The Leo Zagami Show - EXPLAINING SECRET SOCIETIES AND THEIR ROLE IN HISTORY

Aug. 23, 2025 - The Leo Zagami Show

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EXPLAINING SECRET SOCIETIES AND THEIR ROLE IN HISTORY

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	We're going to discuss also briefly, of course, the news, guys, but it's becoming more and more uninteresting.
	Sincerely, nothing new to see here and there.
	We were hoping for some kind of peace between Russia and Ukraine, but it seems that nobody wants it.
	But we always hope.
	There's always hope.
	And then of course we have the latest by Gillian Maxwell who has confirmed something we actually knew very well.
	With respect to your father there have been multiple questions about whether he worked for any intelligence agency.
	Do you have any knowledge about that?
	I think no.
	Certainly my father had a background in intelligence because he was, I believe he did in the Second World War, he was a British intelligence officer.
	Oh, In regard to everything else she said, she kind of lied very well, I must say, like a typical British socialite.
	But the father, in fact, took on the surname Maxwell because at the time, during the Second World War, the number one British agent-inspiring master was actually a guy called Maxwell Knight, who in turn was connected to Alistair Crowley and all the rest.
	So he thought, well, why not use the name maxwell and so this sabbathian frankist legacy maybe can be hidden a little bit because that's what the sabbathian frankist did so that's that's the story of uh guilem maxwell's father and uh it appears in this interview i think that My sort of belief is that once you've been an intelligence officer,
	it doesn't mean that you're formally employed.
	So I don't think my dad in any formal sense was employed by any agency.
	Well, that's kind of a little bit of a lie because apparently the British intelligence, the CIS, MI5 or MI6, however you want to call them, whether they're internal or external, they were very much part of her father's life.
	They even financed him in buying some of the publishing companies he then went on to purchase.
	So, you see, you can't really trust Killing Maxwell.
	And she lies very much.
	She lies very much.
	Of course, the fact that she was kind of saying good things about Trump and then also about Bill Clinton makes us think she doesn't want any enemies in the political world because she's definitely very eager to get out of jail at one point or the other.
	What can we do guys?
	This is unfortunate.
	That's what we have in today's societies.
	Everything is a compromise.
	Everything is definitely a compromise.
	And behind the scenes, you have the secret societies who rule the world and the role in history.
	That's what we are trying to identify today.
	So I have these various books that I want to bring to your attention.
	Volume one, in which I talk about different kind of secret societies.
	Today we're going to be discussing that.
	Volume 8, very important because it explains how the secret societies influence Hollywood, entertainment tour, the music as well as the cinema business, the involvement of Alistair Crowley.
	Then you have also the involvement, for example, in Confessions of an Illuminati, volume 9.
	Now we're discussing Zelensky.
	Zelensky, who is basically once again celebrating the flag of Ukraine like we care about the flag of Ukraine.
	Do you care about the flag of Ukraine?
	He seems to care.
	He seems to care very much.
	Little Zelensky.
	Can I call him Little Zelensky?
	I don't care.
	Yes, I do.
	Call him what you want.
	Call him what you want.
	Little Zelensky is a typical product of the Sabbatian Frankist environment he was born in.
	And at the same time, his country like I explained in volume nine of my confessions is itself an artificial product meaning that Ukraine up until the beginning of the 19th century was not even remotely discussed because Ukraine was simply an extension of Russia.
	Then as I explain in volume 9 of my confessions, what happens is that both Poland as well as the German Reich tried to influence the birth of this Ukrainian identity that they could then put against Russia.
	could manifest this Ukrainian identity against Russia.
	And so it's very important to realize all the various secret societies that are behind the creation of Ukraine and also the environment of course of Freemasonry, but not only Freemasonry, also of the Illuminati.
	At one point in 1848, around 1848, the Illuminati pushed towards eliminating monarchies or transforming them in constitutional monarchies and there was this wind of change all across Europe.
	And of course, before that, at the end of the, let's say, 1700s, there was also another secret society, the Asiatic brethren, that was very important in our story.
	Asiatic brethren, I talked about it in my books, was connected to the cousin of Jacob Frank.
	It was an esoteric and Panamaconic organization that emerged in the early 1780s because the Jews wanted to have, the Jews of course, we have to be very specific here, the Sabbatian Frankist Jews, wanted to have a way of influencing Freemasonry.
	Now, the only way they could influence Freemasonry in the 1780s was by creating an alliance also with the Jesuits who had been kicked out of the Vatican.
	So the cousin of Jacob Frank was made in charge of building up something that was open to the Jews, something that most Masonic lodges at the time were not, even the Illuminati.
	And they aimed to unify the religions.
	And on top of that, the other aim was.
	to unify Europe.
	So their legacy is pretty present in today's society.
	I mean, the fact that the cousin of Jacob Franke was actually somehow involved in this order of the Knights and Brethren of St. John the Evangelist from Asia and Europe, commonly referred to as the Asiatic Brethren.
	And its lodges, in fact, were called Melchizedek Lodges, honoring Melchizedek, which is also a very important figure within Judaism.
	Now, the order spread, especially from Vienna, throughout Germany and you have to understand that Austria and the Augsburg Empire became a very important place for the Sabbathian Francist and that's where the Rothschild family developed one of the most important branches.
	But today we are discussing, of course, secret societies.
	Secret societies have been influential in the unification of Italy, for example.
	I have here a very rare booklet from the time of the unification of Italy that was published by the Italian Carbonari, the secret society that was created by the Freemasons of the Illuminati, in particular the Freemasons of the Memphis and Misraeli.
	And then this booklet was dedicated to expose all the secrets and the scandals of the Vatican, how much the priest paid for the prostitutes, how much they paid for this or that.
	All this most scandalous stuff was portrayed in this little booklet.
	We didn't have the internet at the time, so that was how they spread the information.
	That's like the tabloid.
	Yeah, I mean, it was a little booklet that they could hide easily in their jacket or something.
	And the because of course it was dangerous that you would be arrested if you were found with that kind of content so it's very important first of all to understand are all secret societies evil?
	What are secret societies?
	Is Freemasonry to be considered as a secret society when in reality it's a society that everybody knows about, though then you have the secrets within and then the whole world within Freemasonry which is hidden and very difficult to understand.
	the rights of Freemasonry different one from the other.
	Freemasonry can be many things, and not all those things are necessarily evil.
	So we have to be very honest, and today I wanted to really discuss all this, first of all, by discussing the very nature of the secret societies.
	As I exposed it in volume one of my confession, I exposed the nature of the secret societies, explaining the secret societies that are religious, the secret societies that are based on an idea, or maybe a revolutionary idea, a political idea.
	Now, usually, to be honest, the secret societies that are political, like the Illuminati were the first of its kind, are kind of easy to
	understand, because if it's a political mission they are accomplishing, it's quite easy, you know, it's not like some kind of hyperbole you have to study and understand through initiations what it's really all about.
	The mission mission then can be revealed at various levels depending also on the trust you have from the apprentices all the way to the top where you have maybe the college of initiates who is the supreme council of source who is controlling the order.
	So it's very important for me today to explain you what in my first book I explained as the typology of the secret societies.
	The typology meaning the way that the secret societies are divided and how they operate.
	Today I wanted to explain the difference in secret societies that might have religious, they might have a different approach depending on their classification so religious secret societies political and social secret societies the societies of occult movement the societies that dedicate to the occult like the ordotemplarientis of alis crowley that alis crowley actually took over the
	pan-finalist society So if the purpose is so different, not all secret societies are the same.
	And do they actually still have a relevance in our modern world?
	Because like I explained in volume 8 of my..
	confessions secret societies have been ceding more and more power to the modern think tanks that are much more public everybody knows about the bildeberg club yeah everybody knows about the world economic forum they ah there is a meeting davos they even go to cv well it's a society that what is discussed within is not always revealed.
	Now, in the context of the World Economic Forum, it's much more public.
	For the Bilderberg Club, it's completely forbidden.
	We know that there is presidents, there is prime ministers who go there and all that.
	And I'll explain in volume 12 of my confessions how the Jesuits were actively involved in the creation of it together with the OSS, then the CIA and the American establishment because they wanted to unify Europe also by creating the Club Bildeberg.
	So the Club Bildeberg is a society that everybody knows about.
	It's not really a sect.
	in the way it operates.
	It's a sect probably in the way things are discussed within.
	What's a sect and what's a society?
	Now, for example, if their purpose is of a religious nature and their price, you know, we know that societies, secret societies can be built around a religious concept which is sectarian, which might not be accepted by the majority of people in a society.
	Like, for example, the Christians of their origins were themselves meeting in secret in the catacombs in Rome.
	They might have been considered in their early stages even a secret society of souls.
	Yeah, because they were not accepted widely.
	So this is very important that we define the way these secret societies are.
	And so the secret society itself, like I said in volume one of my confessions, is a phenomenon of greater antiquity.
	It's characterized with a multitude of diverse aspects of traditional life.
	religion, politics, magic, hermeticism.
	And it makes, it's indispensable if we want to have a proper social analysis.
	to really understand what they are made of and often unfortunately sociologists ethnologists anthropologists academics in general don't seem to they only seem to scratch the surface and they always seem to not want to go too deep because it's very difficult without having access maybe to internal documents or to an initiation that can be revealing some things.
	So, the historians understand, though, more than any other, the importance of secret societies because it is something that is not affected by the collective imagination of the moment.
	That means that the secret societies, whatever society, you know, whatever we are discussing today, you know, the latest thing on TV, the secret societies.
	is focused on their own objective And so they don't care what happens.
	They might be able to influence if they are very influential, if they are political, if they have some members who are influential, they can maybe influence the narrative of what we're following on TV, but they're not going to be following what is on TV.
	So what is a society, how we define the secret character of it, this is very important.
	There is in the true secret society, in the sense typically perceived by public opinion, is generally very reserved.
	but yet it's very considered very hostile like for example the bohemian club is considered usually in a very hostile way because nobody really knows what these guys are doing.
	And then they're pretty hostile if you get caught in there.
	Yes, absolutely.
	So their objects are hidden, their forms are secret, plus their means and activities are carefully concealed.
	Well, we tend to be a little bit doubtful about them.
	It's different with Freemasonry because Freemasonry guys, we find this compass and square in front of the entrance of every town in the United States of America.
	So to call the Freemasons a secret society is not correct.
	It's the most public society, just like, you know, the Lions or the Roderick Club.
	But the difference is in the way things are done within Freemasonry.
	And it's also very true that the rights of Freemasonry, meaning after you become a Master Mason, it's more elitariant and they might bring you realities which are much more secretive.
	And at times they might also, these rights of Freemasonry, of perfections or however you want to call them the ancient and accepted Scottish rite which is the most the more prevalent here in the United States it's most of it it's rather innocent in the way it approaches certain mysteries,
	there is some accusations that within the highest degrees at times things get a little bit muddy and different but that I think is accusations that also have to do with the factor that there has been in
	And it has in a way stained the actual regular Scottish Rite because they were doing things in a way that it was.
	Here, for example, the AI overview of it is the Rite of Chernobyl.
	Please read.
	The Rite of Chernobyl was a rival and to the established Masonic authorities a legitimate system of Scottish Rite Masonry named after Joseph Chernobyl, a jeweller who established a conflicting Supreme Council in New York in 1800.
	It was a major source of controversy in 19th century American Freemasonry, with the established Scottish Rite Supreme Councils declaring it clandestine and unauthorized.
	The Cherno Rite eventually disappeared but saw a revival and eventually fade out by the early 20th century.
	Now it's not completely true that it fades out because then you have, you know, of course, the Illuminati who like to practice it.
	And somehow it got to Alessar Crowley at one point through John Yarker.
	And it was definitely a lot of controversy around it because the practices which are similar in the way the degrees, you know, it's 33 degrees, but it's a completely different ritual.
	And this ritual for some people was anti-Christian, was not really following,
	the regular the well I mean I never practiced the Chernobyl right I was actually given an honorary Chernobyl right a degree but I never really practice it it was because it's very much given to you within these occult circles which they like to give you degrees.
	It seems like you can do those things pretty easily if you know people.
	Absolutely.
	In any case, the secret societies that we are discussing today seem to have influenced society.
	The Carbonari in Italy, this booklet by the Carbonari, the Carbonari were responsible for the unification of Italy.
	Why?
	Because the church was perceived as an enemy because their territories was sitting right in the center of Italy and the Vatican wasn't just a small little place with 900 individuals, it was actually a whole region, so all the regions of center Italy were controlled by the Vatican and so the Italian unification had to fight the Vatican.
	To fight the Vatican, freemasonry, the forms of freemasonry that were more successful in Italy were quite anti-Christian, but eventually they also had to create a secret society that could initiate even the non-Masons and that secret society became the Carbonari in which instead they call themselves than calling yourself brother you will call the other guy cousin in which the lodges will be called in a different way but in reality it was a so where cucino comes from yeah
	when they say cucino in brooklyn so i was just wondering oh cucino yeah because there is this you know this this tradition and so the carbonari the actual initiation was pretty hardcore and in the end you know,
	you were threatened with death because if you were caught by the church and arrested, you were, of course, had to know, you needed to know that you couldn't, you know, that it was better to get killed or tortured by the church.
	to reveal the secret.
	So the initiations were very harsh.
	The way that the Carbonari operated was, of course, under the Illuminati and under certain rights of Freemason, in particular Memphis and Mizraem.
	And of course, they ended up unifying Italy.
	And Italy was unified also with the help of a grand hierophant of those Memphis and Mizraem rights, who was Garibaldi, who became also Grand Master.
	And the other guy in charge of unifying Italy was Mazzini, a 33-degree Freemason.
	who himself was put in charge of another secret society called young Italy but all this was within the frame of the 1848 1850 revolutions that the luminati generated also with the help of the sabbatian frankists around Europe so As you can see, secret societies have been very influential.
	Here in America we have the basis of the 1776 revolution that of course is to be found in Freemasonry.
	Freemasonry at the time was considered much more a secret society, though it wasn't so public and also it was very different from how it is nowadays.
	Nowadays politics and religion are not discussed, if not at certain levels.
	They are prohibited.
	The regularity of Freemasonry imposes you not to discuss religion and politics.
	But in those days things were different.
	And so the Freemasons were at the Boston Tea Party, which would not have existed without the Green Tavern and without the Freemasons who met there and created this event that triggered the war against the United Kingdom.
	And also the connections the Freemasons had, Freemasons like Benjamin Franklin, who was also worshiped master of a world,
	we will put on also the comments so they can appear on the side while we discuss them.
	The actual sabbatical and frankest involvement both the political and esoteric societies.
	Yes, we can do that absolutely.
	Don Lemon does it.
	He loves to use this kind of system.
	Okay.
	So let's discuss a little bit the sabbatical and frankest involvement.
	Like I said, Moses Dobrusk was the cousin of Jacob Franke and he was the guy who officially like many other sabbatians from the frankist movement converted from judaism to the catholic faith of course their conversion was always very relative so for moses de brusca he became franz tomas shoffield and he was elevated to the nobility becoming franz tomas elder von shoffield and
	from that moment onwards he also became one of the main activists of the masonic knights of some of st john the evangelist for Asia and Europe.
	this was a very important order which like I said earlier preached the unification of Europe the unification of all the religions and that's why like I explained in volume 7 of my confessions still in the last hundred years the Vatican relies very much on Austria for their plan for a one world the region and
	in fact I yeah absolutely Austria Austria Such a pretty country.
	Okay, the Sabbathian, you see, at one point the Sabbathians with the Sabbathized Evi, he converted to islam in 1666 and that was the moment in which most of jury most of the jews abandoned him though the ones who stayed faithful converted outwards to islam and they were called the dome and they were practically very much active in turkey they became then still very active towards
	the end of the ottoman empire when they actually fomented what was known as the young turks the young turks was like the turkish version of the young italy of matsini so and everything was from the island of Thessaloniki.
	the Domme eventually imploded, meaning that they counted around 50,000 Domme at one point at the beginning of the 20th century but then they kind of faded out because a lot of them refused to go back to Judaism but at the same time they integrated so well in the Islamic setup that they
	Frankist element was based as we know in Paul.
	you know, in Poland, in Ukraine, in those areas, and that's where the Domais actually converted instead to Catholicism and not to Islam, they stayed more loyal to this secret society.
	they continued with their salvation through sin and debauchery and their orders and all the rest.
	But that's not the subject of today.
	Today's subject, as you know, is expressing the secret societies.
	And in this case, the secret societies were always used by different factions, even with information, they created different factions.
	So the Jesuits created their own faction, the Golden Rose Quar in the 1750s.
	And at the same time, then later on, the Sabbathian Frankists allied with them and created the Asiatic Brethren, this new faction.
	And we see also the way the Jesuits operate, which was the way of a secret society.
	I explained that in volunteer of my confession.
	So a secret society is very important to understand because, like I said, it depends.
	If it's a religious secret society, and here I would like you, Chrissy, to read from my volume one, the purpose of a religious nature seeker society.
	Okay, their purpose is of a religious nature, whether they are practicing a constituted religion, trying to promote a new religious philosophy, or if they put themselves or their service or varying degrees of religious movements.
	To varying degrees of religious movements, in this case.
	they are to be studied under the double aspect of the managerial dictator director oh god it's volume one ah from the perspective of a basic member of the society in question the first in fact can pursue a paraligious aim which is not strictly religious in nature the motivation of the second instead is essentially looking for religious action it is clear that religious religion can serve to galvanize a group of willing people.
	If the relationship between the religious ideology and the immediate political goals coincide, religion can become the pretext.
	Now this is important.
	I'm going to interrupt you here Because for the Illuminati, re-establishing Gnosticism, as I explained in volume 9, was the excuse, and in fact they claimed to the lower level Illuminati that they were the real Christians.
	In reality, they wanted to destroy all religions and they were very much at the upper levels atheistic in their views of things.
	But because they wanted to get people to embrace the Illuminati, they created this lie, let's say.
	And I want to show you here, this is volume 9 instead of my confessions.
	What do you want me to read?
	Here.
	From here to here?
	Absurdity driven to, where, from there?
	Okay, for the Illuminati, most of us are just ignorant and greedy fools who have been misguided by a fake version of Christianity, while the real thing was kept alive in secret by them in various mystery schools which eventually established Freemasonry to preserve real Christianity.
	So you see what you read before about the fact that religion can serve to galvanize a group and a religious ideology.
	And in a way, they did that in the Illuminati for the lowest ranks.
	Then the most, the advanced Illuminati, they were very much embracing what became communism.
	They didn't care about religion anymore because because they were very much embracing what the gnostics had done by spreading this communism virus that eventually would manifest in the manifest of Karl Marx who published his manifesto for the League of the Just who in fact was founded by a disciple of Adam Beishaut.
	So the lower levels are always kept in a very religious modality while the upper levels are the ones who have a more rational and at times even atheistic perspective because they want to instrumentally use religion.
	here please read the from volume one again well it is not possible to define the origins of all the religious secret societies this method methodology could help you establish a valid perimeter to make an parameter to make an objective monograph of considerable size if further interested in the subject the key point to keep in mind in doing this is the close relationship between the purely religious purposes and
	the others this relationship is established in any social setting but with much more vigor in secret societies such as the Templars the set assassins the thugs and so on just to give an example nice temperance where of course known as a religious order but they had an inner circle that was conduct the secret society they are sheen that like I explained in volume 10 on my confessions they borrowed a lot of stuff from the they were definitely
	initiating and they were a secret society because they were preparing people to the ultimate cycle
	sacrifice by showing them virgins making them smoke hashish and all the rest and then you have the tags which are a secret society from india dedicated to assassinations and they are really very much the most feared ones back in the days of the British Empire and used at the time even by the British Empires to conduct assassinations on commission.
	But let's go back to the actual claims of the Illuminati who by absurdity wanted to describe themselves as the real Christians.
	Absurdity driven to the highest levels, but remember, this is only the beginning of my unveiling.
	In all this, the people could see as their only sorry advantage that the fate of serfdom now also befell their previous oppressors.
	In this way, the history of the human race is the history of usurpation and direct oppression.
	It is easy to imagine that the fate of Jesus' old and new disciples was miserable and sad, just as he had prophesied.
	Now their secret secrecy had to be twofold and therefore concealed.
	their true doctrines behind hieroglyphs and themselves behind the name of other societies and this all the more since the bulk of those who call themselves Christians have no understanding whatsoever of the true spirit of this holy legion.
	This caution was often necessitated by persecution from outside.
	With these hieroglyphs, they celebrated the memory of their great teacher and eagerly awaited the time when they would regain their original rights and thus appear to the world in their full glory.
	So what they are trying to make you believe in this kind of secret societies and in the Illuminati and also in the neognostic secret societies that followed including the other Templarians is that in reality they are bringing you to the real,
	you know, the real Christianity or the real ancient mystery, the fate of the ancient mystery schools, that what you have been following is not the true religion, but simply a charade that is being created that way for the ignorant masses.
	So it's not about creating real Christians.
	In reality, it's about creating real fools who believe they might be real Christians.
	The Gnostics knew this very well.
	In fact, in Volume 9, I dedicate a whole chapter.
	to how the Gnostics were the original Illuminati and how people like Adam Beshap, John Yarke, and even Albert Pike picked up from that point, from that moment in history certain teachings and let's not forget that the gnostics existed even before the arrival of christianity they existed among judaism they were gnostics even before jacob franco or sabbatized ebby doing the exact same things um but
	then the gnostics when jesus arrived felt they could actually steal jesus symbolism jesus teachings and integrated within their own teachings and that's where you have the fathers of the church in the first few centuries of the church fighting these heresies that were regarded as very dangerous.
	Now, the alumbrados, somebody said in the alumbrados, the alumbrados are very much mentioned in volume 12 of my confession, so you can go there because even Ignacio Ayola, the founder of the Jesuits, became a member.
	The alumbrados were the typical product of the Iberic Peninsula of the time.
	Spain had been partly invaded by the Mosque, by the Islam.
	It had a big community of Jews.
	The Christians suddenly had a Catholic church had established the Inquisition to purify the whole Iberic Peninsula from the remains of these religions that were considered dangerous.
	So they went after the remains of Islam.
	They went after, but we shouldn't forget that it was thanks to Islam that the hermetic tradition and knowledge that will help rebuild Europe through the Renaissance.
	came through Spain.
	That's a little bit the symbolism of the Rosencrucian myth of Christian Rosencruz.
	In any case, the Allen Brothers were a mix of beliefs between gnosticism, Islamic mystics, and Kabbalah.
	So these three things were at the center of the Alumbratos, who the name is the Illuminati of the time, who Ignacio Loyola became involved with.
	And that's why, like I explained in volume 12, the Inquisition went after him numerous times.
	And in the end, they became the winners once the Pope approved the Jesuit order, because they said we need people who are so skillful with all these magic practices, spiritual beliefs and stuff to go and actually find out who are the heretics.
	We need people who were actually heretics themselves.
	So that's really what characterized the birth of the Jesuit order.
	In reality, the real Christians were never the Gnostics, but in Freemasonry in the 18th century, when Freemasonry started to expand with all these Masonic rites and everything else,
	Gnostics definitely became, as many other mystery schools, part of the whole construction architecture of this new speculative freemasonry with all these various masonic rites that eventually met together in the early 1780s in Willemsbad in 1782 in particular,
	there was a convent in which they had to decide which were the rules of Freemasonry, which were, what was this Freemasonry that everybody was talking about.
	And the Illuminati, of course, were already there, infiltrating the whole scene, but at the same time the Jesuits were there.
	and the Jesuits who had been pushing very much for a rebirth of the Templar myth because the Templar myth was favorable to them.
	They could see somebody asked me earlier here in the chat if the rose-crucians were ever genuine now the rose-crucians and the rose-crucian manifestos appeared in the very early 1600s that we know the fama fraternitatis first of all and the rose-crucians were built within a context of reformation of Protestantism in Germany,
	very hostile to the Catholic Church.
	When the Jesuits who were the heads of the counter-reformation saw the success of the Rosicrucians, they inevitably prompted to infiltrate them and they managed to infiltrate them by creating the Golden Rose Cross later on and the early stages of it that were in Rome.
	at the court also of that Swedish queen that converted to Catholicism and went to Rome.
	So you see, all these secret societies have very much influenced our history from the secret society that influenced the birth of the Jesuits.
	And the Jesuits themselves, to a certain extent, because of the four vows, have that element.
	And also, like I explained in the volume 12 of my confession, Nancy Pelosi, I make an example here, a Jesuit of the fifth vow, Gavin Newsom, a Jesuit of the fifth vow.
	Nobody knows about the fifth vow.
	It's a secret society.
	And it's part of the Jesuits.
	To know more about it, volume 12 of my confession.
	i can briefly tell you that it's very influential i mean you you can simply go to the building where the Congress takes place and the history of the building will show you and lead you to the Jesuits.
	Yeah.
	Which is quite incredible.
	So it's not only Freemasonry who has founded and created the United States, but also the Jesuits, as the Jesuits and Freemasonry seem to have always been very much.
	connected.
	Christy, you have any questions about I think it's very interesting.
	The queen from Sweden that I was mentioning was Christina.
	Christina, queen of Sweden.
	She disappeared.
	Did she disappear?
	No.
	At the magic door?
	She was involved with the magic door.
	Some people disappeared.
	She didn't disappear.
	She was a queen.
	She's buried in the Vatican, actually.
	Queen Christina was a member of the House of Basel.
	She was the queen of Sweden from 1632 to her abdication in 1654.
	was, like I explained in this book, Athanasius Kircher, who convinced her to abandon whatever she was doing, go to Rome, and participate in the creation of a college of illuminati that included of course her but included also many other valid alchemists and stuff and they were involved in that building that we went and visited many times so the magical door yeah it's pretty incredible which is in piazza vittoria in rome
	and we are surrounded by all these magical seals What are they?
	Gargoyles or something on each side of it.
	Intimidating gargoyles.
	And then it's an actual door.
	I used to post it on my Facebook when I used Facebook, but yeah, it's an actual door.
	door which at the moment is sealed so it doesn't leave but at the time it led to an alchemical laboratory where certain people did certain experiments and one point Some of them disappeared, some of them apparently went through what was literally a dimensional door.
	So, I mean...
	Absolutely.
	Now, somebody's asking me a question here, a question regarding the Nice of Malta.
	the Knights of Malta cannot be considered in the regular reception.
	I mean, the sovereign military order of Malta is They have even passports, they have their own territory.
	Me and Christy went and filmed on the military.
	I even were filming next to their church that used to be a nice temperate church on the Aventino.
	Did you have a nice nice moment?
	So as you can see, there is different kinds of Knights of Malta.
	the public face of the Knights of Malta, the SMOM, and then you have these more secretive Knights of Malta who are often involved in controversy of sorts and of course they're involved with intelligence activities, you remember?
	Oh yes, I remember.
	So that is basically very shady times, very shady individuals, in fact I was brought near the castle of San Leo by these individuals to do this initiation and the initiation consisted in me wearing that, who was the wife beater for a whole night, I had to wear it and then...
	You did that on Valentine's Day, I'm looking over myself.
	Well of course I had to go for initiation, I can't bring you there, but then literally fire manifested in the...
	without the fire in the place the shows happened.
	What they call...
	You didn't tell me that.
	Okay, okay, during the initiation this fire erupt, you know you have a fireplace, but the fireplace was completely empty, completely clean.
	Okay.
	Before the initiation, some suddenly the whole thing and the grandmaster who was celebrating that guy from calabria weird okay yeah he freaked out he said this is La Chose.
	So I asked him what is La Chose because La Chose is part of the more of the Martinist tradition.
	The Martinist is another secret society connected to Freemasonry.
	And they say that when an initiation is regular, it's genuine, you have something manifesting, something magic, something inexplicable.
	And so the fire manifested and their faces when I arrived into the initiation was like, that guy, that other guy, you know which guy is.
	guys and they were like all these guys very much security operators and stuff of whatever intelligent and they were all crooks but they were shocked because they said well this this is something really serious we're doing here initiating and i initiated myself there because they gave me access to their archives and in fact after i was given access to the ship sheen in
	wrote a book about it of course he's got to do these things for the book so he can let you know guys he does this undercover work it's not always so easy.
	You have to actually like go into it and be a part of it to really know anything about it.
	And so these people that internet, you know, dive through the internet, I mean, if they're diving through your stuff, then they're going to find out.
	Now, somebody is asking me a question.
	And because we have still a few minutes, I will answer your questions.
	Which secret society controls Canada?
	Now, one of the...
	Canada?
	Yes.
	And so I'm going to reveal one of the most influential secret societies that controls Canada.
	They actually have a website, so we can actually show them.
	Societat Rosa Cruciana in Canada.
	Established in May 1876.
	This is apparently a very influential secret society.
	The Societat Rosa Cruciana, if you want to read here.
	The Societat Rosa Cruciana in Canada.
	Rosa Cruciana in Canada was first mentioned in declaration dated May 31st, 1876.
	1876 but it was not formally constituted until september 19th of that year under charter from the supreme magus of grece mw frater most worshipful frater frater prince Dimitrios Rodokanakis.
	Thank you.
	Most of the membership came from the town of Matland, Ontario.
	The society consisted of a high council one year later- a high council one year later in September 1877.
	The society was active throughout Ontario for over a decade but went into abeyance in 1889 following the death of Montague
	And then it continues and gets all the way to these days, as you can see so the high the high council has active colleges in ontario manitoba saskatchewan saskatchewan so i gave you an answer on that very quick one there was a very much a controversy that erupted between the societal section in canada and the ordotempioientis in canada it was a war between
	the two factions, two occult secret societies, and very interesting outcome from it.
	Okay, guys.
	Much love from Myrtle Beach.
	I hope you guys aren't getting all wet from that terrible storm that was going up the East Coast.
	I don't know if that was North Carolina or if it was further south.
	I don't know.
	I hope you're staying safe.
	Somebody says, Jerry Brown must be a Jesuit of the fifth bow too.
	He's older, but they are raised together.
	Interesting.
	Well, yeah, definitely if they have also a background in a seminary and if that background is in a Jesuit seminary, then he's a certified Jesuit agent of the fifth bow for sure.
	No, very bad, very bad.
	Very bad, very bad.
	Thank you so much.
	Governor of our great state of California, very bad.
	Yeah, Gavin Newsom, guys.
	He's really, and these days, because he's very active on the social networks and he's building himself up with memes that show him as Superman and all these kind of things, he's really thinking he can become president of the United States of America.
	Never, never, never.
	you're not going to California my America it's paradox so we are saying this from California but this is okay If you want, I will answer another couple of questions, but we are actually reaching the end of this broadcast.
	So I suggest you do it very fast.
	Like I said, another kind of secret society, or let's say within the political frame, you have the social political secret society, which is an association whose main objective is the satisfaction of a need or putting in place a structure essentially political or social.
	This is what we have mainly today in a modern society.
	Just so to give you a very...
	I remember this from volume one, and it went on, and it told all the societies.
	This one and this one.
	I mean, if you ever want to know what all the societies are, volume one.
	The pan-finalist societies, which are also very important.
	As the name implies, pan-finalist societies are not intended to counteract political, religious or philosophical ideas, but they create a totally new structure from scratch, a kind of proposed system for mankind and society.
	Like, for example, they say that Eric Weinstein, his brother, are involved in the B group.
	group we can consider to a certain extent what they're doing as a sort of secret society that is built to implement transhumanism and there is definitely today as we speak secret societies that are already working behind the scenes to worship the AI.
	We had already in the 70s the rise of chaos magic, which was drawn to be closer and closer to the cyber reality.
	And now, of course, there is secret societies that are really worshipping the AI.
	as a god.
	So that is the ultimate level of insanity that we have today within the various forms, various organizations and their objectives.
	Of course, certain groups can act at all levels of our society, but remain invisible even to the hierarchy of the society that welcomes them within their fold.
	At the time, you know, sometimes you are welcoming a secret society, but you are in a level in which you are given certain truths between braggers that eventually are revealed not to be truths at all but simply an escamotage a trick a way of disinforming people so the upper enchants can manipulate you better thank you so
	much guys we're tired of this manipulation we are tired of it as a human race we are tired of it we're tired of being manipulated Somebody's talking to me about Chabad Lubovic.
	I mean, it's not really a secret society, but definitely within that reality, there can be an inner circle that is a secret society.
	Thank you so much.
	We need to continue this discussion in the future.
	I think that it's a complex discussion and it's probably part two.
	In the meantime, I hope you like also this new format that today we have inaugurated.
	And we have a big picture with the bullshit basket.
	want to actually bring you next week some stuff that I see going around on YouTube about people claiming this and that about the luminari freemasonry and the secret whatever this and that because this needs really some bullshit busters we've been we're saying we don't have time Oh, I know.
	Well, we don't have time, but it could, and we see you next Saturday, and like I said, if we receive more donations, we might be able to actually bring you two shows a week, which was possible before because we got a little bit more in the donations of what we are getting now of course we have also our books that is another way of supporting your show guys not for don't forget that books all the books i started today volume
	12, 9, 7, 8, 1.
	You have a hope.
	Anyway, we want to really grow this channel.
	We've been trying.
	Volume 10.
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	But there is one book this week, which has been a really bad book sales.
	What?
	We had really bad book sales this week in general.
	But one book sold.
	I thought you said I had bad book sales.
	No, this book is...
	The Sagami family cookbook almost sold more than my books this week.
	I'm sorry, May.
	You have to be sorry.
	This is great.
	I love it.
	It's the most expensive.
	It has also my recipes.
	Me and Christy love food.
	We are really passionate about food.
	There is great images.
	There is great recipes.
	And you can't really cook and create in your kitchen a five-star Italian restaurant, learn how to make pizza, fresh pasta.
	I mean, you guys, we can.
	do it if you can find it on Amazon.
	the comic family cookbook so I'm really glad actually No?
	kitchen is very very small it's probably like So I don't have a very big kitchen at all and I don't have a lot of supplies.
	I just use what I have in my hands.
	It's mostly these that do the work.
	Somebody said, Kylie Thor said, reposted the stream on X. Thank you so much.
	Thank you so much, guys.
	Reposted this stream on your social networks of choice.
	Make your grandma watch it.
	Nobody's cursing over here.
	So your kids can watch it and your grandma.
	And your grandma.
	I don't want to say any bad words.
	Okay, guys.
	One thing, we're going to still be closing with Vincenzo, each of us, and Medieval.
	Okay, you might want your kids to leave the room now.
	But I might have a new closing, how do you say?
	Intro.
	Exit-tro.
	Exit.
	Intro, exit, exit.
	track a new closing track for next week for the moment we close with media evolve it might be the last time you hear because next week I might have another tracking ready.
	In that time, our world has taken so many steps outflowing, outflowing, outflowing, outflowing, outflowing.
	Thank you.
	In the negative leap of the church, violence, technology, social organization, dehumanization, in the negative leap of the church, violence, technology, I'll run away.
	I forgot to play music.
	Thank you.
	I don't know.
	Enjoy yourself.
	Have a great week.
	Have a great week.

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