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Nov. 20, 2025 - The Leo Zagami Show
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Exposing Trump and the Roots of Epstein's Sabbatian Frankist Blackmail Operation
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Hello, everyone.
It's Michael Jacob with Unleashed Intuition Secrets.
Let's see if I'm finding the right spot here.
So I'm going to give you guys a nice view of the lake.
All right.
So, Bondi, Pam Bundy, is going to release the Epstein files within 30 days.
All right.
So, I don't know if the Senate has voted yet on that, but regardless, she's going to release the files within 30 days.
So, there'll probably be, there's still going to be some, you know, stuff taken out.
So, it's not revealing people's names and so forth.
So, I think we don't have to worry about that.
What is it going to reveal?
You know, it's going to reveal what it's going to reveal.
And until you get judges that will convict, which you're not going to get until you get military involvement, it means nothing.
And I think that's one of the reasons why President Trump was so reluctant to, you know, push it because it's like, you know, we need to get this done first.
All right.
And I think we're going to find out.
All right.
Now, I think that the military will be involved at some point.
We will not have free and fair elections.
All of us know that unless the military gets involved.
Right.
Cut and dry.
We have a captured operation in almost every county of America.
And there's cheating that goes on.
It's been cheating that's been going on for so long that it's not going to stop until somebody comes in and puts a stop to it physically by force.
Right.
And if anyone wants to F around, they're going to find out.
Right.
So this has to happen.
And that's why we saw yesterday.
And I put the video out yesterday and other people did as well.
I think I saw Juan O'Saban talking about it.
It is very interesting how you had all those people with military backgrounds and intelligence backgrounds that came out and were telling the military that they should not obey unlawful orders.
Duh.
All right.
We all know that.
So what are you trying to instigate there?
All right.
It's very obvious.
It's very obvious.
They're trying to make people double think.
And then, of course, they have people that are within the military.
You look at all of the people, you know, that pretty much, I won't say all of them.
I work with really good officers over the years in the military.
The best ones usually rises to the top.
Same thing with enlisted.
The best ones don't rise to the top, guys, because you have this, you know, they want to control everything.
And so political agendas get involved.
We've seen that with a lot of people, like Admiral McCraven, right?
SIL.
He went full on with Obama.
Obama appointed him.
So he went full on to the Obama camp and he attacked President Trump.
All right.
So we've had other people that were at SIAL Team 6 when I was in the CIA in very close to Islamabad, Islamabad, where Bin Laden was taken.
Former SEAL TEAM SIX uh guy that uh was on uh a show just recently and he was talking about how Obama uh wanted the raid to be delayed a day so that he could do his.
He had like a a press you know dinner or something with all the press.
So he wanted delayed a day.
So they delayed it a day.
And because they delayed it a day, That's why one of the helicopters crashed, because of the difference in temperature and lift and all that kind of stuff.
So, you know, political bullshit, guys.
And I saw it the whole time I was in the military.
Rules of engagement.
Once we went in, it was like, you know, it's, you know, kick ass.
And if you feel threatened, then you can kill the enemy or kill somebody that you feel threatened by.
And then eventually it was, okay, you need to like not do this.
You need not to shoot these guys.
And you need to like, you know, make sure if you shoot somebody, you shoot them like this.
It was insane.
Absolutely insane.
Right.
Now, when I was in, fortunately, when I was in the CIA, you get, I was like a James Bond guy, licensed to kill, right?
You get it, you F up, you're going to find out, right?
So fortunately, I was able to, you know, move and groove and never get in a position where somebody needed to find out.
So that's what we're seeing right now with our political situation.
We have incredible rules of engagement that are not make absolute no sense.
And so we have to come in with good leadership from the military, good leadership from the military, not compromise military, not judges, not military, not political types that have agendas.
So this has to be cleaned up.
There's a lot of cleaning up that has to be done.
And it's not going to happen overnight.
So Epstein files released.
So-and-so was on the Epstein.
We already know Clinton was on 26 trips to Epstein Island, but he didn't go on the Epstein jet.
And did he go to the island?
Just because he was on the jet and went to St. Thomas where Epstein's jet landed, it didn't land on the island.
There was no airport on the island.
There was only boats that could get to the island or helicopters.
So there's no manifest for either of those.
So Bill Clinton flies on Lolito Express to St. Thomas, and that's where it ends.
So it's going nowhere, guys.
Everybody's like, oh, he was on the Lolita Express to, you know, Epstein Island.
No, he went to, they, whoever they were, went to St. Thomas.
So maybe they got a, they could say, well, I just went to St. Thomas and, you know, I just had some meals and so forth, and I left.
Maybe, and for a lot of people, maybe that's true.
Maybe they just went to St. Thomas or maybe they went to not little St. James, but they had a larger island.
I don't know if you call it Big St. James or whatever, but he had a larger island as well.
Now, Epstein, how did he make his money?
We know that the CIA, Mossad, and, you know, MI6, they were funneling money to Epstein.
What was Epstein doing that money?
Right?
Was he like buying the ranch in New Mexico?
And he was given the New York mansion by, what's that, that guy who had Victoria's Secret, whatever that guy is.
Nothing's ever happened to him.
So he was given the mansion by that guy.
And then we have, you know, of course, Little St. James and Big St. James, whatever, and his own private jet and all these other things.
And did they just funnel money to him?
And he was like an investment billionaire?
No.
He was an idiot.
Everyone that was investment grade, you know, in the stock exchange and so forth, they're like, this guy didn't even know what the hell he was doing.
I asked him questions and he was like, he didn't know.
All right.
So they gave him the money.
They created a facade.
And with the money they gave him, now we're already finding out there are Democrat Congress people that got Epstein money.
Money laundering.
Hello.
Money laundering.
Money laundering.
All right.
This is going to be a big thing going forward.
All right.
So the Democrats want to like reveal.
Let's think of the Democrats.
They're in their own, they're out in the ocean.
They're all like playing.
They're throwing the ball.
They're all like having fun.
And then, you know, we find out that they've been doing bad things and they know that they're in trouble.
So what does one of them do?
Takes out a knife and stabs one of their Democrat fellows.
And then they say, run, run, shark, shark.
Because now the shark's going to come to the blood.
The blood filled water and start to, they're chumming.
So they're like going to start to take out.
This is what we're seeing right now with the Democrat Party.
They're sacrificing themselves to try and misdirect, you know, information, misdirect attention.
Yeah, look at them.
They're bad.
They're bad.
And the person that's saying, look at them is probably one of the worst.
All right.
So we're going to see this be revealed.
And again, will they be held accountable?
Will they be held accountable?
Who's going to hold them accountable?
Because they own the judges.
They own the judges.
They own a lot of the law enforcement and FBI and CIA.
So, you know, that has to be cleaned up.
And when Trump was taken down in 2020, he could have gone, he could have gone on, but, you know, they had everything.
They had everything on them.
They got blindsided.
So now they're smarter.
They know who the problem people are.
And they're coming after them, starting to take them down.
Like all of those 51, I think it was, former Intel, you know, high ups, some of them former CIA heads of the CIA and so forth.
All of them lost their security clearances.
So there's a methodical taking down of the system.
James Comey looks like he's going to get off.
And did he reveal?
Or was it just a big ploy?
So everybody's looking at that.
But the judicial system kept him alive.
So the judicial system has to be taken out.
And maybe that's another reveal because everybody's like, oh, we got him.
He's like, he's going to go down.
It's like, no, he's not going to go down.
The judicial system is corrupt.
Hello.
Hello.
Right.
So that has to be taken care of.
So Epstein Island, what?
What?
Like what?
There's nothing there.
You can't convict somebody that got on a jet and flew to St. Thomas.
Then you have to get them going to the island and there's no record.
And then you have to get somebody to like verify that they're on the island.
Okay.
Maybe somebody's like, there's somebody took a picture and they're at the island and that gets shared.
But that's nothing.
What were they doing?
They're standing around in the water.
And we've seen some pictures like that.
What does that mean?
Oh, he's at Epstein Island.
So, all right.
So many of you have gone to places where crimes have been committed.
All right.
So because you were there, oh, you're guilty.
Like, no, there has to be a crime.
And somebody has to has to like prove it.
This is not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
Now, you have people that have saying, you know, of course, Gizlaine Maxwell and all these other people that were involved in recruiting.
You know, a lot of these people have said, yeah, I got recruited.
And some of the Victoria Secret models, you know, I got recruited.
All these different things.
All right.
So we know that some of these people were involved.
We know that some of these people recruited.
And then some of those people were abused.
And some of them have come out.
Some of them, their names were redacted.
Some of them have come out openly.
And some of those people that came out openly are dead now, right?
Suicided.
So who wants to stand up and say that, you know, so-and-so, like Prince so-and-so, you know, you know, raped me when I was like 16, 17, whatever.
And then that person comes out and says that.
And now they're dead.
Right?
They got millions of dollars, but now they're dead.
What does that do for them?
Who else wants to raise their hand and say they got abused?
Not so many, right?
So that's the problem also with revealing the Epstein files because you have people that are going to like, you know, cross-verify, oh, that's that person.
Oh, Cindy Bye bye is now, you know, involved and she's going bye-bye, right?
So that's, that's what we're going to see.
That's what we're going to see.
So everybody that wanted this, we want the files, we want the files, we want the files before it's time, before it's time.
And they pressed it and they pressed it and they pressed it.
And the Democrats saw, okay, they got a lot of people that want to do this.
We can use this.
We can jump the water with this.
And some of our people will die, but we will survive.
Right.
So that's what they're doing.
That's what they're doing.
All right.
So now we can correlate and we can transpose the Epstein files onto election theft.
We can transpose it onto child trafficking.
Hundreds of thousands of children missing in the United States.
Hundreds of thousands.
Right.
And we know that some of them have been rescued and we have their information.
They're redacted to a certain extent.
But, you know, we can, I've had so many people on my show that have revealed this stuff, guys, and nothing happens because the judicial system is corrupt, because the child protective services is corrupt, right?
I'm going to have a guest on my show coming up Monday, and they got, you might remember how a while back, child protective custody came and took their children, right?
So they're going to come on my show and talk about it.
But I've had many people talk about this.
How this one woman was involved with a man that was very rich, very powerful, and their children were being abused.
We've seen this over and over again.
So she came on my show and she talked about it.
She talked about how her son was being taken by the husband and being raped, right, by the father and other people, right?
We know this.
This is happening every single day, hundreds of times, every single day, all over America and thousands of times all over the world, right?
It's not, and then again, it's not just America.
It's world, it's a worldwide problem.
And we're trying, the Trump administration is trying to do a worldwide takedown.
So I'm not saying we need to like just be patient.
No, we need to be involved.
We need to watch this.
We need to be in, we need to be, you know, commenting and sharing and all these kinds of things.
But you need to understand this is this is not going to happen like that.
It's not going to happen like that, right?
Everybody's like, oh, yeah, we got the information on them.
So what?
So what?
Right.
We've had information on a lot of these people and they've been revealed for a long time.
So it doesn't make any difference at this point, at this point.
So yeah, very, very frustrating.
Many of us that have seen this, that have been involved with it for, you know, years, five years now, at least.
Now, I've seen it a lot more, many years before, but I've known that you're not going to take these people down.
They have incredible power, incredible power.
You're talking about people that heads of state, like Bill Clinton, you know, Bush family, so on and on and on.
You're not going to take these people down.
You look at Joe Biden molesting people right in front of us on camera, molesting children.
And did the Democrats speak out about that, outrage or anything?
No.
So you got people, normal people that are covering for these people.
That should have, when that happened, there should have been a friggin outrage.
There should have been people like storming that guy, right?
Joe Joe, right?
Bye-bye, Jojo.
All right.
So eventually caught up with him and he is bye-bye.
But what did he go bye-bye for?
Right?
You know, I posted a meme, I think it was yesterday, and it had Biden with his like, his like look, you know, and you look in his, it's like, what do you see when you look in Joe Biden's eyes?
And it's like, dead people, because he was part of killing a lot of people, right?
I see dead people.
So I see dead people and a lot of these people, Clintons, right?
The Bush family, Bidens, or Obama's, you know, it goes on and on.
It goes on and on.
And then the people that were, you know, involved in their administrations, just tremendous amount of horrific, you know, control and so forth.
So now these people have incredible money and they use that money and funnel that money around to each other through varying means, like the CIA.
The CIA is involved in trafficking and money laundering and weapons trafficking on and on drug trafficking.
The CIA, right?
I've talked about it on my show for freaking five years, right?
There's other people, not just me, that talked about it, all right?
So they use that to fund their black projects.
So those of us that have been in the CIA, we see all this.
We see it.
You see it.
Right.
I've talked about it.
Anything been done about it?
Is the CIA still there?
Yeah.
So again, you're looking at powerful organizations with incredible amounts of control that are not going away overnight.
Right?
We're moving in that direction.
But a lot of you guys get frustrated and you whine and you pout and you cry and you insult, right?
Insult me.
It's like, what the frig?
You know, I'm out here like risking my life sharing this information every friggin day, multiple times a day.
And you want to come in and criticize me?
Come on.
See, this is the stupidity that we're dealing with, right?
You have to be more intelligent.
You have to be more critical thinking.
And you have to look at this stuff on a deeper level.
And if you're not going to do that, you're just on a surface level.
Well, you said, you said, you said.
Ah, wake the fuck up.
Right?
So we're going to continue to see good things happen.
Many of you aren't going to notice them.
All right.
Some of us will point them out to you and you still won't see it.
But that's the way this show runs right now.
It's not everything falls apart.
And then the golden age financial system comes out.
You have to take down that whole system.
The financial, the political, the judicial, the spy networks, all right, that don't serve us, that serve, you know, the elite bastards, right?
So you're going to continue to see the slow takedown.
Like James Comey, why is he still walking free?
Why is he still walking free?
It's bullshit.
We all know that he should have been gone long ago.
When he came out and he said, he pointed out Hillary Clinton did this, Hillary Clinton's emails.
They destroyed their phones or destroyed their computers, blah, But we're not going to do it.
We're not going to convict.
I was like, yeah, yeah.
I was working out.
I was like, yeah, oh, God, this is a dream.
This is a dream.
And then he goes, no, we're not going to convict.
And I was like, what the F are you?
You need to go bye-bye.
But he's still here.
He's still here.
So that kind of like stupid BS has to go away.
All right.
And I don't know if we have to rise up to do it because I'm looking at Mexico and I'm like, they're going to rise up.
Mexico's going to rise up and take down their leadership.
All right.
So a lot of this stuff we've been talking about for a long time.
A lot of people have, like I talked about, you know, you're a conspiracy theorist, blah, I'm like, no.
And we have an expert to come in and talk about that.
Theyo, good to see you again.
Nice to see you again and to discuss such an important subject.
Oh, God, yes.
Thank you.
It's about time that we kind of clear some important points, especially in regards to the film Eyes Wide Shut.
I once had the opportunity to interview one of the main actors in that movie.
And from what I gathered, it's always been the portrait of something real rather than instead simply a tale, a novel, a fantasy about rich people doing weird things.
And of course, in the last few weeks, we had more and more talk about the Epstein scandal.
And we had at that point people within the mainstream news finally admitting that there is something more to it and that maybe we should be a bit more, how you say, we should kind of say sorry to the so-called conspiracy theorists who in the past have discussed the possibility of the whole thing being real.
As you know, I published lately a book which is The Rise and Fall of a Frankie's Monster, which is based on the Sabbathian Frankish cult, which was behind Jeffrey Epstein.
So when I saw what was going on and I actually read this article by Sharon Waxman, which is the founder and CEO and editor-in-chief of the RAP, by the way, also a former journalist from the New York Times, so a mainstream journalist was one various awards, best-selling author.
I realized that it was about time to also write an article about people finally having this realization now that maybe behind Jeffrey Epstein, it wasn't only about, of course, it was also about money, it was also about power, it was also about a black male sting operation, honey traps of sorts that will led us to various intelligence agencies.
But as we said in the last show, when you kindly offer me the possibility of presenting my book, the main thing that people get very confused on, Michael, is that it wasn't Jeffrey Epstein working for the Mossad, working for the CA, working for is the other way around because the whole deep state in the US, as well as Israel, is controlled by the Sabbatean Frankists as well as the Jesuits.
We had the ulterior confirmation of this from a visit that happened just in the last few hours at the Vatican, which is quite incredible.
Pope Leo XIV, who is, as you know, connected to Chicago, guested Governor J.B. Prisker.
And J.B. Prisker comes from a family of Sabbatean Frankists from Ukraine.
So it's and when we see also how then Leo XIV, who we have discussed many times on your show and who from the very beginning I told you was probably worse than Pope Francis himself,
though he was crafted and molded by Pope Francis, I think that it's important that people realize this alliance has been going on for a long time between these heretical Jews as well as heretical Christians, because I don't think there is anybody in the right mind that can say that the Jesuits have been always, you know, really the representatives of Jesus.
Contrary to their name, Company of Jesus, they are actually, like I said in Volume 12, the very last to have that genuinity about Jesus and as our Lord and our Savior.
So I think that today we are in a very different world from yesterday because yesterday demonstrated what I already told you, that if Trump maintained himself this, you know, ostracizing the Epstein files, he will eventually lose control of his party.
And so suddenly he opened up.
But the problem is, will anything be revealed?
Well, that's a different thing.
That's a different thing.
Unfortunately, there is already various things that, let's say, are moving behind the scenes that make me think that probably there is going to be highly redacted material or maybe material that is going to be simply pointing on one political side rather than the other.
The Americans are not going to stand for all this.
So this is going to be a disservice to the American people because this whole matter was politicized in a way which shouldn't have, I mean, we should never support in any way, shape or form the pedophiles.
And that's why this book, as you know, is dedicated to the victims of Jeffrey Epstein.
I don't care, you know, about the White House and what they think.
If they are in the wrong, I condemn them.
But just think for a moment, Michael, who we had in the White House for the last few decades?
A bunch of perverts.
All of them.
Absolutely.
All of them.
So we start, okay, we want to serve with Bill Clinton.
Well, I mean, no comment.
A guy, aside from Monica Levinsky, we know that he was flying on the Rolita Express very frequently.
Then who we have?
George W. Bush, who apparently brought male prostitutes to the White House.
And who we have next, Obama, who had a guy called Sinclair in a limo when he was still a senator, doing him a blowjob.
I mean, I don't even want to say blowjob because now everybody's talking about, you know, this Baba, who is Baba, who's this and that.
But the problem is that it's not about one president.
It's about a system.
So today, we want to go deep into that system to understand a little bit better who are the protagonists.
And I think if we want to really dig deeper into this whole thing, first of all, we have to go to the very origins of the Epstein case, which as you know, are also not only, I mean, they are not only in what we already know, but in what has been covered up because it's part of the history, the legacy of America.
That starts from people like Samuel Branfman, that starts from people who are not even mentioned nowadays because they were already either dead on their way to dying by the time Epstein came into the scene.
So this kind of understanding brings us to, for example, when it comes down to the dark secrets of the United States, we have people who maybe presented themselves in a certain way.
And we always have accepted these people as being the guides of our society, the philanthropists, you know, all these people who maybe, you know, we perceive as being just, but in reality they are not.
One of these people who in reality had a very dark and sinister background, aside from his public one, was a guy who died in 1976 when Jeffrey Epstein was just starting to raise his profile by being recruited by Donald Barr.
And I'm talking about a guy called Levis Rosensteele, who was a, of course, a Jewish person, known for his philanthropist fundraiser and for Jewish causes.
He was the founder of Shanley Industries and an American liquor company, very active during, of course, the prohibition years.
But who is behind all that?
And who is he connected to?
Well, and how does he get all the way then to Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey Epstein?
Because these are things that need to be discussed today in order to have a more honest and clear vision of things.
And so today, I hope that we can clarify such matters.
So for me, today is about clearing and understanding that, for example, Levis Rosenstein created in the background of America's, let's say, the American dream of the 1950s, a blackmailing operation that was exactly like Epstein.
And who inherited this operation?
Somebody who then was very close to the future president of the United States, who I have talked about also in my latest book, somebody who took from that blackmailing legacy, which went and blackmailed even people like J. Edgar Hoover, the head of the FBI.
So people will say, but who is this connection that brings us all the way to Donald J. Trump?
Well, that connection is Roy Cohn.
The Roy Cohn, who was connected to Ronald Reagan's administration, but Roy Cohn was the mentor of Donald J. Trump, and he was the guy who actually inherited from the previously mentioned Revis Rosensteel the whole backbone of this blackmailing operation.
So I think that it's very important to understand that Jeffrey Epstein is not the only one.
He's probably not going to be the last one, but he was definitely not the first one to do all this.
And he inherited himself almost a position from the people before him who were doing these kind of things.
Now, people will say, but Cohn, I mean, here we're talking, you know, people fantasize now about an email where it says Trump is blowing Baba.
Okay?
But let me tell you, Roy Cohn died of AIDS and he was one of the most depraved people in Studio 54.
Go and check Google and the photos of Roy Cohn at Studio 54.
Guys, this is not about Trump.
This is about a whole system of power of people that present themselves in a certain way, but they are completely the contrary when they are in private.
I saw it myself, you know, people surrounding villas with secret service operators and stuff, just to protect, of course, the officials who were inside, who are maybe doing all kinds of stuff.
So the Ice White Shot is a reality, is a reality that Jeffrey Epstein was involved with.
And in my book, I have gone deep into this reality, as you know.
And I think it's important that people realize that this reality is not restricted to one person, but it's definitely part of a tradition of the elites.
If you think about it, the actual film is wide shut.
The outside scene when you have, for example, Tom Cruise getting to the villa, the castle, the place where they conduct the ritual.
Well, that place belonged to the Rothschild.
It used to be the family house of the Rothschild.
Roy Cohn inherited, you see how, I mean, he wasn't really the guy could be in a gay pride setup all his life.
If you see him by his photos, are you still astonished about somebody blowing somebody else here?
So, I mean, when I, my book inserted Roy Con, I inserted him also linked to the Benai Brit, linked to the mega group, linked to the system of power that we have.
So I think that this book was very much, for me, the wish was to make it come out in a moment of relevance.
And I think this is the best moment possible because everybody is with their eyes on this scandal and wants to know more.
And it's going to probably be disappointed by what the system is going to eventually serve them with.
Because no matter what, they're going to put the national security in front of it all because you can't see that.
You can't see this.
Do you really think they're going to show you Euro Barak raping Virginia Jufre?
No, they're never going to show you Ed Barakia.
There is going to be World War III and a bunch of nuclear weapons detonating before that will ever happen.
So it's like, so I think that instead of wasting your time in the, you know, in this, even in idealizing Trump, we should come to the awareness of reality.
And you know, me, I've always been a realist.
I know that at times this makes people uncomfortable because they like to be a little bit, you know, on the safe side.
And maybe they like to also idealize people and the possibility that we can defeat the new world order.
Listen, guys, you can't defeat what you have in your pocket.
You can't defeat what you have in your bank.
You can't defeat a system that is basically owns you in every way, shape, you know, in every way you are removed.
You have a system that in some way owns you.
You put your money in the bank, they own you.
You work for somebody, you take a salary, you are part of the institutions that, of course, service discrete United States of America.
Some way down the line, there is some kind of level of compromise.
And for me, it's important today to understand and explain to the people that the Sabbateanism and Frankism with their distinct tendency to practice heretical rituals to encourage the overstepping and inversion of established religious laws and rules.
Because in the end, it's about these people being able to preach outwards that they have some kind of belief.
No, either Christian, other Muslim, other Jews, they say, oh, we are great Christians.
Then, you know, maybe if you see them in their private life, they have this love, this they go with this and they do that, and blah, blah, blah.
It was very easy for a gentleman called Ataturk, who founded Modern Turkey, to simply put a bunch of Imams into a train that we know as the Orient Express and fill it up with prostitutes.
And from that moment onwards, you know, blackmail them for life.
So it's about also the black male system, which is part of it all and has been for a long time.
Now, Roikon was part of this Sabbatean Frankist vision of things, of these dark demonic powers, which in Judaism are known also as the Klippot, that are naturally ingrained in every man's constitution and they oppose each act of salvation.
And they are with, of course, they are selling all this as a way to bind people together.
So it's not only, you know, the ritual in itself, but the fact that you participate to something forbidden, something that is a little bit like when the skull and bones during their initiation ritual have, you know, these people who for a whole night have to confess all their most in you know, all their secrets to a bunch of strangers.
So it kind of creates really the bond that will never end that bond.
And so at times I noticed that in Satanism, those practices may be the sacrifice of a child, the rape of a minor, anything that is forbidden and perverse becomes also a matter of deep union between the parts.
Now, going back to Icewise Chat, this film was ended and edited after the death of Stanley Kubrick.
And apparently, there were parts that were omitted from the film.
There is a lot of discussion about the end of the film and why is that?
There is apparently 20 to 30 minutes that are missing from this film.
But, you know, when you edit, you can throw away things that maybe don't fit with the narrative.
But in this case, apparently, there were things that were deemed dangerous.
And one of the things that is often discussed is that the last scene was in reality Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman giving their child to the pedocal.
Oh, wow.
So just to give when you when you see this movie, you see obvious reference to sexual magic.
And sexual magic is a practice that, as I explained in my book, has the very roots in Sabbathean Frankism.
I mean, of course, there might have been perverts since ancient times doing all kinds of depraved things in the ancient Rome as well as in later situations.
But the fact that they codified the rituals in a way that they functioned for also an elite of people, well, that is a typical thing that was done by the Sabbathe.
I mean, You see, there is the Sabbateans and then there is the Frankist, but they have, you know, maybe some similarities and they, of course, have a lot in common because, in the end, the Frankists were simply the Sabbateans with added elements, especially the cult of the female divinity, possibly in the shape of a sacred maiden or a whore that is subject to collective practices of devotion and adoration.
Well, isn't that what Anton Levet did with his Church of Satan in his Black Masses?
It's exactly the same.
In fact, Anton Levey was Anton Revai and his family came from Thessaloniki and they were Sabbathans.
So the very roots of modern Satanism are in this cult, a cult of very powerful people.
The fact that, for example, in Frankism in particular, a tendency to reinforce military customs.
There was a lot of discipline, including the application of hierarchical structures.
And this is very important because, as you know, even in the mafia, there is a hierarchical structure, and often they borrow military, you know, military terms or military, you know, like the guy is a colonel or the guy is a general.
And so there is always been the use of a hierarchical structure.
And this, of course, also with the possibility that at the moment what we are seeing is going to develop in two directions.
So it's one direction in which they will actually go after maybe 10 to 12 people in those files and expose them to the legality of it all, which means they will eventually get sentenced.
But that is a possibility.
I personally have very little belief in Michael because we are talking people who are very powerful, people who can buy entire states if they want.
People who make some passes or sacrifices of their group, but as we know, they'll tell somebody to sacrifice himself so that you're doing it for the good of the whole community and that's why they do it.
Yeah, but remember that there is also so much material that has been made already public and people have a lot of expectance.
If you just go after some, you know, now, for example, in the last few days, there has been a lot of talk in regards to one of the characters that was probably important, but still, to tell you the truth, minor respect to other characters.
I'm talking here about Sammers, the guy from Harvard.
Now, you know that I have Larry Summers, I have dedicated a whole chapter to Harvard in my book.
I have explained that Jeffrey Epstein had an office in Harvard, went in and out of Harvard, where, you know, like you're wearing now, you know, like your hoodie, he had the thing with Rita and Harvard.
He went around with it.
He was very much present in Harvard.
So today we have the exposure finally of somebody like Larry Salmers.
Are Sammers also is resigning from OpenAI board because he was part of the Open AI board, which is a very important position because today OpenAI is a very important part of the new tech industries and developing the AI.
There is OpenAI and then you have maybe Elon Musk and you have maybe some other player.
But OpenAI is regarded as the main player in this business at the moment.
So the fact that he had to people, for example, also when it comes to Lex Wexner, Lex Wexen also is involved in the AI.
I mean, all these people are involved in the AI.
They're involved in robotics.
Himself, Jeffrey Epstein, was involved in financing what became the software for Sofia the Robot.
So people maybe should realize that it's not about simply some depraved individuals having an orgy.
There's a little bit more to it.
Yeah, you know, Epstein was money laundering for the lead as well, paying off people with the money that they would give him.
And then that they need that.
They always need somebody to money launder the dark money that comes in.
And he was expert at that.
The CIA does, you know, they have black ops and they need to have money laundered into that.
And, you know, so they do human trafficking.
I've seen this overseas.
They do human trafficking, weapons trafficking, drug trafficking.
And then they have someone like Jeffrey Epstein that will funnel that money in.
They'll create a facade business.
And in the facade business, they'll have someone collecting information.
I saw that all the time when I was in the CIA.
So Jeffrey Epstein was a facade business.
Well, Jeffrey Epstein, like I said, there was a facade business, but he was also not working for the CIA, like I explained.
There was maybe the CIA that was working for Jeffrey Epstein and the people behind him, which is also the case for the Mossad, which is also the case for Shimbet, which is also the case for MI6, MI5, or all the other agencies involved.
When it comes, for example, to the mega group, which I discussed the other time, one of the characters was Lauder, the Estee Lauder of Cosmetics name comes into, but the fact that there was also a banking lodge, banking and finance lodge of the Benai Brit.
I talk about this in my book.
And it's very important because it was connected to Khan and to Ronald Rauder.
Now, these are very important people here because apparently, like I said, Khan was running a similar operation to Jeffrey Epstein.
Then he dies of AIDS.
And then we have, though, right in the period, which is like 1996, we have also Lauder as a major financer of Israel's liquid party, which then starts to rise because, you know, at the time it was the labor Zionists that were more successful politically in Israel.
And so then it kind of turns around.
But the year that Roy Khan died was 1986, sorry.
And then 10 years later, we had that happening with the financing of the legal party.
It was at that point that we see also with Raycon that it's almost like he dies in 1986.
The moment Raycon dies, it's almost like Jeffrey Epstein picks up his blackmailing operation.
That is what I came to the conclusion of in my research.
I mean, it's like 85, 86, when Les Wexner gives him that building with cameras in Manhattan.
Apparently, instead, it was before they got to financing Jeffrey Epstein's operation.
Apparently, Raycon was conducting this operation in a very important hotel in New York that apparently was owned at one point also later on by Trump.
And in this hotel, they will have minors and people involved in a situation similar to the ice wide shut kind of scenario.
We know that there is.
So do you think that Trump was involved in some of that?
Okay, there is a lot of people that tend to defend Trump because they say Trump in a way has been servicing the system for, you know, like an informant almost.
So they tend to give Trump the benefit of the doubt by having him link to a informant kind of no figure.
But the problem is that over and over again we see that, you know, it goes a little bit above that informant kind of, how we can say, of level of participation, let's say.
So in between 85 and 87, Epstein becomes his relationship with his principal financer, which is Les Wexner, which was closely associated with Lauder, who, by the way, because together they were also found the mega group in 1991.
So there is a connection there that is very strong.
From my sources, Lex Wexner and Epstein were already working from 1985.
Some people claim 87, but I found some credible sources that he was already because already from that moment onwards, he makes him basically use the whole building that he will eventually give for $1, that is very symbolic sell to Jeffrey Epstein.
So we have the origin of the mega group, the mega group, which is with very powerful figures.
But let's not forget that these powerful figures, like we said, are from the Sabbathian Francis Milier.
Now, Benjamin Netanyahu, where does he come from?
Where is he originator from?
He's originating from Polish Sabbath and Frankism, the family.
So here is like, you know, you put together all these elements and you find that these people are all interconnected, that basically there was a connection that goes all the way to Simon Perez, to other people, like I said, Bronfman.
And so I think Edgar Branfman was probably one of the most important figures.
Then we have also the Anti-Defamation League director, Abby Foxman.
Now, let's not forget that the Anti-Defamation League was founded by the Benai Britt.
And in my book, I show that the Benaibrit is a Sabbathian Frankist creation, because in reality, Benaibrit, if interpreted as Rabbi Anterman interpreted, was meaning Shabbatize my illumination.
So more clear than that, they can't be.
Now, the major supporters of ADL included the Ronald Roeder, of course, which is still a powerful figure to this day.
And then you had many others like Max Fischer and so on.
But here we are talking about people, you know, it's always like people say, oh, Jeffrey Epstein, his connection with Israel.
He was working for the Mossad and I'm like laughing because Jeffrey Epstein was much more than that.
It was bigger than that.
Oh, yeah.
It was a world enterprise because you shouldn't restrict the power of the Sabbathian Frankist simply to one country.
When they have created a banking system that is worldwide, when 20%, like we said, of the Bank of China is owned by the Rothschild, when the Rothschild themselves have been like inspirational for the film Iswell Chat because the actual place was a villa of the Rothschild.
You know, people, you know, wonder sometimes about that.
But it's called Mentmore Towers.
Mentmore Towers has a long history because it was in the 1850s that the Rothschild families arrived in this village of Mentmore in Buckinghamshire and they established what became a very beautiful building because it is a very beautiful, I mean, you see it outside, you know, when Tom Cruise arrives there with the mask on and the thing.
And it was the place where Baron Meyer the Rothschild really developed an incredible situation because he actually started to buy all the land there in 1846 and it was then sold quite recently.
At one point it became the headquarters of the Marishi Foundation, which is like another kind of one of these gurus from the 1960s that developed his influence also.
So in England.
But Baron Rothschild, together with other figures of the Rothschild families, were, as I described in my book, doing what the Frankists wanted to do to expand themselves, marry into Christian aristocratic families and initially was Catholic and then it became members of the Church of England, especially influential for what then became the Balfour Declaration,
the very layout that then created the state of Israel.
So I think that somebody says, weren't the Rothschild and the Royal Court, they were, of course, married into the nobility, but not only in England, also in Austria before that.
Also, the process that Jacquel Frank started wasn't only the Rothschild, there was a whole group of bankers.
The more prominent one, the more known ones, and probably the ones that everybody has in mind whenever there is a conspiracy theory are the Rothschild.
But like you have read in my book, they're not the only ones.
They are one of the more influential, but they are not the only ones.
And they all help each other because that is the strength of this whole thing.
You see, the Jewish people have been persecuted and of course they have always had this thing of helping each other.
But at the same time, the Sabbathian Frankist that infiltrated Judaism and then manipulated from within has become like the virus, let's say, a bit like for the Christian world, the Jesuits.
The Jesuits were the virus initially that infiltrated all the reform movement.
And then in the end, see where we are now today, where basically most Christian groups of all sorts are controlled by the Vatican.
And even the King of England goes there.
So it's kind of like all coming together.
But like I said, the Eyeswatch Shot indication made by Stanley Kubrick by simply because you see this Mentmore Towers is in bad condition.
So they couldn't film within Mentmore Towers.
But because it symbolized for Kubrick the power of the Rothschild, he wanted that image in the collective consciousness to be projected, connected to this Eyeswatch.
So I think that is an important element that we can add to our story, together with the fact that nowadays, like I said, there is journalists like the one I mentioned earlier, Sharon Waxman, but also other ones who are more and more admitting that, you know, like the intrepid journalist from the Miami Herald, Julie K. Brown,
who was the first to expose Epstein crimes when he was first condemned, says that and confirmed in a phone call with Sharon Waxman that Epstein Eyeswatch was a reality and that it was a Eiswitch Kabble that Epstein was heading.
However, after these admissions have been made by the mainstream press, I don't think that we all have more of these admissions because it will get too close to then the very finances of all these newspapers where they work for.
And it will be at one point.
See, today, The Economist, which is now another thing, The Economist is a prestigious newspaper, a prestigious publication that we all take information from.
Well, The Economist now is being sold most of it from Linda Rochild, personal friend of Jeffrey Epstein and the former Prince Andrew, to John Elkin, who, as I showed here, is one of the rising names of Sabbatean Frankism.
And I showed him in my book.
And the interesting thing about the economist today is that they are making some very, very dark forecast for next year.
I don't know if you heard about it, but they are the forecast that they are basically saying the economist is predicting for 2026 war, pestilence, and financial collapse.
Wow.
And if the Sabbathian francists who own it are actually making that public, what do you think is the purpose for doing that?
Because, I mean, it seems like either they are telling us what is about to happen, what they're about to do to us in order to achieve the greater reset, which has always been their ultimate plan by 2030.
See, yesterday, one thing that really bothered me was to see while all this theatrics of politics was going on, there was, of course, the Saudi Arabian prince, head of Saudi Arabia, receiving the White House, and there was the state dinner.
In the state dinner, we saw once again Elon Musk.
Elon Musk has recently stated in both at the presentation of his robots and his yearly inventions, whatever that is, to his shareholders, he has said one very important thing.
Apart, I mean, some of it can be interpreted as maybe over the top, but amongst the various things that he's pushing Optimus, the robot, as the solution for all world problems.
Okay.
But at the same time, he said that will make most of the planet lose their jobs.
So working will be facultative.
And he announced the fact that we will all be on a universal income.
And I'm talking to you about the dinner that happened yesterday at the White House because one of the major finances in the world of AI, as I explained in my volume 10 of my confessions, is Saudi Arabia.
He's the prince that was received yesterday in the White House.
And I mean, Prince Mohammed bin Salman is not a guy that personally will have received in the White House after what happened on 9-11.
Now, it's true, like I explained, that there was 9-11 is partly an inside job as well as an outside job.
But there is a heavy responsibility from Saudi Arabia.
But there is also, if you think about it, and this is very, very particular because this is something that really, if you think about this connection, Jeffrey Epstein had a very particular relationship with the Saudi royal family and traveled to the kingdom in the last years of his life.
And he used a foreign passport with a fake name to enter Saudi Arabia.
And one thing that, and you know as a former CIA operative, one thing that you can detect in a spy is the use of passports.
They always change them all the time.
They claim they lose them because they don't want the stamps to be detected by the people in the next place they visit.
That is a classic.
You know, a normal person, if he goes through all these countries, will have 30 stamps, but then it will be a liability.
So he was losing his passport every two minutes.
But at the same time, The fact that there was this link with the Saudi royal family, and suddenly, while this whole thing is going on in Congress, Trump is inviting the head of the Saudi royal family.
You think that is a coincidence?
Good point.
Wow, how about that?
Wow.
It's something that makes you understand that there is something else going on here.
Yeah.
And it's pretty scary.
I think it's very suspicious and very scary.
But of course, amongst also the various things that were found amongst the item sees from Jeffrey Epstein's estates, especially in New York, there was a so-called, and I hear it, fake Saudi passport.
That's right.
So, so I mean, I mean, he's working with intelligence agencies, and I can tell you they can make passports easily for anyone.
Why Saudi, and plus, right, the residents in another place that was kind of interesting in our story, and that's Aus Austria because Austria is connected to also all this story.
So, it's like there is a connection there down the line with Austria, also.
Because at the time, and this is then makes much more sense for our viewers to understand, Ronald Lauder became, at that time, the US ambassador to Austria.
And that was the year in which, after Roy Kohn died, they passed on officially the sanction that the guy who will be in charge of this whole black man in Syria will be Jeffrey Epstein.
So, who do you think is doing Jeffrey Epstein's work now?
I think that you see today we are in a completely new era because today we are in the era of the internet or in the era of artificial intelligence, and so it becomes much more difficult that I mean, it is like hiding is not possible.
You know, today you can't simply lose a passport or a stamp changes your identity because today you have a thousand ways of tracing a guy, you know, with facial recognition, things, you know, vocal recognition.
People say, Oh, but I'm gonna change phone number, I'm gonna have a burner phone.
They will, after 20 seconds, recognize your voice and then at that point identify you because they have extremely sophisticated equipment that wasn't present before.
So, I think that today the work that Jeffrey Epstein was doing sounds a bit reminiscent of those espionage tales where you have those points of where you had,
for example, you know, rooms full of people intercepting phone calls, maybe with you know, recording on a it kind of sounds a little bit too, I think that today it might be more possible that you are working with very sophisticated hackers, with people within the tech world rather than people.
And Epstein knew though that we were going towards an AI reality because he himself was involved with it, like I explained in my book.
I mean, people like Peter Thiel, Peter Thiel and Palantir, what is he doing?
I mean, so it's like, I think that today it's a little bit of a different world, but the players, the new players of the game amongst the new players, would be definitely a guy like Peter Thiel.
That's why I absolutely distrust JD Vance as being a possible alternative to Trump.
Yeah, I don't see it either.
I don't see it.
I don't see it.
So I think that today we need to be very much more, you know, like in the past, you had these people that were running around the world thinking they own it.
Now these people have a system technologically that protects them from, you know, the mass and they are becoming more and more part of a techno-feudal empire.
And that means people who have extreme wealth today, they're simply investing in the cyber-Satan artificial intelligence setup.
Like I explained in my book, by the way, Peter Thiel comes from a family who has its roots in Frankfurt.
In fact, in my book on Jeffrey Epstein, I explain that the relationship of the Sabbathian Frankist and the Christian families like Thiel's families in Frankfurt is a relationship that goes back hundreds of years.
So it's, I think, a guy also that is always talking about the Antichrist as his pastime and he makes conferences about it and all that.
I mean, it's definitely a guy that doesn't inspire me confidence.
A guy who this year was one of the main guests at the Bilderberg Club that was taking place in Sweden is not somebody who inspires me a lot of now.
We are talking about a guy who's doing predictive policy, counter-terrorism analysis, works for the intelligence community here in the USA, USIC, works for the United States Department of Defense.
The software that he's creating is used for missions, a critical national security system.
You understand that even in your time in the CAA, what you were doing back then couldn't be done now in the same way because the technology has evolved.
No, completely different.
Absolutely.
I mean, we were going into, remember when you used to go, you didn't have like internet connections.
So you had to go into like these internet connections there.
They have rooms and you'd go on the computers and you buy time and stuff like that.
We are some of our case officers would go in there.
We give them protection, of course, and they go in and they would go into these rooms and they would be able to track the people that had been in there because they had technology to do that.
Of course, you know, now the satellite and all of the Wi-Fi and all that kind of stuff.
Still today, for example, I have a relative who has security, goes into the hotel where the boss has to stay and the digital footprints, like you said, are scanned.
They make sure that there is no way that their computers that they're going to be used on mobile phones will be hacked.
It's becoming a different way of approaching the whole spy business.
And so it has evolved in a way that today, I mean, will Jeffrey Epstein be able to have the same level of impunity?
I think probably that the islands that he was purchasing, because in the last years of his life, he also purchased an island next to Little St. James, a bigger one.
Bigger one, yeah.
The plan was to isolate those islands then from any kind of scrutiny with the heavy use of technology, because only in that kind of setup you can really isolate yourself from the phone cells, everything else, satellites.
You can shield everything and maybe at that point have a level of impunity like he used to have.
Palantir and the fact that he was linked to Palantir, the fact that Palantir is involved in governance surveillance for artificial intelligence and facial recognition tells you all there is to me you need to know there.
It's like, you know, so today we are now facing, I think for most of America, what has happened with the Jeffrey Epstein scandal has demonstrated that there is a compromise for anybody who even comes close to power and that Washington DC is in itself compromised to a level that,
yes, you can have great promises in your electoral campaigns.
You can promise the moon and back, but are they ever going to deliver to us?
Even this populist side of Trump is now showing instead the different side.
And I don't know if everybody's happy about it.
I mean, MAGA needs to become independent from Trump and needs to always prioritize America first.
Good point.
Good point.
So, you know, it's like we the people, it's not about these politicians that make things.
It's not about letting 600,000 Chinese young students and potential spies in our countries, because that means to be a traitor.
So when Majority Taylor Green said, Trump call me a traitor, let me explain what a traitor is.
And a lot of people now are saying, oh, Major E. Taylor Green should have never criticized the president yesterday.
I think that speech she gave was spot on.
They were very powerful people who didn't want this stuff known, even partially their names revealed.
Like I said earlier, I doubt that we might have investigations in these powerful people.
There might be some of them who might be exposed, but the level of power that is beyond Epstein is they're not going to be convicted.
Listen, when you see the people behind Epstein are the people who have financed every governor in every state of the United States of America, every single senator, everything.
Then at that point, you are like, these people, they were forced yesterday into voting.
And it was kind of like really funny to see that there was only this one loose guy Who voted no?
And I think that Luce guy who voted no, probably, I mean, maybe he had more currents than other people.
Maybe he knew that there was political suicide, though, because at that point, you know, he appeared everywhere and everywhere.
You know, that guy is never going to have a feature in politics anymore.
Yeah, he's, I can't think of his name right now from Louisiana.
He's pretty, he's pretty strong.
Yeah, yeah.
He'll probably survive.
But yeah, you know, Trump had said he wants all the Republicans to vote.
And there was one Democrat I saw that had voted nay as well.
And then eventually it went off.
So then no Democrats.
I guess somebody got to him and said, yeah, you need to change that vote.
But there's nothing going to happen.
I agree with you.
I mean, the guy we're talking is this Clay, what's his name?
Higgins.
That's it.
Yeah, from Louisiana.
Clay Higgins, I think.
That's it.
The thing is, you know, when you start, you start saying, okay, we can't expose because there is this and this other reason.
At the end of the day, who are these people in Congress representing?
In theory, the people of the United States of America.
We, citizens of the United States, we, the people, should be owning their asses, but we are not.
Yes.
So it's like these people are compromised.
And the level of compromise that has been shown now has been, I think, disappointing for all of us.
Yes.
The fact that we see a very big difference.
You know, when Vladimir Putin raised to fame in the Russian Federation, he took all the money, all the riches of the oligarchs, literally, and started to redistribute them because he saw that immediately after the fall of the Soviet Union, these people, in a way, had taken advantage of things.
So I think that it's important to realize that a leader needs to be just.
A leader needs to be just.
A leader needs to be somebody who also gives back to the people.
We still have three years.
Everything is possible.
Anything is possible.
What is your idea about it, Michael?
Yeah, you know, it's got to come from we, the people.
We can't depend on any of the politicians.
They just cover for each other.
They're all corrupt.
And so, yeah, we have to find someone that's going to be a true leader.
No one that's like, you know, bought and paid for by Peter Thiel.
So I don't see the problem is in this present situation in America where politics has such high cost.
We saw how much money Kamala Harr spent over a billion and a half dollars.
I mean, it was just incredible the amount of money that was spent in that campaign.
And of course, also Trump.
I mean, you need billions.
They pay for people to support them.
Like the Republicans, they'll get volunteers to go out and do politicking and voter registrations.
The Democrats pay people.
They own everything.
Regardless of the politics, Republicans or Democrats, you need the money.
So even if the idea might have been a great idea initially when Elon Musk said, I want to create an alternative party, but then he saw himself that it wasn't really feasible in this by, you know, in this two-party system, which is already rigged and paid for.
So it is very difficult.
But going back to, of course, the subject that we are discussing and what we are seeing with what has developed in recent times,
like we said, it's didn't really, it wasn't born out simply of recent things that maybe Epstein was this singular kind of guy who suddenly found a way to blackmail people and work for this so this.
No, we see that it is a system that inherited.
So it is a system that somebody else might inherit.
We said also that they might not have the same characteristic because technology has evolved.
Today, you can find through dating apps, social networks, more information about potential victims of forced sexual human trafficking that in the past you couldn't because they write the information directly on the internet, their photos.
So it's not like I don't see in the year 2025 somebody like Guillen Maxwell waiting in front of a school for where 13 year old to come out.
Because after two minutes, they will have their photo probably made by some mother on their phone.
They will be exposed in some way, maybe.
So that will be a little bit more difficult.
You understand?
It's like the concept of recruiting in the way that it was done back then.
I don't think it can be replicated today.
But there is other ways, unfortunately, especially through technology that make it possible.
Yeah, definitely.
There is large human trafficking operations that take place today, unfortunately.
I have a friend Lewis Hermes who's running for governor of California.
And he wants to do away the taxes, you know, all kinds of crazy stuff.
Go after child trafficking.
He's got great ideas.
He's been a broadcaster like myself.
He's traveled all over the U.S. doing events.
He's got, he's, you know, you look at him, he's got a great chance, but, you know, he's already being attacked by, like we're talking about, this electronic, you know, you know, thing that comes out that they come after you with.
And, you know, he's got other people that are want to support him, very high-level people.
I've heard like RFK Jr. wants to support him, but he's got to overcome some stuff.
And he's like just a guy like you and I that has great ideas that can make a change, but we have a massive system that's going to like, you know, try and destroy him.
He's got no dirt on him.
So they're going to, but they're not going to try to destroy him, trying to suppress him already.
They've been doing it.
How does somebody like that, you know, rise to the top?
That's what we're talking about right now.
And let's not forget that even people like RFK might have been compromised and blackmailed.
We know that recently there is this whole story of this Olivia Nootsi that came out that was somehow involved with the RFK and this infidelity saga.
We don't really know the level, you know, I mean, these people have information on everybody and they will always use it against you once you reach some level of power.
And if they don't do anything, they'll just lie, make it up and then push it out there like it's real and then they'll just keep on.
That is also true.
That is also a possibility.
But if you think about it, the people they eventually have always led into power are the ones who they can blackmail with the more ease because they are compromised.
I will never forget that image that circulated briefly during the pandemic of those two congressmen having sex in Congress, homosexual sex.
It was never mentioned after who they were.
Everything was forcefully removed from the internet and nothing to see here.
Pass on.
The system is so corrupt there that so the Serbian Frankists have always known that from the very start.
From the very start, they knew that sex could have been at the same time something that they could use at an occult level, but something they could use also at the political level.
And so they have always had that idea of manipulating people through the use of sex.
Now, they are not the only sect that has done that in the course of humankind.
There has been many others who have attracted the weak men with that kind of activity, including more recent Scientology, for example, and so on.
But I think that the way that the system has been built with the Sabbathian Frankist being involved in the banking system, then later on being involved at very high levels in science.
I mean, we are talking about also people who are very smart, the Einsteins of the situation.
It's always Stein, Stein.
It's always the Stein that goes in.
And that sign, that stone, it's always present.
So for me, I think today we have realized that, yes, like you said, there may be people who want to try to run for office, but trying is one thing.
Achieving then a success.
I personally was involved in politics briefly in Italy.
I saw the level of corruption.
I was so disgusted with it that it was simply an experiment I wanted to use to see it from inside, you know, like seeing how it is to run for office.
But once they arrive to certain positions, if they become like Cash Peter and Dan Bongino, who suddenly from one day to another, they abandon the whole Epstein thing and they become silent.
I mean, I don't, I mean, Dan Bongino was a guy who was doing shows every day, who was very public, very talkative.
He doesn't, he maybe gives an occasional one to four, maybe one interview a month, maybe.
We're talking about levels of silence, which are kind of disturbing if you think about it.
So we definitely have to maybe in the future go back on this topic, because I'm sure that once it's going to evolve in one direction or the other, the Epstein saga is not going to end up here.
simply with this vote in Congress, because I think that either they're going to redact the hell out of it, either they're going to start to stop certain things.
And let's also think about the fact that what they are making public in those so-called Epstein files that the Congress wants to has been voting for is not the entirety of the judiciary material that is available.
So it's always partial.
So the people will be more and more disappointed, disgusted, drawn to abandon politics.
And then at the same time, we are instead being more and more manipulated by a reality where the AI will probably lead us from the White House and Congress will become a simple tool of this artificial reality which is taking place.
That is unfortunately what's going to happen.
I mean, in 10 years from now, politics is not going to have the same identity.
Well, there's other ways that they can compromise and threaten.
I was talking to a doctor earlier today, and he said that he and another group, very powerful group, had basically convinced Trump that he didn't need to go forward with Operation Warp Speed.
And then he had a meeting with very high-level people, Microsoft, Bill Gates type, who came in and he had a vial and he said, this vial right here will kill 75% of the people of the earth.
And we have these in different locations around the earth.
You will do the vaccination or we will release it.
That's what he said.
So, I mean, there's many, many other ways to compromise.
We don't have to have people compromise sex positions with children or whatever.
They have, like you mentioned, a bioweapon potentially release that's coming next year.
Well, yes, I mean, that is what they are, you know, anticipating already on the economies.
And I mean, such a gloom and doom scenario for the future by a mainstream publication like Deconomies is not, I mean, a conspiracy theory publication with all the, you know, this is considered a serious publication.
Though today we don't consider as serious the mainstream news.
It's still part of the established new system.
I want to thank you for giving me this possibility today, as usual, To go to dig deep and show that really a lot of the truths that were accused of being conspiracy theories, people like me who for decades were trying to bring out these truths and have always been derided.
Maybe we were right all along, and now we will see the mainstream jumping on board and starting to admit that that is the case.
I think that at one point, though, once you admit that that is true, is because these people don't care anymore if you expose them,
because they have reached a level in which you cannot, you know, you can't change their plans or you can't even see what they're doing because the level of invisibility maybe has grown exponentially since Jeffrey Epstein's experience.
They also might have taken Jeffrey's experience in Little St. James in the Zoro Ranch or in New York as something that then they can draw some conclusions on how to operate in the future.
And like I said, technology will always be of help for these people.
And now in volume 11, you see, you have just shown the image of Thomas Crookes, which is now being debated because they say that he was also into the ferry.
He also had a whole digital imprint that wasn't taken seriously or ever made public by the FBI.
Let's not forget that his body was quickly eliminated and incinerated, and we don't have any trace of it.
The FBI needed to be exposed by Pambon the Dambonjin or Kash Patel, who is now in charge of it.
We thought about finally a Department of Justice who will be put upside down and all walking will be expelled and the deep state will be running away and hiding after that.
But I don't see that happening, unfortunately.
I see, unfortunately, these people still in charge, and it seems like you can maybe change the facade a little bit, a little bit.
It's very symbolic what has happened to the little St. James Temple of Jeffrey Epstein.
Because this image, this image here, now they have painted it in white.
And it's like, yeah, because they have made the island a tourist island.
So they have purified it almost with the painting into white, very symbolic, you know, of wanting to purify it, the whole thing.
But we remember also what was written in the Georgia Guidestones: that suddenly in the middle of the pandemic, they were blown up like their message was there, and it's a message that will stay in our minds.
So thank you for once again giving me the opportunity for this great chat with you.
And let's hope that people can really understand it's not about the politics anymore.
It's about awareness.
And once you have that awareness, try to make the best of it without following the rules and following the trends of the system that is pushing you one against the other, because there is no just people in this political establishment of sorts.
They might be a little bit better than the other for a number of reasons.
Of course, we, I mean, I voted for Trump.
Many other people who are following us today voted for Trump.
We dodged the bullet with Camal Ares.
But the problem is that anybody that arrives there, especially in their second mandate, the level of compromise is much higher.
And we have seen it with many other presidents also in their second mandate.
It's almost like in the second mandate, they have to make everybody happy, their friends in the upper insurance happy before they make happy the masses because they don't have any reasons to, you know, they're not going to present themselves for another election.
They don't need the support of the people.
They need the support of the establishment.
And that's what I've seen yesterday with that dinner in the White House, unfortunately.
God bless you all and God bless great Michael Jago that can continue his mission.
Take care.
Take care.
Thanks a lot.
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