
So that's what we're doing right now.
Now, what if Trump does start to do the MAGA thing and starts to arrest people and goes into Colorado and frees Tina Peters and all these other things?
What do you think happens then?
Okay, it doesn't really change the fact when I went to the supermarket this morning.
The butter was costing double as it was costing five years ago.
I don't care about arresting whoever.
You can arrest Barack Obama and hang him on the thing.
If I go and pay, and at the end of the day, I don't have the money to buy my food.
I don't care about it.
So, I mean, yes, I understand that there's a satisfaction.
The enemy gets arrested, but does it give you food?
Does it put food on the plate?
Does it put your health care in place in the right place when now people are risking to pay four times, five times as much?
And it's not a question of being, you know, a leftist, a Democrat or whatever.
It's common sense.
What Trump has been doing is generating a backlash that will bring a landslide victory for those idiotic and evil Democrats that at that point will take over the whole show.
And then they might even place Governor Newsom in the White House.
I mean, maybe vice president, the AOC.
Guys, at that point, remember, and I stated here on January 4th, 2026.
If that happens, remember, the only person responsible is Donald J. Trump.
He's the only one who should be arrested at that point.
Because if you let Governor Newsop become the president of this great country, then you screw it up forever, for everybody.
Now, some people don't think you're a Trump supporter, but you voted for Trump and you.
Let's make it.
You're just being realistic here.
I agree.
We need to look at this stuff.
I was involved in the organization of the Coachella Bali event, which was over 105,000 people here.
I mean, I was the president of Italians for Trump, which we found, and the Italian-American community was on board from the start with Trump because of us.
I mean, people, you know, I was given passes and stuff, you know, and I could do things like, you know, go to the backstage and everything.
And we had a great time.
And what really shocks me is when people say that, because, guys, if you think that somebody like me who worked for Operation Gladio stayed behind against the communists, risking my life behind the scenes, getting tortured in Europe, having to flee Europe and Italy because of my war against this crew, these people.
Why I don't like Trump.
Very obvious why I don't like Trump now.
He even supports a joke like Prime Minister Miloni, who is a fake conservative and a fake right-winger.
You want to change something in Europe.
Trump says he wanted to change, oh, there is censorship in Europe.
And then I wrote a letter to the ambassador in Rome.
I asked him for help because my case is a serious case that has to do with freedom of speech.
For the books I wrote, they brought me in front of a tribunal.
They wanted to take my life away and my livelihood.
He has done nothing because he's some rich guy from Texas who Trump has put there and he doesn't care about Leo Zayami or the freedom of speech.
He doesn't care about having problems with the Republic of Italy, which is the most corrupt republic in Europe, connected with Freemasonry, the mafia, and the worst scambags.
And I can tell you everything about it if you want, but I mean, we don't have time.
The weapons that go to the Middle East pass through Gio Yetauro.
Joya Tauro is in Calabria.
It's the Andrangeta Mafia together with the CA and others that then gets the weapons there.
And sometimes we have also intervention by the Chinese intelligence.
Yeah, yeah.
I did a show yesterday morning and I saw on the show Chinese intelligence basically taking pictures of my guest.
And he pointed it out, of course, that he was in Italy doing the show.
And so there is definitely Chinese influence there.
Who was a guest on your show?
Juano Sabin.
Okay.
And he was in Italy, yeah?
He'd been in Italy probably for about, I don't know, maybe five, seven days, maybe about a week.
I did a couple shows with him while he was in Italy.
But yeah, the one yesterday morning.
Well, it's not a surprise.
Not a surprise.
I mean, Chinese intelligence is all over the place in Italy.
They even have police bases that torture Chinese that go out of place.
They keep their control.
You remember the famous police, Chinese police stations that were also founded, by the way, here in America at one point.
They exist all over Europe and they exist also in Italy.
So, I mean, nobody does anything against them.
You've got the Chinese, you know, they come.
Imagine this.
I tell you one thing.
The Chinese have bought already part of the Italian national debt.
My brother, who works, he's a civil servant and works for IMPS, which is the one that gives the pensions to the military and everybody else, said that the other day there were 30 Chinese that went all the way to the top floor where the directors are.
30 Chinese.
Wow.
They have bought already their influence and America is not doing anything. to stop them.
So, I mean, the thing is this.
Okay, you want to go back to the real state.
I mean, I was an anti-communist.
I was brought up with my grandfather dying against the communists.
He was a senator.
He was beaten up to death once by the communists.
I had people in my family who had to flee Russia before the Bolsheviks took over the show.
I mean, I have direct involvement with this whole scenario.
And it's not because I simply go on the internet and I dislike the left.
I hate the left from the moment I was born.
I saw them, the way they were operating against me and my family, against people who had the same beliefs.
So the problem, and of course, they are controlling the Italian leather industry.
They have their base in Prato, near Florence.
The Chinese triads, in reality, depend from Chinese Freemasonry, the Hung Ha.
And the Hong Men, they have 6 million adherents around the world.
And they control.
People think that it's, oh, you know, why do the Chinese have all the dry cleaners?
And they think it's a coincidence.
They don't, oh, why?
They have all the dry cleaners.
You know how it works?
Let me tell you how it works.
The Chinese Communist Party and the Xi and the Xing Party, which is the party of the Freemasons of China, organizes a meeting with all, with thousands of Chinese families from a specific part, maybe of China or various parts of China.
And then says, okay, this is the plan.
This is the business.
These are the countries in the world.
Go and do it and take over their show.
And that's what they do.
This is the money to buy the activities.
Now you own all the dry cleaners in the world.
What does that mean?
I tell you what it means.
It means that if they want to kill you, they can do it in a second.
They simply put poison on your clothes.
Wow.
Wow.
I bet there's been a lot of people that have gone that way and no one knows anything about that.
About that.
Yeah, you know.
So I always try to have a good relationship with my Chinese dry cleaners.
In any case, it's true.
I mean, the people, just here in California, we have one of the most important historical lodges of Chinese Freemasonry.
During the pandemic, you remember at one point, Xi Jinping came to California and there were people with the communist flag like this in San Francisco.
You remember that?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, during that time, Xi Jinping, of course, then they went to this.
There is a place historical where there's this lodge, which was born out of the guy who then was the founder of modern China.
Now, the founder of Modern China happens to be the same for both the mainland and for Taiwan.
Because up until the division sanctioned by Mao Zedong with the birth of Communist China, Taiwan was still with mainland China.
Yeah.
Shiang Kai-shek.
Yes.
So, and then there was all the money that was given to Shang Kai-shek and all those people to back this whole thing.
Wow.
Interesting.
So there is actually still some of these hypothetical money hold in secret places and stuff.
There's all this talk about Chinese dragon families that have all this.
You remember at that point, there was also Japanese at one point in Italy, then they disappeared.
Then I was called into the question.
I went to Tokyo and I talked to the representative was because people, Benjamin Fulford, who, by the way, pretends to be an alternative kind of source of information, he's a tool of the Chinese Freemasons.
He was initially, really.
Got that bag about that.
Woo, you just blew him up, Leo.
Good job.
I always knew there was something strange about him.
So he just wasn't clicking his information.
It's like, disinformation one week and a little bit of truth the next week.
And it's like, I just didn't never really clicked.
No, I mean, I went there with my with Christie.
We were in Tokyo.
And at one point, I was in his apartment and I see this stuff on the wall.
And it was compass and square stuff, which I could recognize.
So I confronted him and he confirmed that he had been initiated in the Chinese Freemasons.
He described me also the initiation.
They bring you downstairs.
There's a bunch of dead bodies of skeletons with the incense burning.
And it's very basic.
It's like, you're not going to go back upstairs.
You're going to stay with them if you don't take this off and respect it for the rest of your life.
Now, at one point, Benjamin Fulford was brought by me in Rome and then Milan to meet with a series of people.
And then, and he there confirmed, yes, Leo, I work for the Chinese.
So what's a Canadian influence?
You know, he's Canadian and he's been working in Japan.
He talks about all this crazy stuff.
He was because he was working with Forbes.
He used to be actually a serious journalist.
He was the head of the Asian Bureau back in the day.
And then suddenly the Chinese got hold of him.
They got hold of him because people might not know that, but the Chinese also have Japanese initiates in their Freemasonry.
Their form of Freemasonry is very different from our forms of Freemasonry.
Okay, it's simple, it's very simple.
This secret society existed from a very old time, but when they saw the symbols of Western Freemasonry, like all the things that Chinese steal, they stole those two, including the compass and the square.
But then they, and so they created the Chinese Freemasons, but the reality is a completely different thing from Western Freemasonry.
They have also regular Chinese Freemasonry in Taiwan, which still exists in Taiwan.
But like I said, the actual hunger man is a completely different thing.
It's also known as the Tian Dui, it's the society of Earth and Sky is known.
It's a very complex history that goes back also to the beginning of martial arts and the way they were spread by the Shaolin monks.
And then, so let's say that Chinese Freemasonry is also connected with the spread of Chinese martial arts.
Wing Chung and what we commonly refer to as kung fu and all the rest.
Yeah, I studied that very deeply for a while.
Now, that's a very when you get butter.
What kind of butter do you get?
I just have to go off topic because you're obviously an Italian and you know cooking.
Well, I tend to tend to get organic if I can, because I, you know, I like you are showing, of course, our family cooking book.
I will always suggest to use the best material possible.
You never want to, I mean, I think that the important thing in life is not to exceed with you know, spending a lot of money in buying, you know, expensive this or that.
But when it comes to food, remember that you are made out of what you eat.
So you want to invest in your own health.
You want to limit the intake maybe of certain things.
Like this year I've decided, for example, that for a few months I'm going to limit the intake of meat probably for a period just so I can purify myself.
Nice.
But of course, it's not that I'm going to probably maintain it for the rest of my life because I know that in the past when I had a vegetarian diet for one or two years, at times then I needed to find alternatives and it wasn't so easy.
But I mean, these are the things.
It's about definitely quality over quantity.
And that is the important thing.
Very good.
Now, there's another one off topic: Sufi.
The Sufis I never asked you about this always mentally.
So the Sufis, obviously, in Islam, they're kind of like the, you know, they're outcast.
But I've always liked the Sufis and they had their roots in Persia.
And well, actually, they had their roots in Persia because they have the roots in Shia Islam.
They then later on developed towards Sunni Islam, but they initially developed in Shia Islam because Shia was a minority, because Shia at times had to be secretive about their practices.
That's what facilitated the birth of the first confraternities of Sufis within the Shia Islam.
Yeah.
So I mean, I love the Sufism.
You know, they're very spiritual, you know, the whirling dervish, Rumi poetry.
When my book, The Intuitive Warrior, came out, the Sufis in France invited me over to talk about the book, but the rest of the Muslims did not like it.
So they ostracized me, but I spoke to the Sufis.
But yeah, they're pretty impressive group.
Let's say this: that the Sufis can be many things.
I mean, there is many kinds of Sufism, like there is many kinds maybe of Freemasonry at this point.
I would say, though, that the Sufis, there is the Sufi, like I explained in volume 10 of my confessions, it was the ideal ground also for connecting with Freemasonry because Freemasons, you know, having this secretive nature, this initiatic nature, understanding certain mystery school traditions.
Let's not forget the Sufis is not only Islam.
Often they blend elements of Gnosticism, elements that come from Hermeticism, that come from other traditions.
So they're not only strictly Islamic in their interpretation.
They're very open-minded.
And that's why I think that they became, but then they were also, of course, those Sufis that became corrupted by the fact that the Freemasons maybe offered them to not only perfectionate themselves or follow whatever mystery school tradition they were following,
but they became involved in geopolitics, in uprisings.
So Sufis became corruptible in certain countries, unfortunately.
I see you have some problem with your cameras going a little bit all over the place.
You managed to fix it?
It does sometimes.
Okay.
Turn it off and turn on the other one.
Okay, okay, perfect.
The thing is that in this, you know, we have a Western initiatives system, but then we have an Eastern Initiatic system.
And then, of course, we have a Middle East Initiatives system where the Sufis are at times the Illuminati of the situation, let's say.
They have not in the negative necessarily sense.
Sometimes, though, in the negative also, because, like I said, in some countries, they became involved both with the English or the French, and they became involved in uprisings, they became involved with the things that they don't really pertain to their practice.
So, wow, what a great show.
A lot of insights on a lot of different things.
Going back to that visit of Xi Jinping with, you know, Gabby Newsome.
Let's not forget that Gabriel Newsome was received in China like he was a pop star.
Like, he was like, you remember that visit that Newsom did in China?
It was like two or three years.
He was like, wow, he was received.
So you can imagine Newsome in the White House.
China would be like, wow, we made it finally.
That's why they're pushing Newsome.
But there is a connection.
San Francisco, San Francisco is the place where the very start of the Republic of China was put together.
And And it's actually one, let's not forget one of the most the oldest communities, the Chinese community here in America is very influential.
But the connections that the Chinese Freemasons in San Francisco have with the Democratic Party, you should check them out.
They are pretty shocking and led to some scandals and stuff.
Sure.
So I think that people need to understand that when you have as next governor possibly in California, Mr. Fartman Swalwell.
You remember Swalwell?
Yeah.
You had Feng Fang?
Yeah.
Feng Feng.
She was a known Chinese Intel suffering.
And yet he's still good to go.
And he was in Intel at the time.
Yeah.
That should have been a red flag.
And he's going to become probably the new governor of California.
Oh, you think he's going to do it?
Okay.
We hope.
Well, we hope that he doesn't manage.
But I mean, he has the backing of the Hong Men, the Tiandui, the Heaven on Earth Society.
He has the backing, of course, of all these people, very influential people here in California.
The Jesuits, the people who control California are the Jesuits and the Chinese Freemasons.
Yeah, also remember Diane Feinstein.
Her butler or driver or whatever.
Of course, also a Chinese intel guy.
Yeah.
California is riddled with Chinese influence.
How about that?
Wow, you really brought that light.
Good job.
And then I mean, there is actually, there was this guy.
Let me see if I can remember the name.
It was a Chinese mafia guy who then at one point he's involved with the Democratic Party at very high level.
Rymond Shrimp Boy Cho.
Have you ever heard of him?
Okay, Rymond Shrimp Boy Cho.
At one point, he went and did also these documentaries and things like he had redeemed himself.
He was clean.
This guy is one of the worst tags of the Chinese mafia and the Chinese Freemasons.
He's an Hong Kong-born convicted felon who led San Francisco Chinatown and controlled it in a way like no other.
He was the dragonhead of the Qigun Tung, which was the maximum expression of the Tian Dui there.
And then him, Rymond the Shrimp Boy Chow, was connected to this.
Let's see if I can find to this Democratic guy.
Let me see if I can find.
This is the show you on your, you can put him on the thing because these are friends of Nancy Pellows.
I mean, this is the kind of guys, you know.
Shrimp boy.
Shrimp boy.
Shrimp boy, very, very powerful guy.
And in fact, watch here, Cho, along with 20 other defendants, former California state senator Leyland, this guy, Democrat guy.
Wow.
Democrat.
And he was the second highest ranking Democrat of the California State Assembly.
And he was involved with the Jitong Tong.
This is the headquarters.
And this is where the founder of modern China was living when he was in San Francisco.
See?
Wow.
So, I mean, it's not like we're making up here conspiracy theories.
These are conspiracy facts.
So, at least you can go and check them out.
So, I mean, they got it covered on both ends because there's a Chi An who's on the Republican side running for governor.
Yeah.
So, let me let me pull him up.
So, I've been to some of these, you know, where they all talk and he was there.
And Soon Yat-sen, watch, and he's and he's a priest.
Wow, that makes it even more sick than ever.
Oh, no, no, no.
Here he is.
It's South Korea.
I'm sorry.
So, he's from South Korea.
Yeah.
Now, but check out what I'm showing you.
I'm going to share something now.
We said that that was the place.
I don't want to pick on the South Koreans, but he's oriental guys.
Okay, so this place is very important, like I said, historically in San Francisco.
It's like when Xi Jinping goes to San Francisco, it's almost like going to Mecca for him because the Chi Kun Tung are the most recognized for the political support of Sun Yat-sen.
And Su Yat-sen is the Chinese physician, revolutionary statesman, and political philosopher who founded the Republic of China and his first political party, the Kumyn Tang, that then was preceded, of course, the long march of Mao Zedong.
And he was, I mean, here we're talking about the history.
You understand it's quite incredible that the history of China passed through California and some crazy.
No wonder there's such influence, Chinese influence.
Wow.
Here you're talking.
And now after the success of the 1990s, Sun proclaimed the establishment of the Republic of China.
Now, the Republic of China today is Taiwan.
Yeah.
After the because then, you know, so is this a good against bad?
We have the communists and we have the, you know, the Republic of China.
No, there is no good ability about China.
There's no good Chinese involve here.
Wow.
Let me tell you the truth.
When I was actually, I remember, because then at one point I remember I'm not in contact any longer with Benjamin Fulford, but three or four years ago, at one point, I was discussing, you know, Taiwan and mainland China.
And he said one honest thing to me.
He said, YMS, well, you know, that we took the same off and that in Taiwan, we have already all our men ready.
There is not going to be even a need to shoot anybody.
We already take over the show in a few minutes, not even a few hours.
So they're going to just take the Chinese right on in, huh?
The thing is that their lodges already control part of Taiwan and are already so well infiltrated in the military and everything that the moment.
So the crazy thing about us sending billions of dollars of weapons to Taiwan, because people will say, Sagam is wrong.
America is sending billions of dollars of weapons to Taiwan to defend themselves from mainland China.
No, idiots.
We are simply giving billions of dollars to the military-industrial complex and to those people who continue to make money.
And we Americans are financing this disgrace.
That's the problem.
I mean, Loki Martin is making money, not the average folk.
Yep.
So, I mean, you blew it all up again, Leo.
God, the Chinese influence around the world, and especially in California, and pushing their peeps, Gavin Newsome, into the White House.
Boy, you're right, they would be like jumping up and down.
They'll own America then.
They would be like most happy because I repeat: if you simply want an experience of Gavin Newsome in China, you go and find it probably on YouTube, Gavin Newsome in China.
And it's like, I don't know.
I mean, like they received a hero, you know.
It was like, I mean, it was even almost embarrassing the way they, you know, and the way we received Xi Jinping with the communist flags in San Francisco like this and cleaning up San Francisco that was full of literally full of feces and other stuff and cleaning it all up so it all looked perfect for the arrival of Ji Jinping.
I mean, come on, guys.
It's just like a joke.
And who was the guy who everybody who made all this possible?
It was the Sabbatean Frankist, Harry Kissinger, which I explained in my book on Jeffrey Epstein, was excommunicated by Rabbi Hunter.
And actually, I have a photo of the excommunication of Harry Kissinger in my book, which I can show you.
This was the rabbinical council that excommunicated Harry Kissinger.
He, Harry Kissinger, went to Israel and then ordered a sandwich with prosciutto.
It's not caution, guys, in any way, shape, or form.
Oh, my God.
In their face with it.
Oh, so funny.
So, and you know, the Rothschilds who are the Sabbathian Frankists own 20% of the Chinese National Bank.
Yeah, just so.
Well, here's a good question for you.
I heard the Chinese were promised by the deep state to be the next world leader.
Well, I said it, you know, this year I celebrate 20 years of Illuminati Confessions.
And in 2006, when I started my confession online, I said that the model the Illuminati delite was aiming for was the Chinese model because that's the model of complete control over the masses.
And that's why Klaus Schwab's son.
I had no idea until this conversation, really.
I thought they were like, you know, you know, back-end player trying to make it to the top, but looks like Klaus Schwab's son lives most of his time in Beijing.
He has an office there.
That's why the great reset is about Russia and China, but mostly China taking over the world and installing their cyber Satan, you know, their AI communist right.
And about control of religion, because that was also the deal with the Vatican, which I've been talking about in my books.
The deal with the Vatican that started in the fall of 2018 and that was renewed until now, which now makes the Catholic Church a state church where the images of Jesus are at times substituted with the images of Mao Zedong.
And there is a complete compliance with what used to be the national nationalistic and nationalistic Catholic Church, which was created by the Communist Party in the 1950s.
They nominated the communist Chinese their own bishops, and then suddenly the Vatican now recognizes them.
It's just absolute mentally, that makes me just insane.
Yeah.
So here's somebody saying Russians will inherit the top spot.
So it sounds maybe it's a race to the top.
Like you said, the new world order, so the new New World Order.
It's a Sino-Russian world order.
And the alliance between Russia and China is an alliance that we can't understand, but it's so strong that nothing can break it.
Believe me.
And yeah, the two of them combined, that would be a hard one to defeat.
Wow.
And along with them, you have, of course, Iran, North Korea, and all the various Paria states or whatever around the world, but also the ones that now want to play bricks and want to play alternative to the United States.
So now, actually, the whole thing is becoming more and more impactful, also against the dollar.
Yeah.
So this is great.
So this is where everybody should be looking.
You know, when you see this jockeying for power, the bigger picture here is United States, you know, trying to exert its influence.
Epstein was giving the info on how to deal with Trump to the Russians.
Wow.
Interesting.
And that is another big problem.
So Trump has unfortunately some skeletons in the closet at this point that Russia is able to.
I think that you should never believe again in any promise of peace.
At this point, it's clear that Russia is going to advance and it's going to complete their mission in making Ukraine their own.
And if you see, at this point, I noticed this, and I want to close the show with this fault.
We have three players, major players, who now are taking a stand in a new direction for a new world order.
Venezuela, Trump, and maybe Greenland next, and maybe some other country next.
Yeah.
Canada.
Okay.
At that point, China does the same.
Russia continues to do the same.
Europe is the loser.
The big loser of all this is Ukraine.
And of course, Great Britain, which is starting to, they still have, of course, the backing of the Commonwealth, this big organization of the former empire that a lot of those countries are starting to jump on board with China, the new Silk Road.
And so it's eroding slowly that influence is eroding.
And in fact, yes, it's true that the main reason for Prince Andrew to become now Andrew Mountbatten we insert no longer prince is Epstein.
But in reality, he was also facing an even bigger scandal because of his deals with the Chinese.
Wow.
How about that?
And that was surfacing in the last few months before he gave up on the title.
There was a lot of pressure because that is another thing.
Let's not forget that Hong Kong was British and then given back, you know, and that was a very big, You know, the Boer Wars or whatever, making them, you know, buy opium with silver, taking their silver.
So it's a silver thing again.
I think, you know, who controls the most silver going forward is going to be very, very in the right spot, too.
So China's not their silver shipments.
Russia stopped their silver shipments.
Yeah.
They are building a nuclear site on the moon for that.
They don't care about any more silver here on earth.
For real, they're going to Russia are going to colonize the moon before America, unfortunately.
And they are taking, you know, the silver that you mentioned here on Earth.
In the end, you know, this is a small planet with small limited resources.
There is a lot of other resources in space.
And that's why they want to build this nuclear reactor on the moon soon.
Wow.
So you go harvest all that stuff.
And God, yeah, there's all kinds of stuff out in the like.
So somebody says, don't be naive.
Europe will win.
Listen, guys, trust me, there is no longer going to be a European pope.
And that is a side of the times simply because Europe is really irrelevant.
Germany was relevant for the last few decades simply because Angela Merkel made a deal taking the fossil fuels from Russia and being able to still carry on the big factories.
But now Germany is in full decline.
And once you have the decline of Germany, the rest of Europe is going down.
And it's very cheap to buy.
And China is arriving and buying it.
So I think that it's pretty clear that Europe is the place that will be squeezed out of these three big players, you know.
And then, of course, America, China, Russia can decide what to do with this continent and what is left over of this continent.
Let's not forget that this continent now is suffering a mass influx of Islamic people that are transforming the very essence of Europe.
And because they are not making any more children, there is no children in Italy.
There's no new children in Germany.
So they brought in all the illegal aliens to keep the population up.
The only ones making children are those.
So I think that people need to understand the great loser here is Europe, but don't think that, of course, the Illuminati and the elite is not present in Europe.
That's their birthplace.
But I can tell you from my personal experience, I know how it is.
Every single aristocrat or person who is investing money today has invested in China, has invested away from Europe.
So they don't care anymore, really, about the inevitable decline of it.
So for 2026, we will see more European decline, more expansion of the war in Ukraine.
And probably this war, if it starts with boots on the ground in Venezuela, will become the biggest problem for the future of MAGA, or what is left of it.
And of course, this year will be also the year in which, with the midterm elections, there will be sanction, maybe the end of this whole movement, the way we knew it.
Could be.
Yep, let's keep it.
I wasn't so positive about that future, but I had to be realistic.
Yeah, you do.
And, you know, that sometimes wakes people up and pushes in the direction it needs to go.
So don't always have your eyes on a certain direction.
You have to look big picture, you know, be observant of everything that's going on.
And maybe you can switch what's coming down the road, like we're talking about.
Like, alternative for Deutschland, for example, which wanted to be the alternative that Elon Musk was pushing in Germany.
Well, in the last few weeks and months, most of the leaders have been literally killed by the German intelligence.
That's right.
Wow.
And they are being killed just like the ones from the Golden Dawn in Greece a few years back when they tried a similar approach.
There is no way you can oppose what they are trying to do in Europe, which is simply an economy of war.
They think that they can substitute the old economy with an economy of war.
But the problem is that the war doesn't go on forever.
And once the economy of war is finished, what are you going to do?
What are you going to offer the future for 500 million people in Europe?
So we are much better off here on this side of the world for the moment, though we have our own problems.
And our own problems started to resemble the problems of Europe and Great Britain with the first Islamic mayor in New York, which I think is the first of a long series of Islamic mares.
Now, in the United Kingdom, in England, the major town, the major towns, all the major cities are all in the hands of Islamic mares.
And that is because the new world order knows very well that Islam is a way, it's a religion they can work with, they can control better.
Yeah, you've said that in the past, and that's a good point.
So, yeah, there's probably going to be a continual push for Islam throughout the world.
Here in America, they're pushing Islam in here really big.
Islam and then this strange mix, which is Islamo-communism, Islamo-socialism, because it's just like Mamdani.
Mamdani, yeah, you know, that is really what it's all about.
But then let's, yeah, so it's crazy.
Well, uh, I hope you know that this country will be able to resist, and I'm sure it will, because, like you said earlier, a lot of people will at one point simply decide to oppose all this.
And I hope they will still be able to do it until there will be a robocop on the street, a robo-soldier on the street.
And those it's very difficult to oppose those kind of things.
Oh, no.
I saw a video the other day of a robot who gave a kick in the nuts to a guy who was fighting with him.
Simply, you know, he aimed for the NASA.
And the guy went down.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
And they do, you know, even the Elon Musk robots do already martial arts and stuff.
But imagine a robot giving you a knock.
That is like that's metal.
So that is the problem here.
2030 and what I always said in my books, volume 6.66, volume 7, volume 9, the rise of cyber Satan.
Because ultimately, regardless of China taking control of that technology, which they already have and they are doing, the fact is that Cyber Satan is something that really aims for the transformation of mankind.
So there is going to be those who reject all this, but then we're going to have to get hold of a place, of an island, of a place of independence where we rise big walls and we fight these people.
We don't let their drones in.
We don't let their technology in.
How you see that, Michael?
Yeah, I mean, that's going to be we have a lot on our plate.
But we have to start making progress, I think, like you're talking about, MAGA here at home.
And if that doesn't start to roll, then I think that by the end of this year, me and you will have a chat.
We will finally, you know, realize where we are.
Yep.
And at that point, we will say, okay, screw this.
Or it's time to invest in something that's going to happen here in America, or it's time to leave.
One or the other.
I simply want to drain the swamp.
And the swamp is still there.
And Trump is actually having a yacht on the swamp and inviting everybody to party with him.
And then he's going to get off and sink it like the Titanic.
I don't know.
Well, I hope we can sink this yacht, but the swamp is there.
It's alive and kicking in Washington, D.C.
And everybody who goes to Washington disappoints us.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's just, what is it?
The air, they breathe.
In the meantime, you can read Marie DeSta article and then what is happening with at the geopolitical level, how the three big gangsters are dividing the world.
I mean, it's okay.
Brilliant, brilliant work.
Brilliant conversation.
And, you know, we definitely appreciate you.
Thank you so much, Michael.
Thank you for your audience for this great start to the new year.
I will be now in the next few months deep emerging myself deep in my next literary project, which I hope.
Looking forward to it.
Hopefully, it's going to come out before the summer.
And I'm not going to tell you what it's about.
Stop sick.
But it's going to be easy, right?
Good job.
Good job.
But it's going to be a very good thing.
Every one of your books that comes out becomes a bestseller.
And in the meantime, I'm carrying on a celebration of my 20 years of Illuminati confessions.
I'm kind of like weekly discussing them because it's been an experience, you know, for 20 years.
20 years ago, it was a very different world for a lot of people.
It's in imagining or, you know, even to think that we were discussing this subject 20 years ago.
But we were.
And people should have waken up by now.
But unfortunately, that's not the case.
That's why we are still in these conditions.
But people like, you know, me, David Icke, Alice Jones, and many others, Jordan Maxwell, and of course also you and others have made the world a better place in a way.