Leo Zagami investigates the Illuminati's quest for immortality, alleging Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping discussed organ harvesting and 150-year lifespans at Tiananmen Square. He connects this to Freemasonry's Order of the Eastern Star, historical alchemists like Nicolas Flamel, and Russian cosmists influencing Putin, while noting billionaire funding for mind uploading that could create digital prisons. Citing Adam Bishop's rituals, Zagami contrasts these elite pursuits with spiritual salvation, warning that seeking physical eternity without God leads to damnation before promoting his upcoming books on the Islamic invasion of the West. [Automatically generated summary]
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Devil Says Hi00:02:10
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Organs and Alchemy00:15:02
Welcome to the Leo Zagami Show with Leo and Christy, live from Farmspins, California.
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Yes, we are here for a show about the Illuminati Eternal quest for immortality.
That's quite an interesting subject, Christy.
And we want to thank, first of all, those who really Are you believing in our show?
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Absolutely.
And today's show is partially based also on material you can find on Volume 9 of My Confessions, which is a book with seven steps to the secrets of the new world order from transhumanism.
And immortality to gnostic Jesus, UFOs, and insect witchcraft.
This book is a particularly recommended book you can get without getting all the others, and of course, it's a book that touches on this subject which has come to light, let's say, it's been discussed even by the mainstream media this week because during this victory parade in Tiananmen Square, these two gentlemen, Vladimir.
Putin and Xi Jinping, with Kim Jong un overlooking and listening to them, discuss the subject of immortality.
And there is actually those who say it wasn't even a hot, meek moment.
They deliberately wanted this whole thing to come to light, to be somehow discussed worldwide.
And so I will let you have my own opinion in a moment.
I will give you my opinion.
Why did you want to know why they did it?
Yeah, you want to know why they let me give you this great revelation, guys.
Why did they do it?
Okay, I didn't want to really go there, but I have to go there.
We know there's been a lot of talk about Donald J. Trump and his health, and of course, Donald J. Trump met on August 15th with Vladimir Putin.
A Vladimir Putin that was in extraordinary shape and is looking visibly much better than a A couple of years ago, almost suspiciously better than a couple of years ago, when he seemed to have started Parkinson's disease, he wasn't really in top shape.
And then here we go.
Now, yesterday, well, he actually announced it to the world.
And I think that it was a message directed directly to Donald J. Trump from Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping.
We know they don't follow the rules.
They've been harvesting organs for years, even in an illegal way.
We know that they don't have all the restrictions we have here in the Western world.
So the fact that at 70, because both Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping are turning 70 and now discussing immortality, well, this is actually making a lot of people very upset.
So let me show you something about it that I find rather interesting.
People rarely lived longer than 70 years.
But today, they say that at 70, you are still a child.
Human organs can be continuously transplanted.
The longer you live, the younger you become, and can even achieve immortality.
Well, first of all, Putin headed up the KGB.
So anyone who thinks that that was a hot mic, I mean, I shouldn't have described it that way.
He knew exactly what he was saying, and he knew it was going to be picked up on microphone.
For anyone who doesn't understand how the KGB operated for decades and decades and still does, they didn't get that.
But what did you make of that?
That was sending a message to everyone out there, was it not?
That was pretty incredible.
And I think, not surprisingly, both Putin and Xi recently turned 70, so suddenly they're fixated on their mortality.
And you literally have them conspiring to be dictators, not just for life, but for all eternity.
And this is pretty ghoulish, Laura, to have somebody who purports to be an Orthodox Christian like.
Putin saying he's going to harvest organs to fool God and live forever.
It gives you a little window into their world through the way they see power and the way they treat both the Chinese people and the Russian people literally as something to be farmed for their own immortality.
Well, China's long suspected to be harvesting organs from prisoners.
And what I think this brings up is why be in any rush to do any deal with China?
We know what China wants to do.
Let them cool their jets.
They want to play this game.
We should play it.
Yeah, but there's a lot of people that instead, when they're facing death, they would do anything.
Now, yesterday evening, Christy didn't really know what was the subject of today's show, but she suggested a movie.
And we ended up watching a movie that was actually based on this subject.
I was quite surprised, Christy, because I was putting this show together for the last few days, but I didn't really tell you what it was about.
And then suddenly you came with a movie, a movie that was spot on on this subject.
And it was about a.
I didn't even watch it, I think I fell asleep.
You fell asleep, but this movie was very interesting, let me tell you.
I want to show what I'm talking about here because it's about, in fact, organ harvesting and a community.
This Lily and Richard, the Amaranth is called, moved to a luxurious and cult like community where Lily became.
Becomes unsettled by the transformation she observes in her older husband and in her own physiology, leading her to wonder if there is something more sinister at play.
And in fact, in the end, there is something more sinister at play because organs are taken from people who are obviously desperate.
And then she actually becomes incredibly pregnant of this old folk who we see after the later replacement organ.
Is very much, you know, he actually starts to have a great sex life again, and she can't even cope with it anymore.
But there are compromises that are made because, of course, organ harvesting, organs that are taken from what, from who.
There is the possibility also to grow organs, of course, in laboratories these days.
But the interesting thing about this film was that it was called The Hammerant.
Why I'm saying that?
Because there is actually an order of the Hammerant in Freemasonry, an order of the Hammerant open to men and women.
Order of the Eastern Star.
So that's quite interesting.
It was established in 1873, you see, and it's operating here in the United States of America.
So I found it quite interesting, this reference.
However, today, as I told you, I'm discussing a subject which really obsesses mankind from antiquity.
Then, of course, we have films.
Films, you know.
I remember this movie in the 80s, it's called Death.
Becomes her.
Yes.
That was so funny.
That was a really funny movie.
And then you had Highlander, which also featured that song by Freddie Mercury and Queen, who wants to live forever.
And Freddie Mercury, as we know, later on died of AIDS.
And it was Who Wants to Live Forever?
And the actual subject of the movie is a guy who goes through the ages, but he sees everybody else dying every Time he can't really have a relationship with a woman because they inevitably will die, and he keeps on living.
That was Highlander.
There are many other movies, and there's also documentaries.
For example, recently there has been this very successful documentary that we have seen about that guy, Don't Die, the man who wants to live forever on Netflix.
About that guy who wants to extend his life, he's in this constant quest for physical immortality.
One thing must be said once you focus too much on physical immortality, you end up really losing your idea of the immortality of the soul, of the eternal life that Jesus has promised us.
I mean, it is, of course, physical immortality has been a recurring theme in alchemy, in mysticism, science, and philosophy across cultures since ancient times.
I published this article, which was very successful the other day on my website leozagami.com.
I showed how in Russia this is no novelty.
I mean, there has been already, right at the start of the 21st century, people, very known intellectual figures, like, for example, Nikolai Fyodorovich Fyodorov.
whom I described in volume nine as an advocate of radical life extension by scientific methods, human immortality, a resurrection of dead people even, who started the influential movement of Russian cosmism, which was a precursor to today's transhumanism.
And then you have his disciple Vladimir Soloyev, this other bearded guy.
These are people very influential for Vladimir Putin.
So it's not like Putin is.
When I myself used to mingle with the Russian elite, they were obsessed with immortality.
That's everything, everything was about immortality.
And that's why they were so obsessed with alchemy.
I remember when, in that day, we did this tea ceremony with this water from China that was brought from Lazar.
This water that basically two or three liters cost like $2,000 and that you find in a remote.
Region of China, and I must say, this water I drank this water and I felt it wasn't Zongai that Lazar, yes.
And I felt incredible for a couple of days.
I went around Europe because I had to be in the morning in Rome, then Sweden, then England.
I had to go all around the place, and I was like, I wasn't on drugs, but the water gave me this incredible energy.
And they say that drinking this water from this specific region of China.
Actually, it makes you immortal almost.
Then we have, of course.
There's also something in Russia as well, and it's Shanghai.
Yes, that they use also.
I mean, China, Russia, they have very much an old tradition for these kinds of things.
Like, for example, in China, you have ancient alchemy, Taoist alchemists, Persian immortality through two ways.
There was the Baidan, which is the external alchemy, then you have the Neidan, which is the internal alchemy.
Now, Biden focused on creating elixir, often using minerals like cinnabar, mercury sulfide, and that, or gold.
Now, when you do that kind of thing, it's very risky.
In fact, there was an emperor, Emperor Xixing Wan, who lived before Christ, who sought the elixir of life, but then he died of mercury poisoning.
And I have here a book, this great book of nature, whose author died.
In a Masonic lodge in France, doing an alchemical experiment to become immortal.
So, I mean, it's like in the Lodge of the Philalets, which was the most prestigious place of Illuminati in France in the time just preceding the French Revolution.
Now, when it comes to Western alchemy, there are two figures that were focused on immortality through the Philosopher's Stone, through The possibility of maybe transmuting base metals into gold and granting eternal life via a mythological elixir of life.
Those two alchemists were Nicolas Flamel and Paracelsus.
Then you had also an Islamic alchemist, you know, the word gibberish.
Gibberish comes from him, Jabir ibn Ayyan.
I talk about him in volume 10 of my Confessions, and he lived between the year 17.
721 to 815, so he didn't really live even that long.
The Spiritual Balance00:15:20
Well, he lived quite long for the time, though.
He explored immortality through a balance of spiritual and material pursuit.
Jabil's work was not a job, I mean, of course, they say jabberish when you're saying something that you can't really understand because it was very complex.
And they say that in reality, his quest for immortality was actually symbolic for the Enlightenment.
Let's not forget one thing.
In Freemasonry, for example, you have to believe in the immortality of the soul.
That's a primary request for a lot of Masonic obediences, including the United Grand Lodge of England, but also people like Camp Cagliostro.
However, the fact that you want to believe in the immortality of the soul doesn't necessarily mean that you believe in the physical life extension, spiritual transcendence.
Doesn't necessarily mean the obsession, you see, the obsession that one might have.
Today, there are people, especially in the elite, that are completely obsessed with this, the billionaires, like the ones from Silicon Valley.
And I remember there's an article that came out, and this is a very interesting article because the photo should remind you of something.
It's a place we went through as this place.
Is actually the desert highway between Las Vegas and Palm Springs, and it goes through Death Valley, one of my favorite spots.
So I don't know why they chose that, but it says modern magnets such as Jeff Bezos and Peter Thiel should heed the warnings of the ancients in their quest for immortality because it doesn't always end well.
You don't want to cross God, that's for sure.
That's for sure.
Please read this, Christina.
Internet billionaires, Jeff Bezos and Peter Thiel among them, is to funnel vast sums into research on how to prolong human life, perhaps even how to extend it indefinitely.
The reasons why the prospect of immortality would appeal to those enjoying such enormous wealth are clear.
Even if they lived a thousand lifetimes, they still wouldn't be able to spend a fraction of their billions.
But if no amount of money is ever enough, what amount of time will ever be sufficient either to accumulate, to enjoy it?
Acquiring some kind of immortality might indeed be the only solution.
And how they want to acquire this immortality.
Now, there are various ways of acquiring it.
You had, of course, the obvious way, the one that Putin was discussing with Xi Jinping organ replacement.
That's quite obvious.
It's quite, you know, I mean, you can do it, it's possible, but okay.
You will go maybe and reach, like Putin himself said, 150 years of age.
Now, Putin confirmed this.
He didn't hide himself when they asked him about this discussion he had with Xi Jinping.
He actually confirmed it.
Do you believe that people can live 150 years or longer?
Yes, when we walked the parade, President Xi.
I mentioned the subject, and I remember that Mr. Berlusconi used to talk about this a lot.
And if you remember, I cited this in my book because something really suspicious happened before the death of Berlusconi.
And I said, Did Berlusconi actually do something to extend his life, maybe by uploading his brain?
Yeah, or do something because he was very much into this.
And I mean, Putin is confirming that.
So, modern medicine has various means.
Including surgical means, organ replacements, and all of that creates hope that active living will go on for much longer than today, that we will see people live longer.
So we might see people live longer.
Putin confirms what they have been discussing.
And it's pretty shocking.
The connection between wealth and immortality is often encountered even in ancient Greek and Roman writers.
So it must be an obsession of the rich.
The fact that, like somebody said, there was an Italian Freemason who himself was actually an aristocrat.
He was of royal blood.
He was known as Toto.
He was a comedian in normal life.
He had been adopted.
I think he'd grown up in a way that he didn't really have a direct relationship with his noble ancestry and with his royal family.
He then became the most famous Italian comedian.
He was from Naples.
He was known as Toto.
He became also a very influential Freemason.
He actually reached the 30th degree of the ancient Acceptus Scottish Eight and he could have reached the 33, but he wanted to simply be.
Remembered as a 30th degree for a number of reasons I will not now discuss.
Toto, he created a poetry piece called La Livella.
In La Livella, it's in Napoleon, it's a piece of Napoleon poetry very well said, very well put together, in which he says, No matter if you are rich, poor, you are a noble, you are a guy who is cleaning the streets, or somebody else, we will all end up dead.
And La Livella is the leveler, and this leveler is basically death.
This leveler of everybody, we will all have to die in the end.
So, the fact that these people are obsessed with immortality is quite incredible, but it always happened in the history of mankind.
Like I said, there was, of course, in ancient China, They sought the elixir of life.
There were ancient texts like the Bao Tse.
There was an author, Ji Hong, who lived after Christ.
He was born in 283, died actually also quite young because he died in 343.
That's not an incredible long life.
But he wrote extensively about immortality elixirs.
And what happened is that this guy.
Ji Yong is also considered one of the fathers of Chinese medicine.
And Chinese medicine, we know, is still very important for many people because it's a traditional form of medicine and agopuncture is part of it.
So, I mean, he's considered one of the founders.
Here, actually, his date of birth is quite 343.
364.
So they extended it there.
Some sources give a different date.
But in any case, he was very much fixated on immortality.
In fact, Debopsy, Embracing Simplicity, is a book in which he talks about a number of remedies, some of them very interesting remedies that are used to extend life.
So the Chinese are definitely always being obsessed.
So Xi Jinping being obsessed is not, you know, it's obvious.
Both Russians and Chinese seem to have this thing that accumulates them.
We had people in.
The Western world in alchemy, like Nicolas Flamel, who claimed to have achieved some form of immortality.
In fact, we don't really know the date of Nicolas Flamel's death.
Then we have Paracelsus, who was an alchemist.
So there is actually within the alchemist, alchemist that wanted to achieve this.
He was a 14th century French scribe, a manuscript seller.
Who became the subject of legends because they claimed that he created the Philosopher's Stone and achieved immortality?
His legend was then popularized and inspired his portrayal in the Harry Potter series, you know, so he's also present as the maker of the Philosopher's Stone.
Nicolas Flamel, who now is even cited in pop culture with Harry Potter, is somebody who.
According to texts, he almost 200 years after his death, apparently he was still discussed as being alive, but the same can be said also of Count de Saint Germain, for example, much later.
And he also learned these alchemical secrets apparently from a Jewish converso on the road to Santiago de Compostela, which is also.
A very considered a very holy place in which you go for pilgrimage.
And so Nicolas Flamel is definitely one of those figures of the Western world that was in search of.
And then you have, of course, Paracelsus, which is a very known alchemist, and he also apparently was.
But there is also the perils of this quest for immortality.
And of course, Immortality was discussed since ancient times.
It was discussed in the Epic of Gilgamesh.
It was discussed in ancient Mesopotamia, in ancient Sumerian.
It is an ancient Sumerian tale.
Of course, some people might say some of these tales are pure fiction, some of them can have more real reality.
They are more real than others, realistic.
You have also the tale in medieval Europe of the wandering Jew.
The wandering Jew is the semitical, immortal man whose legend began to spread in Europe in the 13th century, who apparently taunted Jesus on the way to the crucifixion and then he was cursed to walk in the earth until Jesus comes back.
And somehow.
So, this inspired also a little bit Mary Shelley when she was doing Frankenstein.
I think that there is definitely a lot of legends, but this quest for immortality I don't think will ever go away.
I mean, the secret of everlasting life was actually put together in a book that came out in the second century after Christ and was translated.
And this book is called the Kandong Ki, which basically is an ancient work of transformation and immortality, which echoes the wisdom and poetry of both the Tao Te Ching and the I Ching.
And so there is, in all traditions, always been this constant will to find somehow immortality.
But in reality, then, who wants to really live forever?
Because you know, living forever could also become some kind of curse.
However, one thing that we should be reminded of is what Eliphaz Levi said he said, Only the other two's heart is passionless, will dispose of the love and hate of those who make instruments of his science.
And in regards to Manly P.O.L., which is a figure that many Masons always talk about because of his book, The Sacred Teachings of All Ages, and all that, he said, The elixir of life.
Is truth itself the reservoir of all things?
The wise man's stone is science that can work all wonders and solve all riddles of the mortal sphere.
The universal medicine is wisdom, the only cure of ignorance, which is the universal disease.
So, immortality can also become something different.
What do you think, Christy, about this obsession with immortality?
Because nowadays there is also.
The growing possibility that in the stage we are now, we will see some really big transformations in our society thanks to technology, robotics, nanotechnology inserted in, you know.
I've discussed all this in Confessions of an Illuminati Volume 9, which I highly recommend because the quest for immortality now seems to accelerate and might arrive to some kind of.
Of result in the near future, mind upload and all that.
What do you think?
I think that, well, I mean, you know, Jeffrey Epstein was obsessed with this as well.
Absolutely.
So, you know, it's just like, I don't know, what do I think?
I think that, you know, you have your life and that you should make the most of it and make the most of every day, and your body is your temple and you should take care of yourself.
Losing Your Self00:03:48
But there's nothing to stop you from needing God.
I mean, God is in charge, and so everybody knows that.
They should know that.
And you can't beat death.
There's nobody that's been able to do it.
And once you think you have, God will come in and take you out just like that.
So, you know, there is one boss, and that's God.
So there is no quest for immortality because you're just going to lose.
And it doesn't matter how much money you have.
And by the way, that money can't get you into heaven.
So, you know, those pearly gates are closed for people who are money hungry with big egos.
And, you know, God can shine his light on you one moment and take that light away in a moment in the next, you know?
So you can have something and you can have this great blessing from God and the God will see, you know, how you react to that blessing.
And if you react wrong and you take in the wrong thing, snatched away just like that.
And who wants to play that game?
That's what I say.
In the process of achieving some kind of immortality, you are losing your own self.
You're losing your own connection with God, your spirituality.
Something else is going to take over.
Human society seems to progress in a state referred to as technological, but this state is more and more materialistic.
And so we imprison our immortality for promises of material immortality.
What is happening now with mind uploading, which is still regarded as.
You know, the stuff of science fiction or speculation, but it's going to become a reality inevitably, especially because of what is happening with the development of artificial intelligence.
So, you have the mind uploading as a process of whole brain simulation in which a brain scan is used to completely emulate the mental state of the individual in a digital computer.
Now, what they want to do in this era, the elite, is to upload.
All of our thoughts, like they're already doing with our social networks, with Facebook, or all the rest, upload all that, and then it becomes their own property.
It's like we are giving our own experiences to them, so they create a reality, a virtual cage, a virtual prison, because this promise of immortality is really not.
I mean, it is simply them taking over our own accomplishments, our own experiences, our own life.
And of course, the transhumanists, the futurists, they live with the idea of life extension, like I explain in this book for transhumanism.
They live, and this is going to happen, you see, in the near future.
We will have, of course, those people who have the available organ transplant at hand.
247, but you will have also those who start putting pieces of external machinery in our body.
Like one of the movies we watch.
Yes, and many movies that I mean, you have also the process of recursive singularity that arrives to that point.
The meaning that we will be resembling more and more the bionic man of the 1970s.
Oh, Steve Austin, the six million dollar man.
Bionic Humans Ahead00:05:39
And that was.
Or the six million dollar woman.
Or the bionic woman.
Or the bionic woman.
But, but we have definitely that tendency more and more.
And somebody's asking me what volume 12 discusses, it's the final book of my confessions because this closes the confession series and it's the book that brings you on top of the pyramid where the old seeing eye tells you the story of the Jesuit order, the most influential religious order of all times, and there.
Responsibility behind the rise of this New World Order, the way we are living and everything that we are experiencing, not only in the religious field with the creation of one world religion, with the progressive attitude of the Catholic Church, but also in science, in politics.
So, Volume 12 of My Confessions is a book that you should get Easterly Seeker Societies and the Politics of the Jesuit New World Order and the Luciferian Court.
And now, just before I go into a deeper still into this subject, let me remind you of this book, which of course is a great success at the moment Zagami Family Cookbook.
It's a book about all the recipes that day after day me and Christy experience in our small kitchen and we transform it.
And Christy, thanks to Christy, really, we have all these recipes codified from Italian cuisine that really makes even the most humble kitchen into a fantastic five star Italian restaurant.
Fresh pasta, fresh pizza.
Today we have a fantastic pizza.
Oops, sorry.
Today we have a fantastic.
Christy, what are you doing with your phone?
That's my word.
It was for the.
Okay, for remembering this one.
So that is really something I highly suggest.
It's with colored photos.
There is also vegetarian recipes because Italian cuisine is full of vegetarian recipes.
So, definitely, you have, for example, lemon angel hair pasta.
Fantastic.
Watch this.
This is a fantastic recipe.
If you want to stay in the.
Somebody said donkey pasta.
No, I don't think there is any donkey pasta.
It's pretty good pasta.
Okay.
So, going back into the subject of immortality, the fact that we are also in front of the possibility of reaching technological singularity, which is a subject which I've discussed in Volume 7.
I've also touched on Volume 6.66, but Volume 7, I also discussed very much.
Ray Kurzweil has been one of the main advocates of.
Singularity, the moment in which we really reach that union between technology, between us as a human being, and probably a move towards a new type of human being.
Because you see, we are definitely with gene editing, with everything that is happening technologically.
We are about to transform the Homo sapiens into something different.
And I'm not saying that that is going to be necessarily a good thing because, I mean, it could be maybe for some people a good thing, but like I say in Volume 9, futurist and leading transhumanist Greg Kurzweil, who also had an important position for many years as a Google chief engineer, is now, of course, a little bit older.
He received the National Medal of Technology in 1999, he's in the National Inventor's Hall of Fame.
He created this incredible keyboard back in the days, which everybody, like me who was a record producer, aimed to have, but it was way too expensive and we could only see it in the big studios.
Coursevale is somebody who explained very clearly that we are reaching that moment in which we are about to merge with the machine.
And he did it, of course, with a public conference, but also with a book, a book that came out in 2005 called The Singularity is Near.
And I cited this book in Volume 9 of my Confessions.
It's definitely.
A very interesting book.
And I talk about Kurzweil's approach to futurism and, of course, the quest for immortality in volume nine of my confessions.
In fact, I discussed in detail how the Davos Illuminati, Kurzweil, and all these people somehow are still following that ancient quest.
Ancient Illuminati Quests00:15:19
We mentioned from Mesopotamia, from the Gilgamesh, the Sumerian king at the heart of humanity's earliest epic poem, who went in search of immortality.
And many others, we saw Chinese rulers, we saw alchemists.
But in the end, nobles will drink gold in a bit to extend their lifespan, and Count Alessandro di Cagliostro will make them go for this 40 day.
Fasting and this whole alchemical process in which they will eventually be rejuvenated.
I mean, there is actually a Masonic tradition.
I mean, if you officially go to Freemason, he would say, I know we only do the immortality of the soul.
It's just theoretical.
But back in the days, this Count Caius, Giuseppe Balsamo, he created this Egyptian rite.
And for those people who went through The three degrees of Egyptian rites and became masters of Egyptian rites and were deemed suitable, Cagliostro will reveal the secrets of the Arcana Canorum.
Now, the secrets of the Arcana Canorum that Cagliostro learned in Naples apparently were brought to Naples by the magicians of Cleopatra when Cleopatra went to marry Julius Caesar in Rome.
A lot going on in Naples.
A lot going on with immortality in Naples.
In Naples, yes.
I know, I know, I know.
Maybe because they live next door to a volcano who could be exploding.
But the Arcana Arcanorum, which is a kind of, it's like a construct, a Masonic construct over an alchemical teaching, has always been deemed as one of the most mysterious teachings of Freemasonry.
Isaac Crowley talked about it very much.
And so the Arcan Arcanorum is instead, if for the very few people who actually have the possibility to accede to these teachings,
a very complex process which includes also some kind of sexual magical practice, which in the end will bring this person to completely change within 40 days his body into and mutate into a rejuvenated body.
We don't know if it works or if it does, and they claim it does.
Definitely, when you do, for example, long periods of fasting, they tend to be periods in which you are regenerating yourself.
And that's why fasting is kind of like indicated by many oriental practices as very important.
But also, in fact, I mean, fasting is also very important for Christian practitioners, even in the Catholic faith, there is some who practice fasting.
In the 16th century, in France, though, Like I said, there were people there who would drink gold to extend their lifespans.
And then we had people like Cagliostro, the grandmaster of the Illuminati, and we had, of course, people in more recent times like that seem to be obsessed.
And we see on TV, even on MTV, there was a series, True Life, Amos Seps with Staying Young in 2015.
I mean, There is people who, from time to time, like that guy on Netflix, what's his name, who is obsessed with this and has all this protocol he created and so on.
So it is all about fixations for some people who maybe have too much, who have maybe reached the, let's say, the success, the economic success.
Who, at that point, when they understand that they can't bring, like you said, that money can't be brought to the grave, and that's it.
But I wanted to show to our viewers a simple and brief introduction to the alchemist who thought he might have found the solution and the philosopher's stone to obtain immortality.
I'm talking about Nicolas Flamel in this.
Very brief clip by, I think, the BBC.
The pursuit of immortality was a quest to which medieval alchemists devoted their lives.
And one amongst them became the stuff of legend.
There have been many reports of the Philosopher's Stone over the centuries, but the only stone currently in existence belongs to Mr. Nicholas Flamel, the noted alchemist and opera lover.
Mr. Flamel, who celebrated his 665th birthday last year, enjoys a quiet life in Devon with his wife, Perronelle, 658.
In the stories, Nicolas Flamel, he's a person who's actually discovered the key to eternal life, and he's alive in the well.
Well, I hate to spoil this story, but he is based on a real life figure who lived in Paris in the early 15th century, and obviously, sadly, he did die, but we do actually have his tombstone.
It's quite a magical object in itself.
Nicholas Flamel may not have achieved immortality, but alchemists continued their search for the elixir of life.
And some of their mysterious instructions survive on a magical scroll.
Let's take this one out of the box.
So, this is the amazing Ripley scroll.
There you are.
And it's made about the year 1600.
And it tells you how to make the Philosopher's Stone.
Oh, look.
Isn't that incredible?
Oh, it's so gorgeous.
Look at this.
And the colours are still so.
It's beautifully preserved.
Well, it's been rolled up for all that time.
That partly preserves it.
We very rarely unscroll the whole thing.
I'm sorry.
We're making it.
This is so honourable.
Look at this.
This is the first time I've had the chance to see these kind of artefacts myself.
Obviously, I've got a lot of reference books, some of them very cheap from 25 years old, 30 years old, that I was using as research materials.
So, selfishly, this was a chance to see the real deal.
I had a really vivid dream about Nicholas Flamel.
During the writing of Philosopher's Stone, I dreamt that I was in his alchemist studio, and this kind of symbolism was all over his walls.
I didn't even ask questions, I was just watching.
Typical writer, observing, didn't even ask.
And make them all but one.
Lo, here is the Philosopher's Stone.
I've never seen anything quite like this before.
I would imagine few people have.
What fascinates me about alchemy is you have this mixture of science, actual science, right?
Because this was old chemistry.
So some of it is genuinely scientific.
They were observing phenomena that we recognize now as the basis for chemistry.
So it's just this fascinating hybrid, isn't it?
Yeah, a combination of all these ideas.
And I'm really disappointed you haven't tried to make one.
Because the joke's on us, right?
If this works.
Yeah, we'll make sure it does work.
Yeah.
Well, thanks to BBC Select, a great insight in Harry Potter's creator and the alchemical background, also into immortality, the Philosopher's Stone that was often cited in that popular, I guess, more than one book, became more than one movie of great success.
And then she had problems because I think she criticized transsexuals or something.
Go against the system these days, you know what happened, and they put you on the blacklist.
Now, going back to the Illuminati, the request for immortality, there is at least five, maybe more citations in the actual Illuminati rituals of Adam Bishop about immortality.
If you go around and ask about it on the internet, they say, oh no, no, the immortality and Illuminati have nothing to do with one with the other.
But thanks to my dear friend Joseph Wages, who has put together with other academics the actual rituals of Adam Bishop's Illuminati, he has given me access also to the PDF, which you can quickly scroll.
And as you can see, there is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven citations dedicated to immortality in the rituals of Adam Bishop's Illuminati.
And here, like, few persons endured, but those few who do gain happiness, serenity, and immortality.
And what a comfort it must be to belong to the few noble souls who have elevated themselves above so many that were too weak to reach the goal.
So, immortality is about the strength of enduring, I guess.
Here, also, there is among the explanation of the Masonic hieroglyphs.
It says, once, please read.
Once his nature was pure, clarified, the image of deity, capable of being of the finest tool of the great original source.
He stood on the highest step, relishing his immortality.
So, this is another citation.
And here, instead, we have among the teachings of Adam Bishop's Illuminati also something to do with Jesus.
Tend your attention to the not yet completed revolution begun by Jesus, the secret of the immortality of the soul.
Here is the immortality of the soul, but also the resurrection of the five times wounded Messiah, the reawakening of a body.
By the five points of fellowship, and finally, the correct understanding of the word of a word here, because the reinterpretation of the third degree of remission for the Illuminati, because the third degree of missing is based on immortality.
You remember when you are brought back up and given that particular grip from a dying somebody who is killed, Hiram Abif is killed, then brought back.
To life.
That is the symbolism of immortality in the third degree of Freemasonry.
So that is also very interesting that in the interpretation of the Masonic class, because the Illuminati had also their own Masonic rituals and Masonic degrees that they were giving, they directly linked it to Jesus.
So that's Quite interesting.
Going forward, always in regards to immortality in the degrees of the Illuminati following the Sigurd School of Wisdom, it says one, and here I want to show it once again on the screen, one who will not believe that he had benefited them so much might also harm them in the future, one would gladly have wished them immortality as a very natural consequence of human short sightedness.
This reverence also had to be extended to the children and relatives.
Then you have immortality described here.
And here is always about Jesus.
Jesus has prepared this kingdom for us.
One immortality for his race of priest kings.
Because let's remember, like I explained in Volume 9 of my Confessions, the Illuminati of Adam Bishop claimed that they were the real Christians to the lower degrees to captivate them and say that they were teaching you real Christianity.
This is something that I have a whole chapter about in volume nine of my confessions for those who are interested.
And what happens here?
It says, Jesus has prepared the kingdom for us, won immortality for his race of priest kings, and provided a certain number of the best and most illuminated ones with knowledge and power.
So, let's say, more like giving the knowledge, it's a Gnostic concept to give only knowledge.
And power to a few rather than to give the truth to all, which is real Christianity.
So, like I wrote in volume nine, Adam Beyshat had more of a Gnostic approach overall.
But let's go further into the last two citations of the immortality in the original rituals of the Illuminati.
And here it says, Christy can read this actually.
And should not in this manner the comforting doctrine of the immortality of the self be proven in the mysteries more firmly with all rights and for experienced, tried moral men?
We should presume so.
So another citation about immortality.
The last one he said, he says, I would want to make them passionate for immortality, for leaving an eternal legacy by their good deeds.
So, I will show them their limited vegetative life, show them their destiny, the sphere of influence to which they will be transposed.
So, here all the various citations about immortality, and as somebody pointed out in the chat, immortality without God is hell.
Immortality Without God00:04:44
So, if this immortality becomes anything without God is hell, absolutely, and this obsession.
With immortality, this obsession that becomes very much a materialistic obsession is not really what we are siding with.
So, yes, immortality of the soul is one thing, but the fact that they want immortal bodies that can live forever is another thing.
So, promising immortality and superhuman abilities.
And all the various benefits, losing God is not worth anything because you will be living an eternal life of damnation after these 150 or more years.
Or if you upload your brain into a digital prison of sorts where they promise you eternal life in a sort of matrix, and now just like the protagonist of Matrix comes to that realization.
Gee, that's terrible.
So, I mean, these technologies have, of course, a form of magic that is quite evident.
But in the end, God is more than all this magic put together.
And I hope that today's show was illuminating for a lot of people and made you also understand the reality of this eternal quest that the Illuminati had for immortality.
An eternal quest that they should really put aside and instead have an eternal quest for God rather than immortality.
God then offers you the eternal life.
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