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May 7, 2025 - The Leo Zagami Show
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Welcome back to Friday, and with me, Chantal, your hostess with the mostest awesome guests and viewers.
I say it all the time.
Welcome to all the Wrenches with Wrenches.
So good to see you all here, everybody.
And of course, we have with us again tonight our favourite Italian, Mr Leo.
And we're going to be talking about his new book.
And I'm going to read it out because it's quite long.
Volume 12, right?
Confessions of an Illuminati, Volume 12. History, Secret Societies, and the Politics of the Jesuit New World Order and the Luciferian Court.
So this is the book that we were talking about that we're going to be doing the book club with Leo.
So that's going to be happening towards the...
Last two weeks of March.
May.
Gosh.
May.
May.
I thought we were in March.
Oh, my goodness.
May.
But I'll let you know final dates.
And, yeah, so how are we going to work it?
And I know Leo's going to chat a little bit more now.
Is to purchase a copy of Leo's book, either on Kindle or hard copy.
We'll give you the links and stuff now.
And then to read the book.
And then we'll have a book club with Leo sometime towards the end of May, and then he'll answer any questions.
We'll do it live.
So you can do it there.
He will be there live to answer your questions.
So I think that'll be pretty cool.
Yeah, and just enjoy the show.
We're going to be doing a little brief intro on his book this evening.
Nothing is brief, though, but we're going to do it anyway.
Thank you for having me on, and hello to all the solutions!
Soul-o-sions!
Okay, it's a pleasure, as usual, to present my last book, and this is actually the last installment of the Confessions Series.
There's not going to be any more confessions, because, I mean, 12 books is like an encyclopedia of its own.
There is going to be, of course...
God willing, other Leo Zagami books.
But this is the completion of a project which started a long time ago.
It was first published in the Illuminati Confession series.
It was first published in Japan, then in Italy, then eventually in 2015 it landed here in the United States of America.
And since then, of course, it has followed me in my literary career.
In 2012, we have the book that really shows you the controllers of the controllers.
I mean, it's like the controllers of the puppeteers that are always discussed, you know, the Luminati, the Freemasons, the Bilderberg, the World Economic Forum.
These are the ultimate controllers.
Yes, these are the ones who actually are behind the scenes controlling the controllers.
And, of course, we had the recent death of Pope Francis, which, of course, kept me working a little bit extra on the book until the last minute because I wanted to get all the information necessary.
also contextualize the book in a way and it really shows you
The P2 Lodge and Silvio Berlusconi, the late Silvio Berlusconi, we have information regarding the whole history and tradition of the Jesuits, how they work as the Vatican intelligence for almost 500 years since...
Their foundation, how they have been collaborating and working in the Far East with China, Japan, India, and they are behind the actual creation of what is known as globalization.
And so this book is very important, very relevant.
It has also a whole chapter to explain how Pope Francis, the late Pope Francis, rigged his conclave that is now going to elect the new pope and rewrote people.
So this is a very timely book.
I wanted to actually Have Pope Francis alive for the publishing of this book because I thought after this book he will faint and never to be seen again.
But unfortunately...
He definitely knew the book was coming, Leo.
He thought he was going to exit quickly.
Absolutely.
I mean, you have to understand that this book is a rarity in itself.
In the last years, there has not really been any researchers who have published books exposing the Jesuits.
Think about it.
The last one...
Because probably in the 1980s we had Father Malachi Martin, a former Jesuit.
We had, of course, in the year 2000, Eric John Phelps with Vatican Assassins.
But nobody has the courage to challenge the Jesuits.
Because challenging the Jesuits is a nightmare.
They're in charge of the education.
They are the ones who will debunk you in a second if you say something wrong.
Even if you get a little...
So for me, it was actually important to leave it as the last volume of my confession because I wanted to also feel I could do a good job.
I feel that I was, you know, acquainted enough with my literary skills to really deliver the ultimate nail in the coffin.
And it was the coffin of Pope Francis.
So, of course, we're sure.
Exactly.
I was going to say, Leo, the timing is just too perfect, right?
And isn't it just perfect timing that he died?
Chantel, that all my books have always been guided by God, first of all, and they have come out in a perfect timing.
Let's imagine, for example, when I was inspired to do volume 10 and I kind of got the push with what happened on the 7th of October, which, of course, was the dramatic events we saw in Israel that led to the war in Gaza, but also volume 9, volume 7 and 6, part of...
The cyber-Satan trilogy, which in itself also is very much connected with the work of the Jesuits, of Pope Francis, but it's also connected with, as you know, the development of the AI from extraterrestrial, extradimensional beings that in some way have...
So I think that in our book club, by starting with volume 12 and then descending all the way to one, you know, in our series, We will be able to really have the most complete perspective.
That's why I invite everybody who wants to participate to acquire a copy in advance because only in that way they will be able to do questions.
You know, don't think it's a freebie you can get the book.
Apart from the fact that to actually summarize in an hour or so.
A book which is this big is impossible, and so you will eventually just skim through the various subjects.
But instead, if you have read the book and you're capable of actually...
You know, asking Leo Zagami directly, what is it about this?
What is it about that?
We might be able to go in a deep dive into certain subjects, and we could really arrive to an unprecedented analysis.
So I'm very much looking forward to this Book Club project, which we are putting together, as well as, of course, our monthly meet-up and gathering with all your viewers that I see here in the chat.
They're always very nice.
In regards to this latest book, the subjects, like I said, are of an historic nature at the beginning, but they also touch the contemporary history, which is not only of this church, because the people, you know, when they think about the Jesuits, they think about a bunch of priests without really understanding that the Jesuits have, of course...
Their own four vows.
So the people who took these four vows, some of them take only three vows, for example.
There is this whole history of the Jesuits, which is marked on the beginning of the Counter-Reformation, and that's why they got accepted by the Pope after the actual founder was arrested several times by the Inquisition for being a member of the Alombrados, the Illuminati himself.
So when eventually in 1540 was accepted, it was at the eve of one of the most important events of the Catholic Church, the Council of Trent, which was built to counteract what was happening with Protestantism.
And, of course, the first enemy was Queen Elizabeth, and Queen Elizabeth created her first intelligence service with John Dee, and then later on we have Sir Francis Bacon, all these people that were involved with Of course, the Anglican Church at its origins was considered very dangerous, and the Jesuits wanted to kill Queen Elizabeth.
So when the 007 code was created by John D himself, it was to counteract the Jesuits, the Jesuits who had infiltrated already the court of Queen Elizabeth, but the Jesuits who were not simply priests.
That's why they got accepted in 1540, because there was This fourth vow of the Jesuits, which was unprecedented, meaning that they will give complete and utter obedience to the Pope, regardless of the faith, regardless of Jesus.
Jesus wasn't as important as the Pope in the fourth vow.
If you take the fourth vow as a Jesuit, You are giving yourself to a life of intrigue, of times, of things that are contrary to the ethics and morals of the Catholicism.
What is the fourth vow?
Now, when Ignacio Loyola, the founder, went and proposed his order, there was a time in which the order in charge of the Inquisition was the Dominican order, but they were not really military.
There was a kind of a gap, a vacuum created by the persecution of the Knights Templars.
The Knights Templars had been abolished by the papacy a couple of centuries earlier, and at that point they needed a military religious order, but it couldn't be formally known as military, though.
The head was a general, because still to this day, it's known as the superior general, the head of the Jesuits.
It wasn't a monk warrior that would go around with a sword like the tempers and kill people on occasion and defend the church also in battles like the Crusades.
It was much more insidious.
The nature of the Jesuits was they might kill, but they might do it...
In a more insidious way, a bit resembling maybe the Ash Ashins that we saw when we discussed the Knights Templars, you know, that were inspirational for the Knights Templars.
However, the mission, as we know, of the Knights Templars, the main mission was banking.
And that banking mission, which established them as one of the, you know, the first bankers, basically, in Europe, Who created things like checks that were unknown until then.
It wasn't the same mission as the Jesuits because the Jesuits saw what happened with the banking system and also it wasn't a novelty anymore and it couldn't be controlled anymore.
It was like the genie got out of the bottle.
So their mission was instead education.
Educating the elite.
Educating the masses.
Writing the historic narrative.
Becoming in charge of that historic narrative through the control of universities that became prestigious.
They were inspired, of course, by the Knights Templars.
And for that reason, they actually followed the Knights Templar history and they decided to found their first college in the city of Messina in Sicily, which was an important Templar town where my family comes from.
My father was born there and my family actually was involved also with the first college of the Jesuits, as I say in my book.
At that point, the second college was founded in Rome and was known as the Collegium Romanum.
But the Collegium Romanum was founded in itself as a particularity because, you see, the Jesuits, just like nice tempers, were worshipping the Holy Mary, but in reality they were worshipping Isis, the Mother Goddess.
Right.
So they decided to build their Collegium Romano on the relics of the biggest temple of Isis in ancient Rome.
And at that point, their first mission wasn't really, of course, to preach the gospel around the world.
They didn't care about that.
The first mission was given by Ignacio Loyola to his associates.
There were other six associates.
In total, in 1534, in Paris, on Montmartre.
They founded the Jesuits before being accepted by the Pope then in 1540.
In the University of Paris, that is the original nucleus of the Jesuits was formed.
But remember, up until the acceptance by the Pope, they were always falling into trouble with the Inquisition.
So they were like, kind of like, you know.
Then at one point the Pope understood that these people could actually...
set the purpose because they were knowledgeable with the occult.
They could actually infiltrate and they could counteract the Reformation.
They were much more insidious than the Dominicans and so they ended up in the end they actually took over the Inquisition.
So that was quite a paradox, you know, from being persecuted to taking over the Inquisition.
Yeah.
Isn't it interesting that we always see that a lot, though, Leo?
You know, you see the victim become the villain.
Like, really, you know, from being the persecuted ones, you now become the persecutor.
That happens a lot.
I mean, that's just interesting human psychology, actually.
It happens in Africa, too.
You know, when you look at the way that Africa was colonized, especially in Belgium, the DRC, the Congo, Leipold.
He was known to be one of the most prolific colonizers, but yet when he left, the guys who took over, the African people, African government, treated their own people ten times worse than what the colonizers...
It's actually incredible.
Why do you think that happens?
I mean, I'm just interested.
It's really a psychological thing.
And in fact, if you think about it, when it comes to racism, even in South Africa, the results are pretty clear.
You get from being the persecuted to the persecutor.
And that's why now we have white people persecuted in South Africa.
You know, and this happens also in the United States of America today.
And that's also another thing which is very important in my book in Volume 12. The immigration policies that were inspired by the Jesuits and their plan to take over this incredible nation that has been long in the making.
But also their willingness...
To let millions of undocumented immigrants just because they come from Catholic countries that can change the geopolitical structure of the whole nation.
And at the same time, you know, letting the descendants of black slaves start demanding money for what their ancestors of the white men did.
I mean, reparations is BS.
But the Jesuits actually started this process themselves.
They were slave owners.
And so the first thing that they did before supporting this whole project of reparations, which would send bankrupt the whole of America if it was ever implemented, was to actually say, oh, we're very sorry for what we did.
And then they're very sorry, sorry.
We're very sorry, but you never gave any money, all your sorries.
And anyway, the Jesuits have been involved right at the start of the United States of America.
And my book, my new book, describes how, because that was the period in which they were suppressed.
The actual Jesuit father superior was arrested and put in Castel Sant 'Angelo, which is the famous...
A place where all the people who were arrested by the Inquisition were put.
And at that point, he had a pope, though, a pope that in reality was kind of wanting to get the Jesuits back in their place.
Remember, the Jesuits from 1773, but let's say from 1760-61 onwards in various countries, France, Portugal, Spain.
They started to be expelled.
They started to be feared as dangerous because they saw that this is not a religious order.
This is something more sinister at work.
And so, until later on, when they were eventually let back into the Vatican...
They were actually living under the protection of the Russian Orthodox Empress, which is kind of a paradox.
But the Russians understood the nature of the Jesuits.
So they simply said, OK, we make a deal.
You nominate a general of the Jesuits who is Russian and we let you.
Immediately after this deal finished and they went back into the Vatican, they kicked them out of Russia immediately.
So, I mean, it didn't last that long.
The suppression of the Jesuits is that period in history which is not really well known because the Jesuits don't want to admit that they were actually kicked out of the Vatican.
I mean, it's a pretty heavy thing to say.
The suppression of the Society of Jesus was the removal of all the Jesuits from Western Europe and their respective colonies.
And in South America, they had scared maybe some monarchs with their communist experiments, because they were the ones who made the first experiments in communism, in the reducciones, the red actions, where they took this...
Indigenous populations, and they subject them to an experiment in communism, where everybody was the same, was labelled in a society, though, where, of course, the Jesuit fathers were seen as the fathers who would take care of you.
So then these indigenous people will be kind of brought up in this setup where there was no real democracy.
It was a monarchy in the hands of the Jesuits.
But having said this...
The persecution starts in 1759.
We can see that in 1773, of course, the Vatican intervenes, but before that, the Jesuits were seriously expelled from the Portuguese Empire in 1759, in France in 1764, and already in 1761, they started closing their colleges and stuff.
Then there was the two Sicilies, Malta, Parma in 1767, in Austria and Hungary in 1782.
They were not the typical religious order.
This is an order of people who created this whole thing.
You were asking me before about the fourth vow.
The fourth vow is unique to the Jesuits because it gives a special obedience to the Pope regarding their missions.
They have the first three vows, which are taken by ordinary Jesuits, which are of poverty, of custody and obedience.
You also have The coadjutors, which are basically Jesuits who have decided not to become priests, but live as Jesuits amongst the Jesuits, and they're known as coadjutors.
And still to this day they exist.
And then you have the fifth class.
Now that's where you have the Nancy Pelosi of the situation.
That's where you have the politician, the businessman.
They don't take the vows like the religious ones, but the fifth class...
He answers directly to the Black Pope in their headquarters in Rome, which is known as Borgo Santo Spirito.
Who's the Black Pope?
The Black Pope is the head of the Jesuits.
What's his name?
At the moment it's Arturo Sosa, who is a Venezuelan guy, but in my book I explain how the real revolutionary Black Pope that changed the course of the Jesuits in the last 50 years, 60 years, was Padre Pedro Arrupe, a Spanier, who used to say: "A Spaniard founded the Jesuits, I might even destroy them!"
He was like a kind of crazy guy in the sense.
Pedro Arrupe embraced the values of the Second Vatican Council, which were basically a crossover between Masonic and Jesuit values, and the Jesuits became more and more Marxist by the minute after the Second Vatican Council.
They pushed for liberation theology, charismatic movements, and all that.
And what happens is that at that point, John Paul II, who had been living in a communist country, who feared communism, He saw what was happening in the Jesuits and in the early 80s he wanted to send a commissioner and investigate and change the history of the Jesuits by nominating an external commissioner to preside over this thing because he saw them as dangerous.
They were kind of merging with Freemasonry.
They were, you know, they were Jesuits who were openly Freemasons as well as Jesuits more and more.
It was becoming a problem, but it was becoming also something that the Jesuit Pope loved very much because he always wanted to control Freemasonry, and he actually always managed to control Freemasonry from the very origins.
Now, you see, in this book, I explain how the Jesuits were behind the foundations, for example, of the ancient and accepted Scottish Rite, how the Jesuits influenced the Illuminati, and now...
I spoke only a couple of days ago, after I published my book, immediately I was contacted by one, I don't want to say the name, because he's one of the most known Masonic historians, who told me, well, Leo, I actually sent a guide to the Vatican archives who is confirming that what you're saying is true.
There was a lodge in the 1730s full of Jesuits, clergy, that was known as the Lodge of Saint Edward.
And they were behind the foundation of the first degrees that became eventually the high degrees of the ancient and accepted Scottish Rite.
So they confirmed this to me.
And I mean, I don't want to say the name, but I say it's one of the most eminent historians and one of the few people who has access to all the Masonic archives on the planet.
And he was there confirming me that and said, don't you think it's funny?
And I said, well, funny.
I mean, both the church as well as Freemasonry is going to get a big shock if this news starts to come out.
And so I'm very glad that God has guided me through making this book, which is also the fruit of my experience.
You see, when I was talking to my mother the other day, you have to understand that the Lyon family has been involved, and this I show also in the book.
Historically, we had one of the First Knights Templars to arrive in Scotland, heading those Templars who were kicked out of the Templars, and then merging together with the Sinclairs.
So the Lyon family and the Sinclairs constitute the base for the Eredome of Kilwinning, which is considered the mother lodge of Freemasonry in the world.
In fact, one of the first Freemasons of the Grand Lodge of England was a Lyon family member, member of my family.
The actual way that things are moving, I showed you in the whole course the responsibility that I felt karmically.
And when I arrive at the end of the book, I don't want to spoil it because otherwise, you know, spoiler alert.
I want to spoil it.
It's very important what happens at the end of the book.
I revealed that the teacher of Pope Francis was actually a member of my family.
And he was a Lyon family member from Chile when he went to study there.
The master of novices and then the head of the province for Chile was both two brothers who are Lion family members, members of my family.
And so I felt this responsibility because, of course, it's written even in there.
I mean, if you don't believe me and the people be like, ah, ah, Zagami is making this up.
Well, guys, I'm not making this up.
You can simply go on.
The actual Wikipedia, for example, of this specific guy called Carlos Aldunate Lion.
I remember my grandfather was born in Chile and he was his cousin.
And Carlos Aldunate Lion, if you go on the Wikipedia, it says he was the teacher of Pope Francis.
His inspiration.
So, you see, when you have such a responsibility as I have, To have had people like Carlos Adornate Lion, who died only recently, in 2018.
Then the year after, also his brother, who was another important Jesuit, Jose Adornate Lion, who was the head of the Jesuits for Chile.
We're talking about a very important, I think, I mean, of course, he fought against Pinochet.
Maximum respect for that.
He was even awarded the National Prize.
I'm talking about Jose, not Carlos.
But Carlos was an exorcist.
He was also a guy who promoted the Catholic charismatic.
He was a little bit of a leftist.
That's the problem here.
And so I felt myself a responsibility.
Of course, I didn't spoil anything, guys, because when you go on the last chapter, your mind will be blown up with what happened at the Jesuit headquarters between me and...
The Jesuit general.
But that is something for the people who read the book.
Oh, no, Leo, you're really giving us some cliffhangers here tonight, aren't you?
Well, I'm explaining that this book is very important because it touches me personally, you see.
There were supporters of the Jacobites in the Lyon family.
There was a whole list of that.
It's actually...
A book that was published on the Lyon family that shows all the connection with Freemasonry and Templarism.
I didn't publish it.
It's a researcher and historian who did this.
I think I have it somewhere.
Eventually I'll give you the title.
I cite it, though, in my book, Volume 12. I think it's very important for people to understand that at times you are born for a reason.
And my reason was to, it's like my mother said, well, nobody can explain these things more than you because you were brought up in the Vatican, basically.
And so, you know, when people tell, you know, I said to my mother, there's a lot of, I was, you know, discussing the upcoming conclave and how they were reporting it on CBS or NBC.
And I see a lot of times, a lot of incongruences in their exposure, in their work, because...
And my mother said, obviously, they're not born and grown up in there.
You know, they don't know all the people you know inside there.
It's basically like, you know, that was my family.
I started my media career in the Vatican.
When I was only 13, I was given because of my good service as an altar boy, my first radio show in 1983, in December 1983.
So I started there, and then I conducted a TV show for a Catholic TV.
Which Monsignor Mario Pieracci, who then founded the SAT 2000, which is the official TV of the Episcopal Conference Center, of the Bishops' Conference in Italy, which is very important to this day.
So I started with the Catholic Church.
So for me to actually expose them, I had to respect one thing.
When I eventually...
This is the only thing I can tell you about the...
You know, without spoiling too much.
I had to promise to tell the truth.
They said, if you tell the truth, we will accept the truth as hard as it is.
That's it.
So I made that promise and I hope I maintain that promise because this book is going to be scrutinized even in the upcoming Piper Conclave and it's going to be definitely creating some waves.
Possibility is here for the Pope.
And that's where we can go now, if you want.
Just hang on.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
I want to just ask you something.
I want to backtrack a little bit to something you were saying earlier on.
You were talking about the Jesuits pretty much infiltrating everything.
So, am I right?
In assuming or thinking from what you're saying that a lot of the secret societies initially were not necessarily bad.
They probably were from the church or had religious tones that were really driving it.
But then are you saying that the Jesuits infiltrated a lot of the secret societies such as the Scottish Rite, etc.
Pretty much dirty then.
I would say in case of the Scottish Rite, they actually participated to the creation of it.
So it's a little bit different.
They actually materialized those degrees.
Because if you think about it, the upper degrees of these systems, and it's not only the ancient and accepted Scottish Rite, but also the Swedish Rite, as well as the York Rite, they are all entrenched with Neo-Templarism.
And Neo-Templarism was something that the Jesuits were kind of reproposing in a way so they could get...
Their grip on Freemasonry by bringing them back to the church in another way.
A little bit like when the Jesuits infiltrated the Rosicrucianism.
Rosicrucianism was born in a Protestant setup and it was fiercely anti-papal.
And they published these manifestos, which are very well known, the Rosicrucian manifestos.
And then the Jesuits said, wow, this is an opportunity.
The Rosicrucians are kind of bringing back that lost spirituality, which the Protestants are losing by giving up a lot of the worship that you have in the Catholic faith, you know?
So let's infiltrate the Rosicrucians.
And that was actually done in a very clever way by Athanasius Kircher, who was this Jesuit professor, who is also responsible, because you have to understand there is a big connection also between Jesuits and astronomy.
The first college, the Collegium Romanum, which I said was built upon the relics of the biggest temple of ISIS, was also the biggest astronomic center for centuries.
And then the mission that Jesuits gave, that Ignacio Loyola immediately gave to his other six disciples was, you go to Japan, you go to Tibet, you go to India, you go to China.
It wasn't you go to, I don't know, Germany.
They already were all over.
They could get to Germany.
Of course, they did that.
Ignacio Royola sent to Germany a very powerful contingent, and they built right in Ingolstadt, where the Order of the Illuminati will be eventually founded by disciples of the Jesuits, by people who are studying with the Jesuits.
That was the University of Ingolstadt, which saw...
Adam Bishop, the founder of the Illuminati, became professor of canon law.
When the Jesuits were suppressed, they needed a professor of canon law, and he intervened.
However, the initial and the public image of the Illuminati was to be very much anti-Jesuit.
These are enemies, the enemies of enlightenment.
It was B.S. In reality, Adolf Knig, who was the left-right man of the guy who co-wrote some of the rituals of the Illuminati with Bishop, when he came out of it after three years, he accused Bishop of being a Jesuit agent and of leading astray his followers.
The whole Age of Enlightenment that might seem so distant from the Church, the Age of Reason, they are abandoning all the superstition of the Catholic Church.
In reality, it was very much connected to the Jesuits, which in the meantime have gone to China, and they took a lot of inspiration for the Age of Enlightenment from China.
I explain in my book, for example, how...
The art of war of Sun Tzu was done by Father Amiot, a Jesuit, who brought it to Europe and then was given to Napoleon.
So you see, the actual Jesuits were capable of going to China.
Did they spread the gospel there?
Well, not really.
They couldn't care less about the gospel.
They wanted to become advisors to the emperor.
The emperor saw what they were about and said, why don't you convince the Vatican to embrace Confucius?
And it took six popes until one pope said, no, we don't want Confucius in the Vatican.
We're not going to accept this mixed right with Confucius.
But there was also this attempt by the Jesuits to bring Confucius in the worship of the Vatican.
So imagine that.
What happens with the possibility of the first Chinese Filipino pope?
Because now we have two possibilities here.
We have either an African Pope, which would be Africa is the biggest continent in the sense that where Catholicism is spreading faster than any other continent.
So for the Catholic Church, Africa is very important at the moment.
But it's also very important for China.
At the same time, we have also the possibility of the first Asian Pope, Luis Antonio Tagle.
Who is a Filipino-Chinese who has always supported the Vatican-China deal, which I talk about in my book because that's a product of the Jesuits.
And it's a product of immense compromise.
It doesn't happen.
Hang on, hang on.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
I mean, when you're talking about the Vatican-China deal, what are we talking about here?
Okay, for those who don't know it, in the fall of 2018, The Vatican, after years of working behind the scenes, thanks to defrocked and disgraced pedophile Cardinal McCarrick, who eventually, you know, who actually was very much acquainted with the Chinese church.
They gave him disposal of the seminaries so he could have sex with all the young seminarians and rape them, rape right and center, because in any case, there was the Catholic patriotic church.
You have to understand, China...
It has a long history of Catholicism.
So when Mao Zedong arrived in 1949 and then eventually to win the civil war and establish the Chinese Communist Party as the leading party in China, there were a lot of Chinese who were Catholic and they found themselves persecuted because like other Christians, Mao Zedong was kicking them out.
He was even kicking out the Jesuits at one point, but not all of them.
At one point, there were some of them...
Who started to compromise.
And in 1957, they created the Chinese Catholic Patriotic Church, which kind of like, you know, you're creating the Chinese Patriotic Church and you start nominating bishops.
I don't know.
I mean, that is really far out stuff.
I mean, nominating bishops.
I mean, imagine Mao Zedong created an organization to nominate bishops.
And all this came together because The Chinese Catholics were communists, but they still wanted to be Catholics.
But they couldn't be Catholics with Rome, so they had to invent their own Catholic Church.
Out of thin air, they started to nominate themselves bishops, thanks to Mao Zedong.
And in 1957, this whole thing started.
Of course, the Vatican was like, this is heresy.
This is heresy, but then this heresy...
Kind of gathered momentum, you know?
And in the end, we jump on the second, we start having the first acceptance of some of the patriotic bishops.
Then Ratzinger also, because there was an underground church loyal to Rome.
And then there was the one loyal to the Communist Party.
And this was a war that was going on, literally.
So in 2018...
Thanks to a Jesuit Pope, the first Jesuit Pope, who started to receive billions from China, they came to an agreement.
Pope Francis will accept the bishops nominated by the Communist Party.
That was like the China Vatican deal taking place.
And it was renewed every two years.
And this Carbine or Tagle, like I explained in an article which is published today, He was one of the first proponents and supporters of this hideous thing.
That just smells so dirty.
How much money exchanged hands-on?
1.6 to 2 billion a year.
That's the amount of money they gave.
And it's of course an immense amount of money.
And they have bought the conclave, basically.
And that's why they might be able to actually nominate the first Chinese Filipino Pope directly from Beijing, not from Rome.
Rome will, of course, do the whole show.
It's going to last a couple of days.
The Pope is going to be nominated probably one week from now, on May 9th or the 10th.
And the Jesuits educated Father Tagle, who is not...
A Jesuit, but he's been educated by Jesuits.
This is also another important thing.
You will always find the Jesuits mixed up with other orders, meaning that they will infiltrate the Franciscans, they will infiltrate everything, even in their own church.
So they will invite, for example, a guy who studied in the Jesuits and say, well...
You have learned the Jesuit way.
Now you have become, I don't know, I make an example here, a Salesian or another order.
But you could still work for us.
You could still be of help for the great work of Saint Ignatius.
So that's, and even with Freemasonry, Freemasonry was kind from the beginning manipulated.
You know, when they started to create the foundations of...
There was these two symbols, very powerful, the two columns of the temple, Joachim and Boaz.
And so we say, you know, these are the actual, and I don't want to go into detail, spoiling for those who maybe want to be initiated into Freemasonry and want to have an experience, but in any case, Joachim stands for Ignatius and Boaz starts for Beato.
Which means blessed Ignatius.
And so even the actual basis of Freemasonry was kind of infiltrated and controlled.
But, I mean, in my book you will find also how the Vatican sent their most incredible Jesuit agent and artists to build up the most amazing pieces of art inside the U.S. Capitol.
How among the father founders there was the Carroll family, who was also former Jesuits, was one of the bishop, and the brother became one of the founding fathers, and the cousin also.
And they saw the land on which is built the Capitol Hill in Washington, which was known, Maryland was known as Rome.
The affluent of the river there was known as the Tiber.
It's all a cover-up.
The symbols that you see in the Congress, the two big fascist authority, you know, that's a fascist symbol.
You know, you have them there in Congress.
Guys, that is a symbol from ancient Rome.
I mean, the worship of...
Ancient Rome, of Isis, of Sibel.
In my book, I explain why the Pope decided to be buried in the Basilica di Santa Maria Maggiore.
It's not the first time I talk about this church.
In fact, the people who know my books know very well Volume 3, and in Volume 3, I explain how, and I make photos of the...
Funeral of the last Grand Master of the Neo-Templars, which I participated in 2012, in that church.
And there is me next to bishops and stuff in that book.
But Santa Maria Maggiore was built on the relics of Cybele, which was the other mother goddess with Isis in ancient Rome.
It's not because, you know, he had a particular...
And then, you know, the Salus Romani, the actual Holy Mary there, was made in copies and brought to China immediately by Matteo Ricci.
So he's connected with China also, that church, from the very start.
But that's what I'm saying.
This is not just China taking over the world in the last 10 or 15 years.
This has been...
This is part of the whole plan.
I mean, I'm sitting here and as you're speaking, I can kind of see what's been going on.
This has been part of the plan since forever, that this would go the way it is.
I mean, you know, if you look behind the scenes, Leo, and we see the guys that are really controlling the world.
Think about this for a moment.
This is about the power of Rome.
The actual worship in that church where Pope Francis wanted to be buried is representing the power of ancient Rome.
So this is a specific choice because the Jesuits, from that point where they are, you see, this is the image of St. Peter's Square.
If you go on the left of this, there is a road called...
That brings you directly to the headquarters of the Jesuits, Borgo Santo Spirito.
And from that road, you could actually see Santa Marta, which is the hotel where the Pope decided to stay rather than the Vatican rooms.
And it's the place where the conclave members are closed for a number of days and where they can't come out.
It was like the choice of Pope Francis was because he was a Jesuit and he wanted to be close to Borgo Santo Spirito.
He wanted to just be down the road from his headquarters.
It wasn't because he was being, oh, Francis wants to be modest.
He wants to be like all of us.
So he decided to stay in the Hotel Santa Marta, which is a very modest apartment and all this bullshit.
Instead, it was all calculated.
And now they have some problems for the conclave.
They are actually working night and day because Pope Francis occupied a lot of the rooms with his collaborators and the space for the actual cardinal electors is very...
I mean, some people will have to squash themselves in a little tiny room or maybe it's becoming a little bit complicated in any way.
Anyway, people who say, oh, now we will have a different pope, we will have this kind of poet, those people don't know mathematics.
Pope Francis nominated 80% of the conclave.
What do you think was going to be the result?
What kind of mathematics do you have in your head?
Oh, yeah, we will hope it will be a great pope.
Yes, decided by who?
By Pope Francis?
Pope Francis was the most hypocrite, dangerous guy in the face of Earth.
He was such a good guy.
He wasn't a good guy.
He was a guy who took advantage of people and who in the 70s, when he was head of the Jesuits, because after Chile he went back to Argentina, he became father provincial of the Jesuits, and then he got initiated into the P2 Lodge of Freemasonry who took control of the civic military junta in Argentina, the dictatorship.
Which got thousands of people to disappear, the desaparecidos.
There were two Jesuits who were actually kidnapped by his Freemason friends, and he did nothing to protect them.
For five months, they were blindfolded and kept on an island.
And for that reason, even the Black Pope of back then, the father superior of the Jesuits, had kicked Bergoglio out of his position.
And for a number of years, he actually became bishop and all the rest, thanks to Freemasonry, not thanks to the Jesuits.
He managed, like I reveal in this book, and this is going to be, of course, with the testimony, by the way, of the secretary of Ratzinger, so this is pretty serious stuff, to get back in with the Jesuits when Ratzinger wanted to himself investigate, just like...
The previous Pope, John Paul II, wanted to do when he saw that the Jesuits were doing things that the Russinger wanted to intervene and commission the order.
Bergoglio was chosen because he wasn't anymore with the Jesuits, but he was a Jesuit and he was a Freemason.
Bergoglio said, no way.
And at that point, the Jesuits said...
Bergoglio is our man.
We're going to make him Pope now.
And that was when he had the full support of both also the St. Gallen Mafia because he was connected to this group of Jesuits and other powerful priests who used to meet regularly in Switzerland.
And it's in this place in Switzerland where you have also in the same area a very powerful Lodge of the Illuminati who follow Aleister Crowley.
And the famous or infamous Cardinal McCarrick, who worked for the Jesuits for a number of years, and who was the biggest pedophile in the history of the church, apparently, he went, when he was very young, to be indoctrinated there, after the hobby of Telema.
Do what thou wilt, Aleister Crowley and the infamous sexual magic and homosexual activities that then pervaded the church in the 1960s in the light of the Second Vatican Council.
It's very much connected also to Aleister Crowley.
You know, Aleister Crowley was a big inspiration.
And so you have also this connection here.
Crowley used to call the Jesuits the Black Lodge of the Vatican.
It's coming from him.
Imagine that.
And there were people who were really scared of the Jesuits.
For example, Carl Gustav Jung was very scared of the Jesuits.
He was brought up in a family which feared the Jesuits and he always used to fear them since he was a kid.
And then you have, of course, the Jesuits are, let's say, The most distant from the teachings of Jesus.
And so the fact that they call themselves the Society of Jesus is kind of like a complete manipulation.
It's like Zeus.
That's the Jesus.
I mean, when you look, I can't even remember which guest.
We spoke about the names.
And in fact, the name Jesus is actually venerating Zeus.
So, a lot of the time, they're actually not praying to Jesus, but it's actually Zeus.
That sounds like they were very much better than Zeus.
It's like Ja, no?
Ja, the god of the Rastafari.
Ja, Jehovah, Jupiter, Zeus.
It's all the same thing.
Somebody is saying, rightly, they will not vote.
They have already voted.
Yes.
This will be a short conclave.
They have at least to spend a couple of days in Santa Marta.
They, of course, have all the various prelibates because, you know, the main thing here about this showcase of the conclave unfolding is that...
The Cardinals love Roman cuisine, so they come from all over the world just thinking about the food.
They couldn't care less about the Holy Spirit, Jesus, or whatever.
They talk about "Cocciocola Romana", "Coda La Vaccinara", all these typical plates of Roman cuisine.
In their discussions, there is no mention of Jesus Christ.
There is a lot of mentions of food, and in fact, I will suggest for the conference this great book, "Pogami Family Cookbook", because at least they will probably eat Great food also in their countries of origin, instead of being so blasphemous in Rome.
I just had the report of two cardinals who are participating to the conflict.
They were talking about the wonderful artichoke made in the Roman way.
And they were talking about it like it was like, I don't know, the miracle of the Holy Mary.
This is the kind of thing that happens with this kind of people.
So it is really...
They really mock Jesus in every way possible.
They couldn't care less.
They have all these nuns.
I also explain in this book the Jesuitess, the female Jesuits, who are part of all a number of specific order of nuns who have embraced the spiritual exercises of Ignacio Loyola, which are the basis of this whole thing.
You see, Ignacio Loyola was an occultist.
He wanted to define a new egregore.
And he did it by going in this cave and then being inspired.
I went there.
I went there myself.
My grandmother, when I was 16, decided to bring me to Montserrat.
I will advise everybody to go to Montserrat because this is an amazing place.
Montserrat Monastery was an experience for me.
I went there and I didn't know what to expect.
My grandmother said, you know, We were there in Barcelona.
She was visiting some friends, film director who was doing some part.
I don't know.
She was working, of course, in the cinema industry for many years.
So she had a lot of friends in the cinema industry.
So one day she said, we take a bus and we go to Montserrat.
I didn't know what to expect.
So we go through this long journey out of Barcelona and we get to this mountain place.
And it was amazing.
It was literally amazing.
This kind of big...
Hill, rocks, this Montserrat monastery.
It was something that I still cherish because it was an experience, of course.
And it was in the cave of Saint Ignace.
It was there in Montserrat that he was inspired because there is there the worship of the Black Mary, of Isis, basically.
The Black Mary?
Is that what they call her?
The Black Mary?
Yeah, often when you see in the Catholic Church the theme of the Black Mary, that is always hiding a previous worship of Isis.
So it's an incredible place.
It's in Catalonia.
He remained there for 11 months.
He basically...
He went to this Benedictine monastery of Santa Maria de Montserrat in March of 1522.
He stood before the Black Madonna, aka Isis, basically, known to the Catholics as Our Lady of Montserrat.
He confessed his sin, he cast off his fine clothes.
He, of course, wanted to also get off his back the Inquisition, which was keeping, you know, always a close...
Tag on him because he was known for having hypnotized young ladies and done all kinds of things.
And at that point, on his way back from Montserrat, he stopped in a place called Manresa, the capital of the Bages County, located always there around that place.
I went also there.
And Manresa now has a population of around 78,000, and he's next to this cave where he went.
And in this case, we started to write these spiritual exercises, which are very powerful and have nothing to do with Christianity and a lot to do with opening your chakras and your mantra to create a new egregore that then,
you know, everybody who serves the Jesuits, even if they are in the laicity, even if they are not priests, or even if they are nuns and they embrace the Jesuit order as their guidance, They have to practice these spiritual exercises.
For example, we had in Italy a former Prime Minister Renzi, who every summer used to go to practice the spiritual exercises with his spiritual father in Sardinia.
But that's why in my book I explain how these exercises are very complicated and have been followed by the Jesuits and their followers for all this time.
There are several dangers in the use of the...
because it's a man-made system for spiritual growth and development that can actually...
The primary danger is that the imagination of the participant believes that the Lord is speaking to him in a subjective form behind the pages of Scripture.
I mean, it could literally blow your mind reciting these things and following the instructions.
You become enslaved by their egregore, basically.
Yeah, for sure.
And let's say that the devotion that they demand, I guess it's very troublesome.
I will leave it to the people who will read my book to understand what the spiritual exercises are all about because, of course, I wrote extensively to explain to the common folk what they are all about.
That's why I think...
That the Jesuits will not be very pleased with me unveiling all the secrets.
Listen, we plead with you and that's all that matters.
I just have just two questions that I've highlighted, you know, just to ask you.
The first one came earlier from Janice.
Were the SMA Fathers Jesuits?
No, in the sense that what Shintensa for SMA?
What order Shintensa for SMA?
Because the Jesuits have, of course, always influenced the Society of African Missions.
They have always been very close to the Society of African Missions.
And for that reason, if there is another chance, I mean...
The only other chance that we have at the upcoming conclave of another pope is either the Chinese-Filipino or an African.
The Jesuits have always been at the tip of the spear of the missions.
Every missionary that had something relevant about an African leader, all the African leaders, where do you think go to school, Chantel?
Yeah, all over.
They don't go to school in Africa.
They get sent all over.
In my book, I explain how the Jesuits, either you go to school at the Jesuits, places like Fordham, Georgetown, or either you go to school in Switzerland.
McCarrick was brought up in what is known as the kindergarten Davos, because everybody who comes out of that school when they are a child becomes a leader, and they don't divulge.
The people who are there.
So, I mean, there will be a lot of discovering in my book to understand how this elite...
I like it!
The SMA fathers, I would say, definitely are connected to the Jesuits and they are actually a religious society which has a connection which was founded by somebody who was himself Link to the Jesuits.
A guy called Melchior de Brasillac.
And if you go and study in the history of this prelate, you will find that he had more than a connection with the Jesuit order, of course.
So, there is not really any order in the Catholic Church that doesn't have a link to the Jesuits.
You know, you can't...
I mean, people will say, okay, but you have the traditionalists, you have the city vacantists, you have the people who follow Michel Lefebvre, and so they are different.
They are doing the Latin mass, they're doing this, they're doing that.
Believe me, guys, if they still exist in this earthly, you know, dimension, and they have not been eliminated, wiped out of the face of the earth, in some way they have been put under their spell and control.
Yep, absolutely.
That's part of that education, right, Leo?
That is the great thing, you know, with the founder, it's interesting because this is one of your viewers who made that question about the SMA.
Melchior refers to the Jesuits in his souvenirs over 90 times.
That means he worshipped them.
You know, of course, people would say, oh, well, but he was a missionary.
He did good things.
You know, he fought, I don't know, the India caste system or he went to Africa and he did so much good for the African societies.
Whatever.
You're free to believe in Father Christmas.
You're free to believe in anything that is fictional.
But remember the truth.
The truth is that, overall, nowadays, the Jesuits don't control only Catholicism.
They control Baptists, Methodists, Evangelists of all sorts.
In 500 years, when the project started in 1540, the Pope said, In Tivoli, in this castle where, by the way, I challenge the Jesuits' egregore.
This is something I also write about in my book.
I wrote originally about also, I cited this in volume 3, but I write extensively about it also in volume 12. There is a place.
That place is a castle in the city of Tivoli where Ignacio Loyola was received by the Pope and he was sanctioned.
You can now...
That's where the order was founded.
I went to the exact same place, brought an Orthodox priest, went with a bunch of Freemasons who wanted to be Christian Freemasons, and I reawakened the strict temporal observance that had been infiltrated by the Jesuits because I wanted to challenge their egregore.
Well, it didn't end up very well for me because...
That happened in 2016, and by 2019 I had to flee Italy.
But I tried to also challenge their egregore, not only challenge their, you know, like I'm doing now intellectually.
I love it.
I love it.
Yeah, I try my best, let's say.
I try my best.
We do you really good, and we're very happy to have you here.
And then the other question I have for you is from Chuck.
How do they vote?
Voice votes or secret ballots?
I'd be interested to know that as well.
Do they sit there with each other?
No, they have two lines of cardinals.
Then you have in the middle of the room the place where they deposit the vote.
The vote is made on a piece of paper.
Then it's closed and then it's put down.
You know, like a secret vote, of course.
So nobody knows who has voted what, but in reality, everybody knows who has voted what, I tell you, because they very much know immediately if one guy is voting for the wrong person, they are like, ah, okay, this must be this guy because he has done this and that.
So it is actually like, you know, it's very much...
It's very much an election which is conducted, they say, by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, but in reality is inspired by politics, by interest, manipulation.
They know that, for example, Africa nowadays is a continent that needs to have a pope.
So if it's not Asia, it's going to be African.
You have Cardinal Turkson, for example, which could be one, but you have also other cardinals.
Of course, the African cardinals are the ones more easy to blackmail because they like to have sex with their nuns very often.
This was also pointed out in the movie Conclave.
In the movie Conclave, there is at one point an African Cardinal is starting to gather a lot of votes and suddenly a nun appears out of nowhere.
She's serving the food and drops the food and then they investigate the whole thing.
Yes, 30 years earlier.
I had sex with this woman, but I don't know if it's my son, but it's not my fault.
And the guy said, and the deacon says, you have to step back.
That's it.
I find that quite racist.
Don't you find that the Conclave movie had this moment in which there was almost an African Pope and then he has to step back because he had sex with a nun?
Well, I mean, I don't think he's the only Pope or Cardinal having sex with the nuns.
No, no, no.
I mean, John Paul II loved these nuns.
But in any case, I'm talking here about the fact that the Africans now, within the world...
Cardinals are the only straight ones.
The other ones prefer little boys and men.
They're mostly homosexuals.
So the Africans have this thing.
And when you have such an homosexual mafia, for example, Cardinal Tagli has been very open about his support for the LGBTQ and all that.
And so he's not only supported by the Chinese outwards, he's supported by the LGBT who is looking at Cardinal Tagler like, "Oh, this is a good guy because he said LGBT is very good and everything, so we want this Cardinal!" Of course, communism and wokeism is all part of the same thing.
I was going to say, it's the whole work.
Package.
Package.
It's all package.
Yeah.
Well, I know we've got to actually sign off soon.
I told you I'd watch the time for you tonight.
You've got to kind of...
I know, I know, I know.
I mean, it's like the promotion of this book is going to take a lot of interviews, appearances on this and this other show.
But I remember that I always...
I love your audience, and I always love spending this time with you every month, and I'm very much looking forward also to a new project with the Book Club.
Absolutely.
I'm glad that it's going to start with Volume 12, because like I said, it's the last installment of the Confessions Series.
It's not going to be anymore in Confessions.
It's already an encyclopedia.
And I find it very interesting that there's...
Twelve volumes as well.
Twelve books.
Very powerful number, that as well.
Absolutely.
I mean, you always have to choose things in a certain way.
If I ever did volume 13, it would be contrary to 13. I mean, it's the number that is the curse of the nice tempers.
It's the curse here in America.
It's bad luck anyway.
I've heard it's actually good luck.
In Italy, actually, it's good luck, but I think that I respect this side of the world where I'm living now.
But also, in any case...
I think that with these 12 books, I have managed to really go in depth with all the facades, all the sides of the New World Order and everything that is, you know, all these secret societies that we commonly refer to as the Illuminati, the way that Freemasonry operates.
I think that...
People will find also some very interesting elements.
There's a whole chapter regarding the Illuminati and Freemasonry and the relationship with the Jesuits in my new book, which I think people will find very interesting.
There is testimonies from people who actually live this duplicity of being both Jesuits and Freemasons, and they talk about it, but in the end, they are always Jesuits before being Freemasons.
And that's also what Jorgen Mario Bergoglio Acapul Francis was.
He was first a Jesuit, then he was a Freemason, and then he was a Pope in fair distance.
So people, of course, are...
You know what I just wanted to say in ending, and it's so true what you're saying.
I have it on good authority.
You mentioned at the beginning of the show They're influenced in the Anglican Church as well.
You might know Desmond Tutu.
I talk about Desmond Tutu in my book.
So you have actually Desmond Tutu.
So you have a moment that touches you directly.
Well, I tell you what.
I want to spoil anything for you, but he is in the book.
Okay.
I'm going to tell you.
From what we've heard, well, I know on good authority, Desmond Tutu actually sold his grandson into child trafficking to get his archbishopship.
So he died, gosh, I think Tutu died maybe a year or two ago now.
He died recently, but also very corrupt.
He was also part of...
The Knights of St. John, the Knights of Malta, then relate to the Catholic one.
He was a guy who was, of course, corrupted because South Africa would not be in the present state if it wasn't for the errors committed by Desmond Tutu.
Especially.
And, you know, he was very vocal about speaking up against politics and stuff.
But then you see behind the scenes.
More political than him.
I mean, he was the guy in charge after, you know, when the whole thing came together, he was the one in charge.
I mean, it wasn't Nelson Mandela, but after Nelson Mandela, he was the most influential leader.
So it's thanks to him that we have certain disparities in today's African society, because he didn't really do the things he was supposed to do in that moment.
He should have had much more honesty and clearance and being able to get certain people to maybe admit their sins publicly instead of covering up for this or this other person.
Yeah, he did.
He covered up a lot.
He was quite instrumental, I do believe, in the truth and reconciliation.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
He was actually heading that committee.
So that was politics.
That wasn't religion.
And he didn't do it for sure.
So that's definitely something that ended up in my book.
And there is more.
So I mean, but I'm glad that you brought that up because, of course, it touches you personally.
And it's also an important subject, which I touched within this new book of mine.
And thank you so much to all of you.
I, of course, have to leave you now, but I see you soon for the book club.
Guys, remember, for the book club, it's essential to purchase this book, otherwise you're not going to have any questions to ask.
And it's not going to be like today where I'm presenting things.
I'm going to actually listen to you and what you have to say about my book, because that is then going to require further analysis and a more in-depth insight from my side.
That I'm very much looking forward to.
So God bless you all and take care, guys.
Thank you, Leo.
We'll see you soon.
Bye.
Cheers, guys.
Cheers, Leo.
Okay, well, I'm still here.
Mr. Busy Italian is shuffled right off.
That was a great show.
Wow.
I thoroughly enjoyed that information.
The Chinese, man, why didn't I think about that earlier?
And it's so obvious, you know, when we have these guys on the show and we hear these things, it's so freaking obvious, right, that they've all been in cahoots since the day dot.
Anyway, I feel like I've got 27 layers of clothing on.
I feel like a puffer fish.
I feel like I've picked up 10 kilograms just looking at myself.
But it's cold here.
Okay.
Anyway.
Okay, guys.
So I'm going to also love and leave you.
And thank you so much.
Thank you so much for joining me.
But here's something I actually want to do.
And I am going to give it over to...
I'm going to sponsor.
Aquarius Rising Africa is going to sponsor...
Three copies of Leo Zagami's Kindle book.
So I'll sponsor three people a copy.
But then I'm going to say, I can't choose, I can't choose, I can't choose.
So I'm going to give it over to the Wenches with Wrenches.
Let me see.
Janice Gilmore, you get to choose someone.
If you yourself would like the copy of Leo's book, Then I will give that to you.
But if you would like to donate or not donate, if you would like to, what do you call it?
Nominate someone.
You can do that.
Jojo Awaken, you'd be another one.
And Joanne, you'd be the other.
So you guys either get to...
I have a copy of Leo Zagami's book, the latest book on Kindle, sponsored by Ara.
I'm not giving you a hard copy because I can't get one here.
I can only get Kindle, yeah.
So then I'm going to say Janice, Joanne and Jojo.
All the J's.
I didn't even think about it like that.
So Janice, Joanne and Jojo, you can either email me, all three of you lovelies have got my email number and my email address.
You can either nominate yourself or you can nominate someone else, a viewer, anyone in the chat who you feel would join the book club and then we would...
We would join the book club.
And guys, please get yourselves a copy of Leo's book.
I think this is going to be so cool.
I'm going to let you know.
I'm just going to have a chat with him as to exactly when.
It'll probably be, we'll keep having him.
He comes on the first Friday of the month.
So I will have him on a Monday or a Tuesday night or same time, night for me.
I'll decide.
Once a month again where we do book club.
So we'll do a month of volume 12, a month of volume 11, blah, blah, blah.
So we probably have him on for a year once a month doing all his books with us.
I think that is absolutely fantastic.
So, yeah.
And you nominate someone.
You nominate someone who you would like to give the gift to.
You can nominate someone.
And you all can.
All right.
Janice, Joanne, and Jojo.
Then, what else?
Okay, remember, tomorrow is Saturday, right?
Is it Saturday tomorrow?
Yes, it is.
Brock from Nassara17.
I'm really looking forward to actually chatting with him.
We're going to be talking about the dumbs and all of that stuff that's going on.
The dumb tunnels, deep underground military bases.
And then Jerry Marzinski at 6 o 'clock tomorrow night.
And, in fact, he's got someone else.
He just messaged me now joining.
He won't be on his own.
He'll got someone else joining who's done exorcisms and stuff.
So he's going to talk to us about exorcisms.
So Zandi, I'm giving you a copy of that book.
Thank you.
And I'm doing that because there will be four, including you, Zandi, because of the beautiful gift.
You gave to this channel at the beginning of the year.
So won't you please just...
I must just find out how to send these things to you from Kindle.
Okay.
So please just send me your email addresses and then I'm sending you a copy of Leo's book.
And then, of course, Monday night, guess who's coming on?
Gary Wayne.
I have Gary Wayne on Monday night.
So that'll be 6 or 7 o 'clock my time.
Same time as this.
And then we're going to, yeah, have Gary Wayne on talking about all sorts of things as well.
I've got him on twice for me.
So, yes, that's it.
Okay, yay, girl and a guy.
I'm so happy you got that.
Okay, and I'm going to be so excited because to see you guys in the book club.
Okay, I've been speaking a lot now.
I think everyone is tired of my yap-yapping.
It's Friday.
I'm going to make an Irish coffee now.
And now, and I'm having a drink, an Irish coffee with my friend Linda Mabir on Zoom.
Thank God for Zoom.
Thank God for Zoom.
I get to hang out with you guys and have dates on Friday nights here and afterwards on Zoom as well.
Isn't that awesome?
Okay, guys.
God bless you all.
Thank you so much for being part of the Arrow Tribe.
I really love you all.
I do.
I really, really do.
And thank you for supporting and joining this tribe.
God bless you all.
And I'll see you tomorrow.
Don't be good.
No, we're not good.
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