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June 7, 2025 - The Leo Zagami Show
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JESUIT INFLUENCED UNION DEL BARRIO IGNITES CIVIL UNREST IN LA AGAINST ICE
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Hello, everyone.
Everybody!
Leo Zagami and Christy Zagami here for the Leo Zagami show, our weekly, and we will have an extra show next week.
It's going to be a little bit more esoteric, so get ready for that.
But today we have a lot of news because, guys, yes, a lot of news.
And what is it regarding?
In Los Angeles, things have gone out of control.
Because, you see, they started to arrest a few people who were working illegally.
ICE is doing their job.
But here in California, especially in Southern California, things...
Who are they?
And what is it with these Chicanos and the Jesuits?
Well, we will be discussing the whole thing today.
First of all, Christy, who are our sponsors?
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Everybody that bought the book this week.
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Let's remind our viewers that Volume 12 of My Confessions is out.
It's the last installment of the Confessions series.
It can be read without reading the prior books, but also it's a way of introducing yourself to This is a very important subject.
This book is not only a historical essay, it is also an essay on what is currently going on.
And if you really want to understand who is behind the all-seeing eye in this pyramid of power, which I've been describing for many years, Volume 12 of my Confessions, History, Seeker Societies and the Politics of the Jesuit, New World Order and the Luciferian Court.
Aside from that, guys, today I make my first pizza.
Yes, of course, following the instructions of the Zagami family cookbook, I was able to make my Of course, Maria, but please show mine as well.
Of course, yeah.
I made my first pizza, guys.
I wanted to experiment with my first pizza.
It's a margarita.
A simple pizza.
But how did it come out?
It wasn't bad, no?
No, it was really good.
Very good.
I'm getting...
He was so happy to do it.
I was happy to see him so happy.
And a more sophisticated pizza, of course.
It's not.
It's not.
It's my favorite pizza.
It is Christy's favorite pizza.
So let's showcase this pizza.
You can And I tell you guys, there is a lot to learn here, also how to make fresh pasta, amongst other things.
I mean, you have the pizzas, of course, which are very important, but then you have the calzoni.
I haven't made that in a long time.
Is that a cacio e pepe?
Yeah, yeah.
I need to make that.
I have salami.
There are all kinds of pizzas here that can be made.
Okay, guys, now let's go into the heart of the problem here, because what has happened in the last few days,
there was of course this group which is very much a group of Marxists called Runion del Barrio who started to spread this they must have known that ICE was
So they spread this through the internet, LA emergency protests, blah, blah, blah.
Of course, it's a particular area which me and Kristi know very well, because it's one of the few areas of LA that we are forced to go sometimes because it's fueled by federal offices.
And they even tried to free Some of the immigrants that have been arrested from the prison.
I mean, it was complete chaos last night.
And so let me show you what went on here in LA.
Well, not here in LA, because we're in Palm Springs.
Well, but here in California.
Actually, Palm Springs is considered greater LA by some people.
Is it?
Yes, so that's what we are discussing here.
I didn't know that.
We've been talking about all night, as you can see there, federal agents blocking protesters.
From a parking lot.
And Mike, is this the same parking lot where you said that ICE agents were actually gathering?
Yeah, it is patent right there.
Thanks.
Oliver is pushing in on it.
We already had one protester get pulled out by federal agents and taken into custody.
Okay, this was last night.
But in the afternoon, it was complete chaos.
They tried their best to even attack a L.A. detention center.
And the Democrats defend all this.
I mean, it's insane.
Newsom is defending the attack to a detention center.
How is this possible?
The Jesuits, of course, are behind.
I mean, I don't want to be racist in any way, shape or form towards the people of Mexican origins because, as we know, California, of course, was originally part of Mexico.
But the thing is, guys, that this is the United States of America.
And what happened yesterday was really out of order.
And the way that this chaos spreads very fast and it creates...
Problems for normal people who might simply want to, you know, get on with their ordinary life, their ordinary business.
instead is impossible because suddenly you find yourself in a situation like this.
Let's go!
Thank you.
Complete chaos, and this is absolutely intolerable, but the most crazy thing is that Gavin Newsom is actually supporting these people and all the criminals that ICE is trying to arrest and deport.
Rather than the ICE agents who descended on multiple businesses in downtown Los Angeles, including a Home Depot, and carried out these raids yesterday, just like they carried out these raids a few days ago also in San Diego, where in an Italian restaurant there were numerous illegal migrants.
Christy, what do you think about this situation?
Because, I mean, the far left seems to be supporting these actions, which are completely out of control at times, and they damage, of course, also the local businesses, but also the people who are, like I said, going along with their ordinary business.
Now I'm going to explain, by the way, how all this is connected to the Jesuit order.
I was just going to say that it's amazing that Gavin Newsom is talking about becoming president, like he wants to run.
That's what I heard.
I heard that.
I keep hearing it, and I don't know why.
It's just, it's unbelievable.
And then they made this problem because they let all those immigrants in, those illegal immigrants.
They're not immigrants, you know, illegal immigrants.
Yeah, but then they are supported also by the legal immigrants because the Chicano movement emerged in the 60s as a movement which, you know, they are Mexican.
But then they started in the 70s and 80s supporting also the illegal immigrants.
So that is the problem here, you see.
So who is behind all this?
Let's, first of all, show the organization and what they are, because it's important to understand who they are.
So, Christy, get ready, because I'm going to make you read a few things.
This is their website, Unión del Barrio.
El Pueblo Unido.
And these people, they are absolutely revolutionary.
They are against America.
And I'm going to show you and prove this.
They don't want to embrace the American dream.
They want to actually transform America in another shithole like South or Central America filled with...
uh i mean there is the history behind this group they were born in 1981 and if you go on the website the 1981 was an extremely significant year for U.S. imperialism.
U.S. imperialism!
It is!
It is be possible.
That's the way it says it.
Okay, it is be impossible to fully understand the rise of Ronald Reagan in 1981 without considering how the previous two decades of the 1960s and 1970s had dealt the U.S. one after another domestic and international crisis, humiliation, and defeat.
During the 1960s and the 70s, the main trend in the world had been of mass movements of social justice, anti-war, anti-establishment sentiment, domestic political assassination, and a worldwide revolutionary fervor.
U.S. imperialism was reeling as the 1970s began, and it was a decade that was proving to be equally as disastrous for the U.S. empire as the 1960s.
Now, here it says the 1970s were marked by important events such as the August 29, 1970 Chicano Moratorium March in East Los Angeles.
Oh, the Sandinistas!
I remember that!
Of course, these people are complete and utter leftists.
They, of course, accuse the FBI or counterintelpro against them or infiltrating them so they could be deactivated.
They had basically created this Chicano movement, and the Union del Barrio was founded in the summer of 1981.
I think there is also a document of their foundation here.
This is the very foundation of Union del Barrio, and the purpose statement, Union del Barrio is an organization of organizers, and It is to counter the colonization of our people and then to defend La Raza.
So this is completely racist.
It is like, of course, a sort of Black Lives Matter in a Hispano-American setup.
How did the Jesuits fit this?
They control the law.
They get them out of trouble.
And they are pushing for the immigration policies of the left, of course.
And they are a key group in what used to be known as the Catholicos por la Rasa.
Now, here, nobody wants to be, you know...
My grandfather was born in Chile.
I am half Italian and partly also South American.
But here, guys, we have to be very honest.
You cannot, you know, this Latinx students and all these illegal immigrants and everything that they are pushing is completely anti-American in essence.
And so I wanted to...
You're taking a live look at one of the protests underway in Los Angeles just a few hours after the mass immigration raids.
Chris Christie is live in Air 7 with the latest.
Chris.
That's right, Giovanna.
It's a major protest going on about two hours now.
Close to 1,000 people now wrapping around the detention facility between Alameda and Los Angeles Street.
They started on the front steps of the federal building at 300 Los Angeles, now marching down Aliso.
And the lead there is that cattle truck leading the pack as they make the turn onto Alameda Street.
The strategy here is to basically encircle the detention facility, which is that building right there, where we understand there are actually some people inside of the building.
So going around the detention facility and then doing all this to eventually free some criminals, I mean, and all this, of course, supported by the Democrats.
I mean, the...
And of course, this is what happened last night.
But there is also the testimony of some of these people, which I would like you to listen, which makes us understand really how anti-Trump they also all are, of course.
This parking lot where these federal agents are.
I'm not exactly sure what their motive is.
They're angry, first of all, that they're there in the first place.
We have not seen violence.
We did see someone arrested.
But for the most part, protesters have been shouting at the federal agents and taking pictures on their camera phones, obviously documenting.
We do have our reporter on the ground there, Zach Boeto.
If we could bring him in.
Zach, can you give us a location?
Is this near the federal building?
We're here on North Hill Street and Alpine in Chinatown, and it's a very active scene here at 11:30 at night.
We haven't seen any violence here, and you spoke on it over on CBS LA.
Of course, the violence, they don't show on the TV.
only show the people are talking you know against this initiative in their interviews people like this Alpine in Chinatown and it's a very active scene here at 11:30 Let's see what they say.
Institutes and friends, so we want them to move on so that the tension can die down here because right now it seems like it's starting to pick up.
They're reacting to Mayor Karen Bass saying that they don't want ICE in the neighborhoods here in Los Angeles.
I mean, the mayor says they don't want ICE.
Then you have officials from the Democratic Party who condemn all this.
And obviously these people then feel they can do whatever they want in the streets, block the whole life of LA.
From other federal officials saying that, you know, those federal orders trump those local orders.
Well, one of the things is that there's also, we have state laws and city laws that protect People here, but at the same time, Donald Trump ordered ICE into the city.
We have also a right to basically not cooperate with our law enforcement to help them detain people, but people also have a right to be on the streets, to be here to actively protest and use their First Amendment rights.
But this all started with Donald Trump saying he was going after criminals.
What I've heard today that he went after kids, parents, when they're attending their kids' graduations, people that were working in the fashion district, people that showed up, people who had asylum, received asylum, were going through the process, showed up to court like they've done over and over, and were taken to the basement and arrested.
So right now they're doing more to spread fear, and they're not keeping everybody safe.
They're trying to say that they're keeping us safe by arresting a seamstress in the fashion district.
That's just insane.
I'm here to observe, to see what happens, but also try to make sure that people stay safe.
Okay, Congressman, it sounds like Pat Harvey, our main anchor, wants to ask a question.
Pat, go ahead.
We're listening.
Yes, thank you so much, Zach.
I just wanted to know if you could ask Representative Gomez, does he know why they are there right now?
Because we have heard different information that the protesters there believe that they are about to stage more raids tonight.
I mean, but the protesters are part of a clearly Marxist group, which is completely anti-democratic, revolutionary.
You see, there is a connection here.
I mean, the Union del Barrio has really A big connection, of course, with the Catholic Church.
The Catholic Church and the Jesuits have been involved with the Mexican migrant families for a long time.
And this is what we have here.
They say that we create negative stereotypes, but in reality, guys, you need to understand there is people who are here legally and people who are here illegally.
And if you just come here illegally, unfortunately, California tends to give them everything.
And people like me who went through the whole process to become an American citizen in the legal way, they feel like they have suffered an injustice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
It's not fair for the people that obey the law and do exactly what the law states and then they come in and they're not obeying the law and they think they can just do all these illegal things and get away with it.
You can't.
You shouldn't.
The Jesuits have always been able to push and support this whole activism within the Mexican-Americans to empower them.
Now the Chicano movement emerged from the 1960s this way and of course The involvement is also with educational institutes like the Loyola Marymount University.
And, of course, there is also the involvement of the Ignatian Solidarity Network, which continues to this day to help and support these people, even the illegal immigrants in their quest.
Now in my book, volume 12, I explain how they The Jesuits are at the very heart of this problem.
That's why this book is not an historical essay, but it's much more.
And this book is a book that will make you understand the influence.
That the Jesuits and the Catholic Church have.
Of course, if you bring into this country millions of Catholics from Central and South America, you change the political landscape and also the religious landscape.
And this, for them, is of benefit.
That's what they want to do.
That's what they want.
And they are, like we said, they are almost like a Mexican version of Black Lives Matter.
A Mexican version of Black Lives Matter that, of course, the Democratic Party now wants to unleash and with the support of Newsom.
He just goes back and forth, doesn't he?
When it fits him, he just moves around and does whatever.
When he wants to be this way, he'll do that and say this.
Yeah, I mean, saying that ISIS is terrorizing the communities and all that.
I don't believe any of that.
They spread, basically, this whole organization, Uno del Barrio.
Involved all these people and got to even assault the detention center because they spread the news that there were 200 people that were kept in the detention center that shouldn't have been there.
And then at one point the police was even forced to intervene, even if the police didn't want to intervene, because the situation was going out of time.
And I repeat, this whole thing is, I mean, compared to what the left is trying to imply, all the poor immigrants, a lot of these people are criminals.
A lot of these people are criminals.
And, you know, the fact that the police in riot gear have to storm the protesters to protect a detention facility is...
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I mean, I had a friend in Santa Monica who had to leave Santa Monica, you remember, Patrick, because they destroyed his business.
They took from his business all of his, you know, he had some hemp kind of clothing.
And they stole it.
So now, chaos shortly erupted yesterday in the streets outside the Edward Arroybal Federal Building and United States Courthouse, which is a place that we often go through when we go to that other place.
Ronald Reagan Building.
Yeah, I mean, these are places that me and Christy often go to and that are very You just have to get it on a good day or a bad day.
You can get it on a really bad day, and it looks very, very bad.
But the thing is that they hate the cops, they hate Trump, and they make it very clear that their hate for Trump and for the cops, it's all over the place.
I want to show you here.
Some things that they have written all over the place.
It's horrible.
It's just so horrible.
It's just so, so evil.
Death to cops.
And she's so evil.
Or to America.
I mean, these people are anti-Americans.
They don't even spell America the way it should be spelled.
They don't care.
It's like a communist way to spell something.
Absolutely.
We're not communist.
We're everything that's not communist.
The Union del Barrio says they continue their fight for Chicano liberation.
Chicano liberation from what?
I don't understand these people.
Do they want to go back to their roots?
They simply can cross the border and go back from where they came from.
This is, I mean, please read here.
San Diego's historic neighborhood of Barrio Logan is home of an assortment of organizations that serve the unique needs of the community.
However, few are as integrally bonded to the community and its historic struggle as Union del Barrio.
union del barrio was the one that went all the way to la and then it says here for 40 years you know the barriers being at the forefront leading the charge of resistance against border patrol and police violence I mean, they have been, you know, this is incredible.
And they can trace their roots directly to the Chicano movements of the 1960s and 70s.
Does Chicanos stand for something?
Yes, they are, the Mexican-Americans.
they are the chicanos i mean i like i said i don't want to make this a race thing in any way shape or form but of course if you come here and then you push your ethnic identity with a political identity you see in the 1960s you
So then the Hispanic people felt in what is known as the Barrios, which is basically a theory developed by Chicano scholars, one called Albert Camarillo and Richard Greensford.
That they were ethnically segregated in these neighborhoods, the Latinos.
And that's where the Chicanos, Latinos of the United States, started to create their own identity.
And this identity, though, I mean, the Chicago movement, it's very much excited on masculine pride, machismo, and at times very homophobic.
Now that they are actually pushed by the left, it seems it kind of contradicts a bit of their identity.
In any case, in the 2000s, you know, they have this anti-imperialism.
They built solidarity with the undocumented migrants.
That's where, and it became more important, despite issues of legal status and economy, I mean, it became really important to support undocumented migrants, something that previously they didn't do.
And, of course, they mix with other Latinos, but the etymology of the term Chicano is still a subject to debate.
so people don't really know for sure but there was a place I think it comes from some believe that basically is a language derivative of an older word and this derivative is from a Mexican word and the word Chicano may also derive from the syllable of Mexicano,
Mexican Mixed with something else.
And, of course, Chicano, like Mexicano.
kind of like But there was a town also known as Chicana.
I was just wondering where it came from.
There was a town that apparently also was named Chicana.
But in any case, The fact that they are revolutionary, that their identity is not democratic in any way, shape or form.
It's like, I mean, they don't claim to be lovers of democracy or lovers of the American way.
They say very clearly on their website, and this here, I want you to read it because it's very clear.
Union del Barrio is convinced that we need a political revolution.
The only possibility we have for securing a better future is to win our self-determination as people.
Well, then they can go back to Mexico and do that, because this is America.
That's what I don't understand.
Yeah, this is America, and that's it.
But that is, that's supposed to be, you know, since 1981, Yonder Barrios led the struggle to resist migrant police violence and blah, blah, blah.
I mean, we call it Nuestra America and then we fight for La Raza, for our race.
Go back to Mexico if you're fighting for your race.
It's just, again, this is insane.
So, I mean, and the Jesuits, of course, are behind it all.
And they have been supporting it.
And, of course, now there is also the fact that Trump wants to cut the support to some of these universities because of the diversity, equity and inclusion.
And so they are very upset.
So they are very upset and they are making known the fact that they are upset.
I can show you some of the articles here.
California educators protest Trump proposed cuts for English learners.
With all that respect, if you come in this country, why should we pay for you learning English?
Nobody taught me to speak Italian when I was in Italy, that's for sure.
I had to learn on my own, and nobody spoke English.
The 10th of February, Magdalene Lavande, director of the Center for Equity for English Learning, received a letter from the U.S. Department of Education, terminating the grant and claiming that it violated Trump's order on diversity, equity and inclusion.
So they are now fighting also that.
They're fighting everything, every single thing.
And this is all backed by the Jesuits.
I mean, let me show you the other things that, of course, here make it very clear that the Jesuits are behind it all because otherwise people wouldn't say we are conspiracy theorists.
No.
The Center for Equity for English Learners is at Loyola Marymount University.
Incredible.
And guys, I think that people really need to understand the importance that the Jesuits have in this process and the fact that they are definitely behind all this.
So people who don't believe me, they can just go and check.
Of course, Wigivet is not the best source where to find information, but here it says it's a private Jesuit.
Anyway, in Los Angeles, arose 10,000 undergraduate and graduate students, making it the largest Catholic university on the west coast of the United States.
And it's a university that is particularly close to the Chicano community.
So, I mean, they are trying.
to destroy America as we know it, so they can transform it in something else.
And regardless of what people might think of this new pope, because you know he's American, he's this and that, but remember that this pope has been placed there by a Jesuit, who is Pope Francis, and he comes from Villanova University, which is another important education,
Now, the development of the whole Chicano movement will not have happened without the support of the Jesuits, because the Loyola Law Students, the Chicano Law Students Association at Loyola Marymount College has been very important, and the Jesuits have also been very important in the development of La Raza, which was La Raza.
Like you say, La Ratta in Italian.
The Race is a magazine that played a significant role in disseminating information and fostering a community amongst the activists of the Chicano community.
And, of course, all of this goes in what the Jesuits called the Ignazian values, like I explained in my book.
There is an article here in particular that came out in the summer of 2020 during the George Floyd thing that gives us an idea, no?
Ignatian family cries out for racial justice.
and you see all the protesters lying there, and then you have being black in America should not be, And this is basically how can the Catholic Church show that it's listening?
Racism is race.
Prejudice plus power.
This is the Jesuits who are fomenting and they are participating with protests.
Outside the White House back then, during Trump's first term, this is the Jesuits.
And they made a big thing about, you know, in Detroit, the Black clergy led march yesterday.
The Jesuits participated back then, actively.
That's insane.
and people need to know this that's why this this book That's 25 years!
25 years!
And before that, there was only one book in 1999.
that was Sussi a guy who actually made a discreetly good book on the topic but then the only other book was in the 1986 Jesuits of of of
So, the fact that they are, the Jesuits are persisting in this modality here, the only reason for racism's persistence is that white people continue to benefit from it.
This is what the Jesuits are saying.
I'm such bologna.
I don't know if it's a Jesuit, but he teaches at the Fordham University.
And then you have, of course, this guy.
Who is a very known figure at Fordham University, which I actually mention in my book.
So the Jesuits, somebody says, did they help Leon Trotsky?
Well, if you read this book, maybe you will know it.
I mean, of course they have.
Leon Trotsky helped the very birth of the communist movement and the people who started the communist experiment on Le Commune together with the Grand Laus de France.
The Jesuits, before they were accepted by the Pope in Rome, they were actually founded in Paris.
Paris was the town where they experimented the first form of communism in the 19th century.
This is what actually happened.
It's historically proven.
To the Jesuits.
There's also another article that shows how the Jesuits view Trump right from the first time he was in office.
This is America the Jesuit Review.
It says, I was arrested protesting Trump's border policies.
The gospel call us to do more.
So these people...
is that a nine these people God doesn't give any of them beauty, that's for sure.
And these are basically, you know, and this is what we're fighting here.
So they are definitely one thing, socialism, and the Jesuits are one, because The very nature of communism, where it was first experimented in South America, in the Reducciones, that's where the Jesuits experimented in the Reducciones with the Guarani Indians, their first form of communism.
So it's all kinds of...
Then you have, of course, liberation theology.
In more recent times, after the Second Vatican Council, the Jesuits becoming more and more progressive, more and more aligned with the Marxist ideology.
But let's not forget that the very origins of communism can be found within the Jesuits themselves.
And the fact that they say that On the official Jesuit publication, Catholics have always been engaged in such acts of resistance to illuminating compatibility between the gospel and tragedies.
I mean, it's like they are aligning the gospel with Karl Marx.
And Karl Marx was antithetic to the gospel.
I mean, he was an atheist and a satanist.
So aside from the fifth class agents like Nancy Pelosi and many others, you have then the actual Jesuits themselves who work hand in hand with the communities that they want to,
Because that seems to be ultimately what they are doing.
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And now there is a lot of talk in regards It's almost like, you know, a distraction from others.
Matters of importance.
For example, I haven't heard neither one or the other talking about the fact that in this big beautiful bill you have a 10-year moratorium for the EI, which we were the first ones to denounce last Saturday, before Joe Rogan, before Alex Jones, before everybody else.
I said this show, at the end of last week's show, you can go and check it out.
That it was very dangerous to give a 10-year moratorium when the nature of this technology is so fast that, you know, you should actually suspend, like a lot of experts have called for a global suspension of all the experimentations at the end of March of this year, because if the situation continues, it could go out of control.
And once the gene is out of the box, there's no way of bringing CyberSatan back into the box.
And this is why the 10-year moratorium is something that we need to point out, even if, unfortunately, it seems that neither Elon Musk or Trump have been discussing it in any way, shape or form.
So, big, beautiful bill has this element that I think that Trump is an old guy who doesn't understand maybe that 10 years is an incredible span of time for The development of this technology and the possible takeover of this technology because when you see the AI self-replicating,
the AI blackmailing their own engineers, the AI acting rogue, well, then you know that we are close to something very dangerous.
Imagine!
Blackmailing.
Blackmailing.
It's completely insane.
But in regards to the clash between Elon Musk and Trump, Elon Musk's father, who is very much a Trumpian, spoke with El Arabiya.
And this is what he said.
Thank you very much indeed for joining us.
I can see you're in a departure lounge of an airport.
It's been a very eventful 24 hours.
First up, what was your immediate reaction when you saw the Twitter exchange last night between your son and the U.S. President?
Well, you know, what's happened is the, you know, the alphas have sort of cleared, I would say, the alphas have cleared the opposition.
And like most animals, elephant and, you know, You know, the different types of animals, lions and so forth, and humans are now looking to take on each other.
It seems a bit silly to me, but Elon is concerned about the money that is being given to Dems in order for them to vote for this bill.
He feels that's not the right thing to do, to give them into their schemes and somewhat...
But in order to get the bill passed, they have to meet the Dems' requirements.
That's what I understand.
and Elon is concerned about that.
Okay, do you think we've reached a point Do you think this is a bump in the road?
Or do you think this is the end of the road for the relationship between your son and Mr. Trump?
Just a bump in the road.
Yeah, it'll whistle out in a few days.
Do you sound confident they're going to be friends again?
Yes, of course.
Yes, of course.
Okay, so you, Chrissie, have a different idea.
Well, I don't think they're going to be friends anymore.
I hope not anyway.
I didn't like when they began talking to each other.
I'm not saying anything.
I said to myself that he's always been a very ambiguous figure, Elon Musk, because of his love for transhumanism.
I know, and I like Earth.
I don't want to go to Mars.
now Trump says that if Elon Musk will When did he say that?
In the last few hours, in a telephonic interview with NBC.
Do you think that they have really broke for good, that there is no possibility of them coming back together?
Well, I can't say.
I don't know what people are going to do.
But I hope they don't.
You actually hope they don't.
Yeah.
Because you don't I didn't find him to be, It just really, I didn't like any of it.
Now, it seems, though, that Elon Musk has erased his ex-post on Epstein.
Oh, amazing, but you can't do that because everybody already saw that.
They've already put it all over the nighttime.
Comedians are all like Kimmel.
We got to watch that.
When was that last night?
The nuclear blast.
The nuclear blast.
They're just enjoying this so much.
If anything, Elon should be really ashamed of himself for doing this to the President of the United States.
I mean, people don't get to go into the Oval Office.
That is such a privilege.
I mean, anyway, whatever.
I'm not going to do what everybody else is doing.
I just don't care.
I'm just glad that he's away from Trump, that's all.
Okay, okay, okay.
Now, the godfather of the AI, let's go back to the AI because that's a subject which I think is very relevant for a future, more relevant than this squabble between Trump and Musk.
He's very alarmed.
He says, as advanced systems quickly learning to lie, deceive, blackmail, and hack, I'm deeply concerned by the behaviors that unrestrained genetic AI systems are already beginning to exhibit.
Chrissy, will you read this?
A key artificial intelligence pioneer is concerned by the technology's growing propensity to lie and deceive, and he's founding his own non-profit To curb such behavior.
In a blog post announcing Law Zero, the new nonprofit venture AI go-father, Yoshio Benjo, said that he has grown deeply concerned that AI models become even more powerful and deceptive.
This organization has been created in response to evidence that today's frontier AI models have growing dangerous capabilities and behaviors.
The world's most cited computer scientists wrote, including deception, cheating, lying, hacking, self-preservation, and more generally, goal misalignment.
Now, you know that I have dedicated a whole trilogy to the Cyber Satan.
From early 2019, with the publication of Confessions of Illuminati, Volume 6.66, and then continuing with Volume 7 and then Volume 9, I created a trilogy that was really ahead of its time and it's still ahead of its time because it's denouncing this connection with the demonic and also the danger.
that this AI thing might have for mankind.
And, of course, the connections with the Jesuits, the connections with the Masonic world.
We have actually done a whole show last week.
we were pretty much discussing certain topics that we found relevant always in regards to cyber Satan so I think that people need to really
Somebody is saying, Christy, the problem is that bad people are pushing ahead with these plans with malintent.
If the good don't fight and win on that level, the bad wins.
I agree, I agree.
Unfortunately, yes, that's complete.
It's very difficult because it seems like there is nobody that wants to fight something like the AI development, because if you fight it, then you will get China to develop it on its own.
So they say we will have to still develop it here in the US so we don't fall behind China.
But this is really a very dangerous race.
A little bit like the Manhattan Project, a little bit like when we went and developed all those weapons that now are always in the back of our minds when we're talking about nuclear Armageddon.
Because now we have Russia with over 5,000, 6,000, whatever nukes they have.
And then we have the US around 5,000.
then we have China which is starting to develop their own nuclear arsenal and then we have other countries that are a little bit more
like Pakistan, this kind of facility which we don't really trust in the hands of people.
Fortunately, like Trump said the other day, he managed to bring Pakistan and India to their senses before they will unleash something more dangerous like nuclear confrontation between the two parts as both India and Pakistan are both nuclear countries.
Now, Steve Bannon claims that Elon Musk is actually a Chinese agent.
Have you heard about that?
No, but it could be.
He definitely has a lot of interest in China, though I'm not sure.
I mean, you can't say anything about somebody unless you know it's a fact.
He shouldn't even be saying that about him.
But he's well informed, usually, Steve Bannon.
We saw him also with the Vatican.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean...
But the thing is that...
So, I mean, he's damaging his business on all sides, you know.
His position has been damaging his business when he embraced Trump and the MAGA.
I think these people with all this money, they have these huge egos and they want things the way they want them.
And that's what we're seeing.
We're seeing his ego.
And then, you know, I think that he, maybe he realized what he did.
Like, I don't know, because I'm just going...
I just listen to the news when you say it.
I don't really go into...
Who do you think has a bigger ego?
Trump or Elon Musk?
I think you have to have a big ego and have a lot of confidence to do the things that Trump wants to do.
And so, I mean, the ego is a thing you have to really...
God doesn't want you to have the big, big ego, you know?
So it's not...
I know that.
But whatever.
Whatever.
If he does the right things, we're still waiting to see what's going to happen.
I mean, we're still on this let's see what happens stage.
I think everybody has faith that he's going to do what he said he's going to do.
I'm talking about Trump.
Okay, let's see what Trump has just said in the last few hours regarding this whole debacle.
And let's see what is his latest position before, of course, closing this show, as you all know, with that usual dance.
Money would be to cancel some of Musk's contracts How seriously are you considering that?
Well, we'll take a look at everything.
I'll look at everything.
He's got a lot of money.
He gets a lot of subsidy.
So we'll take a look at that.
Only if it's fair.
Only if it's fair for him and for the country.
I would certainly think about it, yeah.
But it has to be fair.
Mr President, would you consider reopening investigations into his companies?
there are a bunch of investigations.
I didn't know that they had any, you know, they had to, I had no idea.
Excuse me.
I have no idea whether or not they had investigations.
What's your view on Elon Musk as of today?
I mean, have you heard from him at all as your team?
Honestly, I've been so busy working on China, working on Russia, working on Iran, working on so many You know, I just wish him well.
Not thinking about Elon, but he wishes him well.
And we wish you well, guys.
Of course, we will see you during the week with a show that will be more on the esoteric side.
We want to thank all those people who have made my latest book a bestseller.
I want to actually show...
Let me see here if I can show you exactly what this book is doing at the moment.
If you can, if you have purchased this book, please leave a review because the Jesuits, of course, will love To send this book down in the ratings.
And so we're actually asking you who have purchased this book to leave a five-star review because this book deserves a five-star review.
I mean, people who have purchased this book have lived great reviews.
And some people, of course.
That's fake.
I reported it, but imagine Amazon did nothing.
And we make them, you know, they They claim that this is only an historic book, an historical essay.
It's current and it's like relevant and everybody should read it.
And so they just write something that will try to discourage people.
But hopefully if they've made it to your book, they're smart enough and know that.
Yeah.
That's well said, Christy.
Absolutely.
Well, guys, me and Christy will go and eat the leftovers of our pizza that you can learn how to make with the Zagami Family Cookbook.
You can do it, too.
And, of course, we can have a day!
Have a day!
In that time, our world has taken so many steps in the wrong direction.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is the guy who actually Did also the book cover, the excellent book cover for this book.
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