The Leo Zagami Show - ILLUMINATI & EPSTEIN

Nov. 2, 2025 - The Leo Zagami Show

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	Okay, people, one, two, three, check, check.
	We are back.
	We are live right now.
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	And that's me, yeah.
	Colour Rivers on the Color River Show.
	Yeah, I got a bit leaner and more beautiful.
	You guys, girls, we are in Carnival Diet now.
	A full carnival diet.
	And we have Leo Zagami in a few moments talking about the rise and fall of a frank monster.
	Exposing Jeffrey Epstein and the most powerful Jewish tech in the world.
	This is going to be an amazing show.
	You're going to learn a lot with our friend Leo Zagami.
	So don't go away.
	Don't go away.
	And please to meet everyone that you're doing in the show, the Alex Show or the Leo Zagami Show.
	And the rise and fall of Jeffrey Epstein and his associate Giselin Max Polymo was in the skies.
	The Giselin's father was already a very renowned boss in the UK.
	And they've been talked about in every way possible in the last few years.
	And this is the first historically speaking, sociopolitically speaking, and religiously speaking about the ancestors to be the key players of this whole network and where do they come from and the Islamic religions and civilian movement of his students and Judaism.
	And with that, we have on the other side of the ocean our friend Leo Zagami.
	Thank you very much.
	Carlin, it's always a pleasure.
	It's always a pleasure.
	So thank you for having on.
	Today, of course, we are going to be discussing a new book.
	I hope that we can maybe in the future discuss it also with our friend Rafa Paul because I think that we will have some adding to the presentation.
	Rafa Palmacha, because he said his English was not up to the standards of Alex Jones show and Leo Zagami show.
	I said in Color River Show, we can even translate is no problem.
	We had before this.
	And remember, you know, at the beginning, everyone, even you, I mean, you're now like American, so you almost talk like an American.
	have an american wife soon we will have a still sound very much very much european during max and they tell me that I like your background with the Rio Torio.
	It reminds me of my good old days as a record producer.
	The record producer of the Vaticanus, the Vaticanus Maximus.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	So like we said, today we have a new book.
	This is a new book.
	You can find it on Amazon.com.
	And it is about a totally unique and different perspective of the Epsom case.
	In fact, this book is already number one in history of Judaism, Jewish history, espionage through accounts.
	It's really, I must say, it's being well received by both the academic world and also by journalists who have contacted me and told me this is a unique perspective, original, because we are not really analyzing, you know, I mean, what could I add to the thousands of articles or books that have already been published out there?
	But I can add, and this is a different, listen, listen, show me the cover again because I'm going to ask you something very important that you know about this cover.
	It's very important because this cover shows Frankenstein and Robinson and has nothing to do with blues in Masonic terms.
	According to Joseph Frank, according to the writer or writress, because she wrote, she wrote.
	Frank Shelley.
	Mary Shelley.
	Mary Shelley was married to another guy from England that was actually an anarchist.
	It's very interesting, the whole story.
	But the story behind the name, the coding, the encrypted word Frank Keinstein.
	It means something.
	It means something actually.
	Nobody knows this, that Frank Keinstein.
	What does Frankenstein mean?
	If you want, I can give you a brief description of what, of course, you can also find in my book.
	But this description is also thanks to the work of the late Rabiantelmann, who described the word Frank as standing for Jacob Frank, founder of the Frankist.
	Of course, the Ain, the N is an Anglican, let's say it's the abbreviation of the three-letter Hebrew word that means I in Hebrew.
	And the E resembles the first letter and N is for the last.
	And Stein is in German means stone.
	So it's really symbolic of the old seeing I and the connection with the Illuminati because Frank plus I plus stone and here we have the Sabbathian Frankist monster.
	The I on the stone, Frank Einstein.
	Yes, yes.
	It's like Palestine, it's like the fallace of the stone.
	Palestine, Palestine, yeah.
	Well, Epstein or many, you know, when you have either man or stein, ein, you know, these are, of course, words connected to the Jewish community because their surnames are connected inevitably to their alphabet and to the Kabbalistic interpretation.
	Because as you know, they are very much into Gematria, the notaricon, the interpretation of the letters and of the numbers.
	The Sabbatean Frankist Heresy, which we have discussed also with you in the past, starts really as an inspiration from the Lurianic Kabbalah from Isaac Luria, who was himself a great Kabbalist,
	who will end up not only spiriting the unfortunate heresy of Shabbata, but also later on, also the, let's say, the prevalent Yashkenazi, Asidic Orthodox Jews who are nowadays very much present.
	When you're showing Frankenstein, you're showing, of course, the monster, which we never really know the real name of, because we know the name Dr. Frankenstein.
	Way, Dr. Frankenstein, the creator of Frankenstein in Mary Shelley's novel, goes to the University of Ingolstadt, the University of the Illuminati.
	So there is a legal, some symbology around this whole thing.
	He's a doctor of the Illuminati.
	He's the Dr. Frankenstein.
	Let's make it clear.
	He's a doctor of the from Ingelstad in Gotha in the United States.
	Well, I mean, like you know, in my past book, in volume 12, I talk about all the connections Ignatio Loyola sent there the first Jesuits to fight the Reformation, and it became a very important center for the Jesuits and, of course, the university that saw the establishment of the Order of the Illuminati.
	So, the Order of the Illuminati are a little bit like the Frankenstein monster of Freemasonry.
	I mean, it came from this milieu of Freemasons.
	There was a secret society that went completely out of control that was created artificially in a way by adding bits and pieces by both Adam Bishop and Adolf Knig.
	And so, there is a symbology there, but there is also much more when it comes down to Frankenstein.
	Because, in fact, in my book, I focus very much on the connections that bring us from the Kabbalah to the connection of the golem.
	Because Frankenstein is inspired by this mythological creature from Jewish folklore, typically an automaton made of clay, brought to life by these magical formulas of the Kabbalah to serve and protect its creator, but also to defend the Jewish community.
	The most famous story is, of course, the Golem of Prague, created by Rabbi Judah Loev Ben-Bezabel, who was himself this very eminent Rabbi, very important rabbi.
	So, Mary Shelley's pilot.
	Come on, because you're going too very fast, and some people they can follow you because you are on the advanced level, on this hyper-megaturbal advanced level.
	And some people they're watching this, they're basic, they wanted to get into this because they just read some of your books.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So, if somebody new is watching this and starts like questioning the reality, they just woke up and they just receive like a bang or something.
	They are like, What are they talking about?
	We're talking about a golem, an automaton, like a robot, like something can be made like the IA.
	I'm not putting an image here that you can transfer on the screen.
	This is an image, a classic portrait of the creation of the golem, who, as you can see from this portrait, is created, is an illustration of the golem,
	which is, of course, with the letters of the Jewish alphabet and manifests through the magical will of the rabbi.
	So, the golem are really very important in our story because Jeffrey Epson is not only a pervert and a pedophilia maniac, a guy who, of course, set up a human trafficking ring of minors dedicated mostly for also then the blackmail of the people involved.
	Jeffrey Ebsen is also a mad scientist of source.
	And that side of Jeffrey Epstein is very important in my book because Jeffrey Epstein is the one behind the creation of Sophia the robot, which is a little bit like an automaton.
	You were talking about the Golem, in fact, but also we can talk about Frankenstein.
	And we should talk about then at that point, the fact that Jeffrey Epstein wanted to inseminate with this DNA half of the planet.
	And he wanted to do it also with these experiments that were conducted in the underground tunnels placed under his residence in New Mexico, as well as the one in the island,
	the Little St. James Island, which also sees on the top this temple, which I described is basically a, let's say, a temple that Epstein constructed based on a temple in Aleppo, which is not a temple, it's actually a bath house, but was a very popular meeting ground for the Sabbathian Frankist.
	So I think that it's very important this link with Frankenstein, because Frankenstein, both as the monster and as the doctor who goes and creates him, but then of course this monster gets out of control.
	This monster that in a way was Jeffrey Epstein, when he gets out of control, the system brings him down.
	And who is behind Jeffrey Epstein?
	Now, my book is the only book, and in fact, that's why it's having a great success and is number one in all these charts, because it's the only book in the world that talks about the background of the people who actually constructed out of thin air the Jeffrey Epstein phenomenon.
	Because Jeffrey Epstein wasn't himself the guy responsible for suddenly having a big building in the center of New York or a private island or this and that.
	There were people behind him who aided and abated this rise.
	And those people, as I explained, they were all part of the Sabbathian Frankish sect.
	And in fact, in the early 90s, in 1996.
	And the fire.
	We see the fire there.
	We see the fire during the movie.
	Is Prometheus some kind of movie?
	Also, Epstein and Giselin Maxwell, they bring about like Prometheus.
	Yes, because the name of Frankenstein, let's never forget that, you know, the original name is the modern Prometheus as well as Frankenstein.
	These are the two titles that Mary Shelley gave to this.
	And the husband of Mary Shelley was somebody who apparently was himself involved in the Illuminati and in secret society.
	So he had a kind of a vast knowledge of source.
	This novel came out, this got a novel in 1818, just a few years after the death of Jacob Frank.
	Of course, is also inspired by the Frankenstein Castle, which exists, which is a castle overlooking the city of Darmstadt in Germany, which was also an inspiration because in this castle, apparently there was a series of alchemical experiments that had been conducted.
	Now, Frankenstein is a German name consisting of two words.
	The Franks are Germanic tribe, and Stain, like we said, the stone.
	But that is the official meaning that today the historians want to give.
	When instead, thanks to Rabbi Antelman, thanks to other Jewish historians, we arrive to the fact that Frank instead is not only the Franks, meaning the original group of Germanic people living near the Rhine River, but also the Sabbatean Frankis.
	Let's not forget that the Ashkenazi were also very much present in the lived near the Rhine River.
	And let's also not forget that there is a lot of confusion about, like we said in the past, the Khazarian, the Ashkenazis, and an hypothetical plot.
	In my book, I showed that the Ashkenazis were actually the first ones to actually fight the Sabbathan heresy, and they did it with their most eminent rabbis.
	While instead, there is rabbis who I expose in my book, who still today the Jewish community somehow wants to protect.
	So here we have the inspiration for Mary Shelley, Mary Shelley, who of course then marries and becomes also very much close to Lord Byron, to John Polidori that you're showing, of course, Percy Shelley.
	We don't have to forget that he also had written a very important book which in some way is connected to all this because he is this romantic poet that we all talk about, but he had also written about the wandering Jew.
	The wandering Jew is another important theme that is touched by Shelley.
	And it is actually The Wandering Jew, a poem which apparently inspired also Mary Shelley, though it wasn't published until much later on.
	The Wandering Jew, let's not forget, is a very important, let's say, figure that somehow can be analyzed also through the lens of our interpretation,
	because in our analysis, we have Mary Shelley who puts together Frankestan, but then we have the husband who puts together something that has to do with a very important, because we have the wandering Jew and we have the wandering Jews, of course.
	What is the wandering Jew?
	The wandering Jew is, in the original legend, a mythical, immortal man who, in the original legend, Jesus, basically, on the way to the crucifixion, cursed, so he would walk the earth until the second coming.
	Then we have, of course, the fact that the wandering Jews become also, later on, another book, which instead talks about the fact that the Jews never really had a land of their own.
	And in my book, I explain how the Sabbatean Frankists really are very much entrenched with the culture, the basis of the very foundation of the land of Israel.
	So the Zionist element that Theodor Herzl formalizes with the creation of a movement, but Theodor Herzl himself talks about Shabbat Aysevi in one of his most important novels, which, by the way, also inspired the name of the city of Tel Aviv.
	So.
	So we have a lot of course to discuss but the Frankenstein novel is an allegory fueled with symbolism, fueled with symbolism that are both connected to the history of course of the Jews as well as the Illuminati.
	Let's not forget in my book I explain how the Sabbathian Frankis created their own branch of the Illuminati, the Asiatic Brethren.
	Let's not forget that Frankfurt became this very important city for the future banking cartel of the planet.
	And that is the city in which Jacob Frank arrived, received like some kind of hero or god, because he was recognized as the Messiah by his followers.
	Offenbach am Main in Germany is the place in which he then took base.
	But it is the city of Frankfurt, a very important city for families like the Rothschild, but many other families.
	In fact, I explain in my book very much in detail who are these families.
	And so we go really very deep here.
	People who are watching will have to read the 300 pages of this book to understand to the fullest what I'm saying.
	I'm only scratching the surface here, as you can imagine.
	But we are in front of a phenomenon which is very not very much discussed outside of the Jewish world.
	For 40 years actually, Jacob Frank led his followers, often changing his teachings and the purpose of the Messianic mission.
	For example, at the beginning, like I explained in my book, he didn't want his followers to marry anybody other than themselves.
	So he restricted the whole thing.
	Then he saw that the rabbinical authorities who had them arrested for 13 years, as well as the Inquisition, were on his case.
	And so at that point, he gives permission to marry outside their faith.
	And what do they do?
	They, of course, had converted to the Catholic faith.
	So they devise an idea which is very important, I think, in our story.
	And the idea is that he will, you know, when you convert the Catholic faith and you are a Jew and he got 20,000 Jews to convert to a Catholic faith, you will embrace the surname of your godfather.
	And in that way, you could infiltrate and take over the surnames of many important Catholic, noble, aristocratic, even royal families around Europe.
	And so this is really the demonstrosity of it that, of course, we have a bishop who creates the Illuminati.
	As you know, the Illuminati were short-lived with that name.
	But then after they took over, a series of other names.
	One of the people, though, who was involved with this whole thing was that, because also when it comes down to Jacob Frank and what happened, He rented the castle of the princes of Edenburg in Oppenbach.
	And at that point, the biggest Jewish areas are which claimed to be the reincarnation of Shabbat Azevi to Baruch Yaruso, which claimed to be himself also the incarnation of Shabbat Azevi.
	He had brought the Sabbatean heresy to a next level.
	The next level, of course, here you're showing also the Faust, a very important element.
	If we saw, if we also count in this story, who becomes a member of the Illuminati and all that.
	But when it comes to Jacob Frank, he had a relative, a relative who was Moses Dubruska.
	His mother was the first cousin of Jacob Frank.
	He founded a, well, he basically entered a Masonic lodge known as the Knights of St. John, the Evangelist for Asia in Europe, which is the Asiatic Brethren.
	And then this group will become very much inspirational, even for people like Shirley, even for people like Alistair Crowley, because Alice Crowley, for example, joins the Ordo Te Empiorientis, which itself in the foundation documents claims to be inspired by the Asiatic Brethren.
	But where these Asiatic Brethren were basically the first attempt to introduce a Jewish element within Freemasonry in places like Germany, which, as you are showing, were bastions of alchemy, but also of the Jesuits, of Catholicism as well as Protestantism, and didn't necessarily want to let the Jews inside the lodges of Freemasonry.
	So there was this for the first time with Moses Dubruska, this guy who changed his name many times.
	We don't really have an image of Moses Dobruska, but he was a mysterious character.
	He went by many names.
	One of his names was Junius Frey.
	As Junius Frey, he will eventually end up accused of espionage and executed by the guillotine in France during the revolution.
	And that happened also on behalf of the Illuminati.
	I want to ask you a question here, because 1931 we have a film, and this is related to your argument and narrative.
	And Bera Lugosi wears this, we were seeing there, he wears this amulet, this medallion.
	And the connection between Beralugosi and the Star of David stems from this medallion that he wore a stracula.
	And I can give you actually the direct relation to the Sabbathian Frankist if you want.
	That's why I'm asking you.
	Because does the Sabbathian Frankist, what do they do have to do with this Star of David?
	And also vampirism, because vampirism is quietly associated with some Judaism.
	Okay, first of all, the B'nai Brit, which in reality, if interpreted in the correct way, means Sabbathize my illumination, was this paramasonic or quasi-Masonic order, which the Jews eventually established after the Asiatic Brethren because they were rejected by many lodges.
	They were trying to seek acceptance within the lodges of Freemasonry and so on.
	So here in America, in New York, in the early 19th century, they gave birth to the Bneibrit, which is today's the biggest fraternal organization in Jewish history.
	And the Bneybrit started to open lodges in Hollywood.
	And in Hollywood, they took control of all the production houses.
	And so basically, in fact, as you know, I wrote a whole book about also Hollywood and the entertainment business, which is Bolium Edomicon Fashions.
	But these lodges opened by the Bneybrit became the ones that produced the movies like the one we saw with Bera Logosi.
	So obviously there is a connection there, a connection which is with the world's oldest and largest Jewish service organization founded in New York in 1843 by a number, I think 12 of the Jewish immigrants of German descent who actually hardly spoke English.
	They spoke permanently German.
	In fact, initially it was known as the Bundesbruder, the Brothers of the Covenant.
	And they did it because they wanted to help the Jews.
	But this organization in reality is a Sabbathian Frankist organization.
	Those Germans who went to New York were very much connected to Adam Besha, very much connected with the Illuminati, very much connected with the basis of German socialism and what then we have with Karl Marx.
	I mean, Karl Marx is a Jew.
	The Fabian Society.
	After all, but that is a bit later on, let's say, in our story.
	Karl Marx, though, is, you know, I mean, he's the father of the manifesto, of the Communist Manifesto.
	And in fact, in my story, I explain how he was himself a product of the Jewish Enlightenment, the Akshala, as they know it, which in turn is also a product of people who were profoundly influenced by Sabbath Isabel and Jacob Frank, like Moses S., like this character here, this gentleman here.
	So Karl Marx is basically a product of Sabbathian Frankism, but even the French Revolution in a way is a product of Sabbathian Frankism because the history of Jacobinism, but even the history of it could have never been the same without Moses Dubruska, example the philosophy social social the philosophy is the social philosophy they call it
	It's very important within the context of what happens later on.
	Not much has been discussed in regards to the, you know, I mean, Moses Dobruska was definitely a very secretive guy, but he was himself not only a relative of Jacob Frank Fluismother,
	he was also a relative of another very important guy who was involved in one of the biggest controversies regarding the Sabbathian Frankist.
	And this was Rabbi Eshbuts.
	And this rabbi, he was actually, I think, the niece, not the niece, I think, of this rabbi.
	And this rabbi is very important in our story.
	And I explain why in my book, because He was the one who wrote one of the most important texts for the Sabbathian Frankist, which was a book called The Babu Ayom El Ain.
	Now, this rabbi is still to this day very much respected because the controversy erupted against him with the accusation of being a Sabbathian Frankist.
	And because he was such an influential guy within the Jewish community, the traditional rabbinic leaders feared, of course, that exposing Ebeshut's work.
	Ebeshut, it's a guy who, let me see if I can find for you an image that we can maybe show to our viewers.
	Because, like I said, his book based on Jacob or on Sabbath became the most influential book to this day of the echo queue.
	Here we are.
	And Sabbath Zebi, just to make an ask here as a footnote here, was the one that in 1666, you know, declared himself as the only Messiah after Jesus or whatever.
	Okay, no, let me correct you here.
	Let me correct you.
	10 years earlier, 11, I think, or whatever, that he declared himself in Gaza with Nathan of Gaza, who was his mother.
	Yes, he declared himself to be the Messiah of the Jews, and he was followed at the time by more than half of the Jewish population in the world.
	But in 1666, he was forced to declare himself Muslim because the Sultan threatened him to chop his head off if he didn't convert.
	So the history, though, in my book, you have the revelations that are nowhere to be found, even in the works of Gershon Scholem, who was this eminent historian, one of the most known when it comes to those who have touched on the history of the Sabbathian Frankist,
	because I revealed the background of Mordega Zevi, the father of Shabbat Aizevi, who himself was connected and working in Smyrna for the Puritans of Oliver Cromwell.
	So this you can find here, because in the end you will see that in reality it was the origins of this evil like you're showing.
	Gershon Sholem is definitely one of the most powerful assets as an historian that we can base our work on.
	But there is also others, of course.
	But when it comes to Mordecai Zevi, Mordegai Zevi is a very important figure in this story because he was the one who will influence his son and he will actually give him the base, let's say the basic knowledge that they made him claim this Messiah position.
	And why?
	Because at the time there was a guy called who was very big within the within the Jewish, he was called the ambassador of the Jews.
	I think his name was Ben Israel, Benaset ben Israel.
	I think, let me see if I can find an image of him.
	He is a very important guy in a story.
	Why?
	Here we have his image.
	Let me show it to you.
	I put it here so you can maybe share it.
	I have it on the, here it is.
	See, this guy here became very important, Benasse ben Israel.
	Very important because he based his work on somebody else who now we're going to reveal is a Maranos.
	Maranos, of course, for those who don't know, we have the he wasn't a Marano.
	He was actually a very known and refused.
	What is a Marano?
	Because he comes from the golden age of Spanish literature and enlightenment.
	And then you have the Maranos, those converted to Judaism from Catholicism, right?
	Basically, these two, you have the Conversos and the Maranos.
	And there's a difference here that needs to be explained.
	What is the difference between the Conversos and the Maranos?
	The Maranos, they moved to Rafana Dal's house in Majorca, and the other ones to Marican in Italy, or what happened to them?
	No, no, it's not only that.
	It's actually the fact that the Maranos didn't convert genuinely.
	They actually converted to the Catholic faith but continued to practice the Jewish faith in secret, while instead the Conversos converted genuinely, meaning that they embraced fully Catholicism.
	Now, this guy who I've showed you, Menash ben Israel, who was this Jewish scholar, rabbi, Kabbalist, he opened the first Hebrew printing press named Emet Meret Stisma in the Netherlands, is a very important figure in a story because he will pick up the concept.
	I mean, here we are talking about the very basis of Zionism.
	Zionism, as we know it, will not have existed without Menasse ben Israel, who convinced Oliver Cromwell, who, as you know, to cover England for a brief period, Great Britain, and made it into a republic by chopping the head of the king.
	But this guy, Menasse ben Israel, was contacted by Cromwell's associates, and he himself was a very important figure in a story because he said he convinced Oliver Cromer to let the Jews back after a few hundred years.
	They had been banned since the, I think, the 14th century, 13th century, they had been banned from England.
	So there was a Maranos involved in all this, though, and that is where we're going here.
	So the Maranos involved in this story was the guy who actually influenced Ben Israel.
	And it was Isaac La Prière.
	Isaac La Prière, maybe I can find an image of him, was a Maranos.
	And Isaac Laprière was a guy who had written a book explaining that the Jews had to go back to Israel.
	And you see, this is very important because here we are, you know, people think that the Jews always wanted to be, you know, go back to their promised land.
	And that is a big, big lie.
	In reality, there was this Isaac Laprier who introduced Ben Israel, the other guy who Israel LaPriere basically introduced the guy Menasse Ben Israel through a book to the fact that the Jews had to be brought first back to England.
	And that happened with, of course, Oliver Cromwell.
	And then after bring them back to Israel.
	And the Puritans, they're very much into this whole thing.
	So the...
	That Israel, that was not a physical place because it was sometimes in Lithuania, sometimes in Poland, sometimes in Ukraine, sometimes in Raven in Italy.
	Let's say...
	Let's say that At the time, and you are of course stating it here, there was a lot of confusion on where Israel was supposed to be, but we know that when it comes down to people like, for example, then Nathan of Gaza and Shabbat Azevi, of course, he was in Gaza, he was in Palestine, and Jerusalem is in Palestine.
	So, I mean, Jerusalem is there, it's not in Madagascar.
	I know that's that's from the 20 20th century narrative, but the medieval times narrative is that the Bosphorus in Turkey, Anatolia was Jerusalem because it's there also.
	OK, and there is some documents from the Vatican, the Ravena.
	It was where the with the Virgin Mother Mary and Joseph had the Jesus in Ravena, Ravena, whatever you call it.
	OK, there was a lot of different.
	But when it comes down to, let's say, the current narrative, it goes back to this Menasseh Ben Israel, this Dutch based Jewish founder, which I talk about in my book, who wrote an astonishing.
	I mean, he basically had the printing house and he convinced Cromwell's secretary that it was so irrelevant for the Jews to go back to England, where they were banned for several centuries up until then.
	And at that point, Sadler published also a book, an astonishing book called The Rights of the Kingdom.
	Why this book is astonishing?
	Because it introduces British Israelism, meaning they believe that the English were like or the Scottish were the lost tribes of the lost tribe of Israel.
	So it is, of course, an artificial construction.
	But this, in a way, was of help.
	But then there was Menasseh Ben Israel who published a book called The Hope of Israel.
	And The Hope of Israel was very important because, like we said, brought to the discussion between Oliver Cromwell and Menasseh Ben Israel as ambassador of the Jews that led to the English going back to England.
	But only as a temporary passage to then go back to Israel.
	Now, who were the people who were in charge of Israel after the Ottoman Empire?
	The English.
	They were in charge of Palestine.
	So it was.
	And then the Balfour Declaration, where was it made?
	In England.
	The Rothschilds, the Sabbatian Frankists, who married and nobilitated themselves, were in England.
	So you see the British Israel World Federation and everything that goes along with it.
	So there is definitely a link.
	But this link starts, first of all, from Menasseh Ben Israel.
	But it goes back to Isaac LaPriere, who had written, who was this Jewish converse Marrano, who was very influential, who was really influential, also because he was connected to the Jesuits.
	So here we have, once again, also a connection with the Jesuits in the very early days of what will become Zionism.
	So Zionism later on becomes, in the 19th century, something that the English system will kind of, in a way, will influence the Jews, who then themselves created, of course, with Theodor Herzl, the Zionist movement.
	I have here a couple of, I think I showed you, maybe in the past, a couple of, a big encyclopedia of Zionism in two volumes.
	And eventually, see, here, these are two books, and they are, as you can see, the encyclopedia of Zionism in Israel.
	And the guy who is ascribed with being the most influential guy is, of course, the guy who created the movement himself, who was this gentleman, who was Theodor Herzl.
	Because rumor says, as you know, Leo, that Babylon is Babylon, that is the old Rome, is in Babylon, in London, that the English flag, or the British flag, is from the tribes of Jack, of Jacob, Isaac, that is Sax, the Saxons.
	We have a, this guy here, this guy here, is Theodor Herzl, and he is very important, because he is supposedly the founder of Zionism, of the priory of Zionism.
	In reality, my book explains, he wasn't even the inventor of the name Zionism, that was invented prior to him by another Jewish figure, who actually invented the name and then regretted it, because he went back to Orthodox Judaism.
	What happens is that, you see, when you create Zionism, the idea was to bring together, in the meantime, you have the Israels, of course, the Israel in Britain, the British Israelism, that convenes...
	Because it's a great country, it's a great country, and you know, you come from them too, because you're related to the family, the royal family.
	Sure, sure, sure, sure.
	So, you have great Britain, when Abraham told Jacob, you will have a great country, you will have a great Britain, a Britain of the Barats, of the Baal, or whatever you want to call it.
	But one thing, Colin, one thing is that, there was a little bit of an artificial construct here, that wasn't there in any, you know, wasn't then revealed by any DNA study.
	I mean, today, if we go back to the studies in DNA, we cannot prove there was ever a Jewish Kazarian, because we explained this in the past, the Kazarians, for example, embraced...
	No, no, no, I'm just explaining this, that in the 19th century, when British Israel became so popular in England, it was also to convince the English to give their support, so they could then, of course, later on, push the idea, which materialized with the Balfour Declaration, and later on, of course, with the Foundation of Israel, that they were somehow part of it.
	But, in reality, there is no DNA evidence that the Anglo-Israel, the British nation, the Lost Tribal...
	I mean, what you're showing now is a book that I actually have here, I'll show you.
	Watch.
	It's from the end of the 19th century.
	Watch here.
	This book here, that you just showed.
	But you can't deny, you can't deny...
	Watch, watch.
	...that many British and many Irish claim they are the original Irish, in concept.
	I mean, the Druids, they were like the agents and initiators of...
	No, but in fact, in this book here, in particular, it shows the similarities between Druidism and the Jewish faith, and the festivities that every year the Druids and the Jews have.
	But the thing is that, aside from anything else, this was also made in a way to kind of tame very much the anti-Semitic field of the past.
	Because England, I repeat, up until Oliver Cromwell, for a few centuries, they had kicked out the Jews out of the whole country.
	For a few centuries.
	I mean, they were not...
	It was not only Spain.
	Spain was the bad player.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Bad guy.
	Everyone says, Spain kicked out the Muslims and the Islam and the Jews and whatever.
	They're buddies.
	They're anti-Semitic, anti-Muslim, anti-whatever.
	So, now it happens that Germany kicked them out, Russia kicked them out, England kicked them out, Italy kicked them out, France kicked them out, the Netherlands or Holland, whatever it's called, I don't know, the low countries, they changed the fucking name, like the Basque country every fucking day.
	So, Holland, they kicked them out.
	Everyone kicked them out.
	Why did they kick them out?
	That's what I want to know.
	I mean, are they British in the end, Irish bad guys?
	Are they Semitic?
	No, I think that personally...
	Personally, I will ascribe to the fact that, of course, if the Jews had to come from somewhere, they came, first of all, from Egypt, because that's where Moses brought them out of the country.
	Now, of course, we can say that they were enslaved or they were not enslaved, but...
	Or is that a metaphor like...
	No, but I mean...
	Moses, and Ram, and Moses, to Moses...
	You know, Leo, I have to ask these questions.
	I have to be questioning all the narratives, because, I mean, we are...
	Yes, yes, I know, the book of the beginning, right?
	But nobody, in fact, when they say in Europe...
	Leo, I'm asking you a question.
	Judeo-Christian, they say the society, Western societies are Judeo-Christian.
	They are not Judeo-Christian, because nobody fucking paid attention to the Hebrew Bible.
	The Romans and the Greeks, they were pagan.
	The Druids, they were pagan.
	Nobody read the fucking Hebrew Bible until the 19th century.
	No, no, no, wait a second.
	No, no, wait a second.
	No, no, no.
	And then came Christ.
	No, no, no.
	I was saying Judeo-Christian and the Jews.
	No, Pauline, Pauline, Pauline, Christ.
	Bear with me a second.
	Say with me a second here.
	The Jews had the biggest community in Europe, in Rome, out of all cities.
	And still to this day, the Jewish community...
	But how many millions?
	How many millions?
	There are only like 6 million now, or 9 million.
	How many?
	No, but they had a big community in Paris.
	That was Christianity.
	No, no, but in fact, no, but the Jewish community in Rome, the Jewish ghetto, existed for 2,000 years.
	I mean, the fact that the Jews were...
	How many people, Leo?
	How many people?
	How many people?
	1,000, 2,000, 100,000?
	But in the end, you have to understand that the modern studies in DNA, that is what we have to base our research from.
	So does it exist that DNA for the Jews?
	Yes, in the Sephardic and Ashkenazi, and also in the Yemeni...
	I'm not denying the fact that they exist and they have some relation, because they are all incestual.
	I mean, the good thing about Christianity is they came to our tribe and they said...
	No, no, but regardless of the religion, you have to mingle with other people, because otherwise you're fucking ugly.
	And you understand Catholicism helped, but listen, Leo, Christianity helped that we came out of the tribe and we could meet blonde girls from Sweden and we could meet Italian girls and we could meet Ukrainian girls.
	Otherwise, we will marry our sister and our mother.
	Let's go back to the history of Christianity.
	The history of Christianity has two cities, Jerusalem and Rome.
	So we can't really go out of that.
	But where is Jerusalem?
	Where is Rome?
	Because Rome changed many times, places.
	No, no.
	Rome was in Alexandria.
	Rome was in Turkey.
	Rome was in Troy.
	Rome was in Avignon.
	Rome was in Abraham.
	Rome is Rome.
	Rome was in Muslim.
	Rome of the ancient Romans.
	I was born in Rome on the seven hills.
	So don't tell me what happened.
	Sorry to disagree, to agree.
	That Rome is very recent because RM is Abraham.
	RM is Abraham.
	Abraham is the father of Rome, Abraham.
	Okay, first of all.
	They didn't have vowels.
	Everyone reading Rome before the 13th century, they were reading consonants.
	So if you have A, you don't have A, you have B, R M. B, R M is the father of Rome.
	If you have RM, you had Romulus and Romus, right?
	I'm not trying to discredit that you're from Rome.
	First of all, where are the ruins of the original Rome with Saint Peter?
	There is no original Rome.
	Are they ruins there?
	The Trojan, the Trojan name.
	Okay, first of all, the original Rome didn't exist, Leo.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	Rome didn't exist until Mussolini.
	It's an invention of Leo and Mussolini.
	And Alex Jones.
	No, no.
	Okay, Colin.
	Defend the case.
	Okay, first of all, Rome is the real name of Rome was never revealed ever to anybody outside of the high priest of Rome for a simple reason.
	And that is because it was believed in the ancient times that whoever knew the protector of the city, and in this case, the real name of Rome will then define who was the God who will protect the city.
	So the name Rome was used externally.
	But in reality, the real name of Rome will be always known only to a limited few.
	Okay.
	And those limited few will protect the real name with their own lives and transmit it only orally.
	And for that reason, we don't really know the real name of Rome.
	So Rome says Rome, but the real name of Rome will be always secret because the Romans were very much believers that if anybody knew the name of Rome, they could evoke the God in charge of Rome.
	And they will at that point.
	Sorry, Leo, to interrupt.
	Do you acknowledge a fact?
	Because I want to bring this to this audience to question more things, even from the past.
	You acknowledge the fact that before there was only consonants until the Greeks supposedly came in the Middle Ages or something like that, they started reading this text that we don't have.
	We only have copies because the originals there disappeared.
	You know, we don't know where they are.
	They have RM.
	They have the Tarkinian war in Rome that we don't know Rome, but he didn't say Tarcinian.
	He said T-R-Q-N, that it could be the Franks and the Franks that were also an anagram.
	Rome is the anagram of Amor, which is love.
	Amor, but it's also the anagram of Amor, meaning also Mars, because it was Mars, the protector of war.
	Okay, so the God of war goes and protects, of course, the Romans who then conquer and establish the biggest empire that, of course, was at the basis of our Western civilization.
	So, when you say Judeo-Christian, you have to understand that the Jews and Rome were always connected.
	In fact, the symbol, going back to what you asked earlier about the Star of David, that was never really the symbol of the Jews, but was actually the symbol that Sabbatian Frankis gave for, you know, as a symbol.
	That's why I have it also here, no, in the sixth star.
	Now, the real symbol of Frank, the real symbols of the Jews is the menorah.
	And the menorah was shown and the one that that is the real symbol of Israel as you find it in ancient Rome, depicted there.
	And in fact, the depiction that the menorah of ancient Rome is the one that is the real symbol of not only of Judaism, but of Israel.
	So, Amen Ra, Amen Ra.
	I mean, the men is Amen Ra or today.
	Okay, but reverse of this life, yeah, but the menorah not Leo, because no, but I mean, we could go into the origins of every single Hebrew word, but that is not the pertinent to what we are discussing today.
	The menorah is a powerful symbol of Judaism, is the most prominently the official Ismail emblem of the state of Israel today, and it's deeply connected to the nation's history.
	But if we have to know, you know, where is the temple, you know, the first and the African and the African tribes cut the candles in doing okay.
	We have uh, I mean, you gotta start Leo.
	Can you hear me?
	I know you got shocked.
	The audience here, they are telling me, relax, bro, don't attack Leo.
	I'm saying, no, no, I'm doing this for the show because this is a show.
	Don't worry, even beyond no, no, no, it's a problem.
	I mean, we are discussing, we are bringing out in regards to the menorah.
	We also debate, no, of course, but that is part of the show, it's not a problem.
	Now, in the Talmud, there is there was a sign that the Shekinah rested among Israel.
	Now, the Shekinah is also a very important element in my book because the Shekinah is this presence of God, which becomes also the female.
	Don't even go there.
	I show you that I'll try to do this.
	No, because in Judaism, where is the Shekinah, Leo?
	Explain that because that's very what is Shekinah?
	The real truth, Leo, don't go around the bush.
	No, Shekinah and the devil have to do with it.
	Now, in regards to my book here, I write about Gile Maxwell in relation to the Shekinah, just as E. Frank, the daughter of Jacob Frank, was defined as the Shekinah.
	Shekinah is the dwelling or settling in a special sense of dwelling of the divine presence.
	And it is a very important element, also because it's a feminine word in Hebrew, but it's also featured in a masculine and androgynous way.
	And it is very important because the divine feminine principle in Judaism is the Shekinah, and the Shekinah is present also in the lodges of the OTO, for example, in the original OTO of Theodore Royce.
	But also the Sheikina, like I said, is connected to the female Messiah who Jacob Frank said was his daughter, Yves Frank.
	Now, we might disregard all this as rubbish, but in reality, Yves Frank became the first and only female Messiah.
	And aside from that, there is also another finger that is very relevant to our story.
	Gile Maxwell herself was thought to be the Shekinah by Epstein and his followers.
	Just recently, when she was moved to another prison, she was visited by a group of very powerful people in the chapel.
	Gile Maxwell was also received in a private audience with Jeffrey Epstein by the Polish Pope, future saint John Paul II.
	So this is really more, I think, interesting and pertinent to what we are discussing.
	We can, of course, go back and talk about, you know, the Torah, the Shekinah, the Temple, and many other things.
	We have to talk about the Shekinah and this penis head going back and forth to the wall, representing this.
	I mean, I didn't say this.
	You know who said this too?
	Brother Nathaniel.
	You know, Brother Nathaniel?
	He used to be Jewish and now he's a Christian priest.
	You should have a talk with Brother Nathaniel.
	It's going to be great.
	It's going to be great.
	I mean, great pleasure.
	If you can organize that, it will be.
	I'm going to hook you up with Brother Nathaniel.
	Absolutely.
	In any case, your book is great, like any other book.
	You learn a lot about your book.
	You learn about Frankenstein.
	We want people to buy this book.
	Show the book.
	Show the book.
	The rise and fall of Frankenstein.
	Frank.
	Yes, exposing Jeffrey Epson and the most powerful Jewish sect in the world.
	It's now number one Euralis in Jewish history, in history of Judaism, in espionage through accounts, and many other categories on Amazon.
	I think you will learn a lot from this book today.
	Of course, it was nice also to have this show confrontation with Colin, which is always enriching.
	I'll reveal my sources, man.
	Provocation.
	Provocation.
	I never lose a debate.
	You know, I always gain knowledge.
	It's like you, Leo, you never lose a debate.
	You know why you don't lose a debate?
	Because you always gain knowledge.
	In the end, you always gain knowledge.
	And we always know that you go easy on this one to the next book.
	But, you know, guys, the purpose of this show is to go really strong.
	I mean, we are Latin people.
	We are Latin people.
	We are, you know, with a lot of European spirit and energy, you know.
	And we have to go strong on this one.
	It's very straight.
	Are you a conversus?
	No, I'm a fucking Marano.
	I don't take showers like the English.
	You're a Marana.
	Because Marano in Spanish means pig, means dirty.
	That's why Marano, they were called these conversors because these conversors didn't.
	Hey, if Israel put some money on the table, I go.
	I mean, I go blind, you know, like, hey, guys, you have some money?
	You give me money.
	I promote you.
	There's no problem.
	I don't care if you're Jew, Christian, or pagan.
	I mean, I don't give a shit.
	No.
	When it comes to money, we know that the money, man.
	I mean, I'm fucking skinny.
	I'm fucking skinny like you, Leo.
	Look, Israel, oh, I do whatever the fuck you want.
	You want me to go to the whaling wall?
	I go to China.
	I go to the wall of China and do the Shekina with the Chinese.
	The Chinese, I go there, I do the Shekina.
	No fucking problem.
	But send me some fucking cash.
	Send us cash and buy the book.
	Buy the book.
	Buy, absolutely.
	Buy the book.
	Thank you so much for having me on.
	And God bless you.
	See you for the next show, Colin.
	All the best.
	Rafa Pal needs to learn English so we can have a chat together on this show.
	Take care.
	Thank you, Leo.
	Bye.
	All the time.
	It's a pleasure to meet the devil.
	Yeah?
	Nice to meet you guys.
	Well, nice to see you again.
	And we'll see you next week.
	We're going to have nice people.
	Nice people around you.
	I'm a carnivore, so send me me.
	Send me the pacing.
	Send me the big fucking insurance thing.
	Big kiss, everyone.
	Bye.
	I see you on the Cold River Show.
	And I was round when Jesus had his moment of doubt.
	Made damn sure that politicians washed his hands and sealed his fate.
	Pleased to meet you.
	Hope you guessed my name.
	Stuck around St. Petersburg.

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