This is the Leo Zagami show, exploring the Illuminati today.
We are actually more in the occult.
Yes, we're not going to be so much in all political, geopolitical business.
We're going to be more into the esoteric side of things.
We have nearly ignored, but for a long time I wanted to do a show on druidism, because druidism...
Has a key role in the Illuminati.
And so I said to myself, let's do it!
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And let me show here a couple of images that will set the pace for today's show.
This is Churchill.
Prime Minister Churchill, who was also a druid amongst the modern druids.
We will also explain the difference because the druids were suppressed with the arrival of Christianity and they are said to have resurfaced.
In 1717, which was also coincidentally the year in which speculative Freemasons came together formally at the Goose and the Gridon.
So we have a lot to say, especially from a founding father like Thomas Paine.
Yes, Thomas Paine wasn't necessarily A Freemason.
There is no asserted membership of Thomas Paine.
You all know who was Thomas Paine, of course.
But he wrote a book on the origins of Freemason.
And this book, guys, ends with an analysis that involves also the Druids.
He says here a few things about the Druids.
Christy would like to read what the great father of this great nation who brought us originally the common sense.
The common sense.
It was the pamphlet that everybody read during the revolution against the evil Brits.
So here we are with Thomas Paine and his take on the Druids.
As this has been the case in all the instances we have any knowledge of, we are obliged to admit it with respect to the case in question and that when the Christian religion over...
Ran the religion of the Druids in Italy, ancient Gaul, Britain and Ireland.
The Druids became the subject of persecution.
This would naturally and necessarily oblige such of them as remained attached to their original religion.
To meet in secret.
So they went underground, basically.
And under the strongest injunctions of secrecy.
Their safety depended upon it.
A false brother might expose the lives of many of them to destruction, and from the remains of the religion of the Druids thus preserved a rose, the institution which, to avoid the name of Druid, took that of Mason and practiced under this name the rites and ceremonies of the Druid.
This new name, this new name, the rites and ceremonies, this new name.
So for Thomas Paine, in his Origin of Freemasonry, the Druids were actually, they had to go underground and they resurfaced as Freemasons.
Yes, nice.
You got it?
It's important because we saw, of course, the image of Winston Churchill, but now I'm going to also show you the image of...
The late Queen Elizabeth, who was also initiated into the ancient druids.
Here we have a relative.
She's looking really pretty right there.
And I'm going to show you also another set of images where she looks actually even more pretty.
Not even more pretty.
Yes.
Believe it or not, even my mother was pretty when she was young.
Well, we have a certain familiarity as we are related.
But this demonstrates that the Druids have been a force of equal, if not superior, power within the Western initiatic system.
And the modern Druids surfaced parallel to the birth of speculative Freemasons.
so in the 18th century.
And the first order that surfaced officially It's known as, of course, nowadays there are multiple modern Druid orders.
We have the Order of Bards, Oves and Druids, the United Ancient Order of Druids, and the Ancient Order of Druids, and so United Ancient Order of Druids, all these Druids, many Druids, but let's say the one that was surfaced...
At the time of speculative Freemasonry, then of course I was subject to various schisms, like it happened also in Freemasonry.
Schisms are also part of the initiatic way of doing things.
Once you get these orders...
to be established there will be always somebody who wants to establish maybe a similar one or take the best of the members and bring that even I was subject to this kind of things more than once I was myself a schismatist with the United of England with the regular England then I was also subject to a schism within my own sick temple of servants so this schism happened all the time ancient order of druids Apparently,
it's the first one that we know of, but there is also those who say that there was already an order of Druids from 1717 and that they had various independent lodges because they meet in what is completely distinct from Freemasonry, it says, but there is...
Certain similarities and initiatory aspects.
And in England, in 1781, their motto is justice, philanthropy, and brotherly love.
Brotherly love, of course, is also a Masonic term, aside from being the motto of Philadelphia.
Ancient Order of Duits.
You can see here there is a presence of symbol to do with the horoscope, with the astrology.
There is also symbol which is typical of sacred geometry and of course Freemasonry.
So we have a lot of elements that bring us into the realm of Freemasonry.
There is a connection with Freemasonry.
Welcome!
to the Leo Zegami show today we are discussing druidism and Freemasonry because of course we have also a book here very interesting book by John Yarker the origins and antiquity of arcane schools that also of course mentions the druids as For many, the Druids were the ancestors, the ones where Freemasons originated from.
Freemasonry, though, can be many things.
And many mystery schools came together in Freemasonry.
We can say that.
Basically, Freemasonry can be the Pythagoreans, can be the Rosicrucians, can be many things.
And it provided, let's say...
The theosophies then manifest themselves in the theosophy, of course.
Now, we know that John Yarker, who wrote this, and I cited John Yarker, especially in Volume 9 of my Confessions, when I talk about the Gnostics and the Illuminati, but in this book, he talks about the Welsh historians that assert that Christianity was accepted in a national council, Helped by a king, King Lucius.
This was 155 years after the birth of Christ, Anno Domini, 155. And the archdruids met.
And because, you see, the druids, from what we know also from Julius Caesar, who wrote about them, the Bello Gallicum, were originated, though, in Great Britain.
That's also where the ancient Greek philosophers said that they didn't originate.
They had, of course, The area where we now know them for Asterix, the cartoon.
And, you know, Asterix was this cartoon that then had the druid that gave a magical portion and everybody became strong and fight their own.
We didn't have that in America.
Well, you didn't have them in America, but then later on it became a movie with actually Monica Bellucci and other famous actors.
So it became also a Hollywood film.
But many people in Europe know Asterix.
And Asterix was this This from Gaul that was fighting the Romans because the Romans, the Gauls, the natives inhabitants of ancient Gaul were the arch enemies of the Romans who were trying to fight them and then in the end of course they conquered them.
But at one point apparently and this is John Jarker who says it in The Origins and Antiquity of Arcane Schools, a book which is regarded as very important by the Illuminati of the Ordo Templi Orientis, for example, and other groups, because John Yarker was the guy who put together the ancient and primitive rife of Memphis and Miserum.
You were initiated also.
In any case, the archbishops and the chief druids of 28 cities In what is now, of course, Great Britain, came together and that is when the British,
in a way, accepted the Christianity and King Lucius is said to have been educated in Rome by Saint Timotheus.
So he converted them to Christianity.
There was a moment in which they were converted.
However, in Great Britain, there is at least a few places, not only Stonehenge, because, of course, we know about Stonehenge.
Stonehenge has been ascribed without really a lot of historical certainty to the Druids.
In fact, the Druids...
I mean, I'm going to show you now their meeting from last year.
This was the 2024 Summer Solstice meeting.
They are the only ones allowed to go inside the ruins and celebrate this ritual.
Because, you see, as a normal tourist, you cannot go within the ruins because if you...
If you walk too much on that grass, in the end, the stones will bend down.
So they had to block.
In the 70s, they decided to limit the entrance.
I was very lucky with my father to go there a couple of times inside the Stonehenge because my father wanted to do a ritual.
But this is what happened last year at the summer solstice with the Druids.
Thank you.
What do you think about these images, Christy, from last year's summer solstice?
They look very much like the usual pagans.
Pagans, I was going to say.
It's very, very pagan.
It's very pagan.
The whole thing here is the connection with Freemasonry.
It seems like the Druids disappeared from the public scene for a few hundred years.
And then they reappear when Freemasonry kind of, in a way, gives them the opportunity to gather back together.
Now in the age, of course, of the Internet...
The druids are also connected with all those Bika groups, so there is a lot of mismatch between the two groups.
And I would say that the druids are also connected to human sacrifice.
Now, there is a lot of talk about the human sacrifice of the druids, because the druids are set to sacrifice only the enemies and the criminals, rather than the innocents, the children, or the virgins.
In other situations.
However, they were criticized very much by even the ancient Romans for the human sacrifice practices.
And we can say that a mix of this kind of practices is in that movie, The Bicker Man.
The Bicker Man that was an early 70s movie, English movie, and then it was remade with Nicolas Cage.
This is actually...
The trailer of the original Beaker.
I think I have it somewhere.
I should have it.
I can't find it.
But it was basically in the 70s that the Beaker man appeared and it was partly based on this.
I think I found it, actually.
I have here the trailer from the Beekerman.
Let's check it out.
Hopefully, we're not going to have any copyright issues.
This is supposed to be an old trailer with no issues.
I am here to investigate the disappearance of a young girl.
Where is Rowan Morrison?
I don't know anything about her.
Nothing.
I suspect mud done.
We tell her.
Don't commit murder up here.
We're a deeply religious people.
God, woman, what kind of mother are you that can stand by and see your own child slaughtered?
God, man. man.
Chop, chop, chop.
Now, it is time to...
Keep your appointment with the wicker man.
Oh God!
Oh my God!
So the wicker man represents really this comeback also of this natural religion, this nature, this religion based on nature, paganism that comes back really in the 60s.
And makes popular people like Aleister Crowley once again.
I mean, the 60s was the moment in which Stonehenge also started to be the centerpiece of all the Druid movement, especially in 1969. It was hardly a box office smash.
40 Druids, perhaps 400 hippies.
The Druids watching for the sun that never shone.
The hippies watching the Druids and watching each other.
On the one hand, the reenactment of an ancient and mysterious ritual.
On the other, an equally mysterious ritual, circa 1969. Both virtually defied description.
They were at it from midnight till midday, the Druids in their white ceremonial robes, the hippies in regulation flower-power attire.
For the Druids, Stonehenge is a spiritual home, and the summer solstice is the high point of the year.
The sunrise represents the illumination of the dawning of consciousness.
For the chief Druid, bearded Dr. Thomas Maughan, Druidism has a special meaning.
Well, we believe that life is good.
We believe that it originates in good and that it continues in good.
We believe that life is self-rectifying.
We also know that man is not awfully good at living life.
The art and science of living is just a beginner.
So you have friction, then, between man's tendency to error and life's tendency to rectify the error.
According to where the friction hits you, you call it pain, suffering, need, necessity, or any other adversity.
No, Druidry aims at teaching you to recognize the signs.
Now, Druidism seems to have had a comeback in the 60s.
I told you there were various schisms from that ancient order of Druids that we saw surfacing back in 1781. Then we had another order that came into being in 1833. This was the united ancient order of Druids.
And we can also see here very much a classic Masonic symbolism.
Pretty noticeable here, I mean, in their symbolism.
The United Ancient Order of Druids is a fraternal organization founded in 1833, after a schism with the Ancient Order of Druids.
So here we have one of the schisms.
And then there was another schism that brought us a more modern approach that included also a revisitation of even the works of Adolf Huxley.
So the Druids...
The modern Druids have had various phases.
This is a much more modern A version of Druidism with a symbol which is clearly more modern.
This order is known as the Order of Bars, Overs and Druids.
Now the Bars were the poets of the Druid movement, let's say, of the Celtic religion.
And here it says, but in part of the Welsh corset environment, it's a society of Welsh language.
Connected also to the Welsh, because you see, then you have a language, you know, Celtic language that is also spoken, like in the Isle of Man, for example, where part of my family comes from and is buried.
My great-grandmother is buried in the Isle of Man.
They talk the Celtic language still to this day.
The concept of the free roads.
of bars, ovates and druids, originates from the writings of the ancient Greek historian and geographer Strabo, who in his Geographica, written in the 20th CE, stated that amongst the Gauls, there were three types of honoured figures.
So there were three kinds of figures in this Druid Celtic society.
The poets and singers, known as the bardos, the diviners and specialists in the natural world, known as the wights, said that they would be like the specialists.
Also in the portions and stuff, like the herbs, magical herbs.
And then you have those who studied moral philosophy who were the druids.
The druids were the philosopher, the high priest, let's say.
But like we stated just a moment ago, the seemingly innocent figures have also this dark side.
Where apparently they commit a human sacrifice.
Now, the guy who apparently relaunched Druids more than anybody else was a guy called George Watson McGregor Wright.
And this Scottish modern Druid Established a church of the universal bond that then developed in the early 20th century and promoted, by the way, socialism, anti-imperialism, what we would say, communism.
So there was a part of the Druids that, especially with George Watson McGregor, We're more inclined into a leftist approach.
Then we have the ones we showed with the Queen of England, they had a more conservative and royal approach.
So the Druids have...
Now, let's get into the esoteric reality of the Druids.
To know a little bit more about esoteric reality, here, let me read a quote, actually, let Christy read a quote from a chapter entitled The Druids from Mr. Charles William Eckerton, which appears in this book.
So, you prefer to read it here or to read it from there?
Okay, no way.
I can read it from here.
Okay.
The secret, don't do that.
The secret doctrines of the Druids were much the same as those of the Gymnosophis and Brahmins of India, the Magi of Persia, the priests of Egypt, and of all other priests of antiquity.
So, let me interrupt you here.
We can see that the secret doctrine of the Druids is really the secret doctrine of the Illuminati, of all these mystery schools of old that then become the formation ground also for future Freemasonry and the various rights of Freemasonry who claim to pick of all these mystery schools of old that then become the formation ground also for future But please continue.
Like them, they had two sets of religious doctrines, esoteric and exoteric.
Their rights were practiced in Britain and Gaul.
So see, Britain is always considered the place where this tradition comes from.
The word druid is generally supposed to be derived from...
The word an oak, which is a tree.
Which tree was particularly sacred.
Among them, through its etymology, may also be found in the Gaelic and druid.
No, the Gaelic word druid, which means a wise man or magician.
So druid can be various things.
It can be an oak, it can be in the Gaelic form.
A wise man or a magician.
They're also renewed because, in fact, they always have this sacred stick made from a sacred tree.
And then here it says...
Their temples wherein the sacred fire was preserved were generally situate on eminences and in dense groves of oaks and assumed various forms.
Now, regarding the sacred fire, we notice that also the Zoroastrians worshipped fire.
So there was this worship of fire in antiquity.
Zoroastrians, who are also inspirational for Adam Bishop.
And the foundation of the Order of the Illuminati.
The Zoroastrians, who still exist to some extent today, in antiquity they were considered in the Middle East Illuminati and high priests of a religion which had also very powerful spiritual and magical...
Spiritual power.
So this worship seems very much similar to the...
But it is said that actually in the Middle East, the Druids were viewed as the more powerful, even more powerful than their own Magi in Persia, for example.
And when I went in Egypt and I was there with various Illuminati, various people...
The Druids came up in more than an occasion.
They were like...
No, they talk about the Druids as being equals, if not even superiors, and that Stone Angel was a very powerful center.
And so the Middle East recognizes, still to this day, the fact that the Druids have this immense power.
I'm Celtic.
I'm partly Celtic.
That is part of my bloodline.
So it's obvious that I'm descendant of Druids.
Celtic is the difference between my mother, who is more Celtic in appearance, and my aunt, who is more Saxon.
But the Celtics are the more darker in Great Britain.
So their temples have this sacred fire.
And there is various forms also of stones that they used to use for their rituals.
And we can say that the mysteries of Druidism consisted also in certain buildings.
We can say, we don't have absolute certainty, but definitely Stonehenge resembles...
The classical temple that was, of course, used by the Druids.
The system of Druidism, however, embraced every religious and philosophical pursuit known in the islands in Great Britain.
So they mixed all these elements.
And it is said that at times from the people...
The Romans were arriving there and didn't know anything about their culture.
There was some confusion about who these Druids really were.
However, the Druids are central to the Celtic culture and, in fact, Christianity as we know it, the Celtic cross, for example.
And also in Ireland, as well as in Britain, they always seem to have an origin that is connected to this tradition, this Druid tradition.
So a tradition that then, of course, developed and resurfaced very much in the 18th century, thanks to Freemasonry, thanks to people like even, I mean, We have very important people within the cultural milieu that did Celtic reach.
William Blake.
Now, William Blake is, of course, very known.
And he was a druid.
He was said, actually, to be a chief druid at one point.
Wouldn't he be a ballard, too?
What?
Ballard.
Well, a poet, of course.
Actually, some say that William Blake's concept of deism and druidism was actually quite antithetical also with druidism and that he might have not really been so fond of it, though there is evidence that he has practiced ritual.
Now, it seems, though, that...
He had a problem with Stonehenge.
He had William Blake describe the structure of Stonehenge in his writings, and especially in the enigmatic and sprawling epic Jerusalem, which is one of the most important William Blake ever wrote.
And it seems like Stonehenge is not a positive image in Blake's cosmology.
He's not a fan of Stonehenge.
And he seems to have connected, in the end, the pagan priests, the Druids.
Because he was very much into theism.
He was very much into reason about everything else.
Essentially, he saw reason and logic.
Being superior to all that kind of stuff.
So we didn't really think...
It was too much quackery, in a way, maybe.
The druidic religion was a bit too...
But apparently he had, at some point, an involvement with it.
And, of course, he talks also about Albion's ancient druid Rocky Shore.
That's how...
He mentions it, the primitive seat of the patriarchal religion, as the Druid temples and oak grooves over the whole earth witness to this day.
This is what he said in Jerusalem.
So to break Druidism, far from being the pure fate of Abraham, this symbolized the religion of the natural man, the savage, which was originally universal and still exists, but he didn't embrace...
The remains of Druidism and what probably was manifested from his time onwards were probably not of his liking.
This is what they say about William Blake.
But in any case, William Blake is regarded to this day as one of the grandmasters because there is, let's say, part of Druidism that created Thank you to that gentleman I mentioned just earlier, George Watson McGregor Raid.
When he created his own Druid Order, what he did, he said there were grandmasters before him.
Now, we don't know if those grandmasters were real or they were like in the case of Alistair Crowley, who creates for the OTO a series of mythological grandmasters.
George Magret said that William Blake was one of the grandmasters.
But can we believe that he was the creator of a rather modern order?
In fact, I'm going to show you now the Druid order that he created that he said, though...
Had before him various grandmasters of importance, including William Blake.
And this order is known as the Druid Order.
This is the symbol.
You see, it says Foundation 1909. But if you go today on the website of his order, you will find that they are mentioned grandmasters.
Since the early 18th century.
But this is possible.
This is creation of fiction out of his brain.
Or that him and the Illuminati he worked with decided to formalize what was already in existence.
Let's remember one thing about the Druids that is very important.
They didn't write books.
You see?
Tradition had to be transmitted only orally.
Oh, okay.
Like in Freemission, you have to learn and memorize certain things.
So they didn't have...
You don't have any certainty about their practices because...
They never wrote anything?
It was only other people who wrote about them.
The ancient Greeks, Julius Caesar, or people who invaded their territory, who visited them.
And wrote about them, but there's nothing wrote by them.
So that gives you an idea also of the confusion.
However, for example, when it comes to the order that we just mentioned, founded by George Watson McGregor, it had as a key activity meditation.
Now, meditation could be a relatively new thing coming from the East.
Rather than an ancient practice.
But he said that then you had druidic discussions that were philosophical, biological, mythological, political, poetic, astrological, religious.
So direct experience was always more important than learning acquired through books for the druids.
And even the modern druids tend to not have a large You know, like, for example, if we go into pre-Masonry, you have a bunch of authors.
They don't have to learn.
Oh, they teach each other through word.
Yeah, oral, yes.
Transmission.
What are the lessons that you have to study?
The ones that we see mostly in Stonehenge is actually the order that was founded in 1909. They are the ones.
In fact, here, let me show you.
You can see this also on Wikipedia.
It says it's held at the Tower Hill in London, Primrose Hill in London, where they said that William Blake was holding this ritual.
The Druid Order, you see Spring Equinoxes, Summer Solstice and all that, Stonehenge.
This event is marked by three ceremonies at Stonehenge in Wilshire.
So they are the ones that really have more control over the Stonehenge ritual than the other orders.
So just to give you an idea.
And let's continue to hear what this gentleman said at the end of the 60s.
So that you know to oil the gate before it starts to squeak.
The hippie's philosophy is less clear.
One theory suggests that some of their ancestors were attired in similar colorful garments when 25 centuries ago they too came here to pay homage to their particular gods.
So it seems like the hippies are starting to merge and that's what really brought us to the modern rituals that seem to be a mix of all that.
The summer solstice ritual that I showed earlier seems to be a mix of hippies and more esoteric, all in one.
This is other images from last year's summer solstice.
The sun, I'm sure, will rise.
In the meantime, I'm going to ask Victoria now if she will do.
And same thing again, if she does a line and we give her a line back, the invocation to the earth.
It seems that these are like various order, modern order of doing together.
Mother of all fruitfulness.
By bud and stem and flower and fruit.
By bud and stem and flower and fruit.
By life and love and all growing things.
By life and love and all growing things.
We call upon thee, Earth, Dana, Teredwin.
We call upon thee, Earth, Dana, Teredwin.
Our Lady of Nature.
Our Lady of Nature, the concept is pretty clear.
It's like the concept that, I guess, That's how they also kind of get together very easily with the Bika and all that, because that's also based on a worship of the Mother Goddess.
This is what characterizes also a lot of New Age groups, by the way.
So we have definitely the moments in which, of course, You have the whole, you know, we have the end of October, everybody getting into the Halloween mode that we know is summer in.
That's also part of it.
However, you have to understand that why did the hippies like so much and embrace so much the druids rather than other realities?
Because the druids also promoted the use of hallucinogenics, hallucinogenic drugs, mushrooms and various other plants.
So it's like from 1717, thanks to Freemasonry, they resurfaced.
As, you know, these various Druid orders that have always a very distinct Masonic element, if you think about it.
But at the same time, the Masons say, claim that they actually originate from the Druid's pathway.
So it gives them, like, there is this connection.
Let's say that from that moment onwards, also the trend, let's call it, of Celtic magic.
Because in a way, Merlin is a center figure also for the Illuminati.
In fact, Theodore Royce, the co-founder of the OTO, called himself Father Merlin.
Merlin is the magician of the court of King Arthur.
Merlin is that druid figure from old times.
When we talk about Excalibur, when we talk about Merlin, the link is to the magic of...
connected in a way that it might simply be a fake because there is no connection between the Holy Grail of Jesus and the Grail between the Holy Grail of Jesus and Marilyn
but in the way that it was put together we are putting together two traditions because we have to understand that in the end when Christianity was accepted by these Druids who were living there in Britain in in an island, they were accepting something that wasn't theirs originally.
So they said, okay, but we were also still continuing secret certain practices.
And the Druids had definitely to hide, but at the same time, they were still present in the British tradition, more than even in the French tradition, because in the French tradition, the fact that they were more close to Rome means also that they were subject to the Inquisition, to the possible persecution.
We might be doing next week an episode dedicated to the Inquisition because that will bring us to the Cators, the Albigians and other things and also all the way to the modern Inquisition of Pope Francis.
That will be very interesting.
Anyway, today we have been discussing Druidism.
Druidism because it is a subject which very little is known and we explain why because of course it was always everything that we know of these druids is from people who visited the druids or knew about the druids but not the druids themselves.
At one point though we had Vika.
Vika that surfaces in Great Britain immediately after the war.
We discussed that also, you remember, in a specific episode that we dedicated to this, because Vika is connected also, in a way, to Alistair Crowley.
And I think that those elements, those neo-pagan elements from Druidism...
Very much affected the birth of Bika, who is, in the end, something rather new that claims an ancient lineage.
So, in Bika, we have symbols that are Celtic and definitely connected to the Druid tradition.
In any case, the Druids today...
And what they represent for the Illuminati and for Freemasonry is a tradition that can be used to attack Christianity, to attack the basis of Christianity, like most pagan cults.
And we see it from these people we've just shown.
I mean, it's a way to sabotage people.
We pray thee in thy majesty and strength.
Rise up, we pray thee in thy majesty and strength.
Throw off the dogs of war that threaten east and west.
Bring peace to all the countryside, towns and cities.
Bring peace to all the men, women and children who have suffered around the world.
Almighty Mother of us all, at this solstice time, we pray thee.
Almighty Mother of us all, at this solstice time, we pray thee.
So much it be.
So much it be.
So, of course, Paganism, New Age, all this mishmash.
There is a connection also with theosophy.
You mentioned at the beginning of the show Theosophy, no?
But in reality, the German Theosophical Society, and one of the figures that was most important for the German Theosophical Society, Willem Hubschleiden, who is also indicated by Edith Starr-Miller in the Opel Theocracy as...
The guy who founded the Druids, the modern Druids in Germany, what is known as the Druid Orden.
He says, there is no mystery as to the existence in Berlin of the Druiden Orden today.
It is a branch of cremation, and its sovereign grandmaster is, until later, was Dr. Huber Schlein.
This is...
Of course, Occult Theocracy, Edith Tarr Miller, Volume 1. And Willem Hubschlein was a German scholar who was connected to Madame Blavatsky.
And in fact, he became the president of the Germania Theosophical Society and was the founder of the Theosophical Periodical The Sphinx.
He was also a member of the Society of Psychical Research.
So, I mean, there is a direct connection here between the modern Druids, also present in Germany, and, as you can see, the Theosophical Society.
And, of course, the Theosophical involvement that brings him to Madame Blavatsky.
And basically all the various Illuminati figures.
This makes us understand how important Druidism really is.
That's why William Churchill was a guy who was also a known Freemason, Winston Churchill.
He was a guy we all know as the famous British Prime Minister during the Second World War, this great statesman, military officer, also writer, who was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom in the most delicate hour between 1940 to 1945. Now Winston Churchill was, like we shown at the beginning of the show, a Freemason, but he was also a Druid.
And the same can be said also for a young Queen Elizabeth.
So, I mean, if people of this kind, who are at the peak of, you know, they are very influential in the society, were actually, I mean, capable of showing themselves among the Druids, it means it wasn't an organization that had no credibility.
I mean, you don't get photographed with a bunch of bearded men wearing weird stuff like this at the center of the photo if you are not agreeing with what they're doing.
And as you can see, the colors are very Masonic.
Yeah, they are.
Very Masonic in all the...
So these modern Druid orders definitely have this Masonic element.
And then you have the queen.
I mean, the queen who herself gets initiated.
And it's like, I mean, you're talking here, the queen became queen at a very young age.
So she was already queen here.
And to actually be initiated by these weirdos, it means that they were not so weird.
It means that they were part of a system.
I have a question.
Yes?
Did they practice magic?
Of course.
No, but, like, what did they use?
Like, you know, like, did Satanists use demons?
Like, what did they use?
Did they do, like, bad magic, like black magic?
No, no.
I mean, the thing is that the druids were never really...
They were never really...
Magicians, low-level magicians.
They were more like philosophers, high priests.
When you are a high priest, the system of Druidism embraced, like we said, every religion and philosophical pursuit that were known at the time.
They were very open about embracing whatever they found in the realms of spirituality.
Their initiations were very solemn.
They were always performed at midnight.
They contained three degrees, a little bit like Freemason.
You have the apprentice, you have the companion.
In their own system, they had the first or lowest being the eubates, that was the apprentice.
Then you have the second degree, who was the bards, and the third, the druids.
The candidate was first placed in a pastor's bed or coffin.
This also is similar to Freemasonry, if you think about it, where his symbolical death represented the death of Hu or the sun.
Now, we all know that Freemasonry is a sun worship and Hiram Abif and the rebirth of Hiram Abif.
And then the restoration in the third degree symbolizes the resurrection of the sun.
It's very, very similar.
You see?
That's why Thomas Paine, I mean, Thomas Paine, guys, I mean, I'm not talking about anybody.
I'm talking about one of the fathers of this great nation said that Freemasonry came from Druidism.
The Druids also, they had to undergo trials, tests of courage.
Stimular to those practicing the mysteries of other countries, and which therefore need to...
I mean, they had to do things that demonstrated that they were willing to die for what they believed in.
The Druids taught the doctrine also of, yes, worshipping the gods of nature, but also the doctrine of one supreme being amongst everybody.
So God, the one supreme being.
Now, A future state of rewards and punishment, the immortality of the soul, reincarnation, metempsychosis, reincarnation.
Metempsychosis was accepted by the Druids.
And this is also very interesting.
So they believed in the immortality of the soul, this supposed transmigration, a death of the soul of a human being or animal into a new body.
Either a human body or of a different species.
So the transmigration of the soul, the reincarnation after death, this is a very interesting concept that the Druids had.
The fact also that they had a lot of similarity with the Pythagoreans and Pythagoras, and that the Greeks knew about them and respected them very much.
The authority...
So, I mean, that's why you said they make rituals.
Yeah, they make sacrifices.
And that is the thing.
The human sacrifices were made so to please the gods and to get power for a war by their...
I thought there was one supreme god, though.
How can it be gods?
The god?
Yeah, no, because the god as a supreme, you know, the supreme god that basically dominates all the gods.
All the gods are part of one supreme god.
But also there is an interesting element here, you see.
The fact that they sacrifice, of course, to obtain something, but also their position is said to be superior to the ones of kings.
They were the Illuminati of the time.
They are said to be more powerful than the kings were their puppets.
So they had secrets.
They had secrets.
The kings were scared of them.
And that's why Merlin is depicted as almost, of course, magically more powerful than King Arthur.
King Arthur eventually will be able to...
Merlin is powerful.
Merlin is...
So it represents a typical druid.
They possess the power also of...
Inflicting death.
But not death by magic.
Death, almost like they were magistrates.
Almost like they represent the law.
So they were like really big shots.
They were not just like some magicians.
So they had like, they could control people.
Yeah.
Well, that gives people power.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And...
Their altars streamed with the blood of human victims, so they definitely practice human sacrifice, and that is something that the modern Druids tend to minimalize and say, you know, that is not really what we do.
However, we know that the Illuminati to this day still practice human sacrifice, and we know that, for example, the Bohemian Grove is a reflection of that Druid mentality.
Of nature connected with powerful people from the Bohemian club that go there.
So this holocaust of men, women and children that would be burned in large towers of wicker world like the wicker man.
That is a reality of the burnt offering to their superstitions, to their...
Gods, gods.
The Druids definitely have been guilty of something that today will not be tolerated because the dreadful sacrifices that are offered by the Druids for the public on the eve of a dangerous war or in time of any national calamity today will be regarded as being superstitious.
But having said that, we know That, in secret, the elite still practices this kind of thing.
The priestesses, because there are also Druid women, clothing white, wearing a metal gear, foretold the future from their observation of natural phenomena, but more especially from human sacrifices that were central to the Druid.
That's why the Romans were pretty fearful of the Druids.
And they were fairly critical of the Druids.
So as the Romans gained ground in the islands, in Great Britain, the power of the Druids gradually declined because the Romans, they prohibited certain practices.
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Let's put Vincenzo Bicepetta.
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